1┃general

[tranquil sedge]

true

and then the second thought will be - jonathan: how can we make this actively worse for players

[short prairie]

take the rule away and make everything non unique outcome?

no matter how many influence mods on it, 1 lock always = 1 outcome

[tranquil sedge]

that would be actively making it worse

that is all downside, zero upside

you gain nothing by doing it, because you'd still prep 3 bases for the hover, and you lose the potential to prep more if you wanted

(which is expensive, and effort, and not something you'd likely do anyway if you're just making a single item for the most part)

[sinful cove]

anyone running 5 ways or sellin them? i was at 49% to level 98 and died and now im at 0% trying to farm

[tranquil sedge]

TFT discord

[sinful cove]

yea i asked ther

[tranquil sedge]

and?

[sinful cove]

no respond, i think TFT is having issues since they changed

[tranquil sedge]

they are not having any issues

this is the 5 way channel

go there

[sinful cove]

ok ty

[tranquil sedge]

just look for a seller, dm them in game.

[short prairie]

he would do this

[tranquil sedge]

yep 🙂‍↕️

[short prairie]

you know what it is

https://klipy.com/gifs/bosnov-67--k01KPWBY9PEVF0R04K4DE5MVMPQ

[hard cliff]

expensooiv

[short prairie]

only 300 mirrors?

[dense rock]

how many inventories of chaos orbs is that 😄

[tranquil sedge]

atleast 3

[surreal mulch]

81 thousand

[drowsy eagle]

who tf is that

[opal ingot]

your exile that died to uber hillock

[dense rock]

a rare mob

with more aura than ytou

[hard cliff]

that's David

[drowsy eagle]

related to this guy I think

[dense rock]

Guys.... Something is wrong... I miss OLD volatile enemies

[short prairie]

i can jsut reset the lock base with a fusing or chromatic right?

[opal ingot]

yes

fusing chromes, blessed

[short prairie]

i only have 3 bases to check smh

[opal ingot]

as long as rolable implicit

[full kraken]

wait really? I thought I wouldve been done that ages ago

[opal ingot]

smh

you keep leaving your beasts hanging

[livid quarry]

whatca crafting sense

[lucid kiln]

it aint much but its honest work

[drowsy eagle]

orbe divino

[cedar yarrow]

It went up he had it listed for 200 lol

Like it was gonna sell at 200

[short prairie]

new 11 link

[livid quarry]

i got a new flicker build

so op next league

[cedar yarrow]

Mmm a fellow flicker enjoyer

[short prairie]

wdf

[cedar yarrow]

Welcome to the cult

[cedar yarrow]

Not bad

[livid quarry]

yeah lazy build

[cedar yarrow]

Can be much better tho

[split maple]

how hard it is to farm aul bloodline in ssf?

[stuck phoenix]

Pretty nice

Foul ex slam time?

[short prairie]

im not farming aul bloodline

[split maple]

answer the dude in global tho

[short prairie]

oh

[short prairie]

im not slamming that

ew

[stuck phoenix]

Why not

[short prairie]

it as lock check

[stuck phoenix]

Great for uh

Ele hit

[short prairie]

im not elehit

[stuck phoenix]

Ok sell it

[split maple]

solo self funded

[stuck phoenix]

I know

[opal ingot]

sell it to helena

[split maple]

hmmm does poo2 delay imply 3.29 delay

[low lava]

Hope not

[short prairie]

good joke!

[stuck phoenix]

Thank you

[short prairie]

you love to see it

3 influence mod suffix

[drowsy eagle]

time to pull the phrecia card

[opal ingot]

fuck me in the ass

[stuck phoenix]

Yes

[opal ingot]

they better not

phrecia merc

phrecia merc

[split maple]

maybe later

[stuck phoenix]

Phrerc

[opal ingot]

just dont do gauntlet campaign pease

[lucid kiln]

on my way

[stuck phoenix]

Gauntlet campaign is whatever

So long as it isn't hc

[opal ingot]

gauntlet campaign is gonna filter out the playerbase 🥹

[split maple]

hmm okay lets make a compromise

[stuck phoenix]

Good

[split maple]

hc without gauntlet

[stuck phoenix]

Cull the weak

[opal ingot]

holy

damn i was gonna get some crypto coins

[lucid kiln]

quickest mod ive ever witnessed

god damn

[stuck phoenix]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Cull_the_Weak_Support

[stuck phoenix]

I was looking at the wiki

You probably saw a bot

Robot wars

[opal ingot]

sorry that was me

[lucid kiln]

[opal ingot]

no bot

just me

doing the banning

[short prairie]

im not doing that

even if it's good for elehit

im stubborn for a flicker sword

[lucid kiln]

mfw i used an astrolabe but didnt take synthesised stability

[stuck phoenix]

Map variety

Go brrr

[lucid kiln]

real

[stuck phoenix]

You know

The atlas does actually

Have more than

1 map

[split maple]

yeah but only 1 is ok for breach

[stuck phoenix]

Ur breach

[lucid kiln]

i dont like doing strongboxes on fucking Bog or Arcade

[opal ingot]

lol

[stuck phoenix]

Get bogged

[split maple]

hey bog is allrite

its smoll at least

[opal ingot]

i love bog

mirage almost always spawns next to harvest

and i have good chances of getting the boss for astrolabes/mirage maps

though im starting to consider city square with the new boss patch

but iirc that shit does not have a better track record than bog for keeping mirage

[stuck phoenix]

Lul

[opal ingot]

u saw nothing

[split maple]

how many of thinking is there lol

[stuck phoenix]

Yeah

[steep sphinx]

I love boc

[split maple]

boc is a cult

[stuck phoenix]

Only saw it for long enough to put 5 thinking emojis on it

[split maple]

like everyone i know who likes it only likes it

[opal ingot]

my lord

[steep sphinx]

you either love boc or you utterly hate it

[lucid kiln]

okay I just did Bog and honestly it aint that bad

[split maple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWZy5o9Eq9U

need more cowbell

[steep sphinx]

relatable, I only like BoC, other builds feel ass

and I tried 5 this league

[steep sphinx]

not that boc

[stuck phoenix]

That's clearly not boc

It's böc

Smh can't spell

[drowsy eagle]

your spells are disabled

[stuck phoenix]

When someone calls ö o. That's like if I call a e.

