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[cosmic eagle]

[bleak quiver]

rip again

3

[cosmic eagle]

es, dot multi and life?

[molten hazel]

how it feels to fail mists

[bleak quiver]

life dot dmg

[cosmic eagle]

it will hit on the 4th mist

surely

[bleak quiver]

i will keep going till it hit, have nothing else to buy anymore

[molten hazel]

whats your budget before you go broke XD

[bleak quiver]

another 500d

maybe some more

the rings are cheap

[cosmic eagle]

10 more mist

[molten hazel]

surely you hit before that

[cold sable]

i just dropped my first mirror ever

holey fuckign moley

[cosmic eagle]

gz

[bleak quiver]

dont say it out loud, the mafia will come for you

[pulsar ice]

damn 400k gold in 1 map

[cosmic eagle]

i am your bro dont forget about me

[cold sable]

i heard the tink and was running around thinking it wqas a divine

and came back

and wtf.

[bleak quiver]

and another one

[pulsar ice]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[bleak quiver]

and another fail

[timid crow]

There really needs to be a more pronounced thing that happens when a mirror drops as opposed to divines... i just hate to have to redo it every time i want to update my loot filter.

[bleak quiver]

in the custom section

just add override mirror with something you want

and it will never be gone when you update

[pulsar ice]

isn't it kind of a purpose of tinks that you are reacting to it whatever it is

[short prairie]

what do ppl use this for

[bleak quiver]

he has tentacles

[short prairie]

now i understand

[cosmic eagle]

i adjusted my filter coz i was going crazy some tinks in my filter are 1c uniques

[timid crow]

yeah, that... goes out the window when you do 3 weeks of non-stop temple farming in poe 2... the tinks have no meaning anymore

[pulsar ice]

poe2

[timid crow]

thanks for the tip

[cosmic eagle]

any nice build uses this?

[bleak quiver]

besides relic of the pact, no

[pulsar ice]

some early league starter builds do

[bleak quiver]

its just a way to mage pobs look good

[pulsar ice]

like relic of the pact yeah

but long term it's a bait item to build around

you'll be dying too much to random DoTs you can't get immunity to

[gritty garnet]

also a min roll

[pulsar ice]

well you can 3 to 1 them, so low rolls are still selling

[bleak quiver]

now that you mention it... ive done like, 5k ultis this league... and never saw it... i dont think its enabled in my filter...

ok, it was cheap this league

[normal hedge]

AG of smiting

[cold sable]

how rare is a mirror compared to a lock

[normal hedge]

Yes

[bleak quiver]

3 to a mirror or something

[cold sable]

no way XD

i dont think i have ever dropped one

[pulsar ice]

damn I really want to corrupt all my stuff for that blood barrier but it's more than 50% chance to brick at least one item

[normal hedge]

thats fine

Just craft again

[cold sable]

i think i got pretty lucky i remember reading reddi tposts about peopel with 10k hours and no mirror

[bleak quiver]

actually, no, 3 locks to a mirror sry

[bleak quiver]

yep, me

no mirror in sight yet

[cold sable]

i have only 1.1k hours

[pulsar ice]

oh I forgor about locks, but I'll only use them on my helmet, shield's not that hard to remake

[normal hedge]

thats just ultimatum warrior

[cosmic eagle]

they should put locks in that ring

[bleak quiver]

yeah, im playing cws

[silent thistle]

The only time i ever got mirrors was when i played groupplay

[normal hedge]

Im at 1300 divines, 90 sacreds, 0 mirrors and 8 locks

[silent thistle]

But that is to be expected

[normal hedge]

But i stopped playing already

[silent thistle]

When you run 6 man with magicfind and aurabot

[pulsar ice]

90 sacreds

[silent thistle]

Never dropped 1 while solo tho

[bleak quiver]

ive only dropped 1 lock that dupped

[pulsar ice]

I had a mirror drop in a random 4 mod t16 map with alch and go breach a while back

[silent thistle]

Nice

I should go 6 manning next league again time to print mirrors again

[bleak quiver]

welp, back to misting rings...

[pulsar ice]

Yeah and I managed to be more poor than I am this league

[opaque sphinx]

bruh is hot the only autobomber thats not dot

[silent thistle]

I mean being poor is normal

Even in standard

Crafting be expensive

[opaque sphinx]

cheaper than buying 99% of t he time

[bleak quiver]

hidden blade, ward loop and cws hit based

[silent thistle]

95%

[opaque sphinx]

hidden blade is shit unless u cf it

[silent thistle]

None of the items i need are cheaper to craft

[bleak quiver]

nah, you can do abyss jewel stacking too

[worthy sentinel]

first time i saw silk in this game, thought it was orochimaru

[bleak quiver]

it still not that good, but way better than cf

[silent thistle]

The chestplate is gonna take an expected 20ish mirror

[opaque sphinx]

hmm

[bleak quiver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPtHe761fI0

[silent thistle]

The dagger more like 50ish because of how expensive cruicible tree bases are

[bleak quiver]

lag machine

anyway, 5th?

gg

omega low roll :^)

[silent thistle]

Rip

[bleak quiver]

i think its actually min roll

no, a bit abve min, would be 22% multi

[glossy condor]

I see people taking Axe Mastery (1) 30% increased Damage while in Blood Stance 15% increased Area of Effect while in Sand Stance mastery, but how are they enabling the effects? i dont see the blood and sand gem being used me very confusion

[pulsar ice]

damn, I bought out basically the whole market on life reservation rings with NNN mods now all that's left is 50c rings

[bleak quiver]

default is sand, and you can use flesh and stone to get the aoe

[silent thistle]

Sell em for 4x

[gritty garnet]

no, default is blood

[pulsar ice]

I guess I can recomb then myself. Although recombing a base to use for recombing later seems like pain

[muted ledge]

is there any benefit to rolling nightmare maps for kingsmarch mappers

[gritty garnet]

it tells you when you hold alt when looking at the mastery

[silent thistle]

No it just random chances if xyz bad thing happens iirc

[glossy condor]

okay i see at the bottom

[bleak quiver]

oh yeah, it is blood, weird, the gem itself defaults to sand

[silent thistle]

Ive had mappers die in white t1 maps

[short walrus]

The ups and downs of end of league gambling

[gritty garnet]

gamble back up to another mb

[muted ledge]

yea but does rolling them high improve the result?

