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[twin arch]

spin the gears in your head gauntlet-less lad

[opaque sphinx]

ok now what does that mean in english

[twin arch]

Animate Guardian of Smiting

think about what it does

And how it does it

[opaque sphinx]

ag of smiting literally uses eldritch gloves

[twin arch]

On principle answering that shit for you would make me a cornball

[opaque sphinx]

??

[twin arch]

Its easy

Just do it again

Timer might stop at 5 mins

[peak nexus]

tf are you blabling about? It's getting embarassing

[cobalt blade]

u were asked if the gloves had anything else lol

[twin arch]

[cobalt blade]

or if it was just those suff

[twin arch]

keep going

[opaque sphinx]

THE BUILD LITERALLY USES ELDRITCH GLOVES I DON'T GET IT

[twin arch]

that doesnt sound like annuling essences

[opaque sphinx]

?????????

[onyx adder]

U can just assume this guy is 30iq and go with his 30iq craft

[twin arch]

Every second typing here is a second lost on the craft

[onyx adder]

Of course, when he inevitably backs out of buying it

U will have no alternative buyer

Because u will have a 30iq craft

So, u have to consider that in the equation

[peak nexus]

yeah you should get back to your alt spam. You're gonna need the time

[opaque sphinx]

w/e im just gonna finish it with double life and min dmg and sell it

[twin arch]

[onyx adder]

Discord general chat economics very complicated

[rancid sluice]

10d to prove a point though might be priceless

[twin arch]

So you admit its not possible

[zenith ridge]

how do i increase map quantity now the chisels are gone?

[peak nexus]

wtf?

[twin arch]

double life doesnt sound like what we talked about

[cobalt blade]

it was baked in baseline

instead its just maven chisels now

[onyx adder]

Its true, kira does waste more money than this on dumber shit on the daily

This would be practically efficient

[rancid sluice]

hah

[cobalt blade]

whicu only need a single one for max qual

[zenith ridge]

oh sweet! Thx

[opaque sphinx]

kek first ex slam

[full kraken]

sorry that was unfortunate timing that wasnt directed at you, I have just been scouring my maps and Im thinking maybe I should start alching them

[onyx adder]

Tbf u didnt say anything when he set the parameters

[full kraken]

purely so I get more sulphite per map 🤔

[onyx adder]

So its on u as much as anyone

[opaque sphinx]

we only talked about suffixes

[twin arch]

I took three mirrors into twilight strand and dropped them for le funny reddit screenshot, then i had a deadlock crash and couldnt relaunch

[opaque sphinx]

i hit them

u didnt buy it

now someone else gets the gloves

[twin arch]

Poe is the money burn game

Its fun

[zenith ridge]

ahaha none taken! its a good timing tbh

[cobalt blade]

but did u go for the item sells for more to vendor for the corrupt at the end

since i think agos ran corrupted items for ascend no?

[twin arch]

It does

you want to hit the triple implicit corrupt with life

[cobalt blade]

and now suddenly 150d makes sense

1/3 to vaal off that exact implicit into the 1/20 odd to hit life

[twin arch]

Its not that hard

I did it on my boots

[lean urchin]

u cant go back to twighlight strand

[cobalt blade]

as yknow we asked if it had anything else

[twin arch]

The one in act 6

looks the same on a zoomed in screenshot

[twin arch]

Again

[lean urchin]

its much brighter

[twin arch]

Not hard

My boots did it

[twin arch]

Lower gamma in mspaint

Then select the tinks bubbles

And revert them back to normal

Baby’s first photoshop meme

[lean urchin]

why didnt u just rmt again like u did way back

3 mirrors? make it 30

[twin arch]

I dont rmt because im not cringe

Nor am i european

[opaque sphinx]

[twin arch]

@lean urchin did you hit 90 in gauntlet yet

[lean urchin]

cant play without mageblood

[twin arch]

Weird way to spell shrinebelt

“Yeah i still write on cuneiform tablets, the cellphone is overrated”

[opaque sphinx]

bru thats act 8 temple isnt it

F

[lean urchin]

could be piety arena in act 3, since its rank 1

[opaque sphinx]

thats what i thought too

[rancid sluice]

i found a craft today too leveling like my fourth character through campaign heh. if you dont use it you dont miss it

[short prairie]

Wow poe ninja doesn’t account for heat shiver freeze and chill effect, that’s kind of dumb

I was wondering why my damage so low on ninja

[opaque sphinx]

whack

[cobalt blade]

it does if you have a skill that puts a base chill but doesnt count for freeze ever i think

or if your ele with min chill

[short prairie]

I have ice bite and 100% crit

[opaque sphinx]

[short prairie]

Ninja should use AI to auto detect if some conditions are met and then toggle

Like my chill on pinnacles on calc is 25%

[opaque sphinx]

neat

[lean urchin]

when macro says minion dmg crafted, does it search for only crafted ones?

[opaque sphinx]

ngl not sure

[lean urchin]

wait doesnt matter, it can only be crafted

[opaque sphinx]

even without the minion dmg tho

[lean urchin]

essences gives life, fossils idk

[opaque sphinx]

i spent 1d on base
2d on essences
and 2d on eldritch chaos

so 5d craft

[rancid sluice]

volatiles have kind of busted just clicking on a stat in trade site and getting best normal roll. obv can just put it on stat line but now when you do it you get bonkers expensive ones instead of just the normal high roll. small gripe

[twin arch]

bored

made my gloves already

Hit the triple corrupt

Too lazy to do anything else

[opaque sphinx]

there's no -50s

[lean urchin]

its 1%, yolo

[opaque sphinx]

going thru my challs

[lean urchin]

niko ez at least

[twin arch]

Are you going for 40

[opaque sphinx]

prob

[twin arch]

thats not too bad

[lean urchin]

what have u been doing

[twin arch]

Delve i imagine

[opaque sphinx]

nah farmed simu
then harvest and ulti
then boxes
then pinnacles/ubers

[near totem]

Any Reliquarian in SC (or HC I guess I"m not your dad) that can confirm that this can't kill you? skills that cost life can't right?

