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[split maple]

@native token sanctum section when

[atomic crane]

29k

[short prairie]

i havent been picking them up

smh

[opaque sphinx]

realistically like 15k with good mitigation will survive most content

[split maple]

dude you do merc lab for gs

[dense rock]

You gonna go broke from buying 1c offerings? 😄

[split maple]

but there wasnt a good layout a single time yet this league

[short prairie]

oh merc not uber

[lucid gale]

Always run trials for old time's sake.

[final owl]

29k is adequate, imo, depending on what you're doing. but it also depends how you're arriving at that number..

[candid stag]

Rf is so boring man. Is HRoC actually everything ppl say?

[opaque sphinx]

i have like 16-17k phys max and i don't die anymore

[atomic crane]

Arctic armour

[lucid gale]

Except Piercing Truth, that one can be unrun.

[rose quail]

You take that back

[opaque sphinx]

with arctic arm/flesh stone

[short prairie]

not bad

[dense rock]

I dont usually die, but when i do, its due to chaos dmg

[candid stag]

Do u use fire trap or scorching ray?

[opaque sphinx]

chaos op

thats why we went divine flesh

[rose quail]

Scorchin Ray. I transitioned to life stack

[atomic crane]

[opaque sphinx]

also mitigates pen really well

[atomic crane]

I want sublime pof soon but I would also need the rest of the setup with it so prob around 800d or something

[final owl]

I still manage to die

[candid stag]

bv?

[rose quail]

No. It's pure RF.

[opaque sphinx]

with IC on

[dense rock]

I go around this by teleporting around 10times/sec. Aint have no time to take dmg from chaos

(enemies always poison on hit mod grinning in the corner)

[final owl]

pivot to chieftan BV imho.

[atomic crane]

God dam block makes ehp go crazy xd

[opaque sphinx]

arcing glad is bis

[opaque sphinx]

its a combo of a lot of things but yeah block is gud

[final owl]

yeah i am only 26k max hit with IC disabled.

[candid stag]

Can you dm your setup ? I’m following pohx guide but wanted to swap into bv minion pact after obtaining gear but idk scorching ray sounds fun

[atomic crane]

I do arcing while mapping most of the time

[dense rock]

how in hell are people rocking 100k+ EHP while having max hit of 20k? 😄

high block and regen or some shit?

[atomic crane]

Arcing with proj speed looks funny

[final owl]

just evidence for the "eHP doesn't mean much" case.

[opaque sphinx]

divine flesh mitigates pen and -res
block and spell block go hard
suppress
endu charges
doppelganger

[split maple]

caping reses is overrated

tho i need to fix chaos at some point

[dense rock]

Tried and tested tactic of "AVOID EVERYTHING GREEN"

[final owl]

I mean my eHP is allegedly "infinite" even with IC disabled. it sure AF doesn't mean i can't die.

[opaque sphinx]

we also have 2k+ leech
2k+ lgoh
and 800 regen

[short prairie]

what the heck is this

[atomic crane]

Same as zenith

God I love zenith so much my fav build ever

[rose quail]

I'm at work so don't have access to PoB. https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/BaltazarDZ-5745/characters Haraneer is the chara

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/SRXEfv_A1xd2

[final owl]

my regen is at 1800/s now though

[rose quail]

Working for better helmet and Manifold ring atm

[dense rock]

😄

[opaque sphinx]

doppel+blessed call venge cry is actually pretty decent for regen

[final owl]

Maybe I should get blacksmith back for the fire life leech though.

[opaque sphinx]

15% life/sec

[atomic crane]

I use defy pain from zerker it's pretty gud

[candid stag]

Your gear is insane I’m broke lol

[rose quail]

Also I should really swap to Eclipse over CD

[dense rock]

[opaque sphinx]

op

[rose quail]

Yeah. Life stack is the high budget one. Regular is cheaper and I would think BV does better with less currency

[final owl]

I kinda enjoy not relying on leech for once. my list of brick map mods is long enough as it is :I

[opaque sphinx]

i need to minmax this harder but outside of a total rework with MB i don't really see an easy way and i cba doing that

[final owl]

I stalled at MB rework. its so much faffing about with a build that already works..

[atomic crane]

https://pobb.in/luES7ALNOYmt

Is the config gud

[opaque sphinx]

exactly lol

[atomic crane]

Zenith confuses me

[candid stag]

Is the bv minion pact interaction really op? Should I try it. I don’t have a lot of currency atm

[opaque sphinx]

beyond op

[final owl]

wildly OP

[opaque sphinx]

way beyond

[atomic crane]

It's boring op shit

[candid stag]

What’s minimum to get going

[atomic crane]

[rose quail]

I don't know actually myself. That's what people say and that's what I've seen from vids. I would say do it because it's getting nerfed next league fr

[opaque sphinx]

like 10c

[final owl]

it is "drop an insane slice of flat damage on any build with like 3 skill gems" OP

[atomic crane]

Spend 10c get billion dmg

[split maple]

why 150% more dmg

[final owl]

well. any snapshotting build. so BV I guess 😛

[atomic crane]

Nimis

[opaque sphinx]

get a marionette and get minion pact
stack everything else into defense and mobility/booms/aoe
congrats ur done

[split maple]

if nimis doubles your hits its 100% more dmg no?

[atomic crane]

Idk the math

Wait can't we just do zenith count 2 or something instead

[final owl]

unholy abberation isn't that hard to manage for a much bigger added flat

but it's hard to say the convenience of dark marionette isn't significant i guess

i still occassionally accidentally BV in hideout..

[opaque sphinx]

idk i just assume spectres n shit are even harder to manage on console

[short prairie]

wheres my +2 minion corrupt

[split maple]

sure

just tick include in full dps

[final owl]

I guess i feel like as far as the specters thing goes, theproblem isn't wiht the mechanics, it's with me

[atomic crane]

Someone made the pob for me

Saying it's the right way so idk

It's confusing xd

[dense rock]

doesnt marionettes basically enable you to rock 1 extra 50% reservation aura for free?

[opaque sphinx]

godamnit i forgot to do the uber challenge before swapping off the oneshotter

now i gotta eat 300 more regrets

[split maple]

surely there is some better support for you than gmp

isnt there?

