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[crisp obsidian]

no

[sleek barn]

ok how ab it also adds a mod that says if you pick up 10 alterations your character gets sent to the void

[surreal mulch]

all currency tab currency is picked up but it costs 10k gold every time

[crisp obsidian]

would be unrunnable

no point

[sleek barn]

exactly

[crisp obsidian]

well nvm

not even

that's an easy mod

probs the easiest mod ever

you just fill inventory

[sleek barn]

true

but then you don't get the advantage of auto pickup

yknow what dumb idea anyways

[frigid wedge]

khailby why is ur only insult lil gup

like literally the only thing

why gup

[sleek barn]

gup mentioned

risk of rain enjoyers

unite

[crisp obsidian]

wtf even does that mean

[modest sparrow]

Gup

[rough field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gup-cat-gup-cat-bath--k01KPV1TXKJP89MYHDHB15YCF33

[frigid wedge]

why this mf

[rough field]

Cat goes GUP

[modest sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-2-risk-of-rain-ror2-ror-gup-gif-13997995254907678207

[normal hedge]

is that even a insult?

[frigid wedge]

ikr

gup is great

OMMGGGGGG

[normal hedge]

D:

[frigid wedge]

HE SO TINY

[modest sparrow]

Im gonna start sparing small gups now

[frigid wedge]

OMG THEY HAVE DIFFERENT NAMES AT DIFFERENT SIZES

[modest sparrow]

Yes!

[frigid wedge]

ITS GUP GEEP AND GIP

[cobalt blade]

nom

[crisp obsidian]

omg I am modmailing you all for going offtopic!!!11!!!

[cobalt blade]

yuuuh

[frigid wedge]

:(

[cobalt blade]

time for the gup pet in poe

[frigid wedge]

it was like 2 deconds

[normal hedge]

complaining about offtopic is also offtopic

[sleek barn]

true reported

[modest sparrow]

For real

[crisp obsidian]

complaining about offtopic about offtopic is also offtopic

[sleek barn]

im canceling jijiPT

[normal hedge]

complaining about complainning about complaining about complainning about complaining about complainning about off topic is also offtopic

[crisp obsidian]

dan that's so 2020 of you to cancel someone

smh

[cobalt blade]

i would sacrifice a ring slot at best nothing else and i would prefer to not have it at all

[limpid prairie]

temple has been kind

[sleek barn]

too bad canceling is still relevant

[normal hedge]

is it?

[crisp obsidian]

no we need bigger action nowadays

cancelling is not enough

[sleek barn]

public execution

[cobalt blade]

big

[sleek barn]

[normal hedge]

bif

[crisp obsidian]

are u french by any chance

[sleek barn]

best in france

[cobalt blade]

meow

[sleek barn]

no

sometimes i wish i was

[normal hedge]

why

[sleek barn]

but then i would be hated

bc french is funny

[crisp obsidian]

what's the difference to now ||this is a joke||

[sleek barn]

i take great offense

[limpid prairie]

I wanted pen but its not bad

[cobalt blade]

i mean hey frees up boot onslaught :3

or gives you mapping onslaught if u alrdy didnt run that

[limpid prairie]

yeah attack speed is all useless on the build but speed is nice

[frigid wedge]

thats an implicit?????

whats on it for explicits

[cobalt blade]

thrusting 1 hand sword has weird ones yeah

[sleek barn]

thats what they call me

uh

thrusting 1 hand sword

[frigid wedge]

ah right

[sleek barn]

man i drank too much coffee

[frigid wedge]

i get called babydoll

we are not the same

[cobalt blade]

waow

[sleek barn]

we are not the same indeed

[frigid wedge]

icl i saw x when mana on that paradoxica and brain had neuron activation moment

[sleek barn]

mfw mana stacker brain

kboc hiero hurdur

[cobalt blade]

ive seen a mana flicker sustain with that implicit before

[sleek barn]

frenzy generation isn't too hard though

[limpid prairie]

Paradoxica

[cobalt blade]

it was cursed

[devout shoal]

guys is sub 7h campaign decent

[sleek barn]

did you leave it unveiled

yeah

twinked?

[frigid wedge]

yes what did you unveil

[frigid wedge]

im playing a manastacker that used paradoxica

-.-

[limpid prairie]

I have a shameful Paradoxica xd thats why i didnt show the full item

[crisp obsidian]

where attack speed

[frigid wedge]

dan talkin about his thrusting one handed sword

tbf

its accuracy quality w accuracy mod

maybe theres

like

1 use case

[limpid prairie]

This is your fault

[frigid wedge]

I prob need a cc paradoxia

[limpid prairie]

for letting me cook the build

[tranquil sedge]

cool weapon

but yea where aps heck

[frigid wedge]

why did you say it in such a way that it sounds like i got you pregnant

[limpid prairie]

static strike+celestial maths doesnt need AS

[frigid wedge]

xD

[tranquil sedge]

i c

[frigid wedge]

as is qol

even if not needed

[sleek barn]

cool build though

[modest sparrow]

Is alright, just try to go for sub 5~hrs

[sleek barn]

how much ward you got Empress?