[bleak quiver]

cost means you NEED to pay

[lean urchin]

70% sure u can

[bleak quiver]

if you cant pay, you cant use it

[twin arch]

Simu was a nice farm until i started using dissolution

Then i couldnt do it anymore

[near totem]

k so i should be safe using this and rathpith and not gibbing myself lol

[twin arch]

Cant

[opaque sphinx]

i only did it day 2-3 to farm some starter moni

[twin arch]

If you dont have the ability to pay the price

You wont pay the price

[near totem]

cool, tyty

[bleak quiver]

if it is a fast cast speed, you just wont bbe able to use it

[twin arch]

Ya

Man i wish i had enough dps for bossing

Im so bored

[bleak quiver]

cuz raphpith will send your life bellow the cost and you will need to get enough back to pay it, basically will become stuttered if you cast too fast

[twin arch]

I dont wanna corrupt my rings

[short prairie]

this is pretty much similar to foulborn lightning coil, except you still take lightning damage..

[twin arch]

if you corrupt a Simplex can it still hit the Implicit corrupt, but not do anything because of the simplex implicit lock

[opaque sphinx]

[twin arch]

Or is it limited to just nothing \ reroll

[opaque sphinx]

man this is so many maps i gotta do

[twin arch]

its less bad than you think

[opaque sphinx]

the fuck dude

[twin arch]

If you have fun playing poe you wont struggle

yeah

[lean urchin]

The implicit modifier cannot be turned into a corrupted implicit, synthesised implicit, turned into a Talisman, or otherwise altered. The implicit modifier also protects any other implicit modifiers the item may gain, such as a Gilded Fossil implicit.

[twin arch]

Run 200 maps

Thats not that bad

[opaque sphinx]

thats 500 maps

[twin arch]

100 maps then

Im pretty sure each scarab gives 1 point

[opaque sphinx]

or is it counting the scarabs?

[bleak quiver]

no

[opaque sphinx]

oh

[twin arch]

5 scarabs is 5 points progress

Isnt it

or is that the other one

[bleak quiver]

its 1000 maps

[twin arch]

Theres one that does that

[opaque sphinx]

kms

[bleak quiver]

every league has that challenge

[twin arch]

Oh thats the 1000 maps one?

Yeah gl

[lean urchin]

500 mesa/city []s lets go

[twin arch]

Meaa

Mesa my beloved

[opaque sphinx]

still so much other shit

[twin arch]

Kill oak 1000 times

[opaque sphinx]

man how did i manage to force myself to do 40 challs before

95% of this shit is just stuff i dont want to and have no reason to do

[twin arch]

Player engagement

[lean urchin]

its for free cosmetics, id rather pay

[bleak quiver]

not really, player engagement is a fancy way to say force, most people dont care about challenges

[lean urchin]

or quit at 36, because the rest is a totem

[twin arch]

the totem is the same every league innit

[bleak quiver]

different flags

but yeah, pretty much

[twin arch]

Plus, i already have made a hideout i like

The totem doesnt fit stylistically

[lean urchin]

then u can quit at 36

[twin arch]

Yeah, thats what im getting at

[opaque sphinx]

challenges should be challenges not grinds

[twin arch]

I quit at 28

I dont like helmets

[lean urchin]

are u aware of who made this game?

[twin arch]

Tencent

?

🙂

[opaque sphinx]

yeah and most leagues its "kill uber without getting hit by this"

not run 1k maps

[twin arch]

wdym most leagues

Thats a challenge in every league

I remember back in sentinel that was a thing

for the ophidian set or whatever

[lean urchin]

u got that crit belt, just blast 500 mesas while listing to music

[twin arch]

Exactly

[opaque sphinx]

sure that finishes 1 chall

[twin arch]

not if you also do

Niko missions

And shit

[lean urchin]

do more than one at the same time

[twin arch]

While ur doing it

Yeah

Cogbliz gets it

[opaque sphinx]

yeah i get that, its still annoying as shit

[lean urchin]

ive done it

[twin arch]

Yeah its annoying

Thats how they get people to stay showing up in their player numbers

I dont subscribe to it so i dont do it

[opaque sphinx]

yeh ive got 40 a few times, i just dont remember it being this grindy of challs

[twin arch]

uhhh

[lean urchin]

some of them are ass, true

[twin arch]

A lot of the challs are the same each league no?

[opaque sphinx]

no

[twin arch]

The ones for mirage specific werent that bad

[bleak quiver]

most people who go for 40 complete the grind challenges w.o. even noticing

[twin arch]

50 of each wish color

Saresh nohit

[tranquil sedge]

challenges help but i dont think the grindy ones matter here

[twin arch]

and discover all wishes

thats not terribad

[tranquil sedge]

i dont think having or not having a few grindier challenges is particularly gonna impact player numbers

ppl playing this long in a league are gonna play regardless, if its fun

[lean urchin]

i volvaaled my MB, lost 1 flask

[tranquil sedge]

also if u wanna just do 36/40 this league is kinda free

maybe a couple harder challenges still sure, but difficulty and grind are a bit diff anyway

but u can skip most of the grind that way

[bleak quiver]

yeah, had no idea what they were until now

[tranquil sedge]

yea the ggg one was surprisingly chill for once

i got most of it? done without even realizing

coz i was just blasting maps anyway

[opaque sphinx]

idk maybe im just mad at the game idk lol

[tranquil sedge]

i respect that

[lean urchin]

36 btw

[opaque sphinx]

i have 0 reason to ever run conq elder shaper etc maps

and the fact challs make u do that just because is silly

[tranquil sedge]

this league definitely fucked over those maps

maven's writs are a large part of the reason to run those maps

but if those are worthless then ur profit tanks

no point running after that

[umbral crag]

And the old awakened too

[tranquil sedge]

just feed to mappers and even then questionable

[umbral crag]

Awakened gem*

[tranquil sedge]

true woke gems too

[opaque sphinx]

even without profit its just ass running them

[bleak quiver]

nah, boss rush is a giga strat, conqueror maps love the league mechanic

[opaque sphinx]

i love immune phases on my regular map bosses

[umbral crag]

Now they're all mostly removed so anything maven kinda doodoo

[tranquil sedge]

the only immune phase in shaper maps is chimera

[twin arch]

boss rush sounds fun

I should do uber feared farming

[tranquil sedge]

elder yes but they have more div/hr to compensate

[opaque sphinx]

fair

[twin arch]

Wait

Boss rush is nightmare map farm no?