[final owl]

does it? I had / have no idea. I was just using for the self revive convenience and not having to manage BV properly

[atomic crane]

What is gmp again

[final owl]

greater multiple projectiles

[umbral crag]

Greater multiple proj

[opaque sphinx]

ggg pls let us pay a 1 time fee of 2500 regrets to unlock a 2nd skill tree setup

[dense rock]

guardian blessing, If you have multiple marionettes, you can sacrifice 1 for BV and just enable guardian blessing aura and the spectres keep reviving before the next one dies, causing you to have the aura permanently

[final owl]

multiple passive trees like atlas 🙏

[opaque sphinx]

yer

[livid quarry]

they want u to play acts again

[opaque sphinx]

what

but i can just eat regrets

[final owl]

oic. fair enough. maybe i'm not convinced any aura can replace that big a whack of flat damage really. but if I hadn't converted to MB already maybe i'd have considered it just for haste..

[opaque sphinx]

just make it cost 250 instead of 100 and let me click a save button and swap between them

or let me pay 2500 to unlock the swap for free

regret sinks

[final owl]

they can just lock additional passive trees behind some pinnacle or other

[crisp obsidian]

I think ggg should make sctrade permadeath

[opaque sphinx]

y do u hate us

[split maple]

now thats one way to fix economy

[final owl]

i think this will be a popular idea enjoyed by most of the community

[split maple]

also make it ssf

[crisp obsidian]

Ew no

I don't like sweaty solo found

[atomic crane]

Don't think so?

Isn't gmp just so gud

[split maple]

woke gmp was just so gud

basic gmp is kinda the awkward lil brother

[opaque sphinx]

how many proj do u have normally

[atomic crane]

Still the best option I think

3 I think

[opaque sphinx]

so u have no extra besides gmp?

[final owl]

need a lot of +proj to make nimis feel good doncha

[atomic crane]

Ya

Might get 2 extra soon from flask tho

[opaque sphinx]

then yeah its prob still best

[atomic crane]

When I swap to pof sublime

[split maple]

non on zenith

you need +proj for nimis to feel good only if using skill that uses projs to clear

[final owl]

oic. i forgot we were talking msoz

[split maple]

coz random dirs mess you up then if you dont have coverage

yeah per calcs looks like gmp makes sense for you

its just kinda funny its comparable with cruelty dmg wise

[atomic crane]

Woke gmp where

[split maple]

in standard :/

would be 40% more dmg for you, while basic gmp is just 19%

[atomic crane]

LS of arcing is so fun too in maps xd

Brrrr

[opaque sphinx]

actually nvm i don't think gmp is that good

[short prairie]

lmao vizniz just wait for divine shrine > get in uber boss arena > one shot bosses

[split maple]

like basic gmp is sad enough that it was actually dmg deficit when i was doing zenith slayer

tho slayer gets more +projs than jugg

due to better pathing rightside

[dark sequoia]

Is fissure worth using with vaal eq

[opaque sphinx]

just for a base example say u do 100 per proj
5th hit is 8 proj = 800
gmp adds 4 proj = 1200
but then -25% = 900

so its only like a 12.5% increase

but im also really high and really tired so idk if i did that right

[final owl]

good enough numbers to demonstrate the concept i guess

[split maple]

math checks out

[dark kite]

hmm. i think i can do blight-ravaged maps but it's close.

[split maple]

just when you weight the average balls of all attacks it amounts to 20%ish

[opaque sphinx]

fair

[split maple]

while for 5th attack yea sad and you kinda relying on 5th attack on zenith a lot

[dark kite]

whats a fun build i can blow 500 divs on

[opaque sphinx]

arcingg lad

glad

[dark kite]

lightning strike?

[opaque sphinx]

yer

[dark kite]

is that lifestack

[opaque sphinx]

ner

https://pobb.in/SRXEfv_A1xd2

[atomic crane]

Seems good ig

[dark kite]

aw i was kinda considering a lifestacker with the axe

[atomic crane]

This is my dmg rn

[opaque sphinx]

u can make my boss oneshotter

[split maple]

can you force hh influ suffix on claws in that setup 😄

[opaque sphinx]

can't force it but yeah that or crit multi was what i was going for

[dark kite]

how's the chonk on this

[opaque sphinx]

its a beefcake

[split maple]

force as in build can live with it not can force craft it

[opaque sphinx]

ur not dying unless ur in like valdos

[split maple]

fair fair, its a pain slam

[opaque sphinx]

oh yeah build would love having it

the dual wield mods i have are completely useless but they look cool

[dark kite]

hmm. the one problem i have with the glad is that im already playing a "press button and walk around" char (bv chief)

[opaque sphinx]

but yeah decent max hits
good recovery thru leech/onhit/regen
high block/spell block
suppress
conc ground for reduced curse shit
divine flesh+doppel for pen mitigation
fast AS for whirl mobility etc

[final owl]

what are the real alternatives? you need a ranged setup?

[split maple]

How often can you use vengeful cry there?

[opaque sphinx]

this plays nothing like bv

[opaque sphinx]

fairly

[final owl]

do you not run up to things and wack them until they die

[opaque sphinx]

most things that actually go thru block do a decent chunk and let u use it

savage hit is not actually that big, like 1/4 of ur life or smth

[split maple]

How much are accel belts in trade nowadays

[final owl]

accel = ~190

[opaque sphinx]

u dont realistically need to use it often anyway, its only there to generate u max rage and then the +1 rage on hit node from blood magic imp escape keeps it sustained

[split maple]

Nyancy go join the Spark cult

[dark kite]

i can't

i genuinely can't

[opaque sphinx]

+venge cry is the hidden tech

[dark kite]

i would love to but that many proj plus any amount of pack juicing will brick my pc

[split maple]

Yea I kinda want to force venge on my slayer now

Just need to test if I ever get savage hit

Coz hella mitigation

[opaque sphinx]

its honestly really good and u prob will

my max hits are decent but not insane

with blessed call too its free conc ground

[split palm]

You can open the spreadsheet and see that it's dogshit now btw

Zigg is back to being best

[opaque sphinx]

and 8% more dmg with the warcry node with the imp escape

[drowsy eagle]

new record

[opaque sphinx]

this imp escape is honestly one of the best in the whole game and its like 70 fuckin c in trade

insane

[dark kite]

wow diamond shrine belt is super cheap now

[split maple]

got to test it, but i think that i only ever get savage hit if hit by chaos dmg (and that only until i go round fixing chaos res)

[opaque sphinx]

ah

[split maple]

like thats my calcs for shaper slam

[opaque sphinx]

nvm

its like 1/8 ur life

so yeah not really that hard to get savage hit

[opaque sphinx]

whats ur actual life total

[split maple]

3.5k unreserved

[opaque sphinx]

so yeah u only need to get hit for like

450

[short prairie]

tbh chieftain bv is kind of fun

[opaque sphinx]

nvm 525

[short prairie]

next leag im gonna try lightpoacher bv

[opaque sphinx]

still

[dark kite]

dont suppose you have any gameplay vids of the glad?

