they should be same
#1┃general
karmic gust
bleak quiver
yes, pathfinder is 200x tankier
frigid wedge
have temptation lvl 4 and MoM, life doesnt actually start going down rn till 6 stacks
split maple
where id scroll Khailby
plush gulch
yes, pathfinder is 200x tankier
I never played pathfinder Im not a robot clicking my flasks 😭 but I should one day
frigid wedge
its just really zdps rn and im missing like 8 to 9k mana...
limpid prairie
have temptation lvl 4 and MoM, life doesnt actually start going down rn till 6 s...
"mom temptation"
plush gulch
@bleak quiver look I finished my wand
bleak quiver
damn, looking good
dim turtle
🙄
frigid wedge
"mom temptation"
you're definitely older than me but i don't think ur my mother's age
:P
plush gulch
damn, looking good
I thought and listen to all the ways to craft this but I think block chaos veil (annul is needed) then aug crit is like the only way. Because reforge crit can brick my wand 😔
so it's very limited as safe way goes
frigid wedge
wat
bleak quiver
you are an agent of chaos
bro is listing all the chaos pen passives
split maple
res+echo
limpid prairie
replenishig and a gloom
twin arch
why does Turquoise Amulet appear on my uberstrict filter
what turquoise amulet uniques are there
that are good
plush gulch
🤣 nah i was really really caming up with these
twin arch
brotherhood?
frigid wedge
greater skele
plush gulch
im a avid reader of fantasy book
dim turtle
2x greater skele
short prairie
split maple
brotherhood?
ye, also well rolled warped timepieces were good for kf
frigid wedge
greater skele pog
plush gulch
can't it be good on minion build btw
twin arch
do ice
plush gulch
you get lot of minions
twin arch
least annoying sound
frigid wedge
he's ssf
frigid wedge
https://giphy.com/gifs/american-pie-eUqVqjsQQQjp6
u got any suggestions on a cluster setup to solve my mana
bleak quiver
cool map chest mirage 👍 (pressing alt)
frigid wedge
this is atrocious to look at but the smalls are like 600 mana
dim turtle
i hate how op clusters are
my daily routine consists of how can i get more points into clusters instead of the actual tree
frigid wedge
xD
bleak quiver
i think you just only play a small section of builds
frigid wedge
my smalls r just openness + effect
dim turtle
i indeed do only play 1 build
frigid wedge
lul
karmic gust
i cant rly think of build that do not loves clusters outside of like slayers
heady cliff
i cant rly think of build that do not loves clusters outside of like slayers
new challenge - play 3 cluster build at the league start
karmic gust
maybe melee ele attack builds in general dont like clusters much
heady cliff
full cluster, not only larges
karmic gust
as the pathing on all of those kinda sucks
karmic gust
full cluster, not only larges
i mean with deli node wouldnt be that weird
cobalt blade
ah ye i saw it but didnt feel like looking thru your char to figure it out 
twin arch
thoughts @split palm
heady cliff
global 1, i hope?
twin arch
global 1
frigid wedge
thoughts <@513044064120340480>
ur alt account?
dim turtle
Thats the only mana item i remember since it made me big money ngl
frigid wedge
lmaoo
dim turtle
Well big at the time
frigid wedge
whats your current pob
b a d
tryna figure out how i would approach the mana bc it seems to primarily cluster oriented
or jewels
dim turtle
It quite literally is not possibly worse than mine so pls dont roast ur pob
frigid wedge
It quite literally is not possibly worse than mine so pls dont roast ur pob
I'm wearing a tabula and rampage gloves w a manifold im using literally just for t1 mana
split maple
I'm wearing a tabula and rampage gloves w a manifold im using literally just for...
maybe just foulborn kikaz at that point
and whats that big fat mana + mom chest again called
frigid wedge
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/SansShoto_-1609/mirage/character/SansShotoAttachment
if i get the regen needed, i can allocate chainbreaker, drop the soul ripper and also just... exist better
dim turtle
omg i love foulborn
dim turtle
I just slapped some foulborn bs today into my jewel slots to fix suppress hole
Felt great about it
10/10 would recommend
split maple
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/SansShoto_-1609/mirage/character/SansShotoAttachm...
and foulborn kikazarus
frigid wedge
yeah i know
but i don't wanna trap myself w shit like cloak when i need the pdr
from rares
livid quarry
whats the most comfy build
livid quarry
i think its rf too
loud geyser
78% spell block feels disgusting ngl
livid quarry
whats hive? autobomber?
loud geyser
these are the last few things to work on + fire res capping
split maple
whats hive? autobomber?
lost unity ring + full tree of herald tattoos pretty much
and yea 0button build
bleak quiver
phys autobomber and cws are super chill to play, love both a lot
frigid wedge
ah but you see
u can make hive far less chill
by building phys convert with no defences and a reap than u spam the shit outta
that also costs 300 life
:D
dim turtle
Ok hear me out, play blade flurry and suffer instead of having fun
frigid wedge
Ok hear me out, play blade flurry and suffer instead of having fun
vaal blade flurry w 100% reduced attack speed on rf
signal hawk
I wonder if there is anything that would make blade flurry good, given its abysmal dogshit gameplay
bleak quiver
generals cry
dim turtle
Uh
tranquil umbra
lost unity ring + full tree of herald tattoos pretty much
herald stacker my beloved
rancid sluice
im on a pb ignite herald stacker many enjoys
dim turtle
generals cry
dim turtle
I wonder if there is anything that would make blade flurry good, given its abysm...
if u are fine without having screen clear its somewhat okay-ish....
split maple
second batch of 120 coves
uniques were seer wishes
ngl i am starting to feel mental
unreal sand
if u are fine without having screen clear its *somewhat* okay-ish....
havent played it in years, but isnt it still pretty good on bosses?
charred condor
I really wanna do a blueprint
And I have one
But I don’t have all the heist members required
So sad
dim turtle
havent played it in years, but isnt it still pretty good on bosses?
