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fuck this game
yes but you havent actually made 100 div in an hour lmao
oh nice i saved it
I actually did do 100d in an hour unironically
Like the concept of calculating non contiguous reward/hr is extremely useful for calculating if adding detours to existing strats is worth it or not
Ye ive done more running valdos
Till the COWB fucking went - 75% next day
lol
But you haven't phrased most of your statements to make it clear that this is the argument
It was basically zero invest strat
Item level makes shiny more shiny.
Monster level gives you stiches
well sure, but that's not what you set out to prove
And unironically worked
nobody ever contested whether it was a worthy detour
You were trying to prove heist is 20m gold an hour or whatever or that its "the best gold/hr in the game"
Neither of whichcan be true
Youd uave to factor in the time spent on the whole detour every map.
Which is about 8s or so, cuz you gotta kill the 3 dudes, wait for her to spawn, click her menu, and read it every map.
And then the added time when you get a hit.
And that totals up to about 70 div/hr total
As I said earlier, this is a stupid argument
...well yeah. One is level of monsters and one of items. Monster level tells you how many items drop, item level how good
I say 5 seconds because i can clear the whole mirage in that time
Because both sides aren't arguing about the same thing
It is stupid ye
i run eater influence and pick up the invite every 28 maps. 1d (idk prices) for 10 seconds = 360d/h. this is the highest div/h strategy in the game.
astrolabes are best money in the game then, 5s to open curios that drop valdos, 720 div/hr
A detour is not worth it if the value it provides is less relative to the time spent doing the content
holy
HOLY
So if your existing strat makes more than 70div/hr, you can then calculate "adding in thus detour lowers my div/hr total"
If you make less, then you know "adding in this strat raises my div/hr"
Hi naca btw
hiiii
do you think we think this is what anybody was talking about at all
^
There is a good reason no one does gold in heist like you.
This is indeed explicitly what I was talking about, yes
well you must have been in a different chat
Imagine Witchcan.
It is large trashcan where witch go to sit when emo depression hits her harder than firestorm of meteors
guys I make 5 div per hour am I winning
the whole thing im pointing out is you cant take a 5 second detour to calculate x per hr
First and foremost, heist fucking sucks
The entire discussion was started by my own statement
I'm well aware that he's been talking about this for the entire time
And yes this is exactly what I was talking about
He just hasn't made it clear at all from the start
My current money maker is stuffing @stuck phoenix into a locker and taking his lunch chorbs.
This kind of shit
What the
Its the simple question of "Is <detour> worth it?"
Lunch chorbs
The gold per hr is the highest in the game.
Hwat
I wish I excluded "into a locker" by accident but my brain actually short circuited.
Sounds like an accident
Afaik it is, though maybe some stats are higher but cost exceptionally more than 0c
It better have been an accident
🤨
They don't
Xddd
I suppose a more accurate statement would be the most efficient gold per hr, cuz it costs 0c but puts out 18mil/20mil per hr
It's over for me.
Indeed
They're taking me out back and putting a crossbow bolt between my eyes.
Wow
True but I dunno how much gold/hr rotas make when uou factor in the process of actually gathering ppl
all you need is just having good iir
something something non continuous
and it's insanely profitable
cost efficient*
I assume gathering ppl takes q huge chunk out of the gold/hr
@cobalt blade how do I get a 2r1g1b in acts??? Do I benchcraft it?
Contiguous but yeah
If you need gold, you can also just sell organs. Piety will buy whatever chunk of meat you bring her. I sold her piece of crab as human liver
I am going to die arent I
wha
I thought metamorph got removed 
You already know his argument was about detours.
