1┃general

[lavish fiber]

Like fucking noobs do better. Does not know the campaign...rmt's currency to get his first character boosted...misses out on picking quest items...does not mention that he does not have lab areas untill the end of the campaign...dies in almost all the areas...then complains about the run in the end

[upper wave]

anyone knows if and how often pilfering rings are on sale?

[split palm]

never

[dense rock]

aint that the typical experience boosting newbs?

[split palm]

again, who cares?

[lavish fiber]

most newbs are ok....this is typical of idiots

[split palm]

the essence stares at me... Spark glove...

[dense rock]

"i chose to boost new players and they are new players, this fucking sucks"

[upper wave]

can we get some statistics on the "new players rmt" or you guys are just inventing things?

[split palm]

"I got paid currency to do whatever I was supposed to do"

[woeful yacht]

How do u kno they rmted

[split palm]

oh the misery

[split palm]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

usually

[dense rock]

new player with more than 10c? RMT
Veteran player with more currency than me? RMT

[woeful yacht]

this is either a generational crashout, or rlly cncr

u gotta have more faith.

[lavish fiber]

end of the league new character...no lab areas...and has currency to pay for campaign carry = most likely rmt

[dense rock]

or just friend of someone who has allready played the league. I know i have dumbed 400divs on a friend who has cleared campaign once or twice before that

[lavish fiber]

or he just rmt'd

[dense rock]

kinda interesting experiment on seeing what he comes up with practically unlimited funds 😄

you are highly overestimating the skill level of average player

[upper wave]

I find it really incredible how wherever you go, the general vibe you get from average poe playes is "boo hoo, this streamer is so lucky, I would never get that lucky" while at the same time they have absolutely 0 clue about 99% of the mechanics in the game. They run white maps, don't use scarabs, take 45 mins to clear a map etc

So they are always dirt poor but all their efforts go to crying and whining instead of actually doing something to change it

This is my first league and POE is my first ARPG and I made over 2 mirrors this league by crafting and farming

[scarlet horizon]

Guys any idea on how to get gold early game act 8?

[upper wave]

And I know maybe 1% of what there is in the game

[dense rock]

ill just leave this here...% of total players via steam... (i know its a free game 95% of the players drop before act2)

[upper wave]

holy shit

[forest flower]

i mean, i don't know much about the game either and i got to endgame farming nightmare maps, but i'd attribute it more to my build being playable with mostly uniques, which defintiely helps with cost

[upper wave]

there are countless builds that can do endgame content

[forest flower]

like i play elementalist golemancer

[dense rock]

...

[forest flower]

so my cost is mainly going to be coming from golem jewels

which i need a lot of

[upper wave]

so basically I am the elite top 1% player

that's so crazy to me

XD

[dense rock]

You are elite top 1.1%

[forest flower]

atm i'm trying bow builds and it feels like

[dense rock]

the 1% makes 100 - 1000x the currency you do

[forest flower]

bow builds are excellent at mapping but fall off a bit for bossing, i can't get them to work unless i get myself something crazy like a mirror bow

[upper wave]

it's still so hard to believe considering I picked this game up 2-3 months ago

[split palm]

you know

I have a friend that never played poe before

and a few leagues ago I had someone from tft do a campaign carry

for him

was it rmt?

[forest flower]

but i also have a vet friend guiding me through things i should and shouldn't be doing

so i'm confident that next league i'll be able to do start to end by myself without help

[split palm]

also, 50% of players (at least on steam) didn't even finish Act 1 midway

[forest flower]

probably gave up too early lol

[split palm]

even less have actually finished it

[lavish fiber]

your an idiot

[upper wave]

professional ragebaiter

[split palm]

does that invalidate my point, or did it hurt your feelings so bad, you had nothing else to say?

[drowsy eagle]

your leveling service was bad, I would like to see the manager

[forest flower]

@upper wave btw since you only just started the game and got really far, what kind of thing would you say is the most important thing for a new player to know

[dense rock]

It doesnt matter what you do, as long as you can do it efficiently while still having fun

[split palm]

also wtf, just 2.2% did HOG

[lavish fiber]

knowing this will not make you smarter,,,you will still be an idiot

[dense rock]

I have over 3k hours and i have never cleared it

[forest flower]

would you say a big part of it is "if you don't know, do research"

[split palm]

gonna do HOG service on tft...

[upper wave]

probably the most important thing for me was learning what stats are relevant on your character and spending time in path of building

second one would probably be basic crafting

[upper wave]

but yeah, that is exactly it

every question I had, I found an answer on google/youtube

[forest flower]

my crafting knowledge is sort of capped at essences and benching lol

[split palm]

you will not believe me, but all kind of matter

depending on the build

[upper wave]

that's exactly what I said though xD

[forest flower]

like during levelling, if you're lacking essences, essence slam for what you need + get T1 defence like life/ES etc.

cos i think once i get to maps i'm okay

[split palm]

huh

[forest flower]

but for early game i don't really know what to do

[split palm]

T1 defence early game is not possible

or you mean in maps?

[forest flower]

yeah for maps

like once you get to T14 or something

slam essences until you get T1 defence

[split palm]

surely someone will buy it, right?

[upper wave]

t1 defences are not THAT important, it's way more important to have multiple layers of defense

[split palm]

just have block

and armour

[forest flower]

and i only just last league learnt about

[split palm]

svalinn and mb is literally all you need to be tanky

[forest flower]

for spell mitigation, either spell block or spell suppression

[upper wave]

well you still need to deal with ailments then

[forest flower]

suppression needs to be capped

[split palm]

I literally have no defences on gear

beside the base rolls

[ruby geyser]

You can get ailment immunity pretty easily too

[forest flower]

shock immunity on a shield user is from tempest shield

freeze immunity from major god

ignite i usually get from MB + flask

[dense rock]

purity of elements goes BRRRR

😄

[split palm]

freeze immunity kek

[forest flower]

this kind of stuff is still really crazy to me atm

i just got done watching a video on how to recombinate for armour stacking smite

[split palm]

it's the easiest thing ever tho

no recomb needed at all

[forest flower]

so i'm farming currency to give it a go

[split palm]

frac minion, spam faceted fossils

after that eldritch chaos till you win

the worst part was eldritch implcits

T2/T2

[upper wave]

I'm currently recombinating a pdps staff and it's going SO BAD

[split palm]

spent over 100d on them

[forest flower]

but i feel that the best guides are those on youtube where it's a 20-30 minute step by step video

[split palm]

someone buy my spark gloves pls

I need them gone

[forest flower]

and the youtuber tells you exactly what they're thinking and how things work

[dense rock]

would buy them if they just didnt have that damn stun/block recovery...