[silent thistle]

Well loot yes

[muted ledge]

but the question is how much do the stats matter when it seems like its binary: if 100% completion, get one uber frag.

or if they can get more than that

[silent thistle]

But from my data gathering it really doesnt matter what mods are on the map i have the same completion rate for t16 8 mod corrupted and t16 whites for mappers

Keep in mind tho this is only 7 weeks of data so might be non sufficient data set

[muted ledge]

okay, it sounds like it really doesnt matter since frags are most important and rolling doesnt seem to matter in that respect

[silent thistle]

I mean give me like another 20 weeks and ill have sufficient data

[muted ledge]

i do want that data

[pulsar ice]

economy's so bad I have to start selling my first doryani's rings

[silent thistle]

-77 light res hurts

[pulsar ice]

kind of the point

[muted ledge]

bro is on that absolution

[silent thistle]

Im aware

[silent thistle]

Im releasing that later this year im running this with a few friends to speed up sample size

[pulsar ice]

I'm vaaling my backup shield for fun

damn...

good thing it was a backup

[worthy sentinel]

anyone ever tried saying whakawairua aloud cuz im too stupid to get passed the first four letters it seems

[bleak quiver]

used to hear that 100x times a day, yeah

[worthy sentinel]

my brain just breaks mid word and nothing comes out

[onyx adder]

Its maori

"Wh" is close enough to "F"

[bleak quiver]

o7 haku

[worthy sentinel]

oh im trying to do it in english and its coming out like spaghetti

[silent thistle]

Whoever did the phoenetic translation for that language needs to get fired

[onyx adder]

Better than mandarin

[worthy sentinel]

i like its its the funniest map name ever 😄

its right up there with my favorite ring kikazaru

[silent thistle]

Oh the guy that did mandarin is already 6 feet under cant complain to him

[onyx adder]

I mean the treaty of waitangi was signed in like 1841 or something, im assuming the guy that did maori is also super dead lmao

[silent thistle]

But yeah some of these languages just have the worst phoentic translation i have ever had the displeseur of seeing

[onyx adder]

Pinyin letter c is an actual warcrime

[muted ledge]

is refiner's bargain good now?

[pulsar ice]

english language phonetics in general are the worst I ever seen to be fair

[bleak quiver]

yes

use it with ore farming with niko

[muted ledge]

word

[bleak quiver]

but ore farming itself is mid

[silent thistle]

More importantly thank god nobody plays coc cyclone my stuff is so cheap

[bleak quiver]

so...

[muted ledge]

nah

[twin arch]

pop quiz

[worn drift]

what are these jewels that have something of coins and conquered by the empire

[twin arch]

what is the starting skill gem granted from the hungry corpse when playing as Scion

[bleak quiver]

spectral throw

[twin arch]

that response took too long

:suseg:

[bleak quiver]

im playing the game

[twin arch]

whats the support gem from the chest

then

[bleak quiver]

primstatic burst

[twin arch]

ya

Unique Threshold Jewels are no longer offered as a quest reward for completing "Death to Purity" in Act 5. Instead, you are now offered a choice of a Rare Crimson, Rare Cobalt, or Rare Viridian Jewel.
The following Unique Jewels can no longer be obtained: First Snow, Frozen Trail, Growing Agony, Overwhelming Odds, Rapid Expansion, Steel Spirit, Weight of the Empire, and Winter Burial.

but y tho

[sage falcon]

wdym y tho

those were threshold jewels no?

[twin arch]

steel spirit was funny

yeah

[sage falcon]

thereshold jewels dont exist anymore

[twin arch]

yeah

as of 3.17

ytho

Spirit Guards...

[stuck phoenix]

Transfigured Gems took their place

[twin arch]

ahj

that tracks

[onyx adder]

Every time somebody types 3.17 in chat i spiritually rip to exarch burning ground again

At this point I think its ptsd

[twin arch]

3.17

[onyx adder]

+1 walk of shame

[umbral crag]

3.17

[opaque sphinx]

how trolling is it to not click golems as elem

[pulsar ice]

depends, I'd assume it's fine if your build has high socket pressure

[onyx adder]

Golems solve a lot of issues

If ur not a dot build AND u dont use aoe AND u dont have mana problems its fine i think

[short prairie]

Tbh prismatic burst with the new cooldown recover gem might actually work

[surreal mulch]

how does one solve phys damage on apostate builds?

[opaque sphinx]

hmm

[pulsar ice]

just a really high hitpool, no? maybe endurance charges

[opaque sphinx]

prob have plenty aoe anyway

[surreal mulch]

I guess hitpool

can't even have pdr chest goddamn

[onyx adder]

Are u running rathpith etc

Its hard to rely on ur hp pool if ur using it to do dps

[opaque sphinx]

ele won't scale this shock effect on urself right

[surreal mulch]

rathpith crown of eyes doesn't actually spend that much life afaik

because yk it's on cast

[stuck phoenix]

You get 60% from just being at level 21

Are you sure you can spend a gem slot on that

I don't think you can justify it

[opaque sphinx]

how self shock

[stuck phoenix]

And that's assuming you're not shako for the 90% instead

[sleek verge]

Are golems is bad?

[cold sable]

how can i search trade site for a screams of the deccesiated belt with diamond + another shrine buff without putting in a specific second shrine buff

want to see the prices of gettng another shrine and how expensive / which is the cheapest

[stuck phoenix]

Count group

Manually add each roll

Not like you'd be likely to be fine with any shrine anyways

[vital bough]

do i ever get pants lol

[cosmic sapphire]

no, and it really wont matter as you keep progressing as you'll kind of lose track of your character model

[onyx adder]

Rathpith coe is fine for that yer

[cold sable]

what gems are the most efficient to level up to sell on offhand

[full kraken]

take a look at 21/20 gems on poe ninja

[vital bough]

oh goodness absolution build wipes everything

[warm vector]

Hi everyone I have a question if I can annoint replica stampede what is the difference between the replica and the normal stampade is it only the cooldown thing?

[twin arch]

Templar with no pants

This is why i give him mtx

[stuck phoenix]

Might I recommend an item filter

Also uh challenge rewards might have pants. Maybe

[stuck phoenix]

The difference is the stats written on them

[vital bough]

yeah gonna need one, was thinking about it

[sleek verge]

No pants for you, my brother.

[vital bough]

i got so lucky with shield gamba

[drowsy eagle]

that shield should have "cannot block projectiles"

[vital bough]

fair enough

[onyx adder]

It should have a different base

[stuck phoenix]

The hide was hidden

Hide so raw it hasn't been made yet

[onyx adder]

Its supposed to be a spider on a web but because its on this 2x4 base the art makes it look like its on my fucking garden fence

[stuck phoenix]

Clearly the cobwebs will handle it

[onyx adder]

Would have been 10x better on an evasion base

[charred sigil]

Which map layout has the highest chance of getting the map boss into the mirage zone?

City Square? Ashen Forest?

[onyx adder]

Probably city square now they fixed it

Most strats want city square anyway since its got more boss drops and whatnot

[short prairie]

Moar the marrier

[stuck phoenix]

I'd like some damage as well

What even is that in dps

100% inc from base should be 100% more dps

So like

Going from 190 to 230 should be a lot less valuable

[stuck phoenix]

Like a 20% dps gem?