The detour here of gathering people would be as opposed to the strat solo.
broke my spreadsheet, again.
its like a minute or 2 to fill for a set of maps people usually join for more than one anyway
Thats actually pretty good
What do they clock in at per hr
and when your making 2-3m a map thats quite fucking good
Why do you think he's like that?
pick it up?
pixxel's argument has made it so all our strats dropped in efficiency by introducing a detour for the dumbest convo ever
Because bird
I dunno. I don't play run escape
dropped my brain efficiency fr
Objectively true, time spent arguing in discord is indeed time spent not farming
mhm
Unless you are playing twisters and can do both at once 
Every delve node makes me afk for 1min
I'm about to farm infractions because of this conversation.
literally changed nothing and it threw a 404 pog
I dont need to do farming.
I just hired 67 people all farming pumpkins
Oh fuck where did the gold go
Maybe ratelimited?
Thats the real reason I play twisters BTW, it makes it do I dont have to choose between farming divs and arguing on discord, I can have both!
I sell Bestel's poems for $
shouldn't be the case, I hope
will i relive my glory days
GL!
Good luck good luck.
Should that not be 429
it is a major part of the calculator xd
tragedy incoming
POV : Summon Skeleton
knowing the codes by heart, damn
Shrug. I dunno
lets fucking go.
holy
thats how you recomb baby
Believers win again.
just land the 31.5% chance to win

Ima be real i have no clue why i still know them havent done a networking course in forever
the fuck
shout out to flo wars and pixxel
huh.....
now divine it to perfect
2 mageblood this league xd
volatile time 
I believe I can flyyyyyyyyyy
Yet if I try
I will fucking dieeeeeeeeeeee
ok
I am stupid
Hello stupid
those bars visualize how i feel about golem builds
i'm in hotel for work trip and i'm itching thinking about poe
Dude. Screenshot the 3 dead ones...
might just write a bunch of theory craft methods out for people
Oh wait nmd
=ImportJSON(https://poe.ninja/api/data/itemoverview?league=Mirage&type=SkillGem%22,%22/lines/name,/lines/variant,/lines/chaosValue%22,%22noHeaders,noTruncate
clearly is NOT THE SAME AS
=ImportJSON("https://poe.ninja/api/data/itemoverview?league=Mirage&type=SkillGem%22,%22/lines/name,/lines/variant,/lines/chaosValue%22,%22noHeaders,noTruncate%22)
ok why the fuck
here is the dead one 

Mmm
They are low on battery. There is butthole on bottom. For lighting one just shove in 9v battery, earh one needs charcoal, and dont even ask what nature one needs
now I restore the not restored version
need solar powered golems. sun always shine in wraeclast
wait, what
how the hell do you do zigguat catarina? i spawn in ontop of the degen lines and seem to insta die ?
use sinistral and dextral scarab and go ham
Frostblink away from them or wait?
dont touch the degen lines
have u seen the crawling skellies?
one shot her
if you dont have heavy life regen cat fight really needs you to dodge all the ground degen
unless ur build name is palsteron slayer
I cant see anything lol theres so much going on
Get solar powered golem.
Summon holy relic.
Order golem to carry relic around.
INFINITE POWER
bro zigg is the only boss i know the patterns of
besides fortress
and lycia
okay thats the majority
lmao
your in grace for 10 seconds after going thru the door just blink instead of moving
what the actual fuck
I teleport to here and also die almost instantly from some kind of drain. I dont see anything on the ground
if your build instant degens
ngl bro i think ur build is kinda cooked
that green puddle on the ground that's a degen dawg
this puts a degen circle on the floor
idek what im looking at
your meant to lure it into the corners as you kill the liches but noone rly does it
Ah the green circle outline
yeah
if u like
the cane in the ground
130m/h i already told ya
tbh with u fix your build before you touch her
but taht degen shouldn't kill you lol
after every miniboss of hers you kill, she throws her scythe down for that big circle degen : go stand near an edge so its there rather than in the middle of the arena
I love that degen here means your life is going down instead of "you are horny weeb"
it triggers when you kill lich so you sit in corner kill it wait for voiceline
No, an hour is 60 minutes, not 130. Smh 
And its 100% consistently going there
Or alternatively, 130 meters per hour? You're slow
Imagine playing poe from the planet earth 
dang doesnt miss Ziggyd 🥀

wait, is the fucking poe ninja api dead
poeninja is up
I miss ziggydeez

Talking of voicelines, everyone needs to play witch at least one.
