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[sleek barn]

it's using celestial mathematics right

[dark sequoia]

Ruthless lines up with the crit boots

I have to keep track of ruthless hits though because there's no indicator which is super annoying

[bleak quiver]

its a cooler falcrum, i dig it

[dark sequoia]

because i will not ignite the pack on hits 1 or 2 if my ignite falls off

and i will die

also explodeys can't ignite because it's perfect agony

[tranquil umbra]

nah it's still goated for crit with the ff

[twin arch]

this game fucking sucks

[sleek barn]

holy shit it's also PA

I bow down

I aspire to get to your level of memery

[steel light]

🙂

[dark sequoia]

Okay I have a dumb idea for how to use my duelist.

I go life based self cast forbidden rite.
I use witchmark to get the life cost super high.
I go tainted pact with golden rule and saresh bloodline.
I use a delve helmet with 'chaos res is zero' so that I always savage hit myself with forbidden rite.

[surreal mulch]

does anyone know mechanics that scale infinitely with attack speed like trauma does?

[bleak quiver]

ive seen that before

[sleek barn]

does catalyst work?

[bleak quiver]

it should work

[steel light]

which?

[bleak quiver]

not with saresh tho

[sleek barn]

no idea

[dark sequoia]

Maybe I should just do arakalli spiders with like
General's Cry Pestillent Strike

[sleek barn]

elemental probably

[twin arch]

cant win them all

haha

hahaaaaaa

[dark sequoia]

Champ can do spiders right

[bleak quiver]

golden rule dsnt work with general i think

since its a proxy

[dark sequoia]

ye

I'm thinking in a different direction than forbidden rite nonsense.
Just thinking about a normal arakaali spider build

[surreal mulch]

the only one I can think of is like poison plus wither on hit because wither lasts pretty short and is hard to cap unless youre minyons or have a long wither source

[bleak quiver]

yeah, its poison and trauma

the only other one is mantra o7

[surreal mulch]

can you do... both...

[bleak quiver]

not reaally

[surreal mulch]

what if poison trauma flicker

[dark sequoia]

Poison Trauma sounds funny
I tried to do that with self-curse temp chains a while ago

[bleak quiver]

trauma does A LOT of damage

[surreal mulch]

I can tell

technically physical damage already scales poison and you don't need to convert it. though it helps

[dark sequoia]

If you use Fated End with shackles of the wretched, you'll get a temp chains that goes up to 220% effect no matter what and ignores (functionally) the less effect modifier.

So Fated End + Shackles + Runegraft of the Warp = 4x duration of trauma stacks

[bleak quiver]

my self temp trauma stacker still lingers in standart, will never delete him for the memories... coolest build ive ever made....

unfortunately self temp chains kinda dsnt work anymore, the effect is capped

[dark sequoia]

It's capped to 75%, but that's still 4x duration

[limpid prairie]

Does Delirium work weird in some zones? it feels almost impossible to extend Deli up to the boss in some maps

[bleak quiver]

it aalso does half to players

[limpid prairie]

Skill issue?

[surreal mulch]

does that mean you can drop one of the pieces?

[heady cliff]

why dont you yoink ninja builds? https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/?allgems=Determination%2CGrace%2CPurity+of+Fire%2CPurity+of+Ice%2CPurity+of+Lightning%2CDiscipline%2CHaste&items=Aegis+Aurora&sort=ehp

[dark sequoia]

What I hate is the immunity to ignite if ignited recently means you can't use it on a fulcrum build.
And the janky skysunder character I have needs gloves for that extra ward.

[cobalt blade]

the fog can get stuck on terrain

and not spread

city square is i think a notorious map for this from the bits of terrain sticking out in the back half of the map

or the start sometimes

[sleek barn]

honestly the gloves don't give that much

but it's not nothing

yndas carries so hard

[dark sequoia]

Is there a way to trigger contagion on kill or on hit at range

[surreal mulch]

I never done a poison build and doing it on fukin flicker of all things sounds giga funny

[limpid prairie]

damm buggy mechanics
i was testing maps around the atlas but many will stop half way probably cause obstacles
i never know if fog is behind or in front of either :s

[surreal mulch]

plus you can bino. daggers have good aps

[sleek barn]

poison is usually an archetype I fall into very often

[pulsar ice]

here goes the poof!

[sleek barn]

just becuase I like having all sorts of shit all over my screen

[dark sequoia]

Essence Drain of Wickedness seems 'fun' with Gluttony Support.
But that might just end up being a more complicated version of soulrend of the spiral.

[pulsar ice]

badge

[surreal mulch]

what if you just do warp plus rotblood promise does it cap?

or does it like. reduced effect of curses fuck you over

[slate compass]

Happy it sold but also now I have to remake another 🙂

[dark sequoia]

nah, doesn't work with fated end since it's an aura. I think rotblood gives you like, 12% slower expiry?

[onyx adder]

This is nearly unplayable fyi

[surreal mulch]

cmon why

[onyx adder]

Flicker autotargets so ur clear is terrible because u end up parked on the same mob for multiple hits

[bleak quiver]

you need 500% curse effect to cap temp chains, 520% with rotblood

[surreal mulch]

ancestral call?

[surreal mulch]

oh nvm

[dark sequoia]

Fated End works because it will continue to increase until it reaches 220% of base effect.

For non-auras.

[onyx adder]

If u add enough strikes and splash and whatnot u can make the clear merely worse than hit flicker

[cobalt blade]

Your still gonna be parked on the same mob lol

[onyx adder]

Instead of spectacularly worse

[bleak quiver]

with warp, you need 260% to cap

[cobalt blade]

unless your scaling poison enough a single poison kills instantly but just play hit at that point

[surreal mulch]

it's not about the clear my clear is already fantastic. I mainly want to fix singletarget being bad sometimes

[cobalt blade]

flicker poison wont have good st

[surreal mulch]

fuck

[onyx adder]

I mean it'll be okay but u dont wanna boss with flicker

[surreal mulch]

I mean yeah I figured

[rancid seal]

guys why people troll me

[surreal mulch]

I don't even know what I want

[dark sequoia]

220% of base effect is a bit more than double.
So right before it expires, you have effects expiring about 50% slower.
Combined with runegraft of the warp hits the 75% cap.

