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finally
experimented items or currency/shards
all that for 2 tokens and a blue
but also fuck heist
I mostly just play zenith but I wanted to try a crazy explody mapper was fun
truly, a one of a kind 110 quant feared

but if it becomes more expensive cursed profit crafts with it can also go up 
m
I hate feared
I did it for a day it was so poopoo
skill issue
The 2 most consistent money I did this league was harvest and nightmare rush
like most bossing things its high variance do like 100 sets and its okay 
(just dont get fucked on charlathans doing Uber dread witness)
I think breach is bait honestly
clearly means ur due for back to back ones right
like 450 noin ubers
But my league goal was dropping a lock
how the fuck do i looot these maps
no flask
it makes profit just about until you get a big hit then its giga profit
feared has many giga hits
atleast when i tried to run bloodlines breach for a bit before getting annoyed at how bad the fps was since my pc does not like it
didnt get the big hit but i was making profit every map
lol
low budget seems more profitable. middle ground breach is kinda meh its either balls out or low budget
My preference tbh is hive fortress breach for low investment
mini gamba time
blood is okay profit over a large period
The gold tho is crazy xd
2 FFs
i never really dove into hive didnt really care for it
ye its good gold but everything is
its a vibe tbh once you can afk/1button it
toss something on the side to watch and just brain off
awful if you cant do that tho
gonna run one
i leveled 99-100 on deli breach beyond on some low end scarabs and was really surprised on my drops even though i was there for xp
I was doing afk ravaged blighted maps early in the league it got me going
I got both my characters to lvl 100 doing breach it took 2 days
The xp is crazyyy
am i aloud to paste le toucan
lowkey filling the quotas is profitable af this is my 3rd yndas stand and you dont even have to farm ore
3 yndas? 👀
pog, beöt
how many quotas would you say?
place your bets
idk like over 50 probably but not that many
skelies
shocking
여기 한국어 하시는 분 계신가요?
you just roll the required thing until its just crops until its a small number
got it
its obviously brutal shrine
english bad sorry
smh not dusting it
wonder how this is gonna go
is korean chat some where
right
in here server
i wish i could get this mastery in 3 not 4
(life)
Oh
korean would go hard
yes thats 4
i was gonna say theres like 4 masteries there in 4 
😭 i didnt realize at first i was tunneled on it mb
if your attack based non crit taking pt makes it a 3 point life mastery technically 
is that not 3
4 if you count the cost to grab
1 point for dex 2 points for life 1 for mastery
dex up, life, life, mastery
oh mastery
But it's only 3 to grab supp mastery
ok wtf
ig
1st maven
big
gulp
and I am already 30/40d out
is progen even worth anything idk how badly shrine belt tanked its value
(like is it 40 or 90d
lmao
ugh
i have been stuck in HC SSF twilight strand
for about 8 hours
i've almost fallen asleep running back and forth to hillock, almost one shotting him, and then resetting the area on 4 different scions
for the longest time i have finally gotten THE hillock
he spawned countless of surprisingly tough zombies, which normally wouldnt be a problem
the problem was, of course, a matter of sleepiness
and skill
and, well, GGG deliberately deciding to screw over PC players who use a gamepad.
since you cannot reliably target the boss on a twin stick, dodge the jumps and heal hits from zombies, at the same time
because, you guessed it, the auto targeting option picks the nearest target at almost random.
back to square 1.
