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atomic crane
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Well single target felt like a wet noodle since I play msoz

split palm
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finally

twin arch
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what enchanted blueprints do u need to buy

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to heist good

cobalt blade
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experimented items or currency/shards

split palm
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all that for 2 tokens and a blue

cobalt blade
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but also fuck heist

atomic crane
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I mostly just play zenith but I wanted to try a crazy explody mapper was fun

split maple
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Naca 😮

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let him keep the simplex cheap

split palm
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truly, a one of a kind 110 quant feared

atomic crane
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You would know better

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It's my 3rd league

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I'm semi new

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
reef pewter
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m

atomic crane
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I did it for a day it was so poopoo

split palm
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skill issue

atomic crane
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The 2 most consistent money I did this league was harvest and nightmare rush

cobalt blade
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like most bossing things its high variance do like 100 sets and its okay kek

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(just dont get fucked on charlathans doing Uber dread witness)

split palm
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185 dreads

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no sword

atomic crane
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I think breach is bait honestly

cobalt blade
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clearly means ur due for back to back ones right

split palm
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like 450 noin ubers

atomic crane
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But my league goal was dropping a lock

frigid wedge
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how the fuck do i looot these maps

split palm
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no flask

atomic crane
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So i kept doing it

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Until I dropped a lock

cobalt blade
split palm
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feared has many giga hits

cobalt blade
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atleast when i tried to run bloodlines breach for a bit before getting annoyed at how bad the fps was since my pc does not like it

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didnt get the big hit but i was making profit every map

atomic crane
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My laptop died

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Since I was playing an auto bomber

cobalt blade
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lol

rancid sluice
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low budget seems more profitable. middle ground breach is kinda meh its either balls out or low budget

atomic crane
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But then I finally dropped my lock and dipped

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No more breach

cobalt blade
split palm
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mini gamba time

cobalt blade
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blood is okay profit over a large period

split palm
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2 FFs

rancid sluice
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i never really dove into hive didnt really care for it

cobalt blade
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ye its good gold but everything is

cobalt blade
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toss something on the side to watch and just brain off

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awful if you cant do that tho

split palm
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gonna run one

rancid sluice
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i leveled 99-100 on deli breach beyond on some low end scarabs and was really surprised on my drops even though i was there for xp

atomic crane
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I was doing afk ravaged blighted maps early in the league it got me going

atomic crane
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The xp is crazyyy

rancid sluice
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yeah i went from 99-100 in under 50 maps

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like 2% a map or something

atomic crane
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It encouraged me to make a second character

split palm
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-5d

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at least I got a barya

reef pewter
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am i aloud to paste le toucan

trail cobalt
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lowkey filling the quotas is profitable af this is my 3rd yndas stand and you dont even have to farm ore

split maple
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3 yndas? 👀

split palm
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pog, beöt

split maple
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how many quotas would you say?

split palm
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place your bets

trail cobalt
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idk like over 50 probably but not that many

split maple
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skelies

gentle chasm
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shocking

reef pewter
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여기 한국어 하시는 분 계신가요?

split palm
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also no

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no one speaks korean here

trail cobalt
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you just roll the required thing until its just crops until its a small number

reef pewter
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got it

cobalt blade
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its obviously brutal shrine

reef pewter
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english bad sorry

split palm
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it was

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deleted

cobalt blade
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smh not dusting it

frigid wedge
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wonder how this is gonna go

split palm
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39d on maven frags

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surely I win

reef pewter
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is korean chat some where

split palm
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right

reef pewter
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in here server

stuck phoenix
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No

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There's only English

dim turtle
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i wish i could get this mastery in 3 not 4 ReallySad (life)

reef pewter
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Oh

native abyss
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korean would go hard

dim turtle
cobalt blade
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i was gonna say theres like 4 masteries there in 4 kek

dim turtle
cobalt blade
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if your attack based non crit taking pt makes it a 3 point life mastery technically Pogott

trail cobalt
stuck phoenix
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4 if you count the cost to grab

cobalt blade
dim turtle
trail cobalt
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oh mastery

stuck phoenix
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But it's only 3 to grab supp mastery

dim turtle
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i got nothing to do with that one

cobalt blade
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runegraft

split palm
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ok wtf

dim turtle
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ig

split palm
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1st maven

cobalt blade
dim turtle
split palm
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and I am already 30/40d out

cobalt blade
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is progen even worth anything idk how badly shrine belt tanked its value

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(like is it 40 or 90d

split palm
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30

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d

cobalt blade
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lmao

narrow spindle
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ugh
i have been stuck in HC SSF twilight strand
for about 8 hours
i've almost fallen asleep running back and forth to hillock, almost one shotting him, and then resetting the area on 4 different scions

for the longest time i have finally gotten THE hillock
he spawned countless of surprisingly tough zombies, which normally wouldnt be a problem

the problem was, of course, a matter of sleepiness
and skill

and, well, GGG deliberately deciding to screw over PC players who use a gamepad.
since you cannot reliably target the boss on a twin stick, dodge the jumps and heal hits from zombies, at the same time
because, you guessed it, the auto targeting option picks the nearest target at almost random.

