1┃general

[bleak quiver]

all my edits to the message when away cuz of discord so i will just link it again
for ulti setups in order of worse to best profits:

• Cheap Ulti -> 6mod, 1 dueling (optional) 1 bribing, goal is to abuse the guaranteed catalyst round to get consistent money, way better earlier in the league.
• Easy Catalyzing -> lightly filtered 8 mods, 1 catalyzing 2 bribing 2 of invasion/wisps/dueling/fragment, goal is to hope and pray you get expensive catalyst, boss makes it consistent money.
• Hard Catalyzing -> 117% quant 8mod, 1 catalyzing 2 bribing 2 uber atziri frags, this aims to get 9/10/10 from the different catalyst stack sizes, the rest is the same as the previous.
• White Inscription -> white maps, 1 catalyzing 1 inscription 2 bribing 1 dueling, white maps as nothing affects inscription, allowing for very easy maps and fast boss, resulting in fast, guaranteed and consistent big profit, with potential for gigantic highrolls, with the only drawback being delayed money instead of immediate like with catalysts.
• 8 Mod Inscription -> very filtered 8mods, rest is the same as white, just a HARDER version of inscription with the goal of increase raw loot, DOES NOT AFFECT THE ULTI ITSELF, so only do if your build is strong and you want to squeeze more of the strat.

o7s

[native abyss]

[devout shoal]

yeah ik but this death is so fucking stupid

wasnt even the balls that killed me

just not using my brain

[normal hedge]

was that with the new axe?

[devout shoal]

yeah

my dps was decent

[normal hedge]

rip

[devout shoal]

i coudlve probably even culled him in the last second if i had infernal cry on

time to transfer my shit for another hour and try to get 4/4 voidstones with no more deaths and no pressure

too bad i cant transfer gold and atlas and recipes

why cant they just add characterbound hardcores

[loud geyser]

okay here goes inquisitor from scratch

gna make this my ssf character

[normal hedge]

i dont even know what ssf players leaguestart as on inquisitor

[loud geyser]

was told can do normal ghostwrithe

so im gna eblade as that and hopefully it works out

until i can get foulborn

[tranquil umbra]

important question
do I roll t16.5s for pack size or currency for delirium beyond

[normal hedge]

lmfao day 1

[split palm]

holy hammers

[normal hedge]

i wasnt expecting that

[loud geyser]

i was reading the passives

id think they would play with spells?

not an attack?

[dense rock]

i was expecting top2 to be holy hammers and absolution

[loud geyser]

looks like they play storm brand and armageddon brand as well?

[onyx adder]

hammers looked good in trailers

[inner prawn]

inquisitor can do anything really.

[loud geyser]

i do wanna do spells

battlemage eblade

[onyx adder]

ppl were a bit worried about coverage and long range dps, they turned out to be right this time

[inner prawn]

i did a str/int stacking smite inquisitor last league

[normal hedge]

the additional hammers is a little bit clunky

[inner prawn]

that was fun.

[normal hedge]

but its fine

[loud geyser]

oh smite?!

[inner prawn]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Syrx-4140/standard/character/ZapinAllDay

[cobalt blade]

why couldnt this have happened in phrecia when these were a mirror

unlike the 30c they are in normal leagues

[loud geyser]

i keep forgetting about this helmet

so crown of eyes

spell dmg scale

[split palm]

endleague gamba?

[loud geyser]

i wonder if i can do vaal LS

[rancid sluice]

i kinda wanna try storm burst totem heiro but i think ill wait till next league on that

[inner prawn]

inquisitor is just a super flexible ascendacy.

you can do just about anything with it

[cobalt blade]

nah i just like running them

[loud geyser]

yeaa im on third league so far and still trying to find something good to leaguestart with

so now im trying old man for the first time

[cobalt blade]

it is profitable on average but im getting unlucky rn

[loud geyser]

that long neck

[inner prawn]

that build was not a league starter.

you could probably do smite inquisitor on a league start

[short prairie]

Yes if you have the budget

[onyx adder]

a bunch of ppl played trans storm burst totem hiero im not a huge fan

[inner prawn]

but you aren't gonna have the level of gear i had on it.

[onyx adder]

its mechanically a lot worse for bossing than regular storm burst which is the point of that build imo

[loud geyser]

ah

[onyx adder]

at least u dont want to actively uninstall every time u put a map in the map device

[rancid sluice]

ah well ppl did say ST would suffer from how the orbs spread

on replusion that is

[onyx adder]

in order to do good ST u have to stand still and spam totem

[loud geyser]

guess ill stick to eblade battlemage for now

[onyx adder]

to destroy the totems and make the channel end

[loud geyser]

and run spells until i have the means to get that build setup

[rancid sluice]

yeah i saw that on one of lily's videos she said you wanna be recasting them constantly for st

[onyx adder]

i played the skill as self cast this league it was pretty comfy when u have proper control

[loud geyser]

https://youtu.be/MZcElp_q_94

this video makes me hopeful for the run

[short prairie]

Aren’t you ssf starting with flicker ?

[loud geyser]

0.o

ive never picked up flicker before

but yeah i am ssf starting

[limpid prairie]

im seeing that awakened cast on crit was like uh 20% more dps
what do you do now that it doesnt exist just be sad?

[loud geyser]

use normal cast on crit

[frigid wedge]

cry

[split palm]

hi sans

[limpid prairie]

will try but it doesnt help too much :,(

[frigid wedge]

hi shika

[loud geyser]

20% less than a bajillion is still close to a bajillion

im sure yall coc players will be fine

[frigid wedge]

nor does bleeding on my keyboard but i seem to do that quite often

[limpid prairie]

you ok?

[frigid wedge]

yep

[short prairie]

Shiba

[onyx adder]

Its ok i get it, reading build suggestions in this channel also makes my eyeballs bleed

[frigid wedge]

hands

[frigid wedge]

cute doggos

[slow sonnet]

Lifetap build

[short prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/anjing-tehe-gif-18324816751340946477

[frigid wedge]

ur name is so fuckin fitting rn

i want food but food requires taking off gloves

[stuck phoenix]

What kinda gloves don't let you use utensils

[slow sonnet]

Mitts?

[rancid sluice]

when hcssf isnt hard enough you go full oven mitts

[bleak quiver]

most of them?