[tacit crow]

good morning

[opaque sphinx]

i don't but i can record you some maps tomorrow

[dark kite]

sounds good

[final owl]

it just feels like directable flickerstrike to me tbh, in terms of playstyle. you have control, but the same thing happens. i guess it's somewhat slower. but still

[opaque sphinx]

i would atm but i need to wake up for work in 5.5h

[split maple]

yeah gonna test it for sure, max rage looks sweet af

[dark kite]

honestly this looks surprisingly affordable

[split maple]

if nothing else its gonna be pob padding, my dps is rly lacking in that department 😄

[dark kite]

i could probably put this together for under 100d

[opaque sphinx]

yeah its fairly cheap especially if u recombo the claws

[atomic crane]

Harvest feels worse now since blue juice got so worthless

[opaque sphinx]

under 100d for sure managable if the ffs are cheap

i paid 30d for them but i think they went down

[atomic crane]

It's also fun trust although I'm a str stacker

Fun skill

[full kraken]

how would you approach crafting this (but on a different base, prolly astral plate)

[atomic crane]

Mapping is so smooth with it

[dark kite]

yeah i can get a pair for 15

[atomic crane]

I do fully juiced breach with LS of arcing

[opaque sphinx]

the rares can be self crafted pretty cheap too for most part

its just suffixes + life and settle slam

[dark kite]

yeah its almost all just life and res

pretty trivial eldritch crafting

[opaque sphinx]

yupyup

and claws are just recombo into preflock veiled c + warlord slam

[split maple]

some enjoyable hovering beastlocked stranded bases with awakener orb prolly

[onyx adder]

It plays like any directional frontfacing clear skill

[split maple]

with having elevated mods on opposite sides nothing else you can do

[onyx adder]

Tornado shot, kb, old lightning strike obviously, that kind of thing

[proud venture]

my big complaint about this league is the league mechanic isnt real till you get to maps lol

[dark kite]

i think when i compared it to bv i was thinking of static strike, not lightning strike

[proud venture]

im level 51 rn lol

[onyx adder]

Ah yea that plays more like bv

[dark kite]

i think im more interested in it now

[fossil mural]

It was a lot more expensive last leg

[dark kite]

especially since i already have a slayer at level 90

so i dont need to level again

[onyx adder]

LS is fun

It doesnt do great damage anymore but its still fast and has good coverage

[fossil mural]

Worst kind of clear

[onyx adder]

Wtd approved

[split maple]

i rly wish LA had LS projectiles actually visually

like it rly feels small compared to LS 😄

[onyx adder]

I swear ppl value 360 coverage too much y'all hate aiming

[fossil mural]

YAS

[onyx adder]

The worst visuals are KB

[fossil mural]

It feels so bad to have to hit twice or thrice per screen

[opaque sphinx]

u dont even have to aim with greater multi

[onyx adder]

It looks like nothing but blows up 57 screens in front of u

[opaque sphinx]

the repeats auto target

[split maple]

just slap greater fork, multi, gmp on lsoa

it will wipe screens

[fossil mural]

Yea its kinda different with proj

I was thinking more like reave

[opaque sphinx]

and tickles rares

[dark kite]

wait, lsoa can fork?

[onyx adder]

I dont enjoy reave because it makes me play too efficient

Im not allowed to durdle around and pick up wisdom scroll

[full kraken]

Im thinking

1. prep crusader base, and prep a second base with elevated aura suffix
2. Strands
3. Imprint -> bench -> regal til low strands spent
4. Harvest reforge phys (?) til I hit boom mod and can elevate
5. Remove suffixes scour (?) to make it magic again? Is that a thing?
6. Lock and elevate loop
7. Remove suffixes again scour (?) to make it magic again? I think thats a thing?
8. Lock and woke orb loop til I hit all that insane shit I guess?

[onyx adder]

Reave is like na fuck u son u lost ur vaal reave stacks to that

Start again

[opaque sphinx]

[full kraken]

is the above correct?

[opaque sphinx]

not wrong

[split maple]

looks correct

just i wouldnt beastlock for dominancey

[fossil mural]

Just play worms

[split maple]

coz imprint aug annul loop will consume too many strands

[atomic crane]

Dam quant is actually pog for nightmare map rush

[full kraken]

would I be better off harvest reforging targeting the aura suffix or the boom prefix?

[split maple]

just do preflock reforge smh to force second influ mod, annul down, yolo elevate, preflock scour

to preserve strands

[full kraken]

you can bench instead of aug and imprint the regal til it eats only 0~1 strands

[split maple]

you know how painful is getting second influ mod that way

especially when you are in trade so can just buy the average 2 dominances you gonna need

[full kraken]

oh thats true, but can I force the second mod? I guess with suffixes full I can reforge lightning to force phys taken as lightning right

[opaque sphinx]

@dark kite also if ur gonna make the gear then play around with the pob for a couple mins first
its most likely better to slap the rare jewel for a chaos res lotm (and put it near nightblade stuff) and that will let u swap an amethyst ring for helical +better suffixes on the rares

[full kraken]

is there a way to add a suffix safely without eating a strand? does beast "remove prefix add suffix" eat strands?

[short prairie]

how many divines

[opaque sphinx]

it works fine as is but is most likely more efficient that way, just havent made the swap cuz i cba remaking rares atm

[opaque sphinx]

0

[dark kite]

good to know

[split maple]

can just preflock reforge influence if nothing else

[dark kite]

the "more crit chance" on doppel doesnt matter right? just the less taken?