And if you're in shako, you're already short on gems anyways

So the standard is even higher

But even if not now you just don't have any damage and going a bad dps gem feels even worse because you really need that damage

Unless of course you already oneshot and value the 20% speed boost

I don't think it's worth

At all

Especially considering I can only imagine that support is expensive

Or is it cheap

[candid stag]

Is str stacking smite of divine judgment ssf viable ?

[full kraken]

Ive found abomination super often has the boss in it

[onyx adder]

As with any ssf stacker ur locked in [random farming content here] jail for way longer than u would in trade

Whether thats heist for jewelry and replica albies, simu for splits, apoths for MB

As long as u go in with that attitude and ur ok with respeccing a bunch then yea sure its doable

[woeful yacht]

nah fuck apoths for mb

[short prairie]

cdr is like inc aspd for prismatic burst

you want to clear faster vs you want bigger damage numbers

i dont use warriors legacy simply because it gives 20 less aspd

for 100% more damage

[stuck phoenix]

Correct. Nobody uses faster attacks on their main dps.

You shot yourself in the foot with that analogy

Xd

[short prairie]

the problem is there are no other easy sources to reduce cd compared to aspd

[woeful yacht]

it's ssf doable but also most of the ppl playing str stack ssf got lucky on an uber unique

[short prairie]

do you have cdr on your weapon?

no

[stuck phoenix]

This also is a terrible comparison. You can't compare a 20% more aps with 20% less aps 100% more damage

If you think you have the damage though, go for it. I don't think you do

[short prairie]

good comparison, cuz i dont use it

and most dont use it

slower is generally bad

[stuck phoenix]

Shrug

I'll also point out that 20% less = 25% more

So the numbers are different

I see plenty of people use 10% slower support

And as much as you won't find a ton of cdr

You can find some

Which probably makes your support even worse

And if you actually wanted 45% cdr from it that's 16d

Though the support is less expensive than I expected if you don't

[rocky glade]

Is there a way to counter Crit Resistant mobs

Even when I go crit the game still has ways to counter me it seems

[gritty garnet]

nope

[drowsy eagle]

how do you scale poison on a 91% damage skill

[rocky glade]

Some Trans gems are just for the lolz

[stuck phoenix]

Shotgun

[drowsy eagle]

spinehail seems okay

or ballista and rain of splinter

[short prairie]

it's still a 15% more damage support with max level 35 shako

smh pob doesnt calculate cdr dps increases with prismatic burst

what a joke

[onyx adder]

Something something 2x0 something something something

[livid quarry]

didnt know helicals were so pain to craft

[onyx adder]

Depends on the craft, but yes crafting helical is often hard and helical without a fracture often heinous

[short prairie]

it does 5k damage

not 0

[full kraken]

👀

[short prairie]

insane damage

[simple stag]

Guys my best idea for currency sink is to make adorned synth jewels I need a specialist

[short prairie]

just buy an adorned 100%, 30 3 synth implicit magic jewels, 5 1p voices and travel around the world on passive tree

[simple stag]

i got a 97 i dont think im gonna pay a mirror for 3% more any time soon xd

such wild minmax prices

[stuck phoenix]

Depressing from a support

[drowsy eagle]

I FORGOT TO PAUSE

[stuck phoenix]

Trolled

[gritty garnet]

how much ritual favour do you think you're worth

[bleak quiver]

mercs treated us as pinacles, so probably a lot

[stray sedge]

OOF, those 1 min grace periods don't hit the same once you start getting older

[full kraken]

I think I mightve hit my upper limit for now til I get my better weapon upgrade, this fight out-attritions me

its the chance to avoid impale that really fucks me

[muted ledge]

dangit JeeJeeJee

[short prairie]

Welcome back to scssf

[surreal mulch]

players have the same power as a magic mob

[surreal mulch]

get reflect immune

[drowsy eagle]

Deleted, that's the rule

[surreal mulch]

oh wait no avoid

nvm

[short prairie]

come on… join us in scssf

[tawdry olive]

One day all of them will come back to haunt you like Sirus

[tawdry olive]

I dropped a mageblood while doing scssf 2 stones

[short prairie]

Alright go back to your sc trade

Don’t talk to me again

[full kraken]

whoever said that 1S1P will produce a different outcome from 2S for woke orb hitting same mod, definitely not true, its consistently the exact same outcome on the item

[livid quarry]

how hard is it to craft a str stacker amulet

the dmg per str

dunno

[split maple]

Ask sage

[livid quarry]

@opal ingot how hard is it to craft str stacker amulet

should i buy at 184d

[earnest raven]

Simplex base or standard base?

[livid quarry]

simp

[earnest raven]

What stats u looking for? Dmg per str, str, attr?

[livid quarry]

yea

[earnest raven]

https://youtu.be/gx8rmW-miyU?si=apWWCT-p-_B3q4mY

[surreal mulch]

what does eternal youth actually do for you

is it just like meh recovery

[split maple]

At 184d I would buy

Its kinda painge craft

[opaque sphinx]

how troll does it sound to play hot without annhilating light

[split maple]

Folks combo it with zealot oath for rf

[opaque sphinx]

actually

[surreal mulch]

oh yeah rf

[tranquil umbra]

zealot oath + rf + eternal youth + coruscating

[split maple]

WTD wtf is that nick

[onyx adder]

Annihilating light isnt even that good once u consider the limits it puts on ur other gear

[opaque sphinx]

nice ok

[short prairie]

Nick

[opaque sphinx]

so like nebulis and es on block shield is decent

wait no es on block

[tranquil umbra]

that's why you volatile orb it

[sinful cove]

Poe 1 help 2 channel is talking crazy about pedos and shit… Weirdo shit….

[opaque sphinx]

foulborn esh

[onyx adder]

Its a lot less dmg obviously

[opaque sphinx]

fuck

[onyx adder]

But u dont have to wear annihilating light

[opaque sphinx]

can i get like 10m without it do u think

i swapped to elem

[onyx adder]

U couldnt get 2m with a doryanis on yesterday

[charred condor]

Hola

[opaque sphinx]

ok fair but that was dumb and without lone messenger

new plan is ele with foulborn esh shield and lycia bloodline

[tranquil umbra]

are you gonna do arrogance herald of thunder

and then pblood

[onyx adder]

Esh shield is good item for hot

[opaque sphinx]

no arrogance it down to 1%

foulborn esh has chaos does not bypass es while not on low mana

and since u barely cast stuff with hot u never really go low mana

[tranquil umbra]

ic

[opaque sphinx]

im assuming nebulis is the best mainhand but a +2 w/ light dmg or min dmg and multi might be better

[tranquil umbra]

best mainhand is annihilating but

yeah you get the idea

[opaque sphinx]

well yeah but i mean 1hand

[short prairie]

Why nebulis so popular all the sudden

[split maple]