Im ngl i dont uber much 
Not enough dps to make it profitable prolly or im just giga stupid
dim turtle
only misery
How about delve
charred condor
Ok
tranquil umbra
How about delve <:Hmm:1460050698178793605>
Delve is significantly less annoying than heist
because you just get sulphite and run around
dim turtle
I wanna try delve when i wake up 
drowsy ember
ah ye i saw it but didnt feel like looking thru your char to figure it out <:kek...
I get it no worry 🤣
I've tried to add one more curse to the gloves and it seems to hit always instead of getting weird behavior
unreal sand
I wanna try delve when i wake up <a:WIGGLE:964329557815623750>
Wake up, Neo... The Delve has you... Follow the big cart...
uncut sun
Alright I just installed the game back and I don’t have an atlas tree and the map device is fucked what they do
dim turtle
They kidnapped you into a dark distant world
dim turtle
They changed atlas this league 
dim turtle
ig its there too idk i never log into standard 
signal hawk
You see your mistake is playing standard
uncut sun
You see your mistake is playing standard
I’m not replaying the story every time I play the game
I play like once a month bro
signal hawk
But if you play the highest tier map it should unlock everything below iirc
pulsar ice
signal hawk
Oh yeah they changed how maps work, I guess standard is fucked anyways LUL
signal hawk
you can try do a tier 1 and see if it do the unlock everything bit
idk I don't play standard
delicate otter
Nor should anyone else
This game is a nebulous mass that does not stay static for long
Standard is bound to have some ample fuckery afoot when things like this are changed
dim turtle
Im ngl on standsrd even if u had to replay all 100 basic its like 40min max unless u r picking up dirt
uncut sun
It’s just annoying
Like I don’t wanna do that
I’m tempted to just like uninstall LOL
dim turtle
Well
delicate otter
well that's what you signed up for when you opted to play the forever league
dim turtle
The other 99% of players like to receive updates to their game idk what to tell ya
bleak quiver
you can do any map with any tier now anyway
delicate otter
It's perfectly reasonable to not wanna do it though
dim turtle
you can do any map with any tier now anyway
This
bleak quiver
you can just pick up a bunch of t16s and knock it out in 30 minutes or so
uncut sun
even if I was playing the normal league it it would be worse instead of replaying every map I’d have to replay the whole game
signal hawk
Kirac must be selling a new ver map
delicate otter
Yeah. Like the bulk of us do. Every 4 months
It's not for everyone but Standard is at the mercy of the league structure regardless
You'll have to adapt or move on. Them's the breaks.
split maple
even if I was playing the normal league it it would be worse instead of replayin...
There is a way to unlock standard progress isn't there
delicate otter
In the old system, sure
dim turtle
Ts changes once every blue moon man it aint that bad 🥀
delicate otter
The system itself has changed fundamentally so there's no way to know
split maple
"Reworked the system for catching up Atlas progress on Standard. Now, if your account has previously acquired any Voidstones, completing any node on the Atlas will complete every node of the same tier and lower."
So okay do one t16 in each quadrant
delicate otter
One thing we need to know is if standard maps converted to the current system
if not then he has to actually find a new map to do this with
slate compass
<:bla:1382111963479539952>
thats alot of ess farmin
split maple
The system itself has changed fundamentally so there's no way to know
Dude it's in patchnotes
slender elbow
i was gone for a few leagues. can someone tell me what in the world this person's wand and shield are? https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/standard/character/LeanderFalin-0345/MrShart?i=0&search=skills%3DPower%2BSiphon%26class%3DBerserker
unreal sand
Dude it's in patchnotes
That's too many words to read 😄
delicate otter
Dude, does he have a t16 waystone?
since you wanna be a smartass, the problem is if he has the means to do this
slate compass
i was gone for a few leagues. can someone tell me what in the world this person'...
cruicible
slate compass
standard stuff now
dim turtle
i was gone for a few leagues. can someone tell me what in the world this person'...
I love standard 🗣️
slate compass
Its never been a feature put into the game its just a relic now
split maple
Quant gear + unstable breach has to be a vibe
slate compass
Na its insane to try to play standard from nothing
split maple
A weird sad vibe but a vibe
slate compass
You can afford nothing in the economy
uncut sun
I did one t16 and got 110 atlas points we might be okay guys
dim turtle
Big
split maple
If I didn't drop 4 double respites last league my standard networth would be 0
So checks out
slate compass
gl finding it in my endless tabs ...
need some way to condense my standard tabs
its insane ive played since beta
So ...
its hell
loud geyser
mageblood? 
dim turtle
Need a 2nd one for the fee 
slate compass
mageblood? <:Pausers:942124570775810188>
gamba cards for better chance
delicate otter
Iunno how GGG has managed to just...let these things languish
slate compass
yeah imagine having a full bulk tab and having to empty it
dim turtle
delicate otter
You'd think they'd have an easier time of things if their database wasn't such a grizzled mess of old, untouched trash in standard
slate compass
You'd think they'd have an easier time of things if their database wasn't such a...
trueee
split maple
In league fees are small
delicate otter
Like there's a bunch of tabs I'd just straight delete
dim turtle
Nah they arent that expensive
delicate otter
I don't need anything in them so why force me to sort through it manually?
dim turtle
In standard the fire res chest is what 6mirr
Well... unless that i guess
slate compass
Is a 16m dps poison build gonna clear ubers relatively well its tanky
dim turtle
When was crucible
stark badger
ggg doesn't mess enough with standard. they could stand to get their rug pulled a lot more often
bleak quiver
why?...