[tranquil sedge]

elderslayer i think its just drox there too?

[twin arch]

Whats boss rush to you

[tranquil sedge]

nightmare maps are one of the things you get when boss rushing

but also like depends wym boss rush

[bleak quiver]

boss rush is anyting you rush bosses

[tranquil sedge]

do u mean rushing nightmare bosses in which case u burn nightmare maps, or boss rush t16 maps for drops including nightmare maps

two diff strats 😄

(the former is infinitely superior this league)

[opaque sphinx]

i genuinely think my issue is i just don't enjoy playing the game lmfao

[tranquil sedge]

bro ive been on a break for 2 days now lol

[twin arch]

I do Abomination or whatever its called

[tranquil sedge]

i burned out after 3.5 weeks of going hard

[twin arch]

For maven frags

[lean urchin]

thought u had like 10 mirrors

[twin arch]

Over and over

[opaque sphinx]

i like the puzzles and crafting and pob but actively running maps is never really enjoyable

[tranquil sedge]

now im taking a break to reset

[tranquil sedge]

abom's nice

zigg's nice

[twin arch]

Spend your currency

[tranquil sedge]

citadel is apparently the best according to @split palm

[opaque sphinx]

i don't think i ever even get more than 2m mob kills a league

[twin arch]

Spending is fun

[tranquil sedge]

coz of the more expensive exceptional gem

[tranquil sedge]

how u play to enjoy the game is subjective

nobody can say maps are the only way to have fun 😛

[opaque sphinx]

valid

i just want challs that reflect that too lol

[tranquil sedge]

unfortunately, maps are a main focus of the game

[opaque sphinx]

yeah

[tranquil sedge]

so challenges will always reflect that if you aim for 36/40 or 40/40

[drowsy eagle]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/miragessf/character/otango13-2664/otango_ms_two?timemachine=day-3&i=2&search=skills%3DMolten%2BStrike%2Bof%2Bthe%2BZenith%26timemachine%3Dday-3
does this look viable? xd

[tranquil sedge]

why not

low budget msoz isn't fun to play

but it'll work if you want it to

[earnest raven]

Same, i like investing and predicting the market. I only map out of necessity when gambas go bad

[opaque sphinx]

^^^^^

mapping is literally only if i have no money left lmao

[earnest raven]

Sometimes ill play for like a week, invest and take a break

[drowsy eagle]

or should I just go with normal ms the pob has 3.5 attack rate idk if that's comfy

[opaque sphinx]

whats a break

[tranquil sedge]

only ppl i know who play normal ms are armorstackers

[opaque sphinx]

i try to take those but other games just don't fill the void and then i end up logging back in and just sitting in hideout lmao

[tranquil sedge]

and i think they just play it coz they dont have anything better

wat is this even for

next league?

[drowsy eagle]

I started hcssf yesterday

[tranquil sedge]

oh

[rancid sluice]

when im done here ill prolly go run le till poe2

[drowsy eagle]

don't wanna play meta starter

[steel light]

this looks doable for anyone that can afford it?

[tranquil sedge]

@short prairie man needs ssf build ideas ^ 😄

-# flicker flicker baby

ruin yuck

[drowsy eagle]

hc

[cobalt blade]

its ruin 3 no block

[tranquil sedge]

i could do that if i paid attention

but imagine paying attention

ruin will kill me when i inevitably stop looking

[steel light]

o shit i kept missing that shit shattered shield

[rancid sluice]

too many screens most of my deaths are not paying attention i feel that

[cobalt blade]

its also a survive ulti so thats what like 2 minutes for ruin to fuck you

lmao

[steel light]

fuck ggg for adding that as a normal mod

[tranquil sedge]

wat build would even do this

wander with clear?

or some kinda minion/totem with big dps maybe?

[cobalt blade]

big ev asion build prob

and spell dodge

just enough max hit you dont die to random hits and full avoidance for ruin

[tranquil sedge]

oh wait ruin is any monster hitting u?

[drowsy eagle]

I have msoz, smite of divine and bonkshatter complex trauma

[bleak quiver]

was going to buy it, but its 20div for a 200% survive, fuck that

[cobalt blade]

no its just the ghost but you can evade/dodge it

[bleak quiver]

i can make the same just mapping in that time... shit takes 2 years

[tranquil sedge]

i c

[cobalt blade]

but i think ruin 3 had the ranged one

that can fuck you from across the whole ulti

[tranquil sedge]

feel like bonkshatter might be fun if you've not played that before

[drowsy eagle]

I have

[tranquil sedge]

well its hc so familiarity is good

[steel light]

10+ profit?

[bleak quiver]

ghost 2 and above already shoot, but unless its ghost 4 its free

[cobalt blade]

looks okay if good clear build

[cobalt blade]

not with no block

with no block ruin 3 can fuck u

[bleak quiver]

i dont have block and im doing them

[cobalt blade]

then go do the 90 div gamba

[bleak quiver]

its not 90div, its 20 div

[cobalt blade]

tht requires u to avoid ruin 3 for 2+min

[bleak quiver]

mageblood is 110d, not worth the time

[twin arch]

I do wonder

[cobalt blade]

its a 90d gamba because you lose 90d if you fail

lol

[bleak quiver]

200% takes too long

[twin arch]

People still cling onto the idea of mageblodo

[cobalt blade]

20d profit

[twin arch]

Its kinda fallen off

[bleak quiver]

ye, not worth it imo

[twin arch]

I can think of a few easy rare roll belts that a build would rather have than mageblood

[cobalt blade]

i mean

[twin arch]

Honestly

[cobalt blade]

it objectively is if you can guarantee clearingi t

[twin arch]

If someone said mageblood needs a buff

[bleak quiver]

200% survive takes way too long

[twin arch]