[surreal mulch]

other than attacku

[onyx adder]

If the only thing ur trying to do is use a second 6l to kill the map boss a little faster and ur alrdy stacking frenzies then eh maybe but u can probably use something like vaal double strike to evaporate the boss in that scenario

[dark sequoia]

Less curse effect makes the ramp slower but the window longer

[rancid seal]

i made clip how i kill simulacrum 15/15 deathless and people say stuff like your dps is too low can you even run t16 maps ... , simulacrum is like t16 map with 100% deli and 75% res to the element you use it is hardest stuff in the game litteraly

[sleek barn]

how do you normally self chill before archons tools was a thing

[bleak quiver]

for capping buff duration with self curse

[surreal mulch]

or boneshatter

[dark sequoia]

So 50% less from temp chains, then 20% less from hex master, and maybe 30% less from curse on hit, means you'll have a window of like 10 seconds where you're at 75% slower expiry

[surreal mulch]

they share stacks

[rancid seal]

only other place i saw hard mods like simu is nightmare maps at 100% deli and not even close since you can rerol them only rare corrupt 100% deli nightmare maps are as hard as Simu

[pulsar ice]

simu is definitely not the hardest content in the game, not even close

[dark sequoia]

golden rule with icefang orbit

[rancid seal]

oh really and what is harder ?

[karmic gust]

its still pretty hard content so if your build can do it sounds like fine build

[cobalt blade]

how long does it take you to do all 15 waves

[rancid seal]

i use simu as build test

[pulsar ice]

technically deep delve, but more realistically 8mod 100% deli t16.5 juiced maps

[sleek barn]

what's the amplitude of that chill

[cobalt blade]

valdos too

[surreal mulch]

every expedition scarab with the expedition keystone

[sleek barn]

minimum 10%?

[rancid seal]

very long since i loot and sort items

[cobalt blade]

very basically a good build does sim like in 15~ min ish or less

[rancid seal]

corrupt i agree non corrupt no , coz corrupt you get random mods and some are bad

[dark sequoia]

I think it's 10% but is scaled with your ailment effect.
So using Olyesa's Delight works well.

[cobalt blade]

even non corrupt is harder

the good mods are the hard ones

since different mods have diff multipliers for more currency

[karmic gust]

yea. also noone runs 8mod t16.5s anyway since they fixed that

[cobalt blade]

so you end up running -max pen maps constantly

[pulsar ice]

I literally afk wave 15 simulacrum without spawning my damaging minions, it's nothing, I can't do that in maps

[bleak quiver]

valdo > deep delve > 100% deli mod max map effect t16.5s with scaling mechanics (endless conflict and such) > simulacrums

[cobalt blade]

i would rank deep delve=valdos honestly

[rancid seal]

if ur coc with cold spells and simu is 100% deli 83 lvl stuff with 75% cold res (i am cold) and 40% reduced crit dmg taken i am crit , 40% more life (making boss 35M hp )

[pulsar ice]

depends on your definition of deep I guess

[cobalt blade]

they require similar character investment to actually reach 6k

[bleak quiver]

it really depends, delve is stable hard, valdo you can chose to just enter "you die" maps or not

[cobalt blade]

which is where depth stops sc aling

ye true

[rancid seal]

depend on mods

[cobalt blade]

i mean i can afk wave 15 sim regardless of mods

[pulsar ice]

me too

[bleak quiver]

same, very easy

[cobalt blade]

some really bad t16.5's can still kill me especially with altars

[rancid seal]

what is ur dps

[cobalt blade]

300m

[rancid seal]

that why

😛

[cobalt blade]

i also have 200k ish non conditonal ele max hit

[bleak quiver]

i have like 10m dps lmao, it really dsnt matter

[cobalt blade]

lol

[bleak quiver]

simu is a test of endurance not good build

[cobalt blade]

when i say afk i mean i can walk away from my pc with kosis and omni sitting there+every mob and i cant die

[rancid seal]

80% less is 60m dps / 75% less = 15M dps

[pulsar ice]

if you want to see why I can afk simulacriums with 0dps...

[cobalt blade]

https://pobb.in/mlCv1VQj5h1b

[rancid seal]

even with bad mods ur 15M dps

[sleek barn]

what else could afk mean

[cobalt blade]

same but es

[bleak quiver]

dps is not a requirement for simu
https://pobb.in/WUH0gvSFmgC_

as long as you have something stable, its fine

[rancid seal]

but if ur afk who kill stuff

😉

[normal hedge]

the cws

[karmic gust]

i cant afk because i need to prress my life flask sadge

[sleek barn]

CWS

[bleak quiver]

cws, like what i linked

[cobalt blade]

hold Q watch youtube in picture in picture

[sleek barn]

or do like cwdt lightning warp and finish in 5 hours

[surreal mulch]

cast on shit

[rancid seal]

i afk too i just hold 1 button / cyclone for my coc 🙂

[dark sequoia]

Okay I'm thinking champ spiders with foulborn witchbane for clear

[surreal mulch]

fb witchbane kinda ass

I tried it

[normal hedge]

naca wheres your wither source?cant find it

[sleek barn]

% too low but it's better than nothing

[twin arch]

uber feared rota moment

[cobalt blade]

cluster rilay

[normal hedge]

a

[cobalt blade]

its perma 15 wither

[normal hedge]

ahh

[sleek barn]

my beloved

unholy might

[normal hedge]

yeah

[surreal mulch]

if you give the spiders melee splash it's already about as good as an explode is gonna get

[cobalt blade]

with my cast rate and proj count from FR

[dark sequoia]

idk what to do for ascendancy points

[karmic gust]

if you are egoing champ spiders you alreeady should have banner explosions

[rancid seal]

in any case it is still trolling

[normal hedge]

i did that so i couldnt find it

xd

[karmic gust]

and if you arent going banners for champ spiders then why are you going champ

[dark sequoia]

Aura effect -> Fortify -> Banners -> Catarina bloodline???

[cobalt blade]

lmao

[rancid seal]

to call someone who run simu 15/15 unable to run t16 ..

[surreal mulch]

saresh bloodline

ez clap minion damage

the spiders can't even die

[dark sequoia]

Because I have a level 100 duelist that i levelled as an aurabot and I don't like melee builds

[tranquil umbra]

cast on extreme distres

[cobalt blade]

tbf you did say they were saying your dps is too low

which can be true

[dark sequoia]

but they're not damageable so they won't get the damage

[surreal mulch]

why cata

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/kCvrEIMvXw-h i had tthis old pob for champ spiders

[cobalt blade]

you can run a fucking sim with 100 dps if you want

[karmic gust]

idk if it will be any useful to you

[dark sequoia]

offering effect idk

[karmic gust]

but that was beforee bloodlines so 4th point was useless

[surreal mulch]

oh I forgot that word

[bleak quiver]

cwdt lightning warp 🔥

[karmic gust]

you can go bitter heresy

[cobalt blade]

not taking ftsltf seems troll ngl

[karmic gust]

if you dont have anything better

[dark sequoia]

Are there any non-melee builds (other than bloodsoaked banner) that duelist is the best class for?

[surreal mulch]

ok but consider... champ... ivory tower... farewell to flesh herald...

[karmic gust]

why? it doenst rly do anything for this

[sleek barn]

glad BV

[dark sequoia]

I'm considering. owo

[sleek barn]

not the best

but 99% block is whatever

[surreal mulch]

someone posted their agony herald glad earlier

[sleek barn]

just stick it in any build

[karmic gust]

and it alreaedy has 330% ms

[dark sequoia]

I made an ivory tower build with divine flesh once.