twin arch
i just made some bomb ass endgame gloves
stark badger
doesn't ruthless just go to ruthless standard
twin arch
@split maple as you can see it worked
stark badger
what the FUCK
split maple
Cannot transfer the orb
stark badger
are you sure that isn't counting like, regular seasonal players organizing their tabs between each league
dim turtle
That 10% has 1% of playtime i'd bet my favourite soup on it
bleak quiver
yeah, standard is fun aas fuck, if the entry barrier wsnt gigantic i would 100% play it instead
min-maxing with legacy shit is cool af
split maple
Stash layout in New league is copied from standard
So if you want to prep your tabs in advance...
loud geyser
👀
split maple
Well more precisely from parent league, so if you want to ssf need to organize them in ssf standard, hc hc standard etc
dim turtle
I throw my tabs around to diff places every day 
bleak quiver
psycho behavior
unreal sand
I throw my tabs around to diff places every day <:aga:1326104494718845011>
Same. And when I start league I have them all in folders and take em out when needed
dim turtle
psycho behavior
I play bf i think its clear im not okay
unreal sand
who is in here
slate compass
Isnt the way you start with your tabs in league your standards tab set?
i.e color scheme and names
rancid sluice
you do it once and never touch it again
slate compass
but its chaos right now
dim turtle
Same. And when I start league I have them all in folders and take em out when ne...
Unlimited stash supply 
slate compass
how do I deal with .... 15 + leagues
bleak quiver
turn off remve only
slate compass
like 10 or something
split maple
how do I deal with .... 15 + leagues
Hide remove only in settings
bleak quiver
its off by default, so you enabled them
unreal sand
too many! hoarding like hell 😂
unreal sand
12 quads is rookie numbers, you gotta pump up those tabs
bleak quiver
i have a bunch of merchants cuz i had a bunch of default tabs as quad didnt exist, so i converted everything
unreal sand
I have a lot cause I used to play standard AND league. So I tried to manage my stash by buying more tabs and sorting.. It didnt work. And now I dont touch standard
The amount of remove only tabs I got.. sheesh
o7 I salute your hoard
twin arch
how do i "import item data" to trade site
unreal sand
how do i "import item data" to trade site
Can you do that? If so I have been missing out 
elfin shale
Does anyone have a clip showing Summon Skeletons' dash attack?
Im assuming its just whirling blades
sage falcon
how do i "import item data" to trade site
ya dont
elfin shale
wdym
unreal sand
Steal... 
elfin shale
it has no life roll
plush gulch
I think I can finally quit the league but not sure yet
too lazy to do challenges
im gonna try pillar of eternity 2 or make a new divinity original sin 2 playthrough
🦆
elfin shale
im gonna try pillar of eternity 2 or make a new divinity original sin 2 playthro...
From PoE to PoE, genius
plush gulch
poe never leaves you
dim turtle
From poe to poe2 
plush gulch
in poe I can play as a salad
sleek barn
Does anyone have a clip showing Summon Skeletons' dash attack?
it is like a shield charge
sage falcon
in poe I can play as a salad
squints eyes
unreal sand
in poe I can play as a salad
that's clearly cabbage
plush gulch
squints eyes
this is poe related
dim turtle
in poe I can play as a salad
Is this what aliens look like
elfin shale
it is like a shield charge
Oh it stops on colliding? nice
plush gulch
Is this what aliens look like
that's one race in the game called divinity or something where they have bodily carastetic akin to a god or something, they can't use helmet but have more powerful perks
here it's like a nature one
sleek barn
I too wish to be one with nature
plush gulch
well im sure there is mud in front of your house
go play
im joking
nature is good
dim turtle
that's one race in the game called divinity or something where they have bodily ...
Hey i have node i can click for no helmet 1 point away 
plush gulch
take it
sleek barn
well im sure there is mud in front of your house
instructions unclear face in mud
dim turtle
I could maybe work with it ngl its prolly meme but doable
elfin shale
Dark Pact on skeletons is kinda gas actually
sleek barn
kinda funny but where do you get fortify
elfin shale
Yoooo you can actually increase the number of chains on dark pact
elfin shale
kinda funny but where do you get fortify
I wasj ust gonna ignore it
sleek barn
yeah not enough chains for greater chain though
elfin shale
cuz you just build HP on the skeletons
sleek barn
it was better with awakened chain
elfin shale
Oh hey the boys can inflict wither for me too
sleek barn
elfin shale
this looks dogshit
elfin shale
Please tell me you just took this off ninja
loud geyser
yooo my first forbidden drop :D
elfin shale
identify it 
dim turtle
id or no id
loud geyser
depress
dim turtle
I made 80d id'ing ff
elfin shale
funny one
dim turtle
And decided to leave the casino while up
dim turtle
Better than 5c not selling for days 
lean urchin
you dont, you got loot each time you filled the bars
uncut sun
It pre drops the loot?
lean urchin
each time the bars fill.
uncut sun
That’s ass
dim turtle
Also doesnt drop deli orbs
twin arch
it has no life roll
Corrupting items can give them implicits
One of those 20-some implicits is max life
grave kelp
Give yourself to the darkness
short prairie
how do i exclude beasts again?
id v|k m|al, f|cic c|ul, f|s, f|n, f|le m|ld h|d bra|l pla| cy|c ti|l cru|id w|c v|cic m|c l|f a
like i have this regex
but adding ! doesnt work
lean urchin
! before them
short prairie
before every single one?
lean urchin
!id v|k m|al, f|cic c|ul, f|s, f|n, f|le m|ld h|d bra|l pla| cy|c ti|l cru|id w|c v|cic m|c l|f a
lean urchin
are u sure this even works
short prairie
lean urchin
try in qoutes?
