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[full kraken]

and I can cast about 6 lightning warps per second :3

[onyx adder]

He can stay

[slim idol]

Woah man 6 lightning warps a second

Whats next we move around with fowb

[full kraken]

LW is faster

[slim idol]

Dont let this man near a wall

[final owl]

or idk.. any other movement skill. yes. that is obviously wildly controversial

[full kraken]

I would say if you compare me against raw movespeed I clock in at around a 500% movespeed build give or take

not the fastest but plenty fast

[sage falcon]

100 message user putting up a 100k message user performance

[slim idol]

Shut up random

[onyx adder]

He has a way to go to get on my level

[slim idol]

Go ego 33eer

[onyx adder]

He shows promise tho

[final owl]

he will examine your base movespeed closely, and ye shall be found wanting

[slim idol]

Its 3.28

The game is piss easy

[sage falcon]

you're 5x that, im well aware lo

[slim idol]

And u cant even make a char that kills 2 mobs a minute with more than 30 ms

[full kraken]

I regretfully only have a 12% movespeed roll on my helm 💀

[onyx adder]

Hey guys im internet famous

[calm valve]

anyone else having problems with the game's brightness?

[dark kite]

im a 50k andy movin like a 50

[slim idol]

I didnt ask man

[calm valve]

just today it looks like contrast/brightness has been weird asf

[slim idol]

Hi haha

[full kraken]

unfortunately I had to buy out almost the entire market of helms to make that one so eventually the pickings got slim

[final owl]

But we did ask for willers take on everyones movespeed. So don't stop.

[proper zephyr]

I’m currently playing Dark Pact and trying to decide between Occultist and Necromancer.

My main concern with Necromancer is something I’ve run into before with CI builds that rely only on Energy Shield regen. I’m worried about getting one-shot when opening strongboxes, since I effectively lose all forms of recovery in that moment.

Has anyone experienced this with Necro, or is it manageable?

[slim idol]

Whats ur irl move speed

U give me big boy vibes

[dark kite]

i saw that man i know you chatgptd that shit

[proper zephyr]

Is it worth playing oocoltist just to avoid this?

IDGF

[wheat sinew]

Bombastic side eye

[final owl]

letts say 3

[finite quail]

first map after fixing my pc

[proper zephyr]

I am shameleszs

[calm valve]

have u found any solutions so far? im bumping my color brightness in intel commaned center to 33 and it still dark as shit

[slim idol]

That meme is 2 years old

[dark kite]

braincel

[full kraken]

how do you lose all forms of recovery when opening a box?

[proper zephyr]

Because im not hitting anything so no leech

[full kraken]

laptop or box+seperate screen?

[calm valve]

im on a laptop yeah

[slim idol]

Maybe @umbral sandal knows

[wheat sinew]

What meme

I'm just bombastic side eyeing yall

[full kraken]

have you set your hardware screen brightness to max?

[calm valve]

yes I have

its just the game which is dark

[final owl]

tried using a different renderer

[wheat sinew]

Wanna see light ?
Play conc path of endurance

[full kraken]

oh dark pact I see, okay I see what the issue is, so, are you somehow automating it or something and keep losing life while crafting and fiddling with the box?

[thick goblet]

are you low life

[slim idol]

Dont talk to my girl like that bro

What the freak man

Frick

[full kraken]

how dark? take a screenshot and if its the game, then itll look dark to me too, if its your laptop, it will look normal to me

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/osaka-gif-16847513692487855975

the freak..

[slim idol]

Hey haha

[calm valve]

hope this helps, its even worse ingame hold on

[full kraken]

oh good question yeah, I wouldnt have thought of that

[slim idol]

U fw lions?

[full kraken]

that looks pretty normal brightness on my screen tbh

[proper zephyr]

Nah im just an idiot

I had flashbacks from my other character but it wont be an issue this time

[finite quail]

the game looks perfectly fine to me here

[slim idol]

Dont ignore me wtf

[finite quail]

also some areas are actually dark

dungeons and stuff you cant see shit most of the time

unless you're close to it

get used to it

[slim idol]

Man this ehuzz aint worth shit

[full kraken]

yeah, if that looks dark to you, then that is a whole screen issue and not just the game cuz that actually looks on the brighter side to me

[drowsy eagle]

time to build right radius

[final owl]

that screenshot looks fine

[proper zephyr]

I realize my other character had dark whispers and thats why that was such a big propblem

[finite quail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1470841392434774249/1474107595823386846/togif.gif

[calm valve]

its usually much brighter than this idk what I changed, havent touched settings in like 2 leagues

[final owl]

again that looks completely normal / fine here.

[finite quail]

I guess I'll run the black barya I just got

[drowsy eagle]

set bloom to 125%

[tranquil umbra]

yeah something's wrong with your monitor not the game

[calm valve]

oh damn might be a screen issue then

[slim idol]

Nvidia shadder or something bro

[finite quail]

pray for baby belt

pray for abortion belt

[calm valve]

ill look into it thanks guys

[full kraken]

mod chat? more like:

[slim idol]

Yea i mod the Path Of Exile discord

[final owl]

i run all my barya at this point, and ID the belts. the only gamba i indulge in

[crisp obsidian]

Mods are SCP workers?

[finite quail]

lets gooo

[final owl]

all crap so far :I

[slim idol]

I'm very important

[crisp obsidian]

Gamba gamba gamba

[simple stag]

How do i get runescape text

[finite quail]

regedit

[slim idol]

If u were a belt youd be a diamond belt

Only idiots would use you

[finite quail]

runegraft of the angler but you use an actual weapon

[final owl]

yeah only an idiot would use garaunteed crit for any build at any point. This is a solid take.

[slim idol]

Angler lets u have movement speed

[finite quail]

?

[slim idol]

Yo bro u have less clear than conner

That bar is VERY low

[finite quail]

can you explain how angler lets you have movement speed bro

dont just throw it out there and not explain

[slim idol]

Quicksilver Flask

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma-hit-jerma-slap-slap-jerma985-gif-5877194680309495682

dumbass

diamond belt better

[final owl]

ok thanks for the explainer I guess i'm not enough of a PoE nerd to know anything about conners clear.

[stuck phoenix]

Wtf this guy is still going?

And he called someone else jobless?

[slim idol]

Master* to u bud

[stuck phoenix]

Nope

[slim idol]

Yes

Ur a random

[full kraken]

well theyve been actively trolling for awhile now, I dunno how they arent banned yet

[slim idol]

Address me how i ask

[stuck phoenix]

If you want me to, I can change the way I refer to you

[sage falcon]

dang you got the whole squad laughing

[finite quail]

the poe 2 tag gave it away

[slim idol]

Thats exactly what i asked

[stuck phoenix]

Ok idiot.

[final owl]

He's dominating the discord, just to prove a point. We don't know what the point is. Don't think he does either. but on god, he is doing it.

[slim idol]

Thats not what i asked

Now thats just disrespectfull

[stuck phoenix]

Well you said it was

[stuck phoenix]

You asked for it

[slim idol]

I asked u to call me Master :/

[finite quail]

alright lads

oops missping

its time for bed

[inland vortex]

Did updated my win10, was curious wtf did I got cuz everything crashed => github

I reported the issue to Microsoft on 7 March 2026. However, almost 20 days earlier, the game-hacking community had already reversed and publicly discussed it.
So, remember like few weeks ago a bunch of reports on forum/reddit (still happens) related to cleared from divines stashes. Coincidence?

[stuck phoenix]

No

[slim idol]

I think thats what i did

And therefore its what happened

[stuck phoenix]

Well, enough wasting time

[slim idol]

Randoms dont get to decide

[full kraken]

what was the reported issue?