Theyd be stupid, but not that stupid

[cobalt blade]

if you do that 2-3 minutes for a whole hour its yknow 400d an hour

ofc you cant do that because theres not enough

but thats profit margins similar to valdos

[bleak quiver]

exactly, i would rather continue sniping faster ones

[cobalt blade]

if you could make 20d every 3 minutes it would be objectively worth running lol

[whole wind]

Ugh

[bleak quiver]

people see ghost 4 and list it for cheap, when its shit like protect the altar so you just need to pop 3 rares and its done

[cobalt blade]

ye that do happen

[opaque sphinx]

i'll stop bitching about challs if i can have synth maps back pls ggg

[whole wind]

I am playing through act 7, and have been reminded of all the things i hate about act 2

[bleak quiver]

there was one that was waves with ruin 2 for 95, but someone got it first

the biggest problem with this inscribed sniping shit is the bots, as soon as something with no "no block" mod it gets posted its insta-sniped

[twin arch]

Granted, but chisels are back

[steel light]

tbh it's shattered shield and reduce recovery ii that worries me, everything else it's just like keepers league

hence i always forgot shatter shield cause it wasn't in keepers

[whole wind]

Am i too stupid to understand the elite ball knowledge here?

[bleak quiver]

i dont really care about anything besides ghost 4, stone circles or survival, since im running no block anyway

[twin arch]

Are ultimatum farmers just looking for the gloves or what

[bleak quiver]

the gloves are 20c

[twin arch]

Do catalysts drop that plentifully

Yeah ok so its not the gloves

[bleak quiver]

helmets and incribeds

[steel light]

i rather the boss doesn't appear, but astrolabe makes him 100% happen on wave 10

[opaque sphinx]

idc about chisels i just wanna search thru 1000 shitty synth items for onslaught boots again

[bleak quiver]

+2 helms are 7div, malev are 20div, reservation arre ~200c, incribeds are always goated

[bleak quiver]

dont you just insta-pop him?

[twin arch]

So you’re fishing for corrupt helms with +2

Regardless of other stats

[steel light]

suffix

[bleak quiver]

yeah, but thats more of a bonus if you are doing inscribed

oh, you are gambling i see

[twin arch]

Oh yeah

For the heist jewelry

Right

Damn

[compact bronze]

I want to combine both to get t1 attack speed and t1 max mana. If i recombinate them like this what would be the outcome?

[steel light]

no, if u astrolabe after 1 or 2 run u'll get boss appears wave 10 no matter what, might as well take the boss drop full stacks nodes

[compact bronze]

will i get all 4 mods or what

[steel light]

only if u're lucky, which u won't be

[bleak quiver]

i meant gambling in running catalists

[steel light]

no, i'm running inscribe

[bleak quiver]

oh, its cuz you linked dextrals, that really confused me

[steel light]

this eventally will make boss appear 100% of the time

it could still drop as a stack from boss

[bleak quiver]

already diched the astrolabe a long time ago

[short prairie]

HCSSF? Slam zerk

[bleak quiver]

he cant drop dextals or sinistrals

[steel light]

nani?

[bleak quiver]

its only vanilla ones

[steel light]

fuck him

[drowsy eagle]

too mainstream

[short prairie]

Slam jugg

[bleak quiver]

the astrolabe is also dogshit

[drowsy eagle]

[bleak quiver]

the only thing that even works with inscribed is dupe, all the other mods besides guaranteed boss dont do anything

[short prairie]

Bone shatter jugg

Bone shatter glad

[twin arch]

Did someone say hcssf

Vaal absolution

[short prairie]

RF

[twin arch]

Or flamecaster

Or srs

Or err uhhh

Glad bleed

[drowsy eagle]

I was thinking about msoz

[grand flint]

i wanna try ssf twin, whats a good skill and ascension? thats kinda easy to make

[bleak quiver]

the vault is fun tho

[steel light]

ok it's not that bad, just need 6 atlas nodes for 100% ulti encounter

[short prairie]

The pattern is: in hcssf you league start by playing characters on the left side and the bottom side of the tree

Once you built up resources then switch to more fragil classes like the top and right side

[bleak quiver]

its the same amount of points btw

[steel light]

just to answer ur question if u're trying to get 2s from 1s+1s, it'll be 33%

[opaque sphinx]

thats a horrible way to go about that

unless ur doing some nnn shit later to continue the craft

[compact bronze]

planning to just profit craft this

[opaque sphinx]

then u do suffixes or prefixes first

generally prefixes

[drowsy eagle]

can you make bonkshatter better for clearing, it kinda suck at breach hive

[compact bronze]

can you elaborate more on this?

[short prairie]

[compact bronze]

im new to recombinating

[short prairie]

Switch to earthquake @drowsy eagle

[opaque sphinx]

get 3 prefixes or 3 suffixes first then do the other half of the item

starting with 1 prefix 1 suffix means neither side will be craftable to get mods on

except for very few specific crafts

[short prairie]

If you are playing ssf then you don’t even need to worry about being tanky

Just play whatever you want

Hcssf is only fun if you enjoy challenges more than gearing up and collection

I like normal ssf cuz I can do whatever

[dark sequoia]

I play SSF in trade league. 🤪

[short prairie]

You should ask ggg to migrate you to ssf then

[dark sequoia]

You can do that? :D

[short prairie]

Nope

[dark sequoia]

Aw

[rancid sluice]

i really wanna try ssf srs sometime but i know ill run out of patience and just jump ship

[short prairie]

[rancid sluice]

everytime im playing a build with 27 uniques and im struggling to cap something im just like f this i should roll all rares in ssf

[twin arch]

heh

Just use jewels smh,.,

[opaque sphinx]

does this count atlas effect

[short prairie]

Question: if I have storm shroud with 100% chance to avoid shock, and then use the replica block jewel which increase chance to be shocked, do I still get shock?

[opaque sphinx]

like can i roll an 80% map and its fine

or do i need to 8 mod it over 100%

[compact bronze]

how many prefix and suffix can i add in a magic item?

