1┃general

[split maple]

with caveat that i only checked labs on the way to mirage/heist cache

and skiped the god awful spike traps ones

[halcyon flicker]

Almost at 700 ms

Tattoos be expensive lol

[light lion]

im 600 maps dry of a vivid vulture

Imma kill meself

[surreal mulch]

apparently a common issue

[bleak quiver]

another one lmao

[light lion]

no way lmao

[surreal mulch]

it's called extinction

[light lion]

at least im not the only one on this stupid boat

[surreal mulch]

there are no more worthy beasts nearby

[final owl]

360 maps. g'damn

[light lion]

ive gotten literally every other beast possible multiple times

oh well time to go do something else

oh am im also 4 50 million shipments dry of a mirror shard lol

[surreal mulch]

lowkey miss master memory threads

[light lion]

yup lol

[final owl]

ships are deadge. you are just finding out now

[full kraken]

aight, we are where we wanna be, nearly setup to start hanging out in beastlock jail again

[light lion]

honestly i think i might be doing something wrong

[surreal mulch]

is the second one even good

it's only 10% and they're already bleeding

[light lion]

are 50m shipments even the way to do shipments anymore?

[full kraken]

thats all one suffix, elder mod

[surreal mulch]

oh

[full kraken]

I already get cull from marylenes so its just for the inc phys

gonna woke orb it with warlord inc phys

and just, you know, see how that goes

[surreal mulch]

it's so nice to be on a build that doesn't scream every 3 seconds

[final owl]

Shard chance is bad, it's just not a reliable money spinner for the amount of effort now.

[light lion]

ah so what exactly are we supposed to be shipping now?

should i just not be farming ore?

[livid quarry]

dont ship

[final owl]

Better to do smaller shipments for runegrafts or tattoos imo

[livid quarry]

one of the worst strate

[final owl]

Just don't bother with shipments. That was my move this league

[light lion]

welp

[full kraken]

me, after I go to therapy

[final owl]

I sent like 1 4 mil ship for tatts, for nothing worth anything much and haven't bothered outside of that

[light lion]

well i guess ill just let it move to perma league and maybe if they buff it i can do something fun with it in standard lol

[final owl]

Part of why I'm sitting on 12m gold but oh well

[light lion]

on to the next shit i guess

beast hunting was a bust, shipments bust, waht else can i try?

[plucky rivet]

what else to do in my map

[surreal mulch]

go to the atlas tree and mouse over the bottom counter

also it literally says 100/100 lol

[surreal mulch]

the thing at the very bottom

[livid quarry]

cant let casual get mirror within a resonable amount of grinding

[plucky rivet]

124/138

[surreal mulch]

it should say all the point sources yes

[plucky rivet]

what is there to do then

[light lion]

200 or 300 million single target? some where in between that

[surreal mulch]

it literally says

where points come from

it's quite detailed

[plucky rivet]

how i do what it says here

[surreal mulch]

oh you don't even need the bottom it just says on the left lol

[light lion]

dont really need high profit as long as its consistent

thats pretty good

[surreal mulch]

would you say it's better than harvest

oh

wait do essences need giga dps

fuck

[light lion]

sometimes lol

giga dps or dps defense

[halcyon flicker]

lab no longer profitable :/

[light lion]

it feels like some of them motherfuckers do more dmg than ubers

[surreal mulch]

I only got like 600k on this char

[halcyon flicker]

especially not when you die to random bullcrap

love getting stuck on walls when theres an enemy with RF

[final owl]

harvest is hard to beat if you are efficient imo, maybe div > yellow price reliant a bit i guess

[surreal mulch]

it's 3k now

[final owl]

that 2k/div got too many people on the harvest train i guess

[surreal mulch]

efficient is one thing but i feel bad not altar full clearing

on corn

[small steeple]

I stopped the moment yellow reach above 3k/div

[final owl]

yeah i'm laazy. I basically just run altars for invites.. rarely even bother clicking

allegedly the better strat now is to not use corn anyway

and just fish for yellow

[surreal mulch]

allegedly

[final owl]

i mean them T4s can be pretty fuckin annoying sometimes

[surreal mulch]

it's so annoying when you do a map and get like 100 yellow without corn tho

[final owl]

but granted it is nice when you get a namharim and know that is 1/2 a div. or 1/3 a div right there or whaatever. I guess

[surreal mulch]

astrolabes can dupe namharim

[final owl]

sure, i get T4 dupes sometimes just running 70%+ packsize I feel like

fair to say i'm done with harvest this league though. i have run enough of it. i'm at the "anything else plx" point

probs gonna run a bunch of 5 ways from the brief legion farming i did to finish challenges

[light lion]

neat thanks

[rocky glade]

Sione's Ambition + level 4 Greater Ancestral Call allows you to hit enemies offscreen lmao

[surreal mulch]

id keep doing harvest for big money if the astrolabe challenge didn't force me to diversify

admittedly ritual has been balling

sold a tiger

[final owl]

yeah thats why i had to do legion. i guess i coulda done ritual instead

but i've barely touched legion in general so it has some mild novelty

[light lion]

i think im entirely done with beasts for now lol

the vultures have won

they get to live free

[halcyon prawn]

what strike skill

are u using

[cobalt blade]

eh its like 100m for beast essence they arent thaat strong

that would be maybe 2 or 3 tank mods on the map ontop

[final owl]

your dps on paper doesn't always directly correlate with how easy or hard other builds find a given mechanic i guess

[cobalt blade]

yer i assume consistent dps

if you have 100m but its burst 3 conditonals etc maybe

[rocky glade]

Dual Strike of Ambidexterity

Aka the dumb one

[cobalt blade]

i mean was just saying consistent dps in general on any build

its why RF feels good sinceits ultra consistent lmao

[rocky glade]

Diamond Shrine with Marylene is so fucking busted

[cobalt blade]

ahh

fair

[final owl]

it's sad being kinda slow though. but yeah it's an obvious and strong combo

[cobalt blade]

if u want to hav emore fun do a winds of fate build ontop of those

its funky damage for how little investment

yer non condtional or minimal conditional

example would be like wither but your only source is this

[rocky glade]