[finite quail]

i didnt understand anything you just tried to talk about

[inland vortex]

KslDump

[full kraken]

could you go into more specifics?

[slim idol]

Fact u dont know who Willer is says alot about ur poe skill level bud

[sage falcon]

the bits per message density is incredible

[inland vortex]

memory reading through microsoft old driver that somehow appeared on last update I think, including extracting credentials

[full kraken]

I havent heard of any zero days in the past few weeks from windows

mind you, the whole npm Axios hack thing and then the whole claude code hack have kinda dominated the news so I wouldnt be surprised if I missed it

[full kraken]

oh brilliant, love that

[final owl]

with 100% certainty windows has extent 0days that have existed for years. They have AI finding them these days.

[slim idol]

More sly and witty comments pls keep them coming

Ur 1v9

[sage falcon]

im here all day

[full kraken]

yes and no, AI also finds a whole lot of nothing a lot of the time, though its... getting less shitty

[sage falcon]

(well, metaphorically. it's late right now.)

[slim idol]

U rly cant stop urself

You're that witty

[sage falcon]

ya

[inland vortex]

extracts credentials from PPL-protected LSASS using only Microsoft-signed components. No exploit is deployed. No driver is loaded. The entire attack chain ships pre-installed with Windows Defender. Microsoft patched the running version (wd\KslD.sys) by nulling out MmCopyMemory, but left the old vulnerable version (drivers\KslD.sys)
meme. Well I doubt that the case for poe that happened few weeks ago, still meme.

[onyx adder]

Doesnt 1v9 mean ur the only competent person in the room

[slim idol]

Yea

Does that change what i meant

[final owl]

i mean one dug up a 27 year old vulnerability in freebsd recently no?

[full kraken]

its sort of a "if you throw a million darts at the target one of them is bound to hit it" kind of issue

a huuuuge amount of FOSS repos atm are being inundated with very low quality "bugfixes" and "bug reports" and "exploit fixes" and etc that turn out to be nothing and hallucinated garbage, sadly

[final owl]

oh sure. I'm talking about Mythos in this case, the model that isn't publicly available, allegedly for this reason primarily

[full kraken]

ah Ive heard about it but havent dug into the news around that yet, is that sort of its whole deal?

[slim idol]

Aight fanboys nuff of u for the remaining weeks

[final owl]

it's supposed to do next level code analysis I guess, unsure if that was the primary goal / use case or just turned out to be tbh. but they have granted access to some open source foundations along with MS etc, apparently because the results it is getting are doing everyone a concern..

[slim idol]

33eer was right

Ur all bad

😭

[full kraken]

I feel like as we get better and better integrating with LSP, where LLMs are able to actually live "see" the feedback of code and do stuff like instantly bring up what devs can see in the IDE, we're gonna see another big sudden jump up in efficacy

Anywho, thats enough off topic chat though!

[wheat sinew]

Herald dmg isn't my damage right so I can't convert the type right ?

[full kraken]

you can

its just neither spell nor attack damage

[wheat sinew]

hmm

[full kraken]

converting HoT damage to cold to make it freeze is the OG autobomber tech

[wheat sinew]

I see if I fully convert my herald of ash dmg from fire to chaos

Does this mean I get pops

[final owl]

with one easy trick? just a simple osin?

[wheat sinew]

Well more like red nightmare

• lycia

[onyx adder]

Sry what do u want to do

[full kraken]

herald of ash damage is Burning damage

[onyx adder]

The answer is going to be no

For one of many reasons

[full kraken]

so you gotta convert burning damage to chaos somehow, is that even possible

[onyx adder]

But ur response will inform me as to which reason to pull out

[wheat sinew]

Was thinking of ways to get pops outside of unspeakable gifts

[dark kite]

that ring, but only for ignite

[wheat sinew]

Cuz heavy strike feels like auto attack and having some pops can save that

[onyx adder]

Herald of ash doesnt pop

[final owl]

outside of unspeakable gifts / oriaths?

[full kraken]

2x Foulborn Witchbane

[wheat sinew]

Can't use oriath cuz mb + life flask

[final owl]

ah

become a chieftan?

[onyx adder]

And the overkill burn is not convertible, as it is a dot, and also does not depend on the underlying damage type

[full kraken]

yeah wont work, its specifically burning dmg not ignite (same damage type as RF for example)

[wheat sinew]

Is there an FF/FF set for that ?

[dark kite]

yeah i know it wont work for hoa

[full kraken]

@wheat sinew is foulborn witchbane not an option?

[rose quail]

Call of the Void + Hoi + HoA

[final owl]

i actually have no idea. but i guess there should be?

[wheat sinew]

Hmmm right could farm that

[rose quail]

With ignite

[wheat sinew]

Sadly gotta use helicals cuz str stacking

[full kraken]

oh GSF

[rose quail]

Ah so no rings either

[dark kite]

hinekora jewels spensy

[onyx adder]

So unless u cant do fire damage for some strange reason u can literally just equip the gem and turn it on and u will get herald burndowns on any hit build

[full kraken]

@wheat sinew what about just abusing infernal cry

[wheat sinew]

I can't do fire dmg cuz alber9ns

[rose quail]

I assume chest not an option obviously right?

[onyx adder]

Oh ur str stacking

[wheat sinew]

Was thinking about that but needs many cool down uses cuz that gets used instantly

[onyx adder]

Whats ur weapon

[wheat sinew]

Eventuality rod with more dmg/ecoms

[full kraken]

might be fine with second wind on it tbh

keeping 2 uses in the bank on it prolly is enough to sustain it when mapping if you arent omega fast

[rose quail]

Asenaths? Oldies tech

[wheat sinew]

Hmmmge could slot that in

[opaque sphinx]

damn bruh took 20 kills for first melding of this batch to drop

[wheat sinew]

Losing out on 20% of the glove dmg

[opaque sphinx]

er first flesh

[thick goblet]

did u finish the rod or are you still in veiled exalt hell

[wheat sinew]

Still in hell

[full kraken]

do you need that dmg when mapping tho

[wheat sinew]

I got 5 failed rods that I will recomb

[rose quail]

What's the skill you are using?

[wheat sinew]

Heavy strike of trarthus

[full kraken]

or can you just swap gloves for mapping vs bossing

[wheat sinew]

I could try glove swapping low key

[rose quail]

Clusters?

[onyx adder]

Arent u using this item that turns off ur fire damage

[wheat sinew]

Working on it need refractoriness dogs

[onyx adder]

Did i miss 30 seconds ago

[opaque sphinx]

nvm 2nd flesh on kill 22

[wheat sinew]

Wait asentaths isn't my dmg is it ?

[opaque sphinx]

we back

[onyx adder]

Infernal cry and asenaths are both ur damage

[wheat sinew]

Fuck

I could convert fire dmg to chaos then I suppose that's the play

[onyx adder]

And scale with any applicable damage increases

[wheat sinew]

Assuming for infernal that will work

[onyx adder]

Yea

[gritty garnet]

what are you even trying to accomplish by doing this

[onyx adder]

U cant convert herald of ash tho

[onyx adder]

Trying to make heavy strike not suck

[dense rock]

thats impossible

[onyx adder]

Big ask

[wheat sinew]

Trying to make it feel less like auto attack xD

[rose quail]

Well I've seen it work on Elementalist

[wheat sinew]

But it's getting there

[gritty garnet]

put it on general's cry

[onyx adder]

I appreciate ur belt slot is always taken

[full kraken]

it is yes

[halcyon prawn]

first tainted catalyst applied got 20% on the exact one i needed, wow

[onyx adder]

So my suggestion is click shrines on atlas and just always hit gloom shrine

[rose quail]

Are you Avatar of Fire?