"!id v|k m|al, f|cic c|ul, f|s, f|n, f|le m|ld h|d bra|l pla| cy|c ti|l cru|id w|c v|cic m|c l|f a"
short prairie
"!id v|k m|al, f|cic c|ul, f|s, f|n, f|le m|ld h|d bra|l pla| cy|c ti|l cru|id w...
nope.
lean urchin
tried to just filter one beast?
to just see if it works, or its meant to be used in altar
sage falcon
how did jungle ryan die in the gauntlet anyway
i guess i can just scrub back the vod
but poe-racing had rip clips and i dont think the poe.ninja leaderboard does
lean urchin
@short prairie works for me
thats the hiding one
nvm i was in crafts 
nah it works
try removing last letter and add it
short prairie
id v|k m|al, f|cic c|ul, f|s, f|n, f|le m|ld h|d bra|l pla| cy|c ti|l cru|id w|c v|cic m|c l|f a
edit this one and make it exlcude them
plush gulch
do you think regex will be passed on unto your grand children
loud geyser
LOL i got lucky again ^^
short prairie
im highlighting the 1c beasts rn
limpid prairie
LOL i got lucky again ^^
is the divine rate better?
proper zephyr
Whats the best way to grind towards runegraphs?. I want the minion rune graph and +1 chain
lean urchin
ok the excluision doesnt work
use the code for bad beasts.
cic c is imprimt beast, that is not a 1c beast
slender elbow
LOL i got lucky again ^^
i got it 2 maps it a row earlier
cobalt blade
exclusion does work btw in the beast searching you just have to put an ! before each beast
so its a pita to setup the regex for
lean urchin
sounds much easier to just include which one u dont want
loud geyser
i got it 2 maps it a row earlier
im just glad i can farm this shit with rf
cobalt blade
but it also just hides everything other than what your earching for when u do that
its cursed
quick example
cobalt blade
well ye
grizzled lily
why is farrul lowkey cute
lean urchin
big cat
cobalt blade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172663913725308971/1494854426551390330/P...
thats how they hook you
never stop clicking
atomic crane
i was always scared to gamba lmao
cobalt blade
slate compass
hows the build treating you jus
slate compass
budget = mageblood got it
surreal mulch
i was always scared to gamba lmao
never gamble
limpid prairie
at this point the real end game belt is the resonating massive belt
slate compass
echoin
slate compass
just be pathfinder no need for mageblood 😉
slow sonnet
Goddamn Tempest Shield imbued with Hextouch went through the roof
surreal mulch
at this point the real end game belt is the resonating massive belt
yeah for flicker
atomic crane
i didnt like frost blink
slow sonnet
I bought a 20% qual one early league for nothing and now 20% qual is 100 divs
slate compass
O prob with imbue
slow sonnet
Ye
cobalt blade
at this point the real end game belt is the resonating massive belt
real endgame belt is accel massive
Or accel impen
:3
surreal mulch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172663913725308971/1494854426551390330/P...
how is your build bladefall golems and reap simultaneously
cobalt blade
can't give up speeed
slate compass
man no one wants to buy my 102 d mageblood to gamba 🙁
surreal mulch
that's like three different builds
cobalt blade
how is your build bladefall golems and reap simultaneously
elementalist golem stacking primordial bond
reap and bladefall deal phys to scale with heralds they have herald of the hive ring
surreal mulch
oh
cobalt blade
Thats all perfectly reasonable lmao
surreal mulch
for some reason I thought bladefall can't do heralds
also why reap can't you do like lancing steel?
or whatever the fuck
the spray thing
cobalt blade
Thats a wand
surreal mulch
oh
cobalt blade
you can't lancing steel with a wand
Tho idk why their running bladefall either ek seems better unless its thrartus bladefall and they can sustain it for automating stuff
or automating clear
In which case fair enough
slender elbow
why are there so few interactions with savage hits
gritty garnet
what are you trying to get out of it
surreal mulch
because you either take 1% damage in this game or you die
rancid sluice
theres nothing of value out of simu's other than the high end voices right? like none of the mego or splits are worth anything?
surreal mulch
primordial bond megalomaniac is like 25 div
rancid sluice
ah ok so that one is still bucks
rancid sluice
just wondering whats worth IDing. ty
surreal mulch
no
cobalt blade
theres nothing of value out of simu's other than the high end voices right? like...
is str int split not worth anything?
or int mana int es
rancid sluice
kinda rough that hunting good voices theres really not much else currency coming in but oh well. enough essences to choke a donkey
ill have to look them up ill check
cobalt blade
str int usually the best one
Also maybe str life for str stackers or str acc but they tend to be lower
surreal mulch
kinda rough that hunting good voices theres really not much else currency coming...
you don't hunt them you sell them to the masses
surreal mulch
no
onyx adder
lol i was afraid of ubers
Cortex is by far the easiest uber if u dont get some random aoe turbo added ele shit
surreal mulch
theyre objectively worthless to id over selling even if you account for 1p existing
even worse if you discount it
onyx adder
Well done but the next few will likely be a lil harder
surreal mulch
yeah
limpid prairie
Cortex is by far the easiest uber if u dont get some random aoe turbo added ele ...