[opaque sphinx]

1/1

[short prairie]

Ofc

[cosmic reef]

1

[compact bronze]

okay

[bleak quiver]

no, it would need to be something lie "reduced chance to be shocked" instead of avoid

avoid and be stuck are opossites, avoid shocked and be shocked are not

[drowsy eagle]

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[bleak quiver]

and someone got hacked lmao

[short prairie]

so the replica block jewel is basically free block

[opaque sphinx]

bruh it just took me like 4 mins to figure out where the fuck to put an elderslayer map

[short prairie]

[opaque sphinx]

i right clicked it so many times being like "wheres the slot!?!?"

[short prairie]

They are just like regular maps bro

[rancid sluice]

the top end of the atlas is not very intuitive

[opaque sphinx]

well i figured that out now

[short prairie]

You can put them anywhere now

And you can roll diff slayers with blessings

Instead of orb of horizons

[gritty garnet]

yeah ui in any corner is automatically not intuitive

[opaque sphinx]

bruh where my mirage

[short prairie]

Gone

She ate the portal

[opaque sphinx]

what da helly she eated is

it

[bleak quiver]

if its not invisibe, its gone

[opaque sphinx]

?????

[bleak quiver]

ive had it invisible sometimes

[short prairie]

Ye

[bleak quiver]

and one time i closed the window and clicked a option and she just stopped and my mirage was gone

[gritty garnet]

I've had the portal not show the graphic but the frame still be floating around

[drowsy eagle]

what kind of build uses a single impenetrable shrine

[short prairie]

If you walk closer to it it usually back to normal

[opaque sphinx]

wtf lol

[short prairie]

Exposed

[opaque sphinx]

im use dia shrine

[drowsy eagle]

wait is that diamond

[opaque sphinx]

yerp

https://pobb.in/aQnLyEy-faW4

[short prairie]

Where’s your 11 links

[opaque sphinx]

wot

[drowsy eagle]

uh I have brain frogs

[short prairie]

Delirium frogs

[drowsy eagle]

Delirium frogs vs Mirage frogs

[short prairie]

= frog of war

Ok not that funny

[dark sequoia]

My favorite build this league has been Skysunder Leap Slam of Groundbreaking Perfect Agony Ignite with 'Your Travel Skills Crit every 3rd Use'

[native token]

nightmare maps are way to rare.

[short prairie]

are you farming ubers

[dark sequoia]

But the best way to get damage on it has been ward stacking with celestial mathematics and that's probably gutted next league

[native token]

yes

[native token]

https://poeladder.com/uniques?user=Casie0046-1457&status=active&ladderIdentifier=ssf_mirage&isPoe2=false&grouping=Uber&display=missing

[short prairie]

starforge

[atomic crane]

Buy me this ty

[short prairie]

you have osin yet?

[atomic crane]

Noh Lycia bloodline is good enough

[short prairie]

never settle

[atomic crane]

I'm broke

[bleak quiver]

fix it then

[atomic crane]

You fix it

[weary burrow]

is it normal to get 3 locks in 3 nights

[rancid sluice]

my mantra is always settle

[weary burrow]

i cant get away with this right

[atomic crane]

I made 120d yesterday nightmare boss rush

Fortress is so comfy

[native token]

i bossrush citadel

its not so comfy

[atomic crane]

Used to do ziggurat

So not worth it

[weary burrow]

ow

[atomic crane]

That fight takes forever

[weary burrow]

f that

[native token]

Ive no other option

[short prairie]

citadel boss so annoying

mappers finally got me purple juice

[twin arch]

ourple

[hard cliff]

owned https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1sls2dj/viznizs_character_dies_of_a_heart_attack_in_the/

[short prairie]

he's still in exarch arena btw

after 20 minutes

[twin arch]

Why didnt he logout macro that

[drowsy eagle]

nobody ever died in menagerie

[twin arch]

Calling vizniz a nobody is kinda rude he has a lot of subs

[hard cliff]

hello

[hard cliff]

that's an exploit

[short prairie]

you lose the beast if you log out macro

[livid quarry]

he sets the beast free if u lose

[hard cliff]

goodbye doggy

[tranquil sedge]

logout macros are not exploits

they're entirely sanctioned by ggg 😄

[hard cliff]

that's why this game is dog shit

gotta balance around cheaters so everything is just one shot or nothing

gg

https://youtu.be/aBySx65LCLo

[tranquil sedge]

yea, it's not cheating

[hard cliff]

If we're playing Monopoly and you draw a fine card then you declare actually I'm not playing for the next 5 Seconds then come back to the game to skip it you are cheating

same concept

it's an irrelevant discussion though

loggers know they're cheating

[tranquil sedge]

not liking something doesn't make it cheating

[hard cliff]

my opinion on it is irrelevant

[short prairie]

wdf

ban carn

MB + svalinn

[tranquil sedge]

then why are you even talking

if you have nothing useful to say you could just shut up

and nothing would happen to the world 😄

[hard cliff]

I'm stating a fact

not my fault you can't emotionally handle it

[tranquil sedge]

im starting to understand why people block you

[short prairie]

hahahahah inspiration back to back to back to back to back to back

[tranquil sedge]

i shall join them

[short prairie]

poor ben

[hard cliff]

get started

[short prairie]

i think only piragon bans others

when he's drunk

[tranquil sedge]

i gave him benefit of the doubt before but im realizing he probably just has brain damage

[tough cove]

the funny part is hardcore is partially balanced around the existance of logout macros

[tranquil sedge]

its just a stupid cycle

make game with oneshots > dont ban people for using macros > now u can just keep making more oneshots > people keep using macros

[hard cliff]

they had to make an entirely new game to fix the issue

though it does suck but that's a lot of reasons

mostly they just hate poe 1 lol

[tranquil sedge]

that said, even if logout macros didn't exist, there's nothing impressive about hardcore in this game

because until server issues are no longer an issue, its just a joke of a gamemode

same is true of any game that has hardcore gamemodes which you can lose if servers take a nap

[stuck phoenix]

If GGG wanted logout macros gone they'd just make people's characters keep their instance active for 5 seconds after logout

Bam

Everyone dies

[tranquil sedge]

it would be easy to fix for sure

but they can't be bothered

[stuck phoenix]

False

They don't want to

[tranquil sedge]

it just is pure laziness on their part

[stuck phoenix]

No

[opaque sphinx]

i dont see issue, if u dont like it just dont use it

[brazen rune]

hello guys

can someone help me ?