[full kraken]

hell ya brudda

[onyx adder]

Ez

[onyx adder]

Reppie alberons

[wheat sinew]

It is funny tho, going from full screen clear to oh this pack dies but I need to be in their face xS

[wheat sinew]

Lmfao that's my current solution

[full kraken]

Im confused what is your damage type you wanna do

[rose quail]

Bruh. Making everything difficult

[dense rock]

cant you just explody jewel and call it a day?

[wheat sinew]

That's in progress but rather expensive to hit with refracting orbs

[rose quail]

Ye, I think jewel is the call.

[onyx adder]

He refuses to use jewel

[gritty garnet]

ag gravebind explode shit

[onyx adder]

I guess cost

[rose quail]

What ascendancy?

[gritty garnet]

witchbane needs curse on hit gloves imo

[wheat sinew]

More like it's failing to hit the right cluster

[wheat sinew]

Got ass mark on hit

[gritty garnet]

that's not going to help explode

[wheat sinew]

So that could work as well

[full kraken]

that wont work sadly

[opaque sphinx]

2rd flesh on 25

3rd*

[wheat sinew]

Good odds damn

[onyx adder]

Chaos large isnt that bad for str stacker tho

[onyx adder]

Like the smalls arent dead

[wheat sinew]

Not badge just need to ugh fog this

[onyx adder]

So u dont need to fog it

Just roll a large

[wheat sinew]

Yeah, I need the cluster to hit chaos from staves

[onyx adder]

What u want from staves

[gritty garnet]

overlord?

[onyx adder]

Thats worth all this effort plus discord conversation

[wheat sinew]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/pl78865/character/sokratis12GR-6608/GSFSoFoStacking?i=23

[wheat sinew]

Yuup

[rose quail]

Do you really need Life flask?

[split maple]

hey a lot better convo than this not enough ms shite from earlier

[rose quail]

Can't you use Warcry for healing?

[gritty garnet]

you're already right next to fortify on tree anyway

[full kraken]

okay, damn, Im prolly gonna take +rank of the room, but Im curious what yall would take in this scenario, fully specced into incursion with scarab of timelines

[wheat sinew]

Need it until I hit lvl 100

[gritty garnet]

even leap slam fort will probably work up to a certain point

[full kraken]

I dont have corrupt room on the map yet, but shrine would be in the corner which is worst spot if I take the swap, but shrine+corrupt room is way way more valuable if you hit it, but only 7 incursions left after this room

[wheat sinew]

That is so clunky tho, had a pcoc fortify leap slam, that was hell xD

[onyx adder]

Chaos cluster has gotta be better than this rando overlord stuff

[tough cove]

i really want to know ho wtheres always 1 tiny mob in a ritual that survives you carpet bombing the thing 200 times

[onyx adder]

U can convert back when u have enough fogs

[wheat sinew]

Overlord is the main cluster people use but yeah just need to hit the fog and can start rolling on it ez game

But was thinking of other ways just in case they exist

Tried using annihilation support instead of some dmg

But the aoe was miniscule

[onyx adder]

Annihilation is dog shit

[wheat sinew]

Isn't it 15% less max HP than occultist pops

Like 10% vs 25%

[rose quail]

I tried it and it's horrible

[wheat sinew]

It was amazing on ele hit

[full kraken]

what about just stacking as many +additional strike targets as you can lol

[rose quail]

It needs to be the killing hit which is wonk ass

[gritty garnet]

yes, only putting it on minion lets it chain

[signal root]

Does anyone know when will the currency stash tab be on sale again?

[wheat sinew]

Ewww

[gritty garnet]

because the explode's killing blow then counts as minion's killing blow

[rose quail]

I forgot when the previous one was but like 2-3 weeks I think

[wheat sinew]

That's unfortunate then xD

[gritty garnet]

vs the skill that's supported by annihilation's killing blow

[wheat sinew]

The last one was this weekend so in 2-3 weeks

[wheat sinew]

On it, tried using ancestral cry automation for extras xDD

Jun x Delirium x Conquerors jail atm

[final owl]

is this for gamba or are you selling unid

[wheat sinew]

Thanks for the suggestions pals

[rose quail]

What about just drop onslaught flask for mapping?

[wheat sinew]

Gonna go with the jewel route as it seems the most sensible solution

[gritty garnet]

yes and put in shockwave

[wheat sinew]

Could could, sirus jail time

Oh shockwave hmmm

[opaque sphinx]

unid im too poor atm

[wheat sinew]

Does it work on strikes ?

[gritty garnet]

idk if you can farm enough elders to get void in ssf

[wheat sinew]

I have 3 voids

Hmmge

[gritty garnet]

then use it and pretend you don't have bad clear

[rose quail]

ngl the biggest complication is alberons

[wheat sinew]

Yeah gonna give it a try, thought it had to be a slam or smth

[gritty garnet]

if it was nobody would be playing cyclone

[wheat sinew]

I mean I can just convert all fire dmg to chaos if that helps

My concern was not knowing if hoa could work

And since it doesn't 💀

[final owl]

thats fair, but more boring :I

[wheat sinew]

Good thing the new currency allows you to switch between this and the nightmare form at will

[gritty garnet]

the xesht orb?

[rose quail]

How much damage is Iron Fortress? Maybe just chest swap? But ngl I think clusters and cope with flask swap is the route

[onyx adder]

U should weapon swap to binos for clear

[opaque sphinx]

0 flesh in the last 25 kills damn lol

[onyx adder]

[opaque sphinx]

oh wait i have 1 more

[full kraken]

1 out of 12, oh well

[wheat sinew]

About 20% of DPS, could switch it out for chests a rare (that's the next step to be crit immune and shi)

[onyx adder]

Attribute chest wouldnt be far short of that

[opaque sphinx]

[onyx adder]

And then u dont have to use shitty iron fortress

[rose quail]

Catarina chest then?

[wheat sinew]

Not good

[rose quail]

Wdym not good. Just recomb

[wheat sinew]

More like I want perfect chest or brick xD

Slightly high standards on that regard

[split maple]

gonna frac hillocki incr attr?

[onyx adder]

U are currently wearing brick

[wheat sinew]

it's also a lot of tank

[onyx adder]

So i appreciate ur commitment to the bit

[wheat sinew]

Yessir

[vague storm]

Gauntlet done. Managed to get through A10 with no character deaths. There were a few close calls though.

[wheat sinew]

Frac end charge crit

[wheat sinew]

Let's goooo

Congrats mate

[split maple]

cmon frac hillocki essence spam for pdr

[vague storm]

Ty, feels good 😛 I love a good challenge run.

[wheat sinew]

Hear me out frac end crit, veil orb spam till suffix attr

Got like 200 veil orbs

XD

[full kraken]

nice 3/10 on HoT tho yummy

[wheat sinew]

Gonna be out tonight and tomorrow I'll try to see if I can log in and gib the mb in gs

[wheat sinew]

Bombastic results

[onyx adder]

Gz etc

[wheat sinew]

Oh yeah esm soon tm I'll have 10 end charges on that character and I'll complete the dream char of 10 end charges + able to do crit alberron setup, yippie

Gonna farm UUE for sublimes trust

[split maple]

well sokrate dont forget to stack some strength on the side 😄

[wheat sinew]

All g, will make it work trust

Just needs levels

[candid yew]

Does scourge arrow of the menace get additional pods with snipers mark?