[modest sparrow]

Did you start that vls build yet

[frigid wedge]

its been "started" for a while

it isnt really geared

[frigid wedge]

wanted to see if there was any hope of basic function

[modest sparrow]

How does it feel

[limpid prairie]

(more with stone golem CWDT)

[frigid wedge]

rn its lacking most areas of everything but taking it to content its geared for feels great

im gonna see how far i can get the mana once im on

[modest sparrow]

Cheering for you boss 🙏

[frigid wedge]

my concern is that ill need too many mediums for a large pool of mana

but i think khatals enables double mana flasks

w one divine or dmth

[twin arch]

I have chud too

[frigid wedge]

lovely

[twin arch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gup-cat-gif-15018716826656166348

This is the lil gup

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMgGU-B9bU

[cobalt blade]

P sure itll still just apply the best one for actual recovery but youll still get flask suffixes

[frigid wedge]

yeah but thats when they queue

this doesn't

[cobalt blade]

could easily test with master surgeon and a setup that degens with rf with only 1 flask active

[sleek barn]

looks good

[cobalt blade]

yes but in general as i mentioned before ur only allowed to benefit from the mana of 1 flask

[frigid wedge]

mn

[cobalt blade]

the not queueing actually means it should turn off your other flasks no?

[frigid wedge]

maybe

idrk

[cobalt blade]

x3 fair

[inner prawn]

anyone have ritual scarabs of selectiveness?

[covert swan]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[frigid wedge]

hahaha rf master surgeon

funnny

ill just

use khatals and click vls

[tranquil umbra]

just buy from faustus

[cobalt blade]

Thats how the pf arca brand eow builds sustained it

in delve

lol

[frigid wedge]

ye but

[inner prawn]

good one.

[tranquil umbra]

what the fuck

[frigid wedge]

i can test without a single gem swap or respec

[tranquil umbra]

try the opposite direction

[cobalt blade]

yer set buy orders and wait

[tranquil sedge]

or buy in div

[frigid wedge]

any for divs?

[cobalt blade]

Fair point

Was just the simplest way to get a degen to offset i could think off

[frigid wedge]

my main skill degens me

thats why i can only sustain 6 rn

[wheat sinew]

OMG WE HJOIT

HIT THE 1/3

[sleek barn]

pog

[tranquil sedge]

pog

[frigid wedge]

Yoo

multimod time

[tranquil umbra]

oh mein gott the heavy strike of the trarthus

[pulsar ice]

damnation is in a freefall

[tranquil sedge]

about time honestly

[wheat sinew]

after 3 weeks of crafting

[cobalt blade]

biiig

[tranquil sedge]

is osin falling or still stupidly expensive

[frigid wedge]

i strike heavy on her rod until she trarthuses

[cobalt blade]

now you gamba the reforge speed right

[tranquil umbra]

wrong pronouns

[sleek barn]

so true

[twin arch]

her rod :sus:

[twin arch]

Not true

[wheat sinew]

we take this

[frigid wedge]

trans women exist

[tranquil umbra]

fine

[twin arch]

speaking of, half of you want this and half of you want to be this

[frigid wedge]

im striking HER rod

[sleek barn]

that may be the most eventuality rod i have ever seen

[twin arch]

Gulp

[wheat sinew]

final craft

[tranquil umbra]

but it's supposed to be "she heavy striking my rod till I trarthus"

[twin arch]

He lowkey built like a 30 year old man

[tranquil sedge]

pog

[frigid wedge]

no, im striking her rod

[twin arch]

Ya bottoms exist lil chud

[tranquil sedge]

hows it feel to play

vs. like msoz

[twin arch]

Good craft

[tranquil umbra]

that build gets fire convert to chaos right

[twin arch]

Yes

[wheat sinew]

only a mirror sinked in

xddddd

[tranquil umbra]

how exactly do you achieve that

fb red nightmare?

or is it just osin

[tranquil sedge]

lycia bloodline converts 2/3

[frigid wedge]

lycia and fb nightmare

[tranquil sedge]

fb nightmare becomes optional if u wanna convert the rest

u can ignore it if u prefer some other jewel

[tranquil umbra]

yeah I figured it would be red nightmare

[split maple]

I wanted to be like tag srev when you slap that to global but y'all already there

[wheat sinew]

• need @split maple to carry my lycia

[tranquil umbra]

because you are not taking a bloodline as jugg

[tranquil sedge]

alberon's already gives a ton of flat anyway

[twin arch]

sanctum farmers

[tranquil sedge]

yes you are

[twin arch]

In this economy

Wtf

[split maple]

Sure lemme get my lil hh deadeye with no unconditional DMG into sanctumy

[tranquil umbra]

disaster

[tranquil sedge]

the jewel isnt that important

lycia bloodline is the main thing

the jewel is honestly pretty optional

replica alberon's already gives u a fuckton of flat

[tranquil umbra]

ig you can just ff for the 4th notable

[frigid wedge]

real

[tranquil sedge]

and 2/3 conversion's good enough

[tranquil sedge]

correct, in trade league

u can f/f any useful notable

[split maple]

Hey we have ff pairs

Two of them even

[tranquil sedge]

lol

[split maple]

none for jugger

[steel light]

#13, i've saved 7D 👀

[sleek barn]

huge

[tranquil sedge]

nice

[frigid wedge]

what pairs

[wheat sinew]

yes pls

[frigid wedge]

what pairs u got

[wheat sinew]

war of attrition

and elementalist

[tidal geode]

guys how much is the quant breakpoint for nightmare maps?