Got giga buffed last league

[opaque sphinx]

its just a lot of inc dmg and was buffed recently

[short prairie]

[tranquil umbra]

what are your reservations btw

is it just tempest shield hot

[split maple]

450% increased is kinda good who wouldve thought 😄

[opaque sphinx]

u need 90 all res to make use of it and chief does that easily + mb characters so naturally later the league goes, better it is

[opaque sphinx]

thats the plan i think

might not need tempest shield but we'll see

[tranquil umbra]

I mean you can't really

reserve anything else

[opaque sphinx]

with a tiny bit of MRE u can

[short prairie]

more like 450+54+102(if corrupted) increase @split maple

[opaque sphinx]

use like wrath

[tranquil umbra]

bruv

read Lone Messenger

[opaque sphinx]

oh yeah

[onyx adder]

💀

[opaque sphinx]

I FORGOT ok the last setup didn't have messenger on it

[tranquil umbra]

are you on coming calamity or no

for lycia

[opaque sphinx]

no the plan is to reserve like 99% life

[onyx adder]

He wants to reserve down to 1% life

[tranquil umbra]

yeah yeah ok

[split maple]

Volatile it

[short prairie]

Not until I get a lock

[split maple]

Fair

[short prairie]

Drayfuzz has 3 locks alr

I don’t even know how

[split maple]

How tf

Install his client

[short prairie]

I got like 30 sacreds

[split maple]

Okay surely he didn't drop 3 locks before companionship rite

[short prairie]

He did

He got 2 vivid vultures too

I grinded 6 days haven’t seen a single vulture

[opaque sphinx]

its not worth pathing bottom left just for block right

[steel light]

they smell you and left

[split maple]

Can impossible escape iron reflexes for block or smh?

[split maple]

There is a nice wheel in radius

[tranquil umbra]

from duelist area?

[opaque sphinx]

nah ele

[tranquil umbra]

oh you changed your mind

good.

[opaque sphinx]

yeah i really wanted to make glad work but i just couldn't find a feasible way really, none of the nodes work with it

can't get enough dmg

[tranquil umbra]

you could still get the block nodes near templar area

those are good

[opaque sphinx]

yeah i got most of those

might just use blood magic imposs

inexorable and as the mountain are both good

[split maple]

Templar socket is kinda giga for red nightmare

If you can fix block via that

[opaque sphinx]

we don't really use the life but that could work

[tranquil umbra]

yes you do buddy it's time for ivory tower

[opaque sphinx]

nope

[bleak quiver]

skin of the lords with blood magic is a option

[tranquil umbra]

you don't get to choose

[opaque sphinx]

nope we need our mana

[split maple]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1snwvhj/arrogance_herald_of_thunder_farewell_to_flesh/

Did you see this one kira

[tranquil umbra]

he doesn't want blood magic

[bleak quiver]

oh, its impossible escape blood magic, read it wrong

[opaque sphinx]

i did not, just been trying to throw stuff at the wall lmao

[split maple]

Its Anni light setup so not as interesting :p

But kinda rly precise Life reservation

99.66%

[tranquil umbra]

I really would look into ivory tower for this build especially since you are not exactly using your mana pool

it's just a really fat amount of es and lets you not have to use esh mirror

[onyx adder]

Esh mirror is rly good damage for hot autobomber its entirely reasonable to use that item even if u arent using the shav effect

Generic flat is kinda hard to find in 2026 also means u dont need to stack gem levels so much

[opaque sphinx]

i can just use a 1k+ regalia tho

[tranquil umbra]

ig

[opaque sphinx]

is it bad im debating playing it as occy and just ff shaper of storms

[tranquil umbra]

[opaque sphinx]

cuz vile bastion expensive af

[bleak quiver]

isnt the esh's shield mod the same one from grasping?

[tranquil umbra]

the what

[opaque sphinx]

grasping mail

[tranquil umbra]

idt grasping mail has chaos damage does not bypass es

[bleak quiver]

oh its life instead of mana

[simple stag]

Is a +1 power+endurance+frenzy synth ring just for discharge

[bleak quiver]

sad

[livid quarry]

crazy str stacker is strong than frenzy stacking on same investment

[opaque sphinx]

foulborn one doesn't have that mod

visage has the bypass mod, mirror is the one with the flat

[livid quarry]

440 for i83 frenzy ring

[tranquil umbra]

it also has shock prolif but that's not super important

[livid quarry]

jesus i can almost build a whole str stacker

[tranquil umbra]

wtf

[livid quarry]

ikr helical are cheap too

only leag for me to try str stacking

since i dont farm much

[tawdry olive]

I failed misting a bunch of helicals a few weeks back

They can be harsh

[livid quarry]

dont need to mist

[tawdry olive]

Oh yea then it’s easy

[livid quarry]

ima use non mist for 200m dps

i rather get a mirror weapon instead of mist

[opaque sphinx]

it's actually really good i think

if i can self shock it frees up the need to do like cwdt ccrack lance

[bleak quiver]

you still need a way to shock to self shock

and it cant be tempest shield, nor the rings as you need to shock first to proc it

[glossy shell]

anyone in the loop for heavy strike of tarthus stacker who knows whos servicing the belt?

[split maple]

what smh like this?

https://www.thesettle.shop/

[glossy shell]

oh sushicord has it

idiot

tysm

idk why i didnt check there

[split maple]

i just realized i forgot to swap flesh and stone between builds yday

so thats why i was poping so much

[onyx adder]

Flesh and stone is a funny gem

[short prairie]

why not the cold ring...

[split maple]

hmm if i craft 2 of these i can drop bismuth flask for dying sun

[earnest raven]

Gz

[short prairie]

gz what

[livid quarry]

https://pobb.in/A6ukN1mqfdxG

[full kraken]

my mouse, or moonlight, or something, has a very annoying and scary bug that randomly happens where when I hold down alt it starts spamming left click

guess who just ripped a woke orb to that bug (thankfully I can just rollback the imprint, but rip my 5div)

[split palm]

Wtf

Not even fractured the fuck

[crisp obsidian]

Pob item

Pls

[pseudo crescent]

Hello exiles returning player here . In sanctum can lycia spawn in any run as the final boss ?

I did 2 and she did not appear the one was the quest and another one was at level 77

[full kraken]

IIRC its the ilvl of a T14 map or higher, i80+ i81?

[blazing nymph]

You gotta go down to the 4th level

She spawns in every sanctum, but there are three other bosses first

[blazing nymph]

I got my bloodline from a lvl68 tome

[pseudo crescent]

Yeah yeah i just figured thanks.