[full kraken]

I couldnt figure out what to socket in my mainhand slot so I just level 3 additional gems there XD

So between that and maloney setup on swap I can level 12 gems at once without penalty

[wheat sinew]

Automation +++

Phase run or smth

[final owl]

I am guilty of being too lazy to buy new gems to level in free slots

[full kraken]

unfortunately with global 95% reduced duration, not many buffs do much for me

[wheat sinew]

How much cdr

[dense rock]

I solved this problem by doing cwdt-cry-golem-wave of conviction-curse-portal 😄

[wheat sinew]

That's a setup and a half xD

[dense rock]

thats a "i have a free 6link with no idea what to do with it" solution

[full kraken]

CWDT golem actually isnt a terrible idea but I think it would still just die

I was debating the potential of how a 3L'd spectre without any investment might perform

[dense rock]

dont think i even get the golem buff considering by the time i summon it, i have allready flickered half a map away

[full kraken]

actually maybe I should consider the uh... aura on dolls option

[dense rock]

Kinda interested in just doing a 6link AG setup to pad POB

[full kraken]

if I use uhh... whatever the hell that aura support is, on spectre dolls, do I have to keep reclicking to activate the aura when the ydie

[cosmic raptor]

hello

[full kraken]

or does it just automatically apply and be active when the doll respawns

cuz maybe I could get myself another aura, thatd be nice actually, dunno what I would pick tho

[wheat sinew]

Companionship + minion life + AG with imbued fortiy

That instead trust

Or switch ag with spectre

[kindred lily]

there's someone still thuggin it out with shield shatter and they've got it up to 3.5m dps in pob

[wheat sinew]

Guardian blessing + matriarch ?

• aura

[vague storm]

I would not say ez, lol. K10 was surprisingly hard. Other hard ones imo were mer and brine king.

[full kraken]

only have a 3L available

[onyx adder]

Golem doesnt have a radius on the buff fyi

[wheat sinew]

That's a 3 l

[full kraken]

the uh, dolls that auto resummon

[wheat sinew]

Any 3l is a 4l effective

[onyx adder]

Other than lightning golem mini aura

Minion in ur bars = u got buff

[final owl]

you mean dark marrionette then

[full kraken]

oh thats right

[onyx adder]

I didnt say ez lul

I said gz

[wheat sinew]

Good job brother, may the stress be away from you

[full kraken]

yeah, is it viable to get AG to be unkillable without any gear or passives and only a 3L for it with imbue putting it to psuedo 4L

[wheat sinew]

Yes

Companionship support

[vague storm]

Oh lol, sorry my brain is fried after gauntlet, lol.

[final owl]

no clue here, I'm not an AG guy. definite maybe

[full kraken]

ah shoot I cant use companionship

[wheat sinew]

Give him some % HP recovery

And he can't die pretty much aside from sirus storms

[wheat sinew]

Minus one

[tranquil sedge]

ag is fun ye

[wheat sinew]

Could go fortify + max life + elemental army

So which ever one you hit on the imbue

[full kraken]

does dark marionette work with guardian blessing

[tranquil sedge]

it does

[blazing spear]

yea

[full kraken]

or do you have to keep reclicking it everytime it respawns

[wheat sinew]

That's their purpose

[gritty garnet]

is this a melee weapon

[dense rock]

i think with 2 or 3 you can have it up forever

[full kraken]

yeah black cane

[gritty garnet]

you need the blessed rebirth or minion def mastery to stagger their deaths

[final owl]

it's on the short list of build things to try. I'll get to em all eventually.. probably.

[full kraken]

I can go with only dark marionnettes summoned yeah

[wheat sinew]

Can also just use 1 imperfect and 1 perfect

[gritty garnet]

you can try general's cry dom blow divine sentinel

[wheat sinew]

Diff health pools

[full kraken]

ah, Im on bottom of tree sadly

[full kraken]

oh interesting combo

to get auras from rares as a micro HH?

[gritty garnet]

aren't they all 288%

[tranquil sedge]

i have this 6l ag setup im pretty sure he's tankier than i am and he's nearly as tanky as me, and he's got a helm with nearby enemies have malediction atm, it's nice 😄

gruthkul's is healing him for like 7k life/sec or smth and thats enough for now

[gritty garnet]

it adds the most checkbox per gem in pob

[tranquil sedge]

if i swapped to a stiched demon + foulborn ghostwrite he prob heals for like 35k life/sec instead

but so far haven't found that necessary

[full kraken]

I was thinking maybe transfigured stone golem

[gritty garnet]

you do want a 4l for autoexert though

[full kraken]

and then just beef it up

and throw enhance on it

[full kraken]

Im phys impale auto bombing with twisters so tbh the auras only main upside is movespeed for me XD

I wish companionship didnt necessitate no other minions

[zealous yarrow]

Can’t wait to get off work just to basically play Poe like a job so I can buy my second dessicated 😃

I’d rather finish my +4 chest atp

[full kraken]

yeah maybe I just rock stone golem of safeguarding tbh

[final owl]

I have 4 challenges to complete and no other clear ideas about what to do. my gloves and amulet are kinda crap but when you can theoretically do all content already it's a bit shrug.

[zealous yarrow]

Beasts have settled right? Might just go farm them instead, I cannot do breach anymore

[full kraken]

and then throw meat shield and enhance on it

[full kraken]

last I looked yellow beasts were as high as 10c now O_o

[cosmic raptor]

wow ben won the gauntlet?

[tranquil sedge]

truly a surprise

[zealous yarrow]

Okay yeah, fuck breach then, I’d rather deal with the dogshit that is yellow beast farming

[zealous yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fork-found-in-kitchen-fork-found-in-kitchen-edit-gif-14425799655335924125

[rose quail]

I do both. Breach for gold, beasts for monies

[zealous yarrow]

Yeah that’s fair, nearly 20 div for a rota now is diabolical

[full kraken]

for the most part I can usually run a delve node without taking any dmg cuz 99% block, but for the rare chance I get whacked, stone golem eating ~18% of the dmg if its a melee hit sounds nice

[rose quail]

Yeah. And volatile in mirage with breach is minimum 200k+

[zealous yarrow]

Plus kingsmarch is cringe now and I have to map for it so I don’t have to worry about that anymore besides my goat rog

[rose quail]

I do Kingsmarch with beasts

[full kraken]

wait maybe unironically I just want chaos golem for the chaos res

like just full on CWDT - Chaos Golem - Enhance

[zealous yarrow]

That reminds me, I’ve failed a 1/3 nn recomb 5 times in a row, if I make it 6 im going to pull an Ivan

The worst part is beastlock awakener jail

[final owl]

I'm kinda glad kingsmarch requires active effort now, because it sucks and i can just not use it.

[zealous yarrow]

Truth nuke

[final owl]

Finally free of forever settlers

[zealous yarrow]

Even tho to have a 17 mil shipment you’d have to gold farm often I enjoyed the passive mirror shards

Technically tattoos are solid money but still, not throwing in ungodly amounts of gold for that

[final owl]

when crops did the job that was fine. still a mild pitb. but fine.

farming ore for same though, nope. sifting through mapper crap constantly.. also nope.

[zealous yarrow]

Hopefully when I wake up after I get home necrotic bases won’t be 55d anymore

Might have accidentally fucked that market up

[final owl]

hope springs eternal?

[zealous yarrow]

Hopemaxxing

Nearly as hopeful as the hl3 people

[final owl]

i should probably do some arbitration or something, idk what else to do with 10+m gold if i don't use kingsmarch

[wheat sinew]

Gamba on belts

[rose quail]

Flip scarabs like true degenerate

[final owl]

that requires actual money not just gold :x

[wheat sinew]

Hmm?

