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[native token]

its not updated yet on poe ninja but

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Casie0046%231457/characters?characterName=Casie_EsrappeltimKarton

pennance

[frigid wedge]

oh its still useable?

interesting

it wont load on my goddamn data

[native token]

penance is still king

for sanctum

10 meter

[frigid wedge]

not for early tho

[native token]

attachment range

[split maple]

nice focused

locked some mists already?

[frigid wedge]

i mean, if u can get the dps for rooms im pretty sure ur never beating storm brand for brand abuse

[split maple]

and rly happy to see this league helmet didnt do you issues 😄

[native token]

it did

@frigid wedge https://pobb.in/J-1_IVMca7-4

thats what i planned

[frigid wedge]

tyyy

im impressed the hit rate is so high post nerf

i swear ive seen this exact setup use storm brand of indecision for an osin run and swap in pbod for bosses

[split maple]

Well it's 2x 12p with double cast speed

Has to compensate for nerf

[frigid wedge]

true

those 12ps look like hell

[native token]

its easy

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Casie0046-1457/miragessf/character/Casie_Mirage

look on my current char

[frigid wedge]

are u just spamming reforge phys until u win

[native token]

the mediums

this was pain

reforge caster

till 35%

and pray

[frigid wedge]

mm

[native token]

i just have to make one

i prop mirror

the other one

[frigid wedge]

xD

[native token]

@split maple but i race abit with olo now

he started cause of me with uniq collection aswell

[frigid wedge]

where the fuck

was that video

[split maple]

I kinda dont recognize half of the names on first page of ladder this league

[hard salmon]

I need friends 😕

[split maple]

Which is nice 😄

[split maple]

Whats your /played this league Casie if you don't mind me asking?

[native token]

uhm idk

im not playing that much tho

working beeing

maybe like 10-12 days

[frigid wedge]

u said that yesterday

oh my god where is it

[ebon tendon]

sandra needs frien

[split palm]

Frieren?

[cobalt blade]

fried ren

[ebon hatch]

imma attempt uber cortex purely for lvl up 99-100

it feels like nice exp

possible break even with loot or even make some money

[cobalt blade]

then you get the pen hasted one that kills you

[frigid wedge]

not the birds

[ebon hatch]

only one mode that potentially can ruin my run is steal charges but then its not even like a map mode 100%, its like 30%

[cobalt blade]

wuh

[frigid wedge]

im going to find this video i swear

theyre such similar gear to u

[native token]

also ssf ?

[frigid wedge]

yes

[native token]

oh nice

[frigid wedge]

its a really old video now im just determined

they were clearing rooms with storm of indecision and brand recall

to get extra mileage out of seeker runes

[native token]

clera isnt realy a problem

[frigid wedge]

yeah but zoom

[ebon hatch]

by the way, is there an easy way to convert life leech into a es leech on slayer?

[frigid wedge]

u dont stop and u have way better consistency in attachment range bc ur seeker is usually ramped higher

[spice pecan]

if you do lightning damage you can use the storm drinker notable on a large lightning cluster

[ebon hatch]

holy cow that sounds very easy

doable even

[spice pecan]

other than that not really, you'd need to path either to ghost reaver or equip essentia sanguis

[ebon hatch]

large cluster here we go

[spice pecan]

and storm drinker doesn't convert it just gives you lightning damage leeched as es

[ebon hatch]

its fine

im thinking on how to convert all my 99% of cold damage to lightning

i meajn

swap

entire builld

at this point

cuz 50% shock effect seems abit too strong to ignore

[spice pecan]

shock is pretty cool ye

[ebon hatch]

like, i can remove my ice bite shako, get decent helm, swap some gems, but here my ideas stop

[frigid wedge]

it wont overleech btw if ur slayer

for es

[ebon hatch]

i understand that, but huge pool of es does not require overleech for it to be any viable

basicaly why slayer is because of frenzy stacking shenanigans

but maybe my idea is just crap overall idk

CI build on slayer

[normal hedge]

can always do the ES overleech tech

[frigid wedge]

empyrean was playing ci ls slayer in settlers

i think ur fine

[ebon hatch]

i want to know that power

[native token]

why is delve so painful

[frigid wedge]

evasion very slightly lower than ur es

click ghost dance

cannot recover es over evade

therefore cannot fill es

therefore leech doesnt get cut off by full es

[woeful yacht]

I feel like u may as well click glad

[frigid wedge]

wjy

forbidden the glad node for lucky block

[normal hedge]

glad has like 1 good ascendancy point

that you can ff/ff

[frigid wedge]

unless ur retal or bleed glad is for practical purposes a 1 node ascend

argument can be made for weapons master

[ebon hatch]

but i still need some amount of evasion for this to work right?

[frigid wedge]

yes

[normal hedge]

1 bellow your ES

[frigid wedge]

foesnt need to be exactly 1

u want them as close as u can

[normal hedge]

at least 1

[frigid wedge]

without eva being higher/equal

[normal hedge]

any value after that gonna work, just worse

[ebon hatch]

holy cow lemme open pob

[frigid wedge]

yeah, its just rlly hard to be exact when es is so scaled up

[ebon hatch]

keystone does not specify anything about leech, so leech will still work and won't turn off correct?

[frigid wedge]

it says cannot recover

above

[normal hedge]

so

[frigid wedge]

leech is recovery

[normal hedge]

sinceyou never reach your maximum ES

you never stop leeching

[ebon hatch]

holy cow that's insane

[frigid wedge]

its basically the same tech as forcing life overleech with petrified blood

[normal hedge]

but somtimes it can be hard to fit evasion

[frigid wedge]

with a higher threshhold of ur pool

[normal hedge]

remember to abuse evasion tattoos if you need

[ebon hatch]

that's gonna be hard to put down

[normal hedge]

give me that pob and i'll ruin it for you in a second

xd

[woeful yacht]

326%

wtf?