Fairly tanked
GET DOWN
it was 80d earlier xd
so true
idk why it tanked that hard
그리고 만약 한국어를 못했다면, 내가 무슨 말을 했는지 어떻게 알았어?
oh wait are you trying to farm oni
lmao gl that sounds awful on controller
Indeed it is
So as a sane person, I switched to kbm for the remaining 3 scions
it's pretty shrimple
구글 번역인가요?
shrimplex mentioned
yes
Why did I get tagged and was demanded to wake up
wait
It's really baffling too, because only on gamepad PC, the UI is also inverted, giving you HP/mana bar on top, instead of the usual placement
@short prairie is korean
someone asked if mf was worth in ssf
대박
Chinese
mfw
i thought have korean friend at finally
randomly nukes me in memory game sometimes
Hey you're not me ;^(
i always thought you are murican senses
if i dash too close
did you stand on rhe expanding circle
because its not random
Asian murican
lol
I'm the older, friendlier version of you 
how bait is this 
Not bait if ci build
good
then @opal ingot is korean
not bait
普通话还是粤语?
no ci...
Untrue
bait if hybrid build
Both
Canto or mando @short prairie
Happy
losing life leech kinda pain
한국어 하시는 줄 알았는데요? 그건 한글이 아니잖아요.
Both
holy balls
oh that was so annoying on ben kboc
impossible
ghost reaver + life flask
어느 쪽이든 저희에게는 한국어 채팅방이 없습니다.
i was so so happy to do ci swap
my fps rn is struggling so hard i die to corpse explod
clown react this guy
I'm pure canto
it is kinda pain but i dont rly have es recover anywhere 
I'm just kidding
dont X react me
yeah its not fun to play
who is we
噢,真酷!我们在韩国学校学过中文,而且我是在父母一方是韩国人、另一方是中国人的家庭里长大的。不过,我只会说普通话。
guys I can't read Chinese either

sad times
wait
senses
jst learn dood
what did he typed
다 괜찮아. 그나저나 네가 내 언어를 할 줄 안다니 정말 멋지네.
Dayum you might want to learn English
To speak in this channel
use chat gpt
it's getting there
senses i got a serious question
아주 조금만
He said I secretly like rilay she just doesn’t know
I understand enough
I mean it is understandable enough
is it easier to hit feed/fuel/martial on sword or shield cluster
i am too lazy to coe and sure you know
yeah there's worse in the help channels sometimes
멋지네요. 어디서 배우셨어요?
대학 팀
yes
ew why no explode
good idea
coz when i want explode i have kboc
it slow
WTF
this is for my harvester
im prettt sure its sword
现在我知道了
deadass was not looking at the monitor, but the chat
Sword
你会说普通话吗?
literally wtf
love doing that when i space out on the memory game 
não
i just guessed the right plates
okay im not gonna lie i cant speak korean or chinese i was just deadas bored and wanted to do something

mods
i wanna farm scarabs
crush his skull
I wanted to frac bloodscent but failed multiple times 
man I wish vaal temptation wasn't so hard to make work properly lmao
sans
do you value your wrists' health
wait no no no hold on
shika
tbh i do wonder what the odds are you randomly get it right considering it cant go R>L so you always know one possible hit when it goes R
Mods kick this guy
what are ppl farming for scarabs this leaug
rsi my beloved
oh, ok, do scarabs
operative boxes
boxes
WHATD I DO
you loot like 4+ inventories a map
For being a troll
hateforge celestial mathematics vaal ground slam with vaal temptation support.
get a bunch of reduced skill cost to drop rage cost to like 3 per cast, boon of the mountain gives you 50% less damage over time taken to reduce damage taken by 50%

get endurance charges and pdr on chest for more reduction
the problem is on left side of the tree you need 5x regenerative runes to get flask charges gained low enough
thats with 3 meds
the funniest shit regarding languages is
you would need to go like, four i think
is it mod abuse if they ask for it 
Uh. Well actually---no I"m fine. I'll settle for something less
Tbh this is better than fortify
can you even impossible escape for the small flask charge node at natural remedies
I still can't really write or speak german (only b1), despite living in switzerland for almost a decade now
its worth 1 passive point for me and i like it
yes u can
No that’s like 3 passive points
thats totally not stockholm syndrome from missing too many coins talking too
it's such a fucking garbage use of one jewel slot for 5% reduced flask charges used tho
I wanted to fracture abyss socket so I slammed one on boots and ended up rolling T1 %ES and fracturing that instead
Cuz 3 rage on hit
i hate it
Not 1
yeah but this sorta build caps on 1 already
dont you want charges gained not reduced used mostly?