[karmic gust]

so bothering with corrupted fever just to enable adrenaline seems like waste of time

[cobalt blade]

should be better than worthy foe for defence though and extra recovery from when progen degen gets into a bad state

[karmic gust]

oh yea its def better than worthy foe but both kinda useless :d

[cobalt blade]

yer youd take bloodline over now

am just judging it in that context

:p

[bleak quiver]

petrified and distillate for adrenaline ez

[gritty garnet]

hey they just buffed taunt by like 900%

don't mind the 0 duration though

[surreal mulch]

mind you I'm not sure ivory tower and farewell to flesh is actually good

[grizzled lily]

ayyy first try

[dark sequoia]

There's no sources of minion impale other than the one cluster node, right?

[surreal mulch]

it's just that on paper it's 99% more damage

[dark sequoia]

Impale PotCG Holy Strike with master of metal? 🤔

[surreal mulch]

you can do champ bannerman summoner

[bleak quiver]

yeah, lets make a summoner even more clunky

[pulsar ice]

is that outdated for chance orbs? my omen of fortune doesn't work for some reason

[dark sequoia]

I saw a really janky impale somatic shell build.

But...

[sleek barn]

hit based holy strike feels shit anyways

not really a summoner build

[steel light]

i've boomed emity and svalin, fucking degen

[surreal mulch]

https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/dominating-blow-champion-build-guide

[haughty dirge]

Does Arn's Anguish and Ralakesh Endurance Current still work?

[cobalt blade]

what u trying to chance

[bleak quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/gamble-stan-twitter-peabody-mr-peabody-dog-gif-14326289508561902630

[haughty dirge]

Like do I get max endurance and max brutal?

[gritty garnet]

you still need to generate brutal (via endurance charges)

[dark sequoia]

Does Varunastra work with Blade Blast of Dagger Detonation?

[pulsar ice]

rathpith, and I think I got it, I just need to chance instances

[tranquil sedge]

count as max endurance, have to generate brutal

[surreal mulch]

what's the point in making 1h 3 white if recolouring them is giga easy when corrupted?

[cobalt blade]

you get max endu from ralakesh you need to generate endu for brutal

[surreal mulch]

why wouldn't it

[grizzled lily]

maxwyn

[cobalt blade]

ah if u consumed another omen in that instance ye

lol

[haughty dirge]

Okay cool, that doesn't sound too difficult

[surreal mulch]

blade blast is a spell btw

[haughty dirge]

Now to see what brutal charges do

[bleak quiver]

triple dmg

[pulsar ice]

poof?

[cobalt blade]

yes but it wants you to have a dagger

[surreal mulch]

I recommend not trying to do spells on duelist

[cobalt blade]

i think it wokrs with varu tho

[pulsar ice]

oooohhhh myyyy goooood

[real spoke]

max win

[bleak quiver]

HOLY

[gritty garnet]

neat

[cobalt blade]

holy rich

[real spoke]

holy giga max win

[pulsar ice]

double influence 6 6 8

[normal hedge]

wait just missing 1% life

[cobalt blade]

8% sacrifice 11% life too

[normal hedge]

thats huge

[bleak quiver]

11 6 6 is crazy

[real spoke]

didnt even brick block or es

[pulsar ice]

and double influence

[surreal mulch]

I should see if I can make that eyeball work

[dark sequoia]

Okay this is gonna be stupid but:
Varunastra Lancing Steel CoC Blade Blast of Dagger Detonation
Gladiator for Lucky Block and Weapon Master (20% more crit and other goodies)
Use Azadi Crest
Use Astral Projector
FF/FF 8% base crit from slayer

[surreal mulch]

dance with death...

[twin arch]

Now go find a buyer willing to spend 4mir for a 5% dps increase this late in the league

Smiiilers

[surreal mulch]

for crit...

[haughty dirge]

Now to see if 36% chance for triple damage is better than mageblood!

[bleak quiver]

no :)

[cobalt blade]

worse than shrine belt :3

[gritty garnet]

you want elder for bound by destiny rathpith though

[haughty dirge]

Can I have resonating and resistance?

Or are they both defensive

[bleak quiver]

if you have 3 kidneys to sell

[tranquil umbra]

we gotta kill you

[dark sequoia]

ye

[cobalt blade]

yes

[dark sequoia]

1 sec PoBing trash

[cobalt blade]

resonating is offence

[gritty garnet]

just get it in 2 different belts and swap between them before you get hit

[haughty dirge]

Oh, 4 mir

[tranquil umbra]

just wear 2 belts at the same time

[haughty dirge]

Mageblød it is

[bleak quiver]

still waiting for the bringer of rain rework that lets you equip 2 belts instead of chest

[gritty garnet]

that's what some people do when they can't afford double accel

[surreal mulch]

I threw up a quick dance with death static strike build but I only had like 48 crit chance even with triple lucky

and a bunch of crit wheels

[gritty garnet]

you need to be using ambush

[cobalt blade]

cursed as fuck

[haughty dirge]

I keep trying to make a build with that on poe2

But until we get swords it's no good

[surreal mulch]

oh yeah I guess you can use it once and then you have the buff huh

[haughty dirge]

Unless you wanna play Amazon yuck

[bleak quiver]

it exists in poe2? cool

[haughty dirge]

Yeah, grants giants blood (wield 2hander in 1 hand) without increasing attribute requirements

[surreal mulch]

that would be giga op. ggg seems to think belt is an important chakra

which tbf it is but yk. so is. the rest of the fucking body

[haughty dirge]

Once two hand swords come in sure there will be a fun dual two hand sword duelist build

[bleak quiver]

it would, and bringer of rain deserves the buff to get its former glory back

[heady cliff]

megahunter of headblud?

[surreal mulch]

there are so few dual wielding notables in poe2 it's not even funny

[cobalt blade]

its because they recognize anything printed in those slots has to compete with mb/hh

[dark sequoia]

POB isn't recognizing varunastra as a dagger

[surreal mulch]

most people just do 2h weapon plus shield which is like fair enough I guess

[bleak quiver]

just make a dagger with its stats

[surreal mulch]

are you sure

[cobalt blade]

like if they didnt print shrine belt as a belt and like ring instead or smth every shrine belt build would just have hh for mapping lol

[bleak quiver]

yeah, i tried that before

varunastra dsnt work with most shit

also vulkanus is just better...