ruins the entire item

[ruby geyser]

I have shock avoidance roll on a flask with stormshroud that gives 110% to all ailments, 100% spell suppression, capped resist 90% lightning resist with Foulborn Coil that converts 50% physical and chaos to lightning

[split palm]

it's ES hybrid at least

also I could lock suffix, reforge speed

[onyx adder]

those are solid but i thought spark wanted insanity over horror on gloves

[forest flower]

when i found out about the phys taken as X element mehanic i was mindblown

[split palm]

but it also could fill

[upper wave]

it's fine

[split palm]

base crit better

[ruby geyser]

It's kind of a must for evasion builds tbh

[split palm]

especially with elevated

[forest flower]

i really like how builds come together really nicely

[split palm]

I could triple elevate, but that is an aids 1 in 2 brick

and after that a 1 in 2 to hit the right elevate

[forest flower]

like font of thunder + purity of lightning, take everything as lightning, then watcher's eye + sublime vision

[split palm]

wait, no

[forest flower]

it's so elegant

[split palm]

1 in 2 in 4

since it can elevate elevated

so 1 in 8

worst thing ever

spent like 6 doms elevating already elevated affix

[dense rock]

my evasion build just converts it all to armor and blocks with his teeth 😄

[ruby geyser]

Yeah but you can overdo mitigating everything to 1 element. I've got physical taken as fire/cold on gear because I'm already mitigating all the physical and chaos towards lightning

[forest flower]

oh?

[split palm]

coil?

I need to mist my ring to do coil proper

[forest flower]

i was following someone's build for pconc

[split palm]

otherwise I lose too much dps

[forest flower]

i hope to one day make a build from scratch without any poe.ninja references lel

[dense rock]

it this a situtation of "i lose too much dps" where too much dps = my dps drops from 500 uber bosses/sec to 490 uber bosses/sec?

[ruby geyser]

Yeah I have a foulborn coil converts 50% physical and chaos damage as lighting with 90% cap lightning resist. It also has projectile and less cold damage taken implicits

And of course running petrified blood. Even then there's the occasional 1 shot that happens with these builds but for the most part, quite the tanky Pathfinder

I found speed mitigates those one shots to be totally honest. Running permanent onsaught on top of all those layers and the only thing that ever really gets me is if I don't dash away from an exploding box fast enough

[forest flower]

i feel that awareness also is a factor

usually if i see a huge pack behind a door i'm thinking if i get overwhelmed where should i retreat to

[split palm]

26%

I would need a good misted ring

[ruby geyser]

Yeah you can run onsaught or adrenaline/high movement speed and animation and just pay attention to the projectiles. Easy to dodge most things when you're fast enough. The evasion and defense layers I think of those as a backup in case I'm playing dumb and take the hits

[split palm]

and even with that

I lose 10%

with a triple positive helical + coil
At least it's getting fire pen cap

[dim turtle]

do u not just evaporate everything with that dps

[split palm]

and without

[split palm]

number bigger = better

[ruby geyser]

Dps IS defence too

[forest flower]

kill them before they kill you lel

[nova minnow]

dats alot of resists

[forest flower]

i wanna try that oneshot gladiator retaliation build

it's so satisfying

[limpid prairie]

its never enough DPS cause you have to face the blight bosses

[tawdry olive]

Can never have enough
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/More_is_Never_Enough

[dim turtle]

me personally if i had enough ehp and dps i'd just start putting meme shit into my build

[forest flower]

cast when stunned heHEE

[split palm]

Are you 12 by any chance?

[split palm]

yeah, fire res = regen and fire pen

everything else is a side-effect

[lavish fiber]

why 12?

you trying to make an invalid point again?

[forest flower]

are we not normal-functioning adults here

[dim turtle]

coughing baby vs coughing baby

[tawdry olive]

I go out of my way to pay more for shiny jewels so sometimes I wonder

[split palm]

I mean that is valid lmao

[tawdry olive]

Ggg please gif shiny stacking item or ascendancy

[dim turtle]

me paying that extra 1d for FF

[ruby geyser]

Buddy just work on radical acceptance and don't let small things bother you so much

[tacit crow]

hello

[split maple]

heya kafka

[tacit crow]

thats me hello

[hushed blaze]

...i'm stuck here...

[forest flower]

YOU'RE A BOTTTTT

[hushed blaze]

🤖

[tacit crow]

clear cookie reload page

[hushed blaze]

funny (?) enough the trade site part works

it's everything else that doesn't

[native abyss]

they are fired

[halcyon flicker]

Cloudflare will never not be garbage

I had it for a while for my community but I'll take a DDoS every now and then over constant problems lol

Fun fact we implemented cloudflare and the next day they had issues worldwide and broke half the internet. That was my first impression of it lol

[hushed blaze]

depends on the level of ddos, but cloudflare is really like the worst solution that works most of the time

[crisp plinth]

so you fucked it up for everyone

smh

[halcyon flicker]

My main problem with cloudflare is that purging the cache just did not want to work. Not through the website, the api, nothing worked

[wispy oyster]

That was a one off case tho

[halcyon flicker]

Even when I purged /

Still cached it and my launcher is reliant on updates over the web so yeah that was fun

[wispy oyster]

TTL is a pain if not set properly

[halcyon flicker]

We got ddossed because of cloudflare because hundreds of users were constantly downloading updates which failed the crc check

[wispy oyster]

Sounds like you should had the files behind a cdn

Or even s3 would work

[low lava]

Hey, they clearly warming up 😂

[wispy oyster]

67

The mappers are teenagers

[halcyon flicker]

It wasn't just that, telling to not cache was still the main problem. It cached php pages and since it has an account system, people would log in just to be redirected to a static page where the content wasnt available. Never been more frustrated with a solution in my life lol

[wispy oyster]

You could have setup rules to avoid caching dynamic pages

[halcyon flicker]

That's exactly what I did. But even with the entire cache purged, it still cached. This was a day before the global outage, maybe it had something to do with it idk

Like the only content that was served properly were newly created files, everything else just kept being outdated

[dense rock]

just remake everything every day so everything is newly created

[halcyon flicker]

The way our update system worked is basically there is a virtual file system table that has filename, size, offset, crc32 and such. We host a table like that on the server as well, and if the checksum mismatches it will automatically download the latest revision of the file, and retried if it failed 😛

[dense rock]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ArenaLiveChat-arena-south-by-southwest-arenaim-A7TNgi6RfeyVT6S3J5

[native abyss]

im rich wtf

[dense rock]

why was it that expensive? 😄

[azure meteor]