Oh god Cyclone Shockwave with that shit is gonna be insane

[cobalt blade]

technically 15 wither but your waiting 15 seconds on an essence mob so its just not real

same

mostly for void beacon

:3

[halcyon flicker]

is there like a scarab that multiplies the plant juice you find by like a million or something

every time i did harvevst i got like stacks of 10x lifeforce woohoo

[cobalt blade]

i dont use withering presence at all

unholy might on crit>25% chance for wither>5-6 proj FR+ 13 cast speed and 1.3m aoe is perma 15 wither basically instantly

yeee assassin feels bad from losing aoe

i tried to pob it but eh

forbidden power is just too good

not that i know of

you could do a minion loop setup ig for the recoup tho

get like 20k life per sec

[full kraken]

okay so I think the name of the game here is gonna be making a fuck tonne of bases

[bleak quiver]

the problem with that recoup node is that its hard to get hp% in that passive tree area

unless you do meme shit with self dmg its really a dead node

[full kraken]

I see numerous solid contender donate mods we can hit, and 3 copies of each

[cobalt blade]

maybe with voices?

stack fettle or something on smalls

or even just 12p's into fettle small

but idk being limited to phys is so shit for an ascend

when you could just spend 3 points here instead

or get a ring mod for recoup

[full kraken]

1. ideal contender, warlord inc phys suffix
2. crusader impale effect
3. crusader inc phys pref
4. warlord inc phys pref
5. Shaper inc phys pref

Obviously 3/4/5 are sub optimal, but theyre still worth checking, so that alone gives me fifteen donate bases I can scan over per beastlock, that seems pretty good

[hoary totem]

anyone else getting this pob error after updating?

[bleak quiver]

already gave up on beast lock?

[full kraken]

I dunno if I bother making 3 inf mod bases for each of those too, I could theoretically fill up a whole stash tab with donate bases if I reach for 3x influenced mods

[cobalt blade]

does it happen in all your pobs

[full kraken]

hm? no this is beast locking

[hoary totem]

yeah, about to try reimport them

[cobalt blade]

you make a billion donor items for beatlocks

[bleak quiver]

oh i tough you had the bases ready already

[cobalt blade]

(well like 3-10 but still)

[full kraken]

but I have like, 5 solid options to scan over for donate bases, and 3 donate bases per, so thats 15 bases and thats just doing 1 and 2 influenced mods

[bleak quiver]

you kinda are supposed to plan that before

[full kraken]

do you think I should also go for 3x influenced mod bases considering the plan?

[cobalt blade]

ah hm my guess would be the update just downloaded badly but weird

[full kraken]

its weapon slot so easy to get the bases, since no elevation needed

[cobalt blade]

depends on the cost to make em or even just buy them

[dense rock]

https://giphy.com/gifs/netflix-umbrella-academy-hargreeves-4-t4HFdwzbg4x8XNZF8I

[full kraken]

very cheap cuz weapon slot

[hoary totem]

updated through client, and also from the site, reimporting works fine just cant use any of my old saved ones though

[cobalt blade]

oh funky i see

[halcyon flicker]

Oh well. League was fun but ran it's course. Tried just about every farming method out there and got lvl100. Not much left to do

[full kraken]

so just to confirm, for a suffix donor weapon, does:

3S
1p2S
2p1S

all count as "different" if they hit?

[cobalt blade]

if its all influence yes

[full kraken]

yeah, kk, and then Id want a couple of each since its only 1/3 chance to hit

so lets say... 9 bases per

so thats... 12 bases per affix, 5 affixes we can check, so... 60 bases

I can fit 24 bases in 1 stash tab tho so, maybe I stop there lol

[cobalt blade]

oh will say

[full kraken]

or do I just fill up a whole ass quad tab

[cobalt blade]

for different influences it can hit the same effective outcome its confusing

[full kraken]

if both of them are a suffix for example

[cobalt blade]

like if it hits suffix on the 2s and pulls the "low" weight suffix it might always pull that equivalent suffix and rolll the same mods each time

[full kraken]

IE if I have a shaper axe that is, say, 3P, and I donate prefix

and then warlord axe donating prefix and its also 3P

thatll produce the "same" outcome?

[cobalt blade]

ill try find the old example from simplex crafting

[tranquil sedge]

what are you crafting pixel

that seems like a lot of bases

[full kraken]

phys weapon :x

trying to roll as high of possible flat phys 1H melee weapon statstick for spellblade

[tranquil sedge]

wat mods end up doing that

[full kraken]

I have elder suffix, and then 5 possible options for donating

[cobalt blade]

https://youtu.be/B_PzeNAvy7s?t=839 @full kraken

[full kraken]

#1┃general message

[cobalt blade]

you can see some of the weirder shit

[tranquil sedge]

i c

[full kraken]

actually shaper prefix sucks nevermind on that one

[short prairie]

Wow guys

I got a notice from a toll company telling me I owe hundreds of dollars

But the car was the one I sold to a car dealership years ago

With title transfer and interest releases

Should I call them and play with them and see how they scam me

[spice pecan]

nah its a waste of time

[final owl]

i just ignore such things until I can't. There is too much of that kind of stuff and not enough time.

[spice pecan]

especially around here

i tried that once and then i started getting calls from like tree stump removal companies and shit for a year straight

i lost a hc d3 character because of one of those fucking calls

[final owl]

my secret life hack for avoiding unwanted phone calls is to just never answer phone calls.

[short prairie]

but it would be funny

[spice pecan]

idk man if you want to get inundated with more calls then it might be a good idea

xdd

[short prairie]

no it was an actual notice from the toll company, sent by mail

[bleak quiver]

i think ive recived like, 5 reals calls this year

everything else was spam and scams

[short prairie]

do you not get calls from family members

[final owl]

i imagine my calls worth answering ratio is around 1:100 at least

[bleak quiver]

2-3 times a day

[spice pecan]

i don't have family

[short prairie]

we are family?

[opaque sphinx]

i wonder when we get "increases and reductions to fire dmg instead apply to cold/lightning" etc items

[spice pecan]

i have one (1) friend who doesn't have a smartphone who calls me pretty regularly but that's literally it, besides my husband ofc

[final owl]

my fam just knows to message me. mostly people who need to contact me know to just message me.