So youd steal careful conservationist as your IE
the breakpoints are either 120% flask charges gained+15% reduced charges used or 150%+10% with 5 regenerative runes
why is this a fucking gif
cuz you either have 22 charges per flask or 25
depending on 10% reduced or 15% with max roll on the flask itself
ugh
so you can burn either a fourth cluster jewel socket for 4 points, or a normal socket for 1 point
brown background unc
im not actually sure what's better because they both feel ass lmao
thats with careful conservationist as an anoint
lucky shit
considering they've started in 1997
what if i add more lag to my build
yeah, very
Bigbang?
Yousei Teikoku
japenis
i do think id run this as the steal from escape taking the 2 smalls to free up anoint and just getting enough flask charges gained from mediums
seems most efficient to me ?
plus it's a new one, not even a remaster that they've been doing this year
Lmao no one listens to Chinese songs cuz they are mostly ballads and hard to sing along
4 tones and 9 tones respectively for mando and canto
not a bad escape by any means
tho id kif your proj based i clicked that instinctively

Yeic
with hateforge+vaal temptation lol
its ultra ass
absolutely should not be trying this
fugg I really want to hit a light of meaning here but if I want to run impossible escape I can't lol
in this spot
as good as lom is i think you need flask stuff too badly on that build to not run escape lol
i need a second cluster anyways by the top left
ok i understand
Another fine addition to my playlist ngl
yes
and for 5 points there is the mom jewel socket
wrists gonna be DEAD
What
Yup
Operative boxes be dum
enjoy having a billion loadscreens tho
technically a 20 stack of mythic scarabs is possible
Time to add Chinese pop to your list
don't like how chinese sounds tbh
technically dropping 20 mirrors from 1 arcanist is also possible
considerin my atlas has about 4 actual scaarab nodes
I had 5 bloodlines
contains 10 additional items and extremely high luck
Think my best was 3 contain?
only the scarab block, rarity, and the boosts for specific types work
understandable, too hard to learn, too many tones.
best I had was 6x risk
no, not that
which isn't even that good
Its good now
just don't like it acoustically
didnt have sword clusters but nothing shitload of juice could solve 😛
risk is worth smth
For example
oh i thought you meant feed fuel and martial together lol
does anyone take fuel
overleech setups?
hmm?
also not scaled by scarab quant
i mean its in the back there anywayse
IM HOME
f
I don't like how it sounds
so do you have an atlas
This cluster is mostly for slayers and tricksters cuz they have innate overleech
But pblood works too
Or the timeless keystone
Forgor what it’s called
not naymore
you still want full scarab quant since theres fuck all to take and still affects the monster portion of the loot tbh
I might try SSF next league
its just okay use of your points
my friend has ocd and it's hard for him to play trade leagues
immortal ambition i think
if without containment - yes
you run full mirage maps for containment haunted otherwise
skip all but arca, div, operator
on w/e layout you enjoy since it doesnt rly matter
I wish haunted wasn't the optimal choice
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such a shit layout
honestly i would just open all boxes.. i have gotten so many stray divs and valdos
I think its a fine layout
I'm not sure if you're making back your money's worth if you skip the majority
Doesnt havea billion doors you need to open for a closed layout atleast and you have ample room to move and for mechanics to spawn
Ye that
also opalescent is okay ish. for every 5 healthy minds you drop one of them is worth 7 div
you skip the fucking armourer boxes that give you nothing
not anymore
20 mana healthy minds are worth fuck all unless theyve gone back up
not my kind of genre in the first place
I prefer something like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaCFIVgr0TY
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Oh I see, anime songs
ur better off just opening arca div operative for div/hr at the cost of your div/map
no lmao
The electric guitars
since your basically doubling or tripling your time in the map opening all the dog shit
uh
I sometimes still open artisans for gcps
hmm
funny
I’m not too much of a rock metal fan
(naturally i dont follow this and opened every box since its fun)
I like quite songs
question, if you have both celestial mathematics and enmity's embrace, which part actually breaks your ward first
the keystone or the self-damage
they arent technically worth it
Ballads, like the ones from IU.