Faustus is free

[final owl]

I do gamba my own belts at this point

[wheat sinew]

Can just have a full inventory of belts and then just vendor all useless

For 10m gold you could hit a mb or hh

[final owl]

the full inv of belts costs $$ though no? I am currently not rich. I have maybe 20d 😛

[wheat sinew]

?

It's just gold brother xD

[final owl]

oh you mean gold gamba. i am slow today

i thought you meant screams

[wheat sinew]

Dwdw I prolly explained it poorly xD

[wheat sinew]

Oh 💀💀💀

Looked at that on trade cuz was curious

[final owl]

I could do that I guess true

[wheat sinew]

Dafuq you mean UNID is 8 divs

Like ???

[final owl]

yeah.. ID'ing your own belts is non-trivial gamba at this point 😛

[wheat sinew]

Diamond is 14 divs and that's rare at and good af xD

[wheat sinew]

Yuh xD

[final owl]

because all the degenerates want that accel shrine dopamine

[umbral crag]

I gave up after 10 belt

Just gonna save to buy one

[real spoke]

You WILL totally get the echoing shrine belt and NOT a 5c belt

[umbral crag]

Kekw

[final owl]

I have literally not ID'd one worth more than 20c so far. I have ID'd maybe 10.

[umbral crag]

Accel alone is fairly cheap now

[umbral crag]

Same same

[final owl]

what does "fairly cheap" mean

[real spoke]

The price hasn't changed that much

Its still 194~ div

[umbral crag]

It was 300 2 weeks ago. Last week eas 195. Today its 185

Slowly but surely

[real spoke]

Ah well tbf thats when multiple build guides using it came out tho

[final owl]

I don't really care. I would need resist + something nice to even consider going back to screams belt anyway

[umbral crag]

Just id accel resist easy

[real spoke]

Real

[umbral crag]

Mfw when the build i wanna try need 600div to even start

Dedge

[final owl]

what build

[umbral crag]

Spark guardian thats not the bow one

[final owl]

i think i've run out of goals for this league anyways. idk if i cbf with the last 4 challenges either

ah. yeah spark not gonna be cheap

[umbral crag]

I havent even done my challenge coz I'm too busy irl

Barely farming enough for the build to start sigh

[low lava]

I just got to kill all the Ubers yesterday. Had forgotten 2 😂

[final owl]

I still gotta tick off uber sirus and uber maven. I guess. well. I say gotta. could?

[umbral crag]

Gonna farm to 500div and see if i can get started

[low lava]

Think Uber maven is tired of me. Killed her 17 times so far.

[umbral crag]

Im doing like 40-50d/hr strat but i dont have the time to sit down and farm

Sigh

[final owl]

both fights exemplify things I hate about boss fights though. lol you wanna see wtf is going on. that's cute.

[low lava]

True. Tho as I'm not kb anymore. It's easier for me to manage on my spinner2winner and see shet

[real spoke]

What strat you doin atm?

[umbral crag]

Essence op

[low lava]

Yeah 0mod essence is damn powerful

[real spoke]

Essences make me tweak from clicking multiple times on each one then clicking multiple more to pick up

Its nice but annoying

[umbral crag]

Im doing full mirage 6 mod t16

20-30d/hr from essence, 10d/hr from chisels, 5-10d/hr from betrayal

All at once

[low lava]

I'm doing full mirage too, t16 0mods. 😆

I'm only doing essence. Makes the maps quicker

[full kraken]

what I like most about call of steel is it acts as a super handy hard counter to rare mods that are annoying for me, specifically temp bubble

[umbral crag]

Yeah possible as well

[full kraken]

but also it can be a pretty good counter to soul eater rares if I can get it in fast enough

[umbral crag]

Im running like 4min per map including mirage

[low lava]

I lost count by now.

Paid stupidly for a diamond and imp, belt

Not sure I like the setup

[final owl]

imp?

oh impenetrable

[full kraken]

I went with diamond and regen, no regrets, regen is so good at negating a lotta random stuff like ground dots and buying you waaaaay more time in delve darkness

[low lava]

Yeah. Forgot the full name 😂

[umbral crag]

Delve enjoyer

[low lava]

Wanted massive. That shit was 600+

[final owl]

i was considering diamond + replen

but then.. magebood is less than half the cost. and.. better.

[low lava]

Yeah. I always miss the Options with a mb

Already*

I just need to finish 40/40 then my league is done.

[final owl]

still not sure i cbf grinding the number of labes / maps i need to to 40/40

[full kraken]

when I have "solved" a build to the point Im not even sure what to upgrade anymore, pushing my delve depth remains as the last thing to do

I usually try and get deathless uber pinnacle clears on every boss except exarch (fuck exarch), and then its just "how deep can I go" with the build

and it makes decent profit but its mostly just about it being my final test for how far the build can handle

[low lava]

Good movie on and go ham.

[final owl]

have been meaning to watch that new 3 body problem series I guess..

[low lava]

I'm watching on daredevil to finish 😂

Waiting. Stupid phone

[full kraken]

I tried watching it, got 2 episodes in and couldnt watch anymore

it was a lot like black mirror, had big "sci fi written by someone who doesnt seem to know much about science" energy

[final owl]

I kinda still wanna build my bananaman, but my brother, who does not game, suddenly decided maybe he wants to try PoE of all things. so that character is stuck at like level 50 around Act 6 getting through campaign at a snails pace :I

[full kraken]

I just caught up on invincible latest season, and we've been watching a couple decent anime

Ive actually been quite enjoying Pseudo Haram, its actually quite cute

[final owl]

i have read the books. they're pretty good. Not a particularly good character writer, but adequate. the hard science stuff is fun. Better in book 2/3. Have heard series is decent.

[full kraken]

I dunno I gave it 2 episodes and nothing about it felt like anything above gibberish

[final owl]

that doesn't really surprise me. book 1 is somewhat convoluted and slow to start on the main story

[full kraken]

also nothing about it felt particularily intriguing, like its just a bunch of... stuff... happening

but like super abstract innane stuff happening that is so outside of suspension of disbelief that I was like "okay but so what" to the whole shebang

[final owl]

from memory (which is bad, but still) book 1 really just sets up the premise, and the fun stuff does not really happen until book 2/3

[onyx adder]

Im going to end up 39/40 with no doryanis

And im going to have to migrate for it

[final owl]

I got a freebie dory on 4040

[full kraken]

what I really really need is for netflix to start putting episodes out of jojo

[onyx adder]

I stg

This map is actual herpes

[full kraken]

cuz they just dropped episode 1 and then pissed off and everyone is like "wat"

[final owl]

netflix is dumb. i cancelled all my streaming services ages ago

I just got a peg leg instead. yarr.

[full kraken]

who does that lol, who releases only episode one and then vaporizes and doesnt even give a release schedule

[onyx adder]

Rin in fort is just here have putrid cloister

[full kraken]

unfortunately this is global release like... this /is/ the release of it, there is no episode 2 out yet, anywhere

[onyx adder]

All the putrid cloister

[final owl]

well. can't fix that problem ig

[full kraken]

and we have been given no date for when to expect episode 2, they just dropped episode 1 suddenly without warning and then peaced out

and when ppl ask about when episode... 2 and like... you know the rest of the season is coming, its been silence

netflix is just like "i dunno bruh"

[final owl]

typical anime studio things then

[onyx adder]

Ooo the callback, nice

[ebon hatch]

chat, I gambled again, this time all the way down to ZERO divines… can’t even buy scarabs im brokie. KIDS DO NOT GAMBLE

[final owl]

who said anything about hentai, and did you maybe accidentally quote the wrong person?

