1┃general

[rancid seal]

per day

[hard cliff]

can you use flicker strike with a mace?

[tranquil umbra]

mjolner is very fun because it's using cyclone to proc that but I get to use cwc lightning warp

best mobility I've ever had

[dense rock]

flicker doesnt care as long as its a melee weapon

[hard cliff]

didn't know that

neat I guess

[dense rock]

double poets pen, arc in other and lightning warp in the other. FASTEST TWINK LVLING EVER

shoot out projectiles to automatically teleport full screen lenght and annihilate everything between the 2 points with arc

[surreal mulch]

i haven't levelled a twink in like 5 years

[dense rock]

whenever i make a spell build as my 2nd build, i like to go poets just for the qol lvling experience

[surreal mulch]

can't wait for them to gut wanders next league so I can never experience it and have massive perma regret

[dense rock]

it doesnt care about wand nerfs 😄

[surreal mulch]

doesn't have to be spell it can be a giant jacked man with two tiny sticks

it is technically an attack

[dense rock]

good ol angry man swinging sticks with such strenght that the resulting arc hits with the power of truck-kun

you just use the attack to make the spells happen

the attack can be anything

the spells do all the heavy lifting

[rancid seal]

ok my build work

i just killed real anti rf boss

[hard cliff]

you're looking at this wrong

you won by not playing a mainstream build

[rancid seal]

maven witness 4 bosses 1 was (Fire exposure -20% res ) burning damage taken 30% more burn dmg taken debuff , bleeding , corrupt blood , burn ground

and fire totem dot ray

[surreal mulch]

yeah but who am I gonna brag about never playing minion pact to yk

[hard cliff]

me

[surreal mulch]

no one is gonna care

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[surreal mulch]

plus im still mainstream andy because I caved in and got a shrine belt

[loud geyser]

how does eblade inquisitor work for leaguestart but needs foulborn ghostwrithe :(

[surreal mulch]

admittedly an off meta one

most people go diamond

[hard cliff]

can you use a regular one as a place holder?

[surreal mulch]

templar has a lot of options for blasting through campaign with ease

totems and like absolution and other shit

[loud geyser]

foulborn makes it so ES is = to 40% of ur max life

normal one converts max life

[surreal mulch]

you could probably target farm FB ghostwrithe yourself

it's a really common unique

[split palm]

wow

the fucking amulet sold 150d under market value

[fathom basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hawk-tuah-minion-spit-on-that-thang-gif-1762375008245577527

[split palm]

in just 3 days

or 2

idk

[opal ingot]

slightly ded league

[cobalt blade]

You play regular writhe till you can afford it

[loud geyser]

ok thats 2 people saying that

ig ill go regular writhe

[cobalt blade]

do sanctum or something til you get 2-3 div for it or whatever it costs at start

[loud geyser]

is sanctum good at league start?

[split palm]

finally can do something

[cobalt blade]

its not great but you dont really get hit if your good so can play lowlife with zdefence

[opal ingot]

i cant

[cobalt blade]

and brute force dmg up enough to get early div

[normal hedge]

not really

[split palm]

the issue is

[surreal mulch]

fuck no

[split palm]

nothing will sell

[drowsy eagle]

what if I lack the your good part

[opal ingot]

u have to play ethically now

[cobalt blade]

The other option is running heist contracts for your first few div

but thats more miserable

[surreal mulch]

there's a lot of giga low investment atlas stuff you can farm while you're getting your atlas points right now

[cobalt blade]

heist

[split palm]

I wanna craft tho

[modest sparrow]

MY BELOVED

[cobalt blade]

🥀

[modest sparrow]

Liiisten

It saves lives

What if they add a thief that meows

Would it be better for you

[split palm]

meow

[rancid sluice]

a cat burglar

[tranquil umbra]

cat burger

[surreal mulch]

huck meows if you order him to

[cobalt blade]

meow

[normal hedge]

meow

[tranquil umbra]

we have a catgirl role in my friend server for anyone who says meow

the mark of shame

[normal hedge]

good job

[surreal mulch]

I have 30 hits per second with cyclone and idk if I care to scale it more

from my 4 mil phys dps

[normal hedge]

isnt there a cap of 33

[tranquil umbra]

I kinda want to try the volatile dead build magefist did but I cba to learn about trigger rate and cooldowns

[dark kite]

i should probably do some fuckshit with foulborn ghostwrithe

[rancid seal]

look at my new beauty 🙂

[surreal mulch]

imagine if they let you dual weild shields so you could do svalinn squire detonate dead

[normal hedge]

Its easier than you think

[tranquil umbra]

is it

[cobalt blade]

the good girl mark

[rancid seal]

now i slap on armor 3% phys reduce and we got 11% phys reduce

higher than before

[surreal mulch]

why are you not using endurance charges

[rancid seal]

Meow ?

[tranquil umbra]

that's on sublime

[cobalt blade]

meow

[rancid seal]

look at my tag

🙂

[cobalt blade]

isee

[surreal mulch]

how hard is it to cap block when dualwielding compared to shield. is it like giga annoying?

[opal ingot]

imagine if i didn't have nameless ascendancy

[rancid seal]

are you necromancer

[cobalt blade]

rly easy if you click versatile

[opal ingot]

i remmeber back in t17 days this would delete me

[tranquil umbra]

one of the funny benefits of the nameless ascendency

[surreal mulch]

no

[cobalt blade]

theres a shit ton of atk block while dual wielding nodes

[dense rock]

aint normal block fairly easy but trying to cap spell block is the problem?