neither 
Its both on same server tick
(probably)
wasnt there also a super rare div card you could only get from armourers 💀
it isn't, but sometimes it's bc I misread it as arcanist 
i forgot
what sources of unlucky block are there even? I don't understand why suddenly my effective block is way lower
cuz one just breaks ward independent of damage but the other is self dmg
iron fortress?
so i have no clue how the game handles that
did you set yourself to unlucky block in config
do i need map scarab stuff or just quant
but yeah seems healthy mind dropped back down to 100c. that was quick. 7 div a week ago
still worth a quick mouseover, also for uhh whats the other one called
I think they actually did some music for a few eroges xd
His attack block is unlucky too
quant packsize
rain of splinters ye
why won't you sell...
You can scarab chisel if you want but it doesnt affect the operative box part of loot lol
just monster part
min roll rain of splinters is worth a pretty penny
Operative boxes turn into the Jewel ones with corruption it's annoying
legded 😛
i honestly hate this. like I want to continue playing, but if many people stop then the economy starts sucking
Don't think so, unless it's one of the checkboxes which I doubt
who sets this manually… kind of funny
its at the top not a check box just a drop down
oohhh yes, thanks, should've been by mistake
i mean it can be useful
calculating the odds you live thru a super unlucky streak vs feared in valdos is technically a use case
no
super unlucky streak is 0% block
They specifically state void

you better get a sick ass bonus for it then
Yup still relevant
I mean
You know the map your putting in
If you want you could runa map for veil of the night
it would make sense to have this mod be more apparent when the rewards are nothing short of amazing
???
its very very apparent
It literally stats you are sent to the void and gives you a warning when you goto enter
A parent?
congrats
never
dada senses

u got an atlas tree
where woke empower game
If I’m a dad like esm I will have no time to play games
Uuuh not anymore
you'll have plenty of time
or woke enl
rewards blackheart. player sent to void on death.

if you manage to click past the void warning nothing's gonna save you 
is it just generic scarab tree with box and eater
and no beyond
shouuuld be right
Full mod effect taking uh arca/carto chances
valdo maps are probably pretty good on hc since it doesnt matter either way
Yep and you can choose to run that
Or just dont
No, it’s a modern society, wife not going to take care of the kids
you dont need a wife to be a dada
Lotta them are straight unrunnable on HC since they cant gear enough to get the billions of dps for the rly fucked up ones
should i make a valdo farmer
wrong
because hc deaths just send you to sc
im so bored idk what to do i did it all
Sure, a dad to a doggo
I suppose so, but do hc players touch sc usually?
thought they were a different breed 😛
oh i hate the new hc meta ngl where if they die they sell everything on sc trade to someone quitting hc who trades them their hc currency
@cobalt blade
cross-league trading is against tos
i have 500d
its rly dumb
if ppl are doing that it's reportable
walk and spam
Only to standard
embrace animate weapon of ranged arms
because that's the only trade the game enables directly
it's like a ranged righteous fire you just walk and everything dies 
Its allowed between hc/sc
wtf
only have to resummon minions at times but thats about it
Just not standard
why is maven scamming me
oh right
Its just allowed
Spark aura stacker
I'm getting a bit bored of breach beyond on my way to 100, any other good strats for XP? I want to try and get there without buying 5ways this time
may i offer u a hearty handshake in these trying times
thats honestly surprising i saw a video by chris wilson lately where I think he said they specifically made sure you couldnt do that lmao
maybe im going crazy
shrug
(high probability)
the go-to answer would have been harbinger + beyond but harby got removed
next best would be i guess abyss + beyond?
but idk how abyss loot is atm
maybe not even beyond based on what fish said
wait why carto
I need a strat that prints 100s of standard t16 maps
naca, thoughts https://pobb.in/ZCx2PImBS-ss?