[surreal mulch]

I'm really mad you can't use trauma support with paradoxica

why live

[tranquil umbra]

why not

[bleak quiver]

blunt weapons

cant bonk with no bunkage

[tranquil umbra]

skill issue

[surreal mulch]

yeah you traumatise everyone around

[tranquil umbra]

an axe is not a blunt weapon

[bleak quiver]

use the sides

[surreal mulch]

it's blunter than a sword

[cobalt blade]

you could hit with the handle

[bleak quiver]

no, just turn it sideways, people did that in real life

[surreal mulch]

btw why do weapon requirements sometimes show up in the green text and sometimes in the blue text

[bleak quiver]

increased or reduced

[tranquil umbra]

wdym green text

[surreal mulch]

cyan

on a gem

[tranquil umbra]

^

[bleak quiver]

its to how that its not the original value

blue always means its reduced than whats naturally

[surreal mulch]

yk how gems have grey text then green text then blue text

[pulsar ice]

damn foiled kalandra's touch has crzy swag tax going on

[surreal mulch]

no it's specifically just a numberless sentence

[cobalt blade]

support vs skill

support limitations put it in the regular text skill limitations put it in the top text

[surreal mulch]

yeah I figured it was that. but why

[bleak quiver]

to make a distinction

[cobalt blade]

because it can support melee attack skills that can use axes and idk maces or soemthing but you only want say close combat to be used with axes and swords

if it had cannot support skills which can use maces it would deny that

and i think theres also a wording distinction where top text tends to mostly include denying stuff?

[dark sequoia]

I have no idea what I am doing
How do you scale phys spells

[surreal mulch]

good question

anyways try relic of the pact

[bleak quiver]

with added as extra and hh

[cobalt blade]

phys as extra/conversion or entropic desvastation

[surreal mulch]

you can use relic of the pact with astral projector

it's funny

[bleak quiver]

and just worse

[cobalt blade]

i rly see no reason to astral project relic

[bleak quiver]

astal projector is such a shit item is imperssive

[cobalt blade]

it already hits everything on your screen lol

[vocal tinsel]

rolling for t1 spell damage on a wand is so ass

like 6k alts deep rn

[normal hedge]

its just 1/2500 alts

[cobalt blade]

genuiely find items with it and split them

[normal hedge]

or is it 1/3000 i dont remember

[cobalt blade]

if your in trade and trying to recomb

[onyx adder]

Yer its basically always useless for anything centered on urself

[surreal mulch]

how viable is herald of agony cyclone?

[normal hedge]

for what

[surreal mulch]

to get virulence

[onyx adder]

Which is 99% of the skills it works with

Ur allowed to use it on pyroclast mine and shockwave totem

[cobalt blade]

just lancing steel

[onyx adder]

And no other case

[surreal mulch]

yeah but that requires stopping

and looking at stuff

[cobalt blade]

cyclone bad since ur in melee range now

[surreal mulch]

I'm immune to hit damage

but yeah I suppose enemies do shit on the floor quite often

[vocal tinsel]

i would but thats a 50/50 to lose my base. crafting an over qual wand. bought 2 and split them into 3 each so I could find +1 all spell skill gem and t1 spell damage to recomb as a starting point

[cobalt blade]

oh fair if over qual then

gl

[surreal mulch]

oh yeah I suppose you can just cwc some spell

[cobalt blade]

might be better off fossiling on that for a starting point

[surreal mulch]

is he cooking or cooked https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/gxgro-7196/Vertij

[vocal tinsel]

ty lol. hoping its soon. have 3 wands with +1 spell gems alr and its the same weight

[bleak quiver]

thats a pretty regularr build?

nothing really being cooked

[surreal mulch]

so the cyclone speed is like giga irrelevant right

damn

[bleak quiver]

yeah, he's just using to not aim with ball lightning

and instead have it double spin

probably a bosser since he has 0 ms

[cobalt blade]

yeah orbiting is doing 13 hits per one

[dark sequoia]

https://pobb.in/T5rBgBfEbDWg

halp idk what I'm doin

[surreal mulch]

put some clothes on

[normal hedge]

dont play varunastra

[full kraken]

I swear to god I didnt make this temple like this on purpose it just happened

[bleak quiver]

its t0 it gotta be good

[full kraken]

yes, that is also a T3 traps room on bottom left as the cherry on top

[steel light]

someone's gonna buy it and trade to streamer to gamble, then streamer annoyed by map thinking on purpose 🔥

[bleak quiver]

its almost the worst temple ever that somone made one time

it was trap on the left like this, then this same path, but the first room was atziri, and corrupt was in the last

[slow sonnet]

The Vaal architects making sure that their people's biggest cultural landmark will be as labyrinthine, nonsensical and confusing as possible.

[steel light]

the worst would be t3 corrupts, with no room linked

[bleak quiver]

maybe this

so you have to run all the way back

[full kraken]

yeah it could be more cursed for sure, especially with an atziri halfway through

[surreal mulch]

you need one where you path through apex and atziri yes

[bleak quiver]

it can path trough boss but you dnt need to kill it

[full kraken]

and yeah it has to path through atziri on opposite sides so you cant skirt the edge

[north garden]

anyone have a giga juice blight strat?

[full kraken]

🤔

[normal hedge]

only if you go back to 3.27 lol

[vocal tinsel]

gave up on rolling after another 2k alts with nothing. bought some t1 spell damage wands to recomb and lost all the bases lol

[cosmic eagle]

ravaged map else regular blight is deadge coz scarabs are deadge

[hard cliff]

Hahaha

[short prairie]

i swear to god if i dont get a single vivid vulture in the next 20 maps im gonna lose it

farmed for like 5 days of beasts

still havent seen a single one

[normal hedge]

:holy:

[surreal mulch]

is it 4 mirrors

[normal hedge]

30 something divines

for a 5% more dmg

why widowhail doenst have a divi card unxdd

[steel light]

20/20 uncorrupted

[earnest raven]

I guess just run lab for $$

[bleak quiver]

yep 20/20 transfigureds are money, unfortunately buying then is a pain in the ass

filled my shit with them once and then never again...

[surreal mulch]

oh yeah I could run lab...

[calm yacht]

i have a friend who does this on purpose when he's doing alva farming

[surreal mulch]

is 400k dps enough for izaro anyways?