[rancid seal]

dual weld is best as necro

[opal ingot]

i bet they'd swap some shit

[rancid seal]

Necro Assassin

[cobalt blade]

That is where versatile comes in yes

[surreal mulch]

I never actually did a dual weilding build

[rancid seal]

you get Bone offering for block and spirit offering for crit and assasin for crit and immune to reflect when u crit

[surreal mulch]

plus the node before more than skill would turn the 20% more attack speed bonus into 40% which sounds giga enticing

[tranquil umbra]

the only dual wield build I did was in Phrecia with double HoTM Wildspeaker

[rancid seal]

Necro Asssassin is best dual wield

[cobalt blade]

that also gives you block

[rancid seal]

100% crit 800% crit multi

you use Abyssus too

[cobalt blade]

Iirc inherent dual wield bonus includes 20 block

[rancid seal]

and 100% of phys taken as ele

now can use res belt for max res

screaming with resistant shrine

[surreal mulch]

yeah I know but I consider that to be "lose shield" replacement

[tacit crow]

oh hello no

shes back

[cobalt blade]

I mean its 10 less block than shield

lol

[surreal mulch]

one small issue is I don't know how much losing azadi is gonna hurt

[cobalt blade]

its fine

[rancid seal]

i am rf Coc buddy now 🙂

[cobalt blade]

Outside of exclusively like ruin azadi is whatever

[tacit crow]

link me the pob

[cobalt blade]

(assuming your not like 5k max hit 99% block)

[surreal mulch]

my svalinn necro runs ultimatums anyways

[winter radish]

is fortress still easiest t17?

[cobalt blade]

yes

[surreal mulch]

isn't it abom

[cobalt blade]

You need to do all 5 for points tho but you can remove mods with dextral sinistral

[winter radish]

where tf is it on atlas actually

[surreal mulch]

or does trinity hit really hard

[dense rock]

aint fortress the one with immune phases n shit?

[cobalt blade]

fortress boss kinda does nothing

[opal ingot]

awesome beyond boss

[cobalt blade]

Top right

iirc

Its on the voidstone pages

[tranquil umbra]

damn

is that deli beyond

[winter radish]

i see, i need to do cortex first wahtever that was

[cobalt blade]

no

Hes the heist boss

that spins

and dies in 2 seconds because no immune phases

[rancid seal]

1 sec i just make it

[winter radish]

ive never been able to actually kill him reliably lol

[cobalt blade]

^ but uh cat if you struggle to do them

you can use those scarabs to do no mod

[winter radish]

yeah i remmeber

[winter radish]

u mean all 5 t17s?

[cobalt blade]

Yuh

1 point per one

[winter radish]

for what points? atlas?

[dense rock]

do those scarabs still give the IIQ etc even tho they negate the mods?

[cobalt blade]

Yuh

[winter radish]

im doing just one for scarab

too expensive to do the rest rn

[cobalt blade]

no thats part of the mods

[winter radish]

im on like 3 divs shit aint free

[cobalt blade]

fair nuff gl

[cobalt blade]

(otherwise mod effect wouldnt scale the quant per mod)

Its just a hidden stat on each modifier

[winter radish]

im playing rue's ele hit btw

[dense rock]

so the scarabs are there just so you can roll a gigachad map and then run it without the gigachad factor?

[winter radish]

excited to see how it does against fortress boss

cause last league i played kb and it was dog ass until i hit like 200 div investment or something

[rancid seal]

what

from 23k max hit to 26k

i gained only 8% phys reduce mod

[cobalt blade]

so you can run empty maps or juice up say a set of prefixes that gives 70% pack size

since rolling good pack size suff and pre isa pita

[rancid seal]

23k to 27k phys max hit

this mist be broken

i gained 11% phys reduce

how 11% says this

[tacit crow]

where is it

[surreal mulch]

I found some very interesting fuckery https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/Hitaron-0896/AgonyHarald

[spice pecan]

interesting choice to go LL coruscating without ivory tower

also 2x replica reckless defense on a gladiator is hilarious

[cobalt blade]

its for more damage from the ascend

[spice pecan]

more damage? what?

oh you meant the LL stuff

yeah i guess

[cobalt blade]

farewell to flesh

Yea

it seems questionable but understandable without scaling into life to go ll non ivory lol

[surreal mulch]

tbf getting 99% more damage from an ascendancy notable is quite nutty

id go ivory tho

[cobalt blade]

hes not reserving 99% with hoag though

[surreal mulch]

hog

[cobalt blade]

has disc and envy

[surreal mulch]

yeah that part is weird

[winter radish]

maven's writ is... 7 chaos?

[surreal mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/boar-boars-you-have-alerted-the-horse-you-have-alerted-alert-gif-25951334

[winter radish]

what happened

[surreal mulch]

maven drops nothing

[rancid sluice]

been like that all league

[surreal mulch]

apparently

[cobalt blade]

you can print them with awakening scarab

[limpid prairie]

could use the grasping mail mod?

[cobalt blade]

Shes good profit off conflicts tho if you dont mind running regular mavens

[cobalt blade]

grasping mail mod is while not on low life

that setup wants to reserve its life

[rancid seal]

https://pobb.in/niD5KsvLCIbC there

this is for fun still experimenting of course

i will prolly try vaal rf

since other one is weird

[dense rock]

i smell pob fuckery

[rancid seal]

and prolly on more dps like 10m version

call me dummy but how i remove tag

i added it for fun but i dont wanna have it anymore

[twin arch]

xd

[cobalt blade]

click the tag you selected in the edit profile section

[dense rock]

AG 🤮

[opal ingot]

found something

[normal hedge]

holy new poe ninja update is pretty good

[cobalt blade]

surely mb

[rancid seal]

thanks

[rancid seal]

normal minion mods ?

[opal ingot]

ugh

wurm hi

[twin arch]

please dont talk to me

[normal hedge]

it

[cobalt blade]

volatile it

[twin arch]

[opal ingot]

only if it keeps the foil (it doesnt)

[rancid seal]

please dont Talk about me negatively

[split palm]

@frigid wedge

[dense rock]

does it keep the sparkly factor?

[normal hedge]

ahhh you know

[normal hedge]

nope

thats the funny part

[opal ingot]

yeah im pro

ben is around my skill level

[normal hedge]

u're so humble

ofc hes not

[split palm]

4 locks.