[split palm]

10 chaos, 5 exalts

[full kraken]

oh right thats true

[split palm]

Total

[opaque sphinx]

yeah we never swap to insane

its just 10% life regen and 40% less phys+chaos (which is huge because we take 50% of ele as chaos)

[split palm]

Lol

Even worse

[livid quarry]

actually lost currency from not farming

[short prairie]

how many GCPs

[proud venture]

remember when you would trade people and itd be something in chaos and in the trade screen its bubble gum currency as far as the eye can see

[dark kite]

thats where the term "gumball currency" comes from

[short prairie]

in ssf you need all the gumballs

GCPs are rare

[split maple]

Ngl I would rather lab for qual than vendor in 160 gems

And I hate lab

Still better than vendoring 1-20q portals like last league

[short prairie]

wdf

since when did i collect these

smh

rip wrist

[umbral crag]

Actually disgusting tf

[short prairie]

pierce

5!!!!!!????

wdf

[umbral crag]

Penta elevated

[livid quarry]

what build is it for

[umbral crag]

Spork

[gentle chasm]

30 ms

to the disenchanting table

[short prairie]

what

[umbral crag]

Gg

[umbral crag]

5 elevated mod

[short prairie]

you can infintely elevate?

oh

ye

thats why it's a mirror

[gritty garnet]

it's 39 with conditional onslaught not counting the buff

[short prairie]

with fees

[opal ingot]

That's a lot of influenced mods

[short prairie]

sebk just crafted an explody chest

[umbral crag]

Still not 5 elevated kek

[surreal mulch]

imagine if all those random uniques that used to have item quant now had a 1/10000 chance to drop with quant back, how much do you think theyd sell for?

[opal ingot]

Apples

5

[final owl]

why would we want to give quant uniques back to the portion of the playerbase that genuinely doesn't need it

[proud venture]

barrage support sucks i click attack and then instantly do a movement command so i get two arrows off

[split palm]

Till 5.

[opaque sphinx]

is that sebk's boots

or did they beat his

[umbral crag]

No

I think seb is quad elevated

[opaque sphinx]

ohhh elevated lusive too

yeah these are better

damn

[split palm]

How the fuck do you even do that tbh

[opaque sphinx]

he used like 58 mirrors

[opal ingot]

The fun part is it can elevate an already elevated mod

[opaque sphinx]

locks

[split palm]

Like that shit costs diabolically much to make

[umbral crag]

I predict 50ish mirrors

[split palm]

Ik

[opal ingot]

Imagine the amount of locks for that 5 elevated one

[opaque sphinx]

over 100

[split palm]

Same with eldritch influences

[split palm]

I mean you can yolo 3 infl

But 5???

You have to yolo slam a 6th infl mod

[split maple]

The fun part is lock exalting the 6th influ mod to sac it

[split palm]

That shit is like 1 in 50 best case-ish

[umbral crag]

Oh seb used 58 for quad? Cant rmb

[split maple]

But oh well at least you have two hovers per lock

[opaque sphinx]

yerp

[split palm]

Fbe? And normal?

After that it's even more fun tbh, since you need the veiled exalt

1in6

And hit the movespeed chill avo

[unkempt flax]

Hi, need help. I’m running 16 maps and sometimes get something like this: when I enter map - I recieve endless dot that kills me. If I enter Mirage - dot stops. Returning to map - continues.

Anyone knows what can it be?

[split maple]

1 in 3 no?

Can sufflock

[surreal mulch]

whats like the cheapest source of shock immune?

slot wise

[split palm]

Yeah, mb

[split maple]

Tempest shield

[surreal mulch]

yeah its nice but i really wanna swap to bm

[umbral crag]

Lmao

[surreal mulch]

and its like

weird to do that

and lose shock immune

[split palm]

Do you have suppress?

[final owl]

boots can do it

[split maple]

can get full shock immune from boots

2 abyss jewels

[surreal mulch]

oh right boots

[umbral crag]

Sounds weird, idt debuffs and degens stay with you between map and mirage

[split maple]

tempest shield

[opaque sphinx]

[split maple]

ancestral + boots if suppress

[split palm]

Yea

[opaque sphinx]

nvm he used more after that

[split palm]

I can't imagine it being super fun ngl

[surreal mulch]

this is ssf

[umbral crag]

I only rmb he sacked his chest recomb

Lmao

[split palm]

Eating 58 locks

Eating 100 beastlocks with nothing to show for it is pain

[full kraken]

okay so, strands odds are logarithmic right

literally couldnt even hit higher than 80 on it

[final owl]

you can get 100% on boots if you use essence + implicit

[full kraken]

just sunk like 25div into trying to hit 90+ strands, never saw it once

[surreal mulch]

right

[full kraken]

is there a distribution chart somewhere on how rare it is

[split palm]

Lol

Just go do memory bosses lmao

[split maple]

can also combo with bench on shield or chest

[split palm]

They often drop 80+

[split maple]

i rly like elegant form cluster 2x + boots also

releases implicits for other stuff

[split palm]

I had a few 99 and 2 100

[final owl]

i have a 100 or two

[opal ingot]

I checked prohibited library, no one has done it yet

[final owl]

no plans to do anything with them i just feel obligated to pick up things with 100 :I

[split maple]

there is theory that remembrance rolls unlucky

ngl i would buy cheapest high strand chest from trade, pray influ ex doenst erase too many, scour it then bench to magic for imprint

[surreal mulch]

i guess i should go get a better shoe base and sink ichors into it

[full kraken]

whats a sane number of strands to aim for? 80+?

cuz trying to hit 90+ feels like its gonna cost more than its worth

[opaque sphinx]

that was seb's boots

he used 76 locks i think

if i counted correctly

[opal ingot]

I go for 80 minimum ye

[split maple]

man divining that had to be pain in the ass

[opal ingot]

If we're talking double elevated

[opaque sphinx]

the best part

[opal ingot]

Beastlock spam

[opaque sphinx]

he had suffixes perfectly divined

and then he used a dom to remove a shit prefix and it elevated the tailwind again and divined it to 22

[split maple]

its what 5*15*19*5*2 just to get the important mods divined

[full kraken]

well you can divine the prefixes and suffixes seperately

[split maple]

not on these

they are full, no?