[lean urchin]

its not a timed fight, 1 dps i s enough

[bleak quiver]

yeah, -10 dps is enough

[surreal mulch]

its a timed fight because eventually you eat a volley and die

[bleak quiver]

well, skill issue and build issue

[calm yacht]

honestly never really have a situation where my dps is too low for izaro, typically what happens is I kill him too fast for his mechanics to work properly

[surreal mulch]

I mean me neither but I also don't remember the last time I was on a build where I felt like I didn't have enough dps

this is new to me

[plush gulch]

I could teach you the dark arts

[surreal mulch]

so I wanted to know if that also applies to izaro in imbued uber lab

[plush gulch]

my first build failed in act 4

[bleak quiver]

just weapon swap to some mine shit and instakill him

[plush gulch]

😔

forever stuck to piety

well it's been deleted by now

[surreal mulch]

oh well not counting the first baby build

though my very first baby build still did acts

properly

[plush gulch]

I tried voltatix burst cast when channeling cyclone

[surreal mulch]

it was some dumbass ball lightning spellslinger thing until l realised I have more dps slinging balls myself

[plush gulch]

it wasn't a good idea

jellywig himself amoung us 😮

[calm yacht]

ah yeah, classic

[plush gulch]

we famous

[calm yacht]

i baited myself into poison chaos conversion firestorm for leaguestart, finally switched to minion pact BV a few days ago

[plush gulch]

minion pact

[surreal mulch]

eww

[plush gulch]

🤮

im sure you have fun unlike our peasant build

[surreal mulch]

(i should buy a minion pact gem for standard for when it's drop disabled inevitably)

[calm yacht]

it's so fun, I have 90% explode between gloom shrine and obliteration

[plush gulch]

it kinda feel not fun to me

[surreal mulch]

though I bet someone already has a vault of like a hundred of them

because it's a giga obvious thing

[plush gulch]

like if I don't earn it nor have any downside

it feel cheap

that's why I make bad builds

I never use strong stuff

or ideas

for once I did and the build is nice

make a difference

[calm yacht]

the problem is then I have to play a bad build

[plush gulch]

https://pobb.in/6tUMozm_TGhi

I created this

this league

im very happy

[surreal mulch]

bv lowkey bad

[plush gulch]

bv sounds annoying to play

im not touching it

especially if it's an underage bv

[surreal mulch]

huh

[onyx adder]

did u ever see the charanjaydemyr epic rant about act 4 piety at release

[plush gulch]

no

😮

no idea what it is

[onyx adder]

i think that was the first time i really realised poe was full of autistic people

[plush gulch]

just me joking around

[plush gulch]

what happened

[onyx adder]

so this guy was POE's original whale

[surreal mulch]

I figured I'm just wondering about how that's related

[onyx adder]

big initial backer, poured thousands and thousands of dollars into the game, designed the goddess swords

this was all when poe had like 2 acts or whatever

[plush gulch]

because I use the word touch, at 2 am and me being tired I don't need to make much sense

[surreal mulch]

wait is it the same guy that made that one ass sword and barley plays the game

[plush gulch]

things happen

[surreal mulch]

yep lol

[onyx adder]

eventually act 4 releases and this guy unleashes an epic rant about how act 4 piety is unbeatable

[surreal mulch]

pff

[onyx adder]

and how none of his hardcore characters can ever beat piety because the laser one shots them

[plush gulch]

wait what

[onyx adder]

and quits forever

[plush gulch]

act 2 boss isn(t easy

so idk

[surreal mulch]

I got to lvl 90 this gauntlet btw

[onyx adder]

thats impossible, act 4 piety in hardcore is unbeatable

with mods its extra unbeatable

[plush gulch]

act 1 and 2 bosses are pretty tough so I don't know what he expected

it's weird

they weren't going to get easier

[onyx adder]

I cant find the thread 🙁

[plush gulch]

it's in the pantheon of the gods

holy tex

text

[onyx adder]

im pretty sure he was trying to dodge the laser at max distance because its scary and u should stay far away from scary things

and everyone was trying to teach him basic mathematics

and he would just unleash a 6 page rant on anyone who responded

[plush gulch]

me I dislike how the poe community is braindead nobody can think for themselves

😔

streamer new vod

go follow it

new streamer vod

new build

go follow it

[onyx adder]

im ok with that as long as the build is good

[livid quarry]

its amazing now that t17 isnt meta spectres and ag dont die that much

for non minion builds

[plush gulch]

I remember looking companionship support 1c league start

one week

[onyx adder]

if the build is bad then they will come in here and ask stupid questions and i will get cranky

[plush gulch]

a guy made a vod shot up in price like crazy

[onyx adder]

but if its good then they dont ask stupid questions

and i am happy

[plush gulch]

and me thinking : NOW ITS GOOD ???

it was always very good

😔

but it was one chaos

a streamer reminded them 15% dmg taken from spectre instead of them was good

so it made sense

for them now

[calm yacht]

isn't it good just because more life for minion pact good

[onyx adder]

yea

[plush gulch]

nah it's before the minion pact

tech

like shock nova

[twin arch]

i hate awakened trade sometimes holy fuck

i thought this was 1d

[plush gulch]

you throw perfect spirit of fortune

[twin arch]

until i removed siege axe

and went to any 1h axe base

[plush gulch]

=and companionship

[twin arch]

and now its 5c

[plush gulch]

it's crazy

[twin arch]

fuuuck

[plush gulch]

spirit of fortune is like one of the tankiest spectre

it's weird

[calm yacht]

it's the power of kuduku

[plush gulch]

also people just never try stuff

I would like people to be more adventurous so we discover even more stuff

but it is what it is

[livid quarry]

this game too pain to try stuff

i got tons of stuff i wanna try

but too much effort

and i made my own builds

[plush gulch]

for me the game is about making builds and improving them

I thought it was the point of arpg

[livid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/drops-chaosorbs-poe-pathofexile-poeloot-gif-11753370850132690330

[plush gulch]

I mean people do what they want to do im not the police i can complain a little bit

[livid quarry]

most ppl play to do this

[plush gulch]

😭

fubgooner

[onyx adder]

why does it matter what other ppl do tho

[plush gulch]

I dislike that aspect of the game, everything is about div per hour

[onyx adder]

yea sure ur not gonna find tech from people that just follow streamers

[plush gulch]

well why I am annoyed by some stuff or like other stuff

it is life

idk

[onyx adder]

but if ur trying stuff urself u dont care

[elfin shale]

wait i swear to god this had level 30 minion life not 30 infernal legion

Am i losing it

[onyx adder]

sure but theres reasonable annoyance and theres unreasonable annoyance

[bleak quiver]

each one plays however they prefer, simple

[livid quarry]

if i got 100d/hr and things were still relatively cheap i wouldnt be farming

[onyx adder]

let ppl have fun how they wanna have fun, and u can have fun how u wanna have fun

[plush gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/lays-ketchup-chips-lays-chips-potato-chips-canadian-food-gif-27479763

[cobalt blade]

rip

[onyx adder]

and if companionship is 1c and u find a good setup for it

[plush gulch]

I ate some lays too

[onyx adder]

then u win

[cobalt blade]

foulborn

[pulsar ice]

I would sell my soul rn for some lays

[onyx adder]

GGG should throw recombinator in the woodchipper

[vocal tinsel]

its nice for some things just got really unlucky

[lean urchin]

i agree, even though im allured to farm divs/hour instead

[onyx adder]

well yea i mean it works

[cobalt blade]

imo they should just make them useable for moving exclusive mods

[vocal tinsel]

i wish annuls wherent weighted towards lower weight mods

[onyx adder]

its just aids to use because 99% of the time ur step 1 is either u or somebody else clicks alteration orb until their mouse breaks