FOUR

LOCKS

FUCK OFF

NO WAY

[cobalt blade]

you keep going until 35 ms right

[split palm]

😭

unethical

[normal hedge]

22 strands op

[dense rock]

offering 1c + necropolis map

[split palm]

...

[covert swan]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[frigid wedge]

nice one

[cobalt blade]

cant even offer necropolis maps anymore 🥀

[dense rock]

what do we use as a substitute? 😄

[opal ingot]

grok can i mirror service this

[split palm]

and done

this pisses me off rn

[frigid wedge]

y

[split palm]

I spent less than 50d total.

how much did we spend on the previous pair?

300-ish?

and it was worse

[cobalt blade]

50d? sounds mass craftable for templing

[split palm]

true!!!

[limpid prairie]

better spam foulborn exalta till you get T1 regen rate

or is that mod not natural?

[frigid wedge]

idk

[cobalt blade]

it is

[limpid prairie]

down the drain the currency goes...

[twin arch]

god i fucking hate boxes

"you cant block scarabs or you lose money/h"

"but if you dont block them you fill your inventory"

like ok

oil and water ass advice

[spice pecan]

arent boxes specifically for farming scarabs now

[twin arch]

yes

but you only have so many inventory squares

[normal hedge]

you block them and roll the boxes

wym

[surreal mulch]

oh apparently festering resentment lets you cap spell block on DW without versatile

[cobalt blade]

Its technically correct to use like 2 filters for scarab farming that show half the scarabs each

[hearty swan]

salut scarab farmer

[spice pecan]

did you know you can put portal scrolls in your inventory

[cobalt blade]

so you can loot whole stacks of each without your screen being filled

[twin arch]

to what end

[hearty swan]

also, ditch those simu splinters Lol

[spice pecan]

to go put shit in your stash

so you can loot more\

!!!!!!!!

[twin arch]

yea

timeloss

though

if you cant loot the whole mirage and be done in a minute 30

[mystic gale]

is bleed bow scion good idea for first time playing ssf sc? i just want to try ssf and idk which build could be good for the first time

[twin arch]

your rates are almost halved

[surreal mulch]

she splinter on my simu till i fog

[devout shoal]

is there some way of getting alt orbs with these?

[spice pecan]

on ssf i'd go bleed bow glad tbh

[twin arch]

^

why scion lol

[limpid prairie]

i believe they use haemophilia gloves for clear

[split palm]

sad to see those go tbh

[spice pecan]

but if you're dead set on playing a scion then bleed bow is very much ssf playable, though if you aren't glad then not having explode is going to feel bad

[tacit crow]

that is not a lot of jewels

[spice pecan]

jaytx played bleed bow on reliquarian this league

[tacit crow]

clusters may be better suited than a lot of the tree nodes you grab

[spice pecan]

dont think it's better than slayer tbh

[surreal mulch]

uuuuuuh...... bow builds tend to have wacky defences

[twin arch]

oh so its like a fubgoon zeitgeist effect thing

yea just play slayer

xd

[spice pecan]

i mean he's THE bleed bow guy

[cobalt blade]

huh

[spice pecan]

i still think glad into slayer frenzy stack is better but

[mystic gale]

i played glad before and i just want to try smth else

[spice pecan]

it is ssf playable on scion too, just gonna feel worse

[twin arch]

?

have u seen slayer frenzy stack

lemme find the video

[split palm]

I wish there was some super silly build that uses this

[twin arch]

its nuts

[surreal mulch]

flicker frenzy stacker seems giga fun I just can't commit to it properly

[normal hedge]

yeah leaguestart a frenzy stacker slayer in ssf gonna be a great idea

[surreal mulch]

plus I don't like the right side of the tree for all the frenzy notables

[spice pecan]

scion probably doesn't feel good before the frenzy stack swap anyways

[cobalt blade]

25 cold res ring op

[mystic gale]

there are the gloves that give explodes i think

[twin arch]

yea thats why you start as glad bleed bow

READING

COMPREHENSION

[split palm]

the ring is like

[spice pecan]

yes, hemophilia gloves

[split palm]

I always have to hit the corrupt once every league

[cobalt blade]

its ssf you kinda really need frenzy shit

[split palm]

for it to be a "complete" league

[surreal mulch]

why the fuck would you go glad bleed bow when you can just slam at that point

[spice pecan]

i think scion really needs the bleed bow uniques compared to glad tho

[twin arch]

CAUSE HE ASKED

[spice pecan]

slams are boring as fuck

[twin arch]

FOR BLEED BOW

yall are pissing me off

L tier ragebait

[normal hedge]

slam slop

hope they keep nerfing it

[blazing spear]

Because we want to have fun

[surreal mulch]

excuse me you don't like gigantic circles of spikes covering your screen?

[blazing spear]

We want to develop our builds

[surreal mulch]

snipe is debatably fun tho

[spice pecan]

i haven't tried reliquarian bleed bow tho, but i can't imagine it feeling very good before hemophilia and usurper's penance

[mystic gale]

ye and going meta is boring

[blazing spear]

We're not always meta slaves

[surreal mulch]

snipe is like a slam but bow

giga slow

[surreal mulch]

slams aren't meta

[mystic gale]

its not that slow

[spice pecan]

also bleed bow is the best way to level a duelist

[cobalt blade]

are you still a meta slave if you create the meta

[cobalt blade]

???

[spice pecan]

slams are fucking dumb

[surreal mulch]

no one is staying slams for any period of time because they're slow as shit

[cobalt blade]

they are absolutely still meta not as much in sc but still heavily played in both sc/hc

[split palm]

silly

[normal hedge]

[mystic gale]

i would play scion bleed bow on trade league but i dont like the feel that i can just buy smth. farming it is more satysfying

[limpid prairie]

yo
not bad at all

[cobalt blade]

This is one of my favourite cards theyve added

surely you get the like % att and int/str%

[tacit crow]

these ones are weird

[split palm]

made back 1/20th of what I paid so far !!!