[ebon hatch]

there's like only 2 notes for evasion

[normal hedge]

gg now you just need 63k ES

🙂

[ebon hatch]

ok ok i removed some flasks and grace

[woeful yacht]

I mean if u actually have 60k ev u may as well just click ghost dance because ghost shrouds r actually good

[ebon hatch]

oh yes that can work too

[woeful yacht]

why do u have so much defenses from tree lol

[mental nymph]

You want a pob to fix ruin to kill time ?

[marsh field]

Does Attack Damage count all damage dealt by an attack skill, like elemental lightning damage, or just physical damage?

[ebon hatch]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/NancyDnB-0969/Padmarashka?i=0&search=name%3Dpadmaras

[woeful yacht]

ye sly

[normal hedge]

ah but you dont have any ES

[ebon hatch]

i can get some from... uhh helmet?

[mental nymph]

[normal hedge]

lv 33 ice bite

vs some ES

[ebon hatch]

and shield

i have 2 slots available for es

[marsh field]

which one? count or just physical?

[normal hedge]

any attack

[marsh field]

ty

[ebon hatch]

any damage, otherwise it would be specified

[normal hedge]

any attack*

if you say damage it would count spells as well

[ebon hatch]

any attack yes sry

[frigid wedge]

nope i give up

[mental nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-garrys-mod-garrys-mod-physics-fast-intense-gif-26322619

[ebon hatch]

i am just tinkering about, im done with the league for the most part, cannot squeeze any more dps with my current gear, or any upgrade is like 1+ mirror

so im fcking with es idea

hehe

[woeful yacht]

how do u plan to get es?? I don't really know what to tell u besides use a completely different shell. If u do cortex tho u probably take charge duration mastery

[fallen stone]

mining is tweaking a bit

[ebon hatch]

there is possibility to swap for resonating belt

• 1 ring slot

• 1 helmet slot and +1 shield slot all free up for es

[woeful yacht]

I think there's a non frenzy stack route, and that sounds cooler

[ebon hatch]

ehh that would mean changing all my gear i suppose

weapon at least and ring

(both are cool af)

[normal hedge]

12l setup way more fun

[ebon hatch]

yeah but i lose alot of block chance so idk

im currently at 74%

can do block cap if im not lazy (im lazy)

how do i calculate in pob what damage i need to hit certain shock on certain mob?

i need to check shock on uber

[tacit crow]

get the funny wall of text sword

[lucid kiln]

chat 8 hours without the seer, am i just unlucky?

[normal hedge]

no thats the bad one

[native token]

no you hit the wrong ggg seed

[tacit crow]

this funny one

[tacit crow]

use 5x Plenty scarabs and clear like crazy

got every scry i needed within 20 maps

[lucid kiln]

im using 4x shrine and 1x pack size scarab

ill use your strat

[tacit crow]

the books hit HARD

so keep it moving buck

[lucid kiln]

they nearly oneshot me LOL

[ebon hatch]

ok from this, how do i understand the amount of lightning damage i need to hit 50% shock?

like wtf

[sage falcon]

it depends on the enemy

[ebon hatch]

uber

lvl 85

[sage falcon]

looks like you have 10% shock on uber right now

so you need a lot more damage and/or effect of shock/non damaging ailments

[woeful yacht]

It's probably a bit higher, especially if ur using ruthless or invert

[ebon hatch]

ive done uber cortex and im hitting for something between 15 and 20%

[onyx adder]

If u want a capped shock its just the ailment threshold of damage

If u have no shock effect or whatever

ie u need single hit of 5.4 million lightning damage on uber

[true scarab]

Anyone happen to have a Doryani's Mechenarium they are looking to run an have room for 1 more?

[past mantle]

Do expedition mirages have any specific remnant modifiers they add or is it just the same pool?

[tranquil sedge]

you can check the challenge completion service channel in TFT

[true scarab]

thanks for the tip!

[finite quail]

I don't think expeditions are affected at all

except by logbooks

[slate compass]

thought tft got nuked?

[finite quail]

oh nvm, some expedition rares get affected

[tranquil sedge]

there was some drama and reshuffling of people i guess but the server's fine

downtime was maybe a few days tops

that server's too useful to be going anywhere permanently 😛

[true scarab]

Aye! It got nuked, but its under new leadership and has bounced back

[fossil mural]

wheres the people saying discord will delete it for some porn

[lilac parcel]

how do i look for the muber of synth implicits ?

i want 3

found it

[limpid prairie]

i have a stupid method thatll work too, add every synth implicit and count 3

[slate compass]

ah

[pulsar ice]

there're way too many

[lilac parcel]

look will this implicits apply to each passive point ? or just once ?

[pulsar ice]

once

[lilac parcel]

you sure ?

so i wont get it 12 times :))

i need this one

but if it doesnt apply 12 times the implicits then its kind of useless

[pulsar ice]

it'd be broken good if it did

[lilac parcel]

where do you get item 85 12 passives cluster jewels from nightmare maps ?

delirium in nightmare maps ?

[pulsar ice]

aren't nightmare maps are the same area level as t16 after this patch?

[dim turtle]

simulacrum prolly best for i84+

[limpid prairie]

mirror clusters how quaint

[dim turtle]

idk if 85 specifically drops there too or what

[storm jay]

did they drop a date for the next poe 2 season

[dim turtle]

this is synthesised implicits, not added small skills

[fossil mural]

poe1 chat

but also

only for announcement stram

or something

[lilac parcel]

yes but only apply once and not 12 times

[storm jay]

oh

[fossil mural]

late april is the stream/reveal

[lilac parcel]

so i wouldnt understand who would pay hundreds of divs for 5 strenght

[warped thorn]

does Refracting fog seriously have no weighting? i used like 70 and didnt get the enchant i need on a medium -.-

[fossil mural]

are you sure it exists

just in case

[warped thorn]

...

yes i am

lol

[dim turtle]

ppl who minmax the shit out of their build

[fossil mural]

what is it

[warped thorn]

dude

[dim turtle]

and its prolly mainly the as/crit tbh

[limpid prairie]

70*150 C or more
thats... 35 divs uff

[warped thorn]

answer the question if you know or dont if you dont know

[fossil mural]

well, me asking questions on whether its something else

indirectly provides information

[lucid kiln]

pretty good loot too, just one map

[fossil mural]

that no, its not weighting problem

[rancid seal]

i am idiot

i am coc cyclone with holy relic to boost my dps with 2ndary main skill

[tacit crow]

this is just for spawning a seer btw

thats the only reason i run the strat

[dim turtle]

unlucky dood, someone here spent like 200 trying to hit, gave it to another person and they hit it on 1st fog

[tacit crow]

i have a real atlas strat i run with pilfering

[rancid seal]

i do phys damage and spells and my map t16 ordinary map mods are 96% reduced phys dmg 145% spell supress 69% pack size 🙂

[tacit crow]

dropped 4 apoths in 12 mins

[rancid seal]

how much dmg spell supress reduce by default

[lucid kiln]

man i lost so much money trying pilfering

[fossil mural]

40

[tacit crow]

were you pilfering damnations?