4 floors is gonna be rough i cant manage my resolve to save my life

[blazing nymph]

It can get easier with the right relics, but some builds just aren't very well suited to sanctum

[onyx adder]

Sanctum on build that needs to stand still for dps is usually a bit 💀

Theres that one room on floor 4 with the guard gauntlet and the rotating fire skulls

[surreal mulch]

apparently you need to evasion maxx unfortunately that's not viable anywhere else in the game

[split maple]

im not even sure whats the proper way to go bout it, at least i can be fine with any attr (omni) and any res (harvest swap)

so prolly frac 2 in 4 effect+t1 attr then cope

[pseudo crescent]

My er is ok its over 11k

[split maple]

i kinda wish foulborn exalts were way more common 😄

[pseudo crescent]

But i still lose resolve

[onyx adder]

Do u just wanna do it for the bloodline

[pseudo crescent]

Yep i need the chaos damage for unholy trinity

[surreal mulch]

consider foulborn nightmare jewel lol

[onyx adder]

U can buy an i68 book or whatever, theyre kinda pricey in trade im told tho

[surreal mulch]

they're pretty cool

[onyx adder]

Doesnt seem efficient to use whole ass 2 asc points just for support gem yeah

[surreal mulch]

give you any ele damage to chaos conversion

[pseudo crescent]

I kinda need it to convert my damage to chaos for venom gyre and yeah tomes at 68 lvl are 1300 chaos +

[blazing nymph]

Jesus, really? And i wasted mine on getting a bloodline i haven't even put points into yet...

[pseudo crescent]

Yeah they are either 1300 chaos or 4 divs

Crazy

Can you farm tomes in maps ?

Surely there are passives in atlas

[livid quarry]

which of these maps linear path or good for flicker

[blazing nymph]

I don't believe there's a way to target them, just random drops

[pseudo crescent]

Oof

[dense rock]

anything that is a big open area or a narrow tunnel or anything in between

[pseudo crescent]

Its gonna be a long ahh grind just to die at the second floor 🥲

[surreal mulch]

try searching for lvl 70 ones idk

[livid quarry]

i dont remember what they are like

but i think they suck

[split maple]

city square is in that quadrant right?

[livid quarry]

nope

[surreal mulch]

that's weird considering 83 tomes are less than 1c

maybe cap price to 10c then sort by item level

[blazing nymph]

Yeah it is, in the middle

[livid quarry]

oh kk

nbm

[pseudo crescent]

I will buy 78 for 1c ig

[livid quarry]

i lied 😄

[split maple]

coz folks mainly running t16 maps so ilvl83 tomes are very available

[livid quarry]

someone checked it for me

[split maple]

while ilvl68 tomes have value for for folks trying to get lycia

[surreal mulch]

I know I mean it's weird that it's THAT high

[pseudo crescent]

1300c is ridiculous for damn lycia

[surreal mulch]

there we go you can get a lvl74 tome for 20 chaos

really shouldn't be that hard

[pseudo crescent]

Yeah ig

I am lvl 92 ffs i can do 74 i think

[split maple]

get some resolve/inspiration related relics

make runs kinda free

[tawdry olive]

You might also find out that you are an actual sanctum enjoyer

It’s like coming out

[pseudo crescent]

Does this say no resolve loss am i missing something

[surreal mulch]

read it again

[cobalt blade]

Yes its saying your evasion wont give you chance to avoid resolve loss

[surreal mulch]

all unique relics are negative afaik

[cobalt blade]

You still lose resolve

[cobalt blade]

Yer

[pseudo crescent]

Oh yeah i am stupid

[split maple]

unique relics = make run harder for extra reward

non-unique relics = make run easier

[tawdry olive]

Buy the one called original scripture, trust

[split maple]

uniques are one-use only, non-unique are reusable

[surreal mulch]

relics = make run

I wonder if sanctum has literally any profit other than osin

or should I say more than 1 div per hour profit

[tawdry olive]

The league sanctum got nerfed I was reading a post from some gigazoomer saying they tried it day 1 then pivoted to heist real quick

Ended day 1 with banking currency into unsplit heist bases so they clearly knew what they were doing

[pseudo crescent]

Yeah seems perfectl for my run and its only 1200 divs 😬

[surreal mulch]

oh yeah I wonder if I should run heist if I have 400 move speed

[cobalt blade]

yes

full relic drop chance sell original scripture

[surreal mulch]

oh cool

[cobalt blade]

technically not osin profit

[surreal mulch]

yeah I mean fuck the card

I wonder if you need rarity

[cobalt blade]

no

It just always drops a unique relic

With enough relic quant on relics it drops 2

i cant remember if high enough gave you a chance for 3 just that you can guarantee 2 at some point

[surreal mulch]

oh cool

(I never beat lydia 1 lol)

she was like scary chasing you and there was weird shit coming

[bleak quiver]

i have no idea what she does cuz she's made out of shit

[cobalt blade]

Same

always gone pure glass cannon there since nothing deals dmg

[tawdry olive]

Yea I kinda just yolo and hope I have enough damage, doing it in an rf witch once was a little painge

Failed one run

[surreal mulch]

I wonder if my 800k dps cyclone is enough

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/830467480728109056.png?quality=lossless&name=oblivious&size=48

[split palm]

Frac 35%, and just keep spamming fire reforge.

[surreal mulch]

well currently it's actually a giga failed 100k dps static strike

[split palm]

Or roll attr

[surreal mulch]

I'm gonna be broke just on regret orbs

[split palm]

Life is bad, since you can get regen

And fire reforge is like

150/d, and you are guaranteed one affix

[surreal mulch]

I thought thunderfist paradoxica would be free giga damage but no it's not free whatsoever

[split maple]

can get 100% on relics guaranteeing 2, then enchanted urn boon scales that to 130%

so 30% for 3

[dense rock]

paradoxica tends to do that 😄

[split maple]

afaik cannot do better than that

[split palm]

Life reforge is like 75/1d, and 50/50 for the correct mod

And attribute is yellow juice xd

[split maple]

yea worst case scenario i can giga settle on life roll and maybe drop res/attr for a tier each

attribute is mirage lf thats kinda annoying 😛

[split palm]

You can get 3/4 easily tbh

Since you guarantee one

But the last one is just aids

(I've been clicking reforge fire for like 10hours total this league)

[cobalt blade]

Ah ye thats what it mightve been

[cobalt blade]

Well you still need increased and more dmg scalers

having yknow 2k flat damage but only 100% Inc dmg is gonna be shit

[surreal mulch]

i had like 260% increase

I think?

[elfin shale]

What happens if you astral project Dark Pact onto skeletons

Does it target the nearest enemy to the skeletons and use their life?

Rather than emanating from them

[cobalt blade]

Yer thats kinda on the low side

and not even getting into possible more multipliers loll

just tossing a light of meaning into some sockets would almost double that inc dmg

[dry tree]

Nova targeting: Dark Pact damages in a nova around either the player or the targeted skeletons. This behaviour can be altered by Astral Projector or Runegraft of the Novamark only if the skill is cast by sacrificing player life. Novae around skeletons are unaffected.