[spice pecan]

bleed bow definitely ssf playable like i said, just will feel worse than gladiator until you get uniques

[tacit crow]

these ones are weird

because of the corrupted mod

[spice pecan]

also bleed bow is REALLY nice cuz you can play it from level 2

[tacit crow]

being basically worse than the notmal mods that can roll

[split palm]

"doubled"

btw

[spice pecan]

so you dont have to fuck around with doing some bullshit in campaign

[split palm]

"DOUBLED"

[spice pecan]

you just play it right off the bat

[split palm]

where 2nd zombie

[mystic gale]

ye i know i know but the uniques like these bleed explosives gloves and that helment for bleed frenzy stacking arent that rare right?

[cobalt blade]

its kinda just attributes and int%/str% that can be nuts

[cobalt blade]

your holding alt

[split palm]

wait nvm

alt shows 1

[spice pecan]

hemophilia and usurper's penance aren't too rare, no

[limpid prairie]

double so 4

[devout shoal]

is that craftable or do i have to use the tree

on ssf

[cobalt blade]

i cant remember if +1 curse got doubles but iirc it didnt

[spice pecan]

might be a pain to farm olesya's delight from maven when you want to go frenzy stack tho

and frenzy ralakesh ofc

[tacit crow]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/List_of_modifiers_for_amulets

[mystic gale]

ye i think ill try it. u think i should just follow the bleed bow guys pob or make one myself?

[tacit crow]

check te corr ammy mods

they almost all suck

+1 curse tho.

[spice pecan]

jaytx is the bleed bow guy, would probably use his pob if it's updated

[mystic gale]

k ty bro

[split palm]

all are min rolled pog

[spice pecan]

i know his slayer one is a bit outdated but the reliquarian one should be new

[split palm]

on the last one

[rough field]

You can either recomb or use dense fossils for prefixes yus

[cobalt blade]

pre cant be changed reforge phys forces pdr so you just craft pre and yolo slam for res after(or craft on res fracture from tree)

[tacit crow]

what the

if you hit +2 curse and like, attributes

that could be GIGA

or curse and %mana

[cobalt blade]

does the curse even scale

[tacit crow]

some kboc shit

[cobalt blade]

I dont actually know if it does

[tacit crow]

unsure

[normal hedge]

think lance played bleed bow this league as well no?

[tacit crow]

it would be nice

[normal hedge]

you can take a look what he did

[cobalt blade]

would give a good hit for multiple outcomes

Crit multi +2 curse

[tacit crow]

all res curse

mana/life curse

attr curse

[cobalt blade]

Yea

[rough field]

"an additional curse" doesn't sound like it can be scalable

[tacit crow]

one can cope

[cobalt blade]

it depends on how they treat it as a value if there's another item that has +2 curse and uses the same mod but with a value of 2

actually i can just check trade

[tacit crow]

with crit multi

is cope cope cope

[tacit crow]

OOH

so you can

interesting

[limpid prairie]

WTF

[normal hedge]

wait thats huge

[limpid prairie]

Is that

[tacit crow]

now you just gotta land that with something good

[split palm]

good luck with that

[cobalt blade]

Yup

[limpid prairie]

triple curse amulet lol

whats optimal with that

[normal hedge]

huh

[cobalt blade]

its clearly a 4 curse amulet

[cobalt blade]

what

[tacit crow]

interesting

[normal hedge]

100c

its mine now

[mental nymph]

[tacit crow]

yea someone gotta make something

around that

[normal hedge]

oh

[mental nymph]

How much is it's real worth ?

[normal hedge]

you can roll way more than that

[tacit crow]

get that + whispers of doom + normal 1 curse

[cobalt blade]

who knows

[normal hedge]

thats minrollx dd

[tacit crow]

4 curses off 1 item

[limpid prairie]

you must annoint whispers of doom yeah

[cobalt blade]

if someone makes a video with it it could shoot to the moon

[tacit crow]

4 curses (technically) off 1 item

[cobalt blade]

If noone uses it its 5c

[limpid prairie]

obligatory for the funsies

[tacit crow]

someone should pob around that

[cobalt blade]

(or 100c in this case eventually if noone buys it would get lowered)

[tacit crow]

a curse stack

[mental nymph]

You're the man Kafka

[opal ingot]

What if I buy and vendor it

[tacit crow]

am i

im the man?

[split palm]

kinda cheap ngl

[mental nymph]

Maybe

[cobalt blade]

all being mid rolled att kinda pain

[normal hedge]

dont forget to include this

[split palm]

cursestacker

[normal hedge]

and the body armour mod iirc

[tacit crow]

a 6link curse on hit

could go disgusting

[cobalt blade]

and then go occy

[tacit crow]

6 curses with imbued on hit

i might pob something

[limpid prairie]

build your armour with hubter +1 curse
use chaos dmg and roll some hunter items

[tacit crow]

this is very interesting to me

[cobalt blade]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Doedre's_Scorn

This is still a hat that exists

[devout shoal]

oh ok

[cobalt blade]

actually a kinda good amount of flat

[split palm]

all that with whispering coil

to get all the souls in a picosecond

because you have a trillion billions curses on enemies

[tacit crow]

ass mark, punishment, frostbite, temp chains, ele weekness, enfeeble

or 5 with an empower

drop temp chains or enf

[split palm]

didn't that have a FB version with imp. doom

[tacit crow]

get one of them imbued

[cobalt blade]

yeh

[split palm]

yes it did lmao

[tacit crow]

you really could make a freaky curse stacker

[tranquil umbra]

freak stacker

[graceful whale]

Hi anyone can help me with my Cyclone of tumult voidshock build ? ... im doing something wrong but cant find where

[split palm]

that is silly

[tranquil umbra]

what exactly is wrong

[tacit crow]

i will PoB this

ill make something outta this

[split palm]

6.1k flat chaos

[tacit crow]

sounds good?