[lucid kiln]

tried to, yes

[tacit crow]

this new strat im running is apoth and 7 years cards + shit ton of maven chisels and altars

its GOOD

the chisels alone profit every map

every card hit is just giga

[rancid seal]

so i had like 50 -60% total

[lucid kiln]

[rancid seal]

yes my dps cripled 🙂

[lucid kiln]

share strat

[lilac parcel]

map strat?

[lucid kiln]

kafka has me on the edge of my seat and logged off ig

anti climax

[atomic crane]

damnations is like 78d now not worth

[subtle imp]

Wat

Was Kafka gambling

[rancid seal]

i understand why people said guardian pet the one who take 20% of your max life

cant tank really and it is useless

you can say same for the aura relics too

i saw guy with 0% minion life 0% minion block 0% minion recovery in any way 0% resistances and armor auras

in such scenario yes it is useless

but with 5% hp reg on 64k hp 30% block immune to ele ailments immune to crit 70% more armor and other stuff is kinda hard to die 🙂

oh and it heals on block too

[rocky glade]

Realistically Dual Strike only needs one weapon with cap Impale Chance to make all hits impale right?

[rancid seal]

and my spells cast consecration ground so 5% hp reg become 10%

🙂

[rocky glade]

https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/issues/9737 this is hella weird

[rancid seal]

so 6400 hp to 10k hp sec if that die fast i should die faster 10k hp loss per sec is too much 🙂

[rocky glade]

Dual Strike is a fucking weird melee strike skill

[rancid seal]

look at frostblades builds 🙂

to see weird

100% crit chance 1000% crit multi

on main hand

offhand dogs ate it 🙂

paradoxica + savior

i think it was savior the clone sword

horrid basic crit chance

and bonuses

[lilac parcel]

is there any competitive chaos build with spells or chaos still lacks multipliers for damage ?

[rancid seal]

this season i discovered major op thing

but since people here mocked me i dunno if i should share

but this changes everything

you can be anything you want

[lilac parcel]

im a pretty rational person not making fun of anybody im 35 with kids

[rancid seal]

no more inc dmg limitations

[rancid seal]

okay 😳

The scourge

[worthy sentinel]

how do i name my new character

[lilac parcel]

i know this page is full of 90% trolls very few actualy know the game here

[rancid seal]

normally people stack ele dmg nodes and stuff you stack minion dmg with large clusters

[sleek barn]

it will prompt you when you create one

after you select a class

[rancid seal]

you get 600-1000% inc dmg

[limpid prairie]

Gecko

[rancid seal]

then use scourge claw

makes that 900-1500% inc dmg

all damage including spells minions attacks

then you do whatever you want but make it 100% crit 700% crit multi

[worthy sentinel]

im gonna try mathi's armor stacker reliquarian

[rancid seal]

it kinda is too big to fail

🙂

[worthy sentinel]

so i need a funny name for someone stacking armor lol

[lilac parcel]

so you wanna stack minion damage then use some chaos stuff

[rancid seal]

1500% inc all damage 700% crit multi

[rancid seal]

yes you use the claw

[tranquil umbra]

uhhhhhh I would not do this as my first character

[rancid seal]

i am coc buld right now

[lilac parcel]

yeah i have it

[rancid seal]

i tested mirror tier coc daggers

their dps less 🙂

tested in pob coz i dont have mirror 🙂

[worthy sentinel]

@tranquil umbrai figiured that. but im planning to level with pyroclasm mine and farm currency until i can put it together

[lilac parcel]

that use to be a notable passives the ones with minions wasant it ?

[rancid seal]

and tis so spells and attacks crit easy

[lilac parcel]

i remember long time ago i saw it on the screen somewhere

[tranquil umbra]

you have a plan it seems
then yeah go nuts

[worthy sentinel]

yeah. its rare i play ascendant so its a change for me

[sleek barn]

it does not stack with spiritual aid

[lucid kiln]

i think the armour stacker build by mathi isnt that expensive tbh

[rancid seal]

oh and you need this for crit multi along with suport jewel crit damage

[wild dagger]

Finished acts at Level 86 and still top 25 in gauntlet. Bro

[lilac parcel]

there is this chaos spell i like it alot

[tranquil umbra]

it wasn't when he posted it
but now because he did post about it everything spiked

[rancid seal]

which one

[lucid kiln]

ahhh right

i forgot about that

[rancid seal]

coz this is for hit build if you are dot

i cant help you i am noob at dots

dots scale weird

cant really use crit for em

[lilac parcel]

brother i cant remember it you summoned a huge circle on the ground then the mobs took cghaos damage , and when they died each one summoned that huge circle again

[rancid seal]

btw is 99 level enough i will try 99 with mapping i get 10-25% xp per day

[lilac parcel]

it was dot build

[rancid seal]

so i should easy get 99

but 100 is torture

[wild dagger]

contagion?

[tranquil umbra]

yeah that sounds like contagion

[limpid prairie]

What are the odds to drop a chisel on a T16 maven map?

[lilac parcel]

let me see it

[steel light]

imagine ur wealth increase by 200D and it's due to these 2 fake bs

[zinc stump]

That would be edc

[wild dagger]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Contagion

ED+Contagion is really common

[lilac parcel]

yes is that one

can you make this competitive ?