[tranquil umbra]

icl having to do the lycia bloodline turned me off of msoz just now

[split maple]

surely we get second half of more than skill soon

[wheat sinew]

I always am

[tranquil sedge]

wiki has a table, and it's not a hard breakpoint really

[wheat sinew]

I lose 20% max hits but it's w/e

[tranquil sedge]

235% is enough

acc wiki

[tidal geode]

thanks

[tranquil umbra]

I think sanctum is the single worst content poe has ever released in terms of how little synergy it has compared to the rest of the game

[tranquil sedge]

lol

[split maple]

Sanctum is based and good

[tranquil sedge]

i think delve takes that prize

or heist

yea heist

[tranquil umbra]

eh delve you still fight

[split maple]

Which is why we have almost a quad of tomes no one is running

[tranquil sedge]

meh

sanctum's just like heist

either u like it or will never touch it

and both like specialized builds

[wheat sinew]

I run heist cuz it's funz xd

[tranquil sedge]

at least sanctum it can be 'anything with clear'

[split maple]

Hmm I could level my templar with sanctumy

[tawdry olive]

"man this arma crema campaign is clunky af and i wasted a lot of time reading gems in town"
> checks kitava time
> somehow as fast as my leaguestart slam

[tranquil sedge]

heist is 'if u dont have movespeed what are you even doing'

[tawdry olive]

... i see why this is a thing

[tranquil umbra]

sanctum is infinitely harder to attempt without a specialized build

[tranquil sedge]

yea but 'specialized' is far more open there

its just 'do you have clear'

[steel light]

for zhp uber bosser icicle mine of fanning, 10% increased effect of non curse aura = 1D, the extra % isn't gamebreaking right?

[tranquil sedge]

anything with ok clear will work

[tranquil sedge]

pob and find out
but i doubt it

[tranquil umbra]

idt mjolner will work that well chief

[tranquil sedge]

get more aoe and proj speed and you could prob make it work
if u mean the ball lightning kinda builds and stuff

[tranquil umbra]

and god forbid trying sanctum as a melee build

[tranquil sedge]

but yea a wander or bowyer or even spark or totem

will rinse that any day

[tranquil umbra]

which msoz is

[tranquil sedge]

yea i tried one sanctum as msoz

[split maple]

Well you also wouldn't breach with melee build lel

[tranquil sedge]

nty

but thats fine

what esm said ^

every content has different reqs

[split maple]

And like sokra did sanctumy last league with sunder

[tranquil sedge]

sanctum at least isn't heist that you literally run exactly one build

[tranquil umbra]

incorrect
flicker

breach needs high ms or projectiles

[tranquil sedge]

i mean

[bleak quiver]

fiery boy with the big booms already does the trick

[tranquil sedge]

flickering in a breach will get you around just fine

dont need ms for that

but proj build will beat it 10/10 times lol

[tranquil umbra]

I put the flicker speed as ms if you didn't get that

[tranquil sedge]

right

[split maple]

Okay clearing 5ways then

Like properly

[tranquil sedge]

pfffft

[tranquil umbra]

yeah that sure

[tranquil sedge]

we pay people to do that

[tranquil umbra]

lmao

[split maple]

[tranquil umbra]

I did breach with the mjolner build it was excellent
god I love lightning warp

[split maple]

Okay you wouldn't do beasts with build that has clear

[tranquil sedge]

hey we're not dr horse

[tranquil umbra]

see the thing with sanctum is that most optimized builds just cannot even attempt to finish it

[tranquil sedge]

we like our yellows

[tranquil umbra]

it's not "this is suboptimal"

[tranquil sedge]

just cannot even attempt to finish it

nah this aint true

[split maple]

Problem is 15 reds man

[tranquil sedge]

u can easily attempt to finish it

its just you take forever going slow and careful

which is un fun as fuck

[split maple]

And don't forget relics

Folk keep forgetting their relics then wonder why it's ass

[tranquil umbra]

I know this yes I wanted to kms trying to clear it last league on hroc

[tranquil sedge]

me 2

i tried once on msoz

[sleek barn]

me 3

[tranquil sedge]

at floor 3 i gave up and died

[sleek barn]

i did hroc too

[tranquil sedge]

and paid for lycia instead

[sleek barn]

i died to lycia

painge

[tranquil umbra]

I actually paid my relics

fucking

miserable

[split maple]

The worst build i did Sanctum with was hive herald pbod

The clutter

The ramp

[blazing spear]

decided to add some poe ost to replace some terraria music tracks

[sleek barn]

i thought branders were desireable

[split maple]

No brand range

[bleak quiver]

i did it with charlan spark last league, was dreadful

[sleek barn]

ig the ramping yeah

[tranquil sedge]

huh

did u not have enough dps or proj speed?

spark's one of the better sanctum skills

[bleak quiver]

its a charlatan build

[sleek barn]

no kills for charltan

shrine

[split maple]

Yea that build wasnt really brander

[tranquil sedge]

chief i haven't played charlatan

i see

[split maple]

Was a herald autobomber with pbod without invest into brands at all

[sleek barn]

autobomber in sanctum sounds like shit yeah

[tranquil umbra]

I should reword what I said about sanctum
yes you can clear sanctum with any build in theory, but holy shit is it miserable if the build is not specialized for sanctum

like nothing comes close in terms of how aids it is on an entry level

[split maple]

Idk man, bossing on rf

[sleek barn]

holy balls my head feels light i drank way too much coffee

[tranquil sedge]

that's fair

[strange moon]

How much is a normal amount of div to get while going through the campaign?