[frigid wedge]

biscuit related food

[stuck phoenix]

Hm

[short prairie]

Why are you putting on gloves the first place

[stuck phoenix]

I feel like if you want to you can defeat the biscuit

[frigid wedge]

to keep my hands

[short prairie]

From?

[sage falcon]

otherwise, their hands will be taken away from them.

[stuck phoenix]

Soap

[bleak quiver]

the hand eating monsters are pretty active during this time of year

[short prairie]

Makes sense so your soap doesn’t slip and you don’t need to pick them up

[stuck phoenix]

Mmm

My hands are a bit dry. I should probably oil them up

[short prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/drop-the-soap-drop-soap-soap-drop-dont-drop-the-soap-gif-22961728

[frigid wedge]

kek

[short prairie]

Turn you heat on if you’re keeping you hand away from the cold

Unless your house is an igloo

[bleak quiver]

playing poe is already a good heater

[frigid wedge]

[viscid ruin]

toteminerinos fusilerinos kinetikerinos

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027865040784736326/1445254625946239048/heghagha.webp

[short prairie]

Totem? ❌ fusillade? ❌ kinetics? ❌ FLICKER? ✅

[viscid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/ascension-sponge-bob-gif-15077046

wolf howl music sound

[pulsar ice]

I think I'm the first person to ever volatile vaal this shield lol

[astral brook]

i thought i got banned lol

[bleak quiver]

yeah, discord had a oopsy

[astral brook]

ye il just run white inscription

[tranquil umbra]

ok I actually bothered to roll for 120 currency t16.5s

if this doesn't pay back I am killing everyone

[rancid seal]

ok i am ready

with my paper build

https://pobb.in/bqrkNQm2f40J

[bleak quiver]

the allergic to jewels build

[short prairie]

wdf

pinnacle boss option from mirage

[stuck phoenix]

What is that filter

[split palm]

the ruthless classic

[bleak quiver]

he's holding alt for sure

[spice pecan]

uh

has anyone else had an elder guardian map not spawn a portal in the boss room?

[wheat sinew]

soon™

[bleak quiver]

which layout?

[short prairie]

i had to hold ALT

[spice pecan]

shrine layout

literally killed an elder portal and mobs in the boss room, nothing left in the boss room, map not marked as completed

[wheat sinew]

missing all the delve rings

[spice pecan]

shrine boss room, no boss, no elder portal, map not completed

[bleak quiver]

weirdge, maybe you cleared it in mirage first? had some weird bugs with that

[spice pecan]

no, didnt do mirage this map at all

[bleak quiver]

hmm

[short prairie]

you upset piety

[spice pecan]

idk

i made a bug report

this is super weird

[hard cliff]

Pooopety

GOT HER

boom

[stuck phoenix]

And you looked around the room I assume

[spice pecan]

yes, the boss arena is not very large

[stuck phoenix]

Out of curiosity, is she counted towards monsters alive

[spice pecan]

i'm not sure, the map is not "complete"

[stuck phoenix]

Yeah I'm just asking because she's further in than your screenshot when she spawns

[cobalt blade]

i assume you checked the back corner

[spice pecan]

i can go backtrack and try to kill every mob i guess

nah yeah the boss room is completely empty

[cobalt blade]

interesting

[spice pecan]

i've tried leaving and re entering as well

[normal hedge]

shes busy cooking cookies

[spice pecan]

wait what the fuck

[bleak quiver]

[spice pecan]

the elder portal spawned OUTSIDE the boss room??????

[cobalt blade]

OH

[spice pecan]

what in the fuck??

[cobalt blade]

its that map where you fight her for a second outside the boss room

and then she enters the portal

[bleak quiver]

yeah, this boss technically has 2 arenas

[spice pecan]

i didn't even see her outside the boss arena

and she went INTO the arena

[bleak quiver]

same as the pale/white something (the map with the display case and 2 statues)

[spice pecan]

because i saw the portal light up like something was using it

what in the hell happened

[tranquil umbra]

haunted map

searching for a portal that doesn't exist

[native abyss]

[pulsar ice]

can you recombinate a regular wand with a convoking (minion) wand?

[tranquil umbra]

yes

but none of the convoking mods will transfer

[pulsar ice]

yeah that's kinda the point, time to NNN abuse

[split palm]

btw

predictable recomb is silly

it lets you force bases

[cold sable]

is there a way to convert a unique into its foulborn version

or can it legit only be made by naturalling it from the tree

[split palm]

tree only

albeit something like a mythic orb for foulborns would be cool

[limpid prairie]

it sure would be

[native abyss]

what the hell

[frigid wedge]

aurora we need to take the lasoo tool from you

this is concerning

xD

[split palm]

who's aurora xd

[normal hedge]

the singer

[limpid prairie]

the star

[frigid wedge]

her^

[split palm]

oh

wait

my brain was off for a sec

I understood lasso as something ENTIRELY different

[frigid wedge]

how does one achieve this

[frigid wedge]

do tell

[split palm]

doesn'T matter

[limpid prairie]

i have to find out if i can like
start the selection then stop

[split palm]

I was like

[limpid prairie]

then start again
and then i can do "kirie"*

[split palm]

trying to not get my ass nuked in a game

[frigid wedge]

imma head to bed

[frigid wedge]

o no

[split palm]

good night sans

[frigid wedge]

make selection rlly thin in middle

[strange moon]

so i just found something out that I wish I knew earlier memory of Reverance is selling for 8c and they have a guaranteed drop (if im not mistaken) an item to sell for 400c like aint that kinda really good if you can do a bunch of them really fast?