?
risk sells unless its crashed
tried to make a "tanky" hot
oh the scarabs
should I just go full deli cartographer and just add as much crap to maps as possible?
holy shavs
forgot to go for divi
I know this used to be really really strong with alva
i feel like you should rly be going melding there
so like, do i get to pick eagon or naw
why does maven moan when killed xd
yes, for quant
Although i guess it is kinda painful with light that's just rly painful use of mb flasks on an autobomber since losing silver flask
Yuh
yeah i couldnt figure out another way to make farewell to flesh work
ngl wtf even is that
the lycia notable
any sense in doing deli as well? if im killing a lot of monsters anyway...
those used to be a bit better ngl xd
How do you guys deal with the challenge grind?
i tried the foulborn esh shield but without annhilating u do zdps no matter what with hot
am i literally just slotting all of them
depends
take it a bit at a time
Discern is personal pref its more arcanist/diviners less operative
decide if u even want 40/40
do you want to cope with diviners
otherwise yea
not this league tbh
why does izaro go ooooooooooooooh every time you reach him
some leagues easier some leagues harder yes but still
do i just replace with another norm amby
Tbh it hasnt been a grind for the past few leagues
overall, it still requires considerable playtime
Yuh
okeee
and why does it multiply for each party member going in
that always cracks me up
yes
OOOOOOOOOOOO a wea a wea a wea ryryryryry
to do challs i generally just spend a month playing normally/making money (usually gets between 15-25)
then throw all my money at some fast MB build endgame project and push the rest
meow?
super cursed in party
mrow
meoww
mrrp
u can get all challs done with sub 100 hours played
I also love the delirium guy that mocks you sometimes, Ohhh, the weary traveler draws close to the end of his life
but thats efficient playing
i just do challenges tbh once i get bored since it takes fuck all time
im sitting at 20 something atm
ill do them at some point before league ends
rn on a several day poe break again lol
When is next league starting?
like almost 2.5 months lol
more if it gets delayed
i do a lot of master content for real
i havent rly tried to get any 
I'm 26/40
imagine doing master content in the league that dupes all content except masters
OMEGALAUGHING
I think im like 19
even in other leagues i just cba
I am 37/40
most of these challenges just revolve around blowing currency anyway lol
i always forget how silly this is
cba doing the 3 simple ones xd
i had one pop the other day when i dived something
what is
Yeah I bought a map for 27 divines
ye that's the only expensive challenge
it's one challenge
wtf which map is worth 27div?
there is only one challenge that requires blowing money
yeah not complaining its just not something im doing
alva is pain in the ass to setup and i never do the giga juiced strats for her
jun is dead and gone to me cuz veiled benchcrafts dont come from her anymore
niko has always been dead content to me and always will be
einhar its just like why bother, tanky mobs with no extra loot that are worth 1c ea and i can bulk buy
replace it with HOG 
i leeched that from a friend early league when she was doing challenges before quitting 
theres all the crafting ones
ur wrong about the einhar mob value
so people know how nice it was to have dori
not like they're particularly expensive ig but yea
they're irrelevant amounts of currency
yeah some are worth more if u actually spec into it and shit
no
havent used a single coin
fuck tft tho i never used that
and before that 2.smth
most i ever paid was 3c/beast
ye early league sure
nah even late usually
i only use tft when i have to bulk really
they've been like 6c this league
didnt buy much this league tho
buying 100 t16 maps is awful with standard trade
eh you just find someone whos listed a whole tab or 2 worth and toss in your regex
yeah I agree
not that bad
why would you buy t16s in bulk
16.5 maybe
What does a 5 way back shot run means ? And why is it 4 divines in trade chat?