Tell me which one can kill me
I want to limit test
surreal mulch
actually lemme go recalculate maybe the prices changed
onyx adder
Exarch sirus and fear are considered the hardest ubers, i would suggest
rancid sluice
3k c rn ok i see heh
surreal mulch
I still can't remember the names of the 3 new pinnacles
onyx adder
Fear dread neglect
Fear is the minotaur with the giant fire balls
Dread is the roses
Neglect is the laser statues
cobalt blade
Exarch sirus and fear are considered the hardest ubers, i would suggest
i feel like exarchs difficulty comes from people not understanding mino enrage in ball phase or that grates spread to tiles next to them
once you can keep a rough mental track of grates its not too bad
and yknow keeping mino not enraged by keeping him close to you
dread is the buggy as shit one on uber
where he just decides to stand still for 20 seconds after phasing him
onyx adder
Personally exarchs difficulty comes from the fact that a) im an idiot potato ball magnet
cobalt blade
understandable
onyx adder
And b) i play a lot of elementalist
cobalt blade
hes trivial and his difficulty comes from spawning the other 2 bosses but they don't get their arena specific attacks
Otherwise everything dread does is extremely telegraphed
surreal mulch
and yknow keeping mino not enraged by keeping him close to you
isnt exarch mino just a dps check
cobalt blade
nah he enrages if you run too far
surreal mulch
you have to kill him before the first balls come
cobalt blade
He does no dmg if you keep him close the whole time
surreal mulch
oh
cobalt blade
albiet somewhat skillfully difficult to do ball phase in the small distance you have to play with but decoy totems or smth can taunt him to let you dodge further out
but like theres times youll try dodge mino enrage him and make the fight harder lol
limpid prairie
Alright
i may have died 3 times but it was ok
Mostly i coudnt dodge the ring phase well not enough MS
rancid sluice
man the es on kill mod on cinderswallow really puts in work
maybe not if you have 20k but doing well for me
limpid prairie
Noooo come back and ask me for the build goblin :,( I so wanted someone to look at my PoB XD
lean urchin
goblin 
lean urchin
short answer no
surreal mulch
actually lemme go recalculate maybe the prices changed
yeah no despite 1p price going up its still giga not worth
youre losing 1 div with every id
oh wait no i counted that wrong one sec...
fuck... no you actually gain 1 div...
the burden of knowledge
still if you discount the chance of getting 1p then yeah its not worth
something about outlier elimination
rancid sluice
id be happy with a couple 3p, 1s are just whatever. that being said theres probably better ways to come up with curreency and just buy them. 140d each
surreal mulch
getting a 3p or 1p combined is one in 33 if youre wondering
obv its not that simple just so you know the odds
rancid sluice
thats a lot of voices
surreal mulch
i mean simu IS a pretty good farming strat i think
almost no setup too
can second monitor if youre tanky enough
cobalt blade
maybe not if you have 20k but doing well for me
its % based ES its just as good if not better the higher ur ES is lol
rancid sluice
ive got to pay attention to the last 2 or 3 waves and thats about it. ive run 10 or so and ive died once to getting stuck on a damn rock
rancid sluice
its % based ES its just as good if not better the higher ur ES is lol
ah yeah you're right
unreal sand
maybe not if you have 20k but doing well for me
why would 20K make a difference?
oh I was far up in time, chat scrolled past my client xD nvm
surreal mulch
basically translating this to poe you have to also account for how many of them are you willing to actually farm and the odds of you burning out before you get anything
surreal mulch
or like the odds of you spending all your divs buying fucking belts without getting anything whatsoever
proper zephyr
How does witch deal with physical damage
surreal mulch
good question
rancid sluice
this is kind of where i have trouble in the game still is moving up into better strats have spent serious time on decks and boxes this league kind of fishing around for what i can stand and is more lucrative
surreal mulch
i think armor is basically your only option
or going left and taking endurance charges
surreal mulch
this is kind of where i have trouble in the game still is moving up into better ...
harvest is getting increasingly more profitable in terms of divs/h as the league goes on for some reason
thick goblet
How does witch deal with physical damage
prosperos, determ, energised armour, dawnbreaker setup is pretty dang strong in ssf if you can sacrifice the ring and reservation
surreal mulch
i thought it would stop but no
thick goblet
it's 30k unconditional armour
rancid sluice
ive not yet tried harvest. the initial league killed me lol i havent really been back since (i know its way different now)
surreal mulch
i need to do other astrolabes for challenges but the way harvest prices are going i keep being tempted to go back to harvest
cobalt blade
How does witch deal with physical damage
kinda depends on wut ascend and build
but block is usually good enough phys mit on witch if you have decent raw pool
tacit crow
proper zephyr
prosperos, determ, energised armour, dawnbreaker setup is pretty dang strong in ...
I have basically all my resist at 150% because of army of darkness and purity of elemnts
I am only at tier 1 maps
but this 4.5k phy max hit is killing me\
rancid sluice
stack armour/life, end charges even with enduring composure, recover on block shield. its multiple layers. being res capped is only the beginning for all builds
steel light
after 4 days of grind 
surreal mulch
I have basically all my resist at 150% because of army of darkness and purity of...
consider dropping purity. also get bone barrier
it should be enough?
rancid sluice
yeah bone barrier goes hard
surreal mulch
also dont worry about still dying to big phys hits occasionally thats normal
youre supposed to dodge those anyways
like namharim
rancid sluice
sand stance maybe too def seen that early on
steel light
anyway for him to convert physical dmg taken to elemental?
full fossil
whats a good bosser for 30d {tryna help a buddy} hes got a mapper just wants smth for bossing
cobalt blade
just eldritch implicits but if their in t1 maps they dont rly have that in ssf
surreal mulch
whats a good bosser for 30d {tryna help a buddy} hes got a mapper just wants smt...
theres a lot of options
ask for more requirements
cobalt blade
whats a good bosser for 30d {tryna help a buddy} hes got a mapper just wants smt...
could probably get a basic minion pact setup going/
well assuming they want a 1 shot boseer that has no resistances etc
lean urchin
she knows
cobalt blade
doesnt need to be bv
full fossil
they just want a good bosser with ok/good survival survival
so clear can be ass since yk
full fossil
doesnt need to be bv
doesnt want glass cannon either
surreal mulch
cyclone mjolner can uber
cobalt blade
oh if they want ok survival then probably want more than 30d
halcyon flicker
awora can do all content on a fairly low budget
surreal mulch
yeah poison minion covenant is big damage right out the box
halcyon flicker
yeah, i played lokati's build this league. first level 100 since the launch of the game
short prairie
my game crashed after i clicked alt to show loot
apparently my map had too much loot
full fossil
yeah, i played lokati's build this league. first level 100 since the launch of t...