[normal hedge]

it can be good if ure giga broke

but not a really high d/h strat

[cobalt blade]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-cat-pat-pat-gif-25250101

gn

[cobalt blade]

it takes like 10-20 minutes per set

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/VCC7GA7.png

[cobalt blade]

prolly closer to 10

[cold sable]

but like how is this possible then

[normal hedge]

what set are you talking about

[cold sable]

is this guy just buying and reselling

[cobalt blade]

set of maps

[normal hedge]

speedrunning the chain doenst takes you 20 minutes

you dont do all of them

[cobalt blade]

since you have to do 5? memory influ maps killing the bosses into killing the innocence? boss

or w/e one it was

ye i said prolly closer to 10

[normal hedge]

nah you only do the best one and when you kill the last boss you repeat

[cobalt blade]

yuh

[normal hedge]

and pray mirage dupes it

[strange moon]

for 5 base t16 maps? not really especially if you know the route

[split palm]

less i'd say

white maps no affixes

kill boss gg go next

[cobalt blade]

innocence boss

[strange moon]

you could probably get it close to 10div an hour if your good enough

[limpid prairie]

if one map is city square or mesa its faster

[normal hedge]

id say most leaguestarters can do harvest

and its way higher income than that

[strange moon]

you can guaranteed the first map

[cobalt blade]

ye mayb im honestly not too sure how long it takes since my loadscreens into those maps tend to be a minute or 2

lol

[strange moon]

my crap build still going through it for the first run was less then 10 minutes

[cobalt blade]

ic

[strange moon]

(build isnt that crap but i just suck at using it)

also didnt have most of the places memorized

[split palm]

shrimply hardware issue

[short prairie]

melee phys damage smh

[cobalt blade]

absolutely

[cobalt blade]

🥀

needs suffixes now

[strange moon]

man my laptop every once in a while makes a maps (or maps in general) drop down to 10-20fps and sometimes crash

[split palm]

at least you have ram

how old is that cpu even

[cobalt blade]

10 or 11 years old lol

[strange moon]

i do have what i think is a good cpu but the graphics are integrated

and the ram is nice

[cobalt blade]

its okay for a laptop cpu yeah

[split palm]

rn i only have 32gigs because a stick commited harakiri

had to send both sticks back for warranty xd

[cobalt blade]

did you get hit with one of those "we can only give you the money equal to what you spend at the time you bought it" pos replies

[split palm]

no

[strange moon]

man thats only? have you seen the prices recently

[cobalt blade]

holy

[split palm]

they'll just send a new pair

never had any issues with electronics

Either full refund, or I get sent a new whatever

the one fuckign time I order somethign from germany

"uhhhhh, well you see, you ordered it for a company so uhhhh, we can't have you return the goods, because it's uuhhhhhhh reasons"

[cobalt blade]

ye its just been somewhat common with the massive increase to ram prices for ram warranties to be partially denied

[limpid prairie]

How do you gurantee an item? are we saying
"youll on average drop something?"

[split palm]

so

the thing is

[cobalt blade]

these just always give an echo of reverence

after you finish it

[split palm]

switzerland is a bit silly

[limpid prairie]

oh!

[split palm]

the manufacturer

is not liable

but the seller

is

[cobalt blade]

i see

[viscid ruin]

you're silly

[strange moon]

yeah they are just a 100% drop rate lol wasnt sure of it but thought so

[split palm]

but if your T&C actually state that there is no such warranty

you are basically left with the item

[onyx adder]

🥔 monka

[split palm]

btw

do rota

get a chance for a dupe invite :)

two of them are relatively pricy

[livid quarry]

u play poe on that?

[winter radish]

im not even playing originator map wtf is going on

[cosmic eagle]

we need originator map now to get divines?

[cold sable]

when decorating hideout how do i select things without moving to them

[lean urchin]

are u sure thats possible?

[cold sable]

.

theres deadass no way its not possible

cmon now..

[lean urchin]

its an ancient system from year 1520

[cold sable]

this game is like 15 years old this is a week 2 problem

[winter radish]

this kinda loot was what i got back in mercenary league with juiced abyss lol

crazy to get it on regular t16

i guess i have seen nothing of this league's loot yet

[limpid prairie]

how does beyond even work?
sometimes i spawn one boss and nothing more
other times i get one spawn of one boss then another and third one later
rarely it works as intented? and all three bosses spawn on top of each other

[cosmic eagle]

try to use beyond scarabs

[limpid prairie]

uh... using bosses beyond and invasion

[cosmic eagle]

so 30% + another 30% on atlas node pretty much it

[limpid prairie]

but but but
beyond scarb says
if you spawn boss
you get 2 more

why not 2 more sometimes?

[cobalt blade]

yes

[livid quarry]

can u do breach?

[strange moon]

Man can ANYONE do breach without lagging

[cobalt blade]

well i cant die in breach so yes

[lean urchin]

nah, cheiftain goes BOOM and pc and mobs die

[strange moon]

How?

[cobalt blade]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Nacasatú-2245/mirage/character/NacaWitchMirage

5% recover on block kinda op with this much es

[livid quarry]

naca u r a champ

[cobalt blade]

no im an occultist

[strange moon]

OK so its THE WALL build got it... I need to play this next time

[livid quarry]

champ irl

[cobalt blade]

it also just has like 300m dps lol

[strange moon]

How much div do i need to do either this or something like this (ok with being a lot weaker i just want to play something like this

[cobalt blade]

uh for becoming an immortal wall you can do it significantly cheaper on a glad setup at the cost of basically having no DPS

probably around the 100-200d range rn

for the actual cost of my current character "yes"

[strange moon]

How about minus the mageblood and i just spam the f*ck out of my flask slots?

[cobalt blade]

this is screams

[strange moon]

Oh wait are the shrine buffs needed

[cobalt blade]

its not needed just a significant portion of the damage /defence

[cobalt blade]

but res shrine belt glad setup at around that range would be tankier with low damage^

[fervent jolt]

hypothetically could you use emnitiy's to loop?

[strange moon]

Man i will never be able to grind with that much with my current build (really hate my build i die from the lightest of breezes)

[cobalt blade]

the horrors of playing deadeye

[strange moon]

Especially as your first character

[strange moon]

And the shitty thing is he doesnt even do that much damage

[cobalt blade]

lmao

[split palm]

it's just 6d and a dream

delusional sellers

[cobalt blade]

so true

[split palm]

naca

7d for the belt

[strange moon]

Like I would usually expect a squishy character to do some damage but its just so low

[night fulcrum]

how to get double / triple annoint (can be random idc) on an amulet ?

[split palm]

double drops from blight ravaged

triple is strugglescream

or whatever it was called

can be quad btw

[lean urchin]

stranglescream

strangle something

[split palm]

you cna have five anoints total

[night fulcrum]

is there some special conditions for the double anoint to drop ?