[normal hedge]

post your pob in #1019646743299764255 or #1┃build-planning

[rough field]

You do need a 100+ dense fossils to hit triple t1 which is alot of delving + red harvest juice to swap fossils, so recomb is probably best to do earlier on and save fossils for overquality like wat I have currently for ES base

[graceful whale]

alright will find out how to post pob and post here

[tranquil umbra]

isn't Shako better

[split palm]

where petals silly

[cobalt blade]

It was like 50d for 35 unbricked shako when i checked last night

[tranquil umbra]

the helmet itself isn't that good

[cobalt blade]

On unfractured not taking into account reforge more likelys it's about 1800 dense for triple t1 on es bases

[split palm]

ih yeah, that exists too lmao

[cobalt blade]

armour is i think a bit better but ye

[split palm]

holy combo

[tranquil umbra]

Lv35 ID should be much better than that

[split palm]

cast on death portal

with curses

[tranquil umbra]

xD

[rough field]

I exalt slammed my 3rd t1 prefix

kekMega

[tranquil umbra]

gg

[split palm]

where strands

btw

[limpid prairie]

talented crafter

[rough field]

Strands did nothing after consume

[tranquil umbra]

strands are for the weak

[split palm]

were you not rolling with strands?

[rough field]

I forgor to imprint so I just yoloed it with dense

[split palm]

they don't get consumed with resos

[rough field]

I was...

Even triple splitted with strands

[cobalt blade]

they do get consumed by your exalting so gotta rely more on more likelys

[rough field]

I went dense until triple prefixes, consume strands and it did nothing

[normal hedge]

uhm

[rough field]

Like dat order

[split palm]

prefixes were all t1 xd

[normal hedge]

what tier was it

[split palm]

baka da ne?

[rough field]

I forgor, like 3 2 3?

[normal hedge]

🤡 ?

[cobalt blade]

But tbh i personally dont rly like strands on the triple t1 bodies cos it's nice to have exalting open and its painful to clear suff lol(and 1700 dense isnt that bad)

[cobalt blade]

You wanna consume on 1/2/2 or 1/1/2

[split palm]

1700 dense is not bad

but at that point

just fucking fracture

and keep spamming eldrtich 😭

[rough field]

Only used like 80 dense or so

[cobalt blade]

Shika it's 1700 dense not taking into account exalting or more likely

[rough field]

With reforge more likely

[cobalt blade]

its way lower with those

[tranquil umbra]

fracture a 28 qual base?

fuck no

[split palm]

it's literally

[tranquil umbra]

I ain't taking my chances

[split palm]

4d

[rough field]

I don't like fracture as it's my only overquality in ssf

[cobalt blade]

also if your doing that you fracture a non natural mod

[split palm]

sorry, 9

[tranquil umbra]

yeah that's also true

[split palm]

fair enough

[cobalt blade]

which makes the dense worse if suff fracture better if global def pre fracture

[limpid prairie]

reservation for the mirror armour please

[cobalt blade]

reservation bad frac

since thats just an essence

[split palm]

this helmet is staring at me

askinf to be recrafted

[cobalt blade]

technically nothing stops you essencing until triple t1

[tranquil umbra]

yeah but suffix

[cobalt blade]

ye but you should fracture something you cant normally get

[limpid prairie]

yeah technically xD

[cobalt blade]

like chaos dmg taken doesnt bypass

Or global def

[dense rock]

focus on getting the stun/block recovery to max value

[split palm]

but this is stopping me

[cobalt blade]

:3

[split palm]

I literally have NOTHING else to craft 😭

[normal hedge]

[hearty swan]

craft dn

[tranquil umbra]

chaos damage does not bypass ES while not on low life is such a useless mod icl

[hearty swan]

do the suffering craft

pbod helmet

[split palm]

like I can try hit t1 fire on my gloves instead of T2

[cobalt blade]

incorrect

guardian loves it for extra reservation space aura stacking

[split palm]

but that is just eldritch spam

[cobalt blade]

they can reserve stuff like arctic there without going ll

[tranquil umbra]

ig

[cobalt blade]

from the 50% generic reserve

[limpid prairie]

im using it cause im Jiqanis (blood magic)

[cobalt blade]

or anything with similar reserve

Yeah jiquanis loves it too so you dont need to play life based

[split palm]

boots are literally perfect... Albeit a crafted settle

[cobalt blade]

Mb toss like vit and maybe precision onto your life

+your eternal blessing ofc

[tranquil umbra]

I really gotta try an EBlade build

[normal hedge]

its pretty fun

[glad apex]

how low is the chance to get this again?

[cobalt blade]

its just play spell your enjoy but with good flat

[tranquil umbra]

I'd be using attacks though rather than spells

[cobalt blade]

50/50 it shows up or it doesnt

(but uh you could run 1000 maps and not see it)

[limpid prairie]

wanted to squeeze flesh and stone on my life pool but difficult
are there life reservation efficiency mods

[normal hedge]

theres people that have never seen it before

[cobalt blade]

guardian forbidden jewels or 20% life reserve mastery

[normal hedge]

i wanna believe its because they dont read

[cobalt blade]

and reservation implicit on jewels is also generic for 2% per

[glad apex]

shame i didnt run with empowered mirage

[cobalt blade]

Doesnt matter

[normal hedge]

its another instance

[haughty dirge]

Cool gloves but why not uhhhhhh the Puhuarte ones

[normal hedge]

gotta find it there as well

[cobalt blade]

youd probably not get it with empowered mirage since you get more altars in normal ones ive noticed lol

could just be going insane tho with thinking that

[haughty dirge]

Fire Res and DMG vs burning

[cobalt blade]

(can also do eclispe4+enlighten4 flesh and stone

[split palm]

I need the convert

[cobalt blade]

But would need to be careful to make sure your life spend doesnt push you below half

[normal hedge]

can still get the conversion

[limpid prairie]

now we are talking
but i was PoBing and i dont think is enough

[split palm]

wait

hm

[cobalt blade]

Maybe with mastery and full jewel corrupts

[split palm]

this is actually

hmmmm

[normal hedge]

is it worth it

throw it in config just to see

[cobalt blade]

i think its borderline doable flesh and stone is only a 35% right?