[full kraken]

oh I have no idea

[split maple]

like you could divine before veiled ex ms

but his veiled ex ms is perfectly divined

[opaque sphinx]

https://youtu.be/et6lay8ZCnY?t=1499

watch from timestamp

i didn't even know it did that, his reaction made me lol at 2am tho

just the chuckle and "that's fucked up"

[split maple]

oh lock slammed the incr es indeed

[opal ingot]

chuckles what?? hehe. What???

[opaque sphinx]

yeh

[opal ingot]

Repeat 20 times in video

[opaque sphinx]

lmao

not wrong

[short prairie]

unethical craft

[opal ingot]

It's like when farmer wins something, he goes "YESSS" with that flexing pose

[full kraken]

aight, this seems good

[short prairie]

saves me an essenced reservation efficiency helm

[split maple]

senses why do you have better builds in ssf than me

[short prairie]

wdym i dont have better builds

your slayer prob has 200m dps

i have 20m

[split maple]

7m on a good day

with tincture up

[short prairie]

another one

not max fire res tho

[split maple]

its just one annul ex away

[tight crescent]

Anyone know of a good bv minionpact chiefstain build

[short prairie]

yolo annul.

im not gonna min max my flicker anyway

[opal ingot]

Why is no one posting dig hideout listing

[split maple]

not remove suffix add prefix?

[opal ingot]

Do I have to do it myself again

[short prairie]

can you do that to an influenced base?

[split maple]

i think so

[opal ingot]

No think

[short prairie]

let me try

[opal ingot]

It is yes

[short prairie]

[split maple]

oh yea i used it on archdemon last league

[opal ingot]

I did it on my pal gloves

[short prairie]

i thought someone told me i couldnt like a couple of leagues ago

[frigid wedge]

i swear dig is the most common one

[short prairie]

shouldve tested myself smh

[split maple]

sure you aint confusing it with horticraft add/remove?

these dont work on influ

[short prairie]

oh i think i got those mixed up then ye

[opal ingot]

It's about to be once I'm done with it

[short prairie]

i have a ton of lynx alphas

[opal ingot]

Thank fuck I'm not ssf

[short prairie]

wait wrong one

[split maple]

i am kinda rly happy i am not ssf this league

[short prairie]

wolf alpha

[opal ingot]

Ure gsfing right

[short prairie]

??

[split maple]

coz i dont want to know what your ctrl-f vivid vultures looks like

[short prairie]

this league is best forssf

[short prairie]

0

[split maple]

exactly

well not like i have them in gsf but its a matter of principle

[short prairie]

WDFFFFFFFFFF

[split maple]

holy fuck

[short prairie]

max roll life

[opal ingot]

Ban this guy

He is manipulating the odds

[split maple]

even perfectly divined ffs

[opal ingot]

Next step is lock veil chaos 30 aspect and craft atk speed

[short prairie]

max rolled

[split maple]

playing ssf the Casie™ way

[opal ingot]

Don't fill

[split maple]

veil ex surely

[opal ingot]

Oh unless u don't use replica farrul

[short prairie]

ill literally just. aug speed, prefix cant be changed unveil crit ele damage

[split maple]

cannot aug speed senses

[short prairie]

oh harvest

F

ye that the part i got confused

[split maple]

ex ex preflock scour bench block ex ex

[short prairie]

i should just take the t2 aspd

[split maple]

how much of dps difference is t2 to t1 for you

0.5%?

[short prairie]

less than 1% if t1 max roll

[split maple]

idk i think you can settle ||you wuss||

[frigid wedge]

senses what ascendancy is ur flicker now

[short prairie]

reliquarian

[frigid wedge]

still?

[short prairie]

still

[frigid wedge]

btw why didnt u elevate the frenzy

[short prairie]

i capped crit

elevate does nothing

i have the terminus est node

[umbral crag]

Its a matter of principle, not practicality

Smh

[short prairie]

the max hit loss is due to un-suppress capped

[split maple]

-2 passives oh woe

[short prairie]

what -2 passives

[split maple]

to cap your suppress back

or would you prefer exalting suppress there into preflock 1 in 3 veiled ex?

[short prairie]

i.. kind of dont want to fill my suffix again

if i lose the t2 aspd it's dangerous

i can drop this cluster

[frigid wedge]

hm

i think

ill go deadeye and forbidden pf charge gain

[rough field]

You just need melee splash and some additional targetting on flicker to clear packs

[frigid wedge]

instead of running pf

[rough field]

If you don't get melee splash you will just flick onto every mob possible lol

[frigid wedge]

take uh, chain, proj, tailwind and bloodline or smth

yeah having tribal fury on flicker is big

[split maple]

thats not the tribal fury cluster anyways

got it anointed rite?

[mental nymph]

Hi chat

[frigid wedge]

hi

someone on ninja be playn similar vls

interesting

but on elementalist

oh its bond stacking

gros

not even paradoxica

[dim turtle]

chat.

need a cool strat to farm with occassional ting that is not -d/h or breach

[dark kite]

METAL BAWXES

[dim turtle]

i ran full mirage operative

[grim pivot]

Betrayal

[dim turtle]

for -4d/h

[frigid wedge]

oh they've done a real shit job with this

[gentle chasm]

bro losing 4 div an hour

[dim turtle]

YEAH

[gentle chasm]

[dim turtle]

IDK MAN

I GOT 1 GOOD SCARABS

XD

[dark kite]

were you using veiled exalts on every box or some shit

[dim turtle]

like 5x 70c ones

thats it

for 15 maps

[dark kite]

skill issue

what build you running

[full kraken]

aight so, whats the safest way to make this item magic?

[dim turtle]

blade flurry assassin

[dark kite]

oh so not even a good build

[dim turtle]

im speed

and have explode

[dark kite]

try bossing

[dim turtle]

[frigid wedge]

u gotta clean prefixes

[dark kite]

can you split in 3?

[frigid wedge]

and prefix lock scour

so only explode ther

[frigid wedge]

requires 2 mods per base so maybe?

