1┃general

[split maple]

imagine 2x anni light

oh wait no that would do nothing

[rocky glade]

Actually the 2h Keystone thing in PoE 2 is the one I wanted 1 to put into the game THE MOST NGL

[split maple]

okay what even is the payoff there beyond running svalinn on slammers

[rocky glade]

Shit would break the meta so fast

[rocky glade]

Maybe some builds can't handle double attribute requirements? Idk

[split maple]

does dmg per int stack if you had 2 jiquanis?

[vernal ravine]

howa works that way

[rocky glade]

I mean tripled*

https://poe2db.tw/us/Giants_Blood

[split maple]

supreme ostenation is in poe1

helps a tad

[rocky glade]

LMAOOO yeah they have to think of something else

[split maple]

like blunderbore is already example of such kinda downside there

and this league its kinda common rite 😄

[rocky glade]

Please GGG give me Giant's Blood in PoE 1

[cosmic raptor]

Ggg pls fix

[grizzled lily]

imagine glad

with that

finally usable

will there ever be a 4th ascendency to choose from in poe1 i wonder

we already have one character in poe2 wirh 4 ascendencies

[split maple]

idk if diluting ff pool is desirable

but like isnt 3 ascends per class + bloodline combos enough

[arctic rain]

as long as the ascendancies are interesting enough yes

[grizzled lily]

not really

like maybe if they woild get some reworks goin yes

then itll be enough

[split maple]

ngl i would prefer them fixing ass and trickster

to adding new stuff

[arctic rain]

why does trickster need fixing?

[grizzled lily]

cause its bad

whats trickster gimmick even

its a stat checker mostly

[split maple]

coz the only interesting part of ascend now is spellbreaker, everything else you can get elsewhere

[rocky glade]

Bloodlines already filled that niche

[grizzled lily]

i would love if they would rework some duelist asc nodes tbh

[split maple]

oh and charge dur for exsang/reap build

like if you aint utilizing one of these two techs its like dead ascend

[grizzled lily]

shadow as a class is

not good enough

[rocky glade]

Honestly Ass can just have a notable that gives him perma Diamond Shrine

[arctic rain]

before trickster gets reworked i think warden/ass/ascendant/saboteur should have reworks or new nodes

[grizzled lily]

saboteur is fine the way he is

assassin just got his rework

but theyre both bad still tbh

[split maple]

+1 sabo feels ok

[grizzled lily]

saboteur is cool has a nice gimmick

[rocky glade]

Trickster is such a funny Asc because he was reworked like 4 times

[arctic rain]

i never said sabo is bad

i just find sabo is uninteresting except triggerbots

[rocky glade]

And none of them really landed

[tough cove]

i mean the last trickster was great

[grizzled lily]

but assassin is just a bunch of nonsense put together into a poison build

[rocky glade]

Sabo is the go-to for mines and traps
Back then those were the meta

[arctic rain]

tbf the iteration before action speed nerf was gigastronk

[arctic rain]

yeah i agree but

they arent

[split maple]

Trickster just got overnerfed

[grizzled lily]

saboteur is cool

[tough cove]

arguably the best ascendancy in the game

[arctic rain]

anymore

[tough cove]

then like esm said got overnerfed

[split maple]

Not only as ascend but also as everything it needs

Like EE nerf, now int nerf

[grizzled lily]

i would love for them to rework some other ascendencies tbh, i think anything duelist thats not slayer needs to tinkering

[split maple]

Suppress nerfed too

[tough cove]

glad is fine

[grizzled lily]

champ is mediocre even with the gigabuffs

[arctic rain]

(ee got buffed via volatile but dont tell anyone)

[tough cove]

champ is unironically fine too

its just not as good as slayer

[split maple]

Whats the Max EE gets volatiled too?

[grizzled lily]

and glad is xdd bloodline abuser

[arctic rain]

i think 12

wait no

lemme check

[grizzled lily]

ee goes to 17 now

[tough cove]

assassin is the main ascendancy that needs help

[grizzled lily]

or smth

[tough cove]

(again)

[arctic rain]

17 goes pretty hard

[tough cove]

and ascendant

[split maple]

Ol Edge was 20% right? And even then tricky was 0dps until invest

[arctic rain]

i wouldnt say 0dps

[onyx adder]

W a r d e n

[arctic rain]

i did a 50div budget splitting steel and it sat around 10mil dps without dying

or 20mil

idk anymore

[split maple]

Sadge they killed steel

[tacit crow]

im in hell

[grizzled lily]

besides deadeye chieftain and elementalist i can prob see some buffs in 3.29

[onyx adder]

Reliquarian will get buffed

[grizzled lily]

u mean

reworked?

cause she always changes her ascendency points

league by league

[onyx adder]

If only because putting 19 random uniques into chatgpt and pasting the output into tree.xml would be better than current reliquarian

[arctic rain]

tbf reliquarian has some odd nodes imo

the choices are... very big in terms of power

[grizzled lily]

theyre random

[arctic rain]

some dude is choosing the nodes and they discuss it, so its not "random"

[split maple]

get me death rush reliquarian 3.29 and maybe i will try her

[grizzled lily]

they want her to be

not so random that youll find

bis one league

but half randommwhere they take off good synergies

[arctic rain]

reliquarian can be super nice if the choices were more equal in power, i feel like on reliquarian you instantly gravitate towards whatever has the smallest downside or can be played around

[onyx adder]

Theres a couple of narrow things u can still do with reliquarian

[arctic rain]

and the rest is w/e

[grizzled lily]

so youll check her out next league aswell

[split palm]

Don't forget to beastlocks corrupt

[onyx adder]

But regardless of the top end

[tacit crow]

vivid first...

[split palm]

Xd

Forgot to do it on a 10d base...