[sleek barn]

0

[tranquil sedge]

zero

[split maple]

0

[tranquil umbra]

yeah 0 is normal

[strange moon]

... oh I got Hella lucky i got 3

[sleek barn]

srev types out 0

[tranquil umbra]

nice

[split maple]

Gg

[tawdry olive]

I just went through campaign and got 2 this time

[tranquil sedge]

and still rinses the others

[tranquil umbra]

that should get you started easily

[tawdry olive]

Last character got a sacred orb in campaign

This loot buff is cray

[sleek barn]

yeah you got very lucky with 3

were any from the breach tree

[tranquil umbra]

I dropped a div in act 4 this league

and a tabula in mud flats

[split maple]

I Got a quicksilver from Island quest

[tranquil umbra]

dawg they give yyou that for free

[strange moon]

No 1 normal 2 from mirage I think not 100% sure

[bleak quiver]

i missed that one

bad rng

[tranquil umbra]

completely cured my campaign burnout

the instant it dropped

[steel light]

wtf?

[sleek barn]

free 20 fusings!

[sleek barn]

volatile

probably

[strange moon]

Got a 6link?

[tranquil umbra]

no that's just max roll

[sleek barn]

good for volatile

[split maple]

how much can volatile hit there

[sleek barn]

im in a gamba mood

[tranquil umbra]

57

[sleek barn]

57

fuck

my calculator was slower

[split maple]

holy that is something

[steel light]

i mean he has 18 max rolled and cata-ed ring, he prepared all these and stopped early getting zealotry vaal?

[sleek barn]

zealotry vaal is desireable?

[cobalt blade]

it goes up to 58

not 57

[pastel radish]

how do i change spectre gem into another itemsocket without losing the spectre ?

[cobalt blade]

since volatile rounds

[sleek barn]

rounds up?

dang

volatile op

[cobalt blade]

yer

rounds up at .5 or higher down at lower

[tranquil umbra]

it rounds up if it's very close

[steel light]

zealotry or 50+% ailment is better?

[sleek barn]

rounds normally then lol

[tranquil umbra]

yeah unlike the rest of the game

[bleak quiver]

they drop to the ground if you remove it, just use the skill on them

[tranquil umbra]

where if you get 17.95 it rolls down to 17

fuckass

[sleek barn]

probably depends on how much aura effect you already have

[split maple]

these were my onlybest hits

i love that orb

[sleek barn]

mfw i have 3.9 max spectres and only get 3

[tranquil umbra]

congregation momento cinque

[steel light]

my enmity and svalin got thanos snapped

[cobalt blade]

big shield 29 ms boots clearly unuseable

[sleek barn]

reminds me i need to volatile a surrender

[cobalt blade]

smh my head

[split maple]

smh fbowb

[cosmic eagle]

4 locks in ssf, very sus

[sleek barn]

wtf

migrate to trade

kidding

[cobalt blade]

unnnuseable

[split maple]

time to make that +8 focused brah

[sleek barn]

triple attribute simplex

inc

[cosmic eagle]

if i can get focused, i got simplex tho

[split maple]

oh double iir crit multi 2.1 mist

[sleek barn]

manifesting

[tranquil umbra]

who up MFing

[cosmic eagle]

my haul so far using expe bps

[tranquil umbra]

that gets like 280 ir

[cosmic eagle]

[compact bronze]

When could next core supporter packs be?

[tranquil umbra]

when 0.5 drops

[compact bronze]

So when is that

[tranquil umbra]

a couple weeks

[native abyss]

can i get a hinekora lock drop orrrrrr

[bleak quiver]

[compact bronze]

Is that guaranteed or not really

[tranquil umbra]

guaranteed

[compact bronze]

Is that like a poe2 update or 1?

The . 5 i mean

[bleak quiver]

2

[compact bronze]

Okayy

[cosmic eagle]

4 locks and not a single fracture can be seen

[tranquil umbra]

time to do breach

so you can drop a frac from tree

[compact bronze]

Will there likely be new NOT core supportrr packs as well?

[cosmic eagle]

i guess yeah

[compact bronze]

Or no way to tell?

[tranquil umbra]

what

[compact bronze]

I mean the normal supporter packs

Not core

[tranquil umbra]

[compact bronze]

Aight

[tranquil sedge]

next year i imagine

[cosmic eagle]

exilecon surely

[tranquil umbra]

how does deli interact with mirage exactl

[tawdry olive]

fogs

[bleak quiver]

what part?

[tranquil umbra]

is the chance to spawn a mirror always guaranteed

in the mirage

[bleak quiver]

mirrors always spawn inside

[tranquil umbra]

ok

[cosmic eagle]

yeah they do

[tranquil umbra]

so I don't need to block shit

[sleek barn]

yeah

[tranquil umbra]

that's good

[bleak quiver]

yep, no need to block it

deli orbs also dupe inside, so always 5 deli full mirage maps

[tranquil umbra]

yeah ik

[bleak quiver]

so true

[steel light]

6th vaal orb, settle?

[rough field]

Misspressing on my phone oopa

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HGIXqEMaIAAiDQR.mp4

[tranquil umbra]

that's pretty good

[steel light]

max 58.8

[surreal mulch]

is a physical impale crit cyclone throwing or is it like fine

[bleak quiver]

its fine

[surreal mulch]

cool

[hidden plinth]

Everything is fine lol

Currency notwithstanding

[surreal mulch]

I tried turning it into a wither cyclone but it was so weird

[sleek barn]

void shockwave is probably the choice for wither

[surreal mulch]

no the main issue is that wither replaces impale and I'm not sure if it's even worth it at that point

[steel light]

i went and vaal 4 more, 3 bombed 1 39%

[surreal mulch]

investing into it

and chaos damage in general on top of that

[bleak quiver]

i mean, any lightning build can also be a chaos build now so

shouldnt be that hard

[tranquil umbra]

these atlas trees should not exist but they do now

[ebon hatch]

grand question: what's the best assencency for spark nowadays?

i think i am ready

[bleak quiver]

i dont think it matters at this point

[pulsar ice]

anything with an accel belt honestly

[tranquil umbra]

^

[ebon hatch]

scion can work?