[short prairie]

bruh

[bleak quiver]

at least here, no one calls unless its a emegency

[short prairie]

husband is family

[bleak quiver]

everything is by text

[spice pecan]

true

[short prairie]

well true

my parents only text me

[light lion]

why it doing that

[spice pecan]

your inventory is full

probably

[light lion]

it not

[tawdry olive]

That one sadistic mf gonna be like: *lists a mirror for 300000 simulacrum splinters

[sleek verge]

How much dps do you need to comfortably kill ubers?

[rough field]

10m kboc dps 👍

Idk wat dat is in other skills

Mabie 250m dps?

[sleek verge]

Okay

I get 500M to be safe.

[cobalt blade]

happens if it drops as 300

[rough field]

As long as you can tank a few hit and recover your hit pool fast you are pretty much immortal to ubers

[sleek verge]

Okay, thanks

[slate compass]

Id say around 15m regular dps

Which translates to like 5m uber

seems like they just have 42m life anyway

[dense rock]

first time i got tinks off silly tree ❤️

[short prairie]

after 3000 of these finally a max rolled one

[spice pecan]

HOLY

[full kraken]

ಠ_ಠ

[short prairie]

im prob gonna go for bannerman heist runner tho

no more rangers

[full kraken]

if you can afford an accel belt, you dont even need banners to hit 1000%+ movespeed

[short prairie]

i cant afford it cuz my luck is 0

[full kraken]

just slap on accel belt and then abuse gladiator block chance to become invincible

[split maple]

ff more than skill while you are at it

[short prairie]

[split maple]

kinda funny

• add to that ones using the non-soul eater foulborn hh/foulborn il

[proper zephyr]

Game just randomly took away my perfect forest warrior what can I do?

I moved them gem but I was in town

[cobalt blade]

you have to put the gem in the exact same socket iirc when changing shit in town

not rly anything you can do

[proper zephyr]

Bruh

[short prairie]

[proper zephyr]

Thats the stupidest shit ive ever heard

I had to farm hours for that

[cobalt blade]

spectres are the lowest qol thing in the game

[umbral crag]

I have my spork at its baby phase and its erh

Rough

HAHAHAH

[split maple]

what setup did you go for in the end?

[proper zephyr]

There goes 20% of my damage and hours of my life

[heady cliff]

5 way carries

or Serious Breach Enjoyers

[split maple]

it makes hh worse

like there legit is no reason to go for that

[heady cliff]

they usually start from inspired

[opal ingot]

An iq too high

[heady cliff]

and some forget to change

or dont know

[opal ingot]

But the highest cool

Don't tell me a glowy ethereal Giant turtle isn't the fuckin coolest thing

[cobalt blade]

lowest cool since minions

[cobalt blade]

it doesnt make it worse it just does nothing

the 60 second still overides 20

[full kraken]

10/20 donate bases completed so far

[zealous flax]

Anyone know where i can get a high quality tink mp5

[opal ingot]

!ban Naca

[cobalt blade]

i assume u mean mp3

[fallen stone]

does dot count as a hit?

[cobalt blade]

no but you apply alot of dots with a hit

but something like RF has no hit component

[fallen stone]

does this work with toxic rian

[opal ingot]

Do u see the check on the left

[opaque sphinx]

man i really really really wish we had a unique jewel that turns 2 random keystones into "gates"

like on atlas

[cobalt blade]

god i wish if it would let you take the keystones as part of that

[rose quail]

What's the Heist meta now? You grab deceptions and enchanted stuff off the ground?

As in if you are mapping

[cobalt blade]

yes except enchanted armaments i think it was

theres one thats only 1c since noone wants to run it lol

[opaque sphinx]

no it transforms the keystone

too broken otherwise i think

[cobalt blade]

):

still really good though

[opaque sphinx]

i just wanna play hot glad

[cobalt blade]

simpliest use case i can think of is arsenal of vengance keystone

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

and use that to grab an extra cluster

same with point blank or some of the others next to clusters

[opaque sphinx]

fair

i basically just wanna play scion on glad

[cobalt blade]

surely balanced :3

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

thats why u just play scion and click glad smh

they should cle arly give scion lucky block

[opaque sphinx]

this the rough tree im working with atm

[onyx adder]

they should give scion a lot of things

[opaque sphinx]

VERY FIRST DRAFT WTD DONT KILL ME

[cobalt blade]

they should just give scion full power of any 2 ascend nodes

[onyx adder]

modern scion design seems to be hey how do we extract the theme of the class while remove anything that could be powerful enough to use

[opaque sphinx]

why do u always magically appear right as i post some stupid shit

[onyx adder]

like what the fuck is this

[rose quail]

No ascend nodes, triple passive points

[stuck phoenix]

Ngl that doesn't even sound good

[onyx adder]

like

[fallen stone]

honestly i think all the choices have no synergy with toxic rain

[onyx adder]

how is this even a line of text that some actual human being thought would be a good idea to put on the screen

it wouldnt be out of line for squishy to write it's that stupid

[short prairie]

wish me luck

300% more currencies

[opaque sphinx]

i need to trim points off this to fit med clusters

[cobalt blade]

this would like actually be broken as shit

[rose quail]

Yes it would.

[onyx adder]

i didnt even look at it dw

[frigid wedge]

gm

[cobalt blade]

i meaaaan it enables doing some cursed shit though that isnt currently possible

[opaque sphinx]

ty i appreciate you

[opal ingot]

hinekora lock incoming

[frigid wedge]

where difficultu

[cobalt blade]

hiiii eri :3

[opal ingot]

i rolled over 78 strands

[frigid wedge]

hiii naca

[frigid wedge]

realest shit ever

[opal ingot]

and chris has gifted me his 84 strands

[frigid wedge]

im still mentally conflicted about rolling es pieces for life+mana

but ig i can go mana es on helm and body maybe

[cobalt blade]

could go hybrid so you atleast get suppress too

[frigid wedge]

need armour hybrid body

[cobalt blade]

since i assume you just want es base for access to mana

ah fair

[frigid wedge]

i would also just like es, wellwater looks really nice for my recovery

:D

how do you recover life?
flask
what about your mana?
flask
and- and what... what about es?
flask