[onyx adder]

Someone had to physically sit there and go yep burden of truth lets strip off the interesting mods and all the power, people will click that for sure

[split palm]

-10d + whatever corrupt would have been worth

[grizzled lily]

idk i want scav back

that combo was so good for rf

[onyx adder]

I dont want scav back

Been there done that

[lament hearth]

20 more div to my mageblood

[grizzled lily]

anyways when dow e get teasers on poe2

[split maple]

crown of eyes reliquarian would be pretty

[onyx adder]

I just want them to realize reliquarian is operating with -1 ascendancy node and cant pick bloodlines and balance accordingly

[split palm]

Do cortex

It's like 50c to run

[lament hearth]

What’s that

[split palm]

Uber synth frag

50c to run

10% drop is 2d always

2% is 9d+

50% one can be whatever

From literally 10-20 mirrors

To 20c

[lament hearth]

My boss damage is not the best
I’m using CWS, unless the boss is as weak as trial master

[split palm]

Cortex is weak

But idk

[lament hearth]

Hmmm

[grizzled lily]

rathpit reliquarian would feed generations

[grizzled lily]

do beasts buddy

[onyx adder]

If he's cws he can just afk in ultomato for an hour i suppose

[split palm]

Reliq. With +2 minion is like 50d or more

[lament hearth]

Will check it out

[split palm]

Worst case - 50chaos

[arctic rain]

i wonder if they allow for it to stack

[split maple]

like just sit in inscr+cata ultis for 10 maps grush

[lament hearth]

Yeah been doing that farming inscribed ultimatums, that’s what got me here

[onyx adder]

I would click reliquarian if fuckin widowhail didnt get nerfed

[lament hearth]

Hmmm

[foggy elm]

oh baby it's juice time

[tranquil sedge]

found sage's alt account lole

[split palm]

You meant

The harvest siphoner

[tranquil sedge]

all hail harvest

glory be to harvest

[native abyss]

join the blight alliance today

[grizzled lily]

blight

xdd

in the grave

[split palm]

Not gonna lie

[tranquil sedge]

my opinion of the poe subreddit mods is still that they're overall pepega, but the flairs they implemented are undeniably fun

alch and go industries ftw

[split palm]

I pray poo 2 gets harvest and/or delve in 0.5

Hell, make them into one, where the juice is just the ore... If we are going as far as recycling content

[foggy elm]

9% more lol

[tranquil sedge]

the flairs

maybe i should join the crop harvesting bureau

[haughty dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[rose quail]

What is this? Ngl looks great

[tranquil sedge]

the flairs on r/pathofexile

one of the few things the mods there actually did a good job with

[rose quail]

Credit where credit is due

[tranquil sedge]

ye

[tranquil sedge]

if it is fun then that's good

but at the same time, like

if they fuck up another league, i can watch their sub bitch about it again

and it'll be 🍿 funnnn

[rocky glade]

Guys

I want Metamorph back into the game

[tranquil sedge]

honestly their game is just drama fuel, like your favorite show on netflix or something
every season something funny to watch

[rocky glade]

[split palm]

I really liked the alva and abyss reworks tbh... At least generally speaking

[rocky glade]

Give me back my loot pinata

[tranquil sedge]

justice for tane

i liked metamorph too

[split palm]

Like the poo2 abyss I would prefer over the poe abyss ANY FUCKING DAY OF THE YEAR

[tranquil sedge]

tho from wat i understood torchlite infinite copied meta this league

[rocky glade]

No. They actually did something more original this round

[split maple]

I don't think I am ever leaving CCCP

[rocky glade]

Its uh
Kinda like 6 vats with different types of rewards that you can juiced in

[gentle chasm]

kinda but the way the mechanic works is different

[tacit crow]

i love jewels

[tranquil sedge]

i c

[tacit crow]

i love magic jewels

i love synth magic jewels

[split palm]

What happened

Deadge?

[tacit crow]

NOTHING

[split palm]

Lmao

[tacit crow]

7 hours in

4 jewels

[split palm]

Kafka

[tacit crow]

affixes done

[split palm]

Be happy

[split maple]

Try foulborn augs maybe

[split palm]

It's not

Clusters

With synth

[split maple]

Tho last league I was happy if i finished rolling 1 jewel a day

[tacit crow]

i need to beastlock vaal these

give me clusters

instead

[split palm]

Even frac clusters are PURE FUCKING AIDS

[split palm]

1.5d per click

Not bad

[grizzled lily]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-pigeon-walk-doctor-pigeon-pigeon-walk-gif-18363920270242659686

[low lava]

i guess, things sold.

2 pages.

[split palm]

Gimme some

Or rather

Give them to sans

So she can make my boots...

[low lava]

What boots is being made ?

already given a handful to Sans 😂

[arctic rain]

omg, is that u christoffer? im ur long lost brother

[split palm]

It's bleak

[arctic rain]

fack, wasted scarabs cause i forgor my astroklabe

[split palm]

T1 MS
Endu on kill
Elevated +1 max endurance
Elevated spectre
T1 res
T1 regen

[low lava]

😂

[split palm]

Is like what I really want

But that is delusional hopium

[cosmic raptor]

Shika noob

[limpid prairie]

Endu on kill exists on boots?

[short prairie]

Rings

[low lava]

Ohw, that reminds me of the Endurance + elusive boot craft.

[short prairie]

Boots too ig

[frigid wedge]

yes

[low lava]

ye

[frigid wedge]

warlord boots

Chris what are those for

[foggy elm]

the hell do I even choose

[frigid wedge]

yellow

[low lava]

didnt mean to paste that in here

😂

was for mate

[foggy elm]

5 worms tho

[tough cove]

yellow is like <3k per div

blue is 12k per div

[limpid prairie]

price is
yellow>blue>purple

[frigid wedge]

always yellow :3

[split maple]

its worms tho

[tough cove]

right now you bascially always choose yellow

[split maple]

what trade doesnt like fancy lifeforce?

[tough cove]

unless your getting 5x blue to yellow

[foggy elm]

even when purple might give like 5 times the lifeforce?

[tough cove]

purple is like 15k per div

so you need over 5x to beat yellow

[hardy heath]

[frigid wedge]

most of my gear rn is prettyyyyy shhit

[short prairie]

Are these just for speed

[frigid wedge]

yes

[short prairie]

[low lava]

Talk about it, mine so shet. its hiding from me 😂

[frigid wedge]

i have a much worse pair i believe

[prime hill]

hello guys I have arrived to get ragebaited again

[frigid wedge]

man i dont even have elevated mods on mine how fuckin budget were these

jeez

[low lava]

_>

[cosmic raptor]

[hardy heath]

i still need to divine the onslaught movement/attackspeed

but thats for later

[frigid wedge]

i remember my gear pieces being cheap and sub par but like

https://tenor.com/view/maomao-disgusted-apothecary-maomao-anime-disgust-the-apothecary-diaries-apothecary-diaries-gif-277569285267881835

[hardy heath]

this were my boots before

just couldnt swap to ancestral vision with those

[frigid wedge]

i need to remake my rare pieces

[loud geyser]

finally got past the lazy and tried rf

[frigid wedge]

all of them

[loud geyser]

not disappointed so far

[hardy heath]

well not unless i make it a lot more painfull for myself

[spice pecan]

so you got past the lazy and then embraced it

[low lava]

i just love we can stack the two onslaught mods, and hit 25% 😂

[frigid wedge]

and still get it from the cinderswallow anyway

[hardy heath]

ye i can kindof ignore the onslaught % since i get it from flask anyway

[loud geyser]

the lazy here was not logging in

everytime i did i would just close the game after 2 mins

[low lava]

Yeah, i wanted to use the flask spot for something else.