[split palm]

which is silly

[split palm]

check the wiki

[night fulcrum]

i dont see

i checked

[split palm]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Blight-ravaged_map

[lean urchin]

iirc its from a atlas node?

[strange moon]

Wait is an unidentified mageblood only 7 div right now?

Maybe I should roll one

[ruby geyser]

Is Jungs POB what people are following for mambas? I might alter it a bit

[short prairie]

why the rare beasts never come in pairs

[hazy roost]

claw

[split palm]

where other modifiers

silly

offer 3c

[night fulcrum]

ah, but if i'm in a league with no rare drop isn't that thing bricked ?

[lean urchin]

does that include heist?

[split palm]

that'S self inflicted

go figure it out

[hazy roost]

go on trade sort by local added chaos damage and it has higher flat than the 1000d synth bow 💀

[strange moon]

btw what do you mean mageblood is like 85div for unidentified

[hazy roost]

funny 4 mod claw

[split palm]

what are you even talking about

you realize there are different belts

and not sure where this says "mageblood"

[strange moon]

Ah ok got it i misunderstood sorry

[split palm]

maybe I am this dylsexic

[strange moon]

Oh im dumb thats the one from black barya

[split palm]

but to me it clearly says screams of the desiccated

[strange moon]

Should I try rolling one

Nvm I should start saving for a tank build

[strange moon]

Do you have an example of this build?

[cobalt blade]

look up ephemeral edge gladiator valdo builds

[strange moon]

Also if it hits more then a million dps then im fine (current is 1.4mill)

[devout shoal]

ok it only took me 2,5h to transfer all my loot from hcssf to ssf

so fun

now 3 more to get my atlas progress back

[short prairie]

what can i do with this

[devout shoal]

and i have to farm gold and dust

[bleak quiver]

mamba

[short prairie]

[cobalt blade]

probably has more lol

[short prairie]

perfect agony mamba?

[bleak quiver]

yeah

[short prairie]

pf?

[bleak quiver]

why not

[strange moon]

😭 I really hate my build so much why is this build even on maxroll

[bleak quiver]

[short prairie]

deathbeam would be proud if i go pf

lol

[bleak quiver]

i dont see why not

only argument would be assassin is easier to cap crit, but then you are playing assassin

[lean urchin]

ai

[inner prawn]

you fell for the maxroll bait.

[short prairie]

well, the taken as cold is really good for pf since she has perma taste of hate uptime

[bleak quiver]

yeah, the taken is a easy 100% phys conversion

only need a not horrible seed on timeless, nothing a few divs and prayers cant solve

[inner prawn]

alright bois. i just need to get a lock and see what would happen if i threw an orb of dominance at this.

[strange moon]

Look its my first character and most of the youtube guides says follow a maxroll guide... the guide was also from havoc which are not beginner friendly builds lol

[lean urchin]

poe is not beginner friendly tbh

so ggg made poe 2

[cobalt blade]

resistances are overrated anyway

[bleak quiver]

just dont get hit

[cobalt blade]

i can still face tank

[bleak quiver]

you know whats the worst part? they never even attempted to fix that

[strange moon]

Yeah i know but tbf its not as unbeginner friendly as people act yeah it has a lot of mechanics but ehen following a guide and only slightly touching league michanics it is pretty simple... then you hit maps and it laughs in your face while pummeling you into the floor

[cobalt blade]

doesnt rly do damage

(phys as extra altar)

[strange moon]

Man i want that build... how many hours did you grind for that?

[lean urchin]

too much

[cobalt blade]

uh i dont actually know but i got it going week 6 but couldve grabbed accel impen* by week 2 ish

[short prairie]

holy f

after 500 maps

finally a vulture

[cobalt blade]

did other stuff originally for fun

[steel light]

u out zdps my cws?

[lean urchin]

i keep reading cws as cast when shanneling

[cobalt blade]

nah i just stood in them because i was curious if they could kill me with phys as extra

they die with 1 tap

[steel light]

cast when sexting

[cobalt blade]

smol bit of damage 3m average hit

[steel light]

weak, white mob dies without me pressing a button

[cobalt blade]

technically speaking

ifi remove void manip from tempest shield same

but then cant run ele reflect because it also kills me

[strange moon]

"Every skyblock players biggest dream is not having to play the game anymore" technoblade

[viscid ruin]

POGOTINOS

[bleak quiver]

cws reigns supreme

[viscid ruin]

i would say pathfinder but your flask is already blooded

so maybe pathfinder

:D

[cosmic eagle]

surely that will reroll your implicit

[short prairie]

they were all sh!t

[cosmic eagle]

[short prairie]

i wold have better luck just harvest add implicit

[raven acorn]

Ello👋

[lean urchin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/90s-clueless-3hxk2aOwWmfOU

[cosmic eagle]

white juice is so rare i think i culled too many orange plots and not a single 1 dropped oshabis pearl

[native abyss]

[lean urchin]

DO NOT the white juice

[cosmic eagle]

ill juice u up

[lean urchin]

wierd enough. i havent put points into harvest and got 2 very quick on leaguestart

[daring bluff]

here senses

[short prairie]

SSF best mode

[opaque sphinx]

nerds

all my shitty y16s finally sold

[strange moon]

I ain't ever touching that mode with a ten foot pole

[rancid seal]

same

[full kraken]

sorry dawg there can only be one

[rancid seal]

if i want SSF i play D4 🙂

[daring bluff]

i can't play normal mode and i blame runescape for that

[strange moon]

[pulsar ice]

28.5% chance to hit what I want (kinetic wand with triple ele prefixes and attack speed fracture)

lost BAD

[cosmic eagle]

true, but i am scared for scarab sustain next league

[short prairie]

[cosmic eagle]

• if cord belt aint going core imma crashout

[opaque sphinx]

got 35d to try and finish build with

leggo

u guys ever notice the "behold, my stuff!" guy is the same fuckin dude as billy butcher from the boys?

rewatching ragnarok and i recognized the voice like wtf?
then half expected him to yell "oi cunt" when thor popped out the bifrost and scared the girls away

[strange moon]

still annoyed this guy got a longer death scene then all of thors friends combined

[opaque sphinx]

yeah but none of them ever said "behold, my stuff!"

he earned it

[short prairie]

bro i alr dont have scarab sustain rn

i need 1000 beastiary scarabs

[opaque sphinx]

boxes on haunted mansion 4head

[cosmic eagle]

try that without touching boxes inside mirage

[full fossil]

are there any like literally immortal builds atm? {e.g not dying to memory game/sirus storms/meteor} was debating pathfinder ward break but that gets nuked by the storms

[short prairie]

on average 1 per map

[opaque sphinx]

soon as u drop 1 containment ur pretty set

[cosmic eagle]

slammer? like the bonerzone

something like that

[bleak quiver]

that is not even close to immortal

[onyx adder]

Zoomers learning who karl urban is actually makes my knees hurt

[short prairie]

my containment cant sustain anymore

[opaque sphinx]

are u callin me a zoomer

[gritty garnet]

you mean karl city square?