[normal hedge]

holy ez 200d

xd

[lilac parcel]

i love the ideaa of this very dense maps where mobs bassicly kill eachother :))

[tranquil umbra]

Blight of Contagion is a tried and true build

[wild dagger]

Blight of Contagion and ED+Contagion are both awesome yeah

[tranquil umbra]

ED felt horrendous to me

[lilac parcel]

ed?

[tranquil umbra]

essence drain

[wild dagger]

There are troves of Contagion Builds out there

[crisp obsidian]

And all of them are bad

[tranquil umbra]

loud incorrect buzzer

[lilac parcel]

can someone explain me this ?

so you cast contagion then blight them >

or what?

[tranquil umbra]

yes

that is what you do

[cyan musk]

does it work like edc on poe2?

[lilac parcel]

and all the blight stacks transfer when the mob dies ?

[cyan musk]

yeah like a spread effect

if its the same

[tranquil umbra]

yes

it's the same skill

well blight isn't the same ig

[lilac parcel]

so basicly what you need is a mob with max blight stacks on him , and a huge aoe contagion

but for the combo to work you need 2 skill gems

you need this ones

[tranquil umbra]

you won't need max stacks to kill most mobs in the game once you juice blight hard enough

yes it's a 2-button build

[lilac parcel]

you need a 6 link contagion then blight somewhere

in the helmet maybe

or whatever

contagion then blight the mobs down

contagion just needs huge aoe as much as possible , no damage investment in it , im refering to the support gems for it just aoe more duration whatever

to keep the blight buff as longer and bigger as possible

[tranquil umbra]

nah

contagion is not gonna deal damage

it's there to make blight spread

you just put it in a 4 link with as much aoe as possible

[lilac parcel]

okay ill try it eventualy :))

but it is so hard to leave behind my confortable rf which i invested a year and a half in it

[wild dagger]

Heirophant has some great BoC ascendencies

i.e.

[tranquil umbra]

e

just get occultist/trickster

[wild dagger]

yeah also great

[hard cliff]

Jane is legally never allowed to leave minion prison

she's been cursed by a wizard

[dense rock]

Winions are godtier...

[hard cliff]

yeah I played absolution this league it was great

though fragile

[dense rock]

I really need to make a cyclone LGOH holy relic/herald of agony setup

[pulsar ice]

I also played absolution and it is the most tanky build I ever made lol

[dense rock]

Shits stupid af... Block cap, 90% all resist, stupid amounts of regen and metric fuckton of life gain on hit

[tranquil umbra]

guardian is so stupid

[pulsar ice]

(I am a necro)

[dark kite]

ive invested a lot into this hiero doing storm call and tbh it's kind of rough. gets one shot too easily.

[tranquil umbra]

it counts

[worthy sentinel]

i think that HeavenlyHammerSlammer is a name which will serve my purposes

[hard cliff]

hero

[worthy sentinel]

someone in global chat said insulted orb. i never wanted a currency so much

[tacit crow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-calico-cat-cute-dance-cat-dance-gif-27615826

[rancid seal]

so you have 8 M HP boss 100% more life 100% of life as es how much es does that make

16M or 8M

i run simple map mods 108% more life 103% of life as extra es

[steel light]

will take 3 business days to answer you as you try to kill the boss

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggo-cute-math-formulas-gif-17580986

[dark kite]

i think i hate tides of time :(

[warped sonnet]

i love tides of time

[native abyss]

lock in

[dark kite]

still on the hunt for my next great build for the league

[spice pecan]

needed formless flame, tree decided to give me two at the same time

the fb one is the bad one but hey that's a dub

might be able to start levelling my armor stacker

[surreal mulch]

gormless flame

[spice pecan]

aris sub detected ♿

[surreal mulch]

idk who that is

[spice pecan]

unfortunate

[surreal mulch]

I watch vinny

[sleek barn]

holy balls

volatile vaal orbs going up

gamba time of the league

[devout shoal]

if i scour/harvest reforge the veiled mod goes away right?

[tranquil sedge]

if you use another veiled chaos also it goes away 😛 as long as its not fractured

also wat are you going for on that ring

all low tier mods with veiled mod?

oh nvm its fractured my bad

[tranquil sedge]

not if its fractured

fractured veiled mod won't go anywhere

[devout shoal]

its not fractured

this is

[glossy lark]

anyone know if the tree can drop a yoke?

im guessing not but not sure

[slow sonnet]

If it is a boss drop no

But there are other uniques with drop restrictions

[glossy lark]

how about a taming?

[rough field]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Yoke_of_Suffering#Item_acquisition

[glossy lark]

ok make sense

[tranquil sedge]

u right im just tired

yea u can get rid of the veiled mod

[tacit crow]

pobing at work and im cooking

[devout shoal]

ok if i have a leos veiled mod does this mean it will 100% have these?

and what happens if i craft inc damage before unveiling

[stuck phoenix]

No

[surreal mulch]

press alt

[rancid seal]

i have no idea what is that 😖 i feel like dummy

[sage falcon]

open google.com and type in tides of time poe

[slate compass]

Tides is the fun belt for Pathfinder basically lets us have mageblood at home

But we can actually use unique flasks

[tranquil sedge]

they can google it if they really wanna know, it's fine

[slate compass]

Wonder why someone hates it

Draught rares?

[rancid seal]

if i took 80 div credit

and i pay back 3-4 days later

is 15 div tip okay

as in total 95 div to the 80 div for 4 days duration

[hybrid harness]

is the person expecting a tip in the first place

if not, anything should be ''okay'' lol

[rancid seal]

no but this is me

i like to be extremely thankful 😛

[devout shoal]

take the biggest loan you can and gamble

[rancid seal]

i am girl i dont gamble

[ebon tendon]

idk what thats supposed to mean !