Only if the server don't eject you. :|

(can't stay connected for the last 10 min)

[native abyss]

it was lvl 21

[halcyon flicker]

so what happened is it would just continue to retry downloading that file because at the time I figured why even have a max retry count, if it cant reach the server then it must be a network issue lol

[silk prairie]

same

[tawdry olive]

I saw your Reddit post

[halcyon flicker]

i have since revised how the update mechanism work, and honestly it's probably the thing I'm most proud of out of all my projects lol

like you could drag drop this into a AAA game and release it no problemo

[dense rock]

Aint AAA just vibecoded piece of shit that barely works these days? Customers can alpha test on final release

[split palm]

maven is scamming me again

[halcyon flicker]

they are launchers that launch launchers that launch the 'Franchise.exe' and then in the main menu you can select which of the 14 titles you want to play

[frigid wedge]

mrow

[split palm]

hi sans

meow

[tawdry olive]

Didn’t you just drop woke enlighten the other day

[split palm]

does not matter

[tawdry olive]

More is never enough

[halcyon flicker]

woke enlighten

does that make your characters hair blue or something

[dense rock]

that or a nose ring stolen from a bull

[gritty epoch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1suxbzq/data_harvest_yellow_plots_significantly_lower/

[nova pivot]

Anyone know if 9800x3d has better performance with vulkan or dx12?

[split palm]

test it

@opal ingot

uh

don't you count harvest plots?

[opal ingot]

test deez

[opal ingot]

nope

dont have motivation to do the test sadly

[tawdry olive]

immediately after socketing the gem, your character starts espousing the great values of virtue gems

you start to revere Malachai as a visionary, and Doryani before him, quoting from them Verbatim

you go to the Kingsmarch townsquare shouting about the importance of the Atlas

[opal ingot]

lol

[tawdry olive]

one of your mappers says "Exile! Timmy just died in that 8 mod 100% nightmare map you left in there the other day"

[opal ingot]

seems like there might be a problem with the reduced nodes

[halcyon flicker]

I'd say vulkan is better performance. too bad i cant use it

saw someone on reddit claiming the other day switching from win11 to linux almost doubled their performance lol

[low lava]

i wish i didnt have other games i want to play. Then i would be on linux too XD

[halcyon flicker]

hopefully the steam machine and deck will continue to put pressure on developers

[tawdry olive]

ive used linux distros for various things before, its fine, im just a creature of habit. I suspect most people would be fine with linux too given they mostly just use the web browser anyway

[low lava]

Yea

i just have too many GPU problems on linux.
Since i use nvidia, and just have bad luck

[halcyon flicker]

it also just came a long way. I was using it when Mandrake was still a thing and it just improved all across the board

[opal ingot]

you know, it might be fun to collect the data

since im running 36 maps per hour

[halcyon flicker]

Oh yeah nvidia gets shafted on linux, because of nvidia

[opal ingot]

thats 72 harvests per hour

[halcyon flicker]

meanwhile the AMD drivers on linux work better than the windows ones haha

[low lava]

Yeeah, and amd is good.
Just not for the work i do once in a while when doing CAD stuff.

[halcyon flicker]

But it balances out because when you play this game AMD gets shafted once more

still FSR1

[low lava]

XD

[halcyon flicker]

still tells me to downgrade to a year old driver

otherwise no vulkan

[low lava]

Yeah, i will just stay on windows 11, ltsc for now

[halcyon flicker]

You mean 10 I suppose?

[low lava]

nope, 11

[halcyon flicker]

ltsc is literally for long term support lmao

interesting that they have it for w11 already

i guess its about to get discontinued 😛

[low lava]

Im just happy with the no unnecessary shit

[halcyon flicker]

i run win11 on a small server i have here, but completely debloated

main pc is still on 10 and probably will be for a while

[low lava]

Yeah, i debloat as well.
But for some reason, this version of 11.
Just feels faster for me.

i normally have ram issues too, with poe open.
0 issues now

[ruby geyser]

Usually it would be bots that immediately buy items out of the premium tabs the second they post I assume right? And usually when this happens I under sold it I assume

[low lava]

If instant sold = low price or good deal XD

[halcyon flicker]

but it could also happen if you are selling common items that everyone needs like maps

[ruby geyser]

It's weird because there was no other jewel on trade similar. Was a corrupted blood cannot be inflicted implicit jewel I just posted for 40 chaos cause I couldn't find a good price. Pretty sure I may have sold myself short again ugh

[halcyon flicker]

but 8 ninjas in your hideout at the same time is usually not a good sign 😛

[low lava]

unique jewel ?

prob underpriced then XD

[ruby geyser]

Hahaha yeah that's happened before too. Nah it was a rare

[halcyon flicker]

not sure what its like this league but in the past the implicit alone was a div

people tend to use it for the sirus fight

[ruby geyser]

Yeah I def keep that divination set for the corrupted blood implicits cause some of them still sell for multi divs

Was a 3 stat. 11% increased melee damage, 15% increased critical chance with two handed melee, and totems gain +7% to all elemental resist with the corrupted implicit

Probably just tripping. Gotta be more careful 😉

[halcyon flicker]

2 good stats and the implicit yeah not bad

nothing too crazy good but a couple divs maybe

[ruby geyser]

Ahh no biggie lesson learned

[vocal tinsel]

how do we report scam bots in this server answered my own question

is it the dm for discord help app?

[frigid wedge]

hi shika

[split palm]

meow

surely 3 vermillions or more

[vocal tinsel]

gl. ive had some really good enmity luck from those

only done around 10 but got 2 so far

[frigid wedge]

mrrrrp

I'm gonna start grinding! And lock in! I'm locked in! I'm locking the fuck in! AND...
I took a nap...
I fell asleep.

how tf do i motivate myself to make currency

i cant be fuckin bothered

[split palm]

mhm

didn't you need a new helmet sans

[frigid wedge]

i need a new everything

both the elementalist and vls need new rares

[vocal tinsel]

dont motivate yourself to farm something you enjoy and the currency comes as a side obj

[frigid wedge]

yeah but see

i do that

and in 4h i have like no extra

xD

[opal ingot]

fuck

I FORGOT RIDAN

[vocal tinsel]

what do you normally farm?