[split palm]

HMMMM

let me think

I though you meant the temple convert mod

[limpid prairie]

Yeah but i want flesh and stone / discipline

[haughty dirge]

Fracture this
Nvm craft advice forgot convert is prefix

You can have both

[devout shoal]

ok do i fail the grand heist if i dont steal the main thing?

[cobalt blade]

yeah i think thats borderline doable with both linked to eclipse/enlighten 4's and reserve corrupted jewels+20% mastery

[devout shoal]

cause i rolled 5 shit ones and i could get stacked decks instead

[haughty dirge]

Assuming you're not doing something to remove/change burning

[cobalt blade]

Yes but failing it doesnt matter

[devout shoal]

so i still can do the remaining wings?

[cobalt blade]

since you only fail that wing you can still do all 3 the only thing failing the heist did was no xp

[limpid prairie]

why life mastery doesnt say "you count as low HP when 45% or below" instead :(

[cobalt blade]

for the heist dudes

But thats not a thing anymore

[devout shoal]

o ok

[cobalt blade]

lol

True actually would be goated

[split palm]

it's gonna be annoying moving it to a high qual basew, but beside that

[cobalt blade]

eh you just need to buy it on es or dex gloves

str non native

[haughty dirge]

^

[cobalt blade]

wait @limpid prairie do you use a unique hat

could get 90% reserve corrupt if you do

(or 90% and +1 gems for enlighten/eclipse reserve too)

[limpid prairie]

ugh! i did buy +power charge already but could be

flesh and stone a lot better thab p charge

[cobalt blade]

prolly yea

Technically can also get 80% reserve corrupt if its not a boss drop hat

Because of glimpse of chaos shenanigans but probably expensive if popular hat

[limpid prairie]

foulborn

kitavas thrist

[cobalt blade]

Ah ye that also cuts that off

i see i see

[split palm]

how was it done again, isolate mod, essence str onto glove, recomb?

[cobalt blade]

isolate mod on both sides

1s on each exclusive/str

[surreal mulch]

you disappoint faustus and he puts you all the way back in every single currency queue for the next 3 days

[cobalt idol]

i am begging please someone help me out sanctum sucks ***

[split palm]

well

[cobalt idol]

i am literally about to go crazy i am trying to beat it for a month

[split palm]

now the braindead part

[dense rock]

Would be happy to help but i wont step inside sanctum because fuck that shit

[split palm]

how do I continue now xd

[cobalt idol]

just once dude can you like do an exception

[cobalt blade]

yolo frac and delete 30 qual bases every other fail

[tranquil umbra]

divine it to perfect

[dense rock]

if you can pay me 10divs/minute it takes

[cobalt blade]

(exalting pre only)

[dense rock]

i aint stepping sanctum for less 😄

[split palm]

true

[cobalt blade]

oh ye divine first with harvest ofc

[cobalt idol]

i cant pay per min man holy

but i can pay 10dic

[tranquil umbra]

does harvest actually convert temple mods

[dense rock]

why do you even need to do that? 😄

[cobalt idol]

bloodline

[cobalt blade]

yes

[tranquil umbra]

the more you know

[cobalt blade]

You can use it to get fire temple mod to cold one and divine for cheap as fuck before fracture

[split palm]

well

I have news

good and bad

It hit a fire mod

[tranquil umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/i-could've-sworn-there-was-a-gif-of-this-whatever-squid-game-squid-game-edit-squid-game-edit-meme-i'm-so-scared-gif-12360771953743496060

[limpid prairie]

i learn so much here better you dont see my temple mod gloves xD

[split palm]

it hit the wrong fire mod.

[tranquil umbra]

omega lol

run it back

[cobalt blade]

did you multimod exalt

instead of using eldritch

[cobalt blade]

incredible use of currency

[tranquil umbra]

honestly for that base I wouldn't even risk fracturing

[split palm]

I was thinking

If I sacrifice a few div

it will surely hit

I was wrong

[tranquil umbra]

I would just imprint

[dense rock]

hit it with divs until it hits back!

[cobalt blade]

i dont see why you wouldnt fracture its always saveable with 50/50 on keeping 30 qual

if you dont keep 30 qual you just delete another 30

[tranquil umbra]

ig

[cobalt blade]

(with essence int because i didnt realise shika was transferring to armour base)

[strange moon]

k so what quick question how is breach at all profitable i followed this guide and got this from my first map honestly this was worse then my other cheap breach farm that just sold the lavish wombgifts and this one cost like 2 div (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLGh-mk2ETk&t=163s)

[split palm]

I just realized

[limpid prairie]

i do wonder if i couls dry the 30% market doing the idiot sometimes

[split palm]

I don't really ignite shit

so this was a pointless endeavor

[cobalt blade]

absolutely

[split palm]

and I should have just...

done it absolutely differently

[cobalt blade]

are you cleaning the edges of the breaches n stuff you do actually need to run it properly

[split palm]

and just not been a silly fucking imbecile

[tranquil umbra]

breach needs really good clear

[limpid prairie]

any amount of ignite dmg will ignite if you are crit

[tranquil umbra]

to be profitable

[split palm]

the issue is

[strange moon]

wdym by cleaning the edges exactly

[cobalt blade]

ye random abyss jewel with flat fire

[split palm]

everything is dead

[limpid prairie]

if you are "the taming" is worth one mod to ignite

[split palm]

before I get the ignite

[cobalt blade]

like killing the mobs that spawn as the breach expands

[tranquil umbra]

you know when the breach bar is filled it still keeps expanding?