back to square 1.

cobalt blade
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Fairly tanked

twin arch
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GET DOWN

split palm
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it was 80d earlier xd

split palm
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idk why it tanked that hard

reef pewter
narrow spindle
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Sorry for the flashbang

cobalt blade
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oh wait are you trying to farm oni

narrow spindle
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Ofc

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Why wouldn't I do that in hc ssf

cobalt blade
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lmao gl that sounds awful on controller

narrow spindle
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Indeed it is

narrow spindle
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So as a sane person, I switched to kbm for the remaining 3 scions

split palm
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it's pretty shrimple

reef pewter
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구글 번역인가요?

sleek barn
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shrimplex mentioned

split palm
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yes

sleek barn
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login

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guys I can't read Korean

short prairie
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Why did I get tagged and was demanded to wake up

normal hedge
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wait

narrow spindle
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It's really baffling too, because only on gamepad PC, the UI is also inverted, giving you HP/mana bar on top, instead of the usual placement

normal hedge
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@short prairie is korean

split palm
reef pewter
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대박

short prairie
sleek barn
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mfw

split palm
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lmao baited

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i love how maven

reef pewter
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i thought have korean friend at finally

split palm
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randomly nukes me in memory game sometimes

narrow spindle
split maple
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i always thought you are murican senses

split palm
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if i dash too close

cobalt blade
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because its not random

short prairie
cobalt blade
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lol

sleek barn
dim turtle
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how bait is this Hmm

cobalt blade
sleek barn
normal hedge
sleek barn
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not bait

reef pewter
dim turtle
cobalt blade
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bait if hybrid build

short prairie
sleek barn
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Canto or mando @short prairie

reef pewter
cobalt blade
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losing life leech kinda pain

twin arch
short prairie
sleek barn
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holy balls

split maple
sleek barn
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impossible

split maple
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ghost reaver + life flask

twin arch
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어느 쪽이든 저희에게는 한국어 채팅방이 없습니다.

split maple
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i was so so happy to do ci swap

frigid wedge
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my fps rn is struggling so hard i die to corpse explod

sleek barn
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I'm pure canto

short prairie
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Que?

dim turtle
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it is kinda pain but i dont rly have es recover anywhere Hmm

sleek barn
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I'm just kidding

twin arch
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dont X react me

cobalt blade
twin arch
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he literally asked

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if we had a korean chat

split palm
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who is we

reef pewter
twin arch
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and then started speaking in cantonese

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what the fuck

sleek barn
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guys I can't read Chinese either

split palm
sleek barn
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sad times

split palm
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wait

normal hedge
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senses

dim turtle
normal hedge
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what did he typed

reef pewter
short prairie
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Dayum you might want to learn English

split palm
short prairie
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To speak in this channel

reef pewter
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i try

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it sound very no good

normal hedge
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use chat gpt

sleek barn
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it's getting there

split maple
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senses i got a serious question

short prairie
sleek barn
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I understand enough

split palm
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I mean it is understandable enough

split maple
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is it easier to hit feed/fuel/martial on sword or shield cluster

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i am too lazy to coe and sure you know

sleek barn
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yeah there's worse in the help channels sometimes

reef pewter
twin arch
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대학 팀

reef pewter
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okay

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i try speak english then

twin arch
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yes

twin arch
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good idea

split maple
reef pewter
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it slow

split palm
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WTF

split maple
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this is for my harvester

split palm
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I just fucking guessed

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the 6 thing memory game

cobalt blade
dim turtle
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Hmm fair point

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but the dopamine hits from the sound...

normal hedge
split palm
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deadass was not looking at the monitor, but the chat

reef pewter
split palm
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literally wtf

cobalt blade
split palm
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I just

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didn't look at all

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like even when trying to kms

normal hedge
split palm
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i just guessed the right plates

reef pewter
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okay im not gonna lie i cant speak korean or chinese i was just deadas bored and wanted to do something

native abyss
reef pewter
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just using google translate

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xD

split palm
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mods

frigid wedge
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i wanna farm scarabs

split palm
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crush his skull

short prairie
coral summit
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man I wish vaal temptation wasn't so hard to make work properly lmao

split palm
reef pewter
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ppls

split palm
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do you value your wrists' health

coral summit
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wait no no no hold on

frigid wedge
cobalt blade
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tbh i do wonder what the odds are you randomly get it right considering it cant go R>L so you always know one possible hit when it goes R

frigid wedge
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i miss scarab farming

short prairie
frigid wedge
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what are ppl farming for scarabs this leaug

cobalt blade
split palm
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oh, ok, do scarabs

cobalt blade
split palm
reef pewter
cobalt blade
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you loot like 4+ inventories a map

short prairie
reef pewter
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sensei

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no

coral summit
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hateforge celestial mathematics vaal ground slam with vaal temptation support.
get a bunch of reduced skill cost to drop rage cost to like 3 per cast, boon of the mountain gives you 50% less damage over time taken to reduce damage taken by 50%

coral summit
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get endurance charges and pdr on chest for more reduction

reef pewter
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arent kicks kinda useless?