[opal ingot]

bless the hands that made reforge attack purple juice

[frigid wedge]

so you're a pathfinder?
no
what the fuck is wrong with you

[frigid wedge]

me clicking reforge fire for 10 mins to hit endu charge warlord boots

[opal ingot]

how

how did i annul 0.2 in a 6 mod first try 2 times

[frigid wedge]

bc chris

[cosmic raptor]

chris meow

[tidal geode]

is inscribed ultimatum worth farming lately? heard it been nerfed

[cobalt blade]

its still extremely profitable

[frigid wedge]

is probably fine tbh

[split maple]

there are some new nasty ulti mods to handle, but it you can handle them its kinda buffed

coz 2 ultis per map due to mirage

[tidal geode]

I did do a 5 map test but only 1 divine IU drops, kinda sad

[split maple]

• rly rly cheap catalyzing scarb

[tidal geode]

yeah I gonna do more and see how it goes

[frigid wedge]

ur fishing for big ticket drops

[cobalt blade]

u also need to 5:1

the 70% more lifes 120% w/e

200's its a bit more considerable to sell em since its kinda just fishing for mirror ulti lol

[tidal geode]

Item quant do affect IU drop right

been running 8 mod

[cobalt blade]

nope you can run them in white maps since your just converting the loot tiles from ulti

[opal ingot]

im constantly getting tempted by this

[split maple]

that was my test run, a smidgen under 20 maps, picking all inscribeds

[opal ingot]

now i want to ceck the unravel

oh fuck..

i didn't make an imprint

[cobalt blade]

how many 200%'s

[frigid wedge]

kek

[split maple]

0, too small sample

[cobalt blade]

rip

fair tho

[split maple]

got 1 200% last league, idk how many ultis tho

[opal ingot]

and it only unravelled t3 to t2

ripperoni

[frigid wedge]

hmm

[tidal geode]

wait the guide Ive been following said to go for 8 mod, so I dont need to? xD

[split maple]

also dont need to use bribing

they only there for exp

[frigid wedge]

what sorta fog meds do i make

[tidal geode]

which scarabs did you use

[cobalt blade]

the only thing 8 mod does is affect tainted catalysts drop from trialmaster

[split maple]

also dont rly need to run altars at all

[tidal geode]

cool, thanks

[cobalt blade]

i dont think therse a single other thing it affects for ulti lmao

[split maple]

cata+inscr are the only ones that matter there

[tidal geode]

yep thanks

[opal ingot]

uhhhhhhhhhhh

[split maple]

make sure to have ulti in mirage too

[cobalt blade]

no 30 qual ):

[split maple]

like small map with other mechanics blocked

[tidal geode]

Atoll isd good right

[frigid wedge]

for what

[split maple]

idk i just burned mirage maps coz had too many

[cobalt blade]

think the middle section can eat your mirage

[frigid wedge]

dont u usually just use haunt or c square

[short prairie]

i jsut want to say one word

[cobalt blade]

ye

[short prairie]

scammed

2 words

absolutely scammed

[split maple]

c square kinda rly likes not to cover mechanics

coz ulti gets placed in one of lil nooks

[cobalt blade]

would personally do it in haunted or silo for ulti i think

[frigid wedge]

ah

[opal ingot]

vendor

[split maple]

iirc kira did bog? cant remember

[frigid wedge]

hmmmmmmmm

[cobalt blade]

i think bog you could get a strongbox in the middle of acorner and get fucked

[frigid wedge]

my mediums are gonna b so weird

[short prairie]

what i got from that map

[cobalt blade]

but i guess also happens in silo

[frigid wedge]

but i need 6 of em

ugh

[short prairie]

300% currencies and 200% quant btw.

2 divs 1 volatile vaal

that was it

[split maple]

how many alts tho

[short prairie]

200-300 ish

it's not like i need more alts

[cobalt blade]

yet

[split maple]

time to make a wand

prolly barely enough

[cobalt blade]

if your going for t1 spell dmg its not enough

[short prairie]

i alr made one

[cobalt blade]

assuming you get about average rng for deletions

[split maple]

chance a dbl influ gull while you are at it 😄

[split maple]

i so miss tree printing these

[frigid wedge]

for what this time

[split maple]

idk senses will figure it out

[frigid wedge]

i still dont get why they removed weapons from tree

its so ass

[cobalt blade]

i think they should remove more tbh

i really dont like provishinings

[split maple]

i kinda like no weapons from tree as forcing you to other mechanics at least for something

tho it makes slam progression like half worse than last league 😛

[split palm]

Hi naca
Hi sans

[short prairie]

https://pobb.in/c8iArYZhW080 i ditched this character

[cobalt blade]

hiii :3

[frigid wedge]

why tho

hi shika

hows ur holidaying

[short prairie]

cuz bv chieftain is 10000% better

[frigid wedge]

ye but fun

necro corpse pact so fun w shield charg

[cobalt blade]

anointless lvl 91 undivined shield D:

[short prairie]

cuz bv better

so i ditched her

[cobalt blade]

i honestly dont understand the appeal of BV it is just quick explode application lol

[short prairie]

after you play bv chief you dont rly want to paly other char

[final owl]

i think you just explained the appeal

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/kZqER-myYO7z prob as far as im getting with the theorycraft tonight cuz i gotta sleep

[cobalt blade]

and ofc snapshot for some scenarios but i just dont understand the appeal of the skill compared to playing smth else for explode

[opaque sphinx]

its uh

its something

thats for sure

[split maple]

I don't think bv is played for it's own merits this league anywayse

[steel light]

how much does an uber boss killer avg cost from scratch? 200d-500d?

[split maple]

Like the only thing that matters is snapshot

[cobalt blade]

yea its just for snapshot minion pact

[final owl]

no bv is just a minion pact vehicle

[cobalt blade]

just in general for ppl playing BV

[frigid wedge]

I've seen a 30d icicle miner do all ubers

[cobalt blade]

depends on your goal

[final owl]

it's mildly clunky. but i've played far clunkier builds

[frigid wedge]

might b a lil more iirc needs nimis

[cobalt blade]

if you want to 1 shot thru uber DR closer to the 300-500d mark

[frigid wedge]

but nimis is 20d

[cobalt blade]

if you want to 1 shot after waiting for that to fall off like 50d

[split maple]

On the one hand I rly don't want to do Minion pact, on the other hand I am worried it will also tripletap nerf bv so won't have chance to try bv later

Weird kinda fomo

[opaque sphinx]

i think there's potential with it but ngl the dmg kinda bad
really thought doryani +replica nebulis would be a lot stronger of a core

[final owl]

who knows. it seems simple to kill bv minion pact without killing bv. but it is ggg after all