[frigid wedge]

i need to make this vls pob

[short prairie]

What’s with the 99 es

[hardy heath]

im pathfinder so i actualy benefit from flasks a good bit

[loud geyser]

also this looks awesome asf

[hardy heath]

its nice qol

[frigid wedge]

my entire life recovery other than regen is from my cinderswallow

[frigid wedge]

its called me being as cheap as humanly possible

all my rares are disgusting and terrible

[split palm]

Unless boss

[opal ingot]

yellow

[short prairie]

All my starter gears are multimods

[low lava]

Damn. I mean its a nice % regen on kill

[frigid wedge]

i bought enough currency worth of gear to make build comfortable to play and havent bought ANYTHING since

i make a rarity ring bc esm wanted me to test a strat with rarity

[split palm]

My rares are very nice...

[spice pecan]

this is usually where i stop too

[frigid wedge]

thats about it

[low lava]

Still da fishing :3 ?

[frigid wedge]

ye

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/ginger-root-hook-dance-fishing-mahjong-room-gif-25514520

Noice!

[split palm]

I have been putting a lot of thought into crafting them nicely

[opal ingot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wvp_6iqvCuVvL0mm1H6N5S8WRLqznbUT/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=110633956119650061541&rtpof=true&sd=true

you can use this to help you decide which is better. make a copy

in addition, know that corpse plots are like equivalent to 4 t3's

[frigid wedge]

probably gonna make a vls deadeye and then might come back and replace my rares

[split palm]

(I have a fucking stun recovery on my helmet)

[low lava]

vls ?

[short prairie]

Vaal lightning strike

[split palm]

Vertical Launch System

Oh

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/come-backer-hose-drink-bad-chair-explode-fall-off-gif-16787874

[split palm]

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[short prairie]

A dead archetype

Vaal spam

[split palm]

Kinda funny because that's EXACTLY how VLS works

[short prairie]

Died 3.26

Kingsmarch infinite vls spam gone

[spice pecan]

didnt lance leaguestart vaal BV spam this leg

[split maple]

its viable again

[spice pecan]

but yeah literal infinite VLS gone

o?

[split maple]

with vaal temptation + 2x alva flask

[low lava]

[short prairie]

[split maple]

idk if anyone is doing it actually tho

[short prairie]

That’s so inconvenient

[spice pecan]

oh wait i think i saw like dreamcore doing it early ish in the league

i saw someone do it and they said the damage wasn't very good

[short prairie]

Unless you generate flask charges in boss rooms

Like pf

With tides

[low lava]

Forking hell, my shoulder is busted after today
Stupid horse.

[split maple]

its kinda annoying to get enough % incr on build from what i saw eri cooking

[mental nymph]

@split palm this popped off in my feed
https://x.com/i/status/2039732615369154986

貓鯨 (@Nekojira)

🍎

X · Apr 2, 2026, 3:52 PM

[split maple]

prolly fixable tho

[spice pecan]

isn't %incr damage free with clusters

[split maple]

yea its tides build

[short prairie]

3.25 you literally just click a timeless jewel notable get soul regen and then enchant kingsmarch vaal skills have no cd

[frigid wedge]

new support lets u do

[split maple]

or maybe we had flat issue 🤔 eri help i cant remember for shit

[spice pecan]

and you slap on a squire and ggez

[split palm]

Rossi pog

[mental nymph]

Indeed

[split palm]

But... I may change my pfp to pramanix alter, really like her artwork

[mental nymph]

We were talking yesterday about axe crafting with recombs @short prairie

[low lava]

Me just thinking, shit aint gonna project her from rain 😂

[foggy elm]

jesus christ

[mental nymph]

How harder would it be to hit one with culling against Bleeding Enemies

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/its-jason-bourne-gif-25127621

[foggy elm]

the juice I get from like 5-6 astrolabes in one

[frigid wedge]

icl im probably just gonna play around hateforge instead of alva flasks, might grab 1 for Vaal discipline and yoink pf flask gen

[mental nymph]

Pog ,how many maps

[split palm]

Blue juice is nice ngl

Reroll astros into breach

[foggy elm]

6 I think?

[mental nymph]

Ohhh

[split palm]

Jesus fucking christ

[mental nymph]

50+ pack size ?

Harvest boss scarab?

[split palm]

That's like 40d?

[foggy elm]

got all T2 plus 23% chance for upgrade to T3

[mental nymph]

Originator maps ?

[final owl]

averaging over 10k yellow a map is pretty nice work

[foggy elm]

I'm running 50+ pack size originators yeah

[split palm]

Super fast strat too

[mental nymph]

Harvest boss scarab as well?

[foggy elm]

yeah you just rush the harvest, enter mirage, do mirage harvest and get out

[split palm]

4d per map with very low invest is insane

[frigid wedge]

uh, original one idk what issue was, if i make manastacker one like i kinda wanna, flat is the biggest non issue ever w cloak+ manastorm+ option for flat helm

[foggy elm]

no 1 doubling 2 monstrous lineage 2 atziri scarab

[final owl]

what scarabs? i mean thats more or less what i already do

[mental nymph]

Aight thx

[final owl]

atziri. interastin

[mental nymph]

Ikr

That's an average 80d per hour

[foggy elm]

this was just getting insanely lucky with the astrolabe rolls, usually I get like 10-15k yellow per astrolabe roughly

[mental nymph]

If it's consistent

[low lava]

Just before i start some stupid ass craft.
This mod does work on TS ya ?

since its a projectile.