[opaque sphinx]

i dont like it, so when i play gauntlet i dont use it

simple as

[tranquil sedge]

if there weren't leaderboards and race events sure

but there are, so that logic doesn't fly

[hard cliff]

it affects how the game is balanced

[stuck phoenix]

Since you haven't specified with what, nobody can even attempt to help you.

[brazen rune]

i have one problem with my passives tree

[brazen rune]

fair

[rocky glade]

So these kinds of deaths are what I called inevitable deaths, sooner or later you will have to die thanks to graphics glitch or textures taking too long to load
In my case I died alot to unloaded textures of ground DoTs/those rare mobs that leaves explosion on death just because the map refuses to load those textures beforehand

[tranquil sedge]

it doesn't matter if you don't choose to, fact is game is balanced around using them

so at best you are good enough that it doesn't matter to you

at worst, you're just gimping yourself

[brazen rune]

ok

https://pobb.in/DvYN1kSDAGOB

im using this build

[opaque sphinx]

i mean if ur competing then ur already signing urself up to do shit thats offmeta/gamebreaking/unfun

[brazen rune]

when i change to the ''early to midgame' passives tree

[tranquil sedge]

even if you aren't competing

[opaque sphinx]

so i dont see how downloading a 30mb macro is any dif in that case

[tranquil sedge]

the game design still exists in the base game

[hard cliff]

yeah it looks impossible to get this game totally clean for hardcore with so much going on server side

[brazen rune]

some passive has changed

[rocky glade]

There is nothing that can prevent these deaths

[tranquil sedge]

-# its also probably like two lines of AHK anyway lol

[brazen rune]

i though that was because he added one large cluster

but i aadded

and nothing changed

[rocky glade]

Like even PoE 2 has these types of bullshit deaths and their clarity game is much better than here

[hard cliff]

wasn't talking about a macro

[opaque sphinx]

im confused what the overall convo is about ngl i played a league and then hopped in chat

[hard cliff]

living the dream

[tranquil sedge]

probably doesn't matter much at all tbh

[opaque sphinx]

(meaning i hopped in chat with brain dmg)

[tranquil sedge]

enjoy league

[stuck phoenix]

Logout macros. Started because of a hc death

With the response, should've logged out

[opaque sphinx]

silly boy thats not what happens when we play this game

[tranquil sedge]

are you asking why those masteries are blue color

[opaque sphinx]

it was a great game overall i promise

[brazen rune]

yeah

with different stats

[tranquil sedge]

those are runegrafts

[opaque sphinx]

10/10 team

[tranquil sedge]

you first take the mastery then you buy a runegraft and apply it on the mastery

which replaces it with some new stuff

[hard cliff]

I won a game of tf2 payload both ways then went to bed

[tranquil sedge]

they are consumable - if you use them, that's it, you can remove it later but you won't get it back

[rocky glade]

I think that GGG should turn Logout marco into a mechanic that can be implemented ingame
Like an omen, reaching a life threshold would teleport you back to your Hideout

[stuck phoenix]

Can't do two runegrafts though

[hard cliff]

sixty div omen

[stuck phoenix]

How about no

[tranquil sedge]

sounds far better than macro

[opaque sphinx]

i mean if they wanted to explicitly endorse it all they have to do is enable pause in boss arenas

[brazen rune]

soo?

[rocky glade]

If they can't fix the graphics loading bug they should compensate people with this

[tranquil sedge]

not making it against tos IS endorsing it as far as a player is concerned

[brazen rune]

the problem is in the build ?

[tranquil sedge]

that's how it works, as much as anyone wants to believe otherwise

[bleak quiver]

game is really trying to fuck over my data....

[tranquil sedge]

if its not against rules, and its widespread enough, then its being encouraged

[opaque sphinx]

well i mean yeah but if they enabled pause in boss arena it would effectively stop logout macro from even needing to exist

[tranquil sedge]

ye they're just refusing to pick a side

[opaque sphinx]

but they specifically disable it there

[tranquil sedge]

like i said, laziness

[opaque sphinx]

yer

[stuck phoenix]

Oh wait no I'm just silly

You can have both

Carry on

They're different so it's fine

[woeful hare]

is anyone doing double strike of momentum?

[opaque sphinx]

probably not no

[tranquil sedge]

the super deep delvers are

[opaque sphinx]

isnt that ambi?

[zealous flax]

Bro have people here seen zuko in the new avatar movie

[opaque sphinx]

ur a new avatar movie

[woeful hare]

i found 3 builds for it but they are all insanely different and i have no clue what stats im even looking for

[steel light]

srev what scarabs do people use for harvest now, and do people farm harvest with other stuffs like beyond?

[tranquil sedge]

doubling, 2x lineage, 2x atziri/uber atziri frag

[zealous flax]

https://tenor.com/view/reari-dog-barking-koreaboomina-bblmina-gif-24010279

[tranquil sedge]

and no

u only want to do harvest not waste time dicking around with other mechanics

get in, do harvest, check mirage and do havest mirage, get out

nothing else at all

[opaque sphinx]

^^ but i also use corn

[tranquil sedge]

corn is noob bait

skip it

[opaque sphinx]

corn is great fu

[brazen rune]

🧐

[tranquil sedge]

probably gimping ur profit/hr by 50% or more

if you use that

[opaque sphinx]

how

[steel light]

what scarabs? doubling, corn, bloodline? i'll try 5 corn first

[tranquil sedge]

you take way too fucking long to kill the bosses

straight up not worth

[opaque sphinx]

???

[zealous flax]

DADDY zuko

[bleak quiver]

noob spotted

[opaque sphinx]

they dont take that long to me

[tranquil sedge]

there's nothing to argue about here bro

cornu is bait this league

its just not worth

[steel light]

i'm cws, so srev should be right

[opaque sphinx]

for cws for sure

[tranquil sedge]

no, for any build

[opaque sphinx]

but even on my evis glad i was doing the bosses fast

[tranquil sedge]

it doesn't matter

your dps isn't the problem

its the shitty phases

[steel light]

i'll do 5 corns and suffer, what are the last 2 frags, mortals?