[bleak quiver]

its pretty much whatever flavour you want

[normal hedge]

depends

theres like aura stacker, life stacker

whatever anime bait princess is doing

pick your poison

[split maple]

jiquani too

and indigon+khatal

[bleak quiver]

eb, chaos, poison, charlatan

[ebon hatch]

i gravitate towards elementalist for now

[normal hedge]

thats not a valid option

[ebon hatch]

solely because i can listen to female voice after long play as a slayer

lmao

[normal hedge]

jk

ive played the lifestacker one and it was pretty fun/good, not sure if the best

[tranquil umbra]

poison spark it is

[normal hedge]

i dont think hes poison

[hidden plinth]

Scion, no balls

[ebon hatch]

i don't know the game outside of deadeye and slayer to be honest

so im doing blind build sorta

[tranquil umbra]

damn you've never had fun that's crazy

jk

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-ark-lotark-get-on-lost-ark-gif-24805119

[ebon hatch]

this reliquarian is a new assendency? never seen it before

[tranquil umbra]

it is new

[hidden plinth]

Yes

[bleak quiver]

yes, its dogshit

[normal hedge]

yup it gonna change every league

[hidden plinth]

Until it isn't, then it's goated

[bleak quiver]

just like poe2

copium overdrive

[fossil mural]

and then its dogshit again

[twin arch]

next league we get crown of eyes

[tranquil umbra]

reliquarian haters when they give it voidforge

[fossil mural]

its 100% extra

[twin arch]

“Oh man reliquarian is so bad”

The humble crown of eyes:

[tranquil umbra]

still worse than jugg for str stacking

[bleak quiver]

would you actually spend a entire ascendancy for a helm slot?

[twin arch]

yes

[tranquil umbra]

it's crown of eyes

so yes

you absolutely would

[twin arch]

Id spend an entire ascendancy for voidforge

Id spend an entire ascendancy for crown of eyes

[frigid wedge]

damn she ate that shit

[twin arch]

Id spend an entire ascendancy for

Hmm

Geegee

Nevklace

Unique nevklace

[bleak quiver]

voidforge yes, if it was actually voidforge and not the 50% that they would give

[twin arch]

name one

Good one

[ebon hatch]

good lord ascendant looks juicy... i can see already all those jewel sockets filled up

[normal hedge]

the anvil

[ebon hatch]

just all ppl do

[bleak quiver]

crown of eyes i woould not give a entire ascendency even for the entire item

[twin arch]

idk oxi ive seen reliquarian builds with double the dps of ur highest pob

[frigid wedge]

badge

[hidden plinth]

The boot one with Chaos Res & Move speed

[twin arch]

chaos res movespeed necklace?

What

[normal hedge]

whispers of infinity

[twin arch]

oh yea

Whispers reliquarian

[bleak quiver]

damn, they beating armour stackkers?

[twin arch]

BATCHEST

[normal hedge]

then you can use shrimplex

[twin arch]

Ya

[normal hedge]

[bleak quiver]

surely they are

[tranquil umbra]

badge of the brotherhood

[surreal mulch]

they will probably buff reliquarian by letting her have good shit

maybe

though how is anyone supposed to know if they liked the current reliquarian play rates

[normal hedge]

ngl, i haven’t checked what reliquarian currently has

elementalist is too juicy

[bleak quiver]

always bet on nothing, they will give it another batch of 1c uniques you would not use with its entire stats and still nerf them into the ground

[hidden plinth]

I mean atm she has good things, it's just insanely specific

[frigid wedge]

badge, khatals, whispers, defiance, marylenes, yoke, utmost, omni, voice of the storm, venarius astrolabe, eternal damnation

are all

[tranquil umbra]

defiance

[frigid wedge]

really damn good amulets

[frigid wedge]

berserker defiance is shit, actual defiance is nice af

:D

[bleak quiver]

the problem with those amulets is that they are all high rarity and dependant on rolls, so if they give it for free on a ascendency they will be nerfed into uselessness

[frigid wedge]

i mean

edam, voice, whispers, khatals, badge all work on bad rolls

whispers still changes how ur costs work

which can be build enabling

eg fross, ci on rvob

[tranquil umbra]

even if you give reliquarian 10% defiance that's still a free dod

[bleak quiver]

badge yes 100%, the rest... eh

[normal hedge]

thats a overall problem with reliquarian as a whole

[tranquil umbra]

like the reason why they nerf them is because they are FREE on the ascendency

[bleak quiver]

"free"

i woulld rather have unflinching than 10% dod

[frigid wedge]

u use voice of the storm for lucky dmg with non crit lightning, u use edam for the dr mod, which doesnt roll, khatals is primarily to enable perma mana flask, whispers of infinity is primarily nice on non attack builds bc of es costs

[tranquil umbra]

you get this with ff anyway it doesn't prevent the dod

unless you mean you would play ascendent in which case that is a whole other statement

[bleak quiver]

voice of storms ok, ethernal damnation is still defendant on rolls, cuz in case you dont remember, its a drawback item, khatals... fine maybe you can justify, whispers for just es cost is a meme for saboteur buillds

[hidden plinth]