[onyx adder]

Anyone who hasnt watched lotr in 2026 is a zoomer

[short prairie]

a boomer

[onyx adder]

Im sure mr urban lasts longer than the 15 second average city square

[opaque sphinx]

bro i fucking love lotr i just didn't recognize him

[onyx adder]

💀

[opaque sphinx]

nobody even likes eomer anyway

[full fossil]

i heard that wasnt immortal though? sure its tanky due to its regen + endurance charges but thats about it i think

[opaque sphinx]

lifestack glad prob most immortal thing atm

[short prairie]

what crafts do i make next

[opaque sphinx]

or arm stack

[gritty garnet]

it's more so that you need to be building tanky (vs phys) in the first place for trauma

[full fossil]

isnt that the uh bob shit tho

[opaque sphinx]

no?

[full fossil]

i see alot of life stack glads going the bob thing tho

[cosmic eagle]

you want immortal? play quins build then

[opaque sphinx]

yes because its immortal, which is the only thing that matters when ur bob is all ur dmg

[cosmic eagle]

pick all life nodes in your passive tree

[full fossil]

huh people in big daddys discord were saying armour stack is just big dmg not immortal anymore

[opaque sphinx]

yeah idk they must've not seen his own recent vid

where he tanked memory game

https://youtu.be/usXbDUSf1vA?t=621

timestamped

[full fossil]

i mean hes also on like a ton of mirrors tho

[opaque sphinx]

bro took like 600 dmg from uber memory game

[opaque sphinx]

u dont play armourstacker unless u have that

[full fossil]

i mean i think big daddy said he had like 30mirrors on his champion one or smth tho

so idk

[pulsar ice]

attempt 2, kinda want this one to fail cuz t2 lightning bad bud good enough to try

[cosmic eagle]

i mean if you really want immo build, you'll likely spend more than a mirror

[opaque sphinx]

yes but u dont need 30 mirrors into it

[pulsar ice]

failed

[short prairie]

what kind of recomb is that

[pulsar ice]

very ethical

[short prairie]

ethical but not optimal smh

[opaque sphinx]

the reason his shit is 30 mirrors btw is cuz he has triple synth clusters everywhere

u dont remotely need that

[cosmic eagle]

teach me

[onyx adder]

Even more ethical than recombing a 6t1 axe with suffixes first

Damn

[cobalt blade]

you can make armour stacker v good on a mageblood + a few hundred d ^

very much dont need to enter multi mirror territory lol

[timid crow]

hell, i'm at maybe 130div for strenght stack kinetic fussilade totems and i'm handling literally everything in the game for a joke

[full fossil]

saw a pob on youtube that was about 3mirror but only had 32mill hp with 2.8mill armour

[timid crow]

i don't even have a mageblood

[full fossil]

so its like idfk how you get dmg on that build

[opaque sphinx]

sure u can make it work but the investment is not remotely worth it compared to other builds till u hit that 2-3mir range imo

[cobalt blade]

i disagree with transcendance shield existing rn

normally yeah tho

transcendance shield actually gives you nuts tank at that lvl

[opaque sphinx]

thats fair

gem time

[cobalt blade]

normally would say not to touch armour stacker till atleast 3p voices and overcap setup

once your at that lvl it does tend to be "efficient" scaling

[limpid prairie]

How much is a high pack size map

[short prairie]

sure right after i block you : )

[cobalt blade]

thats high pack size

[bleak quiver]

less than 100 quant, vendor it

[limpid prairie]

might be max pack size?

i dont know what the theoretical limit

[cobalt blade]

you can chisel it for more

[limpid prairie]

its for selling

[cobalt blade]

and idk if its overall highest but its for sure close

ahh

[bleak quiver]

nigtmare maps can get 100

[short prairie]

oh

[strange moon]

is there a way to check merchant sell history somethings sold and i cant remember what exactly

[bleak quiver]

upper right

[opaque sphinx]

can u use facetor on corrupted gem

[bleak quiver]

trade site also has it

[lean urchin]

i would assume so, but idk

[opaque sphinx]

whack

[strange moon]

neat thanks

[short prairie]

meh

[cobalt blade]

well ye it is pre only

[opaque sphinx]

shaper slam reforge def

[bleak quiver]

tree can get the prefixes, the rest is the hard part

[opaque sphinx]

rest is the easy part, just expensive

[cosmic eagle]

teach me how to recomb why you blocking me

[bleak quiver]

to get them good, not usable

[short prairie]

theres no teaching

[cosmic eagle]

[cobalt blade]

ye thats easy

its just shaper slam reforge defence(dont get unlucky) multi mod pre cant be changed veiled ex

1/3 to lose get a decent id lol

[opaque sphinx]

yer its just preflock reforge def (1/6)
multimod preflock aisling
done

[short prairie]

i got unlucky twice

filled suff in 1 reforge

[cobalt blade]

skill issue

[strange moon]

after one 8 minute run (which i could do faster probably) i got this for an item that cost 6-9c

[bleak quiver]

yeah, just be lucky 4head, thats easy actually

[short prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/milj-milk-skill-issue-spill-issue-spill-gif-25572474

[strange moon]

vaal temple might have been from before it though

[cobalt blade]

i mean its a 1/6 and 1/21? 18? to filll

i dont actually remember fill odds but its skill issue if oyu fill

[opaque sphinx]

1/12 iirc

[onyx adder]

1/12 is correct

[cobalt blade]

ah

[limpid prairie]

This worked perfectly, thanks a lot for the tip <3

[cobalt blade]

fair enough

[onyx adder]

And ur odds of hitting is what

800/5800

[opaque sphinx]

ish

[onyx adder]

So like 1/7ish i cbf to math

[opaque sphinx]

its 1/6 or 1/7 roughly i remember as

[onyx adder]

Practically guaranteed

[cosmic eagle]

recomb me reduced crit + life on block and fire res

[short prairie]

just find shaper bases and alt

[full kraken]

WAIT YOU CAN RIGHT CLICK AN ITEM TO UNVEIL IT IN HIDEOUT?

since when?!