[split maple]

"Projectile behaviors: Primary projectiles can Split, Pierce, and Return, they cannot Fork or Chain due to Pierce's priority. Secondary projectiles can Pierce, Fork, or Chain.
Secondary projectiles may fail to Fork if not created inside or very near to an enemy." https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Tornado_Shot

[final owl]

really? i feel like i tend to hit around 40-50k yellow per astrolabe which is i guess avg around 8-9k per map

[frigid wedge]

Projectile behaviors: Primary projectiles can Split, Pierce, and Return, they cannot Fork or Chain due to Pierce's priority. Secondary projectiles can Pierce, Fork, or Chain.
Secondary projectiles may fail to Fork if not created inside or very near to an enemy.[1]

[mental nymph]

That's nice as well

[frigid wedge]

fork kinda ass for tshit

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-dammit-darn-gif-20161619

[foggy elm]

are you doing the insane pack size originators? I'm only doing ~50 because they're so much cheaper

[frigid wedge]

chris what u craftin

[steep sphinx]

still no lvl 100 </3

[low lava]

Ohmm..
Str stacking TS on jugg. 😂

[final owl]

i've varied. i mostly just use 40+ 8 mod corrupted and do high pack size 16.5 for last two maps currently.

[frigid wedge]

at least get 95, 95 aint that hard

[frigid wedge]

that's fine, where is this mod even from

[pulsar ice]

fuck the reservation, 9th time I get it instead of the minion damage which is two times less rare

[split maple]

once you are 97, 95 feels easy. once you are 99, 97 feels easy... once you are 100

[steep sphinx]

the necro is lvl 95

[mental nymph]

You can sell

[pulsar ice]

yeah, will do that

[split palm]

By the way sans, I can occasionally log in in the week, if need be

[low lava]

Crusader bow.
Not a needed mod, just a nice to have. So i can fit in more "support gems"
There is also the increased dmg mod from shaper.

[frigid wedge]

only ONE tho

[final owl]

I am self rolling the 16.5s though. i was better about that doing juicey breach, currently am.. pretty lazy

[frigid wedge]

kk

[low lava]

But if i dont need the influence mod, i can just do normal str stack bow.

[frigid wedge]

i usually plateau at 95

[steep sphinx]

I got bored of all the builds I've tried so far, none rlly caught my eye

[limpid prairie]

try ward loop

[foggy elm]

been pushing HRoC as much as I reasonably can and it's been super comfy

[split maple]

there isnt some magic trick in pob too see how much recoup would do for me, is there?

need to napkin math

[frigid wedge]

shaper gets chain?

[foggy elm]

you don't give a shit about map mods really, only phys reflect is annoying before you craft a reflect immune ring and even then you can still run it, your relics will just die occasionally if you're not constantly killing

[frigid wedge]

Chris are you crit

[low lava]

that too. Shaper also have the prefix for socketed gems have 20% more attack damage.

[limpid prairie]

maybe effective calculations can help you

[low lava]

[frigid wedge]

u sure ur bored of build and not just the content ur running with it

[frigid wedge]

sad

[split palm]

Lmao

[low lava]

Tho i am tempted to drop it and use the crown as helmet.

Need to check if it worth it.

[frigid wedge]

bows have some super fun influenced mods, its a shame bow builds are always crit

[frigid wedge]

why tho

[low lava]

Might be able to get more pure damage from it.
But i havent tested in pob. Yet

i dont even have a quiver slotted in 😂

[frigid wedge]

what's the point of using crown of eyes if u can just take iron grip

[split maple]

yea i dont think pob accounts for recoup in ehp

[low lava]

Because, you use iron grip to get spell.
You use crown to convert spell to attack.

[steep sphinx]

nah its the builds because they always end up being less good than the guides at the same lvls. For example my BoC trickster looked so good but when I ran it, a pack of 20 mfs would be enough to one shot me. Or RF Chieftain that if I didnt spam life flasks like cookie clicker, I would die even to I had 90% capped res, 500% fire res, same exact armour, my dmg was also buns

[split palm]

Tbh most builds like crit

Good way to scale damage

[low lava]

Im stupod

[split palm]

But boring af

[low lava]

sorry

[split maple]

anyways per the napkin if i get hit by uba exarch ball i recoup 14 life per second

[low lava]

im talking about iron will 😂

[split maple]

ig that aint worth it

[tranquil sedge]

and wat did you do to fix those issues

[low lava]

But my build already have iron grip.
tho it gives me 0 dps

what in the hell

[tranquil sedge]

or did you even find what the actual issues in the build were

[frigid wedge]

u sure ur not just, missing thr currency to get good gear

[low lava]

This shet confusing me now.
Does this not apply to TS O_O

its a projectile attack.

[tranquil sedge]

and even a potato ass build can farm currency

if thats all was needed to improve

[frigid wedge]

ye but grip is just str bonus to attack

[split palm]

😭

[frigid wedge]

actually

[split maple]

"Iron Grip: because the combination of Iron Will and Crown of Eyes already applies Strength's damage bonus to all attack damage, Iron Grip has no additional effect." https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Crown_of_Eyes

[frigid wedge]

maybe it proj attack phys

not just proj attack

it is

im a moron

[low lava]

then they should say "phys"

no ?

[frigid wedge]

no wonder this keystone is so shit

[split maple]

chris are you using iron will and crown of eyes

[steep sphinx]

Perhaps that was the case with those 2 builds, but my Spark build which Iinvested 1100 divs into dies to like 30 monsters with no brick modifiers, Vruun legit 1 shots me and I have 1:1 the gear the guide has, yet my DPS is 6m and his is 350m something

[frigid wedge]

bonus to melee also applies to proj, dmg bonus is to melee phys

[tranquil sedge]

sounds like you just didn't configure pob

[low lava]

No, because im stacking crit from helmet.
But i did want to use the crown at first.

Was just testing to see if crit was stronger, then just pure DPS from crown.

[limpid prairie]

skill issue
if i had that money :,(

[tranquil sedge]

dies to like 30 monsters with no brick modifiers,
without more context that would just be brushed off as skill issue or u misread the situation

[split palm]

1.1kd is like

[steep sphinx]

farm more ???

[split maple]

or misbuilt

[split palm]

Relatively low this late into league?

[low lava]

Stupid wording shets.

[split palm]

In trade

[tranquil sedge]

yea, in any case none of this sounds like issues with the guides ur following

[frigid wedge]

yeppu

[split maple]

tho for spark imma gonna say if you feeling squishy its dmg issue not tank issue

[split palm]

If you play the game relatively much

[tranquil sedge]

unless they majorly fucked up, this sounds like skill issue unfortunately

but at least this is fixable if you share pobs

[steep sphinx]

what context u need

[final owl]

i doubt my build is worth much more than 1kd if it is at all

[tranquil sedge]

wat monsters
what map mods
wat did u do that you died
your pob

[limpid prairie]

bruh my build is like 500 divs maximum im problably stretching it

[tranquil sedge]

all that stuff

[low lava]

Never used Iron grip before. I just see str bonus also applies to projectile.