She is as sane as she is busty but like in kinda charming way like Joker or Harleyquin. She is absolutely crazy and would murder milions without remorse but in such a lovely way you cheer her on
@cobalt blade well I think I got 5 natty 4l's before a9 and I spent like 15 chromes and 10 gambles and didn't get my colors so idk how I'm meant to play the game
idk its you so go do more act 1-5 runs or smth
fml

but also like you dont need perfect links lol
what the fuck?
the API is indeed fucking dead
Check vendor
Make sure to only chroma good bases for chroma odds
Force a 4l
I am serious. She is comedically psychopatic
i like witch voice lines and when she holds 2h she looks like saber
it's either 3l with a +levels dagger or 4l with the correct colors
https://poe.ninja/api/data/itemoverview?league=MIRAGE&type=SkillGem
like actually dead
Smh you killed it
"Someone redecorated. I like it"
I was so fucking done. Whole place was on fire lmao
what do u think is good for 2r1b1g
im split between armor/EV or pure armor
I mean str dex or str int
seems to be using that url now if u grab it from ninja itself by opening skill gem page and dev tools>network tab
Zero armor 100% health
rip
time to hack the mainframe
wait
Waiting...
wait'nt
If you vibecode it, it wont even compile, but microslop will think you are cool
im boss rushing nightmares rn i need this spreadsheet to tell me if im wasting my time
changing the way the api is called is smart
Is there channel, or subbredit or something where people circlejerk hideout builds ?
(no)
+giverep naca
Goddamit
there should be
a subreddit
damn, citadel still the best
🧋
igenuienly want to say some bullshit like
let's not talk about sanctuarry
search hideout artisans subreddit
Would you happen to know its name please ?
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Ah
hmmm, maybe I add the % benefit to use frags
Thank you
😄
do you have the atlas tree/quant oer map used to test these listed there
took the average on 8 mod maps with a full quant atlas
should mention it somewhere tbh
my personal experience has definitely not seen an average of 2 and change across the board. i left aboms because the drops were so low. not a ton of difference regardless ill stick to what im doing
that's the only random factor tbh
I took an average quant tho
and the frag count per quant is taken from a different sheet
yer its a rly good data sheet for actually farming
the most important thing here is that synth frags are probably skewered tp have less than a 50% weight. 40% is what I assume
everything else is 50% / 33%
shika out here doing everything for nightmare farming knowing full well he gets less hourly than a 50d toxic rain in lab
sans

citadel is currently 60d+
plus it's not like I actually run them xd
:/
how is citadel tops when the cosmic's cost is so low compared to others? just the amount that drops?
the exceptional gem
cast on ward break
they're supposedly a 5% drop rate for the gems tho idk how accurate that is
that's the supposed rate
its accurate, my vibe can confirm it
ive been running fort since decay is fairly decent and its almost a guaranteed drop it feels like
shame my build cant consistently do citadel in 1 portal
personally fine doing anything other than citadel 
i occasionally die too lol
its layout is so ass
i only die if i allow the game to let me die
ok mr blocks every beam
and i allow it a lot of times
bs the beams still slow you after blocking
slows and beams yeah lots of fun there
guess what
my 0.8m jewel setup
meow
money shredding strat
yer i run accel shrine belt tho
yeah that's lovely naca, i if dont hit my nearly frame perfect key tap to prevent my frostblink echoing i just fuckin, poof
is it time for echoing belt # 2
fair pain
I bought at 290 or so
my accel shrine dropped to 190d
im guessing you dont have the gem slot to run a regular fb for that
wtf
not rlly no
mine dropped to 3m ): after buying it at 2.2 and it going up to 7
Completely sane prices
i get 1 tapped by wall beams
fair enough rips
wasn't accel always around that? just above mb
it went to 300 at some point
yeah then it skyrokceted and stayed for a while at 290d
me omw to price check my bis 15d timeless
accel was 1m for a few hours
yer it tanked fast for single
45 
and I uhhhh
🎉
holy
big price
considering every notable i can allocate with single point is amazing its really cheap
its 3 40% crits and frenzy gen

was an escape one right?