can yotu give me al ink
cobalt blade
if they want ok survival my assumption is they want to tank atleast 1 or 2 exarch balls
halcyon flicker
can yotu give me al ink
full fossil
❤️
surreal mulch
you actually just build it like poison srs but swap in awora instead of srs
cobalt blade
and i dont think that build can do that on 30d
surreal mulch
its that shrimple
full fossil
if they want ok survival my *assumption* is they want to tank atleast 1 or 2 exa...
no one said anything about tanking balls
just means not onje shot constantly
cobalt blade
well ye but thats part of ok survival
full fossil
https://youtu.be/UyyjFRq3tGA
looks like this is a viewer's pob review not the build guide?
surreal mulch
https://youtu.be/UyyjFRq3tGA
kingmaker doesnt do anything because its got the range of 3 meters
cobalt blade
it gives you fortify
cobalt blade
it constantly gets tpd to you with meat shield so it stays close to you
its not 100% uptime but its pretty good
lean urchin
quality wtf man its 20 whetstones
slate compass
RUINED you didnt get above 20 qual
surreal mulch
you cant even put it on
lean urchin
he makes treasures he cant possess
surreal mulch
yeah its weird how theyre still red
cobalt blade
your just ignoring the requirements the items still have them
halcyon flicker
idk whats like the uptime on that with automation convocation
convocation casts like every 2 seconds
livid quarry
how much more dps
halcyon flicker
if i whirling blades through a map it leaves very few enemies behind
cobalt blade
they could prob be hidden but doesnt rly matter lo
halcyon flicker
not really a problem
surreal mulch
if i whirling blades through a map it leaves very few enemies behind
its not about the enemies its about being in range of kingshaker
halcyon flicker
there is only 1 downside of the build and that's that you have to summon before you run your map. thats it. it does literally everything else and its pretty tanky
which takes you like 8 seconds if you have 21 weapons
surreal mulch
thats hardly a downside
halcyon flicker
its not about the enemies its about being in range of kingshaker
i dunno, definitely felt a noticeable improvement after swapping from dyidan dawn to kingmaker
vocal tinsel
Crazy craft on ssf congrats
surreal mulch
i dunno, definitely felt a noticeable improvement after swapping from dyidan daw...
what. ag cant wear belts
do you mean dying breath?
surreal mulch
anyways im currently running sin eater and the victario shield because even if you splurge on a forest tiger it has pretty bad frenzy uptime
cobalt blade
u dont run it for frenzies though
surreal mulch
i have warlord for endurance
ive thought about removing warlord like 6 times and every time i cant justify it
rancid sluice
haste aura
cobalt blade
^
surreal mulch
he does so much shit
halcyon flicker
Playing with spectres has definitely been very different
surreal mulch
u dont run it for frenzies though
oh you mean the tigers
cobalt blade
ye
halcyon flicker
For example it taught me to only upgrade gear in town, never the hideout. Rip 32d
surreal mulch
i know im just saying that you still need frenzy charge source
surreal mulch
For example it taught me to only upgrade gear in town, never the hideout. Rip 32...
i am yet to lose a spectre
halcyon flicker
Don't ever dip below attribute requirements or stuff that changes levels of your spectres and it should be fine
I did a tree Respec and lost it all 
surreal mulch
you can pick them back up unless you have offerings automated
halcyon flicker
Sure did lol
cobalt blade
only if your in hideout
surreal mulch
oh
cobalt blade
if your in menagerie delve etc they just get deleted
halcyon flicker
At least I think. They weren't in my hideout. Just poofed
Apparently the same does not happen with AG
It is what it is
cobalt blade
ag stuff is just entirely tied to your char yeah
so no way to lose them
without mis click deleting items from equipping random shit on the floor but thats skill issue
halcyon flicker
yeah i just unbind lol
surreal mulch
you can lose items if youre doing one handed weapons
halcyon flicker
it never dies on me so
surreal mulch
sometimes it deletes shield instead of replacing weapon
halcyon flicker
580% ms with withering step 
cant wait to finish this build up and get tattoos and stuff
surreal mulch
i realised that with spiritual command i can drop faster attacks on my shield charge
or replace it with an imbue i guess
halcyon flicker
i asked global 1 how to get tattoos which was a big mistake
surreal mulch
tattoos are so expensive its not even funny
halcyon flicker
I got told mexican prisons lol
tranquil umbra
and str for leech (first ever in history)
surreal mulch
i currently have my whole tree tatted up but theyre mostly the low cost ones
also i have negative 120 strength
cobalt blade
i asked global 1 how to get tattoos which was a big mistake
shipping or just buy them from trade because fuck kingsmarch
halcyon flicker
i think the ms ones are 1.5div or something
halcyon flicker
im not looking forward to crafting/buying the ring I need
iolite ring with curse with despair on hit and other good stats, gonna break the bank
surreal mulch
buy the worm
cobalt blade
i have 8 suppress tats and all my int tattooed to inc es/lightning res in blue nightmare socket
oh and some fire res tats i guess for attack block
surreal mulch
iolite ring with curse with despair on hit and other good stats, gonna break the...