[elfin shale]

man i gotta ctrl+f the wiki instead of just glazing over it

reading hard

[dry tree]

Poe player spotted

[elfin shale]

HM

I can work with this

[opal ingot]

test

[elfin shale]

ONLY CAPPED RES

[onyx adder]

What are u trying to do

[full kraken]

okay so my theory was right, these high strands really areheavily weighting me towards T1 phys mods

[elfin shale]

Dark Pact skellies

[dreamy crane]

ive been trying to find a mageblkood build for like 3 hours😭

[full kraken]

I am very often seeing Merc, Dictator's, and Flaring show up

[dreamy crane]

i cant find anything decent

[elfin shale]

Player res more common than minion res so i figured just stack fire res but i cant have anything

[dreamy crane]

everything is like a mageblood plus another a half a mirror of currency

[elfin shale]

You can just slap mageblood into a leaguestarter or something

[dreamy crane]

is there any tanky build with like 20 mil dps and good clear with mageblood?

bruh that wouldnt do anything i would half to completely modify the pob to take advatage of it in a meaningful way

[split maple]

eh ele hit slayer prolly?

with like ruby, topaz, saphire, diamond

or ruby, granite, quicksilver, diamond if doing 70% cold/light as fire

maybe silver instead of quicksilver

[full kraken]

my build is tanky, closer to 30mil dps, but it uses crit shrine belt instead (crit + regen if you wanna be way tankier)

[dreamy crane]

how much is that build?

can i get it done with 150 div?

[dreamy crane]

ill look at that one

i was looking on poe ninja and everything

[full kraken]

hmmm, dunno what crit shrine belt is at, when I bought it it was 30 div

[dreamy crane]

what is the build

?

[full kraken]

prolly the most expensive item to get is a chest with 2x T1 resists, boom mod, and as high life as you can get, and ideally frenzy on hit or aura effect

[full kraken]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/SteffenBlake-0084/LeSixcanHasArrived

[halcyon silo]

Is more people playing Poe 1 or 2 ?

[dreamy crane]

boom mod?

[full kraken]

that mod is pretty critical to the build's clear not being ass

[dreamy crane]

i dont understand how is the ehp so high if the phys max hit is sop low?

[split maple]

triple lucky block hella inflates ehp

[full kraken]

all you care about is not being one tapped, if you dont get one tapped you cant die

twisters hits like 60 times per second, so with up to 30 life gain on hit you'll recover 1800 life/sec

and then you have instant life flask so, you basically instantly reheal back to full

I just sit and afk half my delve nodes at depth 700+

[dreamy crane]

i was looking for something that was kinda all around. im trying to do extremely rippy content and if i get hit that max hit just isnt enough

[split maple]

risky 😄

[dreamy crane]

the recovery is really nice tho

and that is a really cool build

its just not exactly what im looking for

[full kraken]

what rippy content? valdos?

[dreamy crane]

i might end up just trying to make something myself

[full kraken]

are we talking HC content?

[split maple]

wtb one more jewel socket in ranger area

[dreamy crane]

no but like super juiced maps with insane rares/ uniques

[short prairie]

why cant they make not rly

[full kraken]

I would do unhoy shit for just 1 more jewel socket

[short prairie]

i bottle all the expensive beasts

[dreamy crane]

and farm rippy invitations

[full kraken]

I literally just spam nightmare maps and can afk the boss fights mostly

[split maple]

if i want to get ailment immunity im kinda forced to somehow grab abyssal socket on gear rn

[short prairie]

i wish we can filter what beasts to capture and what not to capture

[split maple]

its honestly so annoying

[dreamy crane]

but if u get hit😭

that idea bothers me

[full kraken]

I actually have enough max hit to survive most stuff

[cobalt blade]

And then you get 1 shot every 20-30 maps or something when your block fails

[full kraken]

why you have 6 portals

[short prairie]

if einhar find beasts that dont match our filter he's not gonna catch them

i wish

[full kraken]

yeah but like, I got 6 portals and unironically portal Cast on Death for maps

[cobalt blade]

Cba to calculate the actual odds but god playing with that little max hit is so ass with block reliant defence

[dreamy crane]

im not talking bad about your build. i just want consist3ent near unkillability

[full kraken]

I mostly only get one tapped by the moves you were supposed to dodge

[dreamy crane]

i havea frost bbalde warden with headhunter rn

[cobalt blade]

but you could tank them

[dreamy crane]

its very nice but the defenses arent good

[full kraken]

the "normal" shit doesnt kill me, I have enough max hit to survive rippy maps

[dreamy crane]

there just acceptable

they are*

[cobalt blade]

idk i just dislike the low max hit block setups when recover on block with good max hit is just 1000x better lol

[full kraken]

you only need enough max hit to survive the hit, and aside from huge stuff I shouldve dodged anyways, the build can indeed face tank really rippy stuff

[cobalt blade]

personal dislike of it

[full kraken]

and not via block I mean I can tank the hit and it does about 80% of my life, but thats still fine

[dreamy crane]

with like 5 or 6 boosted ash map bosses jumping you ?

[full kraken]

yes

[full kraken]

the odds of two hits landing is literally 1 in 10,000

[cobalt blade]

That gets 1 shot by a 1 or 2 damage mod map

100%

[full kraken]

you just ahve to be tanky enough to tank one hit

the odds of getting hit by two is so incredibly low, it happens but like, maybe once every 1000 maps

[dreamy crane]

that what im saying i want to run super rippy originator maps

[full kraken]

I can face tank a lotta shit, and not blocking I mean it actually gets through my block and sure, it drops me down to low life, but I still survive

[dreamy crane]

i beliegve you

not saying ur lying

it just looks bad on paper

[full kraken]

the majority of rippy shit is actually stuff that hits you like 6 times

all at once

[split maple]

maybe this kinda setup Grimz? https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/miragehc/character/gladgod123-2977/Tatarian_elehit

[cobalt blade]

which is why you make that stuff heal you with recover on block and get the max hit to actually tank the shit your not meant to

[split maple]

on budget just rare ammy & vermilion rings with crit multi

[cobalt blade]

or atleast thats how i see it

[dreamy crane]

that builds looks nice but why is the dps so low?

[onyx adder]

Oh thats not only capped res

Its overcapped res

[split maple]

coz poeninja config is horrible for zenith

[cobalt blade]

its not

ninja assumes rhe melee hit for Zenith

[full kraken]

yeah I mean, to what end though

[dreamy crane]

oh

[cobalt blade]

99.9999999% of your damage is the proj

lol

[sleek verge]

How does evasion deal with phys?

[split maple]

you get 3 digit milion no worries, the only issue is you have to play zenith

[opal ingot]

awakener orb prices are so bananas right now

[dreamy crane]

that looks doable acutally

[opal ingot]

someone farm sirus

[cobalt blade]

?