[surreal mulch]

poe doesnt have loans

imagine tho

[rough field]

I am cat I gamble

[surreal mulch]

never gamble

[sage falcon]

did you just invent the concept of interest

[bronze falcon]

im too broke to gamble

[split maple]

The only practical issues with tides are you cannot take some altars & there is tormented ghost that fucks you

So cannot valdo but ok

[dark kite]

let me rephrase: i hate it on non-pf

[sage falcon]

if someone were to give a loan of 80 div, i doubt that they would do it without asking for interest

[split maple]

Whats your take on balbala Nyancy 😄

[rancid seal]

i always give people that why all want to lend me divs

if i didnt pay back fast and never gave tip

doubt all would want to do it

[sage falcon]

"tip" sounds like an unnecessary euphemism

[dark kite]

might be better for me than the simu bloodline that im supposed to get

[devout shoal]

guys im missing 1% lightning res does that mean im getting onetapped by the first white monster i see on my map

[sage falcon]

yeah, might as well delete your character atp

[split maple]

You can live with 2-3% missing no issue

[rancid seal]

have you never played free 5 ways or spectre channel you give tip there it is free

[stuck phoenix]

It means you take 26/25 % of damage

[split maple]

Like it's worse than 75% sure, is way worse than 90% sure

[sage falcon]

i know tips are a thing that exist in the world

[rancid seal]

i can help you but you have to take pic of all your pob screen not just res armor hp es

[sage falcon]

where did 5 ways or spectres get into the conversation, i am specifically referring to loans of divs

[split maple]

But practically speaking there isn't much difference between idk 24k and 26k ele Max hit, you get tapped often anyways

[sage falcon]

the situation between a 5 way and a loan is fundamentally different

[split maple]

Like there isnt much difference between 60k and 80k where you anyways won't get tapped often

[spice pecan]

man, levelling duelist as bleed bow is so much fun

[rancid seal]

same thing favor that isnt required to pay but if you dont it could be your last help 😛

[spice pecan]

idk why ppl level duelist as slams

bleed bow is so based

[stuck phoenix]

That sounds less like a tip

And more like just a fucking trade

[sage falcon]

this seems obviously not true

[stuck phoenix]

A tip by definition is optional

[rancid seal]

i dunno but i did my experiments

[sage falcon]

helping you get a spectre vs. giving you 80 div for an unspecified amount of time are completely different

[rancid seal]

if you ask help from person 10 times and never tip they kinda dont wanna help you as much as others

[devout shoal]

not sure if i can go for black star or eater

[stuck phoenix]

Then you're just trading

[devout shoal]

probably not with this dps right?

[crisp obsidian]

what was your best build experiment

[sage falcon]

yes, this is an "unnecessary euphemism" as i said

[rancid seal]

Trauma 🙂

[stuck phoenix]

If it's a trade just call it a trade

[devout shoal]

yeah what about it

[rancid seal]

mine was never Pro tier

my best content i ever did was with 0 skill nightmare 100% deli maps

[split maple]

Fix res at some point but you will live allright

Assuming that's without guard skill

[rancid seal]

but one friend can do uber maven by facetanking the 150k slam of memory games

his build is 50 mirror thou

mine is few divs like 100

[crisp obsidian]

but what was your best build ever

that you did

[rancid seal]

i am casual after all

[devout shoal]

its with all my auras and cries active

[split maple]

Can just take alira bandit if you so worried

[rancid seal]

i guess cyclone was my most tanky with decent dps 40M Dps 15k HP 150K armor , 90% ele max res

[rancid seal]

was weak against chaos

and my dps relied on impale so map mods with immune to impale was horrid for me

[surreal mulch]

im a machine of pain

[rancid seal]

wish there was more chaos mods on exposure and stuff

[split maple]

Wdym

[crisp obsidian]

I wish minions were good

especially on guardian

[rancid seal]

well my gloves right now has 13% cold exposure on hit and 10% inc spell damage taken innerve

but there isnt chaos exposure

[split maple]

There is wither

[rancid seal]

and chaos dmg curse is weaker

[split maple]

Chaos dmg is balanced around wither

[rancid seal]

yes i know but if you want to cut res

there is no chaos pen gem

[split maple]

You do wither, you do chaos pen anoint and veiled mod and you rly don't need anything else

[rancid seal]

i get weird maps

like 60-70% chaos res added

and most enemies got 20% basic

Despair and tyrant remove basic chaos res

but to make it heavy - chaos res is tough

[ebon hatch]

jesus christ, anime princess is on it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh5H3jEZvfc this video just sold me spark

I AM LOADING IN

[split maple]

That rly shouldn't be an issue on any proper build tho

[ebon hatch]

i am leveling new characret guys wush me luck

[split maple]

Yeah just divide DPS by like 3x there

Its set to Max Spark hits

Which it doesn't get

[ebon hatch]

i mean the idea behind it is it is a cheap spark that works

i can improve it from there

i will use it as a build guide since im new to spark

[split maple]

Yeah it looks allright just config is overoptimistic for no reason 😄

Like it hits decent numbers even without overestimating

[ebon hatch]

i wanted to play spark ever since i saw a dude carrying me in simulacrum

twas like 4 years ago

[split maple]

Its prolly the best league to try spark

Due to accel belt

[ebon hatch]

true

[normal hedge]

accel belt is like really good for spark

[split maple]

Tho iirc animeprincess don't use that for some reason

[normal hedge]

dont follow his version

its like full of pob warrior stuff

[ebon hatch]

i am pob warrior myself

[normal hedge]

he puts 40 rage and if you watch his vod he doenst even have 10

its like random bs and worse than inquisitor lifestacker

or jiquanis

[split maple]

How many Spark hits does he get practically, 2?

Or just 1

[ebon hatch]

its alright, i can do proper stuff, i just needed am impulse to start new char

[normal hedge]

dunno

[cedar yarrow]

anyone who knows pob

why does it give so much dps for blind and maim tattoos?