even if yellows were 10c ea u couldnt make me deal with the annoyance that is menagerie or the mobs
for good 8 mods
or to buy maps for your mappers
super secret strats 😏
mappers?
remember that on pc its cheap, lol
my regex is kinda fucked up because I lose to the most random mods ever
raw t16s are what, 3-4c each?
oh yeah my bad been asking alot of dumb questions today
5-8
and a div is 340c or smth
1c
at 8 mod
Idk non 8mod actually
ugh
plain t16s like 3-5c
actually its just an all around movement speed based farm. heist, good wishes, hideouts, gift to the goddess etc
don't wanna do it
Uber maven
if you put max price at 8c you'll see 8c maps instead of the 10c trade recommends you
except once i got lucky and bought a couple hundred at 12c
yea
but then like
odds of them having many maps isn't great
i'd rather pay more per map with fewer instance hops
I follow the alch and go strat
fair
i find regexing and dealing with trading for maps more annoying than farming them except on leaguestart
i mean fair but lotta then end up with a tab or so
with what, breach?
ye just personal preference finally
What atlas trees you guys use?
Breach + beyond + originator?
breach, blight, shrines all good
Mostly i just really hate how broken the trade sites been this league for 8 mods tbh
BV right?
oh yeah
as in if you dont set a max buyout it gives you more expensive maps
it's time senses
@cobalt blade ok i cant afford spark
it's time to wardloop

check the prices first before making that assumption
wait for what?
play animate weapon of ranged arms and do all content while mostly flying under the radar for expensive gear
That's not broken, and it's not new at all whatsoever
you know how people in this game are 😛
yeah i did earlier
wait for 11d
Is delve worth doing?
there's like 5-10d profit on most items if ur willing to wait 10 hours for it to sell
i knew shika was gonna pop off seeing that drop 
WTF
lul
quick example and its mostly 5c or under maps
just not worth it for the effort
im dyin to fuckin ignites
understandable
I mean the weird price sorting issues is a little bit broken
GGGs pagination stuff is a bit off
kekw
It literally is when your sorted by price lol
its just the fact that the gear is pretty much all eldritch and basic ass shit like fire res and life regen
play ES, it's amazing they said
The game intentionally does not let you make a search for all items in the entire game. Because that'd be way too expensive in terms of server infrastructure.
So it caps results when your search is too broad.
10000+ matched means you need to make a more narrow search to not miss results.
No
u can crank them out fast so no profit in it
No
yes
it's not
It is literally working as designed
yes i know im still of the opinion its broken when sorting by price does not give you the cheapest option even though i recognise the reason(and again go around it regularly)
its happened significantly more this league from every map being generic though
It's not broken if it's working as intended.
?
thats not too bad lol. douse flask?
cowb is 11d yes
If I were to guess GGG is paginating on a different value and this causes skips to happen, where its "double" paged do to weird behaviors in joins producing inner query problems.
Shows up when you write a query in a query, or use a window table and nest a query on that.
So instead of paginating the whole db, you just paginate a "chunk" of it
Its a common bug tbh
No idea what you're talking about but it's not what the other person is having a "problem" with
Explore builds and passive tree heatmaps of Mirage.
man
all these builds are bait
what the FUUUUCK
god i hate sanctum
And it does give you the cheapest, from your results. And the amount of results is genuinely plenty generous.
who doesn't
it's 0.8d/map
what the fuck am i looking at here
What would you rather, just not get any results at all if your search is too broad?
poe ninja did not update price yet for cowb
there is also budget kboc necro
so it uses the older one
why did they think locking the ascendancy behind it was a good idea
what IS this
can't force updaste my spreadsheet
that looks like a poe2 tree lol
it's 11d, that's dogshit
ok
Its possibly it, basically imagine if I go to paginate a query but first my outer query grabs only 1/5th of the db, and then we paginate only that 1/5th
But that 1/5th is basically random.