[cobalt blade]

i have this for the ward build but i just cant bring myself to spend a mirror+ on a timeless

[split maple]

Like pbod died for hive sins

[cobalt blade]

okay tbf pbod was deserving of a nerf anyway

[short prairie]

time to play bv this league

minion pact

[frigid wedge]

literally just remove the snapshotting with bv, only build is does major nerfing to is archmage BV

[split maple]

yea definition of died got nerfed to reasonable state where its not anymore only playable spell

[short prairie]

next league youre not going to see minion pact builds

[steel light]

i wanna just make an uber killer that skips phrases and just otk, my cws upgrades are kinda all volatile vaal orb gambles now, and i bombed an emity and svalin earlier

[frigid wedge]

it hurts other bv slightly but notnmassively

[cobalt blade]

i see

[final owl]

yeah. still some chance ggg goes scorched earth because reasons though i guess

[split maple]

still idk rly what i am doing this league, hopefuly spark will scratch that "need to make a fancy build" itch

started essence farm yday for gloves

[opaque sphinx]

bruh doryani is only like a 3x multiplier?

[cobalt blade]

for?

[split maple]

yes, going to -200% res is only like 3x more

[modest sparrow]

Time to do zhp

[opaque sphinx]

damn bruh

[frigid wedge]

it has the added benefit of freeing up need for res curse, pen(ish) and exposure

[opaque sphinx]

yeah but now im sad lol

[opal ingot]

its weird that people can play poe for 8+ years

and still not want to touch crafting at all

or even get curious to try it

[opaque sphinx]

ton of work to make doryani fit
coulda just slapped annhilating light on with res flasks for same effect

[cobalt blade]

yeah i dont understand this at all its such a fun part of the game lol

[cobalt blade]

thats when you do both get even more -lightning res to account for light

[final owl]

i want to get better at crafting.

[opaque sphinx]

but then again cant use a staff with glad

[cobalt blade]

i mean you can you just only have 1 ascend node

[umbral crag]

Some pseudo block version

[opaque sphinx]

i already only have 3

[umbral crag]

But scuffed as hell

[opaque sphinx]

and even this kinda meme

[cobalt blade]

archmage frostmage aura stacking or gem lvl scaling

[opaque sphinx]

weapon master is just 20% more aoe

[cobalt blade]

or spellblade

[umbral crag]

Aura stacking

[cobalt blade]

ah nice x3

[umbral crag]

I say stacking

[cobalt blade]

v fun route for spark

[umbral crag]

More like jenga block building

[opaque sphinx]

cant use lone messenger with purity of ice
cant use arrogance cuz no calamity since doryani
how actually make it do dmg

[umbral crag]

Precariously put tgt on the verge of falling apart

[cobalt blade]

its mostly just for 90 max res for nebulis/defence as the reason to aura stack

[umbral crag]

[cobalt blade]

then rest of the auras are just good but not exactly mandatory

[opaque sphinx]

900% ic dmg
450 multi
doryani with -200 res
and hots still only 2.25m dps

[umbral crag]

Not even there yet, missing some gem levels and ammy

[cobalt blade]

isnt doryani range ass anyway

[cobalt blade]

ahic

[umbral crag]

Hella scuffed kekw

[cobalt blade]

(so like half the shit wont have -200)

[opaque sphinx]

its hots the range isnt super big

[umbral crag]

Shit got really expensive really fast

[cobalt blade]

its 6m for doryanis apparently

[split maple]

its like screen vertical for dory

[opaque sphinx]

oh

[cobalt blade]

yer its not great

[opaque sphinx]

tf else do i do then

idk ill throw more shit at the wall tmrw its 4:20 and i gotta sleep otherwise i'll spend all night pobbing this dumb idea

[tawdry olive]

4:20 🔥

[opaque sphinx]

if anyone wants to fuck around with it have fun https://pobb.in/kZqER-myYO7z

[opal ingot]

blazeit

[opaque sphinx]

🔥

[frigid wedge]

smh no annihilating light

[opaque sphinx]

i think if u use a staff with glad ggg bans you

[cobalt blade]

i think the correct thing to do is champ take fortify aura effect ftsltf steal more than skill lol

[frigid wedge]

why tho, tree has staff block en masse

[short prairie]

annihilating light with incandescent heart and divine flesh

[frigid wedge]

naw

[cobalt blade]

cos your a 1 ascend build

[frigid wedge]

with uh

foulborn coming calamity

[frigid wedge]

ye but glad is kinda really shit for this anyways

[cobalt blade]

yer

[short prairie]

foulborn skin of the loyals works too

[onyx adder]

ur basic problem is that purity sublime is turbodogshit

[short prairie]

to counteract the annihilation light downside

[cobalt blade]

but yknow do this and swap to staff^

[onyx adder]

get rid of that setup and u will be fine

idk how u like

avoid dying or whatever

[frigid wedge]

ye but lone messenger and fixed reservation

[onyx adder]

but hot already has no damage

u cant give up lone messenger

[cobalt blade]

huh no that purity setup is legit

[onyx adder]

it turns off lone messenger

or rather its incompatible

[frigid wedge]

by being heavily reliant on lucky block

[cobalt blade]

ye tru forgot about lone

[onyx adder]

yea sure im just sayin its a doryani setup so i can see why they would want to run purity sublime

it just costs u too much damage

[steel light]

i'd play for less than a year and done crafting, but i don't want to do any influence mod other than eater/exarch, so i'm a basic crafter

[frigid wedge]

im noticing a severe lack of gem levels

[frigid wedge]

i feel like this is big value

[cobalt blade]

yeeh drop doryanis +4 or 8 amulet 100% stronger

[onyx adder]

yer theres heaps of ways u can do this better

[frigid wedge]

+4 doryanis amulet

:D

[cobalt blade]

nah i mean dropping it to run lone+gem levels x3

[frigid wedge]

i mean, u can run non purity doryanis

[cobalt blade]

true but pain

just pain

[frigid wedge]

we're already block reliant

[cobalt blade]

dots though

[onyx adder]

i think the setup is too tight for non purity doryanis

maybe u can try?