[dim turtle]

how much brainpower does it require

[dark kite]

i just watched a video earlier and im pretty sure someone split a 6mod staff into 3x 2mod blue staff

[full kraken]

is that reliable?

[split maple]

cannot split influ

[dark kite]

oh right

rippers

[split maple]

i would preflock reforge influence, annul down so explode is only prefix, elevate then preflock scour

[full kraken]

do I want to clean prefix before I orb of dominance?

[split maple]

yes, unless you are fan of yolo annuling elevated explodeys chests

its not fun trust

[full kraken]

Im here now, so its just yolo annul time?

[split maple]

remove prefix add suffix 2x

you dont care about suffix, since if you win dominance it will get empty slot anyways

now that i think of it preflock reforge crit is cheaper than preflock reforge influ and as good 😄 for next attempt if needed

[full kraken]

suffering from success, it slammed another elevated mod

I guess we just annul, its a 50% chance we hit one of the two

[cosmic raptor]

when new leg

[full kraken]

faaah

[cosmic raptor]

nice, slam it with perfect exalt

[compact bronze]

is afk farming bannable?

[gritty garnet]

fossil phys spam I guess

[compact bronze]

im not doing macros, just taping my mouse so its constantly clicking

[split palm]

As long as the action isn't automated

Say holding left click with a brick

Should be fine

Using software to toggle that holding - not fine

Remapping keys is fine

[dark kite]

i have genuinely considered buying a small lead weight to hold down my shift key for spamming jewelers and fusings

[split palm]

So like scroll wheel rclick/lclick

[full kraken]

is that better than harvest phys spam?

fossils are hella expensive, but so is yellow juice

[split palm]

Shift + scrollwheel

[gritty garnet]

as long as it's not eating your strands whatever works works

[dark kite]

no, binding scroll to m1 fucks with other stuff

[gritty garnet]

idk what other crusader mods you can block with fossils

[split palm]

Have a key

[full kraken]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYvFQCivliQ&feature=youtu.be

[split palm]

That toggles it if pressed

My caps lock toggles the scroll being a click

[split palm]

Fossils would reforge, no?

[dark kite]

i suppose i could try that

[split palm]

And pretty sure metacraft with fossils doesn't work

[frigid wedge]

use the numlock trick instead

[split palm]

Hi sans

[gritty garnet]

it's for getting explode back

[frigid wedge]

bind it to a numpad key, hold key and click numlock, it should continue to hold it

[gritty garnet]

idk if they wanted to keep the current influenced mods

[frigid wedge]

hi shika

[split palm]

Oh

Yeah, in that case, I suppose

[compact bronze]

wait really

let me try that

[frigid wedge]

ye

[split palm]

That should work too

[compact bronze]

crap i dont have numlock on my kb

[frigid wedge]

how

[split palm]

As windows is such a dogshit OS

[compact bronze]

60% keyboard

[split palm]

Bleh

[compact bronze]

maybe there is that i dont know

[split palm]

Why pay more

For WAY LESS

[arctic rain]

its more aesthetic sometimes.

[full kraken]

hitting it with harvest, avg of 1562 chaos

hitting it with jagged fossils, avg of 2100 chaos

so looks like harvest better

unless anyone knows a trick to force explode on prefix via reforge?

[arctic rain]

if you need yellow juice then you should prolly farm harvest, saves you some trading

[dense rock]

yeah... poe.trade 😄

[compact bronze]

do i assign it to keys like page down?

am i right

[frigid wedge]

its either the number or the function

i cant remember which

[split palm]

Shouldn't it be anything that numlock can toggle?

[compact bronze]

okay

[frigid wedge]

yeah but the numpad isnt actually the number, the bind is numpadx

[full kraken]

if I put prefix cant change and suffix cant change and then reforge phys twice doesnt that force it

though I can hit T2 instead of T1

4/5 chance to hit T2, 1/5 chance to hit T1

[dense rock]

https://giphy.com/gifs/abcnetwork-joel-mchale-card-sharks-cardsharks-knNXtGOpAtW3iwwHrR

[split palm]

Pray it hits T1

Or

[split maple]

Can always fill on first try

[split palm]

Pray you can unravel later

[split maple]

And there is 3 mods in pool

Unless you exalt a random suffix first

[compact bronze]

i just accidentally applied enkindling on my potion, how to remove it?

[split palm]

I mean

Use the other flask orb

The uhhhh

Or go to crafting bench and remove it entirely

[dark kite]

you can bench it

[karmic gust]

you can also remove enchants on bench

[dark kite]

or rather, unbench

[compact bronze]

i see

thanks

[junior otter]

From my brief time playing mamba Ive affirmed my opinion that dots are boring

[full kraken]

5000c in and still havent seen T1 explode

tried 4000c in harvest reforge and 1000c in jagged fossils so far

[arctic rain]

i have seen 3xT1 Dot multi in 100 divines of chaos reforge. GL.

[full kraken]

harvest reforge is supposed to be only 1 in 250 chance but I guess I got a bad luck streak today lol

[arctic rain]

(on quiver)

[full kraken]

oh

oh okay I see whats happened now

Im an idiot

[arctic rain]

LOL

Unlucky man

[full kraken]

does uh... recombinator preserve strands if Im lucky and it picks the right base

like I wanna just gamba the 50/50 and recombinator with a lv 100 armor base and pray it stays rare and also picks my base right

otherwise lol I just blew like 25div on... nothing XD

it picked the wrong base rip lololol

[arctic rain]

unlucky

[lucid gale]

[modest sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-don't-think-i-will-cap-avengers-marvel-gif-6420739801263939210

[drowsy eagle]

did you know you could make 43982 divines if you sold damnation card at it's all time high

[split palm]

Someone bought a damnation dupe multi for 6d yesterday

8->16

[meager sorrel]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1493868552556515378 if somebody wants to

[split palm]

Literally 3m profit

[final owl]

welp. 2 out of 3 JV harvest maps have not duplicated the harvest now. this isn't a wildly promising start

[karmic drift]

what happens when you have a breach astrolab that spesifies unstable breaches but you have the atlas passive that all breaches are hives ?

[cosmic raptor]

holy moly

[mental nymph]

How much pack size ?

It has to be 50% + iirc

[zealous flax]

returned

hai

doug

stolen any poniacs recently?

