1┃general

[mental nymph]

So for eater

[rose quail]

Map quant matters but no need to sweat. Just run rare something

[icy zinc]

spamming betrayal for 10 medallions an hour

[mental nymph]

How do I avoid his one shot attack ?

[icy zinc]

lfg 80 div

[astral brook]

wtf am i profiting then lmao

its gonna drop random gear

or you mean the boss method

[pulsar ice]

I'd list it for like 3div and forget about it

[rose quail]

The same things. Inscription is just gamble on the Inscribed Ultis. You will still see them and you will also get Catalysts, the ocassional fancy thing and boss gives tainted catas. It's late in league so idk how much the shield is worth now

[astral brook]

tainted catalysts worthless here

only good drop ive had from boss was the helm with a malevolance implicit

[rose quail]

Lemme check

[astral brook]

no stock faustes

ppl selling 14c

[rose quail]

Yeah, Mahuxotl costs nothing. Skip boss. It's 2x Dueling then.

[astral brook]

il try both methods ig

[compact bronze]

are there better loot when map have reflect ele or reflect phys?

[astral brook]

no

[rose quail]

Or if you want the long term then you can use Inscription

But then you do have do quite a few as it evens out

[astral brook]

yeah thats what ii meant

full mirage 100 maps

like 110d invest get a mirr back type sht

[tacit crow]

8drops = profit

[rose quail]

Tbh haven't tried Mirage. Let me know how it goes whether it's worth or not

[split palm]

I swear to fucking god

breach

is so bad

[rose quail]

Skill issue

[astral brook]

yeah it fell off

went 10 maps without a tink even with 200% rarity gear swapping to ulti

[spice pecan]

solo players mfing in trade league is still deadge

[split palm]

fubgoon moment

follow fubgoon blindly no matter what

[rose quail]

Ayo, tainted catas are like 8c a piece and dueling is 1c. Boss defo doable if your DPS is good. If it takes long not worth doe

[split palm]

this is where the cata money is at

sinistral 28c

just straightline into mirage xd

[native abyss]

im gonna be rich right?

[limpid prairie]

yeah but only a bit

[native abyss]

wtf im not rich

they are all trash!

[icy zinc]

i hear you sell these unid

boring i know

[tacit crow]

just saw a snipe

of the century

[split palm]

is unreasonable to ask to at least have your invest covered with breach?

[tacit crow]

yes

very

[frigid wedge]

i hate that the strats that drop lots of loot always manage to still be loss

[split palm]

sans

btw

[dim turtle]

skill issue bro just clear 10 screens before rares spawn smh

[split palm]

for when I buy the 500d jewel

[split palm]

guess what

[frigid wedge]

why minion dmg and not quality of support gsms

[rose quail]

The hell you are investing here?

[split palm]

4d per map I think

[rose quail]

Bruh

Why?

[frigid wedge]

bloodlines scarab alone is 2 to 3d

[rose quail]

Sounds like a fubgooner strat

[split palm]

2.2d bloodlines
0.8d other scarabs
0.8d chisel + deli

[frigid wedge]

sits around 900c usually

[umbral crag]

Uber juiced breach is just coping for locks and mirrors

[frigid wedge]

mm

[umbral crag]

Before then you usually make a loss kek

[dim turtle]

u clea 10? clearly dont have 6 flask megablood with 900% iir

[split palm]

you tell me

[rose quail]

I do 2x Instability + Marshal + Monstrous Lineage + Deli and make money

[split palm]

9 sacreds

[frigid wedge]

id enjoy breach if u didnt have to go back to the fuckin middle every timr

[umbral crag]

Unstable breach doesnt

It drops around wherever you are

[frigid wedge]

to kill the rares and boss

[umbral crag]

Oh that wellp

[frigid wedge]

the mobs dont continuously spawn comfortably near the middle

[tacit crow]

+110mil dps

for 2% pen

thats so disgusting

[tawdry olive]

box be like "Get yo ass back here i aint done yet"

[native abyss]

hey its me ur brother

[split palm]

FUCK YOU TREE

why can't you fucking foulborn THE ONE THING

[plush gulch]

what kind of maps do you like for essence calcification, a chill layout like cemetary citiy square or the more naturally packed maps to get more natural rare monster ?