Reminder that they've also given buffed versions of uniques on tree (Jack)

[frigid wedge]

the downside doesnt roll

[tranquil umbra]

edam does not depend on rolls yeah

if anything if they remove the -max res it's like broken

[frigid wedge]

nah

the limiter for edam is the charges

[bleak quiver]

it dsnt matter if it rolls or not, look at brass dome, they will adjust downside for it being a good item and make it worse

[tranquil umbra]

well ig you used loreweave anyway

[kindred silo]

edam would be insanely strong if they removed the minus res

[frigid wedge]

dbeam is just straight up usin it

[bleak quiver]

they would prob do some shit like, adam effect, -10, cant gain CHARGES at all

[kindred silo]

dot builds tend to forego power and frenzy charges either way and endurance charges can be really annoying to generate

[tranquil umbra]

the one bad thing about it would be that it would conflict with the aul ascendency since this would be your final point

so you don't get the free aura effect

[bleak quiver]

oh yeah, all this shit is 8 points too

[tranquil umbra]

but like that's manageable

it's not a dealbreaker

[kindred silo]

aul upside is kinda mid either way

[bleak quiver]

i think they should value the 8 points more and give less mangled accessories

then those previous listed items would look really juicy

[hidden plinth]

Bloodline moment

[frigid wedge]

we love shitty settle gear

[tranquil umbra]

that is a fair criticism yeah

because what's stopping you from taking a bloodline instead

the jewellery nodes should be actually good or fulfill niches very effectively to compete with bloodlines

[frigid wedge]

hmmm

[bleak quiver]

you know its bad when the bloodlines we called mid seem like more value then 6-8p nodes

[frigid wedge]

olroth

:D

[hidden plinth]

I mean Vicky's/Maata's/Umbral Army is a good Reliquarian for Zoo

[tranquil umbra]

what is zoo

[bleak quiver]

good warlock deck in clasic

[hidden plinth]

Zoo Minions, ie the kitchen sink

Skeles/Zombies/Spectres, more if spicy

[bleak quiver]

but yeah, she's not unusable, maata and jack are good

but thats 2 nodes out of....

[tranquil umbra]

ah the "fucking everything" minion build

[bleak quiver]

23

[tranquil umbra]

trypanon clutching up for maata node

[delicate wren]

how does one get the -8 channeling mana cost craft i only see -7 on bench

is it a veiled thing?

i forget

[sleek barn]

veiled ig

[tranquil umbra]

no no

catalyst

[sleek barn]

truee

or heist base

[bleak quiver]

no veiled mana cost mods anymore

[sleek barn]

more likely catalyst

[delicate wren]

it a bench craft though

[tranquil umbra]

yes and catalyst still works on them

[bleak quiver]

quality

[delicate wren]

OHHHHH

[bleak quiver]

catalyst

[tranquil umbra]

bro

[delicate wren]

i thought it didnt have the mana part

lmao

i thought the catalyst was life only

[sleek barn]

220 div

oh man

that is one hell of a ring

[bleak quiver]

you can also get -8 from temple mod

only goes to 9 with quality tho

[tranquil umbra]

is recoup actually that good

[sleek barn]

depends

[hidden plinth]

Victario/Veruso/Brass Dome

[bleak quiver]

the brass doome is not goood

its the lleast garbage

[hidden plinth]

Lolwut

[tranquil umbra]

cannot have es ruined his life

[bleak quiver]

btw

[hidden plinth]

So true king

[tranquil umbra]

kek

[split pagoda]

it would be kinda nice if it didnt remove es yeah

No idea why they slapped that on there

The no life from strength thing is already harsh

[tranquil umbra]

it's their first try at smth like this in a non phrecia league

[hidden plinth]

Because the OG has it

You can either wear two Brass Domes or Brass Dome + Giga Armor Chest

[split pagoda]

Dont think it does

[tranquil umbra]

yeah it does not

[bleak quiver]

yeah, it very much does not

[tranquil umbra]

tbf

brass dome is really strong when it's not eating your body armour slot

I can understand why they added it

but it was slightly overtuned

which makes sense considering it's their first round with reliquarian

[hidden plinth]

It's still more than servicable

[bleak quiver]

yeah, when the others look like this

[split pagoda]

Yeah its a solid node just not strong enough to where they needed to put that on there

[tranquil umbra]

I think removing the body armour doubling would have been better than adding the no ES restriction

which I still don't know why they added

[split pagoda]

They can just not have the es restriction and its fine

[bleak quiver]

yeah, no restriction is fine

still would be a ok-ass node

[modest depot]

next pain league is ascendant vs reliquarian to see which is better lol

[hidden plinth]

Veruso's Ambition
Victario's Influence

[bleak quiver]

veruso ambitions is a 9%ter, and victarios is for a very specific subset of builds, calling it niche is a overstatement

i like the victarios one tho, i think its one of the cooler ones they presented

[hidden plinth]

Veruso is 15%

[bleak quiver]

not on sc trade at least

[split pagoda]

I saw but wish it was hc

[hidden plinth]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Ravenous

The node grants the same level as the item

[bleak quiver]

yeah, i know

its not good

[devout shoal]

6h38m new best

by half an hour

ssfhc fresh stash 0 gold btw

[hidden plinth]

15% More Damage is bad, bruh

[bleak quiver]

come on man, you cant be seriously saying that

its like saying arctic armour is just 20% less dmg taken

[tranquil umbra]

yeah idk about veluso

[limpid prairie]

bossing is a farming strat or something

[hidden plinth]

Meanwhile, as people slot it Arctic Armor for exactly that reason

[tranquil umbra]

???

oh this is eater

[bleak quiver]

yeah, cuz arctic armour is actually good...