[cosmic raptor]

you are meow reliant

[onyx adder]

idk looks sketch

[frigid wedge]

if u REALLY want to u can grab taste of hate

[cobalt blade]

hit wise i think its fine

so taste is eh not rly required

[frigid wedge]

ig so

divine flesh applies to dots too

[cobalt blade]

ye

[full kraken]

damn, rolling hybrid warlor phys 5+ times gonna be kinda expensive

[frigid wedge]

i think id enjoy if it was just doryan with levels ammy and lone messenger small cluster

[cobalt blade]

there is a route you go fire actually with volatiled dawn breaker for 24%>ele taken as bound>divine flesh>still cap cold res but mitigating 84% of lightning for dots

and cos not rakiata reasonable to capcold/do -light

[frigid wedge]

isnt dawnbreaker still hits

[cobalt blade]

no its never been hits

[frigid wedge]

ohh

[cobalt blade]

it was the original way people did 100% pof lol

the largest problem with dawnbreaker tho is getting unlucky iwth block could destroy your attack block

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[full kraken]

looks like shuddering fossil spam is my cheapest option

[bleak quiver]

damn... i was just memeing trying out bodyswap... but i kinda like it more than dd now...

[short prairie]

another one

[bleak quiver]

it has way bigger base radius, and does the exact same dmg...

[short prairie]

200% currency outside of map

[frigid wedge]

it scales minion life just as well as bv pact btw if u use sacrifice version

[bleak quiver]

nah, i play real builds

[frigid wedge]

hmm?

its not bugged

this one has been around for a while

1 tap an uber or smth

xD

[bleak quiver]

ik ik, kinda memeing in the response

i tried it before

[split palm]

It seems that any build can do that this league, ngl

[bleak quiver]

it plays like bex's helmet

its horrible in practice

[light lion]

what is a helmet like this used for?

[bleak quiver]

(tho both the helmet and body swap of sac are cool)

[bleak quiver]

cold snap

[frigid wedge]

why cold snap with less dura

is that not like, call of the brotherhood storm call or smth

[bleak quiver]

sorry yeah, its storm call

i confuse the 2 cuz they look the saame

[light lion]

ooo

[bleak quiver]

both shit that falls from the sky

[light lion]

storm call

tahts cool

[frigid wedge]

storm call is neat

[bleak quiver]

you want to stack the aoes with cascade

[frigid wedge]

^

[zealous flax]

i forgot to eat

[frigid wedge]

greater cascade and big aoe, and then u cut out as much skill dura as possible

[zealous flax]

and now im sweating in a 15c house

[frigid wedge]

zoey go get food

[zealous flax]

i am eating now

[frigid wedge]

good

[zealous flax]

my bp is low XD

[cobalt blade]

dang whens the 15d house

[zealous flax]

celcuis

lol

[cobalt blade]

:3

[bleak quiver]

damn, 15c for a house in this economy

[zealous flax]

oof

[cobalt blade]

is thaat blood pressure?

[zealous flax]

yea

its really low for e

me

[cobalt blade]

aah

rip ):

[zealous flax]

i ate 3 hours ago

😭

[full kraken]

holy shit gigachad doner base, both affixes are ideal donations so its extra good

[cobalt blade]

cant wait for you to send the finished axe a week from now

maybe 2

[split maple]

Holy optimism

[bleak quiver]

yeah, maybe next league

or if they buff strands

[split maple]

How many mods you going for pixx?

[cobalt blade]

i meaan if you do like a 50d an hour strat u can prooobably get a settle one in a week or 2

thats alotta beastlocks

[bleak quiver]

he wants a triple t1 phys axe

[cobalt blade]

trutru

[bleak quiver]

so he's trying as many as possible and hopping strands carry

[cobalt blade]

but i assume he'll reealize how bad it is in 3 or 4 days

[bleak quiver]

aka a miracle

[opal ingot]

this is no way to live

[cobalt blade]

i just farm 8 mods and sell the good ones for 2-3d

[bleak quiver]

i did that last league

[cobalt blade]

lol

[bleak quiver]

its actually very chill

when the meta is very defined, rolling them is a breeze

[opal ingot]

it's not just x, it's y

jokes aside, props to the guy

[frigid wedge]

oh is it actually good, i can farm 2/3 of a map tab at a time

[cobalt blade]

why does that sound chatgpt efficient

[full kraken]

keep in mind, T1 phys is also an influenced prefix on both warlord and crusader, and strands seem to extremely bias up influenced mods

[cobalt blade]

yer 80+currency orig maps sell well

[opal ingot]

pretty chatgpt to me

[cobalt blade]

and you can sell regular 8 mods for like 5c

[frigid wedge]

oh wow

neat

[cobalt blade]

example 150+currency one too

[bleak quiver]

that is true, but what you dont realize is that THIS is the hard part

[tacit crow]

hello

[full kraken]

thats the same mod influenced mods compete with

[cobalt blade]

cant forget

[full kraken]

the rarest mod is gonna be flaring, not dictators

or sorry merc, that one

merc mod is gonna be what Im chasing, the other 2 mods will show up fairly often since dictators also has 2x influenced mods that are not quite as good but good enough

[frigid wedge]

i may need you to explain how to price these in dms

[bleak quiver]

all of these compete with merciless too

[cobalt blade]

its just the roll of more currency +sometimes packsize/quant if its rly gud

[tacit crow]

i have a new currency strat

its so sneaky

[frigid wedge]

ye but awkwarddd

[frigid wedge]

u gotta share it now

[tacit crow]

cant tell you

sorry sans...

[frigid wedge]

nah this is g100 rules

u tell use u got smth u gotta id it

[tacit crow]

not a single please in sight

sigh...

[cobalt blade]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Mirage/Wv8b7DLRCm

change around the pack size/currency lol

[frigid wedge]

it would please me to hear it

[cobalt blade]

people specifically look for 8 mod ones because of the explicit mod effect node on tree

[north garden]

anyone have a strat to farm deli 8mod 16.5 / full mirage?

[frigid wedge]

yep

[north garden]

🫴

[frigid wedge]

i was doing this

[north garden]

thanks

[opal ingot]

youre welcome

[cobalt blade]

for full mirage you do dom scarab of terrors strat 3x dom 1x terrors 1x 8 mod

[frigid wedge]

ur gonna get them rarely tho

[bleak quiver]

for full mirage you can just use either of the bossing strats and add in delusions

[cobalt blade]

since full mirage is flat drop chance from miraged map bosses

[tacit crow]

nasty nasty nasty

[frigid wedge]

yeah u wanna farm map bosses for miraged maps

[frigid wedge]

pleaseeeee

[opal ingot]

@tacit crow please please please give me 25 mirrors

[frigid wedge]

not awakening?