then the next query gets a different pseudo random slice and you get page 2 of that
They sorta look like they line up, but you get weird glitches where records show up twice, or you are sorting but it has breaks on tge sort like
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
11
9
9
11
11
12
Imean it can be working as intended and broken in the sense your not being given the cheapest you sorted by
not worth running at all
SPARK OF THE NOVA???
are you running lowest level forbidden tome you can? makes it easier
9 LINK GLOVES????????
are you calculating the /map by considering the chance
It's literally not what the other person is talking about at all
its honestly a skill issue on my part
i have more than enough dps
ah ok
Or rather, "suffering" from
idrc but a warning would help people not overpay who dont know "too much stuff is found by your search these may not be the cheapest option"
i hate the rooms where it spawns the uniques one by one
@cobalt blade is this sorta what you have seen?
like i do just "fix" the search myself takes no effort
I had 8 of them in like 40 maps once
@full kraken @full kraken @full kraken
when they were 20d/pop
No
A common example of this is when you sort by dps descending but you actually dont get the highest dps
Then you set a minimum dps to shrink the search space and suddenly items way higher show up
It shows oldest listings first
Or, vise versa
I have a literal spreadsheet
a good build
linked in my profile
and the older listings happen to be the more expensive ones
ok
it's even pinned
it reaches a limit and sorts by cheapest of those oldest listings lol
It could make it a little bit more clear yes, like: 10000 results collated. 10000+ matched.
bold of you to assume anyone checks pins
for the purpose of figuring out best map to run
Yea
I mean it'd be you losing out on valuable info, occasionally
It's not a bug. It's an intentional system limitation so that people don't crash their servers by searching for 99.9999% of items that exist
it was a joke
@cobalt blade whats more likely causing this is you are shrinking the search space which removes the weird sharding problem
Just to test it out: instead of setting a max price, insead set some other limiter thatll greatly lower the search results, like specifying 1 specific mod so you get like 1/10th the results back
Can you link me an example search you do? Ive experienced this bug on trade site countless times and Im confident its what I think it is
Which btw is an exaggeration, it's actually a bigger %
It seems like no matter what I've done for defenses on my evasion build, I have yet to prevent the random one shots with it.
Thats just an indicator of bad indexing and improperly implemented pagination
No
Mind you, its quite challenging to do pagination right
The search grabs 10000 matches
i love the spawn patterns in jv
woah they updated the graphics on a bunch of the body armour mtx
they make 0 sense
Then stops looking
yes any kind of limiter will improve it lmao
God no, lol, no it doesnt
the kalgurran runesmith one actually looks decent now
You can search by arbitrary weighted sums of any stat combination possible
Okay yup yeah thats the bug I was mentioning
And yeah Im fairly sure I know what I would go looking for to fix it if I was a backend developer for ggg
And sort by them
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Mirage/ve4n06BDuE it grabs oldest first which is pretty noticeable when you sort by time listed by clicking the x days part
It's not a bug
Where is this? Not running Haunted?
Its indeed a bug, or at least Id classify it as a hack to fix the problem
Because the proper fix is very challenging to do right
damnit all these chests actually look cool now and i still can't use any of em
more pack size more boxes??
And what ggg does is the way easier way to get it 99% right but it does have this funky behavior
You can't create indexes to sort by because you can sort by weighted sums of literally anything
databases are always such a pain. if the database is too slow, the queue on the dbc server fills up and then you're going to run into major memory limitations. if the server crashes when the write queue has not been completed to the db you get the dreaded rollbacks
You can actually, but you have to leverage vector stuff to do that
why is flying animation only attached to the 2 kirac pass chests 
And its possible whatever db ggg uses doesnt easily support that feature
wasnt there one in a box at some point
Doubt
idk there was 1 dlying effect from 1 earlier kirac pass i remember
the game im working on uses mssql so rip 
flying*
easily the worst one
I honestly don't believe you can index in a way to let you sort every existing item that has ever been listed
without that being a massive drain
full mirage orginator map when?