[split maple]

I used to live nextdoor to her

[cedar yarrow]

its 2% dps each tattoo

its stupid

[split maple]

If you get dps for blind your accuracy is shit

[cedar yarrow]

no im 100% hit chance

pob is borked for it

[split maple]

Show pob

[cedar yarrow]

pob says it doesnt even know what that tattoo does

[rancid seal]

350 Mln dps but takes 10 seconds to kill 90M life boss insta kill i saw 10 seconds his hp bar move 🙂

[cedar yarrow]

https://pobb.in/93cnMM5S7aUi

that has no blind or maim tattoos

[ebon hatch]

this is illegal

but i love it

[lucid kiln]

after 10 hours the nameless Seer spawns
i run towards him and I die

used my last portal

[ebon hatch]

okay, im locked in. stage one: farm 300 div
stage two: level up new char
stage three: SPARK

[lucid kiln]

[tough cove]

it took me 480 maps to get him to show up on crimson temple

then of course he mocks me by showing up 6 times in 15 maps on dunes

[mellow ginkgo]

guys does using mind over matter with eldritch battrey have the inherit 50% avoid stun while u have es ?

[bleak quiver]

no

the es needs to be on your life

[mellow ginkgo]

i have 80 % phy reduction , which should i choose soul of lunaris for caped phy reduction or brine kind for stun immune

[loud geyser]

So

You have nowhere near enough phys reduc

[mellow ginkgo]

i got ~83 phy reduction

[loud geyser]

Uhh

Armour value?

[mellow ginkgo]

5800

[loud geyser]

Bro

[normal hedge]

unless u're an armour stacker you dont have 83% phys reduction

!armour

[covert swan]

Armour

Armour tooltips

The ingame tooltip for physical damage reduction is not accurate!

Armour reduces the incoming physical damage depending on the size of the hit. That means the bigger the hit, the more armour you need for a given % of damage reduction. The exact calculations differ between POE1 and POE2.

In POE1, the rule of thumb is that you need 5x the amount of armour of the physical hit to mitigate 50% of its damage. For example, 5000 armour will halve the damage from a 1000 damage physical hit, while a 10000 hit would need 50000 armour for the same 50% reduction. In POE2, this rule of thumb is similar, but you need 10x to mitigate 50%. That means 10000 armour will halve a 1000 hit.

The ingame tooltip and Path of Building use the hit damage of a normal white monster at your level to calculate "Estimated Physical Damage Reduction". The result is an overinflated estimated physical damage reduction, unrealistic against stronger monsters. You can set "enemy hit damage" in Path of Building to get a realistic physical damage reduction calculation.

[loud geyser]

So pop into pob and import your build

And test your defenses against 'shaper slam'

It should give you a more realistic number for your actual defenses

[mellow ginkgo]

it say 18.850 phy max hit

i think that so low ?

[elfin shale]

Turn off your guard skill

[mellow ginkgo]

not using guard skill

i feal i am weak vs phy damage

[elfin shale]

Do you have decent recovery

[mellow ginkgo]

baran slam always 1 shot me XD

yes i am inquistor

pretty new to poe

even in white maps

normal maps*

alrdy max ele resist

[normal hedge]

dunno

post your pob so we can take a look

or maybe ask in #1019646743299764255

[mellow ginkgo]

https://pobb.in/6ZOkd2Obe6y5

[plush gulch]

archmage nerf when

[lucid kiln]

thats a lot of dps

[plush gulch]

that shit broken as fuck 😔

[cosmic eagle]

as if they did not nerf manaman for 2 leagues straight already

[plush gulch]

well not enough

try to scale a lightning skill with normal means

you see how insane this is

😭

[stuck phoenix]

🙄

[cosmic eagle]

you do realize that foulborn and some new unique items powers manaman right? lmao

[plush gulch]

I did it this league the difference is huge

[cosmic eagle]

[plush gulch]

idk

all I know is I tried to scale not using mana

and saw pob with people having similar or less investment

[normal hedge]

why would they nerf it even more

[plush gulch]

they have like triple dmg

[cosmic eagle]

well there's your answer you dont know why manaman is still so good even after ggg tapped that guy 2 leagues back to back

[mellow ginkgo]

so guys , if i maxed my phy reduction i can tank the baran slam ?

[cosmic eagle]

[plush gulch]

well it's for them to figure out :p im not the nerf guy

I just know it's not balanced

[cosmic eagle]

if you want manaman to die you need to delete half of the foulborn uniques and tell them to stop adding manaman uniques

[plush gulch]

well I don't want them to die

not the diff to be this huge

would be nice if you could scale mana or regular

[bleak quiver]

mana stackers are in a pretty balanced rn

[plush gulch]

azepofjazejfeazjf

azeopifjnzedfvzefj

[cosmic eagle]

like i said manaman is just hanging off a thread and that thread is items

[plush gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-25383351

[normal hedge]

they have like 2 good skills

[bleak quiver]

after the amulet got turbo nucked

[cosmic eagle]

they already fucked manaman what else do you need

[plush gulch]

👀

idk what to say

[split maple]

Well you have a bunch of conditionals for your Max hit + MOM&eb setups always feel more squishy than pob suggests

[plush gulch]

you try to play a lightning skill without scaling mana

and compare yoru pob to mana man

[split maple]

But like just kill stuff before it kills you

[normal hedge]

energy blade or jiquanis

both better than manaman

[bleak quiver]

eb is waaaay better than mana stackers rn

[plush gulch]

well I was just not scaling stuff like this

I had a normal build

you know there is a game that you can play without stacking int or mana or es

thats called last epoch i guess

[stuck phoenix]

So you're asking GGG to not reward doing interesting things to scale?

[cosmic eagle]

yow esm my man you said you are farming 5 ways in ssf, got some build recommendations for a 5 way farmer that is easy to gear up in ssf?

[stuck phoenix]

Stackers have always been the best

Like basically for everything

[plush gulch]

never mind have fun only scaling mana es or int then because not doing them can't compete like at all and it's not even funny

[stuck phoenix]

Though you can also stack levels and cope

[plush gulch]

😔

[stuck phoenix]

Shrug I'm just doing shock nova of procession with nothing interesting atm

[split maple]

Kboc if no hh, kb/bows if hh

[stuck phoenix]

Though I also haven't played much

[bleak quiver]

this one, where you scale life for e-blade

[stuck phoenix]

It's still in white maps

[normal hedge]

no you can also stack life and still better than manaman

🙂

[bleak quiver]

also, mages use mana, es and int, why tf should it be bad

[cosmic eagle]

i hate kboc man
bow builds tho, like a regular LA?