[cobalt blade]

And not just killing the rares/vruun instantly ignoring half the mobs in the breach

[strange moon]

yes

[cobalt blade]

ah okay

[split palm]

but I can recraft gloves

with 30 qual for the sake of it

it's super simple

[cobalt blade]

Assuming the maps on the left are tour rolled ones you did forget deli orb

[split palm]

lol

ok

[tranquil umbra]

deli gorb

[split palm]

wtf

[cobalt blade]

but idk what else you mightve rucked up without more context

[strange moon]

oh they are for a different farm i was doing

[split palm]

one funny orb used

[cobalt blade]

ah fair

[crisp obsidian]

pog vaal it

[strange moon]

i did a single deli orb on a t16.5 that already had 90% currency using dunes, 2 instability 1 marshal 2 whisp and grasping astrolab

[zealous flax]

https://tenor.com/view/g4-g4tv-fade-in-appearing-arriving-gif-24774832

Helo poe

[tranquil umbra]

hello damnation gambler

[zealous flax]

Just here to spread the word

[fathom basin]

hello puppygirl

[zealous flax]

https://tenor.com/view/heeheehottie-gif-michael-jackson-michael-jackson-stan-twitter-mj-stan-twitter-dancing-gif-12702828449628452117

Greatest of all time

[fathom basin]

why is everyone named zoey the same kind

[zealous flax]

That is my time to leave

[strange moon]

am i missing something with this?

[fathom basin]

no pls

[zealous flax]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-beat-it-choreography-dance-80s-music-gif-20427060

Go watch the movie

Now

All of you

[fathom basin]

path of exile movie?

[limpid prairie]

you should end up winning if you keep mapping like that
but odds are so low you still need lots of maps

[haughty dirge]

Watching Lion King 2

[zealous flax]

No the mj movie

Cause he's the GOAT

[fathom basin]

what happens in that?

[cobalt blade]

marshals bad

[haughty dirge]

Lions

[cobalt blade]

you want resonant cascade not that

[stark osprey]

the first lion king was a banger tbf

[fathom basin]

is he just doing king shit or is there some kind of strugle?

[strange moon]

damn it thats what i missed

[haughty dirge]

Scar's Son comes to infiltrate the Pride under the command of his mother, Scar's lioness

And then he has a change of heart

[split palm]

wtf is this reforge

[haughty dirge]

It's Lion King 1 in reverse

[fathom basin]

I think it made me try eating bugs as kid

[cobalt blade]

like on fubguns thats instability cascade bloodlines wisp and 2nd instability lol

[split palm]

all t1 xd

[stark osprey]

damnn 😭

[strange moon]

ok i dont know if i will be able to do it with resonant cascade cause it will be stronger and idk if i want to but another div for this strat when ive never gotten a div from it

[cobalt blade]

but substituting bloodlines for 2nd wisp is fine for a budget setup but still quite a bit worse

[stark osprey]

maybe ill give it a watch thanks

[fathom basin]

I was in kindergarden and bored to be fair

[limpid prairie]

Hard to survive, specially if you find wildwood

[zealous flax]

You haven't seen lion king 1?

[stark osprey]

valid then i guess haha

[cobalt blade]

recover on block my beloved

become actively difficult to kill :3

[strange moon]

bloodlines is like 1 div each run i cant put that much in when its given me shit so far

[zealous flax]

Eating bugs is not valid even for a kindagardener 😭

[tranquil umbra]

they are playing LA that's kinda the normal

[cobalt blade]

ye that is fair

[split maple]

For cheap breach I would do Just 2x instability 2x lineages 1x wisp

With proper map rolling that should be 1-2 raw div a map

[cobalt blade]

id do 1x lineage 2x wisp

[fathom basin]

I also took naps undersnow and in bushes when I was too bored and people would think I was dead or something I was a freak

[cobalt blade]

imo wisp is more valuable

[limpid prairie]

meta players am i right?

[zealous flax]

2 lin is better

I ran cheap for ages

[split maple]

If weak build or want more uniques substitute nemeses for wisp ig

[haughty dirge]

In some cultures eating insects is just normal, like Peruvian lemon ants that they eat like popcorn

[zealous flax]

The more packsize was significantly better

[fathom basin]

https://youtu.be/smE-uIljiGo?list=RDsmE-uIljiGo

[stark osprey]

hahah 😭

[cobalt blade]

wisp seemed better to me when i tried it for a bit but i was also capable of running basically anything map mod wise so had giga inherent pack size

[zealous flax]

Yeah after being cooked and served correctly

Not just pick up and nom

[cobalt blade]

but very quickly moved to actual breach

[zealous flax]

😭

[cobalt blade]

so dont like have a good large sample size

[spice pecan]

on Scrandle there's an option for a bowl of fried insects from some stadium in Laos i think

[split maple]

I think main issue folks have with breaching is rolling maps only for currency and not currency + pack size

Like pack size matters a lot a lot

[cobalt blade]

yea maybe

[devout shoal]

wtf

[cobalt blade]

could def see that

[strange moon]

ill try again with 2 wisp 1 lin and see if i can clear might drop to no deli cause it might be to strong

[stark osprey]

100 dmg bruh i have like 7dmg 😂

[split maple]

Yeah I am skipping deli at all

[cobalt blade]

no deli is massive loot down imo

[split maple]

My PC wants to kill me as it is already

[cobalt blade]

like its extremely noticeable

[strange moon]

fine ill keep the deli but idk if ill be able to clear it

[split maple]

Tho I think I am only having issue with lag in deli due to DPS issues

[strange moon]

mine is starting to do that lol

[split maple]

If you can insta pop packs delied it shouldn't lag more

[cobalt blade]

i have lag because of computer issues but its the same regardless of deli

:D

1070 does not like thosem aps

[split maple]

Yeah Naca you have DPS, I have mf

😄

[limpid prairie]

i wonder can you fullfill the enshrouded astrolabe with deli orbs maps?
do you get fogs on deli orb maps

[cobalt blade]

cant open it

and you do get fogs on deli orb

[limpid prairie]

ugh!

[split maple]

Like with proj heavy skills if you don't insta pop stuff my PC melts

[strange moon]

this map good?

[split maple]

Moar pack size

[cobalt blade]

needs to be exalted

[strange moon]

exalted?