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arent bans better

coral summit
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the problem is on left side of the tree you need 5x regenerative runes to get flask charges gained low enough

cobalt blade
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Naah

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You can use flask clusters

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and impossible escape

coral summit
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thats with 3 meds

split palm
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the funniest shit regarding languages is

coral summit
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you would need to go like, four i think

stuck phoenix
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Xddd

cobalt blade
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is it mod abuse if they ask for it Pogott

reef pewter
short prairie
coral summit
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can you even impossible escape for the small flask charge node at natural remedies

split palm
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I still can't really write or speak german (only b1), despite living in switzerland for almost a decade now

short prairie
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Rn I need 2 points just to get 1 rage per hit

split maple
coral summit
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yes u can

short prairie
split maple
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thats totally not stockholm syndrome from missing too many coins talking too

coral summit
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it's such a fucking garbage use of one jewel slot for 5% reduced flask charges used tho

tranquil umbra
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I wanted to fracture abyss socket so I slammed one on boots and ended up rolling T1 %ES and fracturing that instead

short prairie
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Cuz 3 rage on hit

coral summit
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i hate it

short prairie
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Not 1

split maple
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yeah but this sorta build caps on 1 already

cobalt blade
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So youd steal careful conservationist as your IE

coral summit
tranquil umbra
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why is this a fucking gif

reef pewter
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its a gif

coral summit
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cuz you either have 22 charges per flask or 25

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depending on 10% reduced or 15% with max roll on the flask itself

frigid wedge
coral summit
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so you can burn either a fourth cluster jewel socket for 4 points, or a normal socket for 1 point

surreal mulch
split palm
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WAIT

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MY favourite band RELEASED ANOTHER SONG?

coral summit
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im not actually sure what's better because they both feel ass lmao

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thats with careful conservationist as an anoint

frigid wedge
split palm
frigid wedge
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what if i add more lag to my build

split palm
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yeah, very

short prairie
split palm
tranquil umbra
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japenis

cobalt blade
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seems most efficient to me ?

split palm
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plus it's a new one, not even a remaster that they've been doing this year

short prairie
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Lmao no one listens to Chinese songs cuz they are mostly ballads and hard to sing along

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4 tones and 9 tones respectively for mando and canto

cobalt blade
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not a bad escape by any means

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tho id kif your proj based i clicked that instinctively

coral summit
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no proj

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lol

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this would be trying to make vaal ground slam work

cobalt blade
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Yeic

coral summit
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with hateforge+vaal temptation lol

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its ultra ass

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absolutely should not be trying this

cobalt blade
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oh also you can actually hit the small

coral summit
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fugg I really want to hit a light of meaning here but if I want to run impossible escape I can't lol

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in this spot

cobalt blade
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as good as lom is i think you need flask stuff too badly on that build to not run escape lol

coral summit
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i need a second cluster anyways by the top left

frigid wedge
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ok i understand

split palm
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Another fine addition to my playlist ngl

split palm
coral summit
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and for 5 points there is the mom jewel socket

split palm
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wrists gonna be DEAD

short prairie
cobalt blade
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Operative boxes be dum

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enjoy having a billion loadscreens tho

split palm
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technically a 20 stack of mythic scarabs is possible

short prairie
split palm
cobalt blade
frigid wedge
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considerin my atlas has about 4 actual scaarab nodes

cobalt blade
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contains 10 additional items and extremely high luck

frigid wedge
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bc im doin breach

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yk

split palm
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not scaling boxes

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btw

cobalt blade
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Think my best was 3 contain?

split palm
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only the scarab block, rarity, and the boosts for specific types work

short prairie
sleek barn
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best I had was 6x risk

sleek barn
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which isn't even that good

cobalt blade
split palm
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just don't like it acoustically

split maple
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didnt have sword clusters but nothing shitload of juice could solve 😛

cobalt blade
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risk is worth smth

short prairie
cobalt blade
sleek barn
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huh that's a loss for me

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I sold em for like 40c each

split maple
cobalt blade
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overleech setups?

split palm
split maple
cobalt blade
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like that is decent inc dmg for a point

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Fair

split palm
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like xd

tacit crow
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IM HOME

cobalt blade
split palm
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I don't like how it sounds

frigid wedge
short prairie
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This cluster is mostly for slayers and tricksters cuz they have innate overleech

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But pblood works too

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Or the timeless keystone

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Forgor what it’s called

split palm
cobalt blade
halcyon flicker
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I might try SSF next league

cobalt blade
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its just okay use of your points

halcyon flicker
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my friend has ocd and it's hard for him to play trade leagues