[frigid wedge]

also for deli u drop 1 shrine scarab

[cobalt blade]

ye true

awakening also works keep forgetting ab out that ye

just rly anything to shove more map boss

[frigid wedge]

awakening is 4 to 5 bosses but its rippy icl

sometimes it just adds the entirety of the feared and they always get clumped together

[cobalt blade]

pandemonium can drop em too right

[bleak quiver]

yes, terrors is just better tho

[cobalt blade]

youd prob honestly drop terrors with only running 2x dom run adversaries+pand

[bleak quiver]

maximizing bosses in mirage with pandemonium is hard

[cobalt blade]

true but i think mansion you can get enough itsfine

[dim turtle]

merp

[bleak quiver]

mansion dsnt really get that many packs inside the mirage

[frigid wedge]

icl wouldn't u just go awakening, pandemonium, delusions, corruption and maybe escalation just for some normal 8 mods

[bleak quiver]

the shrines do NORMALY get packs, but mansion culls them a lot

[cobalt blade]

it gets like 50% of the mansion though and usualy includes the more open part

[cobalt blade]

ye escalation has no effect on mirage ones though just non mirage

[frigid wedge]

ye just for some extra ones

[cobalt blade]

yer

would just farm those in a normal map farm personally

[tacit crow]

whaaaat

[cobalt blade]

get more total mirage ones with smth else

[frigid wedge]

it shits out astrolabes and chisels too if ur using awakening

[bleak quiver]

getting mirage maps with both corrupted and delirium is hard yeah

the scarabs dont fit

[full kraken]

yup, thats why I think merc is gonna be the main affix that will be what we chase

[frigid wedge]

they dont fit if ur going shrines for bosses

if u use awa and pandy its oke

[bleak quiver]

yeah, which is the better way for mirage maps specifically, if you are going pand just swap to city square and just get them as collateral from doing the better strat

[frigid wedge]

yee

i hope my vls ends up able to run awa

[bleak quiver]

i think that as long as you have explode awakening is easy

unless sirius does his magic trick

[cobalt blade]

low key u could run beyond scarab and grab tainted on the side with how mid 5th scarab is

[bleak quiver]

and teleports to the conqueror arena

[cobalt blade]

awaken pand delusion corrupt resurgence

[bleak quiver]

that does sound intresting

[rose quail]

I'm a gumball farmer so for Haunted I just run Interference. I'm doing whatever strat I feel like there and I just have extra space for scarab when doing betrayal+heist so its some extra monies

[frigid wedge]

nah i have rlly big explode, i get off screened by either dread circle, 4 shaper beams, insta sirus beam or random venarius beam

[cobalt blade]

lol

problem with awakening is they just arent active offscreen for ur explode

[frigid wedge]

they seem to have a very high preference to having not a single pack in a 3 mile radius of them and being fully clumped together

so u get quad beams from 2 screens away

and my elementalist gets very easily tapped

id love to fit block but it seems unrealistic

unless i try to force some block smalls

[bleak quiver]

maybe its cuz i only play tanky builds, never really had trouble with them

[frigid wedge]

my phys max hit is 8k and my ele max hits are 28k on this elementalist

[bleak quiver]

besides, again, sirius in those fucking tiny conqueror arenas

[cobalt blade]

holy

thats something i look at in pob and discard if i cant get it to atleast 15k phys 50k ele

[frigid wedge]

with progenesis

[tawdry olive]

Somehow it works if you have headhunter and block.

[cobalt blade]

<hates hh

[frigid wedge]

my deadeye for vls with no progen and a tsbula on has like 10k diff in max hits to my elementalist

[cobalt blade]

specifically shroudwalker

[frigid wedge]

i did ubers on the same build last league

[split palm]

I mean ubers are basically

Either

Does 0 dmg

Or oneshots

[knotty geyser]

alt spam was nice to me

[frigid wedge]

This league
Last league
still deciding whether to go as far as last time

[split palm]

Wow, embedding links in a cool way

[frigid wedge]

hmm?

[cobalt blade]

think with golem nerf it doesnt seem worth going thaaat hard into it

[split palm]

Not 20 lines of text

[bleak quiver]

[text] and (link)

[cobalt blade]

u can also just type text and ctrl v a link onto it

and discord does it automatically

[knotty geyser]

text in brackets, link in parenthesis, add <> on either end of the link to remove embed or do that ^

[frigid wedge]

why the triangles

[cobalt blade]

removes embed

[knotty geyser]

to remove the embed

[spice pecan]

shit i need to get 27 mirrors in standard

immediately

[frigid wedge]

ah

[frigid wedge]

for?

[spice pecan]

a demigod ring

[opal ingot]

show so i can snipe

[cobalt blade]

im poor in standard or id snipe

[opal ingot]

oh

[cobalt blade]

well

poor raw currency wise*

only 2m

[spice pecan]

hmm, i wonder how long it would take to actually farm 27 mirrors in standard at 1.6k div a pop

sadly my only functional character in std that's good is my str stacker unless i wanted to do duo shit

[cobalt blade]

depends on how much quant gear you have tbh

i think you can kinda farm raw mirrors rn with enough

[spice pecan]

none, but i don't think that's the play

i assume it would just be harvest and beasts

[frigid wedge]

i have less than 200d in std iirc

[cobalt blade]

eeeh

i dont think vultures sell fast

[spice pecan]

i have like 900d in std xdd

[frigid wedge]

make a tr and farm vultures

[cobalt blade]

lmao

[spice pecan]

sheesh

[frigid wedge]

ysah

[spice pecan]

thats depressing

[frigid wedge]

frogs morrigans and vultures

[cobalt blade]

shit selling slow is part of why id personally do raw currency farming

[knotty geyser]

bird prison is forever

[spice pecan]

yeah you probably right

[frigid wedge]

are ur generic crafting beasts

[spice pecan]

but then id have to juice in standard

omegalaughing

[cobalt blade]

ye

[dim turtle]