[split maple]

I roll maps for currency, ex ex, then if packsize is bad roll more

[cobalt blade]

for more quant/pack size

[cobalt blade]

yep same

[limpid prairie]

decent, i use 60% quant for the first astrolabe map/second 90% quant for the next

[cobalt blade]

ill keep 30 pack size with a bit over 100 currency 40+ with 60+%

[split maple]

i wish I could sustain chaos ngl

[strange moon]

how about exalting this?

[split maple]

Exalts are cheap man

Don't even think about it

Just ex ex

[cobalt blade]

its low odds you hit a currency mod but yeah ex are dirt cheap and you self sustain

on breach

or atleast if you can run every mod you do*

[strange moon]

i just dont know if its good/ how exalts work

[cobalt blade]

it adds a mod to the map

[tranquil umbra]

exalts just add a modifier

very simple

[cobalt blade]

could be a +30 currency mod

or a +10 pack size mod w/e

[split maple]

Each mod has inherent pack size/currency/whqtever

[strange moon]

ehhhh kinda idk if i can run with this much on it

[limpid prairie]

you sustain by selling the 50+ pack size maps and the 100+ maps

[split maple]

You want more mods for both that and more explicit effect per mod

[cobalt blade]

its still worth exalting

[split maple]

I could sustain by fausting divs anyways :p

Its Just gsf issue

[strange moon]

that elemental res might be killer tbh

im LA build

[tranquil umbra]

shoild I go for currency or pack size in deli beyond hmmmmm

[split maple]

Don't you have pen

[cobalt blade]

or invert the rules

[limpid prairie]

if you cant run 16.5 then you shoudnt run them? xD
its hard content you could so 8 mod T16s or brain dead beast farming

[cobalt blade]

i think current LA runs that

[spice pecan]

cassia, are you feeling alright?

[strange moon]

oh wait your right... does that mean that thats actually a buff for me?

[cobalt blade]

yep

yep it does

[split maple]

+res mods are 99% of time ignorable no matter the build

[strange moon]

hehehehe

all good correct?

[lyric field]

Is poe wiki slow to load for other people? Been unbearable slow for a while for me :<

[spice pecan]

baby blight

[tranquil umbra]

should be good

[spice pecan]

dropped a div, HOLY

[split maple]

Hmm yea tho I was blaming my wifi for that

[cobalt blade]

thought u were gonna try a lineage over 1 of the wisps but assuming atlas is correct seems fine

[cobalt blade]

ye its been slow lately

[lyric field]

good to hear it's not just me then, but yeah reguarly takes 5-10sec to load pages

[strange moon]

i wasnt sure which to do but the 50c to test if i can even clear this (or if my pc explodes) seems to much. stratagy for it is run open every breach kill all the monsters or one breach at a time clearing edges?

[split palm]

:) basically done

now it's just braindamage

[zealous flax]

The way you find funest

[hearty swan]

Guys, do you think volatile orbs will go core?

[cobalt blade]

you kill boss first and then clear the map excluding breaches for altars

[limpid prairie]

yes (copium)

[cobalt blade]

click quant altars if you can(that dont brick your build) and then s tart doing breaches

and you technically want to open multiple breaches at once for beyond

but if you cant clear well enough its okay to do 1 at a time

[strange moon]

oh alters i dont quite know how they work

[cobalt blade]

if you kill boss you only get player and eldritch monster altars

so you have way better odds at quant basically

[tranquil umbra]

I think the only thing that won't go core will be the coins

[magic pebble]

anyone can recommend a good minion pact blade vortex build guys?

[normal hedge]

same

[tranquil umbra]

there's like 5

[magic pebble]

is it expensive to setup?

idk where to find the actual good ones

[strange moon]

k so kill boss find all alters clear breach (imma do one by one so pc does blow up) then get divs?

[twin arch]

@spice pecan ok so apparently people do take multiple trips to grab all the scarabs

But if thats the case

How the fuck do you do that in a minute 30

[normal hedge]

skip all boxes but scarab one

[twin arch]

Yea i already do that

[cobalt blade]

yuh

[normal hedge]

click faster

[dim turtle]

faster build duh

[rough field]

Full mirage strongbox?

[twin arch]

Ya i think my build is slow

[rough field]

[twin arch]

Ya

Full mirage map

Run str8 to the mirage

Grab all the scarab boxes only

Dip out

[rancid seal]

guys i have bug

when i have RF and then i cast vaal rf

instead to take 60% hp

takes 90%

why is that

8500 hp make me 850

[limpid prairie]

supported by something?

[rancid seal]

nothing but have rf on

[limpid prairie]

extra levels on the gem

[rancid seal]

the 2 rfs

[cobalt blade]

did you not have ES

[rancid seal]

i do

3300 es

but i talk about the hp

[cobalt blade]

link your pob again

[normal hedge]

extra levels are still 60% iirc

[rancid seal]

https://pobb.in/MwgyE8xfuopZ

[untold umbra]

coc

[split palm]

new glove :)

[rancid seal]

yes please 😳

[split palm]

blanching surely will hit 3 first try

[normal hedge]

was the fire mod useless

[split palm]

it did :)

[cobalt blade]

oh i see where your getting confused

[split palm]

yes

[normal hedge]

i assume it does almost nothing for you

[twin arch]

Blanching for 3

[split palm]

because I cannot ignite shit

[twin arch]

Smh

Blanch for 4

[split palm]

before it dies

[cobalt blade]

VRF sacrifices 60% of your total life but your still degenning from regular RF

[twin arch]

I would

[normal hedge]

i see

[cobalt blade]

for 90% of your life per second

[split palm]

very nicely divined too

[strange moon]

yeah so couldnt even make it to the boss room

[rancid seal]

that is not it i sit at 8500 hp when i degen from rf

[cobalt blade]

rip lol

[twin arch]

Thats a shit armor roll

Divine it

[rancid seal]

but when i click vaal rf gets 850 hp and then rise

that is 90%

[strange moon]

i kinda mentioned i didnt think i could clear it multiple times