[split palm]

well

I won

in 8

[vocal tinsel]

solid like 50ish d so far

[split palm]

that's almost full invest covered

[vocal tinsel]

probably get like atleast 2 more in the other 32

[split palm]

all the astros is like

at minimum

[vocal tinsel]

astrolabes from the rest should cover it all

[split palm]

100c each run

so 4kc

[frigid wedge]

just whatever appeals tbh

[vocal tinsel]

even templars where 150 yesterday they shot up

[split palm]

meaning 12ish div

[frigid wedge]

ill try some more operative box maps ig

idrk if im meant to bother with the norm boxes

they seem pointless compared to just doing mirage and leaving

[wheat sinew]

broooo why do all mappers stop if 1 deviced gets abducted

[vocal tinsel]

diviners are also nice to open

can get some nice cards sometimes

[frigid wedge]

eh

not often enough to full clear to look for em

i just want the scarabs

[vocal tinsel]

i mean you dont have to clear can just run them if you see them

[split palm]

win

[vocal tinsel]

i was getting a decent amount of random div drops from basic strongboxes too

[ruby geyser]

Scrying the map properly and the diviners pay off really well, especially duplicate altars. You can easily get a few divs out the diviners boxes per map for sure

Sorry didn't mean to respond to that

[frigid wedge]

my build has so much clear that with 3 breaches open i kill the vruun in the first one while im clearing the third

i don't choose whether i clear or not

[split palm]

yikes

[vocal tinsel]

yeah just meaning you dont have to full clear searching for them lol

juiced breach should be giving you decent currency if your build is that strong

[frigid wedge]

i mean it seemed to give some yeah

idk

12 fps isnt the most fun

xD

[vocal tinsel]

you have sound effects turned off?

[wheat sinew]

[vocal tinsel]

that gave me a lot of fps during breach

[ruby geyser]

Like mentioned earlier sets are worth trading in like the corrupted implicit jewels you can flip for multiple divs quick

[frigid wedge]

maybe i try the version of juiced breach that snoo was doing with the dextral scarab

[vocal tinsel]

that much clear too you can always do diviner delirium for stacked decks

easy 150-175 decks a run in like 2m

[frigid wedge]

i can try but the issue is more that as long as mobs are rendered anywhere near each other all of them will explode

[compact bronze]

what does MF mean in builds

[vocal tinsel]

sound effects are rendered by cpu so clearing that much with explode is probably tanking fps

[frigid wedge]

magic find

[compact bronze]

what does that mean?

[frigid wedge]

u put rarity on all ur gear

[ruby geyser]

Dude stacked deck runs in City/ ritual atlas you can pull like 90 stacked decks per map

[frigid wedge]

in standard you put quant on all ur gear

[compact bronze]

hmm okay

[vocal tinsel]

you should be at close to 150 with proper setup on most maps

[frigid wedge]

i feel like if im clicking that often id rather farm 8 mods or scarabs tho

i swear 1 8 mod is like 10c rn

[ruby geyser]

Yeah definitely don't chisel as much as I should kind of tend to speed run the cheap methods. Like I stopped buying containment scarabs cause it feels like just speed blasting the cheap setup pays off more by the hour instead of wasting buying the containment scarabs. Only ever run them on occasion when they drop through mirage maps but it just feels like speed with those strats pay off more. I can see how investing in breach is worth it but my damn screen cannot handle juiced breaches it's such a bummer

[vocal tinsel]

like I said to sans, try it with sound effects disabled in config files

[split palm]

anotha one

[vocal tinsel]

if you havent already

[frigid wedge]

i mean i guess, i hate having no sounds tho

[vocal tinsel]

I also was tanking fps in breach and disabling sound effects helped a lot so you dont have the death sounds

[frigid wedge]

pisses me off

[split palm]

not having sound sucks

[cobalt blade]

its so much less fun to play w/o sounds

[split palm]

hi naca

'I need the tink

[cobalt blade]

hiii :3

[split palm]

(it's 5c)

[frigid wedge]

not having sound sucks even more when its disabling my shatter

[ruby geyser]

Not wrong though I've read that shutting sound drastically improves frame rates

[vocal tinsel]

you still have some sounds just not the infinite repeating death sounds

[frigid wedge]

EVERYTHING shatters

[split palm]

swap to chat room

like 12843

[frigid wedge]

turning off my shatter is like cutting off my arms

[frigid wedge]

gm naca

[cobalt blade]

meow

[split palm]

and do /clear everysooften

[frigid wedge]

what

[limpid prairie]

so true even if it bugs out when you do breach is worth it

[vocal tinsel]

you still get tinks without sound effects

[split palm]

you

didn't know?

[cobalt blade]

your game keeps chat loaded into memory constantly

[split palm]

chat messages lags the game

so you have to clear them everysooften

[cobalt blade]

a less active global reduces lag marginally

[split palm]

and swapping to some dead chat room is good

[frigid wedge]

interesting

[cobalt blade]

also truth love shatter sounds explode sounds etc

[split palm]

it'S especially important in poo 2

[limpid prairie]

whats the best explodey effect? we need a tier list

[cobalt blade]

imo chaos explode

The pop is too good

[frigid wedge]

shatter and chaos and everything else is secondary

[limpid prairie]

mood black hole noises chef kiss

[frigid wedge]

chaos has too much bass for me to say its my favourite

shatter is the reason i kept playing the game when i started

[ruby geyser]

I wonder wtf a mirror sounds like when it smacks the ground lol

[frigid wedge]

same as a div

[split palm]

tink

[cobalt blade]

tink

[limpid prairie]

tink

[ruby geyser]

Tink is a really nice sound good to know that

[split palm]

@frigid wedge poo2 shatter is objectively way better

[cobalt blade]

Tho there is also a shaper mirror readout you can swap the sound too

[vocal tinsel]

you can also add a special sound for it if you want

[frigid wedge]

no thanks

[ruby geyser]

Y'all use filterblade right? I have mine set Uber strict but heavily neglect fine tuning it

[cobalt blade]

Yeh

[split palm]

you should

fine tune it

[vocal tinsel]

im using uber+1 now because I also dont like fine tuning and it reduces the bubblegumming a lot

[ruby geyser]

Oh def there's still shit that drops I absolutely am tired of seeing haha 😂

[frigid wedge]

i change things when i need to, ive added all the scarab tabs personally

like i do every league now

[ruby geyser]

Damn... alright just gonna do this now and stop procrastinating

[frigid wedge]

low tier scarabs dont show up on your map or make sounds so its just extra loot to click if u wanna

and i tend to spend like 20 minutes vendoring out the shit ones

occasionally

[empty cosmos]

Hello anyone tryed the dom blow guardian this league ?