[cobalt blade]

not for finishing items just making otherwise impossible bases lol

[livid quarry]

dunno if ggg understands ppl care bout d/hr cuz they poor

[vocal tinsel]

that killed more than the recombinator today

[plush gulch]

well I find it hard to not be influenced sometimes by the whole community wanting to play a certain way everything is there to make you feel fomo and I dislike that, it"'s good if you feel unnafected by it at all

every vod you watch and stuff

about div per hour, everything that isn't the best is trash

anyway

[surreal mulch]

I'm still not entirely confident spirit of fortune works with azadi

[elfin shale]

wait overloaded intensity is crazy lol

[plush gulch]

yeah the gem is crazy

[cobalt blade]

you can care about div an hour and still recognize youll make more farming something you enjoy

[cobalt blade]

yer toss in nadir mode and its perma 3 stacks

[onyx adder]

i havent heard this particular conspiracy theory yet

[dark sequoia]

okay blade blast of dagger detonation coc varunastra gladiator is kinda rad

[onyx adder]

please elaborate

[dark sequoia]

I have no idea how to scale the damage to good levels tho

[elfin shale]

Do i need to put in normal intensify to gain stacks?

[twin arch]

i enjoy uber feared farming but i dont make more from it than i do simus

[bronze talon]

You have the free will to completely ignore the community and play your way, instead of maxing the speed at which you get currency, play based on self set goals and dont touch trade i/e

The entire game is free for you to use, why dont you?

[cobalt blade]

that just means you need to do more

smh

[bleak quiver]

also, ssf exists, just dont trade, the game is already a glorified single player

[vocal tinsel]

its kinda sus that I rolled t1 inc spell damage 5 different times, and lost the annul(1/4 every time) 5 times in a row

[cobalt blade]

also need to factor in how fast u get bored doing smth you dont enjoy

[vocal tinsel]

not the first time its happened too

[twin arch]

i had one where i dropped a woke orb, a conflict orb, and a watchers eye

all at once

and im back to broke even

[cobalt blade]

weak D:

[plush gulch]

it's like i make my own build so I accept a certain level of im doing something dumb but everything is there to make you feel bad sometimes like you've got a nice idea and the only response you get is why would you do that instead of X which is the best way

[onyx adder]

eh thats only 1/1000, happens all the time

[plush gulch]

anyway idk yeah I still do my thing

[onyx adder]

the other 999 people just didnt brick

[vocal tinsel]

yeah but its happened basically every time xd

[cobalt blade]

fair

[plush gulch]

it doesn't affect what I do but can impact my enjoyment a bit at time

[onyx adder]

its ok i stole all ur luck

[twin arch]

like

for example

[vocal tinsel]

I had a similar experience when making axes earlier this league

[twin arch]

getting UUE and Uber Dread done

is 3000c

[onyx adder]

well ur allowed to ignore ppl telling u to play a certain way, for one

[twin arch]

its hard to make back 3000c

even in 1-2 feareds

let alone 10

[onyx adder]

and for two, its really easy to be hipster and bad in poe

[cobalt blade]

and then yoou drop a charlie and make 200d or w/e its at now

[twin arch]

i dont think ur making back 300000c in 100 feared

[onyx adder]

like, it's even easier than following a guide

[cobalt blade]

or a sublime

[twin arch]

ur not dropping a sublime

[cobalt blade]

they arent that rarei ts like 100 average to drop one

[plush gulch]

I know I do I woud like the game and community to be slightly less about div per hour and more about fun per hour but i'll do my builds and stuff

[bleak quiver]

you cant have that mindset for bossing

[cobalt blade]

^

[plush gulch]

I feel like im quite bad at the game still

idk if it will change one day

[bleak quiver]

your profits comes from those rare drops

you need to chase them

[plush gulch]

I guess im improving

[cobalt blade]

i do boss farming at some point every league youll always drop the rare itms if you keep up at it and that is ur profit

yea

[plush gulch]

at least

[vocal tinsel]

hell if i can hit the 1/1024 on annuls every time you can hit the sublime

[bleak quiver]

its all about reducing variance

[onyx adder]

u probably are bad, most ppl are. I make potato errors double digit times per league easily

[twin arch]

i mean i made a bit of money but

i cant sell my woke orbs until i hit the threshold

err

ratio

so im basically broke rn

hard to afford more invites

[cobalt blade]

u can just sell for chaos lol

[twin arch]

i was told not to do that

[cobalt blade]

its fine if you dont instant sell just make sure your selling for the x chaos to div ratio

[plush gulch]

at least I self crafted most of my rare gear this time beside mirrored rings

[twin arch]

i sell for whatever the currency to chaos ratio is

[plush gulch]

so im proud

and they are all very good

[cobalt blade]

like just dont take the instant buyouts hold alt check what others are listing for etc

[plush gulch]

still my proudest craft of the game so far

[cobalt blade]

now u re craft for overqual right

(just ignore u cant get that on sap shield)

[vocal tinsel]

twinning. my first league and my whole kit is self crafted apart from uniques

[livid quarry]

how much life do u have

[plush gulch]

4K life but im corrupted soul with 3K8 es

[cobalt blade]

yer youd just for 1480-1500 and accept taking a bit to sell it lol

[plush gulch]

I should have 4500 tbh but i messed up craftring my boots

[twin arch]

idk if thatd sell

theres like

100k+ stock

[cobalt blade]

compare that to divine price and it should be about the same

[twin arch]

ok but

id have to wait for all these to go

before mine sold

[cobalt blade]

no no you wouldnt

[vocal tinsel]

thats people trying to buy orbs

[cobalt blade]

ctrl click woke orb and youll see that 1450 listing

as the first buy

[twin arch]

o

i see

[cobalt blade]

^

[twin arch]

so list for the alt price

[cobalt blade]

correct

[twin arch]

cool

[cobalt blade]

just as i said never take instant buyout unless u wanna be lazy

[twin arch]

+4500c

[plush gulch]

also my first perfect wand 🤔

I never had such weapon before

[daring bluff]

is there a xp penalty for killing somenthing way higher level?

[vocal tinsel]

t2 spell damage D:

[plush gulch]

it's essence mod

[vocal tinsel]

yeah but its t2 tier

[cobalt blade]

ye

[vocal tinsel]

t1 is 100-109

[bronze talon]

Yush

[daring bluff]

hm is the max level?

[cobalt blade]

xp penalty applies for both over and underlvl

[plush gulch]

well I can't reasobaly get better

it's like as perfect as it gets

unless you are crazy

[vocal tinsel]

ive been crazy today lol

[elfin shale]

Will this proc even if there's only one enemy and cause it to detatch or something?

[daring bluff]

whats the sweet spot

same level?

[cobalt blade]

u can see rough penalty if you check pob dunno if its 100% accurate but it is noticeable if you try to 16's right at 68 for example

[elfin shale]

+/-5 is the limit

[daring bluff]

t

ty

[limpid prairie]

lvl 21/20 support are crazy expensive, 21/23 fortify doesnt even exist though?