[stuck brook]

what about ä or ô ?

[stuck phoenix]

Ä is also its own letter

We don't use ô so dunno if it is a letter

[drowsy eagle]

õ

[stuck phoenix]

We have å

[dense rock]

ö is much further from o than a is from e...

[stuck brook]

we use ô :)

[stuck phoenix]

Ok

[dense rock]

Ï

[stuck brook]

i was just being silly with some of slovak weird letters

czechs have some fun ones too like ů and ř

[drowsy eagle]

who uses ø

[dense rock]

engineers

[stuck phoenix]

Nobody important

[drowsy eagle]

xd

[stuck phoenix]

For legal reasons, this is a joke

[lucid kiln]

almost reported you

[stuck brook]

ikea

[stuck phoenix]

No

[dense rock]

this comment saved you from finding piss in your cereal 😄

[stuck phoenix]

This better be a joke

[short prairie]

wait

[split maple]

⍼

[short prairie]

i can actually take this

[drowsy eagle]

that was a fast bonk

[dense rock]

not even 4 supports

newb

[stuck brook]

esm wins, i dont have a clue what that is

[short prairie]

checking locks..

i can cannot roll attack remove that suffix

[split maple]

no one knew until 2024

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angzarr

[bold kelp]

Am I dumb, why are people using follow through on pconc still

isnt that shit 4 points for 100% inc damage, and nothing else

[stuck phoenix]

Isn't that a pretty decent ratio

[bold kelp]

Is that considered good in this economy

idk

[stuck phoenix]

Can you beat it?

[bold kelp]

With a 12p large yeah

[split maple]

isnt that a medium cluster anyways

[bold kelp]

Ye its a medium cluster

[split maple]

so 2 points

[bold kelp]

4 because you click the small before, jewel slot and notable

[split maple]

technically 3?

idk

[stuck phoenix]

Sounds like 3

[bold kelp]

oh wait 3 you can just not click the other notable

Me when I forgor

[stuck phoenix]

Surely you can get a second useful notable

[split maple]

33% incr per point sounds ok idk

[stuck phoenix]

With frog

[bold kelp]

you can fog it to a better base ye

im not entirely sure you want to be fracture fogging stuff on pconc of all builds tho

you can get 1 points 8% attack speed with repeater

[stuck phoenix]

Ez just don't fracture

[bold kelp]

Thats like considered ok right?

[stuck phoenix]

Just slam

[split maple]

well folks who sitll play pconc in second month of league

i think they do fog

idk whats their life like tho

[stuck phoenix]

Sounds ok

[stuck phoenix]

Busy last month

[bold kelp]

I also wonder why they nerfed follow through so hard, I know greater chain exists and all

but what were they scared of

SURELY it wasnt pconc

[bleak quiver]

its cuz of the new essence

it gives infinite chain

[bold kelp]

ah right

it'd count as infinite chain within 2m

[split maple]

werent pconc and cobralash the only builds using that pretty much

[bold kelp]

But im sure they would have a workaround for it

[bleak quiver]

so they deleted pconc and cobra coz of it

[bold kelp]

ye basically

Its funny because the essence is so dogshit unusable

It works the same way as fledgeling

Where close range is basically non existent because its based off projectile travel

Youll get like 1 or 2 chains off it maybe

[tranquil sedge]

because you only ever play pconc of bouncing and you stack chains on that, so ppl used the notable coz it was good

[bold kelp]

well it was good

[tranquil sedge]

The Follow-Through Notable Cluster Jewel Passive now grants Projectiles deal 20% increased Damage with Hits and Ailments for each remaining Chain, up to 100% (previously 15% increased with no cap)
this balance change was made by an idiot, but it just means you use different notables now too

[short prairie]

time for recomb sword

[bold kelp]

I feel like there was some internal balance test that identified something stupid broken with follow through and greater chain

And I'm doubtful it was cobra lash/pconc

[thick goblet]

didn't you finish your sword

[short prairie]

yes but that was the 2p 1s sword

now im gonna 2p 1s again but different mods

[tranquil sedge]

yea the correct fix would have been lower the value from 15%, to 10%

rather than raise and cap it

[short prairie]

and then boom recomb

[bold kelp]

caps are very unpoe-like when it comes to offensive stats

[short prairie]

if it fails then meh my project starts over

[bold kelp]

I can understand why caps are there for defensives

[tranquil sedge]

its not surprising though, to see dumb balance changes

ggg is historically dogshit at balance changes

on-release balance is whatever, its basically impossible to gauge impact on release

but post-release balance changes are just utter ass enough of the time

[stuck brook]

i feel like tehre are multiple instances of "gain x per y up to a limit" for offensive things, i just cant remember them

[tranquil sedge]

the issue isn't that there's a limit

its that the limit is so low lol

[stuck brook]

thats fair

[tranquil sedge]

and considering wat ppl actually used it for, it didnt need to be so low

[bold kelp]

There arent that many offensive limits right?