[full kraken]

I have to assume these are all sock puppet accounts of 1 user trolling in here

the fact they are only active 1 at a time and roll in when the other stops posting

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-phantom-menace-droid-army-naboo-gif-15588671

[final owl]

kinda feels that way tbh. 33eer / willer / steev244 got ed, edd & eddie vibes going on

[onyx adder]

Better to learn u have a gambling addiction with virtual currency, i always say

[full kraken]

you know what show I high key have been considering going and rewatching start to finish, is The Weekenders, I watched it occasionally when I was a kid and remember it being pretty good, and I have to assume Ive only actually seen like 1/3rd of it in whole

[tranquil sedge]

just dont lose gambling heh

[full kraken]

Ive seen clips of it circulating and am like, "damn this show was actually super well written tbh"

[zealous yarrow]

200d right?

Or did it drop further?

[zealous yarrow]

I haven’t checked since buying my accel massive

[zealous yarrow]

It’s not just Netflix btw

They have to get the distribution from Japanese companies too

Along with that whole can of worms

Just one big conglomerate clusterfuck

[full kraken]

yeah but it isnt released elsewhere in japan afaik, I think its releasing on netflix in japan too isnt it

[zealous yarrow]

I’m pretty sure they weren’t even finished with ep 2 either when they released ep 1

[tranquil sedge]

<@&174997701513969665>
also look at

kinda feels that way tbh. 33eer / willer / steev244 got ed, edd & eddie vibes going on
these 3 accounts

[zealous yarrow]

I love counting over 1800 cigarette cartons at work 🫠

[full kraken]

everyones waiting to find out what the opening is gonna look like, and what the closing song is gonna be

I wonder if theres a betting board out or something for people taking guesses at what the closing song will be

[zealous yarrow]

My guess is they’ll finish the next batch in ~3-4 months then do weekly

[full kraken]

Im putting my chips on "A Horse with No Name" I think

[zealous yarrow]

Doesn’t help that part 7 is LONG

[full kraken]

just wait til part 8 tho XD

part 8 is gonna take years to finish after it starts

[zealous yarrow]

Fr but I’m fine with waiting for my goat gappy

[full kraken]

like isnt part 8 longer than all other parts combined?

[zealous yarrow]

20%

Of the whole series in terms of length

10 years of publication iirc

[umbral crag]

185 when i checked 10min ago

[zealous yarrow]

Damn yeah they’re dropping

Surely the accel massive and echoing massives don’t drop too

I still need to farm for echo massive

[umbral crag]

Im just farming up for my base build first

Havent even gotten the base build running

[final owl]

i doubt the good 2 shrine belts are gonna drop

[foggy elm]

got interrupted planning a new ring craft because I heard tornado sirens in a neighboring town how y'all doin'

[fossil mural]

So annoying right

[ebon hatch]

anyone tried to farm delirium (not orbs)? how is the profit?

[modest sparrow]

Its probably ass since simu prices are like 12c

[ebon hatch]

im done with breach. the entire league farming it brought in total 5 divines or so, miserable experience if you don’t get lucky

[tranquil sedge]

it's still good even if ur ignoring the splinter revenue

[modest sparrow]

Huh, I was dropping anywhere from 1 to 5 raw divs per map

[tranquil sedge]

both running simu and farming either deli orbs or rewards

[fossil mural]

Ive seen people farm awakened scarab deli

[final owl]

when i was doing even budget breach it was pretty normal to get 1-5 tinks a map

[tranquil sedge]

awakened scarab doesn't have anything to do with deli wdym

its just smth u can optionally chuck into any strat

[fossil mural]

Just deli is shit

You have to do something else

[tranquil sedge]

depends on how u do it

[final owl]

at least 50 of the raw div i have picked up would be directly from breach. getting divines from it shouldn't be rare..

[tranquil sedge]

im pretty sure people were printing money farming stacked decks via diviner orb maps

[ebon hatch]

all the good scarabs, unstable breach, juiced maps - the best i ever got is 1 div, but 20 alt on average

[tranquil sedge]

and the ppl using paranoia to farm more orbs were making bank too

[fossil mural]

He said not orbs

[frigid wedge]

oh god

[modest sparrow]

What the flip

[tranquil sedge]

you realize not orbs can mean two different things

[fossil mural]

I am assuming he meant not applying orbs

[tranquil sedge]

not using orbs, or not farming orbs

[frigid wedge]

theres so much testing i need to do

[tranquil sedge]

that's why i said both things work too

[modest sparrow]

Whatcha testing

[frigid wedge]

uh

awakeners seeding

[fossil mural]

Uuugh saying it the way he said

At least to me it seems common knowledge stacking orbs is good

[tranquil sedge]

it doesn't matter which way he meant it anyway
either way its profitable

[frigid wedge]

i realised that if im not using elevated mods (ie jewellery, weapons, like 11 links ;P) theres a lot of things I can do with seeding to the extent i might be able to go from a magic base straight to a finished 5 mod without ever touching an exalt or recomb

for things such as 11L spiritblades

[ebon hatch]

i was farming ALOT of fine deli orbs, 80 % deli, NOTHING came out of it

[kindred lily]

pour one out for me

[tacit crow]

yo

[tranquil sedge]

well
ppl using those orbs were using them to add more loot to their breach maps lol

they weren't farming those orbs just for the rewards they gave

so if you didn't make money, im not surprised

[frigid wedge]

hihi

[ebon hatch]

THAT IS WHAT I WAS DOING!! literally nothing loo, hehe, im so unlucky

[tranquil sedge]

yea idk i didnt find breach fun either

but i also realized that and pivoted sooner than u i guess 😛

[fossil mural]

I feel there is a user issue somewhere in there

[livid quarry]

ppl clear the map first to get altars before they start breach

[tranquil sedge]

definitely user error from me in failing to find loot in breach

[frigid wedge]

breach isnt fun, my build is fun so anything dense feels good

[livid quarry]

and they r also wearing iir gear

[tranquil sedge]

but i also didnt care enough to bother with it

this league almost anything is like 20d/hr or more i imagine

[foggy elm]

breach deli with wisp scarabs made my FPS consistently dip to single digits

[modest sparrow]

If you want a good money making method but no exciting tinks you can farm stacked decks tbh

Its not the best but its a steady profit

Harvest is next level tho

[fossil mural]

If you are getting less than 40 its a bad strat currently

[modest sparrow]

I think I made like 15~ish divs in 1 astrolabe with harvest

[fossil mural]

Like

No cap

[tranquil sedge]

stacked decks are like 10-12d/hr if doing cloister

[fossil mural]

The floor is very high

[tranquil sedge]

harvest is like 20-40d/hr

[foggy elm]

Yeah yellow juice prices are out of control rn

[frigid wedge]

unfortunately i still dont like it for money with 140 rarity, a build that instafills half the bar and i run altar first

[modest sparrow]

Yuh I know, Im just sharing the cheap strats

Harvest is probably cheaper than stacked decks rn

And more profit funny enough

[ebon hatch]

i was farming that too, my best record is 17 layers of deli rewards, but i got bored

[tranquil sedge]

im not shitting on it lol

i ran lots of decks too this league

[modest sparrow]

Yeah same

[tranquil sedge]

before pivoting to harvest

[modest sparrow]

I ran decks + breach + essence to get my mb

Different strats ofc

Not the same tree lmao

There was like 5 hours in day 4~5 where essence scarab prices were so cheap compared to what you make

[tranquil sedge]

i think im taking a break for a day or two now

[ebon hatch]

maybe im the problem, i need more currency than just a mageblood, my next upgrade costs like 1 mirror minimum

[modest sparrow]

But fuuucking hell essence farming is the most boring shit ever

[tranquil sedge]

i went hard for almost 3 weeks i need to play something else for a bit

[modest sparrow]

What kind of build is that lmao

[tranquil sedge]

any build if you push it enough

[ebon hatch]

i need mirror 12 link sword

[modest sparrow]

Is that msoz

[foggy elm]

alright worst of the storm has passed time to go back to GAMING

[ebon hatch]

flicker

[tranquil sedge]

msoz doesn't use 12l swords

[fossil mural]

If you want that kind of money you have to gamble

[modest sparrow]

Huh, flicker doesn't need allat iirc?