But nooo

[split maple]

gonna bet your pob is enough

[split palm]

My build just gets more expensive by the day...

[steep sphinx]

sure idm being called a dumbass xD, Ill send it

[split palm]

Do nothing

Shit costs twice as much

[steep sphinx]

most likely, but idm if yall can help fix the issue

[tranquil sedge]

im about to head to the gym but there's lotta ppl active in chat im sure someone'll get to it

[rancid sluice]

ppl fall into the trap of following -most- of a pob or build then being upset when they dont get the same results

[tranquil sedge]

otherwise brb couple hrs

[low lava]

i gain a whopping 200k dps with crown 😂
If i take iron will

[split palm]

Like the FF pair went almost 5x the price

[cosmic eagle]

any recomb wizard out there, so i need to do now is to split and isolate the 2 prefix?
next is slam a clean vaal regalia ilvl85+ body with armour essence for recomb since it's not a native mod for both body armours and i am good to go? i'm in ssf so this +1 spec mod took me 2 days to farm it will be despair if i need to do some dumbshit i dont know

[split palm]

The timeless also 5x

#1223326540847120668

Has recomb

[split maple]

eldritch annul suffix, prefixlock scour. when only the two prefixes -> split.

then use low tier armor essence as only prefix on desired chest

[cosmic eagle]

there's only 2 prefix

[tranquil sedge]

read the full sentence again

[split maple]

alt-hover item before recomb, if mod name isnt "Essence's" you ok

[cosmic eagle]

i need to annul 1 suffix?

[split palm]

Scour split lmao

[native abyss]

fungal bureau of investigation

[split maple]

get rid of all suffix

so split guarantees isolation

[limpid prairie]

we need 1 prefix the spectre prefix

[split maple]

so eldritch annul into preflock scour

[split palm]

Easier to prefix lock scour

[cosmic eagle]

[tranquil sedge]

you also should read the sentence again

[cosmic eagle]

let me check if i have enough eldritch anals

[frigid wedge]

ur build gets more expensive as soon as i log on atm

[split maple]

you need 1

[split palm]

Yeah...

From like 5m

To 6m...

[tranquil sedge]

farm one if you have to, its worth it

[frigid wedge]

eventually

[split palm]

Surely

[frigid wedge]

ill make shit for my own char

[split palm]

Worst case you sell the boots

The very much perfect boots...

[frigid wedge]

went from kafka nagging me about shit to making ur boots

[cosmic eagle]

sweet i have 1, literally 1 and only eldritch annulment

[frigid wedge]

xD

[split palm]

I mean you needed it for your guide!!!

[limpid prairie]

can you hinekora an elevate orb?

[split palm]

And I just presented the budget

[split palm]

Yes

[split maple]

good, 1. eldritch annul suffix, 2. prefixes cannot be changed scour, 3. split -> important to get rid of suffix first, otherwise split can fail to isolate your prefix

[split palm]

That's how you make 5elevated stuff

[limpid prairie]

uuhhh good

[frigid wedge]

ye

[frigid wedge]

ye ig

[split maple]

then use lowest armor essence you got on the other chest, make sure its the only prefix, alt-hover to double check mod name is NOT "Essence's" slap into recomb repeat

[split palm]

Those boots are just diabolical

5 elevated mods...

[tranquil sedge]

yea its usually almost necessary for triple or quad elevated gear

[split palm]

Like what the fuck

[tranquil sedge]

and at that point once someone makes it once everyone else just mirrors it

[split palm]

You can yolo 3rd tbh

[frigid wedge]

realistically i kinda think it'd be easier to do on 11L swords tho

[tranquil sedge]

true but expensive :x

[split palm]

4th tho, basically impossible

[split maple]

for 5 elevated you even need to hinekora exalt for 6th feeder influ mod

[frigid wedge]

for showing how it works

[tranquil sedge]

also depends on which side the third mod is

can impact difficulty

[spice pecan]

all that im hearing are "these are mirror boots where you'd need a tft level mirror fee to even begin to break even"

[split palm]

Wouldn't sword be 12L with imbue

[tranquil sedge]

i dont even know the boots we're talking about

[split maple]

dominanceys obey suff/preflock

[tranquil sedge]

pic?

[split maple]

just pain in the ass to get feeder mod

[split palm]

Tbh for 5x elevated

[cosmic eagle]

my ssf life is cooked, ill be back next week i guess fuck this unique map drop pool i always get some dogshit unique maps

[split palm]

I can understand a fee being a mirror

[cosmic eagle]

[split palm]

That shit sounds like absolute hell to make

[frigid wedge]

the item is 11L to me and always will be, a lvl 1 support is not a new link for most supports

[spice pecan]

can you horizon unique maps into other unique maps

err, blessed

[tranquil sedge]

do you need that recipe unlocked

for wild bristle matron?

or can it apply regardless?

[split maple]

can apply but its 1 in 5

[tranquil sedge]

that's okay

if he has wild bristle matrons to gamba

he could gamba

[split palm]

I mean, the Lvl 1 support sometimes is all you need

[split maple]

would rather farm 2 more eldritch annuls 😛

[split palm]

11.5L

[split maple]

or the map

[cosmic eagle]

lemme check if i got some matrons

[tranquil sedge]

or that

[split maple]

like reroll kirac maybe?

[tranquil sedge]

whats kirac

[split maple]

kirac gold shop

i miss the real kirac :/

[tranquil sedge]

oh

[split palm]

Kia gold shop

[cosmic eagle]

surely i hit prefix cant be changed

[split palm]

Or how I made some money before palsteron ruined it

[steep sphinx]

Ima jst send it and see if anybody can help
https://pobb.in/vpu2kWhnZhyr
this should be my POB at best case scenario when I use sigil of power and when I also have vaal grace up

[frigid wedge]

ill b back

[split maple]

@tranquil sedge

[frigid wedge]

thats just a service piece

[tranquil sedge]

jesus

[spice pecan]

what in the fuck

[limpid prairie]

Can you up your odds somehow
i mean in a dumb way like multi mod something

[frigid wedge]

its from echo shop, i hate the trade advertising of mirror gear

[tranquil sedge]

i dont even enjoy spark but holy shit i'd play spark just to use those boots

[spice pecan]

you can get fucking FIVE pierces on boots?