[tranquil sedge]

^

dunno

[split maple]

trying to think of more

[tranquil sedge]

rage is an easy example

[bold kelp]

mana spent is limited yeah

with stuff like indigon

[tranquil sedge]

can only gain on hit every 0.5s and its capped at 30 by default

[bleak quiver]

after 3 hours of: scrambling jewels, tattoos and mods to make new boots, planning how to craft the boots, searching for donor bases, buying suplies i notice i cant use it cuz it dsnt have space to craft freeze immunity...

[bold kelp]

Things that ramp are usually limited

[tranquil sedge]

ailment effect limits too

[tranquil sedge]

wats ur pantheon

[bold kelp]

But i'm more thinking about offensive stat limits on things that dont ramp

[tranquil sedge]

or general ailment immunity

[bleak quiver]

cws

[bold kelp]

Again, ramping, cant have it go actually infinite.

[stuck brook]

they could also jus tlimit the amount of chains possible

[bleak quiver]

yes (lots of shit going on)

[bold kelp]

You know what they need to do

give arc an aoe on hit

Thank you for coming to my ted talk

[bold kelp]

just a small one

[bold kelp]

like 1.5m

make arc great again

[split maple]

technically point blank/far shot

shaper of winter

plenty of ascend stuff actually - also inquis

hiero if aoe is offensive

[bold kelp]

does inquis have a limit?

[split maple]

well when not if

[bold kelp]

dont they have infinite crit scaling on attributes

[split maple]

not that node

[bold kelp]

ah right

[bleak quiver]

im getting ignite from chief, chill from wrapped, shock from flask, freeze from boots craft and 2 tattoos (cuz of runegraft), i dont SEEM to have anything close for freeze imunity or avoid, and megalos with freeze avoid dont exist with the other 2 mods i use

[tranquil sedge]

can u link pob

shock from flask
wait shock from flask?

[split maple]

how rampy is corpse pact 🤔 i think it counts

[bleak quiver]

im thinking about trying to free a flask suffix... but the only one is all res that i need to have 30% over cold/lightning

[tranquil sedge]

why not just stormshroud then

[bleak quiver]

cws

all my jewels are precious

[split maple]

why would stormshroud be issue with cws

oh slot pressure

[bold kelp]

corpse pact is probably one of those things you can like realistically get an infinite amount of since it feeds itself right?

[tranquil sedge]

link pob

[bleak quiver]

i will,, one sec

[bold kelp]

More cast speed means more consumed means more cast speed so on

[split maple]

yea up to maximum of 200%

[bold kelp]

So it makes sense that it has a hard limit

otherwise you'd eventually hit cast speed hard limit right

[bleak quiver]

this is the one im using to try and fit the boots
https://pobb.in/qSF15I_CTrTC

[bold kelp]

Cuz you'd keep ramping casts/consumes

[bleak quiver]

thinking about trying to free up another suffix by getting dex somewhere somehow... that would free up the boots which would free the flask suffix

[bold kelp]

Is it viable for you to use elegrant hubris?

[tranquil sedge]

yea ngl this 100% feels like a sacrifice rare jewel moment to me

[bleak quiver]

no

[tranquil sedge]

mostly coz that seems like the lowest effort fix

[bleak quiver]

yeah, it is the lowest effort

im trying to find a high effort cuz tbh, the boots arent even that much of a improvement

[bold kelp]

sac a rare jewel for the dex timeless, or finda way to slot in elegant hubris and then you dont need any attributes

[bold kelp]

hubris looks like it'd be 6 points which is kind of alot

[bleak quiver]

there is no way to fit a elegant hubris, ive researched it long enough

takes way too many points and no notable it gives is remotely useful aside from ostentation of course

[bleak quiver]

i might just drop the idea of the boots cuz yeah, its whatever

[bold kelp]

That was fast

[bleak quiver]

its mr beast, they will give free money

[bold kelp]

I find it funny how prolific mr beast is

like AI replicates him absolutely perfectly

[bleak quiver]

well, he's just a famous guy

[split maple]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1st28c5/ssf_helical_craft/

ethical ring

[bleak quiver]

disgusting shit

[bold kelp]

xDDDD

Not 2x though, vendor

[short prairie]

i saw that

in global

[bleak quiver]

elegant solutions found so far:
2x 1p voices
volatile mageblood for more dex

i guess its not time to be elegant

[livid quarry]

ssf get extra luck

if they played in trade without trading

they would be much poorer

[plucky rivet]

how do i do chambers of impurity ?

[bleak quiver]

its one of the memory threads

[plucky rivet]

what astrolabe to buy

[bleak quiver]

memory of trauma, not a astrolabe but similar to use

if you hvnt completed the story line yet, you need to find it naturally

[rough field]

Ssf luck? Meanwhile am on 56 conflict orbs no 2 rage on hit

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HGIXqEMaIAAiDQR.mp4

[dense rock]

serves you right for not using the streamer client

[frigid wedge]

i realise that as soon as i fix my mana regen for my rage accuracy becomes an optional stat

this makes me happy

still not sure how to deal w mana

[mental nymph]

Good for you

[frigid wedge]

:P

[cedar yarrow]

any items suggestions for flicker?

any new items i mean

[frigid wedge]

which version of flicker

[cedar yarrow]

12l slayer

[frigid wedge]

uh

[split maple]

imbued gems?