Word I sometimes run jungle it's always back and forth. The altars are better in the valley you don't have to rush the boss
where any stat can be any weight
We have entered the territory of what I do for a living.
Vectorizing search indexes for multi wing search trees is... not easy and kimda esoteric but possible. Just... does require you to be very familiar with linear algebra nuances
plain text file you send to anyone who opens trade site surely nothing breaks 
you totally can. you dont have to store all the entries in the same collection of items
every item with every stat
But also pixxel your not accounting for the fact they need to handle the mess that is standard
Like you gotta be in the headspace of treating stat mods like multi dimensional vectors and your search query like a cartesian plane
if you can determine before your search which ones to filter, that takes off a lot of load
you talking about the floating? the king of farudin or whatever in the packs does it too, but yeah last leagues maven does as well
Its way too much to index everything lmao
And your search is finding the closest points in this multi dimensional space
I don't believe you can do this
true ty
but why cant we just like
buy the effect
why it gotta be locked to body armours n shit
thatd be nice
the maven set last league is pretty sick in general it shades really well with character effects
nah what
Theres entire types of databases built for this, or, postgres has awesome support for it.
yeh its what im using atm
Its like a whole entire wing of database engineering
is there anyone who can help me regear my build? i have the money, just need help finding similar items
does anyone have this and can show me
Is it actually
But, definitely more esoteric, and ggg's approach is way simpler and probably "good enough" for them 99% of the time and doesnt require hiring a specialist for it XD
You have to buy this?
if i use a "mirrored rare" scarab does it affect the mirage?
I cant tell if it has clear or st
yeah its 300 coins
aite, so i tossed this together but literally half the build's damage depends on if enmity does not brick celestial mathematics https://pobb.in/56RbASAoVXmO
If the mirrored rare is within the mirage area it should
This still doesn't sound like it makes it feasible to make any imaginary possible weighted sum search sort possible
if it does, you would just go invert the rules and a second rare ring instead of enmity
am i really debating buying a 40$ cape that i can ride like a magic carpet
ah! so as with everything
it works sometimes
I think most databases are horribly inefficient to begin with
but unless you have petabytes of ram to burn theres not really any alternative
And I would be surprised if they don't already have a specialist considering how much load their databses suffer continuously
godamnit it actually looks fuckin cool too
but i drop this before apostate
surprised if they don't already have a specialist
his name's dave the intern okay don't be rude and forget him like that
id be surprised if they did consider they can only hire from the land of giant spiders and shit
@opaque sphinx my maven setup
Its super cool stuff, I recommend reading papers on it. Its a hella powerful way to organize data for lightning fast searching on.
Its key to backing a lot of powerful quick matching algorithms now for searching huge datasets for closest match hits.
Im not even 100% familiar with the exact math on it, I just know that cartesuan products go BRRRRRRR
They do offer to relocate people for some positions
does it need ramp like the foot mtx as well?
that annoys me the most about those mtxes
shrug
that you dont start flying instantly
think it does tbh, the video shows the dude running for a sec before it flies off his back and goes under his feet
From prior posts ggg has made it sounds more like their business layer is what gets the most pressure, not their databases
Some can argue that some of these cosmetics are a tad over priced. But can't complain for a free game
And iirc they can hire people outside if there's noone they can get ahold of in their country
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why your helm slook so good
Because they probably already have a database guy :p
specifically they can only hire abroad if theres noone they can get local
supporter packs are the gateway drug to the cosmetics anyway, since they offer a lot of stuff for 30/60/90 USD
judicator hood with purple eyes
and then you get those cash amounts worth of points too
oh its ridiculously overpriced
30 USD for a single cape is literally like 40-45$ of my money(canada sucks)
i can buy multiple games for that
does anyone know how to search for exceptional gems?