[tranquil sedge]

and the yellow boss especially

his dumbass ambush

[opaque sphinx]

takes a while to figure how to get them to phase swap fast but its not that bad

[tranquil sedge]

kira

they're just not worth doing

you can if you enjoy it

but from div/hr point of view, its giga self-gimp

[zealous flax]

\

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-dying-laughing-donnell-rawlings-gif-14803903

[opaque sphinx]

idk i genuinely made more/hr with it

but im also not a giga blaster

i roll maps slow and do shit inefficient

[tranquil sedge]

hm div/hr were you at

[opaque sphinx]

was making 30-40

[tranquil sedge]

with cornu?

[opaque sphinx]

yer

[tranquil sedge]

wtf tech do you have that others dont

coz nobody i know thinks cornu is worth using this league

30+ d/hr is doable just fine even without cornu

[opaque sphinx]

?? iunno

for most bosses i just dragged them to center arena before i blast them

[tranquil sedge]

i tried cornu and made like half the div/hr i was getting without it

so i gave up

[opaque sphinx]

and they swapped phases almost insta

[tranquil sedge]

and sage was minting like 40d/hr without it too

weirdge

[opaque sphinx]

idk

[short prairie]

...

[blazing nymph]

Step 1 of Ultimate Profit Strat: be kira

[short prairie]

they are all on amulets

[opaque sphinx]

my avg was like 2.5-3d profit/map and 4-5min map time

basically just ran rancours and bosses

[tranquil sedge]

i can try again with cornu later this week ig

not optimistic but still better to try and be sure

[umbral crag]

Essence is underrated

[ebon tendon]

The fubgun

[umbral crag]

Just a ton of clicking

[opaque sphinx]

give it a shot i think u will be surprised

[rancid sluice]

ive been on stacked decks for like two weeks dont talk to me about clicking

[steel light]

tell me what are the frags needed, doubling, bloodline, what are the last 3? 👀

[tranquil sedge]

who said bloodline

wat

[opaque sphinx]

not bloodline

no

lineage

[tranquil sedge]

^ the 1c scarab not the 500c one

[steel light]

ok what else other than doubling

[umbral crag]

I was printing 40-50d/hr on essence lmao

[tranquil sedge]

yea essence runners minted this league

[opaque sphinx]

honestly everything prints this league

[umbral crag]

Last night i hit a 80d/hr run coz rng decided to be nice

[opaque sphinx]

ground loot is really good which means less people farming tile loot and ess/beast etc

means that shit worth more

[tranquil sedge]

economy always self corrects yep

[opaque sphinx]

except expedition

the only thing holding it together is jackpot drops and flask

[umbral crag]

I paired essence with betrayal, dropped the mb card and full set of the 10d card from grav within the same hour

Almost nutted

[opaque sphinx]

the actually mechanic itself is kinda useless this league

[tranquil sedge]

expedition has been nerfed constantly

no buffs added in return

[opaque sphinx]

yer

[tranquil sedge]

gwenenn has been dead content for ages and they're too lazy to fix that even with a half-assed bandaid

[opaque sphinx]

rog good week 1 for weapons and minion helms
gwennen never good
dannig only good when the others are good
tujen not good nerfed again

[tranquil sedge]

rog is useless after a few days and breach tree/gold gamba/async trade compete with him

and yea tujen nerf nerf nerf

[rancid sluice]

full mirage maps actually doing rituals stacked deck can net you close to 2 div a map without bonus drops

[tranquil sedge]

ye stacked deck with cloister is pretty good

[split maple]

sad thats in the end 8div/h coz them decks are horrendous to pick up 😄

[tranquil sedge]

like 15d/hr or more profit

[tranquil sedge]

nah even casual cloister like 15d/hr now i think if u just zoom

[opaque sphinx]

i did a lot of big booms this league and spent maybe 600 tijen currency? how many div u think i got raw

[tranquil sedge]

maybe 2-3

[split maple]

yea i am making a bad joke

[tranquil sedge]

with how badly he's been nerfed

[opaque sphinx]

i whs bruh i got 1

[tranquil sedge]

oh
whoosh

[opaque sphinx]

wish*

my 26th reroll or some shit gave me a div and i was like aw hell yeah

500+ rolls later still no second one and im like dafuq

[tranquil sedge]

i was a hardcore logbook fan

[onyx adder]

I understand the timeless jewel from exped is p good money in trade this league

[tranquil sedge]

but they just killed all reasons to run them before this league, over the past few leagues

[opaque sphinx]

yeah

[onyx adder]

If u get a decent seed

[tranquil sedge]

this league at least the expensive stuff can make it ok

[onyx adder]

They dont feel very common tho

[steel light]

how many shard or mirror along the way?

[opaque sphinx]

exped has olroth boots, the helm, the flask, the timeless, and just basic ward flask all as jackpot drops

[onyx adder]

And good seeds dont grow on trees

Lul

[opaque sphinx]

like the ground loot from the mechanic is good

just not the mechanic itself

[opaque sphinx]

big 0

[steel light]

this is fine right? just eater altar heist box and all harvest

[opaque sphinx]

if not doing corn yeah

if corn u took too many nodes on right

[short prairie]

lmao

viziniz just one shot uber exarch

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/misscanon-misscornon

corn

[short prairie]

in gauntlet

[opaque sphinx]

i was about to say that aint shit

but alright i bow

doing it in gauntlet is big boi balls

[halcyon flicker]

sure game. 20k latency into timeout during 5ways on 3 different realms. i try a singapore one just for shits and giggles with 174ms latency and I have no issues whatsoever

[short prairie]

@split maple highwayman not needed after all

to get leech

[opaque sphinx]

ur a highwayman

[split maple]

can go for rarity manifolds now

[short prairie]

im always a highwayman

[short prairie]

dont have one

[tranquil umbra]

I had to use fogs to get leech on my cluster while still only investing 5 passives

[short prairie]

spell leech is kind of annoying to get ngl

it's like ggg trying to gatekeep you from leeching life with spells

[split maple]

well es leech is just on tree for spell dmg

but yea life leech takes work

mana leech aint a thing :/

[steel light]

this should be right, right? 👀

[short prairie]

wheres risk

[steel light]

i don't take risks

[tranquil umbra]

tf is this

harvest??