[dreamy crane]

im fine with zenith

[cobalt blade]

as much as you want

[sleek verge]

No, Sirus suck

[cobalt blade]

Tank maven memory game and make shaper balls heal you

[opal ingot]

170 morrigans!?

[dreamy crane]

i was really hoping to find something nice with infernal blow

ill make it my final goal for the league

[cobalt blade]

theres not really a limit

[dreamy crane]

make infernal blow broken

ima go with that build thank you

[cobalt blade]

but my usual goal is 100-200k+ max hit with recover on block

more if im bored and want to farm more currency

[onyx adder]

Infernal blow is not, unfortunately, ever broken

[dreamy crane]

ty bro

[onyx adder]

U can put it in broken setups

[dusk rune]

just go 3m ehp glad with lucky block

[onyx adder]

But thats not infernal blow doing the heavy lifting

[cobalt blade]

the good glad builds also build max hit lmao

[dusk rune]

Yeah that is what I am referencing

[cobalt blade]

90 max res 20-30k es

Yer

and then they use recover on block since it just makes you heal from almost everything in the game

[dusk rune]

sadly not easy to hit 90 max res without mageblood if you want to use impen + crit belt

[cobalt blade]

such a balanced stat :3

fuck crit impen embrace accel impen

[dreamy crane]

you think i can get the build going with 200 div

[dusk rune]

or literally any other + impen

[dreamy crane]

i can farm a bit more

[dusk rune]

crit just a good way to scale easy damage with marylene

[split maple]

Can skip Nimis and simplex

[dreamy crane]

ight

nimis pretty cheqap rn that the crazy part

cheap*

[onyx adder]

How much is nimis in trade

[dusk rune]

Ive also seen accel belt + soul eater attack speed stacker kind of thing its nuts

[cobalt blade]

Also theres 2 reasonable routes imo purity of fire sublime+rakiata- loses access to supreme ost - or adorned max res scaling into melding

[onyx adder]

Surely not a huge chunk of 200d

[split maple]

Main thing you need is 100% suppress, Life+Max fire res jewels, pof watcher and decent sword

[dreamy crane]

i think like 25 div

[dusk rune]

like 90 aps?

[split maple]

Other stuff is kinda optional

[dusk rune]

probably more on higher budget

[onyx adder]

Yea thats within budget

[split maple]

Oh yea then go Nimis no thinking needed

[dreamy crane]

🙏

[cobalt blade]

yeah its silly

[dreamy crane]

ima lock in ill let yall know how it goes

[cobalt blade]

(2nd would still run a purity btw)

just you dont need to offset melding in the first so regular jewels with +2 max res are fine

[dreamy crane]

yeah i think ima have to craft that sword

the only one i see is 999 mirrors lol

rip

[split maple]

recombo prefix, preflock veiled chaos for attack speed, gamba shaper ex pray you hit frenzy otherwise settle, bench crit chance is decent

[opal ingot]

ngl mist gambling is kind of addicting

[dreamy crane]

how do i do the veiled chaos part?

[split maple]

bench prefixes cannot be changed, slap on veiled chaos, bench phys damage over time multi - prevents all dot multis from unveiling, unveil prayge local attack speed (so not when rare or unique enemy is nearby) if not repeat

[viscid ruin]

wasn't there an attack speed modifier for magic flasks?

[livid quarry]

does astrolabe amulet exist only to craft other amulet?

[frigid wedge]

gone

[frigid wedge]

it probably has some weird usecase but no one bothers

[frigid wedge]

so is the mana cost flask mod

[viscid ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183166715689967756/1293158412879663229/longer-2.gif

[frigid wedge]

if u want an attack speed flask u either grab a tincture or a silver

[onyx adder]

Yes

[frigid wedge]

iirc theres also a unique flask

[viscid ruin]

wish there was mageblood but for tinctures

[drowsy eagle]

onslaught

[dreamy crane]

is it worth it top just buy one with no frenzy charge?

is crit multi acceptable?

[frigid wedge]

tbf flask onslaught effect scales with flask effect

[split maple]

sure

[onyx adder]

Would tincture mageblood that cost four flask slots to use be good, i wonder

[split maple]

hitting frenzy these is a luxury

[onyx adder]

Prolly not i guess

[split maple]

eh with warden you get full uptime on 2

[frigid wedge]

does it keep them permanently active?

[split maple]

and folks still dont like warden

[cobalt blade]

they should bring this back ):

[dreamy crane]

ok ill look around because i suck at crafting🥹

im afraid to mess it up

[onyx adder]

I wasnt assuming any change to the tincture cap

[frigid wedge]

ppl dont like warden because they gotta click the button, if u force perma uptime its instantly the one of best dps belts in the game other than screams xD

[cobalt blade]

uuh tbh I cant think of a build that wouldn't rather 4 flasks with a low uptime tincture

[onyx adder]

Yea i meant if it cost four flask slots

[cobalt blade]

yer

[onyx adder]

So u got 1 flask and a perma tincture

[cobalt blade]

i just cant see a build where youd go for that

[onyx adder]

If ur saying its prolly useless i think i agree

Im just thinking about tincture mageblood as a concept, is all

[cobalt blade]

especially since presumably it wouldnt inflict mana burn as part of that perma uptime

[onyx adder]

Since many ppl think of it

[native token]

comboplaystyle meanwhile

[cobalt blade]

if it did inflict mana burn but the mana burn was made to not degen maybe sap of the seasons

[onyx adder]

The annoying thing about warden is its impossible to queue ur input

[cobalt blade]

but that would be a cursed implementation

[onyx adder]

So either u break tos or u put up with some frames of downtime and some excessive button pressing

[frigid wedge]

unless u have zero mana leech u can't even rlly macro it

so idk how u would break tos

[wraith sparrow]

is there a way to report bots via command or something? Just found a group moving as one

[cobalt blade]

you can rclick report but what makes you think they were bots lol

[frigid wedge]

without like, an algorithm that periodically checks if ur tincture is on every few ticks, and if not on it starts a timer for ur expected linger duration/cooldown and presses when that timer ends

[onyx adder]

I genuinely hate playing tincture warden its up there with eternal life flask pathfinder as the lowest qol setup in poe that goes in an actual build

[frigid wedge]

and that sounds like way too much effort to make compared to just, clicking the flask

[frigid wedge]

wait till you see the build im putting together

[opal ingot]

reminds me of a bot group i saw wearing all ghostwrithes lol

[onyx adder]

Consider tho that u only have to make ur theoretical tos breaking macro once

[opal ingot]

in poe2

[wraith sparrow]

guys move as one, they came out, all came to stash, then instantly went back to map

[onyx adder]

Whereas u have to press the tincture every six-ish seconds for 300 hours of poe

That is uh

[frigid wedge]

i think the most anti qol u can make a build is probably smth along the lines of warcry piano warden with forbiddens for master surgeon eternal life flask on perforate of duality