[spice pecan]

i usually like racecourse

but with mirage it might be different

[plush gulch]

I use entire map mirage

[cosmic raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-the-mandalorian-hi-hello-wave-gif-8636678709828902292

[plush gulch]

i'll try it once

to see how it is

[whole storm]

Will volatile vaal orb goes to Core? If yes, can it go to beyond boss drop pool? No one run em, actually there will be a reason to run em.

[rose quail]

We dont know

[plush gulch]

I don't see why it wouldn't

mirage itself probably not, what it gave us will be probably stay everything is a W

mirage it's just because there is no real way beside nerfing it

[rose quail]

Mirage is piss easy. Make it rare drop as full mirage map only and gg

It's just boring is all

[plush gulch]

it's sad because its so cool

and not annoying at all

like could be mercenary

so you would really like it being there all the time but it's too strong

[rose quail]

Uh, not really. Like I said Mirage is extremely boring. It's literally a non-mechanic. The neat part is the extra thingies and how it works with other mechanics so you can run the thing you like

[plush gulch]

wtf I love mirage it's exactly the kind of thing I like

it's not annoying and overbearing

like most league are

[rose quail]

Like what do you like in it? It has no mechanics literally

[foggy elm]

full mirage should be a wish maybe

so you get extra juice/rewards or you get full coverage

[plush gulch]

you can not interact with it, it doesn't make the maps harder, it make what you like better. It doesn't make the game base worse

like necropolis I would have enjoyed way more if there were no mecanics

[rose quail]

Yeah but that has nothing to do with Mirage

[plush gulch]

just so annoying itr's there all the time, you can't opt out

[rose quail]

You can just add all that to base and that's that

[plush gulch]

well idk I hated breach league, and merc (after a few weeks)

here I can continue playing and have fun

[true juniper]

wtf i just drop a mirror on a leveling char ? how rare is it on leveling ? i'm on act 10

[rose quail]

Yeah, because it has variety but that variety is because it's just buffing older leagues.

[hushed elk]

better than me letting that shit rot i will forget about it in a day

[plush gulch]

what's bad about that ?

[rose quail]

On itself it has what? the coins, barya and shitty boxes

[rose quail]

Nothing. The point is that there is not much to bring core. Easier to just add the rewards somewhere. Like put breach stuff in breach etc

As in, the core mechanic of Mirage has next to nothing. Most of it is in the other leagues

[split palm]

@winter kelp uhhh rmt?

[plush gulch]

I loved this league way more than all past leagues beside my first one which was tota

all I have to say

every other one I felt it was it was annoying from the start or get old very very quick

and became busywork

I don't want to do

like checking mercs if they have a mageblood

😔

[rose quail]

Yeah. It's great league and I love it too. I'm talking about the mechanic not the league

[winter kelp]

Yeah don't do this here.

[rose quail]

Like I haven't played this much for years lol

[crisp obsidian]

Awww did I miss royal marriage tratment

[plush gulch]

well im sad it will go away to be replace with an annoying mecanic

next league

i hate settlers

it's only now it's okayish

[hushed elk]

ups

[plush gulch]

after all this time

[hushed elk]

only channel i know that has USA people and not shady kids that do the 0€ return haha

[past mantle]

There has never been a mechanic that was more set to go core than mirage.

[plush gulch]

more set to go core what does it mean

[winter kelp]

Going to any discord really and posting that isn't going to get you anywhere other than banned.

[plush gulch]

yes it really looks like a scam

even if you don't mean too

asking people money

well

[spice pecan]

shit i missed it

[hybrid harness]

mirage going core would require some big changes though, a mechanic that straight up doubles the effectiveness of other mechanics leads to it being a must-pick. And I doubt they want mechanics in the game u feel forced to take

[plush gulch]

you missed your nigerian prince relative

[rose quail]

Fite me lol. Settlers is one of my favourite leagues

[plush gulch]

howwwwww

[past mantle]

The solution is likely putting mirage behind a scarab. You can't have it on the tree.

[hybrid harness]

I like the mirage variant currencies, but idk how the zone dupe itself would be implemented

[plush gulch]

meta was ass, busy work you have to do if not you are insanely stupid

[rose quail]

I like leagues with lots of tinkering. Like Settlers, Synthesis. Stuff like that

[split palm]

last map in is gonna be a good one

[past mantle]

Real.