why iolite
halcyon flicker
TR
surreal mulch
idk what that is
halcyon flicker
toxic rain
surreal mulch
oh its a diff build
tranquil umbra
ok but like
halcyon flicker
yeah this is a lab runner
surreal mulch
i was confused i thought for a sec you were scaling envy effect with sundered will or some shit
halcyon flicker
im wondering what the best course of action is to create that ring. its a 1/10 to hit the right hunter mod, so im thinking reforge caster instead
and then just hope you get some good suffixes, annul and pray
halcyon flicker
not using helical
not sure if a higher rolled chaos damage roll outperforms the implicit on an iolite
ebon tendon
u can esence for one mod u want maybe and another suff then reforge castr
halcyon flicker
there isnt much else you can get on rings that helps with TR
attack speed i suppose maybe
halcyon flicker
u can esence for one mod u want maybe and another suff then reforge castr
not a bad idea
cobalt blade
not sure if a higher rolled chaos damage roll outperforms the implicit on an iol...
with essence chaos dmg and suffix qual on the helical it goes to 57
tranquil umbra
u can esence for one mod u want maybe and another suff then reforge castr
chaos damage is a suffix anyway
so you would be looking for essence mod + another mod you want
then reforge caster and pray you hit despair and not ele weakness
ebon tendon
yea
cobalt blade
is it just despair btw you need from the hunter influ
cos you could go fractured despair on hit from delve
tranquil umbra
correct
cobalt blade
i mean that theres a delve mod for curse on hit
and you can fracture that
recomb to helical fracture and mist would probably be the optimal ring
hard cliff
Good evening wraeclast
cobalt blade
(tho youd need to get unfractured to recomb)
halcyon flicker
I guess there's no way around it and i should learn about recombinators
tranquil umbra
can you not transfer fractured mods
halcyon flicker
I have never used em
tranquil umbra
I was sure you could
halcyon flicker
can you just not recombine or does it just never transfer the fracture
cobalt blade
never transfers
tranquil umbra
you can't transfer it
halcyon flicker
because if its the latter that sounds like tech
cobalt blade
its not counted as a mod
if it cant appear on the base
iirc
fracture ones are weird though so im not 100% sure
halcyon flicker
I might look into crafting the god rings at some point
First I need to make back the 300 div I invested into this character so far lol
the second ring is just a standard res + life ring with chaos damage, nothing fancy
some int
opaque sphinx
nerds
cobalt blade
nou
halcyon flicker
I feel like recombs is where the big money is
cobalt blade
there are some extremely high value crafts yeah its like top 4 or 5 things to do for currency lol
halcyon flicker
so what do you do do you just make 2 rings with different mod pools, recombine and pray the good mods carry over?
and on the right base
opaque sphinx
no
tranquil umbra
you can do advanced technology such as blocking
halcyon flicker
can you use crafted mods?
tranquil umbra
yeah
halcyon flicker
thats big then yeah
opaque sphinx
basic recomb is just spam for prefix 1,2,3
and combine 1+2 with 1+3 or 2+3
till u hit 1+2+3
cobalt blade
in the case of rings youd use a bone ring and use the exclusive mods from a bone ring delve curse mod to get higher recomb odds
halcyon flicker
so youd essentially have 2 mana rolls on both rings, and if you recombine it cannot pick mana again
cobalt blade
to move a delve mod
tranquil umbra
so youd essentially have 2 mana rolls on both rings, and if you recombine it can...
ok I said it wrong
marble flicker
I have accidentally vendored my amulet with +1 all skill, +1 fire skill and damage over time that I have been recombining the whole day yesterday.
that's it for me this league. I don't want to do another 10k alt spamming getting the mods on 30 turquoise amulet for recombining
tranquil umbra
there are things called exclusive modifiers
cobalt blade
o7
opaque sphinx
I have accidentally vendored my amulet with +1 all skill, +1 fire skill and dama...
y not buy
tranquil umbra
as Naca said the mods on a bone ring are exclusive to that base
so if you have a bone ring with only those mods + delve mod
halcyon flicker
then it will always pick bone as the base?
opaque sphinx
nope
cobalt blade
no itll 50/50 base boen ring mods cant appear on helical so it guarantees transfer
look up non native recombing its some funky shit
tranquil umbra
so if you have a bone ring with only those mods + delve mod
then the delve mod is GUARANTEED to carry over if the helical does not have any suffixes
cobalt blade
you will have to yolo the 1/4 fracture afer that though
opaque sphinx
kek those shitty gloves i made for khailby finally sold
cobalt blade
no way to guarantee save failed fracture there afaik
tranquil umbra
kek those shitty gloves i made for khailby finally sold
I sold my old boots for 75d today
opaque sphinx
yuge
opaque sphinx
lmao
tranquil umbra
because some idiot listed it for 13d when I was searching
and all the others were like 130d
opaque sphinx
snoiped
heady cliff
ded leg
tranquil umbra
eh it's just a hyper specific combination
bleak quiver
wdf is this
ag bis
bleak quiver
ag of smiting
tranquil umbra
Animated Guardian
you pair that shit with transfusion and watch your guardian move at mach Fuck
bleak quiver
and attack fast as fuck
bleak quiver
hit the 18
bleak quiver
this is not better than the normal one for campaign
you need like, 80ms for it to be
surreal mulch
mb enkindle quicksilver...