[tranquil sedge]

what the fuck

[frigid wedge]

dont list it on trade

[tranquil sedge]

yeah

[frigid wedge]

ye

elevated pierce is giga

[cosmic eagle]

yeah both prefix cant be changed and multi mod recipes are still missing

im telling you my ssf run is cooked

[spice pecan]

i mean they used to do this anyway by putting it up for like 420mirr

[cosmic eagle]

the game got me 2 locks tho

[spice pecan]

at least now if you see it on trade you can whisper ingame if you want service i guess

[frigid wedge]

ye it just bugs me

[tranquil sedge]

you can't list it on trade

if you also wanna use it

unless you do that forum shit i guess?

[frigid wedge]

u can

[tranquil sedge]

but has time for that lol

[frigid wedge]

ye

[spice pecan]

i mean they surely are using a mirrored copy but yeah

[tranquil sedge]

i guess for mirror stuff

[tranquil sedge]

oh

[split maple]

thats by the big ducks guide?

[tranquil sedge]

im dumb that would work lol

[spice pecan]

xdd

[timid crow]

sure you can, make a copy and list the copy on trade

[steep sphinx]

anime princess

[tranquil sedge]

feel like ppl would rather list the original but ye this works too if you don't mind having 1 mirror in play at all times

actually

that won't work

[cosmic eagle]

this game loves to drop obas trove, death taxes and pillars of arun but not cowards trial and putrid

[tranquil sedge]

if you have a fee

[cosmic eagle]

[tranquil sedge]

you can still trade pre-mirrored copy after invite

[foggy elm]

alright time to sell 100k yellow juice

[tranquil sedge]

and the shops also advertise that if ppl do that

but ye can't sell pre-mirrored if fee isn't zero

[timid crow]

that's why you don't post this in merchant shop, you post it for direct whisper

[tranquil sedge]

ye but at that point can just do what mythik said and advertise the original too

whatever works ig

[timid crow]

yea

[tranquil sedge]

fuck i wanted to take a few days break from the game

but looking at cool gear makes me wanna play again

[timid crow]

us commoners can speculate all we want, but we're the poors in this eco

[split maple]

so the magic tricks guide pobs like to do for dps there is toggling that dropdown

i wont call it realistic, but also 1 spark hit isnt realistic - its somewhere in the middle

[steep sphinx]

that makes my dps 61m

so in the middle would be like 30m

[opal ingot]

finally found all hideouts for this league

now it's just Academy and Sunken City

[split maple]

i can believe it feels squishy too - like your survivability is based on sigil of power, arcane cloak and mom uptime. if you arent inside max stages sigil of power and cloak is down, your phys max hit falls by half to 10k

if you are out of mana in addition, to a smidgen over 7k

[limpid prairie]

nightmare maps keep trolling me
how is 80%quant +90 more quant not enough for achivement

[split maple]

at these numbers you never want mobs close

[steep sphinx]

so the solution is to eradicate everything before it eradicates me

[split maple]

yea for spark i would much rather build dps than tank

[final owl]

isnt the offscreening everything kind of the point of spark

[opal ingot]

ok

[split maple]

Idk much about this particular archmage setup tho, I saw the animeprincess pob but didn't like it so didn't dig into it much

[opal ingot]

got 3 portaqls robbers trench

[limpid prairie]

what about a different guide? i saw a guardian PoB

[steep sphinx]

fair enough, still doesn't make it less annoying when I die to a small pack of monsters

[karmic gust]

https://imvexed.github.io/spark-calc/?a=c&ah=1000&ps=4.11&d=3.63&pc=10&cs=10&shape=c&face=0&pr=6&fk=0&fc=0&ch=0&sp=0&er=3&ts=120&cxu=0.23005&cyu=-0.35446&bxu=0.35211&byu=-0.48592 you can just use this calculator to see hits

[steep sphinx]

isnt as easy as it sounds tbh

[karmic gust]

with that bad duration it doesent look like you even get 2 hits on average

[tranquil sedge]

...of course there's a calculator for this

lmao

[steep sphinx]

atp there is nothing that doesnt exist in poe comunity

[final owl]

it doesn't sound easy. just the endpoint of the build. presume some degree of mostly killing things before they get to you required for it to feel good though..

[limpid prairie]

how many skill calculators have you seen? i think im at 3

[split maple]

Emm, Spark one, kf one

[opal ingot]

does anyone want robbers' trench?

[split maple]

Iirc there was one for zenith before it was in pob?

[split maple]

Best hideout ever

Was the first one I found

[opal ingot]

firs hideout you found was an extremely rare one xd

gzgz

[karmic gust]

there also was regular molten strike calc

[tranquil sedge]

lemme login and check

[split maple]

I am so sad that kill count map device from last league doesn't fit in

[tranquil sedge]

ye

[opal ingot]

oh yeah u said that yesterday haha

[tranquil sedge]

need

[opal ingot]

i rmeember

[hardy heath]

hmm

[split maple]

Sage can you wait 2h for srev to be back from gym

[hardy heath]

i think ill take the annul down there

[karmic gust]

there is kill count map device in current box as well i think and looks smaller :d

[hardy heath]

dropped a mist yesterday and now one from a valdo

nice

[tranquil sedge]

i got delayed lol

im goin now

[native abyss]

i don’t go to the gym because i don’t like to pick up heavy things

[limpid prairie]

then you should try to push heavy things instead

[steep sphinx]

me

[opal ingot]

hurry on in

last portal

Namharim_bornofdaiframe

[spice pecan]

why are you slaying palsteron

[opal ingot]

he ruined my life

[split maple]

for spark of the nova i just change cone to circle and it works or?

[dark kite]

funny name

I love harvest bosses and their random invulnerability

[opal ingot]

time for more greninjas

[bleak quiver]

they killed crop rotation so harvest is also dead

[cosmic eagle]

is my prefix safe for recomb now?

[split maple]

yea thats good

[opal ingot]

no its not

you need to give it to me

[split maple]

show alt hovered second chest image before you slap into recombo and gl

[cosmic eagle]

yeah take it in ssf

[opal ingot]

migrate and give

[split maple]

just migrate lvl2 ranger with it, i am sure sage wont mind the wait

[opal ingot]

yeah

[cosmic eagle]

so i need a good base slammed with an essence that doesnt say essence?

[cosmic sapphire]

Don’t give to sage. They’re lying. Give it to me. I will make sure it’s safe

[opal ingot]

yes. if you want the answer already figured out

here is the link

[modest sparrow]

Harvest and dead in same sentence..?

[split maple]

as the only prefix yeah

[dapper kite]

hello guys quick question, if i wish to sell my alva temples, does the area level matter if it's only for double corrupt?