[tranquil umbra]

arctic armour is like

[limpid prairie]

from reddit

[tranquil umbra]

actually carries its weight

considering it's only 25% reservation

[bleak quiver]

its a dope ass skill yeah, even more with pof sublime

[tranquil umbra]

and doesn't need setup like ravenous

[bleak quiver]

pof sublime, 100% phys as, and any skill that considers itself stationary, crazy shit

[pulsar ice]

[limpid prairie]

artic armour is pretty practical for flicker
if not fake

[frigid wedge]

does melee crit multi apply to uh

melle skill projectiles

[bleak quiver]

yes

[frigid wedge]

excellent

[bleak quiver]

as long as they have melee tag

[frigid wedge]

cb jewel for adorned for 60c time

:D

[bleak quiver]

i think ls ones dont for example

[frigid wedge]

oh

gee

[tranquil umbra]

yeah they don't

like molten strike

[frigid wedge]

that woulda been helpful

xD

[frigid wedge]

yay

[nocturne maple]

If it was something like crit multi to melee skills, that would work

[bleak quiver]

yeah, if its skills its aok, like from tree

[hidden plinth]

@bleak quiver Burden of Shadows reliquarian node?

[fossil mural]

doing eater after day 2 💀

[bleak quiver]

what about it?

[limpid prairie]

eating your own money yah...

[hidden plinth]

You've been on a dunk Reliquarian thing, I want to know your thoughts

[bleak quiver]

its cool i guess?

[frigid wedge]

cb jewel attempt 2

[tidal geode]

can multiple people unlock the same hideout in map?

[lean urchin]

ye

[bleak quiver]

yes

[tidal geode]

ok

[bleak quiver]

you can sell some rare ones for profit

it is a anoying wait tho

[steep sphinx]

anyone tried to automate contagion when playing BoC?

[tidal geode]

I currently have the haunted one open

[frigid wedge]

cwc

[tidal geode]

ho much does it goes for

[frigid wedge]

not much compared to others

[tidal geode]

thanks

[full fossil]

how is this dude applying wither? https://pobb.in/8dw-gDuimVkb

[bleak quiver]

yeah, automating the chaos piano builds is not easy

[frigid wedge]

what if i fracture

hmmm

50 50

[steep sphinx]

finally res uncapped

[frigid wedge]

wooo

[stuck phoenix]

Swapping build?

[lean urchin]

"stay at home" build. elements hurt

[full fossil]

anyone know? xd im confuse

[bleak quiver]

he isnt

[full fossil]

why is it in the config then

[split maple]

wine has wither card right 😛

[bleak quiver]

wine can give it i guess

[full fossil]

it does?

[dark kite]

gloom shrine?

[full fossil]

gloom shrine can apply wither?

[split maple]

yeah but you only have one card at a time

so uptime is like 0

[bleak quiver]

it cant

[dark kite]

i think thetes a shrine that can

[steep sphinx]

actually its a BoC build I sold off everything on and Im coming back to it cuz after 5 builds, I realised BoC is the only one I liked

[short prairie]

Does debuff on you expire % faster work on maven no regen debuff

[bleak quiver]

no, no shrine gives wither

[frigid wedge]

interesting

[bleak quiver]

his only possible sources are wine, imbue that he did not add, or he's just faking it

[short prairie]

Where’s crit multi suffix

[steep sphinx]

rate the fit chat 🥶

[bleak quiver]

wrong megalo is also an option

[steep sphinx]

time to sell my 1000d spark setup brb

[split palm]

Offer 3c

[steep sphinx]

too much

[bleak quiver]

isnt her debuff one of those that decays after exposure?

[short prairie]

?

[surreal mulch]

how would "you don't recover" scale effect?

it's binary

[bleak quiver]

yeah, i tough it was 100% less recovery

it just flat no recovery for 10 seconds

[surreal mulch]

I mean tbf it should be

while the lasers aren't impossible to dodge it does particularly fuck up life cost builds

[tranquil umbra]

I got touched by a laser with my bannerman

exploded myself

[surreal mulch]

show on the doll where she touched you

[bleak quiver]

it should be affected by debuff duration

[stuck phoenix]

Headhunter :p

[short prairie]

I just kms with annihilations approach

[bleak quiver]

at least by the poedb tags

[stuck phoenix]

Actually there isn't any monster mod that inflicts wither is there

[bleak quiver]

its also pretty cheap

[bleak quiver]

there is

[stuck phoenix]

Is there

[split maple]

isnt it a map mod

not monster mod

[stuck phoenix]

Yes

[bleak quiver]

there is a map mod yeah

[surreal mulch]

essence

[limpid prairie]

he has clicked unholy might

i win i found it

[stuck phoenix]

What

[full fossil]

what

[stuck phoenix]

Where

[bleak quiver]

yeah, he has unholy might clicked

[stuck phoenix]

Does he get that from

[bleak quiver]

but he has no source of it

[modest depot]

thats the neat thing

he doesn't

[tranquil umbra]

we love pob padding

[limpid prairie]

you can add unholy mught with no source yeah
not hard to get unholy might

btw

cause its on chaos clusters

[sleek barn]

no look guys

[limpid prairie]

just sac one unspeakeable gifts and its real

[bleak quiver]

chaos, crit and megalo

[sleek barn]

its from wine of the prophet!!!