6d ago

[cobalt blade]

verymeme

the other part is because the actual best currency farm is flipping legacy in league items

ex buying 50 accel belts and assuming thyey go legacy

[spice pecan]

yeah that's definitely the play

wish i kept some double explode bereks around

[cobalt blade]

or if you have flask effect tattoos those are a mirror each

[bleak quiver]

get grey winds, they are for sure lowering the base %

[cobalt blade]

those are too common

[bleak quiver]

not volatiled

[cobalt blade]

true actually

volatiled+tempering sure

[frigid wedge]

btw mythik heres alesias mfa, id have made some changes personally for recovery and qol but u get the idea

how pain is rolling the explicits for adorned jewels

is it bad enough to warrant alt imprint aug

[bleak quiver]

the worst part

yes

[spice pecan]

wew that's a build

[bleak quiver]

it depends a lot on what type of jewel, and if you are settling for bad rolls

[spice pecan]

and that's definitely one of the trees of all time LMAO

looks kinda spicy tho

[frigid wedge]

yeah its just

way worse now

xD

[cobalt blade]

depends on the rarity of the mod

for max res yes

[frigid wedge]

i do wonder how well it could perform if I swapped it to a khatals setup to hold the ramp for longer

[split maple]

does sorrow of the divine work with quaffing runegraft?

[frigid wedge]

iirc no

if u wanted that id use wellwater phalactery

for recharge

[split maple]

oh rite we were talking that yday ty

[cobalt blade]

wiki says no

[split maple]

also for these abyssals you got there i wouldnt imprint, they pretty sane if you go for fbl aug + annul each time you hit mana

[cobalt blade]

and instinctively id agree based on wording too tbh

[frigid wedge]

esm what u cookin

[split maple]

trying to force ekom to have dmg and to not have mana issues still

[frigid wedge]

it was a separate question, i need mana crit multi cobalts

[split maple]

and failing miserably

[frigid wedge]

inspiration support

send current pob?

[cobalt blade]

lifetap

[split maple]

doesnt rly exist yet

gave up now on hive for dmg, nebulis for dmg, yoke ailment stacking for dmg

trying to force khatal frostmage now

[frigid wedge]

lmaoo

[copper vale]

Send pobs

[cobalt blade]

but uh ekom very much loves gem levels if u can farm a focused in the gsf and do the pain of chaos spamming for +1 all into annul> aug phys

[frigid wedge]

surely we can just retune the spark pob with some -flat

[split maple]

yea we have 2 focuseds rn

but not rly into that pain 😄

[cobalt blade]

could be a route then

fair

[copper vale]

Do it and mist it at the end for more pain

Pain is gud it make u stronger

[split maple]

only droped one mist this league 😛

[copper vale]

[split maple]

yea issue with spark pob is its full on int+str stacker gear already

of which i dont have practically nothing made yet 😄

like if i wont find anything that i am rly happy with there i will just go straight into spark once gear is done

[cobalt blade]

if u were willing to risk deleting a focused u could also try recomb stuff for crit multi +4 but ofc gsf so alot riskier

[split maple]

especially coz rn this guardian rly wants to be elementalist or inquis instead

[cobalt blade]

but alot less painful than chaosing for +1 all

[copper vale]

Oh u play sf?

[split maple]

eh fuck cannot go wellwater and ci too

coz i dont trust they fixed that bug

[cobalt blade]

remove s till kills u yes

since it rounds down

your 0.7 life to 0

[split maple]

nah its not that, iks tested last league

text on flask is wrong

its remove % mana recovered from life

[frigid wedge]

just go inq then :P

[cobalt blade]

wut

it says removes life but does mana?

[split maple]

it removes life

but amount is based on mana recovered

[frigid wedge]

based on mana

[split maple]

not % of life

[cobalt blade]

oh

cursed

[tacit crow]

i love spark i love reap mines i love vivid vultures

[split maple]

well it was last league, idk if they fixed

but i think it wasnt in patchies

[cobalt blade]

yknow im not entirely following how that works in my head i might be tired

but id believe it there do be some level of spaghet

like if you dont recover any mana does it just work with ci is what went thru my head

ex 0 mana from perfect reserve

(very basically wondering if it works as a way to enable wicked ward on whispers pob with perfect reserve and still use shrine belt from the flask instantly turning off since your reaching max mana of 0)

[frigid wedge]

ah right

[mellow ginkgo]

guys any idea wht instant leech not working in this map ?

[frigid wedge]

perma vaal discipline

get a 15 charge ripper

and some flask gen

:D

[cobalt blade]

cursed

[frigid wedge]

how

either way u gotta gen flask charges and click a button

mwant uh

discipline

not clarity

[cobalt blade]

cos soul ripper disables belt ):

but you could run single flask and precision watchers instead

or some other source of flask charge on crit

if it functions

[frigid wedge]

how do you

deal with wellwater

it does same thing

belt is just

flask effect

[cobalt blade]

shrine belt

[frigid wedge]

it doesnt matter what type

yes

[cobalt blade]

0 mana

[frigid wedge]

belt is just during flask effect

[cobalt blade]

instantly turns off

[frigid wedge]

ah

so ur just tryna get a recharge button

[cobalt blade]

Since a when use effect should let you use it at 0 mana

yup

+yknow just run 5 of them and rely on killing

[frigid wedge]

lmaooo

[cobalt blade]

its dumb enough im logging in to test it

[grizzled sapphire]

“97% less recovery rate of life and es”

[frigid wedge]

shouldn't matter on instant

[mellow ginkgo]

but , as i know instant leech counter less recovery mod

[grizzled sapphire]

instant from what

[cobalt blade]

ah dang the when use effect doesnt work with 0 mana

[grizzled sapphire]

The mastery?

[mellow ginkgo]

yes

[frigid wedge]

1 unreserved

and pray it rounds down

[grizzled sapphire]

Well thats the only one that really kind of relates to why ur instant leech isnt working

[mellow ginkgo]

i sacrificed like 10 points to get that instant leech 😄

to counter this map mod

[split maple]

are you using claw instant leech mastery or leech mastery?

[cobalt blade]

still wont work since mana isnt empty

[mellow ginkgo]

but seems not even working

[rose quail]

Show pob

[mellow ginkgo]

leech mastrey

[cobalt blade]

pathed that mastery to check and it does kill me sad

[frigid wedge]

obviously u should just use agnostic

[bleak quiver]