tranquil umbra
you need like, 80ms for it to be
which soul eater gives
aka bis for ag
transfusion is a really silly support
surreal mulch
no i was implying you put them on yourself for campaign
bleak quiver
it gives 70 ms with enkindle
nocturne maple
soul eater doesn't give ms btw
grand flint
damn doubling scarabs went up
surreal mulch
apparently victarios flight gives 3 less action speed max roll and is way cheaper
unreal sand
idk why I thought ms
cause movement skill go ham? 😄
tranquil umbra
TRUE
surreal mulch
idk why I thought ms
its really funny when you fight a soul eater mob and its moving slow as fuck until it reaches a target and then its like turbo speed swinging
bleak quiver
actually, i was very wrong with my estimative
its still worse with max silver and quicksilver
you need a lot of ms for it to beat regular seven league
cobalt blade
from what i could tell from my own math before levelling alt earlier this league
with overcorrupted seven leagues its never better to run action speed ones
18% action speed over corrupt is just less valuable than 61 ms
(same for the more reasonable ones)
bleak quiver
with max quicksilver, max silver flask and frenzies, a 18% is still 10% less ms than not overcorrupted one
that dsnt account for shield charge tho, then its 100% better
surreal mulch
i wonder why they dont let you talk to navali anymore
cobalt blade
you arent taking into account haste btw
surreal mulch
the game size is so fuckign huge i bet they dont delete old league voicelines
bleak quiver
oh, true
surreal mulch
reliquarian flicker is peak this league
cobalt blade
with haste i think 15% was marginally better than 50% but overcorrupt it was always ms
iirc
bleak quiver
8% worse still, but shield charge bonus clears
surreal mulch
not a good number for a brand new ascendancy
scion is always gonna be low dont worry about it
surreal mulch
its conceptually something less people are gonna play
halcyon flicker
scion at this point feels like a bottom tier character in a fighting game. it's there for you to style on your opponents but otherwise you'll spend 2 mirrors to make it feel like a 100d build
surreal mulch
Cuz she literally sucks <:UHM:891971918138314753>
nuhuh
halcyon flicker
aurabot aside, nothing is a better fit
surreal mulch
brass dome armor stacking
halcyon flicker
i fell for the jaytx bleed bow trap reliquarian this league
worst leaguestart ever
cobalt blade
scion at this point feels like a bottom tier character in a fighting game. it's ...
lolno
halcyon flicker
jack, the axe is kinda cool tho
unreal sand
i fell for the jaytx bleed bow trap reliquarian this league
who even is that?
stuck phoenix
truly an item with a reasonable supply for its demand
nocturne maple
the bleed bow guy
bleak quiver
the bleed bow reliquarian build is cool
halcyon flicker
someone who tries to make a build work every league but it really just doesn't hold up, admire the dedication but its still bad
cobalt blade
youll spend 2 mirrors to make a 2 mirror build that you cant rly compete with for other stuff minion pact being the sole exception
bleak quiver
not good, but cool
hard cliff
someone who tries to make a build work every league but it really just doesn't h...
Pohx
unreal sand
never heard of the guy 😮 but imma check out what he does
surreal mulch
i do think they picked some of the way weaker uniques this time tho
cobalt blade
armour stacker is still the raw highest dps thing in the game for sustained damage though even including minion pact
halcyon flicker
no worries, im sure we'll get a +50 max life kaoms heart next league
cobalt blade
i think jiquani might beat it atm
nah
bleak quiver
i do think they picked some of the way weaker uniques this time tho
they picked some okay ones, but they made them WORSE, shit that you would not use even if they gave everything the item had
opaque sphinx
really?
cobalt blade
molten strike nimis setup still destroys jiquanis
opaque sphinx
ah
halcyon flicker
ive heard some people used it with icycle mines
cobalt blade
and they got access to unholy trinity this league fixing one of the weakness's of armour stacker being resist
opaque sphinx
i wanna see a jiquani at the invest level of an armourstack tho tbh
halcyon flicker
but i have yet to see a build in action
opaque sphinx
think i saw a 3b dps setup
bleak quiver
icycle mines dsnt count
surreal mulch
what would be really fukin cool is if they made getting to jewellry display only take 6 points
bleak quiver
literally one shots anything with 0 links, 0 passives, can be any ascendancy at that point...
surreal mulch
so you have 2 points for a bloodline
making scion more flexible which is kinda the whole point
halcyon flicker
i think even if you got all 4 it'd feel very mid at best
but i'll take any buff at this point
surreal mulch
no not like all four
they specifically made the martial and caster have almost no synergy
cobalt blade
you would have to have access to all 4 though for that idea to work out
surreal mulch
so its not like youd be op if you take all four
halcyon flicker
yeah
cobalt blade
like the ex tra 2 points your spending are there
surreal mulch
i know
halcyon flicker
I do like the idea of having more interesting uniques in there, that arent just numbers. for example, sire of shards would be incredible
cobalt blade
I do like the idea of having more interesting uniques in there, that arent just ...
waiting for them to give us a good per stat item :)
halcyon flicker
bleed is also pretty okay I just dont like it on a bow lol
cobalt blade
(not cybils)
surreal mulch
scion has really awkward ascendancy costs in general
bleak quiver
i really hope they give her some UNIQUE uniques, not the bottom of the barrel shit
halcyon flicker
astramentis is probably the most useless on in there
not only are the stats low but ascendant does it way better
bleak quiver
the most useless is clicking it at the end of the lab instead of ascendant
cobalt blade
+60 stats atleast has usecases
cobalt blade
yes and you dont get 60 str int and dex from it
there are use cases you want all 3
like poised prism or tri stat stacking in general
slow sonnet
Just take all the ascendant attribute nodes
cobalt blade
yo pog - all your extra passive points and ascends
bleak quiver
this one i will stand by, there is no way to even pretend astramentis is good, its a 8 pointer
halcyon flicker
you can also start at a different point on the tree, making attribute acquirement even easier
surreal mulch
scion has really awkward ascendancy costs in general
imagine you go through first lab and the only thing you get is some attributes and one passive point
cobalt blade
the most useless is just prosperos since you can actually give reasons to use astramentis but not that
bleak quiver
the discussion for the worst one HAS to be one of the 8 pointers, simply cz they take 8 points
surreal mulch
a lot of other ascendancies let you drop like 10 nodes immediately
cobalt blade
the discussion for the worst one HAS to be one of the 8 pointers, simply cz they...
which prosperos is
halcyon flicker
I used to main scion and played caustic arrow, but nowadays there are many more sources of chaos damage making it irrelevant
slow sonnet
Are there reliquarian Forbiddens?
halcyon flicker
but back then chaos damage and dot were hard to come by