ah ye nice
I just keep losign moeny doing feared xd
as in not single point without escape xd
yee
hmmmmmm
i wonder if its reasonable to use acrobatics IE to drop right side pathing and go for more mana/cluster at top right
grab pierce/+1 proj
wow
its kinda just like MoM and PA that are expensive 
was like 90d last league
CI is 80c
WHAT
YEP
and good poison nodes
God I gotta figure out how to get +1 jewel socket lol
its aura effect and whispers
and aura effect
lol
genuiely half the escapes that are normally worth smth are just worthless rn
xd
and its just mom/pa
love svalinn fake ehp
like max res one
dirt cheap
also rage on hit didnt actually realize thatwas in radius
Im worried kf is gonna get twisters nerfed by proxy 💀
everything is now less duration

avatar of fire has 2 all max res
Cuz yeah MoM is $$$$ for the reduced dur
ye this has 3
can also take the small maxes if you rly want
Yee that one
I have this little setup with my escape
That shit carries my spell block cap hard
I like perfect agony impossible escape with elegant hubris in the ranger/shadow cluster socket
i have that for 40 crit multi and 3 3% es per power
117% inc es not too bad
wait no its 4%
so 156?
kek
why can guardian maps be less than t16 is my question
now u got different error
the idea was to run it in a shaped region
then get t16 map
and price diffrence between a t15 and a t16 is like 100 chaos per one
and i bought all of this ones
I wonder why...
oops
lmao standard pricing
common its not the first time one item level means huge price diffrence
And it's not the first time it's justified
well kaalgur mappers fodder then
wat
shaped deli region + beasts + plus maven invitations all crafted to 110 quality chisseled then double corrupted with bestiary result huge drops
270-300 quant maps
1-2 div a map , ocasional vultures , 300 shards one simulacrum a map and 5-7 deli orbs
yes
seems like a lot of efforrt for not that much honestly but im not in standard i dont know
ew first of all
you dont even see which beast it is cause of
the fog
and second of all
breach exists
beast delirium in strand , with maven invitations on citadels maps elder maps
i cant see the beasts at all cause of my build
so i kill em all
i suppose everything + beasts in standard
pick them all
15-20 chaos a piece
14 div a vulture 3 div black morigan , then 3 div the craicic chimeral
then some hundreds chaos 100-200 the rest important beasts
and i farm everything on this kind of maps when im out of elder map
this my atlass
its only when you have elder maps
thats sirus/conqueror not elder 
juicy but be carefull to buy t16 maps
Is flicker build still a thing i saw a video on it and it seems fun (idk about how good but does look fun)
dont be cheap like me and buy t15
this
yea
oh
he is corect the name of the map not me
flicker glad kinda popular this league, reliquarian kinda niche
slayer still best by far
K thanks hope it is still by next league still going through the game for the first time (at t13ish maps need to progress that more)
is there any way to get more than 26 fort as champ without celestial brace
madness boots
volatile vaal
awkward
focus
hmm, replica badge might work
but you get so much from brace
since i'm not getting ashes any time soon
btw you save a point dropping those 5 and pathing middle
since i doubt you care for those blight points
https://pathofpathing.com/ from lily's bio, i think its supposed to show optimal pathing for a desired atlas tree, if i understood it right?
yer if you set it up right
its pretty cool
personally though
i think its better if
they add subway surfers on the side
O_O
Good evening everyone.
sup cuh
pog
+8d
Got 250c to finish my flicker.
mirrors cut out of ss smh
theres none 😂
in inventory now
Didn't you have a fuckton of currency like a week ago xd
bloo
Yes
i smell a flicker
What is your purpose
I did, almost 2k div.