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
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do i run haunted mansion

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or full mirage

split palm
cobalt blade
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you run full mirage maps for containment haunted otherwise

split palm
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skip all but arca, div, operator

cobalt blade
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on w/e layout you enjoy since it doesnt rly matter

sleek barn
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I wish haunted wasn't the optimal choice

short prairie
sleek barn
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such a shit layout

halcyon flicker
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honestly i would just open all boxes.. i have gotten so many stray divs and valdos

cobalt blade
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I think its a fine layout

halcyon flicker
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I'm not sure if you're making back your money's worth if you skip the majority

cobalt blade
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Doesnt havea billion doors you need to open for a closed layout atleast and you have ample room to move and for mechanics to spawn

short prairie
halcyon flicker
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also opalescent is okay ish. for every 5 healthy minds you drop one of them is worth 7 div

cobalt blade
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not anymore

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20 mana healthy minds are worth fuck all unless theyve gone back up

split palm
short prairie
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Immortal ambition pretty good but takes up a timeless slot

cobalt blade
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ur better off just opening arca div operative for div/hr at the cost of your div/map

split palm
short prairie
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The electric guitars

cobalt blade
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since your basically doubling or tripling your time in the map opening all the dog shit

coral summit
#

uh

sleek barn
coral summit
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hmm

sleek barn
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funny

short prairie
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I’m not too much of a rock metal fan

cobalt blade
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(naturally i dont follow this and opened every box since its fun)

short prairie
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I like quite songs

coral summit
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question, if you have both celestial mathematics and enmity's embrace, which part actually breaks your ward first

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the keystone or the self-damage

cobalt blade
short prairie
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Ballads, like the ones from IU.

cobalt blade
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Its both on same server tick

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(probably)

halcyon flicker
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wasnt there also a super rare div card you could only get from armourers 💀

sleek barn
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it isn't, but sometimes it's bc I misread it as arcanist kek

halcyon flicker
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i forgot

pulsar ice
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what sources of unlucky block are there even? I don't understand why suddenly my effective block is way lower

coral summit
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cuz one just breaks ward independent of damage but the other is self dmg

coral summit
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so i have no clue how the game handles that

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
halcyon flicker
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but yeah seems healthy mind dropped back down to 100c. that was quick. 7 div a week ago

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still worth a quick mouseover, also for uhh whats the other one called

split palm
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I think they actually did some music for a few eroges xd

short prairie
cobalt blade
halcyon flicker
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rain of splinters ye

split palm
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why won't you sell...

cobalt blade
#

You can scarab chisel if you want but it doesnt affect the operative box part of loot lol

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just monster part

halcyon flicker
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min roll rain of splinters is worth a pretty penny

atomic crane
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Operative boxes turn into the Jewel ones with corruption it's annoying

cobalt blade
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@pulsar ice

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did you set this

halcyon flicker
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i honestly hate this. like I want to continue playing, but if many people stop then the economy starts sucking

pulsar ice
short prairie
cobalt blade
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its at the top not a check box just a drop down

pulsar ice
cobalt blade
#

calculating the odds you live thru a super unlucky streak vs feared in valdos is technically a use case

halcyon flicker
#

that sounds terrifying

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ive never ran valdos, do they all void you?

cobalt blade
#

no

short prairie
cobalt blade
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They specifically state void

short prairie
halcyon flicker
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you better get a sick ass bonus for it then

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
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You know the map your putting in

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If you want you could runa map for veil of the night

halcyon flicker
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it would make sense to have this mod be more apparent when the rewards are nothing short of amazing

cobalt blade
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???

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its very very apparent

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It literally stats you are sent to the void and gives you a warning when you goto enter

short prairie
normal hedge
#

dada senses

short prairie
split palm
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where woke empower game

short prairie
#

If I’m a dad like esm I will have no time to play games

cobalt blade
normal hedge
#

you'll have plenty of time

split palm
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or woke enl

halcyon flicker
tranquil sedge
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if you manage to click past the void warning nothing's gonna save you kek

frigid wedge
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and no beyond

cobalt blade
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Full mod effect taking uh arca/carto chances

halcyon flicker
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valdo maps are probably pretty good on hc since it doesnt matter either way

cobalt blade
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Or just dont

short prairie
normal hedge
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you dont need a wife to be a dada

cobalt blade
halcyon flicker
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should i make a valdo farmer

tranquil sedge
cobalt blade
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do it

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have fun live searching for maps

halcyon flicker
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im so bored idk what to do i did it all

short prairie
halcyon flicker
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thought they were a different breed 😛

cobalt blade
twin arch
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@cobalt blade

tranquil sedge
twin arch
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i have 500d

cobalt blade
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its rly dumb

twin arch
#

i need a clear build

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that i can just

tranquil sedge
#

if ppl are doing that it's reportable

twin arch
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walk and spam

cobalt blade
tranquil sedge
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even between hc/sc