[bleak quiver]

should warriors do better with int than str then?

[plush gulch]

when did I say it should be bad

[cosmic eagle]

i do have hh

[plush gulch]

I just say you should be able to not use those and still be okay balanced

why people want to fight me on this

[normal hedge]

you literally had a 100m dps build without using any of this

[bleak quiver]

but it is?

[normal hedge]

so

[stuck phoenix]

Shrug you can

[normal hedge]

idk what u're on

[plush gulch]

that's the thing

[loud geyser]

Just whispers of infinity and stack mana

[plush gulch]

I knew how much work it required to get this

[normal hedge]

theres many different ways to have different results

[stuck phoenix]

He's allergic to the word stack

[loud geyser]

:/

[normal hedge]

u're just saying stackers shouldnt exist

basically

[cosmic eagle]

you seem to forget that manaman might be on cocaine with damage but the defense is not on par with like life stacker

[mellow ginkgo]

baran shield make it hard to kill him before he use even one skill

[plush gulch]

if you think that"s what I meant

[loud geyser]

You need to adjust what you're building, the game gets punishing very quickly

[plush gulch]

then that's fine I don"'t want to argue

[stuck phoenix]

Why is your username t17 hater

[loud geyser]

He wishes there was t18

[plush gulch]

because I didn'rt updated it

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

[sage falcon]

real haters dont give it up just because they're gone

[stuck phoenix]

Outdated name

[plush gulch]

now people want to attack me on everything

[stuck phoenix]

Shrug

[normal hedge]

no one is attacking you

[stuck phoenix]

It's a question

[normal hedge]

dont feel attacked

[stuck phoenix]

I said smh

Over a name

[thick vine]

Can’t hate what doesn’t exist

[stuck phoenix]

If you think that's an attack, well

Smh

[loud geyser]

I hate poe3

[mellow ginkgo]

i dont mind sacrifice some dps , but how i tank phy damage , if i alrdy 90 %

[stuck phoenix]

Smh is like mild disapproval

[normal hedge]

i literally said you dont have 90% phys DR and you ignored it

[stuck phoenix]

Or disappointment

[sage falcon]

more of a spell tbh

[plush gulch]

I see

[normal hedge]

🤡 ?

[sage falcon]

maybe a warcry

[stuck phoenix]

We have a comedian

[sage falcon]

im here all day

[stuck phoenix]

Smh is silent

Definitely not a cry

[thick vine]

Hang your banners fellas

[stuck phoenix]

The defining aspect of a warcry is warcry

[mellow ginkgo]

sry i am pretty new , so i just ignore the in game ui and stack armour ?

[cosmic eagle]

archmage gonna lose its identity if you really want to kill how that ascendancy stacks mana
the way they killed trickster ES stacking tho is justified now that i agree

[normal hedge]

#1┃general message

[sage falcon]

yep

[plush gulch]

I played a build not using those and made a cool build that's true but the difference if I was scaling mana over the same investment is like completely insane

[bleak quiver]

can someone start gambling on foulborn coils so i can buy a 61/61

[plush gulch]

and that's good now because im on the top end

I struggled dmg wise for weeks

[normal hedge]

yes but if you know that, thats a choice you made and if u're happy with your results you shouldnt feel that fomo right

[plush gulch]

I just want a more balanced game where one option isn't just the best

like I know why everyone playing shock nova is doing mana man

now

[mellow ginkgo]

how much armmour should i stack for end game ?

[normal hedge]

name one game that is balanced lol

[stuck phoenix]

Why aren't you hating on mp bv then

[thick vine]

Insanity is not playing a stacker but expecting similar results

[stuck phoenix]

Chess

[plush gulch]

I never said i wanted similar

just the differnece is too big

😔

[cosmic eagle]

shock nova of procession might be crack but you can't pay me STASH TAB bundle to play a build that has 0 visual clarity when you spam it

[plush gulch]

its like half people make me say stuff I didn't say

[stuck phoenix]

Shock nova of procession is really not that much

Unless you get crazy aoe I guess

But even then I doubt you're covering most of your screen

Maybe

Also just play intensity

[cosmic eagle]

lily died in hc coz she cant see a thing while farming harvest

[plush gulch]

intensity is so much dmg but losing the aoe so tough

[thick vine]

Snop is great in the same way eye of winter is

Got great overlaps

[stuck phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/milj-milk-skill-issue-spill-issue-spill-gif-25572474

[stuck phoenix]

Shrug

[plush gulch]

proj build have it good with pinpoint

[plush gulch]

well it wasn't a complaint

just I didn't find it comfy

for mapping

idk

so I removed it

but it's great gem

[thick vine]

Eow miner was a cozy mapper and bosser

[stuck phoenix]

It's +aoe while you stay mobile though

Only -aoe while you pretend you're a turret

You tried shock nova of procession with it?

Or just in general

[plush gulch]

yes

I mean yes

shock nova of process

[stuck phoenix]

I see

Fair enough

[loud geyser]

Thats the thing its not 90

Thats why i said try your build pob

You'll see your max dps, you'll see your max hit taken

And even how long before u die to a strong hit^

[plush gulch]

I like the idea of stacker I just think it's too strong compared to other way of scaling, when you league start a stacker and instantly have more dmg than a non stacker one that's a bit weird. The fact it's more money hungry is supposed to be the issue

[split maple]

Kb it's rly a Vibe for ways

[mellow ginkgo]

i am trying to learn , i though 90 % reduction for phy damage equal too 90% elemntal resitance for elemntal damage

thats why i stacking the 90% reduction from sources like adernaline and soul of lunaris

[plush gulch]

any jenebu news btw

?

[lament hearth]

https://pobb.in/XkDQoJXkTTLy
can someone reccomend next steps

[stuck phoenix]

Sure

The contested point isn't the benefit of 90% pdr

It's how much pdr you have in practice against the hits you care about

[plush gulch]

@stuck phoenix what do you think of last epoch making phys liks any other elemental resistance ? do you think it's a better way than having some weird system with unintuitive armour formula and so on

im curious

[stuck phoenix]

I don't play last epoch

[plush gulch]

oh

[mellow ginkgo]

what considred decent max phy hit for modreated end game ?