[onyx adder]

Cant u force the crit mod after u do the first two

[short prairie]

3.26

dont tell me youve been going to jun to unveil

[opaque sphinx]

bruh gems are expensive

[short prairie]

lol

[opaque sphinx]

can u not get cwdt as an imbue

[bleak quiver]

no

[opaque sphinx]

FUCK

[bleak quiver]

there are no lvl 20 gems elegible to be supported by lvl 1 cwdt

[opaque sphinx]

oh right

it has to be 20

godfuckindamnit

nvm i can use hextouch

nvm no i cant

[bleak quiver]

hextouch and hexbloom are pretty goated imbues

[opaque sphinx]

fuck u buddy

[short prairie]

i think my WBM is cursed

5 misses

[onyx adder]

Oh no its this shit again

How much beasts have u been running lmao

[short prairie]

6

[short prairie]

about 500 maps

[onyx adder]

ic

And ur short on divs?

[short prairie]

icant .. 7

[onyx adder]

Oh ur broke

Alright carry on brokie

[opaque sphinx]

is 7% dps loss worth pseudo crit immunity

probably right

[onyx adder]

Not usually in sc imo

[bleak quiver]

yes

[short prairie]

8

[opaque sphinx]

fuck

[onyx adder]

Id pay probably passive point for that

So call it 4%

Which is what u pay on poison builds

[opaque sphinx]

valid

[onyx adder]

Id probably pay 2 for real crit immune

[short prairie]

9 WBM to get a prfixe cannot be changed ...

cursed

[opaque sphinx]

crack lance disintegrate w/ hexbloom/hexpass/hextouch conductivity cwdt was the pseudo immunity

[short prairie]

GG

worthed the 9 WBMs

[opaque sphinx]

huge

now do it again

[onyx adder]

Must be nice

[opaque sphinx]

so u can divine it to 5 without bricking ur prefixes

[short prairie]

do i risk veiled exalt

can have 3 mods prefix cant change

slam

[opaque sphinx]

yur

[vocal tinsel]

why 3 mod pcbc?

[onyx adder]

At ur current rate its another 60 WBMs to recreate the item if u brick the veiled ex

[vocal tinsel]

curious on that

[bleak quiver]

to reduce the chances too hit es on block with veiled exalt

[short prairie]

nvm then

[onyx adder]

Enjoy

[opaque sphinx]

makes it 2/3 to not hit ur es on block instead of 1/3

[vocal tinsel]

how does that work

[bleak quiver]

2/3 instead of 1/2

[opaque sphinx]

veiled exalt removes a mod then adds one

[vocal tinsel]

oh

its not like normal exalt

[opaque sphinx]

correct

[cobalt blade]

imo depends on what your doing

like if your doing valdos probably

if your not just play solaris

[opaque sphinx]

idk running around doing HoT things like an idiot

[vocal tinsel]

how come I cant put stuff in merch tab? everythings greyed out and tried remaking hideout alr

[opaque sphinx]

valid

[opaque sphinx]

close game and re-open

[cobalt blade]

love solaris

[vocal tinsel]

i tried that alr

[bleak quiver]

you need a new hideout instance

[onyx adder]

Veiled ex on shield suffix is the most mid shit ever anyway

[bleak quiver]

either close the game or create a new one with helena

[short prairie]

yer

[opaque sphinx]

curse effect gud

DD gud

[cobalt blade]

its something you can put in faustus right otherwise ye use helena to change hideout twice

[vocal tinsel]

full close didnt work D:

[onyx adder]

Just feel the vision and foulborn ex

Man gotta believe

[bleak quiver]

swap hideout to another and back

[vocal tinsel]

yea it is, if i swap and swap back will it retain the layout

[opaque sphinx]

true

just hit the +2 max res

[cobalt blade]

yes

[vocal tinsel]

okay ill take a break for a bit to make some dinner and if its still bugged ill try that

[bleak quiver]

you should also save a backup of your hideout anyway

[opaque sphinx]

damn bruh no frenzies for me for now

[vocal tinsel]

its a very basic layout on default hideout lol just dont wanna move things closer to waypoint again

[bleak quiver]

yo new scam

[cobalt blade]

<@&174997701513969665>

[short prairie]

lmao another 5 wbm

[lean urchin]

omgomgomg <@&174997701513969665>

[vocal tinsel]

i havent really touched my hideout at all

[opaque sphinx]

where the multimod

[onyx adder]

4th time with same wording mods havent autofiltered yet 🙁

[opaque sphinx]

water u dune

[short prairie]

im only divining

[opaque sphinx]

oh

[short prairie]

not gonna veil

[vocal tinsel]

50/50 veiled you got this

[opaque sphinx]

foul ex like wtd said

[cobalt blade]

imo no real point if you havent made some art or actual hideout

[bleak quiver]

browse https://hideoutshowcase.com/ for a bit, there's some cool shit there

[short prairie]

more like slam

[vocal tinsel]

my problem is i dont want all the flashy stuff on hideout I just want something basic

[bleak quiver]

just filter to basic hideouts

[vocal tinsel]

plus I skipped most of the hideout unlocks on the way through camp so I dont really have any/many good layouts lol

[opaque sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9FImc2LOr8

[short prairie]

done!