[opal ingot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yeSkil3piTqRn_umT3JvZW2WW3OOjLqcoL-WDS99u10/edit?usp=sharing

[cosmic eagle]

damn NNN

[opal ingot]

#1490214356485672960 message

read the section here

so u know what happens

[bleak quiver]

harvest = crop rotation, havest with no croprotation = farmville or some shit

[cosmic sapphire]

I don’t THINK ilvl matters for that one

[dapper kite]

ty yuzu

[opal ingot]

youre welcome

[cosmic sapphire]

[cosmic eagle]

if you need rancour crafts dont do CR

[modest sparrow]

LMAO

[opal ingot]

yeah i think even at this stage of the league

non crop just beats crop rotation

enchants just fuck over crop rota man

i think half of it doesn't work for crop rota

[bleak quiver]

its not about beating or anything, crop rotation is just the most fun thing ever in this game

[cosmic eagle]

for some reason those rancour mobs drops shit loads of local juice too

[opal ingot]

someone saisd "chance to upgrade tier 2 to tier 3 works on crop rota" but i genuienly don't feel that way

[bleak quiver]

havest wo it is dogshit borring

[opal ingot]

they do

x4 of a t3

[split maple]

okai i sure hope i configed this correctly

[opal ingot]

1 less than a t4

if they dont buff crop rota to work with the astrolabe im gonna crash out on reddit

i think i should make a feedback post before next league

[bleak quiver]

yes

same

[opal ingot]

like

crop rotation is just so much fun

[steep sphinx]

how do I get points for the currency part of the genesis tree?

[cosmic eagle]

so you just rawdog harvest without taking the cannot wilt node it will boost more corpse grown plots even more?

[opal ingot]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Genesis_Tree#Mechanics

here lil gup

[karmic gust]

if you just need hits per cast then i just set cast speed to 10 usually there and divide hit rate by 10, makes it simpler

[opal ingot]

if i got cannot wilt enchant, if it doesn't have other enchants taht buff noncrop i go crop rota

[spice pecan]

where did "lil gup" come from and why is it so popular

[cosmic eagle]

from the guppies

[steep sphinx]

thank you

[karmic gust]

and yes

[opal ingot]

i heard it from sushi and now it's seared into my brain

its like when rilay says

"is for me?"

or when tyty says

WAS

[dark kite]

only gup i know is the orange blob from risk of rain

[steep sphinx]

question! how do I "donate"

[spice pecan]

yes, this is what i thought it was about

[opal ingot]

... donate?

[steep sphinx]

gift, sorry

[opal ingot]

just take the quest items talk to ailith

[spice pecan]

it just sounds so weird/offputting whenever anyone says it lol

[opal ingot]

u get points

[opal ingot]

gift wuh

how to use wombgifts?

[opal ingot]

oh

just use the breach tree

[dark kite]

the quests word it weird

[steep sphinx]

ah bet

[dark kite]

you just use wombgifts

[opal ingot]

gift/spend hiveblood

same

[steep sphinx]

okay thx

[opal ingot]

btw since i helped you you owe me your first double foulborn unnatural instinct

dont forget about me

[cosmic eagle]

you need wombs

[split maple]

i am prolly doing smh wrong just coz i dont believe these numbers are reasonable 😄

[haughty dirge]

Poo2 is good!!

Since they added crafting

[split maple]

shows me 17 hits for my planned pob

[karmic gust]

i think you are just reading it wrong

you can share the url that you configured it uipdates in browser

[cosmic eagle]

if you look closely, poo2 endgame is a mini delve

[steep sphinx]

one more thing, which wombgift is the most expensive hiveblood wise

[haughty dirge]

It's gonna be beasts!!!!!

[loud geyser]

rf can run no recovery, but not no regen yes?

[bleak quiver]

just as boring as delve too

[split maple]

https://imvexed.github.io/spark-calc/?a=c&ah=47000000&ps=3.73&d=4.191&pc=17&cs=10&shape=c&face=0&pr=2&fk=0&fc=0&ch=0&sp=2&er=3&ts=10&cxu=0.95728&cyu=-0.05367&bxu=-0.01314&byu=-0.07777

doing that cast speed=10 as you said

[opal ingot]

i forgot. but just to be sure, just focus on currency/ancient wombgifts

they give u most money

for ancient womgifts, focus on jewels

[steep sphinx]

alr ty

[split maple]

for jiquani abuse

[opal ingot]

these are the trees i stole from someone else

[karmic gust]

yea so thats almost 2 hits per cast right

[steep sphinx]

ight bet

[opal ingot]

the thing is @steep sphinx you get so many wombgifts and too little hiveblood

so you see where im going yes

[steep sphinx]

I have 100k hiveblood

[opal ingot]

wow

foulborn unnatural instinct incoming

[split maple]

oh thats what you mean for dividing by 10

[dark kite]

ha, no way

[karmic gust]

yea

[split maple]

so if i put count=2 in pob and look at 1 hit its roughly the number i can expect practically?

[dark kite]

i watched a guy throw a million juice at the tree and got squat

[cosmic eagle]

i dont mind them adding beasts in poo2 since we know already that we are a testing realm for poo2, if they somehow have massive qol for beast farming and selling in poo2 and add it to poe1 that's a big win

[karmic gust]

yea

[split maple]

okay that makes me sad now so ig it works

[loud geyser]

finally developing einhar lore

[steep sphinx]

anything that makes money :D, is that currency tho?

[karmic gust]

even though if you rly only have 2 pierces then you might want to grab a bit more :d

[opal ingot]

foulborn unnatty instinct is good money

and a lot of foulborn jewels i think

just more consistent

rather than sniping a foulborn mageblood/headhunter

source: my vibes

[cosmic eagle]

hows the coping?

[opal ingot]

its over

[lucid kiln]

chat why exactly do people want locus of corruption other than to double corrupt?

[opal ingot]

i cant stand breach with my build

i need to play a 2 screen clearer

not a 0.5 screen clearer

[cosmic eagle]

what are you even playing?

[grizzled lily]

he posted pt2 also!!!