[cosmic raptor]

just 2

hi

[steel light]

i'm doing on dune cause the map size is smaller

[final owl]

i was doing atoll. just saw nyanc claim JV seemed to dupe every time. figured i'd have a look. think atoll is better still

[opal ingot]

i go for bog

atoll is awesome though

[final owl]

why would pack size affect chance of mirage dupe? but ok. atoll seemed pretty reliable regardless of pack size

[steel light]

u got any other atlas encounters that might drag the mirage away? cause it'll try to be near an encounter, and higher chance if harvest is the only encounter type

not blocked

[final owl]

nah i block all other mechanics fully when doing harvest

[mental nymph]

I think 50%+ guarantee dup iirc

[final owl]

as the dupe is all you really care about

[steel light]

50% isn't 100%

if it's 50% might as well use a mirage map tbh

[mental nymph]

100%

How expensive would that be

[final owl]

how does that work though. why would pack size affect wether or not map gen decides to put harvest within mirage area or not

[opal ingot]

wow

it didn't occur to me to use 16.5 mirages when i get at least tier 2 + chance to upgrade

[split maple]

there is pack size breakpoint for harvest mobs to dupe

not for mirage to dupe harvest

but you need more than 50%

[final owl]

also is the astrolabe challenge bugged or what. it feels random if doing astrolabe maps adds to the total or not

[split maple]

especially coz there is less explicit effect now on tree

[final owl]

right the pack size for duping things like T4s etc sure, i get that. makes sense

[steel light]

are u using this? cause sometime it could pick a map which ended up blocking and eating 2-4 nodes, so u'll end up accomplish a lot lesser for that astrolabe

[karmic gust]

dont you need to actually finish the objective

[final owl]

I mean i assume so. but i am?

[past mantle]

@karmic gust I managed to push the sword to 11m dps in the end.

I think I could do more but I don't want to double corrupt the sword to get fort with resolute.

I was doing 4k wisp juiced breaches just fine so I think the damage is enough.

https://pobb.in/WUZqswpV5e2q

[rocky glade]

Wait the subreddit removed my post for Rule 5?

Rule 5 is no clickbait title

This isn't even a clickbait wtf

[steel light]

this is not reddit customer service

[rocky glade]

Its general, or do I have to take it to the other general channel

[past mantle]

Feel like that's fair game for this chat lol.

[split maple]

hmmm cadiro is pretty interesting tho sounds like recipe to kill pc rly fast

[past mantle]

I want unique maps ngl.

[warm forum]

Are you killing the map boss also? I did a bunch of jungle valley maps and noticed it wasn't counting until i kill the boss

[split palm]

I want to be able to actually pin stuff like in poo2

[past mantle]

What do you need to pin exactly?

[split palm]

The tooltips, etc.

[past mantle]

Yeah that'd be nice.

[split palm]

Kind of annoying making screenshots with item tiers

[rocky glade]

Is it worse than what other builds already did to the client

[split palm]

Gotta press win shift s and almost instantly after alt

[past mantle]

Yeaaaaaaaaah, very real.

[rocky glade]

Cadiro's Gambit is just a much niche way to clear screens but still has some DPS

[final owl]

ah this'll be it. in my head astrolabe objective completion had become map completion..

[split palm]

You can clear screens just fine without it in poe ngl

[rocky glade]

But I love random arrow effects

[split maple]

make it work on all projs not just arrows please

[rocky glade]

Temporalis is self explainatory

Chase tier in PoE 2, definitely chase tier in PoE 1

[split palm]

Temporal would be too broken

[rocky glade]

Even more chase

[split palm]

No

[rocky glade]

Because imagine no cooldown for shits like CoC

Congrats we break the game

[split maple]

temporalis would kill servers not just clients

like no chance it would land in that form

[split palm]

And given most poe cooldowns are way shorter than poo2

A recipe to fry everything

[rocky glade]

First item to get nerfed again from PoE 2 to 1

What else would be fun

[modest sparrow]

Trust

[split palm]

There are no particular uniques that'd be any worth in bringing from poo2 I feel like

[arctic rain]

if i remember correctly, COC is no longer the worst offender for the servers, but things like ultra fast poison stacking is.

[modest sparrow]

The most fun I had in poe2 was Fury of the king but we ain't got no druid in poe1

[arctic rain]

generally speaking, ailments are iirc a problem for the server on a large scale

[split maple]

ingenuity could be allright if they didnt nerf it too much since i last played poo2

[split palm]

True actually

[split maple]

tho idk if its competitive with the 3 big belts rn

[split palm]

But

Megablud

Is just superior

[short prairie]

what i do

[split palm]

And I would very much doubt it'd multiply with helicals

[split maple]

like i could believe ingenuity would find use in the niche of inflating poeninja dps numbers on stackers

[split palm]

Fb ex x2

[split maple]

multiplying misted helicals

[split palm]

Or like lock prefix reforge?

[arctic rain]

depends what you need and want

[split maple]

fb ex 1x, then bench suppress

[split palm]

Or maybe unveil?

[arctic rain]

bench a mod you dont want

FB exalt

then craft w/e else you need

is what id do

[short prairie]

how do you know im making a trickster

[split palm]

Reduced attr incoming

Btw

[short prairie]

(im actually not making a trickster)

[split palm]

I mean you cab also just

Eldritch spam?

[rocky glade]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Flesh_Crucible

OH YEAH THIS SHIT

I WANT THIS SO BAD

[split maple]

well item already has t1 int, thats useful sometimes

wouldnt want to lose it

[rocky glade]

HOLY SHIT

Some builds can't afford branching too far

[short prairie]

wait

hold on

[rocky glade]

Using one jewel socket and getting the correspondant Keystone is a gamechanger

[drowsy eagle]

skin of the lords?

[short prairie]

the build i want to make doesnt even use ES gloves

[split maple]

prism of belief would be kinda broken in 1 too

+3 levels for one socket? login

[short prairie]

F.