[steel light]

yes

[short prairie]

eater pack juicing for altars

get quant

[tranquil umbra]

why are you empowered miraging harvest

[short prairie]

and then harvest

[short prairie]

prob 8 mods

[tranquil umbra]

ok but like just use a normal map

[short prairie]

doesnt take risks

so miraged guarantees harvest

[steel light]

i just open the map and notice one thing, i forgot to harvest astrolabe

[dark kite]

i was doing harvest on jungle valley and noticed that the harvest spawned in the mirage zone every single time

[steel light]

thank god harvest spawned 😰

[final owl]

atoll is like that too, is the map i use for harvest

usually right near the entrance as well

as a result, wouldn't use full mirage maps for harvest.

[dark kite]

i did atoll for ultimatum and that wasnt super consistent

[final owl]

i think i got a harvest not in mirage maybe 1/20 atolls

maybe i will try JV if i torture myself with any more harvest

[steel light]

this doesn't matter for harvest right?

[dark kite]

ive noticed theres a filter sound set some people on youtube use that has a soft jingling sound

does anyone know what im talking about and if so where can i find it

[final owl]

genuinely no idea but i always select it unless there is something better

like ridan spawn or whatever

[short prairie]

gg

cluster crafted

say bye bye to the highwayman

[rough field]

It does gz

[dense rock]

sadist sounds so stronk for my voidforge dude

[split maple]

senses now i am getting awful judgy

[rough field]

Dat pack size is additive to maps pack size

[split maple]

how do you have fraced fuel the fight cluster

and unfraced sadist

[short prairie]

idk

sadist doesnt really work on my bv chief, i only get 20%

from ignite

not the full potential there

[split maple]

cant you get some 1-2 added cold/light dmg to spells somewhere

[short prairie]

avatar of fire

[dense rock]

jeeeesus... trinity support almost doubles my dps

[short prairie]

ye trinity is insane

so does unholy trinity

[dense rock]

quite easy to stay at max stacks too 😛

[short prairie]

you only need 2 elements

[dense rock]

i have absolutely no control over my elemental dmg

[dark kite]

what anoints do you run on blighted maps

[opaque sphinx]

teal

[short prairie]

voidforge gamer

[dense rock]

first time i give it a go 😛

gotta say, feels better than slapping oro's on a dude fresh out of acts

[short prairie]

volatile vaal

[dark kite]

does your atlas apply to blighted maps? what scarabs should i use?

[full kraken]

yay finally capped my sulphite capacity

[dense rock]

Is there any "MUST DO" stuff in the delve?

[split maple]

no, cannot use scarbs

[full kraken]

pushing to depth 600 now, I wonder if I can hit 700

[split maple]

can use sac/mortal frags for quant

[dense rock]

I have transmuted all my delve sulphite in to ore the entire league 😄

[dark kite]

ah ok, for some reason it lets me put them in

[full kraken]

I might need to swap my FF/FF jewels over to Fortitude and give up a bunch of DPS to hit depth 700

[short prairie]

wdf

[native token]

@split maple gamer

[short prairie]

how did i craft this

[split maple]

sadist weight is sadistic

@native token gamer

[dense rock]

pure vibes, no thoughts involved at all 😄

[short prairie]

ig im extremely lucky this leag

[native token]

@split maple how you doing

[short prairie]

only these 2 nodes work with bv chief

blaksmith is from armor smol cluster

[split maple]

Getting skillchecked by hitting reforges on slayer clusters

You?

[native token]

uniq ladder hell

[dense rock]

would vaal pact be overkill for me?
Without vaal pact i have 5k hp and 1,5k leech rate
With vaal pact i have 5k hp and 9k leech rate

Or would this just kill me to poison or something?

[split maple]

Girl wtf

[short prairie]

time to grind for replica baited breath

[opaque sphinx]

116% quant elderslayer loot

[rose quail]

I don't remember if this was them or someone else but I remember several leagues ago someone got all uniques.

[opaque sphinx]

[native token]

https://tenor.com/view/in-love-love-akiyama-yukari-yukari-akiyama-gup-gif-11309678661702539493

[lucid kiln]

where is the rest

[opaque sphinx]

what do u mean

thats it

[lucid kiln]

thats my point

[rose quail]

I remember they heavily farmed Blight back then

[lucid kiln]

heinous loot

[short prairie]

i have a second cluster crafted

[lucid kiln]

[final owl]

wow 6 splinters, you'll have a maven writ in no time..

[split maple]

I have been waiting for good Grand Spectrum lab for entire league now

[native token]

only gonna happen with tributes

[split maple]

Thinking they changed generation a tad since almost every bloody day it's a good emperor layout

[dense rock]

STOP BREAKING PROBABILITY YOU TAFT FUCK

[opaque sphinx]

it honestly doesn't even get better if i hit alt

[rose quail]

That reminds me, which chests exactly grand spectrum now come from?

[split maple]

From puzzle room chests in room1 of Merc lab

But there wasn't a single such lab this leg

[rose quail]

[atomic crane]

Where my pof sublime

[dense rock]

At that point your char has somehow gained hidden -500% quant 😄

[short prairie]

?

how do you get grand spectrums

[split maple]

Wait for day with good puzzle in room1 Merc then just spam it

Like 1 gs per 20

[opaque sphinx]

[short prairie]

spam meaning

kill all mobs?

[split maple]

Enter room1, do puzzle, leave lab

[rose quail]

No, it's in a chest

[split maple]

Repeat

[opaque sphinx]

no it comes from puzzle chest

[atomic crane]

How much phys max hit is gud

[rose quail]

Used to be from final room but they shifted it

[dense rock]

I am getting more/better loot from my alch n go mesa bosses 😄

[opaque sphinx]

frfr

[final owl]

more is good. even more is better

[short prairie]

oh god

[dense rock]

depends on context

[short prairie]

i shouldve picked up all the offering to the goddesses then