[opal ingot]

we want to double corrupt to double corrupt

[split maple]

could elevate boots ig

[opal ingot]

there are other uses for the temple too

[lucid kiln]

what

[opal ingot]

like the double corrupt but gem

or the apex of atzoatl or some shit

[lucid kiln]

but we can only double corrupt in there right

[opal ingot]

yes only in the locus of corruption

[lucid kiln]

what items could you possibly want to double corrupt

[dark kite]

why else could they possibly want it? thats like asking why people want gasoline other than to use as fuel

[grizzled lily]

never had a good double corrupt on gems

[opal ingot]

the possibilities are endless

[dark kite]

oh i see

[grizzled lily]

never will

[opal ingot]

i cant give an answer

[lucid kiln]

i mean ive never heard of locus of corruption until yesterday so idk

[grizzled lily]

wtf also

is that standrd

[opal ingot]

league

[dark kite]

well usually people corrupt uniques and jewellery

[drowsy eagle]

you double corrupt every unique that you don't want to volatile

[grizzled lily]

wtf mogol

[dark kite]

since rare armour can get good implicits via eldritch

[grizzled lily]

thats 300 divs on trade

[lucid kiln]

sounds like a gamba to me

ill just sell the chronicles

[dark kite]

yeh double corrupting is gamba

[opal ingot]

im bored i want more

[dark kite]

its for minmaxers

[tacit crow]

we are almost done

well

almost done step 1/3

[opal ingot]

ill give anyone 10d extra if they convert 200d that ill give to them to chaos orbs

wait nvm

i can just pay gold rotas to get 5m gold

[normal hedge]

why i did it for free

🤡 ?

[cosmic eagle]

just to make sure, this is the essence prefix i only need right?

[opal ingot]

get owned

[normal hedge]

if you want me to do it again lmk

[opal ingot]

thanks

[opal ingot]

spectre is prefix right

[cosmic eagle]

yeah

[opal ingot]

ngl bro

yeah its good

[split maple]

why vaal regalia tho

and not twilight

[cosmic eagle]

wait

[opal ingot]

see

[cosmic eagle]

im just testing out

oh shit you right it's twilight

almost

[karmic gust]

you might also want to run more duration in main link if you arent already gives you 1 extra hit pretty much based on the calc

[split maple]

yea i wish

in 4l gloves

oh wait prolly it beats crit dmg

[bleak quiver]

surely it will turn into honourhome

[cosmic eagle]

yeah i had to double check, this shit scary in a ssf setting ngl

[opal ingot]

GL

[karmic gust]

yea with overloaded intensity inc crit damage sounds verry skippable

[split maple]

oh it does ty db

[bleak quiver]

lost +2 in the first vaal then bricked

[steep sphinx]

hell ye

[cosmic eagle]

ok solo prefix, i can recomb this now vs the spectre right?

doesnt matter if the spectre is blue base?

[normal hedge]

u're not going overqual?

[cosmic eagle]

if i can drop it in ssf sure

[split maple]

yes

[cosmic eagle]

[split maple]

its ok

[split maple]

just spam tree

[cosmic eagle]

how often the tree even drop overqual?

[normal hedge]

id say gonna take you a while to find the base you want 25+

[steep sphinx]

holy shit 😭

[normal hedge]

so just send it ig

[cosmic eagle]

aight imma try to farm at least 100k blood that's piss easy

imma try if i can drop overqual twilight

[lean urchin]

doing hives?

[cosmic eagle]

fortress yeah

[lean urchin]

isnt fortress the 8 waves in maps?

[cosmic eagle]

25+

the tower one

[steep sphinx]

how do I check which is worth shit, or do I have to check awakened for each one

[bleak quiver]

by having a better filter

[normal hedge]

either you know or you dont

if you dont you check

[cosmic eagle]

also any betrayal enjoyer? i think the rate i am fighting 1 of the 4 generals/leaders is quite slow like i did like over 50+ maps and i only fought 2 intervention and 1 transpo

is there a way to actually progressing those bars faster?

[bleak quiver]

proper 5522

[cosmic eagle]

idc about the loot tbf, i just want to fight and try to drop medallion

[steep sphinx]

never understoof this mechanic

[cosmic eagle]

sadly i need it for the shield

[bleak quiver]

just watch one of the many guides for it, setup 5522 and you will have one every 1-3 maps

[cosmic eagle]

next league imma pick a build that doesnt need complicated shit

[bleak quiver]

its also rreayl good for ssf

[cosmic eagle]

wait that fast?

the fuck

[split maple]

dray you need a lot more relationships

its like safehouse per 4 maps with reinforcement scarb

assuming all the fucks have red lines between them 😄

[cosmic eagle]

damn

[bleak quiver]

yes, it really fast with a good setup

also, the breach guy drops the mageblood card

[cosmic eagle]

yeah i saved some will try that 5522 thing

[bleak quiver]

put him in intervention and shank him until you have yours

[cosmic eagle]

it that fled right? i saw carn farming her

[bleak quiver]

yes

[opal ingot]

yehh

[lean urchin]

haku poop

[opal ingot]

having itf on a safehouse is good too because yo uget a bunch of foulborn uniques

i forgot which side

[bleak quiver]

intervention

[opal ingot]

yeah that

[bleak quiver]

actualy no

its transportation

intervention is always scarabs

[opal ingot]

mods get him

[cosmic eagle]

so i need to make sure these dudes have green lines or red?

[bleak quiver]

yep, scarabs

[bleak quiver]

watch aa guide, too hard to explain

[split maple]

eh i think i can be ghetto af and use voidwalker for pierce instead of proper boots rite

[bleak quiver]

you want the 5 guys to be linked to the 2 guys

but no links between the 2 guys

[cosmic eagle]

recommend me 1

[opal ingot]

why though

i genuienly dont know why

[bleak quiver]

cuz you dont want them to show up together

you want the 5 guys instead

[opal ingot]

ah

[bleak quiver]

this guy has a long but SUPER DETALIED video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbfuNhSfMUU

[opal ingot]

thanks big bro

[grizzled lily]

also of red lines

[cosmic eagle]

yeah i also noticed some of the members even if they are in transpo keeps showing in intervention

[grizzled lily]

always make them go to jail

do u have betrayal scarabs on

one of them makes it that other members appear

[cosmic eagle]

im saving them coz i dont know anything related to this content ngl

[split maple]

reinforcement is good

[grizzled lily]

i can teach u how to do betrayal but its boring and its not even worth the headache

[split maple]

but like it does same as having good relationships

so i would just fix your lines first 😄

then use scarbies

[grizzled lily]

just

delete the members with green lines

make them red

[bleak quiver]

honestly, after watching the video and doing it once, it became so simple i dont mind anymore

[grizzled lily]

make everything red

[split maple]

wdym

[bleak quiver]

its only trouble to start

[split maple]

green lines turn to red once you click betray