[rocky glade]

Do you want to sacrifice a chest slot

[split palm]

"Sacrifice"

[split maple]

oh 150% adorned is also in that game

[split palm]

It's literally one of the best bv chief chests

[arctic rain]

id want armor to apply to elemental damage at reduced effect to be in the game (not just chaos dmg or that new essence mod on shields)

[split palm]

And is expensive for a reason

[arctic rain]

though i get why they dont do that, cause armour stacking is gigastronk already

[rocky glade]

Oh yeah that too

[split palm]

Poo2 needs to scale down + levels A LOT

[arctic rain]

or buff armor a bit, cause imo it feels meaningless for majority of builds

[split maple]

armorstacker could rly use some of these mini-transcendence effects

[arctic rain]

they already have

[split maple]

like rn it has issues with ele max hits

[arctic rain]

2-4% on block recently

[split maple]

yeah on build that likes dualwielding

[arctic rain]

ig but at that point why dual wielding

like the shield slot is so competitive, you lose a million armor

[split maple]

em armorstacker gets enough flat from flask usually?

and from hybrid chest if you dont like twilight regalia setup

[split palm]

Heart of the well could be cool with some goofy veiled stuff I suppose

[drowsy eagle]

well that jewel in 2 comes with downside, so choose your sacrification

[arctic rain]

yeah but ultimately you probably want that shield+2-4% armor applies to ele

at 2million armor thats between 40k-80k

idk if armor stackers struggle with dmg, i feel like they dont

[rocky glade]

Would Ingenuity be stronger in PoE 1?

[arctic rain]

but then again, they didnt struggle with tankiness either given good investment

[split palm]

Depends how it works with helicals

[short prairie]

F

[arctic rain]

time to annul

[rocky glade]

Most builds can pick a downside

[split maple]

oh 80% of armorsackers do go shield this league actually

thats nice

[vernal ravine]

trying to metacraft t1 es on finished suffixes and open prefix and i've hit t2 es 4 times and t1 life 5 times

[arctic rain]

i think dual wielding wasnt that popular anymre

with armor stacking

idk when exactly but shields started to be so good, that they went that route

i think it was when suppression was added into the game

so you can cap suppression with shield

[split maple]

okay already last league it was 60%ish using shield, mostly aegis aurora

idk how i missed that switch

[tough cove]

aegis was always the alternative version of the build

[arctic rain]

im waiting until i make a budget armourstacker

maybe at some point

[split maple]

yeah ik it was viable, i just though it was the niche setup

[tough cove]

recent increases in damage output is the reason sword + shield have takeen over

[arctic rain]

POBing it is too hard tho…

[tough cove]

it was for a while becaucse eyou needed the double sword damage output

[opal ingot]

i wonder how much is a 150 adorned now

anyone remember the price when it was still non-legacy? 1 mirror?

[rocky glade]

https://poe2db.tw/us/The_Barrow_Dweller this also could be fun but I wonder how the fuck did GGG code that last line into the game

Avoid death from hits is... How?

[opal ingot]

10 mirrors jesus christ

[split maple]

ngl i think the last time i looked at armorstacker pob was trips in like mercs? when she was playing with idea of swaping one replica dreamfeather for 9l sword just for faster clear

[arctic rain]

you just dont take dmg i think

[rocky glade]

Yeah but how does the game calculate which hit can kill you

[arctic rain]

?

[split maple]

if (dead) then { not }

[tough cove]

a very valid question in poe

[arctic rain]

dawg if it didnt know you‘d not die at all

it just checks if your life is negative post calculation

[tough cove]

i think hes more saying in a game like poe where you usually take a ton of hits at once

[arctic rain]

and then says no or yes

[split palm]

Do you actually?

[tough cove]

an just mitigate most of them

well you take potential damage before mititgation sources

[arctic rain]

i guess but to me this is pretty simple, since you just check post calculation

[vernal ravine]

you want a discount on mine? open to offers

[split palm]

Plus it's super simple

[onyx adder]

Yea this one isnt hard

[split palm]

Shiny????

[opal ingot]

the legendary 0% adorned

[arctic rain]

but then again, nearby is basically screen or not screen or cosmologically large

[tough cove]

and shiny too

[arctic rain]

so i get the confusion xD

[split palm]

And shiny

[opal ingot]

offer 20 standard chaos orbs

[onyx adder]

U just implement the death log that players have been asking for since 2013

[split palm]

Don't get yourself scammed

[split maple]

its actually rly strong

[split palm]

Offer 25c

[onyx adder]

And then u hide it because fuck u guys

[split maple]

lets you use rare jewels on adorned setup

[tough cove]

5 necropolis

[onyx adder]

And then its easy

[split maple]

without opportunity cost

[split palm]

And is optimal with 7P Voices

[opal ingot]

where's my foulborn and replica adorned

one for uniques and one for rares

[split maple]

em thats a mod on stygian vise now

[split palm]

You meant

[rocky glade]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Myris_Uxor would this be broken for Slayer

[split palm]

On normal jewels

White jewels

For replica

Actually

[rocky glade]

Yeah I think those are the ones I want to see in PoE 1

Just silly items

[drowsy eagle]

is slayer culling strike

[split maple]

make it 200% and would be kinda good

synths can be normal

[split palm]

It'd be funny to have a unique jewel that scales with white jewels

Like 7% more hp for each viridian jewel

And a bunch of other shit

[rocky glade]

Yeah Slayer has culling strike when you hit an enemy at 20% life

[opal ingot]

40% cull lol

[rocky glade]

40% cull is like instakill

[split palm]

And it is like belt of gambling

[drowsy eagle]

I mean it just says Kill

[split palm]

Where it randomly rolls what jewel type gives what bonus

And rolls are like slightly above normal

[drowsy eagle]

poe and wordings

[opal ingot]

true lol

[rocky glade]

The game considers it as Culling Strike

[split palm]

So like instead of 7% life, you get up to 10%

[opal ingot]

i bet that if that was introduced in the game, it wouldn't work on slayer culling

[split palm]

Scale cull to 99%

Zdps build, but quadrillion dps with cull

The quinn classic

[rocky glade]

To be fair if this item gets in the game only 2 kinds of builds would benefit from it

[opal ingot]

blood price

[rocky glade]

Slayer Builds and AG builds

Oh
Oh god
Imagine if 1 has this instead of the regular version

Imagine
Allowing to wield 2h as 1h

[opal ingot]

wow barbarian

[split maple]

why oh why limited to weapon type