[frigid wedge]

screams

[cedar yarrow]

well yeah i got endurance charge on stun imbued one

[dense rock]

abyssus

[split maple]

can slap volatile orbs around on some uniques in general too

[frigid wedge]

screams, imbue, can probably make some fog clusters now, and v vaal your amulet depending on which ammy you use, v vaal for squire might be nice too and you might be able to fit eclipse for ur reservation skills bc ur usually supreme ost anyways

i imagine one of the new gems could probably be used for smth

[split maple]

i saw some flickers using scornful herald on hoi

[frigid wedge]

interesting

doesn't that fuck w reserve

[cedar yarrow]

aslong as i have 6 mana or more im fine

[split maple]

yea its 130% multi

need to compensate

[frigid wedge]

also most of 12L flicker is rares and the uniques dont rlly need volatile

[tawdry olive]

Imagine if you could volatile rares, rip mirror servicing

[frigid wedge]

u could volatile ur uh

farrul

to get lower aspect duration

that could be good

[cedar yarrow]

well shako is common but id rather die than try to run that unupgradable setup

[split maple]

idk would rather dc it

[bleak quiver]

shako is hell

[frigid wedge]

12L uses warlord blizzard crown where possible

[cedar yarrow]

yeah i ran that before but found heatshiver pushes more dps

[frigid wedge]

if ur on std might need a diff one to be able yo get enchant

[split maple]

legacy heatshiver rite?

[frigid wedge]

u get a legacy one?

[cedar yarrow]

yeah with enchant

[frigid wedge]

niceee

[cedar yarrow]

i also compared it to a very op blizzard crown

[frigid wedge]

the 100% as extra yeh?

u running with or without farrul

[cedar yarrow]

with

replica

[frigid wedge]

interesting

[split maple]

huh i just realized replica farul wasnt changed once since it was added

[cedar yarrow]

also here is what the helm was before heatshiver

its an abomination

[frigid wedge]

u can definitely volatile down the aspect duration if ur attacking faster than ur charges gen

or yk

[cedar yarrow]

oh

[frigid wedge]

rvob it

[cedar yarrow]

you can volatile it down?

[bleak quiver]

goes up and down

[frigid wedge]

volatile goes up and down out of range

[cedar yarrow]

interesting

whats the low roll?

[bleak quiver]

0.78x down 1.22x up, rounds up

[split maple]

could go down to what 1.56sec

[cedar yarrow]

and with less duration

and swift affliction

[frigid wedge]

yep

or just

[cedar yarrow]

thats stupid

[split maple]

1.58sec lowest on trade

[frigid wedge]

get frenzy on hit stuff

[cedar yarrow]

how much?

i have frenzy on hit from mark and flicker has build in

[cedar yarrow]

ouch

[split maple]

looks pretty free for what it is

[cedar yarrow]

tbh i think what i have is better since frenzy sustain aint a problem

[dense rock]

for now

[cedar yarrow]

thats what i got

[frigid wedge]

you can have 4 flicker uses per frenzy consumed iirc if ur awakened/greater multistrike without flourish, or can force like, lucky block

[frigid wedge]

wtf are those implicits

what is socketed there

[cedar yarrow]

dw i dont have minions

it was cheap for the increased dmg

[frigid wedge]

:/

[cedar yarrow]

it was this for 30d or better one for 2 mirrors

id rather die

[frigid wedge]

is socketed aoe gems or smth for ur auras not better

instead of Inc

[cedar yarrow]

nothing in the chest can be boosted by it

cus it doesnt roll +1 socketed gems

[frigid wedge]

what's in there

[cedar yarrow]

steelskin, assassins mark

leapslam i think

mostly trash

well

[frigid wedge]

ahh

[cedar yarrow]

stuff i didnt have anywhere to put

[split maple]

Eh do you rly value 48% incr that much

[dense rock]

cast on death portal 😄

[cedar yarrow]

over what?

[frigid wedge]

unironically put this on my slayer in settlers and still had empty sockets

[cedar yarrow]

if its all defense then best in slot is +1 max res and increase health

otherwise for dps increase dmg is best in slot for dps

[split maple]

Idk rly but that's at best what 2 passives worth of incr

[dense rock]

i have flicker on my chest and leap slam and cwdt and cast on death portal on my weapon 😄

[frigid wedge]

can we by chance see a pob

[cedar yarrow]

you are a freak

sure 1 sec

[frigid wedge]

had in my gloves

[dense rock]

I had a 6link cwdt setup but it kinda fucked me up because it had the habit of burning so much of my mana that my flickering came to sudden stop due to no mana 😄

[frigid wedge]

lifetap

.-.

[dense rock]

nah

[bleak quiver]

1.56 with 21/23 less and swift, funny

[cedar yarrow]

https://pobb.in/8S5G1fiZi2U4

enjoy

[split maple]

💀

[cedar yarrow]

it has issues probably

[dense rock]

totally not a "ill just throw whatever in there" socket setup

[cedar yarrow]

what the hell

jesus bro

[dense rock]

😄

[cedar yarrow]

atlesat try

[frigid wedge]

how tight is ur accuracy

[cedar yarrow]

wdym how tight?

[frigid wedge]

how hard is it for you to be capping it

[cedar yarrow]

you take off the tattoo and it goes below 100%

lol

[frigid wedge]

bc ur using normal darkrays and foulborn ones would free some points

[cedar yarrow]

i forget what did that sacrifice

for the foulborn line

evasion rating

hmm

that might kill my phys hit

[frigid wedge]

doesn't touch it

changes ur ehp

[dense rock]

are you getting hit enough for it to even matter?

[cedar yarrow]

if i wanna tank uber shaper slam

yk

[frigid wedge]

iirc cant evade that

[cedar yarrow]

iron reflexes

i dont have evasion

[dense rock]

do you NEED to tank uber slams when you have 400mil dps?

[frigid wedge]

armour has diminishing returns

for large hits

[cedar yarrow]

no but what if i need a cup of coffee mid fight?

its important

lol

[dense rock]

you flicker to the coffee machine and back... How long is that gonna take? Like 0.025secs?

[cedar yarrow]

but yeah ima look into the boots to free up points

[bleak quiver]

TRUE

[split maple]

okay lossing eva on boots is 18% less armour

[dense rock]

ooooof

[cedar yarrow]

well tbh for shaper i usually replace reflect flask with one with 60% more evasion

so

[split maple]

rn you can tank 1.82 uber shaper slams, after you can tank 1.69 of them

i feel like its ok to get rid of it for accu

[cedar yarrow]

yeah

[modest knoll]

na servers hitching for anyone else?