[plush gulch]

I hated doing this helmet

[elfin shale]

6/7 actually mb

[surreal mulch]

depends on the support

some are giga cheap for some reason

[bleak quiver]

the some reason is that they can come fromm cards

[bronze talon]

8 between 80-95, 9 above 96

[surreal mulch]

people do cards?

speaking of which I desperately need to remove mitts from my filter

[bronze talon]

Its the best drug out there

[cobalt blade]

depends on how useful the quality is

[surreal mulch]

why is ninja pricing of cards so bad

[vocal tinsel]

i despised rolling this one for t1 res. settled with t2

[cobalt blade]

which in the case of fortify not very

[vocal tinsel]

still need to finish off implicits but cba

[cobalt blade]

1% inc damage people will spend for minmaxing tho

[plush gulch]

damn you spent so much on blockl

[vocal tinsel]

?

[bleak quiver]

ive been waiting for many of these to show up for weeks... only ele focus showed up...

[plush gulch]

I thought you block prefix into reforge phys and exalt orb

each time

[cobalt blade]

at some point you just accept u need to temple 20 odd of them

[vocal tinsel]

yeah but once you have phys you can gamble eldr annul

[bleak quiver]

ive also already deleted 20 sadism

[cobalt blade]

or w/e the odds are

o7

[vocal tinsel]

it cost me like 30d to make

[limpid prairie]

True 21/20 fortifty is 420C from 80C fortify 20/20 though

[plush gulch]

I made these

getting the res was annoying too

[elfin shale]

how tf is the % more damage more damage than the extra life at this point

[plush gulch]

and very stressful

[vocal tinsel]

i havent even attempted influenced yet

[plush gulch]

because you can't fail it well one wrong click and you are done

[vocal tinsel]

too costly for my budget lol

[cobalt blade]

yer cos the gem lvl is 1% more damage

[plush gulch]

and with 1Million click it may happen

[elfin shale]

ohhhhhhh

[cobalt blade]

vs the quality at 23 only being 3% fortify dura

[plush gulch]

it costed me 100 div tro make

and at the end forgfot to craft life

[vocal tinsel]

ive had 100d one time this league xd

[limpid prairie]

I was seeing it in PoB thats like 150k dmg
big

[surreal mulch]

kaka support

[plush gulch]

tbh I quit the league im just hanging out here and bragging about my item since im on a break from my other POE game

[vocal tinsel]

i think ima call it here soon too. good amount of learning ive done this league though

[bronze talon]

I need to go finish my cosmetic challenges, but I cant be arsed

[cobalt blade]

for u yes but the more minaxed you get the more dmg you get per 21/20

[vocal tinsel]

ready for my second league on the next one

[surreal mulch]

I should get bronns

[bleak quiver]

no idea why the ff is broken, its from the trade link

[plush gulch]

the only left for me are heist base ring with mist

but I hate those as principle

and that principle is me being poor

[cobalt blade]

my own pob as an example im getting between .5-1% per 21/20 across 3 gems along with 4/20 exceptionals

[surreal mulch]

I'm flopping between cyclone and flicker and both bronn

[limpid prairie]

I feel you are calling my build bad :(

[cobalt blade]

nah im just saying the 1%'s everywhere start to matter more

[vocal tinsel]

next league im gunna have to figure out a better build to start with. my league start was causing me a lot of issues paired with my lack of game knowledge

[bleak quiver]

you can also see how much you gain for overqual on gems

[cobalt blade]

yea

[plush gulch]

my league start wast blast rain of trarthus

it was

something..

[surreal mulch]

they should buff gem quality

[vocal tinsel]

i did earthshatter slayer lol

[plush gulch]

and you complain

lol

[surreal mulch]

I'm tired of "10% increased damage" supports

[cobalt blade]

like i dont give enough of a shit to get that quality personally

[bleak quiver]

they already nerfed it

[vocal tinsel]

its just too immobile for my liking but I know that now

[surreal mulch]

make ashes great again

[grizzled lily]

holy now i get why rue plays this

[limpid prairie]

static strke approves this message

[surreal mulch]

no I mean skill gem quality is still pretty good

[plush gulch]

I want to league start frost blade or reave

[bleak quiver]

build is peak fun

[grizzled lily]

ye

but i just finished it

[surreal mulch]

but support gem is usually ass

[grizzled lily]

i didnt try it on a good map yet

[vocal tinsel]

i think ima do a ranger build next time and do something with bows

[grizzled lily]

kinda scared

🥺

[vocal tinsel]

something ranged

[plush gulch]

toxic rain pathfinder super solid

[cobalt blade]

basically paying the extra div for the slight dmg up is just super efficient compared to spending that div elsewhere

[bronze talon]

laughs in party play

[cobalt blade]

was trying to think of how to properly word that

(or in some cases the 5 div

[plush gulch]

hierophant balista solid

[bleak quiver]

as long as you built it right, you can run anything, this can run anything besides less block

[plush gulch]

wrong ping

ffs

[grizzled lily]

https://pobb.in/ZfXhBYcEQIr6

[plush gulch]

kafka and piragon in voice chat

[bleak quiver]

phys reduction is boring but not bad

[grizzled lily]

build atm

[plush gulch]

insane behavior

[limpid prairie]

Yeah at some point gear is soft blocked cause too expensive right? so gems arent bad to keep improving

[plush gulch]

how deranged

[grizzled lily]

idk i built it on a budget

[cobalt blade]

yer

[grizzled lily]

couldve put a 4 flask mb

but eh

[bleak quiver]

gems are actually a thing that people just forget for some reason

[cobalt blade]

like my next noticeable upgrade would be either 1p voices+88% or higher adorned or getting a 6% es per power+1max power charge ring

[plush gulch]

bleed bow very strong !

[grizzled lily]

same with primordial megalos but idk

too expensive

[cobalt blade]

basically everything else is non noticeable as an upgrade

[bleak quiver]

you can swap youur 20/20 for 21/20 at very cheap and get 10-30% more dmg depending on the build

[cobalt blade]

yer for sure^

[vocal tinsel]

haha ill wait and do a bit of research closer to league reset. instead of just jumping in 3 days after league start with no idea how to even play the game

[cobalt blade]

and for exceptional supports it can be even more nuts

such a balanced support

[bleak quiver]

mine is divinig this garbage...

[plush gulch]

bleed bow slayer stack frenzy charge I like it because it's like tanky for a bow character

you don't fall down

[grizzled lily]

question, why was i supposed to use bladefall of thartrus every time/

[plush gulch]

at any hit

[bleak quiver]

annoying ass jewel

[bleak quiver]

you just activate it at the start of the map

and it enables your auto-bombing

it keeps cf on and applies it fully automatically, so you can just go full afk

[limpid prairie]

Imagine having good exceptional supports :(
Strike elemental build cant use shit

[cobalt blade]

rip

they get invert and unholy trinity tho if lightning

[grizzled lily]

how do i know if i did properly?