[umbral crag]

I actually like it.. HAHAH

[tranquil sedge]

objectively incorrect

[modest sparrow]

HOW

[ebon hatch]

i gamble my way to 1 frenzy ring

[fossil mural]

Nah, it will take too long

[modest sparrow]

T7 calcification?

[fossil mural]

Even stuff like

[tranquil sedge]

depends on which version of flicker you play

[modest sparrow]

You.. enjoy that?

[fossil mural]

Frag rush

[tranquil sedge]

if you want to give shit advice, just dont reply instead

[fossil mural]

Was 80-90div or some shit

[modest sparrow]

I thought everyone was doing gladiator this league ngl

[fossil mural]

It still takes so long

[foggy elm]

essences-destructive play was good money but I hated clicking all of the essences

[tranquil sedge]

like its better to just say nothing

[umbral crag]

Nah t16 6 mod

[tranquil sedge]

than to spout objectively incorrect bullshit

[foggy elm]

harvest is still not great but it's noticeably better

[modest sparrow]

Didn't see that mb, I fear this is beyond my crafting knowledge

[lethal atlas]

game crashes as soon as i enter hideout, happened like 5 times in a row

[ebon hatch]

harvest is mega slow, i can’t harvest no more

[tranquil sedge]

gladiator's fun but slayer still popular

[modest sparrow]

Huh, is that better than t7 calci?

[umbral crag]

I like gambling in my farm. Gotta gamble for corrupted essence kekw

[tranquil sedge]

also dps ceiling on slayer is a lot higher

[fossil mural]

If I had only mirror upgrades left I wouldnt be farming maps or anything like that

[tranquil sedge]

good for you, your advice was still shit

[umbral crag]

Im running with betrayal and awakening

[fossil mural]

It takes too long

[lucid kiln]

my main is ele hit slayer and its great fun

[zealous yarrow]

Unc got ego’d by the whole chat 🥀 😭

[tranquil sedge]

nobody cares

the correct answer is never gambling

[tacit crow]

sigh

[zealous yarrow]

Wrong

Always gamble

[umbral crag]

If you just care about essence only then just t7 calci yeah

[tranquil sedge]

for fun you can
but not telling people who ask how to make money

thats just trolling

nobody needs more trolls

[fossil mural]

Gambling exists outside of harvest you know

[zealous yarrow]

Clearly you don’t know the strat

[tacit crow]

gambling is actually money strat beyond 500div

[tranquil sedge]

first of all harvest isn't gambling

[tacit crow]

the 2 card method

[tranquil sedge]

second of all, anyone suggesting gambling when someone asks for actual farming tips is a moron

[full kraken]

its pretty easy to just farm a mirror from mapping atm tbh

[fossil mural]

Its one of the few actuall gambles left

If you are more likely to win than lose

Thats not gambling

[tranquil sedge]

are you just here to troll or are you an actual idiot

[full kraken]

you can pretty low effort clock in at like 60+ div/hr and farm a mirror in a couple days atm

[modest sparrow]

Oh I meant on flicker, ele hit slayer is defo rly strong this league (watch it get absolutely impaled next league)

[tranquil sedge]

this guy is either a troll or just hit his head real hard somewhere

[full kraken]

if you have to ask...

[modest sparrow]

Oh I see I see

[tacit crow]

want money and have investment capital? moment of trauma boss

[tranquil sedge]

some grade A dumbass answers coming out of him

[ebon hatch]

im telling this to myself, like “this next mob is holding a mirror” but didn’t proc yet

[lucid kiln]

Oh my bad, I wasnt quite up to date with the chat I guess

[fossil mural]

You just dont see the vision

[full kraken]

whats dumber tho, the dumb person or you not blocking them and moving on :p

dont feed the trolllllls

[tranquil sedge]

i could but there's the chance that the other guy actually asking questions gets mislead

[fossil mural]

Once you are sitting at high enough currency

[modest sparrow]

No worries

[fossil mural]

Its a real way to make money

[tranquil sedge]

this is why i hate mentally challenged idiots who troll

[modest sparrow]

I dropped a mirror from a vase this league

[umbral crag]

Its pretty good so far, solid 40+d/hr

[modest sparrow]

I wish I clipped it

[full kraken]

I have found one of the more reliable and constistant farms is betrayal + alva

[full kraken]

just answer their question directly without talking to the troll

[frigid wedge]

i have a preference in types of the crafting and I've been experimenting with a variation of my personal favourite and its genuinely got the potential to go straight from magic toa 5 mod

[ebon hatch]

but brain is required for betrayal no?

[full kraken]

nah not with the new scarabs now tbh

[umbral crag]

You can just dmspam for lvl 3 safehouse without the planning and all

[fossil mural]

Like chad made all the money last like 10 legs

[lucid kiln]

what strat we talking about here

[frigid wedge]

u can make money with betrayal literally just always having 3 ppl in interrogation and ranking ppl up to 3

[fossil mural]

Doing only gambling

[full kraken]

with the new scarab spamming all safehouses is the play

[fossil mural]

Gambling is the way to get high currency

Or crafting

Everything else is too slow

[modest sparrow]

See now you're speaking in a language I cannot even comprehend 😭

[full kraken]

there IS ONE thing you gotta make sure of and thats setting up janus and ITF to be rivals with everyone

but thats not hard to do, doesnt matter /where/ they are, just that everyone hates them

that way you maximize odds of janus and ITF showing up to every single encounter

[frigid wedge]

me like type of craft
me try version of type
version of type very effective, can finish craft from 1 modjfier in 1 step

[umbral crag]

That just helps boost returns, technically you can ignore everything and only do lvl3 safehouse

[mental nymph]

Hi chat

[frigid wedge]

o/

[lucid kiln]

i dont understand how you guys set up betrayal or maybe im just too stupid

[full kraken]

janus helms are about 15% of my profit tbh, its non trivial

[full kraken]

you literally just make janus and ITF rivals with everyone and thats it

[frigid wedge]

rn? no reason to

[visual stream]

10k phys max hit on a gladiator

im not sure its gonna be a good experience to play

[modest sparrow]

Thank you, I appreciate you speaking in unga bunga for me

[umbral crag]

Not wrong and i totally agree. But you CAN just spam lvl3 safehouse and wont go wrong

[full kraken]

you dont even care about who is in what safehouse anymore

[umbral crag]

Just not optimised

[frigid wedge]

ill make a helpful guide on betrayal at some point if u remind me @lucid kiln

[modest sparrow]

PLEASE

[frigid wedge]

xD

[lucid kiln]

and then what?