[split maple]

even if i disable steelskin you can still tank 1.07 slams

hmm faster cooldown recovery support is now a thingie

could imbue lifetap idk on mark (iirc thats easiest to hit)

then fit that into 6l

[cedar yarrow]

lol

true

i can try

[heady cliff]

1.07 max damage slams?

some of them have quite high damage variance

[ebon hatch]

found out yesterday that i can tank almost all of uber sirus attacks, except i still die in degen pool rather quickly

[livid quarry]

oh i have some twwt in std

[ebon hatch]

fight feels decent (it’s still an awful fight tho)

[livid quarry]

wonder if i can sell for 1 mirror each

oh damn some are selling for 1d

[ebon hatch]

i guess not many items retain value in std… crucible weapons maybe and these with settlers enchantments

[cedar yarrow]

ok so

with boots

https://pobb.in/wMxtKaKidEUP

[livid quarry]

i think i gambled hom with vls dagger

[cedar yarrow]

so its a 10m dps gain ish

[lucid kiln]

chat how do we get access to uber cortex

[ebon hatch]

fragments from fortress

[lucid kiln]

its literally here

i am stupid

[grizzled lily]

holy that sword

but is the dmg real

like do u have that much

[frigid wedge]

its standard

but probably

[ebon hatch]

wait till they get our imbued gems back in std

[cedar yarrow]

the dmg is real dw

the configs are very conservative tbh

i deal more than that

it doesnt count killed recently and more stuff

like shock

[cedar yarrow]

all items i get from standard i think my dps is like 3x

from league i mean

imbued doubles my dps basically

[ebon hatch]

crit mastery for ele ailments is crazy good… it pushed me from 15% shock on average to 28-30

i regret i sold my shako 34 ice bite 10 unbound ailments

it would be even more shocking

[cedar yarrow]

im trying to find the best implicit on the boots

i think +2 aoe and +2 aura skill is the best

[zinc stump]

Surprised you settled on gloves

[ebon hatch]

+1 to socketed gems +suppress

[cedar yarrow]

that was a 100 div craft lol

[ebon hatch]

im using it

[zinc stump]

I know

[cedar yarrow]

it costs like 500

i got super lucky on t1 life

[zinc stump]

But 100 div is like no money

[grizzled lily]

cant u

buy it from mirage

for cheaper

or idk

cause standard prices kinda crazy

[ebon hatch]

+1 socketed gems with enlightened gives you alot of mana reserve

[cedar yarrow]

i already got upgrades piled up from mirage

[weak crow]

2x mageblood ssf sub 1 million kills

[cedar yarrow]

id have to do some insane tech to squeeze anger or hatred in there

my mana has no more room

unless i invest like 4 mirrors in awaken enlighten

and thats stupid

[ebon hatch]

get new weapon for socketed movement skills cost no mana

[zinc stump]

Why not just frenzy gloves tho, less headache

[cedar yarrow]

i tried with the +1 frenzy crucible but for 6 mirrors its only like a 4% dps change

no point really

and my mana cost is already 3

[ebon hatch]

it should be 0

[cedar yarrow]

why?

[tacit crow]

yo

[cedar yarrow]

i gain 6 mana on hit

it doesnt matter

[ebon hatch]

so you can fit auras up to 0 mana

[cedar yarrow]

i can fit auras up to 6 mana

if it ever becomes relevant i will look into it lol

[ebon hatch]

it’s still a break point ones you encounter a mob with relevant mod that will fck you

for split second even but it’s not pleasant

[cedar yarrow]

huh?

bro no mod can mess my mana up

that doesnt exist

[ebon hatch]

mana siphon

[cedar yarrow]

everything dies

[zinc stump]

Mana siphon vs flicker

[cedar yarrow]

never seen my mana go down ever

[ebon hatch]

i know, but 0 mana cost will make it smoother

[zinc stump]

It wont

Quite literally doesnt matter

[cedar yarrow]

it will feel the exact same and for that much cost its not worth it

4% dps for 6 mirrors is stupid

[ebon hatch]

standard fees

[zinc stump]

Void how much are locks on std nowadays

[cedar yarrow]

idk like 300?

maybe less

[zinc stump]

Hmm

[cedar yarrow]

havent checked

[zinc stump]

You could get the +1 frenzy implicit gloves prob

Should be decent dps

Cant recall if you can lock the gloves tho

[cedar yarrow]

yeah its easier to buy those

cheaper

[zinc stump]

Probably

Would not know

[cedar yarrow]

they are like 3600d

even in mirage they are mirrors

[zinc stump]

Cheaper than expected

[cedar yarrow]

yea

ima probs get legacy boots at some point

[frigid wedge]

doesn't it only cost like 30d to make a decent pair

id prefer the frenzy over perfect explicits

[cedar yarrow]

what world are you from?

30d is wild

[frigid wedge]

of frenzy gloves?

[zinc stump]

Its heavh rng sans

Heavy

[cedar yarrow]

well

the only rng thing is t1 life

everything else is pretty simple

[ebon hatch]

gloves like these are 40 divs maximum in league, idk

[frigid wedge]

awaken, look for open suffix, matron, veiled chaos, matron, reforge life

[zinc stump]

With my luck your item will fill on woke orb every time

[frigid wedge]

so make a magic base and use beast locks, open suffix isnt that hard to find

[open pasture]

is there a way to farm Tattoos of the Ngamahu Firewalker? No one seems to be selling those at all

[frigid wedge]

on trade or faustus

they're in faustus

and u can try lost shipments and sending boats

[open pasture]

wait, they're currency?