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u only trade in the league ur in

halcyon flicker
tranquil sedge
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because that's the only trade the game enables directly

cobalt blade
halcyon flicker
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it's like a ranged righteous fire you just walk and everything dies kekw

cobalt blade
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Its allowed between hc/sc

tranquil sedge
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wtf

halcyon flicker
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only have to resummon minions at times but thats about it

cobalt blade
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Just not standard

tranquil sedge
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why the fuck is that allowed

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coz hc can rip to sc?

split palm
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why is maven scamming me

cobalt blade
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Fucked if i know i just know its been confirmed allowed

cobalt blade
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Archnem

tranquil sedge
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oh right

cobalt blade
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Its just allowed

tranquil sedge
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even weirder

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fun

cobalt blade
calm yacht
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I'm getting a bit bored of breach beyond on my way to 100, any other good strats for XP? I want to try and get there without buying 5ways this time

tranquil sedge
halcyon flicker
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maybe im going crazy

cobalt blade
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shrug

halcyon flicker
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(high probability)

tranquil sedge
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next best would be i guess abyss + beyond?

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but idk how abyss loot is atm

cobalt blade
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shrines beyond

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imo

tranquil sedge
#

oh right shrines beyond

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u right

frigid wedge
tranquil sedge
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maybe not even beyond based on what fish said

frigid wedge
halcyon flicker
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I need a strat that prints 100s of standard t16 maps

opaque sphinx
#

?

cobalt blade
opaque sphinx
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tried to make a "tanky" hot

frigid wedge
halcyon flicker
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should I just go full deli cartographer and just add as much crap to maps as possible?

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
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forgot to go for divi

halcyon flicker
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I know this used to be really really strong with alva

cobalt blade
#

i feel like you should rly be going melding there

frigid wedge
#

so like, do i get to pick eagon or naw

split palm
#

why does maven moan when killed xd

split palm
cobalt blade
#

Although i guess it is kinda painful with light that's just rly painful use of mb flasks on an autobomber since losing silver flask

cobalt blade
opaque sphinx
cobalt blade
#

ngl wtf even is that

opaque sphinx
#

the lycia notable

cobalt blade
#

Oh

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Right ye that has more than just buff effect

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lol

calm yacht
split palm
#

those used to be a bit better ngl xd

wispy oyster
#

How do you guys deal with the challenge grind?

opaque sphinx
#

i tried the foulborn esh shield but without annhilating u do zdps no matter what with hot

frigid wedge
#

am i literally just slotting all of them

split palm
tranquil sedge
cobalt blade
#

Discern is personal pref its more arcanist/diviners less operative

tranquil sedge
#

decide if u even want 40/40

split palm
#

do you want to cope with diviners

cobalt blade
#

otherwise yea

tranquil sedge
#

because 40/40 is designed as a grind

#

36/40 is a lot more reasonable than 40/40

split palm
halcyon flicker
tranquil sedge
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

Tbh it hasnt been a grind for the past few leagues

tranquil sedge
#

overall, it still requires considerable playtime

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
#

okeee

halcyon flicker
#

and why does it multiply for each party member going in kekw that always cracks me up

split palm
cobalt blade
opaque sphinx
#

to do challs i generally just spend a month playing normally/making money (usually gets between 15-25)
then throw all my money at some fast MB build endgame project and push the rest

split palm
#

meow?

cobalt blade
#

super cursed in party

frigid wedge
#

mrow

cobalt blade
#

meoww

frigid wedge
#

mrrp

opaque sphinx
#

u can get all challs done with sub 100 hours played

halcyon flicker
opaque sphinx
#

but thats efficient playing

cobalt blade
#

i just do challenges tbh once i get bored since it takes fuck all time

tranquil sedge
#

im sitting at 20 something atm

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ill do them at some point before league ends

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rn on a several day poe break again lol

wispy oyster
tranquil sedge
#

like almost 2.5 months lol

opaque sphinx
tranquil sedge
#

more if it gets delayed

cobalt blade
opaque sphinx
#

i do a lot of master content for real

cobalt blade
#

i havent rly tried to get any kek

wispy oyster
#

I'm 26/40

spice pecan
#

OMEGALAUGHING

halcyon flicker
#

I think im like 19

opaque sphinx
#

even in other leagues i just cba

split palm
#

I am 37/40

halcyon flicker
#

most of these challenges just revolve around blowing currency anyway lol

frigid wedge
#

i always forget how silly this is

split palm
#

cba doing the 3 simple ones xd

halcyon flicker
#

i had one pop the other day when i dived something

split palm
wispy oyster
tranquil sedge
#

ye that's the only expensive challenge

halcyon flicker
#

wtf which map is worth 27div?