[stuck phoenix]

Dunno

[plush gulch]

I would have said something like 15K 20K ?

idk

[bleak quiver]

i woulld say 15k is the bare minimum

25k is good

35-55k ideal

100k is immortality

[plush gulch]

you have build having less that totally works

like hh bow character

where hope is your biggest defensive layer

[bleak quiver]

working =x= feeling nice

[plush gulch]

I would never play something likke that

buit many fubgooner do

so idk

I assumed it was okay

[stuck phoenix]

As for the hypothetical question, should phys in poe just be mitigated with another resistance? Shrug. I think it's interesting that you have some portions of defences that are more interesting to work around than just make sure you have x resistance total.
Do I like how phys mitigation is atm? Not really. Would resistance be better? It'd be boring but feel more fair. I'd rather just open up more options with the current system though.
That said, this is completely unrelated to the fact that armour is inherently a very opaque mechanic for the player.

The armour formula can honestly not really be intuitive and also good

It being unintuitive is not a problem

[plush gulch]

I think it is when you have noobs asking you question and you need to direct them to youtube videos or the wiki

it's a net negative

but the game works so not everything has to be fixed

the LE way is boring for sure

thansk for answering my question

[stuck phoenix]

That is not how it works

You don't solve an unintuitive system in a game by replacing it

You solve that by explaining it

[plush gulch]

don't you think it's bad when you have to exit the game to get answer to things ?

[stuck phoenix]

So answer it in the game

That's the obvious solution

[plush gulch]

unrelated kinda but trade I enjoy using the trade in game and not having to exit it each time

I want to buy something

[stuck phoenix]

That said

In poe

You can't really justify keeping everything perfectly explained in game

[plush gulch]

so much stuff

I can understand

[stuck phoenix]

So the wiki as is hosted by the same company that runs the server exists to fill that hole

[plush gulch]

oh it's them that host it

I thought it was fans

[stuck phoenix]

GGG hosts community edits

[plush gulch]

I guess I mostly have an issue with stuff you cannot figure out yourself like ele resistance you don't need much but armour you will need the full explanation but maybe it can't be helped I know they aren't fully fan of it either

you have games where you click on some terms like armour and a pop up opens and explain what it does

I forgot which one is it

[stuck phoenix]

Poe2

[plush gulch]

ahh

xD

it's been a while I didn't play poe 2

[stuck phoenix]

I have never played poe2

I'm waiting for full release

[plush gulch]

im sure you will enjoy it

I hope

for me it's like the best campaign experience

beside act 3

but the pace of fighting and stuff

I like it very much early

im also always avoiding beta and stuff

but GGG

I had to

[pulsar ice]

always happy to see it

[plush gulch]

do you need gold ?

[pulsar ice]

yeah, I need to recombinate a ton of rings

[plush gulch]

I have like 3M gold

I never run out unless I spent it all on kingsmarch

so I was wondering about you

damn

that sucks

I would never want to do gold rota

like I think it's shit gameplay loop

😔

good luck

[pulsar ice]

140k gold from 1 mirage, not bad

[fickle glen]

Hi, 👋 do devs plan on adding WASD movement for PC poe 1?

[umbral crag]

No plans on it

[plush gulch]

yes, it will take a long time because of technical issue

[devout shoal]

yay i died to exarch

48h played down the drain

[plush gulch]

the issue is about skins and mtx

that's why they can't

[devout shoal]

now my hcssf is just ssf

[fickle glen]

Reason I ask is because I am getting an azeron keypad

[devout shoal]

at least this death wasnt as embarrasing as my gauntlet death

to a random ass boss in a t7 map

gauntlet was my first hc ever

at least i got to lv 90

this time i got to 95

[cobalt blade]

tbf some of those can be ridiculously deadly with gauntlet mods

[devout shoal]

ok how do i transfer my shit from hcssf to ssf

[cobalt blade]

die

[devout shoal]

atlas too preferably

[cobalt blade]

cant transfer that

Only whatever ur holding on death

[devout shoal]

i need to make a new char and transfer all to ssf from hcssf

to get my stash

[plush gulch]

basically need to make every skins from poe 1 able to work on the poe 2 rig (rig to animate character and stuff make abilities and skins) then they can port poe 2 rig to poe 1 and then WASD should be coming shortly after

[cobalt blade]

yup mule everything 1 inventory at a time

[devout shoal]

i probably have to get the entire atlas from 0 though

[devout shoal]

transfer all

not 1 inventory at a time

migrate all*

[cobalt blade]

oh did they add a transfer all button now?

[fickle glen]

Thank you

[cobalt blade]

for hcssf to regular

you had to just die a shit ton last league to move everything afaik lmfao

but migrate all would bring atlas

[plush gulch]

I thought about it and I guess that's because if they don't do that people will lose access to their skins that they paid so they need to make it that they don't lose access to them

even temporarily they don't want to I think

[cobalt blade]

also need to get the poe1 skills working on the poe2 rig

[plush gulch]

but the day it happen

the amount of stuff it will unlock for us

new animation

crazy stuff

[cobalt blade]

absolutely nothing

[plush gulch]

😭

u jaded

[cobalt blade]

nah i just dont look at my character

lol

And dont like wasd

[devout shoal]

ok turns out my bright idea with migrating all wont work

[plush gulch]

well most people love it I think

[cobalt blade]

have fun dying a bunch

[plush gulch]

so idk where it's coming from

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eeh

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at least I love wasd so much

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i think its pretty mixed personally

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well regardless wasd in the game doesn't remove mouse and click

[hard cliff]

I think wasd is a waste of time. If such a minor thing stops you from playing poe 1 you weren't interested enough in the first place

[plush gulch]

wtf

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ive always enjoyed point n click games /mouse driven games so its part of what i enjoy from argps lol

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yer but they might start balancing around the fact it exists