[cedar yarrow]

200 div

[frigid wedge]

ye p much

[frigid wedge]

u dont need perfect mods

[cedar yarrow]

the t1 life is what costs a ton

[wheat sinew]

yup

confirmed

[ebon hatch]

that’s, again, std fees, they really not hard to craft

[cedar yarrow]

i mean for my type of gloves

[frigid wedge]

the frenzy charge is more valuable than 20 flat life

[cedar yarrow]

IN LEAGUE

[frigid wedge]

u can settle on t2 or t3 life

[cedar yarrow]

bro

settle in frenzy implicit gloves?

[ebon hatch]

how crafting different in std i don’t recall

[cedar yarrow]

at 3600d for gloves i aint settling

[frigid wedge]

would u rather spend 4k divines or settle on ur life very slightly and cut ur craft cost to like 1k

.-.

its 20 life

[cedar yarrow]

t1 life isint hard to get on it tbh

just mod stuff

[frigid wedge]

yes im aware

[ebon hatch]

on flicker 20 life is like 2000 life but whatever

[cedar yarrow]

the +1 frenzy is what hurts

[frigid wedge]

ur spending significantly more per pair bc of the amount of metamods ur using

if u just mass produce ones with decent tier life and vaal a bunch of them ur gonna save urself a lotta money xD

[cedar yarrow]

okay so

in league they cost 2x more

sadge

crafting them myself might be hard

cus thats a lot of locks

actually can it be beast locked?

[ebon hatch]

only magic

not rare

[cedar yarrow]

could i roll +1 frenzy magic then craft from there?

wait no

im dum

yeah that kinda sucks

[ebon hatch]

you can imprint

[frigid wedge]

u just make

a bunch of the gloves

and keep vaaling

u can resell corrupt ones that dont brick

and some will hit other good implicits

such as base crit

[cedar yarrow]

so its around 100d per attempt

i think

[frigid wedge]

how

[cedar yarrow]

thats how much it cost to roll my gloves and that was cheap

ok well

i failed to veil 11 times

but thats besides the point

[frigid wedge]

:/

22d of metamods

[cedar yarrow]

?

[frigid wedge]

or ig like 7 in matrons

its average 40d for ur 2 elevated mods, let's say 16d for beast locks, 4d for matrons ish, 0.7d for veiled c

so like 61d

if i had to take a wild guess

and most pairs can be resold after

some for more than they costed anyways

if ur double corrupting (you prob SHOULD) it's an extra 1.8d each

[cedar yarrow]

mmm

considering this would be the second time ever crafting for me

[frigid wedge]

ah

[cedar yarrow]

could you list le steps

[frigid wedge]

gimme like 10 min

to finish what im doin

[cedar yarrow]

5 bucks to anyone who guesses what he is doin

[ebon hatch]

(nobody would ever see these 5 bucks)

ill take wild guess and say he is mowing the grass

amright

[cedar yarrow]

poe players dont go outside

[frigid wedge]

physics

[cedar yarrow]

yeah no one here would guess that

[frigid wedge]

ehh

[rocky glade]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[frigid wedge]

i think a couple ppl could

[frigid wedge]

how common do they feel

i kinda wanna try corpse scarab rituals

[rocky glade]

Uh you will see one every 10-20 maps

[frigid wedge]

are they still like 20d

[rocky glade]

No strats other than going full Ritual nodes + this combo

[rocky glade]

50

[frigid wedge]

is that 2 abundance 2 selectiveness 1 wisp

[spice pecan]

i think i swapped to armor stacker a bit too early

[rocky glade]

Yeah just replace the wisp with a vessel if you have, but this is just the easy setup one

[frigid wedge]

The start of it is just use 1 gilded fossil on the spiked gloves and then #1487533670544834821
and ur looking for life prefix id maybe only prep a 1 influence and 2 influence for this, then u craft prefixes cannot be changed, veiled chaos for ur suffix hope it hits, if it misses u just pref lock scour pref lock veiled c, morrigan+farrul to add aspect, bench, vaal

[halcyon flicker]

this franchise will be the end of me, fml. i was just wrapping up mirage and planning to take a break for a couple months

[frigid wedge]

actually isnt the Frenzy and strikes uh

prefix

[halcyon flicker]

ggg wont let me rest

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[dim turtle]

You are locked up in here with the rest of us

[halcyon flicker]

AI will just write my code. this is fine

[rocky glade]

Ritual is so luck based that unless you are sure that you can hit a good item, don't

Like you can use all the strats you want but if that one item won't show up it won't

you just have to settle with lower tier items like omens

[halcyon flicker]

i mean theres a lot of valuable stuff on there potentially

[frigid wedge]

btw im more likely to cut out an abundance for a corpses

[halcyon flicker]

raw divs, some corpses, fractured bases, omens, t0 uniques if youre really lucky

[frigid wedge]

oh u can use 2

hmm

i just wanna use corpse scarab icl

[split maple]

I would swap wisp for corpses

Like it's mega janky

[frigid wedge]

what if 1 wisp 1 abund

for 2 corpses

maybe

my mana situation is still annoying me

[ebon hatch]

stack of 2c, stack of 10c, fracture +3 mana, yeah stuff like that

[rocky glade]

Corpses override the items

[frigid wedge]

yeah but double abundance has a tendency to overfill windows

[halcyon flicker]

i mean i tried and got decent results

just dont expect to make more than stacked decks or strongboxes

[ebon hatch]

it’s giga luck based

[rocky glade]

I'd say Wisp is mega good when your build can stand in one spot

[halcyon flicker]

great for exp tho

[frigid wedge]

so what im hearing is ur always in the negatives per map

[ebon hatch]

it’s a very slow strat many ppl don’t like it, or what’s even worse they forget to shop in the window