But the TS gear i crafted and such.
Made me lose like 1.5k
They should give it 3000% DE so i can run it as a damage skill
Took 5 days to sell everything, by lowering prices 😂
ruthless mode
bro is tweakin tf out
Yeah, one of my fav builds.
just never did it since like necro
the debuff
sans and not scrolling .1 mm up to see the message/context 
I feel like anyone who doesn't like flicker has no soul
Too much caffine be like.
2 ascendancy points for a shock that takes 300% more effort to apply 
no problem 
i dislike flicker bc it does such a poor job at what its advertised to do
the less dmg dealt is nice
I want to like it cuz funny but what were they cooking
i'd play flicker if i could unlock camera
what is it advertised to do
what are some low intensity build you would recommend for a controller player? I get nauseous when it's laggy
actually get from point a to b fast, it doesnt, my 4L wintry on a completely unrelated build clears faster and more efficiently
rf

most builds don't lag the game
it's mostly league mechanics
when you combine like 3 of them they can take a shit on your fps
Okay, 100c left for gloves. I got this 
em i sure like how my kb isnt the cause of lag when i hh ice prison but its actually the fault of some league mechanic 😛
it is, nemesis fault!
hmm, i wonder how i'm supposed to do breach fortresses with smite before i get turbo damage
where are the damn beyond bosses
u use lsoa
a question as old as time
the time i tried to play with it on int acc stacker id get thrown into a corner from some mob being there and have to awkwardly walk/whirl close enough to the next pack
no i dont have the keystone allocated
so i get exactly what you mean 
ooh didnt think about that, doesn't that need gmp tho
it wants GMP yeah
can always just get an imbue
do you do empowered mirages or nah
to save effort on swaps
Anyone tried frenzy of onslaught ?
i mean just link it in main link no
volatile incoming
well actually are you on breach or deli
if you are clearing anyway
gmp imbue is rly bad for dmg especially in an ssf enviroment
ye but then u gotta swap 2 gems when ur swappin for bossin
big less dmg mult compared to running it
just dont boss then

no swap needed
also yea idk why ppl like imbuing gmp so much
is the clear of something like sodj significantly worse than lsoa?
well you need to keep up stacks on static strike right
yeah it was just for qol
smite isnt offscreen clear but i personally prefer it
sodj is smite of divine judgement
ye
oh stupid abbreviations
mostly just looking for a better skill to gem swap for breach fortresses specifically
I'm actually considering it :PohxU:
oh yeah smite is great in there
I would like to play a minion build in HC, anyone can recommend one? I'm open for necro or even temp guardian
you hit basically everything with +2 strike
absolution guardian
regular smite is probably no good for it
hmm
i ran it on my cursed elementalist smite setup
i need armor xd
had about 30-40m
necro is way better
do you know a good build guide? I'm still like to follow a build as poe freshman 🙂
guardian is just good in campaign
captainlance9 made one for the gauntlet event, still perfectly good for regular poe
Guardian is still very viable brah
not me forgetting dp on the dp strat
had decent aoe and 4 strikes
especially in HC because Sentinel is 20% dr
cleared fortress flawlessly with minimal movement on reg smite
who playing hardcore
I'm not reading
3.28 TEMP UPDATED Current Profile + Path of Building Info
https://pobb.in/r_uWEnjftodm
"Vaal Absolution: Ascended Sentinels of Absolution now deal 300% more Damage (previously 200%), and have a base duration of 20 seconds (previously 15). Ascended Sentinels of Absolution now have 44% more Area of Effect with their Lightning Blast cascade Skil...
perma vaal abso in HC yeah ok man
mf blocked half the chat ofc his ass isnt fucking reading
he's new he's not gonna be playing hc
right of passage or smth
oops meant to turn ping off
i love how killing yourself
let him make up his own mind
both builds are good
is optimal in feared
theres a surprising amount of content its optimal in
hello poers, does it cost a lot to get RF relatively zoomey vroomy?