split palm
#

and you can also just

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split cost

tranquil sedge
halcyon flicker
#

yeah not complaining its just not something im doing

tranquil sedge
#

the doryani map one

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nothing else is particularly expensive

opaque sphinx
#

alva is pain in the ass to setup and i never do the giga juiced strats for her
jun is dead and gone to me cuz veiled benchcrafts dont come from her anymore
niko has always been dead content to me and always will be
einhar its just like why bother, tanky mobs with no extra loot that are worth 1c ea and i can bulk buy

split palm
#

replace it with HOG OMEGALUL

cobalt blade
halcyon flicker
tranquil sedge
split palm
#

so people know how nice it was to have dori

halcyon flicker
#

not like they're particularly expensive ig but yea

tranquil sedge
opaque sphinx
#

yeah some are worth more if u actually spec into it and shit

tranquil sedge
#

no

halcyon flicker
#

havent used a single coin

tranquil sedge
#

i mean even yellows

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they're 3d to 60 on tft

opaque sphinx
#

?

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oh maybe now

tranquil sedge
#

even earlier

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its been 3d to 60 for a while

opaque sphinx
#

fuck tft tho i never used that

tranquil sedge
#

and before that 2.smth

opaque sphinx
#

most i ever paid was 3c/beast

tranquil sedge
#

ye early league sure

opaque sphinx
#

nah even late usually

halcyon flicker
#

i only use tft when i have to bulk really

tranquil umbra
opaque sphinx
#

didnt buy much this league tho

halcyon flicker
#

buying 100 t16 maps is awful with standard trade

opaque sphinx
#

still shitty

cobalt blade
#

eh you just find someone whos listed a whole tab or 2 worth and toss in your regex

tranquil umbra
#

yeah I agree

cobalt blade
#

not that bad

astral brook
#

16.5 maybe

wispy oyster
#

What does a 5 way back shot run means ? And why is it 4 divines in trade chat?

opaque sphinx
#

even if yellows were 10c ea u couldnt make me deal with the annoyance that is menagerie or the mobs

cobalt blade
tranquil sedge
#

and 8mod maps

cobalt blade
#

or to buy maps for your mappers

halcyon flicker
split palm
tranquil sedge
#

remember that on pc its cheap, lol

tranquil umbra
#

my regex is kinda fucked up because I lose to the most random mods ever

tranquil sedge
#

raw t16s are what, 3-4c each?

astral brook
#

oh yeah my bad been asking alot of dumb questions today

cobalt blade
#

5-8

tranquil sedge
#

and a div is 340c or smth

astral brook
cobalt blade
#

at 8 mod

tranquil sedge
#

okay my point still stands

#

8mods are like 10-20c

cobalt blade
#

Idk non 8mod actually

split palm
tranquil sedge
#

plain t16s like 3-5c

halcyon flicker
#

actually its just an all around movement speed based farm. heist, good wishes, hideouts, gift to the goddess etc

split palm
#

don't wanna do it

cobalt blade
#

Trade site is just bad

tranquil sedge
#

ive been paying 15c+ most of the league

wispy oyster
cobalt blade
#

if you put max price at 8c you'll see 8c maps instead of the 10c trade recommends you

tranquil sedge
#

except once i got lucky and bought a couple hundred at 12c

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yea

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but then like

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odds of them having many maps isn't great

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i'd rather pay more per map with fewer instance hops

halcyon flicker
#

plus you just get ninja'd the whole time

#

better to up it a bit

opaque sphinx
#

why buy map

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just use 8 mod scarab and run 3 maps

#

have a quad

wispy oyster
#

I follow the alch and go strat

tranquil sedge
#

can do that yh

#

but i didnt wanna farm

opaque sphinx
#

fair

#

i find regexing and dealing with trading for maps more annoying than farming them except on leaguestart

cobalt blade
halcyon flicker
tranquil sedge
wispy oyster
#

What atlas trees you guys use?
Breach + beyond + originator?

opaque sphinx
cobalt blade
#

Mostly i just really hate how broken the trade sites been this league for 8 mods tbh

tranquil sedge
#

wdym

#

broken

opaque sphinx
#

whats meta build atm i need money

#

kboc still?

wispy oyster
#

BV right?

short prairie
#

wait

opaque sphinx
#

oh yeah

cobalt blade
#

as in if you dont set a max buyout it gives you more expensive maps

opaque sphinx
#

man

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fuck BV the gear is stupid easy to craft

#

no money in that

tranquil umbra
twin arch
#

@cobalt blade ok i cant afford spark

tranquil umbra
#

it's time to wardloop

short prairie
tranquil sedge
split palm
halcyon flicker
#

play animate weapon of ranged arms and do all content while mostly flying under the radar for expensive gear

stuck phoenix
tranquil sedge
#

you know how people in this game are 😛

opaque sphinx
short prairie
split palm
#

WAIT

#

WTF

#

citadel

#

is super profitable to run again

wispy oyster
#

Is delve worth doing?