[frigid wedge]

bc strongboxes make me nothjng ever

:D

[halcyon flicker]

how lol

[frigid wedge]

i make more from random mobs in box maps than the actual box or box mobs

[halcyon flicker]

i made like 400 div doing boxes

[frigid wedge]

rather run fuckin deli

[ebon hatch]

yeah strongboxes feel like scam

[halcyon flicker]

its just also luck based

depends on how many operative strongboxes you get, and how many times you can re-open

[ebon hatch]

i spent like 15 minutes on 1 map looting every bubblegum currency dropped from boxes and it was still negative to my investment

[halcyon flicker]

I go without a valuable scarab for 2 runs in a row and then I drop 3 in 1 map and 2 raw divs

[tranquil sedge]

well i mean

that's part of the issue

u shouldnt be wasting time looting worthless stuff

[frigid wedge]

yeah but if im scarab farming imma be real ill just do like 20c investment nightmare maps or originator maps and just use nemesis

.-.

i hate boxes

its awful

[ebon hatch]

otherwise looting would end immediately cuz there is no valuable loot

[halcyon flicker]

you just need a spammy spellcaster to take advantage of the strongbox strat

[onyx adder]

What i hate most is the delay between box reopening

If i could just mash it

And have it spawn until it doesnt

I would like boxes much more

[frigid wedge]

thats kinda not my problem

i just hate boxes

[tranquil sedge]

idk what to say, odds are in the favor of skill issue here

and im not an exception to it, like everyone says how good breach is but i hated it

but at the same time, probably just skill issue on my part

same thing here

[halcyon flicker]

what I basically do is just open all of them and run a circle around the map, then go for the middle, then do another lap to clear everything out

[frigid wedge]

i dont care how many raw mirrors its dropped me im not running boxes for anything other than the super low investment ones on week 2

[ebon hatch]

breach brought me 0 divines after 40 maps with the best scarabs

[tranquil sedge]

most people aren't dropping mirrors on boxes anyway

[halcyon flicker]

i dont like breach either

[ebon hatch]

that includes bloodline

[tranquil sedge]

or even considering trying to drop one

[frigid wedge]

ive dropped two

[tranquil sedge]

nice

[frigid wedge]

i just dont like boxes

[halcyon flicker]

yeah i havent gotten a mirror, not even a lock

[onyx adder]

At least breach is undeniably great xp

[frigid wedge]

ive dropped 4 locks and 2 mir since settlers started

[tranquil sedge]

settlers?

[frigid wedge]

yes

[halcyon flicker]

ive only ever dropped a mirror in affliction

[frigid wedge]

got 2mir from a box dupe in settlers

[halcyon flicker]

but that was a gameshark league so not gonna count it

[frigid wedge]

1 lock(or 2, i forget) from abyss in mercs, ive dropped 1 lock this league with allflame farm and i swear there was a fourth

[split maple]

Yea my main issue with it is that it moves and then due to visual clarity^tm Got no clue where it went to

[rocky glade]

In that case just drop it and run a corpse scarab, it's mostly annoying to chase it

[halcyon flicker]

reminds me of doing ziggurat on a minion build. the rage was real

[split maple]

i am still lockless :/ got like 4 mists so far tho

[frigid wedge]

2 mists here

[halcyon flicker]

just 1

[ebon hatch]

10 sacreds, 0 locks 0 mirrors

[halcyon flicker]

cant even remember how i got it

[rocky glade]

@split maple Alright lemme try the 2 corpse 1 abundance strat

[onyx adder]

2 mist both from astrolabes

[split maple]

prolly that says more about my level of juicing than i would want it to

[halcyon flicker]

mine was from a map, i thought it was the refracting fog that gave it

or whatever its called

[split maple]

its called reflecting mist

[halcyon flicker]

but i clicked it like a thousand times and it only ever brigns up the ring craft

[split maple]

ik its confusing

[onyx adder]

Its very rare drop from that

Also comes from astrolabe reward

[halcyon flicker]

that makes sense

[ebon hatch]

i sold my only mist back early league, it was 10 div

now it’s 50

[halcyon flicker]

i still have mine

[onyx adder]

Im not sure what the odds are from astrolabe bc my sample size is so small but seems good idk

[livid quarry]

nothing wrong with that u farm faster with gear

[ebon hatch]

true

[halcyon flicker]

i tried a different strat for a couple hours yesterday and only made like 8 div lol

[ebon hatch]

what strat

[split maple]

2 mists in 500 labes sample

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1s47mdj/results_from_500_scholars_vaults_from_astrolabes/

[frigid wedge]

icl im just fuckin around atp with strats

i was running jun harvest

[wheat sinew]

yikes

[frigid wedge]

ive dropped the harvest bc my build fuckin sucks at it

[halcyon flicker]

50x primordial blocks on a 700% movespeed character, looking for mirage empowered heist blueprints, gift to the goddess trials and good wishes

[split maple]

man thats kinda amazeballs good compared to usual

[halcyon flicker]

0 hideouts, 3 black baryas. pretty much it

gift to the goddess is so insanely rare too

[split palm]