king too
I will 🙂 have 3 90lvl chars in standart mirage, now I want to try HC with a minion build 🤣
depends
sirus heist king of the mists if your eu/bad loadscreens
but I consider myself still a new poe player 😄
3 level 90's nice
you crushing it lol
good luck in hc
lol I know I'm a noob 🙂
i realise i could probably profit just vendoring for ele pen support
always room to grow
does anyone know how to fix this
bestiary prison time, woooooo 
92 strands is wild
try restarting
you mean my pc?
p sure that just means smth from the game files is open and a restart should close any app that might have it open
yer
Well, that or a different program like a third party antivirus grabbed it
ye
surely
ngl i forgot about those since i cba to set one up on linux 
best protection is common sense anyway
we luv syndicate
there is only like 1 antivirus for linux anyway and it doesnt rly do shit after trying it for few months :d
ye if you use common sense and dont run random shit/download sketchy extensions w/e youll be fine as a regular user
and it was indeed pain to setup :d
ye clamav thats the name
time to do some valdos
whats the middle number
does it not say on the map device mouse over? in mtx/hideout decoration tab
I love how "Large Chest" with your first support gem on twilight strand is LITERALY IN CHOKEPOINT so you cannot possibely miss it no matter how fucking stupid you are
10/10 game design
You're also forced to dismiss something or open the passive tree
So you gotta be actively sabotaging yourself to miss it
I feel like it's different
i remember trying to talk to him before picking it up since i was curious if it would let you just punch it to death
or if there was a failsafe
I find it funny. First you have completely idiotproof game design, relatively easy bunching bag...and then they tell you to open skill stree so 90% of players get scared and alt+f4 that shit
still love watching new players reactions to that
especially since its just complicated at first glance and very understandable once you break it down
IT'S GOLD, JERRY
Yeah it isnt that difficult...It is just lot of skill trees layd on same 2D surface instead of 30 tabs
what even is a good kulemak 😭
what is a stupidly good bosser + hella tanky for 1-1.5mir
+2 support explode one 
BV chief
You can cut out islands and mentally categorize it into skill trees...Here you have elementalist skill tree
It isnt that hard when you cut it into smaller islands
Probably some bv minion pact variation
@karmic gust papa death beam did you make a funny bv build?
Chieftain, gladiator, etc
poe ninja char called nottheflasks
or smth
Ye tho i sort it by a mix of spell nodes cold phys chaos dot etc in my head
hi, is there a way to get orb of fusing fast im at level 57 rn
why minion pact tho
bc its bullshit for dmg
minion pact snap shot bv and its bs
vendoring 6sockets for jewellers into converting those to fusings at vendor
(but also what do you need fusings for at 57)
bc its deathbeam
Query: do expeditions in poe1 also have gold caches you can blow up?
Or is that a poe2 only feature
Think 2 only
ty it worked
GGG should've cooked a bit more on introducing gold imo
Too much stuff in the game isnt properly wired up to it
Yeah. Just after Diablo, Torchlight and such you need to tune your brain into thinking on 2D plane instead of vertical scrolling tree on few tabs
Actually fuck it that isnt tree. From now on I am calling it Skill Web
mirage is
good bit of that is intentional
Lab, delve, expeditions.... etc
Skill forest
mirage is like "have gold"
imagine lab having a gold entry fee 😭
If you compare to poe2, I disagree.
In poe1 it feels like an afterthought with lots of stuff forgotten.