cobalt blade
opaque sphinx
#

there's like 5-10d profit on most items if ur willing to wait 10 hours for it to sell

tranquil sedge
#

i knew shika was gonna pop off seeing that drop kek

split palm
#

WTF

frigid wedge
#

lul

cobalt blade
#

quick example and its mostly 5c or under maps

opaque sphinx
#

just not worth it for the effort

frigid wedge
#

im dyin to fuckin ignites

tranquil sedge
#

understandable

full kraken
frigid wedge
#

kekw

cobalt blade
split palm
#

nevermind

#

poo ninja fucking jebaited me

opaque sphinx
#

its just the fact that the gear is pretty much all eldritch and basic ass shit like fire res and life regen

halcyon flicker
stuck phoenix
# cobalt blade

The game intentionally does not let you make a search for all items in the entire game. Because that'd be way too expensive in terms of server infrastructure.
So it caps results when your search is too broad.
10000+ matched means you need to make a more narrow search to not miss results.

opaque sphinx
#

u can crank them out fast so no profit in it

short prairie
split palm
stuck phoenix
split palm
#

sorry for the bait

#

it's meh

short prairie
#

i need shaper uniques

opaque sphinx
#

we need more complicated/non unique using builds to be meta

#

no reason at all

short prairie
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

its happened significantly more this league from every map being generic though

stuck phoenix
tranquil umbra
halcyon flicker
tranquil umbra
#

cowb is 11d yes

full kraken
#

If I were to guess GGG is paginating on a different value and this causes skips to happen, where its "double" paged do to weird behaviors in joins producing inner query problems.

Shows up when you write a query in a query, or use a window table and nest a query on that.

So instead of paginating the whole db, you just paginate a "chunk" of it

Its a common bug tbh

opaque sphinx
#

damnit do i have to play the game to make money

stuck phoenix
meager glade
#

god i hate sanctum

stuck phoenix
tranquil umbra
split palm
stuck phoenix
#

What would you rather, just not get any results at all if your search is too broad?

split palm
#

poe ninja did not update price yet for cowb

halcyon flicker
#

there is also budget kboc necro

split palm
#

so it uses the older one

meager glade
tranquil umbra
#

shika

#

check the trade site

twin arch
#

what IS this

split palm
#

can't force updaste my spreadsheet

halcyon flicker
#

that looks like a poe2 tree lol

split palm
tranquil umbra
#

ok

full kraken
# stuck phoenix No idea what you're talking about but it's not what the other person is having a...

Its possibly it, basically imagine if I go to paginate a query but first my outer query grabs only 1/5th of the db, and then we paginate only that 1/5th

But that 1/5th is basically random.

then the next query gets a different pseudo random slice and you get page 2 of that

They sorta look like they line up, but you get weird glitches where records show up twice, or you are sorting but it has breaks on tge sort like

9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
11
9
9
11
11
12
cobalt blade
split palm
#

not worth running at all

twin arch
#

SPARK OF THE NOVA???

short prairie
#

aint no way back to back

rancid sluice
twin arch
#

9 LINK GLOVES????????

tranquil umbra
#

are you calculating the /map by considering the chance

stuck phoenix
meager glade
#

i have more than enough dps

rancid sluice
#

ah ok

stuck phoenix
#

Or rather, "suffering" from

cobalt blade
meager glade
#

i hate the rooms where it spawns the uniques one by one

full kraken
#

@cobalt blade is this sorta what you have seen?

cobalt blade
#

like i do just "fix" the search myself takes no effort

split palm
stuck phoenix
split palm
#

when they were 20d/pop

full kraken
cobalt blade
#

It shows oldest listings first

full kraken
#

Or, vise versa

split palm
split palm
#

linked in my profile

cobalt blade
#

and the older listings happen to be the more expensive ones

tranquil umbra
split palm
#

it's even pinned

cobalt blade
#

it reaches a limit and sorts by cheapest of those oldest listings lol

stuck phoenix
tranquil umbra
#

bold of you to assume anyone checks pins

split palm
#

for the purpose of figuring out best map to run

halcyon flicker
#

makes sense

#

databases are a nightmare in general

split palm
stuck phoenix
tranquil umbra
full kraken
#

@cobalt blade whats more likely causing this is you are shrinking the search space which removes the weird sharding problem

Just to test it out: instead of setting a max price, insead set some other limiter thatll greatly lower the search results, like specifying 1 specific mod so you get like 1/10th the results back

Can you link me an example search you do? Ive experienced this bug on trade site countless times and Im confident its what I think it is

stuck phoenix
ruby geyser
#

It seems like no matter what I've done for defenses on my evasion build, I have yet to prevent the random one shots with it.