Hi sans

[split maple]

i did similiar to that 480 maps last weekend in coves

got 6% for baryas

gift is i feel still equally likely as tribute and dedication

[spice pecan]

god i forgot how satisfying it is to press vaal smite

[halcyon flicker]

i found a ton of these

[ebon hatch]

you probably miss barya that spawns in the map itself if you rush mirage

[frigid wedge]

hii shika

[split maple]

eh ridan always spawns pretty close to mirage portal i feel

[ebon hatch]

i got 50/50 map/mirage barya spawn by feel

[frigid wedge]

how u enjoying boots

[wheat sinew]

btw @split maple watchu think of my reses xdddd

[split maple]

and wiki has 5% overall for wish + natural ridan

[halcyon flicker]

im pretty sure the boss always spawns near the mirage but i could be wrong

seems like it for me tho

[wheat sinew]

he always spawns next to mirage lady

noticed that from getting multiple ridan wish, natural + miraged ridan

[ebon hatch]

ehh i can’t say for certain anyway im flicker

cant see shit

[spice pecan]

baby armor

[split maple]

bro whatcha think about mine

[wheat sinew]

xdddd

[proud pebble]

bro needs to go to the harvest bench

[wheat sinew]

love tempered by war

[halcyon flicker]

but yeah, thats definitely not the strat. however, if I even found a single hideout that would have been +100 div so its hard to say

[split maple]

best keystone ingame

[wheat sinew]

got 70% dmg taken as fire atm

[split maple]

got 90%

[ebon hatch]

what h/o is 100d i wonder

[split maple]

them eater altars are giga free

[halcyon flicker]

people pay 20div for primeval

per portal, and you get 5 so

[wheat sinew]

not sure where to get last 30% without spending years in uber shaper jail

[ebon hatch]

i have sanguine how much is that?

[halcyon flicker]

assuming you dont get scammed 😛

[split maple]

by sending sasil to jail instead

[ebon hatch]

just interesting

[split maple]

but like the only option pretty much is 10% ele as chaos bound + 20% dawnbreaker

which kinda aint possible for you

[livid quarry]

i now understand why hideout warriors have a low level chara

equip all ms gear zoom fast

[split maple]

not like 70% aint good enough if you keep cold and light positive

[wheat sinew]

yeeee

[ebon hatch]

i decorated my h/o yesterday it is slick! loving it now

[split maple]

what the fuck is that

can you get 4hunter? 👀

[wheat sinew]

noppers

[frigid wedge]

why not

[wheat sinew]

I guess....................................................

no

would require at least 4 more woke orbs

and replace gloves + ring

for the usual flicker elevated/reg gloves

[split maple]

have you considered you have two rings

and hmm chanceable belt slot

[wheat sinew]

nu

[zinc stump]

@wheat sinew you know how it goes

Farm invitations i farm the bosses

[wheat sinew]

dw

I already am on that

[frigid wedge]

i keep vibe building and the vibes rn are not it

xD

[zinc stump]

Neato

[split maple]

are you gonna hate me if i send you to uber maven jail

[zinc stump]

Nope

[wheat sinew]

bro is on uber maven jail

[zinc stump]

I already did like

40 uber mavens

[split maple]

do we already have waiting list for progen or what 😄

[zinc stump]

Im using the one i got

[crisp obsidian]

you people still playing

wtf

nerds

[zinc stump]

Ofc jiji

[split maple]

hey league just started

not my fault tradies burn out

[zinc stump]

Jiji im almost at 4040 without doing challenges directly

[wheat sinew]

also grind grind grind

[zinc stump]

We just play vidya game

[crisp obsidian]

still hasn't sold 😔

[zinc stump]

Ofc not

All trade people quit

[crisp obsidian]

wtffff

[zinc stump]

Only empy and ssf players left

[frigid wedge]

i wonder if i need to get abyssals or normals

[wheat sinew]

ah yeah sasil did ya seeeeee

the staff is finbishedddd

[zinc stump]

Ya i saw

Been playing some torchlight

Nice change of pace

Got to 91 so far

[wheat sinew]

hell yea

[split maple]

emm whats the ethical config for number of shocked enemies killed recently

[wheat sinew]

at least 5

[wheat sinew]

[spice pecan]

youtube is reading my discord messages

i swear

[wheat sinew]

btw what do I do here... am like can't really craft anything cuz all crafts got life

[zinc stump]

Nothing

[split maple]

foulborn exalt surely no life tag mod

[short prairie]

im gonna send it

[split maple]

remove benches senses

and gl

[ocean folio]

slam for hybrid and hit life instead

thats what i usually do

[wheat sinew]

do I 1/3 gamba annul the fire res

actually nvm

can harvest swap to cold

[split maple]

add prefix remove suffix

[wheat sinew]

and then casn't die yeppers

[short prairie]

absolte F

[wheat sinew]

yikes

[frigid wedge]

tbf if you have voice permissions for any related apps its listening to you talk too

[spice pecan]

jokes on them, i mute my mic and rotate it away when not using it

[frigid wedge]

meant ur phone

[tacit crow]

on the damn homepage?!

[spice pecan]

yeah!

[tacit crow]

FUUUCK

[frigid wedge]

i took away mic permissions for instagram and shit and stopped getting ads related to conversations i was having

[tacit crow]

we are big leagues

i haven't even posted it on reddit yet

[spice pecan]

lmaooo

[haughty dirge]

Holyyyyy

We got a celebity

[frigid wedge]

im bored

[haughty dirge]

I lean away from the mic to breath

[frigid wedge]

the day my mic is functional enough for this is the day i am slightly less unhappy

[tacit crow]

https://tenor.com/view/pussy-cat-cute-kitty-kitten-cat-gif-16800925

[frigid wedge]

im fine not being a celebrity as long as ppl dont act like assholes

:D

[tacit crow]

don't red cross me please sans

[spice pecan]

tay zonday detected

[frigid wedge]

mrow

[haughty dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/tay-zonday-tay-zonday-and-we-are-live-live-gif-8531228136180527624

[tacit crow]

https://tenor.com/view/panko-cat-pankocat-fatfatpankocat-pet-gif-228857265189960783

[frigid wedge]

kbity

im sleepy

[ebon hatch]

sadly game doesn’t allow to demonstrate the power of 12 billion dps to full capacity