[cobalt blade]

like mines just everything in the middle of celestial hideout lol

[bleak quiver]

there are tags in the site, so you can look for efficient hideouts and shit if you want something simple

[cobalt blade]

if it somehow gets lost its maybe 5 minutes to recreate something just as good

[vocal tinsel]

ill take a peak ig

[short prairie]

[opaque sphinx]

i used divided, didn't put a ton of work into it but i like the split look

[short prairie]

so. what now

[stuck phoenix]

huh

[cobalt blade]

vaal everything

[bleak quiver]

after failing to get celestial from shaper, i bought it just to be able to use the "hideout warrior" hideouts

[cobalt blade]

if you run port you can get 5 astral touches

anything with phases/splitting boss does tha

[stuck phoenix]

mmm

[short prairie]

divided ho

[opaque sphinx]

i like the red and blue meeting in the middle

[cobalt blade]

imo a bit too much of an eyesore

[opaque sphinx]

need more better red deco tho

[bleak quiver]

i should probably check if there has been any updates to the hideout warriors...

[cobalt blade]

very bright hideout lol

[opaque sphinx]

tbf i usually have the primeval lights off

[bleak quiver]

last time they reduced the mouse movement required by 5 pixels (huge gains)

[short prairie]

you guys dont like greens?

[opaque sphinx]

u dont really get the extra brightness in the main area

its cuz of that sun, so u only really see it when u go menagerie

[kindred lily]

good ritual

[cobalt blade]

still a bit of an eye sore imo

but better

[short prairie]

this is my ho

[sour karma]

my eyes.... why

[opaque sphinx]

yer i need to make a new one at some point

lazy tho

[sour karma]

just move them so you can find them lmao

[short prairie]

https://hideoutshowcase.com/ i just rob them here

[cosmic eagle]

minimalist ho

[opaque sphinx]

copying that is like copying a pob tho

i refuse

[bold kelp]

Are there any big chaos hits in the game? Most of them are shotguns with like detonate dead stuff right

and on deaths?

[sour karma]

mostly ground effects, but yes

[opaque sphinx]

cat slam?

[sour karma]

there are exceptions but they are not the rule, thise are mostly added chaos damage

[cobalt blade]

p sure cata's mostly phys

[bold kelp]

Cuz i was thinking, do you really need capped chaos res as a svallin build? Pretty sure therse no big chaos hits

[opaque sphinx]

right yeah i feel like we went over this before

[cobalt blade]

phys as extra demagonz

[opaque sphinx]

cuz i thought CI made cat easy

[bold kelp]

Even this caps out at like 30% though

or 40%

[cobalt blade]

it also gives wither

[opaque sphinx]

also if ur not poison immune p important

[cobalt blade]

theres also extra chaos damage mobs which can do dumb damage

yer^

unless your super fucking tight on res you should cap

[bold kelp]

but with svallin most of the poisons are going to get blocked still right

[kindred lily]

LETS GOOO

[sour karma]

searing is the only danger zone. mostly just getting chaos res to 0 is fine

[cobalt blade]

nah

theres also ritual chaos mobs

including chaos DD

[pulsar ice]

surely this one would succeed

[cobalt blade]

just phys as extra on your map as i mentioned

[short prairie]

are you on a luck streak

[cosmic eagle]

that's too many mods man

[cobalt blade]

with wither you get extremely fucked up

[sour karma]

that has visual indicators if you are fast enough

[karmic gust]

you also inherently havee like 3 times lower chaos mitigation even with capped chaos res on most builds

so you better at least cap the res

[cobalt blade]

does not matter

[opaque sphinx]

why do u want frac AS so bad

[kindred lily]

same map dropped 7 years bad luck

[pulsar ice]

I don't know, I do this just for fun mostly

[opaque sphinx]

fair enough

[short prairie]

.

you want 2p 2p for prefix

[pulsar ice]

I lost the 50/50 on the base 😭

[opaque sphinx]

motherfker i forgot about tattoos

noooooooooooooo

[sour karma]

personally i do towards the endgame, but its the last thing i max. 30 percent feels good enough for my builds (i play melee usually)

[pulsar ice]

this is better chances than 2p 2p

[short prairie]

better than with 2p 2p ONLY with the useful mods

you need to annul the junk mods

[pulsar ice]

minion damage and levels can't transfer to the kinetic wand

so its 5 prefix mod pool with only 3 that can transfer

[opaque sphinx]

oh thank god es tats are cheap

[short prairie]

i wouldnt NNN craft that weapon

[sour karma]

block ones are also usually cheap too if that helps the build

[short prairie]

it's way easier to just recomb the normal way

[opaque sphinx]

i need 2 but last i checked they were not cheap

[cobalt blade]

not this league lol

[pulsar ice]

those donor bases were liek 1 div each, i'd say it's a good deal

[sour karma]

welp i tried

[bleak quiver]

not last league either

[opaque sphinx]

oh only 500c ea

not that bad

[short prairie]

what if it chose the wrong base

[sour karma]

gambling at its finest

[short prairie]

[sour karma]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-out-loud-laugh-ridiculous-hilarious-lolz-gif-17376550074772904877

[bleak quiver]

[pulsar ice]

than it's bad and I lose, but still better since I get a 4 mod item if I win and it has the correct fracture so I can metamod cycle suffixes until I get the 5th mod I want

[bleak quiver]

i hate beasts

[sour karma]

omen of connections or 1500 fusings?

[lean urchin]

poe.ninja

[sour karma]

otherwise its around 1000 fusings to hit a 6 link on average

[short prairie]

beast lock

[bleak quiver]

no, im lock strand crafting

[sour karma]

ahh ok

i hope it goes fast

[bleak quiver]

but now ive blown 300d, time to go back to the mines

(mostly my fault for deleting the settled boots)

[sour karma]

have you ever heard of our lord and savior steve?

i hear people dig him.... get it? please get it

[limpid prairie]

Cleaned 50 locks to hit my helical like that hope it goes better for you <3

[bleak quiver]

i hope it ends soon

[strange moon]

eyy first div from boat

[normal hedge]

huge

[strange moon]

gonna be honest thought the shipments were a complete scam... still think they are slightly a scam just cause how much gold i had to use

[normal hedge]

tattoo ships are pretty good overall

[strange moon]

anyone have a good glad leveling guide?

[grim pivot]

Sunder

[elder hazel]

Sunder

leveling guide for any class: pick damage nodes on tree, pick skill gem and full send it

[strange moon]

k will level with havocs guide... i will admit i am a little scared last time i used his guide was when i first started playing i used his guide and was hell confused

[elder hazel]

u don’t need a guide just damage and a dream

[vocal tinsel]

ty found a simple one I liked on a hideout I had unlocked

[vocal tinsel]

if you have some currency to drop on it the kf lightning warp setup is a great option for all classes

[marsh robin]

could anyone help me find this large cluster jewel and how to find it on the market?