[ruby geyser]

Literally same. It's .. painful

[split palm]

the issue is

[frigid wedge]

ask question, ppl can make suggestions regardless

[split palm]

poo2 is not even 10% as good

[frigid wedge]

how so

[empty cosmos]

i wanted to ask if its good in end game and uber stuff

[ruby geyser]

Just the relentless clicking and all that. I mean could be worse just so lazy

[split palm]

I know you don't value your wrists

now imagine you did

[frigid wedge]

i cant imagine dom blow is gonna feel amazing for Ubers, u gotta hit to spawn ur minions and theres only 1 target

if u can get ur minions up it should b fine

[cobalt blade]

why value your wrists when you could get rly bad rsi

[empty cosmos]

i see got it

[frigid wedge]

i play this game with 1800dpi, i move my hand less than a millimetre and im half way across the screen

[ruby geyser]

One small quality of life thing is switching the space bar as left click in game. Unless youre chatting alot in game it's really convenient

[opal ingot]

oo

now i have to consult my harvest sheet

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/kupo-gossip-anime-give-me-money-gif-9766049

[cobalt blade]

dyo only move your hand or your whole arm

[frigid wedge]

hand

[cobalt blade]

cos former is actually bad for wrist health lol

ic

[frigid wedge]

if my wrist starts bothering me I'll just triple my dpi

[opal ingot]

im getting used to moving with my whole arm

[frigid wedge]

my mouse goes up to 20k

but like

[opal ingot]

looks like blue wins

[frigid wedge]

i just really hate having to pick up my mouse and put it back onto middle of mouse pad

its soo annoying

[opal ingot]

buuuuut

blue might depreciate

[cobalt blade]

I cant get used to it personally so have just accepted im destroying my wrist

[opal ingot]

and i wont sell now sooo

[cobalt blade]

and play at around 3.2k dpi

[opal ingot]

lol

[frigid wedge]

if u think im moving my whole arm with a pad this size

it aint happenin

[cobalt blade]

fair

[opal ingot]

buy a big ass mouse pad

mine is at 450 dpi rn

i have 2 big ass mouse pads

[copper vale]

ancient mouse

just buy a new one lil bro a mouse is not that expensive

[split palm]

why no full table pad

[frigid wedge]

smol desk

[split palm]

I actually have a massive pad, yet never actually move the arm like ever xd

literally wrist only

with 3 monitors

mouse being lifted everysooften xd

6 in 30-something

and I have like

9 more

so in 31

[opal ingot]

wow

[split palm]

pog 65

[frigid wedge]

my keyboard like 7 years old

[opal ingot]

so far not looking good

[cobalt blade]

imo cloth or plastic over glass

[split palm]

I hate logitech

mice die in half a year all the time

[heady cliff]

modern mouse sensors are amazing

[cobalt blade]

even just a piece of wood is better than glass

[split palm]

as much as I don't want to admit

but razer makes very good keyboards and mice

[heady cliff]

thought that too

[split palm]

but never buy gaming headphones for the love of god

like get something like DT770s, which are super cheap for what they are

[halcyon flicker]

Yeah I've been using my keyboard and mouse for years now with no issues

[heady cliff]

you can get chinese basic mouse with 2-3 extra buttons and top tier sensor for $30

overpaying for razer...

[halcyon flicker]

But before that I had to RMA my Corsair mechanical keyboard and Logitech g502 twice because they all kept having issues

That mouse sucks I don't know why its praised so much

[split palm]

I'd rather overpay and not wait 4 weeks for it to ship

plus it's whatever

[halcyon flicker]

After 6 months you're gonna get accidental double clicks

[frigid wedge]

imma be real im more concerned that my mother is going to actively prevent me from bringing pc when i to to uni so that i cant play games

like

[bright nebula]

[Question] Does Taste of Hate 30% Fire & Lightning to Cold interaction with PoF Sublime Vision?

[frigid wedge]

i get that you want me to socialise

this is how you make me hate everyone and never speak to them

[heady cliff]

you already have global 1 for that

[split palm]

true

[frigid wedge]

i just

[split palm]

I hate people too

[frigid wedge]

like if she doesnt let me convince her to let me bring it im literally just gonna buy a laptop and use geforce or smth

she can fuck off

xD

[split palm]

just

remote access your pc

[frigid wedge]

wat

[heady cliff]

*your turned off pc

[halcyon flicker]

Or hear me out, just settle your shit before you launch poe

[frigid wedge]

hm?

[halcyon flicker]

It's possible to do both

[split palm]

sans

[halcyon flicker]

Need to find a healthy balance

[split palm]

buy a new pc case

and fill it with bricks

[frigid wedge]

hahaha

no

[bright nebula]

Thanks

[frigid wedge]

ill see if theres a way i can convince her

[halcyon flicker]

I did the thing where I restricted online access for myself for a week last year

[frigid wedge]

ill probably end up having to send proof that i did shit with ppl weekly or some bullshit

[halcyon flicker]

Suddenly felt like the days were twice as long lol

[split palm]

just say you need it for the assignments

not having a pc in university is the worst thing ever

[ruby geyser]

I haven't seen a mouse like that since the early 2000s haha

[lucid gale]

I've got a time machine, it's called

[halcyon flicker]

I have the same mouse it's great

[frigid wedge]

its a razer basilisk v2

theres a v3 now iirc

[ruby geyser]

Nah I bet it looks really cool

[frigid wedge]

but its not that old

new model is visually identical

[halcyon flicker]

Before that I went through 3 Logitech mx518 and then they stopped making em and the successors were just bad

[ruby geyser]

Unfortunately, I'm gaming an a 2025 iMac and GeForce. The scroll is touch sensitive on wireless mouse

[frigid wedge]

they released it in uh

2020

the one I have

[halcyon flicker]

Using a black widow V3 as well

All wireless but I never used the functionality lol

[split palm]

I hate rgb on mice/keyboards

[frigid wedge]

yeah icl, wireless shit pisses me off

[split palm]

literally have my keyboard backlighting set to white

[frigid wedge]

its turned off on my mouse

[crisp plinth]

One day they'll make fat mice again and I'll be ready

[frigid wedge]

iirc

[frigid wedge]

isnt the entire issue that they make wrist pain even worse bc heavy

as a sidenote

isnt that all Logitech mice

[split palm]

I have those two

[opal ingot]

nooo

dont impede science

how to boost wifi

[cobalt blade]

probably

[cobalt blade]

Personally cant use light mice tho feels like im gonna just toss it off the table

[halcyon flicker]

This was the goat

[crisp plinth]

Never heard that heavier mice are an issue. Thought it's mostly not using your elbows and only using your wrist on small pads

[split palm]

I prefer light mice

[halcyon flicker]

Isn't that a g502

[split palm]

heavy mice are way better for CAD tho

[frigid wedge]

yes

[crisp plinth]