Like ggg only just recently fixed beasts for example
but yeah no adding extra gold to other content wouldn't really do much you still just get it from like monster drops and containers and it's kinda fine
alright lads. i need a new hardcore build suggestion. ranger died so i need something new to work on XD.
anything but ranger
not-ranger is probably a good start for hc
Whereas poe2 its "first class" supported in everything intrinsically
Heh I like that...Small masteries are bushes, large masteries are trees, and this fucker is military assult explosive squirrel
And that fucker is bad because minions 
well i mean. i got to A10 and got one tapped lol so i need something new
money?
p sure theyve stated the lower gold from some content is intentional lol
like lower gold for sanctum runners
I consider that personal attack. Nothing beats me and the bois looking for vaal orbs at 3am
cba to go dig thru interviews tho
🥀 eventually youll recognize minions bad
Guys wtf? I just got a lost shipment but i didnt skilled the node? and no i did not unskill it
why is chaos a tink
also do you have this
did you map have random notables?
oddly fairly high
I dunno count the notables and divide by five
it needs to proc that node then the 6%
and no chaos is not a tink ^^ i just have most currency white and then tinks are red
across like 6-8 ores or w/e thats not too unlikely tbh
Fuck this node tho its so troll it can pick the blocker for your mechanic
Set wisdom scrolls to tink, dopamine burnout in 3 maps
yea I really dislike how they changed the pathing there
but it saves so many points
imo not worth the point save for possibly bricking map lmao
they do
isn't there a +2 frenzy
also did a private league just started somewhere
?
I think I saw a youtube thumbnail
then I lost it
sirgog was starting one i think dunno if theres another
🤔 maybe i'll start last epoch run waiting that
Anybody ever buy a micro transaction of the site and it not come out of your account?
Problem I'm having here is that it won't let me buy anything else until I verify the temp amount it pulled. But legit, nothing has came out of my account 🤔
that just sounds like your bank refused the transaction?
or am i misunderstanding what your saying
It's weird because I do have what I originally paid for. Like $20 worth but even that wasn't ever taken out so not sure who to contact
kinda eh
are there any other builds that are as tanky as mp bv chieftain but arent that
compared to uh
also having endu charges stacking per frenzy
glad ephemeral edge is tankier

way lower damage though
I wanted to play frost blade, wild strike or reave 😎
could be fun on shadow
yeah im looking for like, sonething that can farm the feared easy
going es and stuff
valdo feared or regular feared
i was playing poison bv minion pact yes
uuh can definitely make a tanky enough slayer ele hit to do that easily
cant u just tri stack slayer tho and run ci
ehhhhh i didnt like ele hit slayer
ci slayer is viable
fair
I already done it once a frost blade of katabasis slayer
with es?
outta curiosity why poison bv over any other version
ive got about 500d to work with, plus another 150 or so if/when some gear sells
best clear for least amount of investment into clear
because db is a pf stan
what skills do you enjoy can make alota shit work and be tanky at tha budget
what u wanna be runnin tho
can you check dm rq wanna ask you smh
Yer cos they get all their damage for free and get to go full defence investment
sure
compared to EE glad which goes 90% defence damage just coming from es stack
Fross good
if you dont want to ever die do transcendence 90% res chief
I wanted to make something a bit new and different to me

so I can build
instead of just copy paste the same set up
how do you die 
me but its multi mirror and idk how it plays at budget rn
yeah is triple charge stack ci slayer smth u did already
i did fross a couple leagues ago so idk if i wanna do it again
ele hit goes dual stack with life
yes someone quit the league gave me his mirror slayer frenzy stacker and I played it for a while
it was very fun
I even crafted 5 link claw
and upgraded it
Me with 30k phys 50k chaos and 69k ele max hits don’t die easily
honestly i dont have a huge amount of recovery so i sometimes get combod out or worn down
so can i see it
doesnt its recovery for being multi hit come from defiance
Recover on block saves you
I just don't want to play something Im 100% sure it works and it's gnna be super strong
DoD op
idk maybe theres some upgrades i can do
Or just DoD
i'll see if I can find it but it's out of date
it also tends to be pretty high fire res for enmity ring so reasonable to click fire res regen mastery for a few points tbh
bc i meant a setup life this
lemme grab my pob
well it's already done anyway I have nothing to do myself
Is this the slayer set up
yes
You need to show jewels
95% of content is fine, im just not quite as immortal as cws was
so you want to make your own build
Yes
i rly dont like those malachais CI setups in general ngl
yeah at least significant part is mine
That slayer setup is solved
ye your losing out on bloodnotch recovery from not being cws bigger lifepool+dod offsets it alot though
so pick a skill u want and an interaction u want
even if it's nothing amazing for u
same locking yourself into pcharge ralakesh doesnt feel worth it to me after ralakesh nerf
it makes more sense if your absorption belt though
I guess that's a reason I dislike stacker
Real ones play jugg shocknova
u can make stackers interesting
isnt this like actual just good golem stacking and res shredding lol
here's my pob for the chief https://pobb.in/NaShwROJB0Au
12k phys max hits
I'm sure there are stuff I can do when I do one
not running life foulborn red nightmare or is pobbin reading it wrong?