[tranquil umbra]

oh my god bruh

[bleak quiver]

yeah, thats what we where talking about

[limpid prairie]

this easy to have real DPS bruh why they padding

[stuck phoenix]

Ezpz

[split maple]

never attribute to malice what you can attribute to skill issues

[bleak quiver]

its not even a build that the pob matters cuz its charlatan and hh

[sleek barn]

this can be flavor text

[full fossil]

@lusty crescent its crashing fr

[split maple]

divination card for wine hmm

[full fossil]

told you it would be below 1.6k by tonight xd

[tranquil umbra]

tf did they do

[bleak quiver]

league deadge

[tranquil umbra]

did they really farm that many damnations

[stuck phoenix]

Wtf

[sleek barn]

buy the dip guys

[stuck phoenix]

Stock unique market crash

[bleak quiver]

the damnation bubble burst

[tranquil umbra]

has anyone gotten osin in ssf

[full fossil]

im glad i bought 5 osins at 1.5mir each before the inflation then when fubgooner tlaked about it, i sold that shit at the high of 5mir each

peak 😂

[frigid wedge]

yes

[short prairie]

It should’ve been wtdamn

[frigid wedge]

great hateforges

[native abyss]

join the blight alliance today

[tranquil umbra]

crazy brick

[short prairie]

Quin on last uber boss

The maven

[stuck phoenix]

Slam it with tainted ex

Because why not

Well, unless you think it's currently valuable of course

[short prairie]

Slam tainted bido

[stuck phoenix]

What

[steep sphinx]

finnaly, I hate pricing shit bro

[bleak quiver]

give it a funny name and blame someone

[short prairie]

Bow spark

[sleek barn]

its fair

[steep sphinx]

anime princess

[sleek barn]

widowhail

is that accel shrine

[steep sphinx]

yeah, with lvl 10 faster proj and like 237%

[steep sphinx]

diamond

[surreal mulch]

runegraft of the draft

[steep sphinx]

anime princess guide so

[surreal mulch]

50% chance to avoid being conscripted

[frigid wedge]

i wonder if im more deficient in % or flat

hm

mana

[short prairie]

Mama

[bleak quiver]

flat mana is generally rarer, thanks in part to choir

specially after the int nerfs

[tacit crow]

hello

[bleak quiver]

-2

[frigid wedge]

choir not an option

[mental nymph]

Hi Kafka

Hi eri

[short prairie]

Quin did it

[tacit crow]

hello

[short prairie]

Quin beat the game

[bleak quiver]

then the +10x test is up next, +100 mana or 10% inc mana in pob

[short prairie]

Quin beat all Ubers after 3 years

[tranquil umbra]

aintnoway

[frigid wedge]

hi boyar

[tranquil umbra]

he's a real gamer now

[bleak quiver]

miracles do happen

[short prairie]

[native abyss]

W quin

his stream has so many tink noises

[tawdry olive]

holy i was watching it through lance stream

[short prairie]

His sub alert is tink

[native abyss]

hes getting rich wtf

[bleak quiver]

real life tink

[native abyss]

I need that

[short prairie]

$5 tinks

[cosmic eagle]

ill tink you up

[bleak quiver]

yeah, irl you get like $20 every hour for 8 hours or so, $5 tinks every few minutes is insane

[twin arch]

Wait

quin

Has never beat poe before

what?

He streams it like all the time

:weird:

[short prairie]

Quin blocked the maven fireball while half hp

[tranquil umbra]

by beating we mean killing all ubers

[twin arch]

Ya

[nocturne maple]

he has beaten all ubers before I think?

[short prairie]

And no regen

[nocturne maple]

but it's been so long

[twin arch]

idk

[cosmic eagle]

lets just say the initial bv cast when you enter the map goes to 0, is it ok to cast bv again or i need to go home and recast it again in the map?

[short prairie]

2 years ago

[twin arch]

Beating all ubers

Is it that hard?

Im out here farming uber feared

[nocturne maple]

hcssf

[twin arch]

a

Ok

Xdd

[bleak quiver]

open a new map, that one is done, gg

[sage falcon]

entering mirage also respawns spectres

[nocturne maple]

quin is actually a good poe player contrary to his reputation

[bleak quiver]

yeah, he's not bad, he's very good, he just has that really annoying persona that is bad at games = funny

[short prairie]

he’s been playing the game for 10 years

[cosmic eagle]

i see i see, so whatever happens i need to let that bv counter not go to 0 then

is it ok tho to spam it while its still up?

[bleak quiver]

yeah

[cosmic eagle]

aight

i was dozing off until i transition to bv actual giga build

[elfin shale]

huh, since we have imbues Hungry Loop is a six-link now isnt it

[halcyon flicker]

yes

[cosmic eagle]

yep

[elfin shale]

For all your 4 - 5 six link needs

[halcyon flicker]

actually it can have 5 support gems no?

[elfin shale]

whatever the fuck those are

Zoomancer i guess?

probably needs that

[cosmic eagle]

using it on vaal absolution was so good on clear

ziz also used it

[tranquil umbra]

you can volatile it

[halcyon flicker]

awor build uses it

[tranquil umbra]

and have it roll 5 supports

[cosmic eagle]

before transitioning to pure frostbearer spec

[sleek barn]

wouldn't you slap it into a diallas instead

[tranquil umbra]

so you can literally make it a 6-link

[bleak quiver]

they dont have quality or 21 tho unfortunately

[halcyon flicker]

build was made before PoB added imbue functionality so its melee splash