full kraken
stuck phoenix
#

No

full kraken
#

Mind you, its quite challenging to do pagination right

stuck phoenix
#

The search grabs 10000 matches

frigid wedge
#

i love the spawn patterns in jv

opaque sphinx
#

woah they updated the graphics on a bunch of the body armour mtx

frigid wedge
#

they make 0 sense

stuck phoenix
#

Then stops looking

cobalt blade
full kraken
opaque sphinx
#

the kalgurran runesmith one actually looks decent now

stuck phoenix
full kraken
stuck phoenix
#

And sort by them

cobalt blade
ruby geyser
full kraken
#

Its indeed a bug, or at least Id classify it as a hack to fix the problem

Because the proper fix is very challenging to do right

opaque sphinx
#

damnit all these chests actually look cool now and i still can't use any of em

limpid prairie
full kraken
#

And what ggg does is the way easier way to get it 99% right but it does have this funky behavior

stuck phoenix
#

You can't create indexes to sort by because you can sort by weighted sums of literally anything

halcyon flicker
#

databases are always such a pain. if the database is too slow, the queue on the dbc server fills up and then you're going to run into major memory limitations. if the server crashes when the write queue has not been completed to the db you get the dreaded rollbacks

full kraken
opaque sphinx
#

why is flying animation only attached to the 2 kirac pass chests sad

full kraken
#

And its possible whatever db ggg uses doesnt easily support that feature

cobalt blade
#

wasnt there one in a box at some point

full kraken
#

If they use postgres its pretty easy

#

But sql server... not so good at it

frigid wedge
#

full mirage map

opaque sphinx
#

idk there was 1 dlying effect from 1 earlier kirac pass i remember

halcyon flicker
#

the game im working on uses mssql so rip kekw

opaque sphinx
#

flying*

halcyon flicker
#

easily the worst one

stuck phoenix
#

I honestly don't believe you can index in a way to let you sort every existing item that has ever been listed

#

without that being a massive drain

limpid prairie
stuck phoenix
#

on every possible stat

#

and every possible combination of it

ruby geyser
# frigid wedge full mirage map

Word I sometimes run jungle it's always back and forth. The altars are better in the valley you don't have to rush the boss

stuck phoenix
#

where any stat can be any weight

full kraken
# stuck phoenix Doubt

We have entered the territory of what I do for a living.

Vectorizing search indexes for multi wing search trees is... not easy and kimda esoteric but possible. Just... does require you to be very familiar with linear algebra nuances

cobalt blade
halcyon flicker
cobalt blade
#

every item with every stat

#

But also pixxel your not accounting for the fact they need to handle the mess that is standard

full kraken
#

Like you gotta be in the headspace of treating stat mods like multi dimensional vectors and your search query like a cartesian plane

halcyon flicker
#

if you can determine before your search which ones to filter, that takes off a lot of load

rancid sluice
# opaque sphinx flying*

you talking about the floating? the king of farudin or whatever in the packs does it too, but yeah last leagues maven does as well

cobalt blade
#

Its way too much to index everything lmao

full kraken
#

And your search is finding the closest points in this multi dimensional space

stuck phoenix
#

I don't believe you can do this

opaque sphinx
#

but why cant we just like

#

buy the effect

#

why it gotta be locked to body armours n shit

rancid sluice
#

thatd be nice

opaque sphinx
rancid sluice
#

the maven set last league is pretty sick in general it shades really well with character effects

opaque sphinx
#

nah what

full kraken
full kraken
#

Its like a whole entire wing of database engineering

empty horizon
#

is there anyone who can help me regear my build? i have the money, just need help finding similar items

opaque sphinx
twin arch
full kraken
#

But, definitely more esoteric, and ggg's approach is way simpler and probably "good enough" for them 99% of the time and doesnt require hiring a specialist for it XD

ruby geyser
limpid prairie
#

if i use a "mirrored rare" scarab does it affect the mirage?

twin arch
#

I cant tell if it has clear or st

opaque sphinx
coral summit
#

aite, so i tossed this together but literally half the build's damage depends on if enmity does not brick celestial mathematics https://pobb.in/56RbASAoVXmO

cobalt blade
stuck phoenix
coral summit
#

if it does, you would just go invert the rules and a second rare ring instead of enmity

opaque sphinx
#

am i really debating buying a 40$ cape that i can ride like a magic carpet

limpid prairie
opaque sphinx
#

really ggg

#

kinda

halcyon flicker
#

I think most databases are horribly inefficient to begin with

#

but unless you have petabytes of ram to burn theres not really any alternative

stuck phoenix
short prairie
#

finally

opaque sphinx
#

godamnit it actually looks fuckin cool too

short prairie
#

but i drop this before apostate

tranquil sedge
opaque sphinx
halcyon flicker
rancid sluice
#

@opaque sphinx my maven setup

full kraken
stuck phoenix
karmic gust
#

that annoys me the most about those mtxes

karmic gust
#

that you dont start flying instantly

opaque sphinx
full kraken
ruby geyser
#

Some can argue that some of these cosmetics are a tad over priced. But can't complain for a free game

stuck phoenix
short prairie
stuck phoenix
cobalt blade
tranquil sedge
rancid sluice
tranquil sedge
#

and then you get those cash amounts worth of points too

opaque sphinx
spring kestrel
#

does anyone know how to search for exceptional gems?