[vocal tinsel]

super fast leveling but is getting a bit pricier now that its becoming more popular

[strange moon]

im using the currency i got on the whole reason im upgrading a duelist so dont got any for another build

[vocal tinsel]

ahh yeah I spent like 3-5d on a budget setup without the better stuff like a super nice watchers eye and took me like 3-4hr to get through camp on my second ever camp run (mirage is my first league)

[strange moon]

same here! i am spending like 20-30 div on the final build of this guy which is just a tanky build (just came off deadeye it was kinda painful)

[vocal tinsel]

oh no that was just for the leveling build lol

[rancid sluice]

HARVEST PAYS

[sleek barn]

I don't like your font

but gz

[rancid sluice]

rude

[full kraken]

#4 of the league!

[full kraken]

grats!

[sleek barn]

it stems from my own insecurity and a hint of jealousy

sorry

[rancid sluice]

forgiven

[tranquil umbra]

gambale it

[rancid sluice]

hell no its my first one ever im going to frame a picture on my wall

[tranquil umbra]

I replied to pixxel

[rancid sluice]

oh lol sorry

[short prairie]

dude

i got 4 brothers gifts today

whats happening

[tranquil umbra]

your brother is sending you gifts

accept them

[short prairie]

feels rich

ancient orb w

i can finally start playing an ES character

was waiting for EE

[dire pond]

https://youtu.be/-6mCneS2aFM?si=AqWO9jOieSb3zJPL
New Poe.ninja feature.

[bold kelp]

Full mirage maps dont drop from full mirages right?

I feel like I get less of them when running full mirage maps

[vocal tinsel]

keystones on timeless jewels only matter by whos conquering it right? the like "comissioned XXXXX coins" on caspiro for example only change noteables?

[rancid sluice]

they have a chance to drop from bosses afaik

in the mirage

[bold kelp]

Even in full mirage maps?

[limpid prairie]

so many chance orbs
so many chances to get a double influenced mage blood

[bold kelp]

I'm running terrors in full mirage maps

and havent seen a full mirage drop

[short prairie]

it aint gonna happen

[vocal tinsel]

anything can happen

i dropped a mirror in a 3man gsf private league in a t14 map from a random mob today

anything can happen

[limpid prairie]

not with that attitude!

[bold kelp]

cuz ik astrolabes dont drop in astrolabe maps

[languid echo]

did people like trial of the ancestors? seemed pretty far removed from most league mechanics

[rancid sluice]

i dont know for sure then. just assumed it'd be the same as any mirage

[bold kelp]

just seems weird running like 10 full mirage terrorss

which would've been a ton of map bosses

The first non full mirage map i do has dropped one already

I think you cant get full mirages from full mirage maps

Similar to how you cant get astrolabes

[cobalt blade]

full mirage maps cant drop full mirages yes

[vocal tinsel]

weird considering you can drop originator influenced maps in originator maps

[bold kelp]

Thats kind of a shame

means I have to do haunted mansion

but I cant maven it

....

so no chisels

silo mirage covers less of the shrines

[cobalt blade]

tbf

if your running terrors altars are better given enough maps

[obsidian hatch]

Can someone explain why sometimes my Vaal absolution will not allow me to cast it even when there are enemies nearby? I am playing on PC but with controller if that has something to do with it.

[cobalt blade]

eventually youll get the boss drops 5 divine orbs altar

[opaque phoenix]

Anyway to zoom in or out of delve map without the mouse wheel?

[bold kelp]

Im mostly here for chisels and astrolabes cuz ssf

mostly astrolabes tbh

[cobalt blade]

if your goal is to just get to and from a depth number fast

depth:xxx will jump you to that depth

[bold kelp]

So I doubt i'll hit a divine boss altar, since scarab limited

[hard cliff]

You need a abso minion already out

[cobalt blade]

ah fair

[obsidian hatch]

ah ok thanks

[hard cliff]

Vaal abso was so good this league

[cobalt blade]

(otherwise i dont think theres a way to zoom out without it excluding maybe controller ui)

[hard cliff]

Got me a seer mageblood

poggers

[daring bluff]

is there any way to farm nightmare maps on ssf?

[cobalt blade]

escalation multitudes/rly any map farm

[rancid sluice]

i see at least a couple a run usually doing the kalguuran map setup

[thick goblet]

just watch scary movies before bed

[full fossil]

anyone know wtf the mechanic with The Monastery Bell and the anticipation shield is to make you survive uber mavens brain explode with smacking hydrosphere

i saw it online and now im confuse

think its something to do with this mod, but other than that im not sure how they survive it

[short prairie]

That’s only gonna work with armor stackers

[full fossil]

right i know that

[short prairie]

You attack hydrosphere to trigger bell and fort

[full fossil]

but im curious how it actually works

like is it just because it forces you to count as blocked recently for the 8-12% armour if blocked recently ?

or what

[nocturne maple]

yes

you smack a hydrosphere and now you fulfill the block condition for the shield

[full fossil]

interesting gimick

[short prairie]

Why you use SMACK

[full fossil]

i wonder if that'll survive

[short prairie]

Sus

[nocturne maple]

smack

[full fossil]

btw anyone know if armour stack scion or champ is better on 15 mir~

[short prairie]

Sussy pegin

[full fossil]

tryna figure out which i should go for

[short prairie]

[short prairie]

Scion

[nocturne maple]

it's been over a month since league started, I've gotten bored. This is normal

[full fossil]

i heard scion is better overall but squishier?

[short prairie]

What

She ain’t squishy

[nocturne maple]

bigdaddy's thoughts on ascen vs champ

imo it doesn't matter

[drowsy eagle]

looks better ❤️

[nocturne maple]

you have 15 mirrors, who cares

[full fossil]

this is what i was told

[short prairie]

Lmao looks better

[short prairie]

I have absolutely no idea where you get that from

[nocturne maple]

this was the case before the shield mod

[full fossil]

this is from big daddys discord a few days ago

{2 days ago}

[nocturne maple]

nowadays, armourstackers have decent tank

[short prairie]

What budget