This but even wider and wireless please

[dry lake]

logitech g600, best mouse forever

[halcyon flicker]

G502s kept breaking on me

The switches are not ideal

[split palm]

wtf quin killed all ubers

[cobalt blade]

my understanding is the extra force required to move em increases fatigue in ur wrists /arm when gaming for hours

[split palm]

pog

[cobalt blade]

but idk exactly how impactful it is

[ruby geyser]

Using this 💀

[crisp plinth]

Idk man I think 40g more isn't an issue

[frigid wedge]

this is basically just the razer naga without a numpad

[crisp plinth]

Yeah and no software required

[halcyon flicker]

Yea that's marketing bs. The weights that come with mice I never used either

[frigid wedge]

theres a Naga that looks like this

[cobalt blade]

yeah its a good mouse excluding the switches

I need to replace mine with proper ones at some point

[crisp plinth]

Apparently you need software to keep razer LEDs off etc and I'd rather not deal with that seems nice otherwise

[halcyon flicker]

I recently got myself an electric air duster and it's been the best investment I've made in a while lol

Blows everything sparkling clean in seconds

[split palm]

yeah, it sometimes is fucky like that

[opal ingot]

wow

!giverep necro17

[frigid wedge]

honestly the software isnt the worst, it means u can setup autoclickers and stuff p easily

[halcyon flicker]

Compressed air is complete trash in Europe due to paranoid explosion safety hazard concerns lol

[cobalt blade]

you can also run tracert/traceroute to the ip of poe's servers which you can pull from the log file and figure out id theres a specific one in the "chain" fucking u over

[split palm]

40 runs

1 of the rings is 65

[cobalt blade]

but also requires more of a network understanding to actually use that lol

[drowsy eagle]

if you fail those then you should not even be able to log in to the game

[cobalt blade]

time for the volatile gamba right

[split palm]

143d from 60d + bunch of astros

[halcyon flicker]

It's not about failing it, it's response times being consistent

[split palm]

no

[cobalt blade]

):

fair

[frigid wedge]

apparently the naga is a really well rated mouse for mmos

[cobalt blade]

its marketed as an mmo mouse because of the entire numpad on the side

[split palm]

I should sell ngl

[cobalt blade]

And its rly nice having an extra 9 buttons on an mmo

[split palm]

there is one game

that needs even more than that

[cobalt blade]

lmao

[split palm]

because the amount of keybinds the game has

is fucking diabolical

[halcyon flicker]

Ngl I dislike many buttons on mice. I don't need it to look like a spaceship. Especially when buttons are on the side I tend to accidentally press em when I relax

[split palm]

and you have to actively use them

and it is NOT an mmo

[frigid wedge]

ah right

[crisp plinth]

Yeah I'd love the nega shape with less thumb buttons but I've only seen redragon and those seem super low qual

[split palm]

2 buttons on the side more than enough

(I have a numpad on my keyboard)

[frigid wedge]

theres 2 versions of the naga, 1 with thumb buttons 1 with only the mouse 4 and mouse 5

[cobalt blade]

mmo mice feel too weird to me need a thumb rest

[split palm]

MB4+5 is peak

any more is delusional

[cobalt blade]

and it doesnt seem like theres anywhere comfortable to rest ur thumb on those

[frigid wedge]

oh apparently theres like

a panel u can add to naga

[cobalt blade]

incredible

[split palm]

the fuck is that delusion

also I hate the dpi button on the top

[ruby geyser]

Ts crazy

[split palm]

it being by the sensor is peak

alklfg

[cobalt blade]

[frigid wedge]

you can rebind it

[split palm]

I kno, but the location sucks

[frigid wedge]

my mouse has a bunch of binds

[frigid wedge]

why tho

[frigid wedge]

?

[split palm]

I don't like it

[frigid wedge]

ok but like

[split palm]

shrimple as that

[frigid wedge]

just dont use it

xD

its actually remarkably hard to press down on their sensitivity buttons by accident

they add a lot more resistance to the sensitivity stage buttons that the other buttons on the mouse

[native abyss]

wtf is this

its on my thing

oh

[frigid wedge]

isnt it to do with mouse accel

[split palm]

very handy

[frigid wedge]

oh its just

[split palm]

basically allows you to have mouse functions akin to alt/ctrl/shift

basically

[frigid wedge]

its like holding control in poe

[split palm]

bind hypershift to caps lock

[frigid wedge]

secondary binds bar

[split palm]

bind scroll to lclick/rclick

win

no more caps lock
no need for any macros to scrollclick

[frigid wedge]

i have an entire profile for my mouse called scarabs rn

xD

it just has a left click macro for clicking them from inv to faustus and then inv to stash

for when held

i dont get how ppl need so many tabs

i have

8

total tabs

0 quads

id enjoy i think 1 quad for recombing or smth and an ess tab

but thats about it

idk how ur filling 12 quads

[split palm]

I have like 100 tabs total with merchants

usually filled with random garbage

that I may need

[frigid wedge]

i have currency, frag, delve, maps, 4 normal tabs and 1 merchant

[nocturne thistle]

I have too many tabs as well. With the merchant change I have a folder of old premium tabs that I don’t use

[frigid wedge]

if i ever get really into beast farming ill buy 2 or 3 merchants

[split palm]

I mainly used them in the past for bulk selling shit

[frigid wedge]

my merchant tab is never full

i have one

[halcyon flicker]

There's some abuse you can do to print

[frigid wedge]

hmm?

[halcyon flicker]

Just pick up every rare on league start and put em up for sale you'll be surprised

[frigid wedge]

yeah no thanks

[halcyon flicker]

Won't work later tho

[frigid wedge]

my atlas takes long enough early

[crisp plinth]

interesting didnt know it had that

[frigid wedge]

rather not

[halcyon flicker]

It is also great if you have a ton of jewels

[split palm]

I have like 10 full tabs

[cobalt blade]

i had to buy a 3rd merchant tab because i kept filling my 2 this league

[frigid wedge]

yeah, i like razer mice just bc theres a ton of hidden binds that keep it looking and feeling p smooth

[main bison]

Hi i want to apologize what i did in global 6666 everyone started to spam bob after i asked nicely what to do with my build and i felt like everyone is againts me it was a overreacting and if someone maybe tell this in global 6666 thanks your time really, 2 hour elft until the mute is over...

[frigid wedge]

i have 11 binds on the top of my mouse and 5 visible buttons plus scroll wheel

[tiny tangle]

Is there a respec all using currency instead of gold for atlas passives/ passive tree?