[full kraken]

its pretty easy now

1. Encounter
2. Kill everyone except a 3 star person, save them
3. Interrogate the 3 star person

[frigid wedge]

betrayal isnt too bad tbf

[full kraken]

thats it

[lucid kiln]

omg really

[tacit crow]

moment of trauma boss

[full kraken]

see what I wrote above

its braindead simple now

[tacit crow]

19d - 35 per ring, 8% drop chance, 1.45div per run

[full kraken]

you dont care who is in what safehouse, you dont care who goes where

You just kill everyone and interrogate 1 3 star person to maximize intel

[frigid wedge]

sure

[umbral crag]

Janus is the rarity mod right

[wheat sinew]

It do be simple af these days if you care about that alone xD

[frigid wedge]

tbf rn its nice to force in it that fled for mb card

[full kraken]

yep

[lucid kiln]

what does the atlas look like

[wheat sinew]

Just syndicate, can be white maps

Map mods don't matter

If you really want to multi farm spec into + maps

That way you won't go negative for map sustain

[full kraken]

this is my current tree for doing betrayal + alva, and then I toss in Niko (for packed with energy), Heist (for huck boost and free money), and Ores (for chance at starfall crater)

[wheat sinew]

Cuz it takes like a min a map

If you just go for syndicate

[frigid wedge]

what do we want explained for betrayal in that then?
how to move ppl
how connections work
How to use the 2 5 5 2 setup
how encounters work
requirements for certain drops
ideal members to run for certain stuff
anything else?

[short prairie]

what to play with this

would be a fun ssf journey

[frigid wedge]

sunder

[short prairie]

...

[full kraken]

and for scarabs I do:
1x Betrayal of Reinforcements
2x Betrayal of Unbreakable
1x Incursion of Timelines
1x Kalguuran (for +2 ores, 100% optional)

[short prairie]

no slams allowed

[wheat sinew]

Cyclone seven teechings

[full kraken]

if you want exp though and arent lv 100 yet, I would instead run the magic mobs scarab for incursions

[wheat sinew]

Even without that pixxel

[full kraken]

cuz its such good exp clearing those magic mob incursions mmmmm

[frigid wedge]

u can make a pretty strong bosser with ice crash of cadence too

[wheat sinew]

You can level in a day from 99 to 100 by spamming white maps

It do be funny how little effect map mods have on jun

[full kraken]

its basically a "free" scarab slot so I just put that in cuz its "Free" exp while focusing on profit

[wheat sinew]

Sureeee just Alva takes so longgg

[zealous yarrow]

Holy twisted britches relax lmfao

[wheat sinew]

It's an extra minute a map

:(

[frigid wedge]

tbh betrayal rn could run p well with harvest

[tranquil sedge]

when people ask genuine questions, there's no patience for troll replies

[full kraken]

alva was about the same profit/hr as betrayal

[frigid wedge]

harvest uses 1 scarab slot rn

[tranquil sedge]

nor do i have patience for people who defend that stupid behaviour either

[wheat sinew]

Sure, just saying you double your map time

XD

[zealous yarrow]

Big fucking whoop lmao. If somebody deadass accepts gambling as a legit tip to make money that’s on them.

[tranquil sedge]

did you hit your head somewhere too?

man we really need to baby proof stuff around here

[full kraken]

not really, it only takes me about 4 seconds to do an incursion

[zealous yarrow]

Did somebody shit in your cereal champ?

[wheat sinew]

[tranquil sedge]

goo goo ga ga

[onyx adder]

I mean i dont think expecting super serious answers all the time outside of the question threads is the play

[wheat sinew]

What the fuck does incursions in less than 10 seconds, it takes like 4 seconds to teleport to the damn area xD

[frigid wedge]

my personal issue with betrayal is that you run it like most of the mechanics that should work well with dp, but realistically its not actually that quick to do unless u ignore research in every map

[lucid kiln]

Incursions can be done really quick no? with the right build that is

I just open a random door every time

[zealous yarrow]

Literally, then the person not even asking the question is throwing a temper tantrum because somebody in general chat didn’t respond with 100% seriousness

[split maple]

Insta wiping incursion isn't issue, portaling to it and out and clicking Alva takes time

Sokrate is right here

[frigid wedge]

about 50% of ur map time with betrayal is the research encounter and it's kinda dumb

[wheat sinew]

Yuuup

[opal ingot]

ppl are probably just basing off of their vibes

[frigid wedge]

bc its literally guaranteed

[split maple]

I wish research had rly shit rewards so would be skippable

[onyx adder]

This might unironically be the play ngl

[tranquil sedge]

you can't expect it, of course, this is shitpost 1 central chat, but i can call it out if i want

[wheat sinew]

And finding if you have a transportation or fortress xD

[onyx adder]

Research sucks in 2026

[tranquil sedge]

i also find the white knighting people entertaining as fuck

double win

[wheat sinew]

I cheat this by having accell shrine every map

[opal ingot]

they should change that

[wheat sinew]

So research takes no time

Zoooooom

[onyx adder]

Yea i mean u can but if u clog chat more than the trolls ur not rly winning

[full kraken]

Ive started considering just skipping research tbh

[onyx adder]

Lul

[wheat sinew]

But think of the cadiros /s

[opal ingot]

if im not purely running syndicate i skip research

[full kraken]

like the scarab and map cost is basically zero

[wheat sinew]

Or mists xD

[tranquil sedge]

if they're more upset than me at the end of the chat it's a net win

[frigid wedge]

ive def run it like that before, as long as u force connections u still get some research safehouses, i just prefer rewards from research to intervention and running fortification and transport for ur reward members feels bad

[tranquil sedge]

and it costs me nothing to do it 😄

[opal ingot]

how much ms you got

[onyx adder]

Thats just trolling urself tho

Which i mean i respect that

[split maple]

Tho idk how much optimising already fast mechanics is the Play when loading screens of mirage are together 8sec a map

[zealous yarrow]

I don’t think anybody here is upset at you making grade school level insults

[opal ingot]

on yo pob

[onyx adder]

This is general chat

[full kraken]

like, theoretically skipping research should have zero impact on your profit/effort, you just have to spend more maps but those are basically free

[onyx adder]

All trolling is welcome

[zealous yarrow]

Might be Reddit university energy idk

[zealous yarrow]

This fr

[wheat sinew]

About 50 Ms, but accell shrine is zoomies for leap slam

[zealous yarrow]

Have fun

Is video game

[full kraken]

spending 50% more maps to progress is basically a zero change in your profit cuz maps and scarabs are almost zero cost

[frigid wedge]

srev! toxic rain or self cooked build

[opal ingot]

ah

[wheat sinew]

I just leap slam through the area cuz it's faster than walking

[tranquil sedge]

watching you white knight for a random is hella entertaining tho

[lucid kiln]

rain

[opal ingot]

you know what would be cool

[spice pecan]

i like seeing srev pop off

[tranquil sedge]

i bet he'll call you a good boy if you keep it up man

[opal ingot]

if fbowb or lightning warp goes through walls

[onyx adder]

Dont u have like

[tranquil sedge]

even give you a biscuit or two ruff ruff

[onyx adder]

More than 10c

[spice pecan]

he's gonna use his level 3 super

[opal ingot]

tf lol

[full kraken]

so theoretically, skipping research should shave off like 30s/map which should net me a pretty big uptick in profit/hr

[onyx adder]

Whats going on that u would click TR

[tranquil sedge]

idk 😂

[opal ingot]

honey, its time to play harvest again

[mental nymph]

[frigid wedge]

toxic rain has a high investment version that runs lab beasts and heists very well

[halcyon flicker]

one with nothing leveling is sooo nice

[zealous yarrow]

🤢

[opal ingot]

harvest is my true love

[full kraken]

I found beasts were kind of lackluster profit/hr atm

[mental nymph]

Harvest is peak

[frigid wedge]

high end tr just specs everything into movement speed