[cobalt blade]

and greater multi strike

[plush gulch]

@vocal tinselI said I wanted to play reave or frostblade but I just remembered tincture exist 😭 🤮

[cobalt blade]

and greater ancestral for clear actually

as a gemswap

[bleak quiver]

its really hard to do it wrong, its just blade fall + life tap, and you are done

[surreal mulch]

I wonder if the reason they let runegraft of gemcraft go to print is because they know it's really not that impactful whatsoever for most builds

[bleak quiver]

activate cf and it, and see if it stays on perma

[limpid prairie]

i have double curse i wonder if Invert the rules could be worth while tbh
too lazy to PoB that

[bleak quiver]

it was before, not anymorre

[cobalt blade]

one of the most ran gemcrafts last league btw and I'm p sure its why they tagged the new supports as exceptional lol

[elfin shale]

Where do you get the 4s version of this anyhow?

[cobalt blade]

it depends on how much ur spending for that double curse and your skill

[elfin shale]

or is it only for two-handers or something

[surreal mulch]

oh shit did it work on awakened

yeah no that's an oversight

[cobalt blade]

drops from temple

[cobalt blade]

Yer

[elfin shale]

TEMPLE? Kill me i thought it was veiled

[surreal mulch]

imagine plus one fukin enlighten

[plush gulch]

and it will be a total pain

[cobalt blade]

not anymore

[bleak quiver]

also, it allows for some interesting things, like not getting over corrupted gems for things that have breakpoints, very common for minion support gems

[surreal mulch]

or empower

[elfin shale]

alright not using that shit lmao

[cobalt blade]

no woke exceptionals were still exceptional tagged

[plush gulch]

based

not worth the headache

[surreal mulch]

I meant normal enlighten

[cobalt blade]

It was a solid upgrade to flat damage awakened gems etc

[surreal mulch]

awakened enlighten doesn't exist on my world

[cobalt blade]

those are also exceptional tagged lmao

[surreal mulch]

oh

[bleak quiver]

they are the original exceptionals

[surreal mulch]

right

[cobalt blade]

Im just pointing out its why overloaded intensity etc all got exceptional tagged

[surreal mulch]

yeah I just frogot

[cobalt blade]

because of how good gemcraft is

[surreal mulch]

and picked a bad example

a better example is like awakened multistrike

[cobalt blade]

nah

Better example is awakened coc

because it gave you cdr

[plush gulch]

personally I gave up on insentity and overloaded because losing aoe felt like ass

[cobalt blade]

yer its better for pinpoint

[bleak quiver]

also, awakened empower/enlighten/enhance are surprisingly cheap this league, and even fell in price

[surreal mulch]

[bleak quiver]

was so surprised to price check my woke empower 5 and see the price lower than when i got it

[plush gulch]

there are unique jewel making intensity better

[bleak quiver]

they used to double in price into the league

[plush gulch]

I just saw them the other day

[cobalt blade]

Yep i run nadir mode

[plush gulch]

pretty cool

[cobalt blade]

Apex is bad tho nadir good

[plush gulch]

it's the kind of thing you run for comfort

[surreal mulch]

are there strike skills with good clear other than static strike and flicker?

[plush gulch]

which is bis

[bleak quiver]

ls

[surreal mulch]

oh

cool

[cobalt blade]

smite too

[plush gulch]

what about reave ?

[cobalt blade]

smite with greater ancestral call is fun as hell

[cobalt blade]

not a strike

[plush gulch]

wait it's not

[tranquil umbra]

ele hit

[plush gulch]

😔

[bleak quiver]

thats why it sucks

[plush gulch]

I had no idea

[surreal mulch]

how big is ele hit side effect anyways

[kindred silo]

well basically every strike skill

[cobalt blade]

nah reaves good

[surreal mulch]

oh yeah I can just look them up on youtube

[tranquil umbra]

massive

[bleak quiver]

ele hit is a blinding hazard

[surreal mulch]

no lol

[cobalt blade]

Just needs you to be willing to snapshot

[kindred silo]

has better clear than flicker

[full kraken]

trying to sit and craft a +65 int 6W socket bow literally just for levelling gems over here, this is cursed

[plush gulch]

wild strike

[surreal mulch]

boneshatter has bad clear for example

[short prairie]

?

[surreal mulch]

in my eyes

[bleak quiver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlHejOzt9_4

[plush gulch]

wild strike you can go ice or lightning you get good clear I think

[tranquil umbra]

wtf

[cobalt blade]

why not just grab a 6w widow hail from temple

[kindred silo]

wut

boneshatter has good clear

[tranquil umbra]

wild strike of extremes

[plush gulch]

both

[surreal mulch]

if it's just like a strike and gets carried by ancestral call tribal fury then it's really not that good. unless you're doing atziris disfavour or some shit but at that point you're sacrificing a whole weapon slot

[full kraken]

that does not have 65 int on it

[full kraken]

need to not disable my item slots when I tap weapon slot lol

[cobalt blade]

I mean fair but how do you even get 65 int as affixes on a bow

[kindred silo]

boneshitter isnt tribal fury tho

[surreal mulch]

as fun as atziris disfavour is

[grizzled lily]

okay lets calm with these prices chat!

[plush gulch]

I wish the fire component was better but it's so useless

[surreal mulch]

oh yeah I should try wild strike

[full kraken]

godamnit I have whiffed on like 4 unveils on this dumb thing, its supposed to be a 46% chance of success

[surreal mulch]

it auto converts without investment

[cobalt blade]

would think your best bet is going bricked maloneys quiver 5:1 craft to get a 1 socket one and run int on that forego 2 sockets

[plush gulch]

wait aren't we shotgunning with + strike and the explosion from fire wild strike ?

like LS

[full kraken]

that means losing 2 sockets which defeats the whole point of the setup lol

[plush gulch]

kinda

aoe skill shotgun

[daring bluff]

any way to see dps on weapon like it shows on PoB?

[plush gulch]

im unto something

[cobalt blade]

yes but what is your plan after veiled int

[lean urchin]

awakened poe trade

[plush gulch]

my next league start

[cobalt blade]

You cant craft int

[plush gulch]

let's go

[cobalt blade]

its exclusive with veiled

[full kraken]

craft on int

[cobalt blade]

^

[kindred silo]

in terms of clear speed its probably like ls of arcing = static strike > regular ls > ele hit

[full kraken]

poedb doesnt think so

[cobalt blade]

it is

[full kraken]

both the crit and the attack speed mods are exclusive with int?

and each other?

[kindred silo]

or at least trans static strike should be as good as arcing, idk how it actually plays

[full kraken]

what about all attributes?

[plush gulch]

if im not wrong wild strike of the extreme isn't worth the hassle

to deal with downside

I heard

[tranquil umbra]

I mean