[split palm]

it all depends how you play

like i have almost half a quad full of 1d listed jewels (old trade)

and occasionally someone stupid comes by and buys a 30c jewel for a div

[crisp plinth]

guess its the naga pro that has it but they dont showcase it, kinda funny

[forest flower]

razer mice? 👀

i use razer viper mini

think it's their lightest one

[split palm]

I use the viper v3 pro, which is a great mouse

had a viper mini before, was also great

the V2 viper had THE BEST fucking charging cable EVER

[forest flower]

i feel like anything above the viper mini i lose a bit of mobility

[split palm]

shit had NO resistance whatsoever

like you did not feel the cable ever

[forest flower]

braided cable, doesn't tangle?

[split palm]

I have no idea how

but it was simply like a wireless mouse

[crisp plinth]

currently using a vxe r1 pro max with a 3d printed finger rest

its alright

[split palm]

the fuck is a glass mouse pad

glass wool?

isn't that shit unhealthy as fuck?

[opal ingot]

60 harvest plots. what the fuck is happening

[forest flower]

huh what's a glass mousepad LOL

the image i get in my head is a frosted glass chopping board

oh, the super slidy kind huh

[crisp plinth]

uh

sounds like the newest weird fad

[split palm]

I prefer my cheap dogshit full desk pad

ngl

[spice pecan]

i just use an old MTG mat

with a hard mousepad stuck to the top of it

those are the people that get carpal tunnel/RSI before 30

[forest flower]

i play with relatively high sensitivity so my wrist barely moves

[frigid wedge]

got an rsi in both thumbs, usually fine tho

[forest flower]

are you trying to crush your mouse or something

wew lad

[spice pecan]

800 dpi master race

[split palm]

your daily update of the spreadsheet

[frigid wedge]

i can still comfortably use mine with 20k

[split palm]

600dpi is just the best

but

I know for a fact

[crisp plinth]

ever since using a trackball at work my hands never hurt

big gains

[fallow cipher]

where do i put the special maps i have a t2 special map and i can't use it in t2 slots

[split palm]

setting it to max and just playing with the multipliers is much better

by FAR

[frigid wedge]

are those the ones with the massive red orb

[spice pecan]

no idea how ppl play fps games with turbo high sensitivity, even quake

can't aim for shit

[split palm]

flicking

[cobalt blade]

dont like how it feels and improperly made ones are bad for tracking

[fallow cipher]

thank you

[split palm]

and microadjusting

[spice pecan]

you dont flick on 20k dpi xd

[forest flower]

you don't

[split palm]

this is rsi 2.0

[spice pecan]

or microadjust

[crisp plinth]

grey for me

[cobalt blade]

tho well made ones are fine

[frigid wedge]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

[real sun]

hey guys
i am trying to get a silver flask with onslaught onm it and i can't find any in trading website

[foggy elm]

the orb

[crisp plinth]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pondering-pondering-my-orb--k01KQ2AGKM68R5TJ8Y07W5HC1EN

[cobalt blade]

every silver flask is onslaught

[tawdry olive]

pretty nice haul from one map, got lucky with the altar mods and mirage

[frigid wedge]

my current rsi would be 5x worse if i used one of these

[split palm]

I used to play d2 pvp with I belive 12k dpi

[forest flower]

9 divs

[tawdry olive]

... wait why the fuck did i pick up the tabula

[forest flower]

NICE

[cobalt blade]

it is the baseline effect

[frigid wedge]

wtf is this

[real sun]

yepp got it thaaanks

[crisp plinth]

it wouldnt as you dont use your wrist

you use a thumb only

[forest flower]

now you're going to do some charity and give me all those nightmare maps

[frigid wedge]

my rsi is in my thumbs

[foggy elm]

damn svallins got a lot cheaper since I bought mine

[tawdry olive]

bloodlines + risk breach, on the 2nd last map of the astrolabe, altar mods had a bit of quant and rarity, mirage had 100% currency wish

dropped 4 raw divs from one breach hand lmao

[crisp plinth]

afaik its still from fucking up your wrist which can manifest in different fingers

theres vertical mice too, got one on the way

[cobalt blade]

ye it can fuck with blood flow? iirc

[frigid wedge]

see, id enjoy breach if the normal ass mobs didn't drop more than the actual breach

[cobalt blade]

rly bad rsi

[tawdry olive]

after experimenting a bit i think the full mirage maps are a bit too expensive, but with bloodlines and risk becoming cheaper its worth using them on 130+ currency (before chisel) maps

[crisp plinth]

pinched nerves i think

[tawdry olive]

on the last maps of the astrolabe

[frigid wedge]

originator or what

[tawdry olive]

yea always originator

need more currency

full mirage originator maps are 4 div

[crisp plinth]

[tawdry olive]

a little too gamba for my taste

[crisp plinth]

i need more clones

[tawdry olive]

wtf

[spice pecan]

bama in 2k26??

[crisp plinth]

the glare change made me do it

[spice pecan]

also can i just leave burial chambers incomplete forever

[frigid wedge]

u can get more max clones than 3? or are these phantasms

[spice pecan]

do i have to do this stupid map

[crisp plinth]

normal bama has no limit

its just the trans gems that have a 3 limit

[frigid wedge]

oh god

normal bama

wtffff

[forest flower]

what build is this?

[crisp plinth]

the classic bama with normal gems

with infused more dura

one click is 2 clones thanks to glare

[karmic gust]

i think it sucks beaeuse he wasnt the only contributor there

e.g it sucks for other contributors, ofc he doesnt owe anything to the actual users but he does to contributors

[split palm]

didn't bama get absolutely fucking nuked

[frigid wedge]

i cant take vertical mice seriously when u hold them like a penis

[split palm]

in keepers

for no reason whatsoever

[crisp plinth]

no it went from insane to still good

people just love to whine

[frigid wedge]

lost 33% dps and had big qol nerf

[frigid wedge]

for bombard

camt remember dps loss for prism

[forest flower]

in simple english please

[crisp plinth]

blink arrow + mirror arrow clone summoner

[frigid wedge]

bama qol got nuked rather than bama dps

[crisp plinth]

poison was basically a bit less qol but still fine

[forest flower]

dyou have a POB? i'd like to take a peek

[karmic gust]

i meaen 5s baseline is still a lot no

when you only have 3 up

[crisp plinth]

nope i just stole pr3vies and used glare + normal gems

[karmic gust]

they just nuked the crit gem

[crisp plinth]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NbBbwPDUrtwYryAElxNIHs0chSiRwF5jDIBhf6fZZow/edit?tab=t.0 the lightning one

[karmic gust]

andyou click duration and thats it right fornormal use

[forest flower]

OOOO

this looks pretty cool

[crisp plinth]

just need to check if the quiver clones use your gloves is worth it with lightning convert gloves

so far it feels kinda like wasting a prefix

[tawdry olive]

trust, now that you have complained here, you will hit, i believe in you

[frigid wedge]

ppl played bama because they wanted semi hands on, ppl were going for 1 minute dura iirc

[karmic gust]

well 1 minute dura is completely useless

[frigid wedge]

having to click basically off cooldown makes that a lot more awkward

[karmic gust]

as the clones dont follow you

so you had to click off cd anyway

[split palm]

just let me slam

I will hit it surely

@opaque sphinx can attest to that

[frigid wedge]

didn't say it was useful, but ppl liked dropping a clone and knowing they could chill for a while for stuff like blight iirc

[split palm]

(i hit a 1 in 44 first try for a joke)

[karmic gust]

arent oshabi gloves good or didnt ppl used that beforee

[frigid wedge]

dura got quartered

[split palm]

just give me a frac and the item to hit

[crisp plinth]

oshabi?