[onyx adder]

360,000 tincture presses

I think

[cobalt blade]

i mean that can just be a group where you saw them be extremely coordinated

[frigid wedge]

bc ur managing every warcry, stance dancing, keeping tinctures up, and life flask

[drowsy eagle]

add banners

[frigid wedge]

i have about 500 hours on a double tincture warden, it's really not that bad after the first play session, same for master surgeon with a DIVINE FLASK not eternal

u kinda just tune out the fact ur clicking it

[onyx adder]

Divine flask is the normal human being setup

[wraith sparrow]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Mirage/jWJnk66duX can take a look

[cobalt blade]

its horror if your pressing more than your main skill D:

[frigid wedge]

warden also isnt that many while mapping fron experience

[wraith sparrow]

waiting for them to come out

[frigid wedge]

u check occasionally to see if they're active and click if they arent

i literally played a master surgeon pf in mercs and pressed frost shield nearly twice as often as my life flask

[onyx adder]

Yea its like bv except u have a whole ass build u need to click on top of the bv button

[cobalt blade]

Thiis does just look like normal mf trade listings

[frigid wedge]

its 2 keys that u press at the same time

[onyx adder]

Exactly, its bv

[drowsy eagle]

they meant to enter their HO

[frigid wedge]

u dont notice it once ur used to it

[onyx adder]

And yea u do its tilt as fuck

[frigid wedge]

its not bv, managing bv feels like shit bc u stop moving

[onyx adder]

Luckily for me, warden is dog shit

[cobalt blade]

ah idc enough on mobile rn

[frigid wedge]

for almost the entirety of settlers i played tincture bows

[onyx adder]

So i dont have to consider what to do

[frigid wedge]

and master surgeon is my favourite ascendancy node in the game

[onyx adder]

If they ever buff warden im going to either uninstall or play it and bitch about it in discord daily all league

[cobalt blade]

holy

[onyx adder]

Divine flask master surgeon is fine

Some ppl use incorrect flask

[frigid wedge]

why, because ur being rewarded for clicking buttons and that upsets you?

[onyx adder]

Which is why i mentioned it

[frigid wedge]

currently making a char that dies if my 3 second mana flask isn't up and I've clicked my vaal skill more than twice recently

[onyx adder]

Its like when some other 0qol shit like zenith is optimal

U play it bc its good

But ur never happy

[frigid wedge]

zenith was fun tho

u just use ls for clear

i like template builds, they're funny

[mental nymph]

Hi chat

[cobalt blade]

i can never play zenith because i know ill start animation canceling for it since i like being optimal

[onyx adder]

There are no wrong opinions

Except this one

[cobalt blade]

and that will make me quit

[frigid wedge]

ok but it was fun

[mental nymph]

Isn't zenith pretty expensive to optimize ?

[onyx adder]

Ok but consider

WARDEN zenith

[cobalt blade]

it can be if you build it as stacker for sure

[onyx adder]

With tincture uptime optimization

[frigid wedge]

i would sit there sometimes and hold leap slam and just be sitting going boing boing boing boing boing

[wraith sparrow]

it doesn't look normal at all

[cobalt blade]

but any build can be expensive to optimize depending on your goal

[cobalt blade]

horror

[mental nymph]

Now I speak of jugg zenith ,idk about other variants

[frigid wedge]

i was gonna pob a warden perforate of duality build

ie, u gotta stance dance

[onyx adder]

I agree that this is the best way to play zenith

[frigid wedge]

for half ur dps

[wraith sparrow]

they do weird stuff with portal entering, they don't like spread around, they go in one spot when entering portals

[frigid wedge]

and u have no range bc its perforate so ur punished for taking aoe

:D

instead im working on a numlock build reliant on a 3 second flask that doesnt click if my mana is full

[cobalt blade]

that is a bit strange but depending on the map device normal

[wraith sparrow]

6 portal device

[onyx adder]

Ok i concede this is probably worse than zenith

[cobalt blade]

I see

[wraith sparrow]

maybe it's multiboxing

[onyx adder]

However i cant confirm because ive never actually equipped the perforate of duality gem i dont think

Maybe for 10 minutes of testing at some point

[frigid wedge]

u have like 11 overlaps on ur main skill

[mental nymph]

Iirc perforate is a retaliation skill no?

[frigid wedge]

[cobalt blade]

if their mirroring inputs it would be tos for multiboxing

[cobalt blade]

no

[mental nymph]

I see

[onyx adder]

I know how it works ive just never played it to see how cancer the stance dance is

[frigid wedge]

its a slam that changes mechanically based on if ur in blood stance or sand stance

[onyx adder]

Ive played regular perforate, its awful

[frigid wedge]

perforate of duality rewards u with extra spikes for changing stance

[cobalt blade]

The horror

[wraith sparrow]

exactly that, if you can do quick report, that'd be great, they must be "selling stuff"

[frigid wedge]

u can grab free onslaught from stance change too if needed

[cobalt blade]

perforate seems so bad to play lol

[onyx adder]

Blood stance is unplayable against moving target and sand stance aoe shape is custom designed to miss as many mobs as possible when clearing

[cobalt blade]

rclick report em when they come out ig not much else you can do

[frigid wedge]

i mean, u just run sand until u need single target

[frigid wedge]

sand also just, doesnt shotgun

[mental nymph]

Ah confused it with eviscerate kek

[onyx adder]

Its worlds best maven brain deleter

[wraith sparrow]

did that

[full kraken]

Ive hit 250% inc phys or higher a few times now, and flaring many times

but never both at same time

[cobalt blade]

fair

[frigid wedge]

still ass tho

[full kraken]

tbh if I hit enough I can just bench on flat phys or inc phys, but it rolled Crit multi suffix, I'll prolly take that too

[mental nymph]

Insanely hard to hit both

[frigid wedge]

but i need to see how easily i can get 1b dps on it

[onyx adder]

Fair until u try to hit a pack with sand stance

[cobalt blade]

did not take long to decide to settle

[mental nymph]

Especially if it's double Influenced base

[full kraken]

I gotta math out which is better, needing bench inc phys or bench flat phys

my gut says benching inc phys is the better outcome

[cobalt blade]

lol

bench flat

Your already have flat from base so inc being higher is better generally

[mental nymph]

You can grab a T1 increased phys fractured ,then try to hit hybrid increased phys with veiled chaos

[cobalt blade]

wirh some exceptions

[mental nymph]

Alto idk how strong that would be

[full kraken]

Im doing beastlock woke orb

[cobalt blade]

(i dont remember what tier benched flat was equivalent to on wep)

[mental nymph]

Ah glgl

[split maple]

veiled chaos gives % incr mod group mod, not hybrid

[mental nymph]

The uh

Increased phys /bleed

[split maple]

thats %incr not hybrid yea

[mental nymph]

Or impale /blind