phys max hit might be what's killing me yeah
thanks jun
can't find my settlers build it's too old
would have to give up block chance
no slayer
fair
https://pobb.in/eECESVFVgGZM mine in ssf 
anywya it was a regular frenzy life svalin slayer like there were many in settlers
Would value the life more personally with DoD but very much a personal pref
go make a voidforge blade trap of greatswords
actually I wanted to make a life stack bloodthrist build with one of the weapon that scale well with added dmg to the weapon (which is rare stat)
so I thought of starcaller
but there are other options
it was the first that came to mind
i would just drop dod there ngl
blade trap I always wanted to play it
what should i use instead?
and probs also anninhilations but thats debatable
so try it
just heist ammy
your life pool sucks ass and you have svalinn you dont need like both dod and svalinn
O btw point wasted there
I gueess I can''t combine blade trap and starcaller
I don't think they fit together lol
so use voidforge :P
yeah dod without like 6k~ life feels weakish
much better on the adorned setups i think
for bv pact
I find it fun when you have many stuff interacting it makes building more intersting
rational doctrine don’t exist
but i don't think set up with several abilities are popular
also seeing people skip the duration mastery idk why half of people do that :d
I remember me wanting to make a choir of the storm, foulborn mjolner build with saboter and all on on proc effect
for sure better than clicking this at least
mjolner had a choir of the storm too
mixed munitions blade trap of greatswords voidforge abyss stacker
i think i wanted the point elsewhere
Def not me
but that wasted point up top can go there
senses did u finish the 11 link
No I failed 2 recombs in a row, 7 affix recombs
I will think about it
i'll probably wait sirgog league
That seems so ass
are there any boots i should look into for this bv chief besides annihilations?
it's not bad if you throw traps that pop into mines that then explode 😛
🔥
rare boots with gem lvls for spectre is p common if you dont wanna do weapon swap setup
blade trap is dura based, u can abuse stormblasts or smth while its going thru that dura
I see
i'll see if i can find spectre level boots
actually i think greatswords just spins x times
abyss socket boots are also nice
which is even better
also do you not havee anti shock anywhere?
so i take it the idea is to get elder boots, elevate for +2, then try to corrupt for another +2?
Its like +socketed minion gems with +lvls from delve fossil or +2 spectre from elder
That is also a route you can go for sure if you dont care much for other stats ye
+2 socketed minion also being +2 to companionship
which is rly nuts
@frigid wedge
definitely interesting if there are nice stuff that lower my cast/attack speed
went and looked again she has tempest shield
oh right, idk why pob doesnt show that anywhere
yep
its at bottom in gems part on pobbin and shows in avoidances section on actual pob
what if i buy boots with +2 socketed, life and ms and then eldritch the suffixes?
oh i had it on this xd
seems reasonable depending on price ye
/goal of suffixes
Hey guys I'am very new to this game and I would love someone to help me a little bit 1 on 1 with it
-Thank you
actually theres boots with all 3, +2 fractured, and decent suffs for 7d
dumb question does it work with general cry ?
or mine
idt so?
i dont think they use your weapon
cant trigger stuff
dunno for mine but pretty sure gen cry cant trigger shit
even if tey could
thanks
oh
whats a cheap jiquani setup