[karmic gust]

yea the wither glovees

[crisp plinth]

oh abhorrent?

yeah those are probably my bossing gloves

[karmic gust]

sure i guess this league only place where thats useful is fortresses and idk if people even farm that

[frigid wedge]

the glove mod for bama is kinda underwhelming iirc

[frigid wedge]

idk, generally cutting dura off on a dura skill that doesnt stack reduction is always gonna upset ppl tho

[crisp plinth]

i thought bleed pops or asenaths might be worth it

but doesnt feel like it is

[karmic gust]

well bleed pops is like poison right if you one shot stuff they do nothing

cant you run the uuh that new support also

for explody

on minions, only place where its useful anyway

[frigid wedge]

did u change to norm bama from this or what did u do

annihilation

?

[karmic gust]

yea that one

[frigid wedge]

still meh

[crisp plinth]

pr3vie uses the ele hit bama i am using normal bama with more dura instead

with glare i get ~20-22 clones out per gem

only issue is i fucked up and thought i could use both gems in the bow

game says no

[frigid wedge]

is that actually better

[crisp plinth]

its more fun

loved oldschool bama

[frigid wedge]

big number sorta fun or what

[crisp plinth]

ye

big screenclutter lotsa arrows

[frigid wedge]

u got any proj behaviour

on there

[surreal mulch]

how is there only like one good brutal restraint+ impossible escape location on the whole tree

[crisp plinth]

just pierce from the quiver

if i could fit in some chain itd probs be cooler

[frigid wedge]

so is ur clear just awful

[wheat sinew]

bama is so fun

[crisp plinth]

not really

its way better clear than roa one

[surreal mulch]

obama?

[crisp plinth]

20 clones offscreening shit

[forest flower]

aight

[crisp plinth]

big craft happened too

[forest flower]

next build i'm making is bama

[karmic gust]

did anyone tried soul ascension with bama or not worth

[wheat sinew]

show bow bow

[crisp plinth]

i kinda assumed it doesnt work

its a glare

[wheat sinew]

ooooh

[frigid wedge]

soul ascension takes a full minute to fully ramp so its probably not worth it

ur better off usin transfusion

[karmic gust]

well its for the max cap

and transfusion on top right

[frigid wedge]

so ur eating ur gloves for uh

5 souls?

[karmic gust]

10

[frigid wedge]

that really doesn't sound worth it, i don't think i trust fusion to even get to 50

[surreal mulch]

pretty sure it works with ongoing effects

maybe even like blood rage or some shit

[karmic gust]

i mean it will, on bosses soul ascension will keepe the stacks up and how transfusion works is it gives souls to minion with lowest souls thats nearby

so as long as soul stacks dont start falling off it will top up

[frigid wedge]

i wanna mess w so many of the new supports but half of them are completely doggy poopoo shit

[karmic gust]

well otheer half is turbo broken

so good enough

[surreal mulch]

excuse me you don't like pyre?

[frigid wedge]

yeah, the broken ones are the boring ones

I wanna mess w the mechanical ones

like foulgrasp and invention

[surreal mulch]

you don't like "summon a frog for zero damage and one wither stack every 1 seconds"

[frigid wedge]

but they suck ass

[drowsy eagle]

I am speed xd

[crisp plinth]

i wonder if just converting to lightning is worth it on gloves instead

[frigid wedge]

didn't like 300 diff ppl try to make that work with impending doom and fail horribly

[karmic gust]

the soul eaeter support would be fun if it actually did what it says it does

bbut it doesnt so rip

[surreal mulch]

idk why you'd even use hexed ground for impeding doom

maybe on like bosses or some shit

[frigid wedge]

have u considered just not using the glove thing on ur quiver and then grabbing those gloves for socket colour based convert

[karmic gust]

well regular cursed ground is best setup for impending this leaegue imo

[frigid wedge]

i can see them in my head

[karmic gust]

but cant imbue hextoad

so rip

[frigid wedge]

wtf is it

its tri smth right

[surreal mulch]

can it creep

[karmic gust]

no, but it allows you to overlap with 0 effort with cascade so you dont have to fuck around with aoe and cast speed for vixens

[frigid wedge]

triad grip

those

[surreal mulch]

oh

[karmic gust]

and imbue is very low opportunity cost vs supportgem

[crisp plinth]

sure id get a prefix on the quiver but lose all my glove mods

so dunno if its worth it

[karmic gust]

which is why you dont use cused ground norally

for it

[frigid wedge]

just get a shako w cursed ground

[karmic gust]

true

[frigid wedge]

iirc they genuinely cost LESS than a support that can't support temp chains

nvm there aren't any

[tawdry olive]

damage maxrolls on a worthless unique

[real sun]

how do u gain gold other then killing mobs?

[opal ingot]

@tranquil sedge what is the lore reason for this

[frigid wedge]

i have a frenzy on kill gluttonous tides

hmm

do i just say fuck it and keep trying to get mana on my deadeye

[frigid wedge]

sage are u at pc

[opal ingot]

yeah

[frigid wedge]

can u check smth 4 me

[tawdry olive]

from past experience whatever comes after "fuck it" usually results in maximum fun (sometimes results in -1000 divs too but)

[opal ingot]

yes

[tawdry olive]

grats

[frigid wedge]

can u send screenshot of my % inc mana vs flat mana pls

[split palm]

sans

why are you using fancy links

[frigid wedge]

shika

[split palm]

xd

[frigid wedge]

bc its fun

[opal ingot]

this?

[frigid wedge]

and bc that message is significantly longer

[frigid wedge]

tyyyy

[opal ingot]

ok ill be expecting 2 mirrors payment soon