[plush gulch]

you like busy work

[rose quail]

[plush gulch]

well it's nice sometimes

when you can opt out

[cosmic reef]

Just buy yourself a visa on amazon or something bro

[split palm]

4d for the map itself (self dropped it tho)

[rose quail]

Yep. It's something that I think is however better in core than in league. Since then you got lads like me that run it and make good currency from people who don't want to run it lol

[plush gulch]

for me it's only now that settlers is good

with the thing that make it not EVERYONE

[rose quail]

Ngl the ore change was great

[plush gulch]

has to interact with it

but I hate recomb

itr's annoying complicated and too strong it make a joke of most other crafting meanic

but that's my opinion

[past mantle]

I don't think I touched recombination in 3 leagues.

[rose quail]

I like recomb but current one is whatever. The whacky league stuff was great

[plush gulch]

merc

I was surprised on how annoying it was after a while

[rose quail]

Merc was so ass I quit like a week or two in

[spice pecan]

bro what

mercs was fire

[plush gulch]

mythik just like doryani

[rose quail]

One of the worst leagues in years for me

[plush gulch]

lol

[spice pecan]

i didn't even play a doryani merc build

i played aurabot lol

[plush gulch]

me neither

[tacit crow]

bossing

is kinda profitable

[rose quail]

I hate managing another thing

[spice pecan]

holy wall of images dude

[tacit crow]

look at the funny

[plush gulch]

he interrupt us with money

so I forgive

[rose quail]

Like if I play an action game and you give me mercenary it's the fastest way for me to nope out

I hate multi character stuff

[plush gulch]

but you gotta give me a few div

[rose quail]

Unless it's tactics game

[spice pecan]

i mean you could just not hire one and execute them for their shit

[rose quail]

Yeah, but that gets boring real fast

[past mantle]

Your profile picture is from baldmans Gate.

[rose quail]

Unless it's tactics

[wheat sinew]

I'm freeeee and it's not even that good xdddddd (failed 14x 50/50)

[past mantle]

Faker...........

[wheat sinew]

~~I cannot settle wit hthis ~~

this is trash

[plush gulch]

what is cool about mirage is you really don"'t have to interact with it because unlike other mecanic you dont have a crazy loot you can't miss out on

like mg

[rose quail]

But yeah. I don't see how everything from Mirage won't just go core. It has everything GGG loves: high risk, high reward

[plush gulch]

mb

[rose quail]

It's super easy to balance too

[plush gulch]

at worse it's a 3div wish

it's annoying but not I missed a mageblood level of annoying

[tranquil sedge]

you dont have a crazy loot you can't miss out on
if you're running any league mechanic at all you're basically giving up a large potion of the profit if you dont do the mirage

and if you're running no mechanic, it still costs almost no time to check if a random ridan spawn or a wish ridan can occur

[plush gulch]

well if you use something that don''t need to do it

[pulsar ice]

ooh, not bad

[plush gulch]

i mean you don"'t even need to check the wish

which gets old

[rose quail]

That's what I am doing atm. Doing beasts+betrayal and just checking for coins and afraud. Gonna switch to ulti today to check it out

[plush gulch]

I hated checking for every merc a month in

[tranquil sedge]

yes but that 3 div wish is a lot more common than a mageblood

[dark sequoia]

I do like the idea of all the league mechanics having an extra hard alternate version that has special rewards.

[plush gulch]

yes I really like what interact with what we already have

[tranquil sedge]

its fine to say u dont wanna engage with it but its disingenous to suggest its fine to skip because its not costing much

[plush gulch]

I skipped a few and didn't feel bad

[dark sequoia]

Volatile Vaals need to stay

[plush gulch]

idk

[tranquil sedge]

what does that have to do with anything

i skip lots of things and dont feel bad

[plush gulch]

you skip a merc and remember the number of mageblood people missed out on

[tranquil sedge]

doesn't mean they're not worth doing

[plush gulch]

not checking

with the stats

[tranquil sedge]

this is also not the data point you think it is

that was also incredibly rare

and the ppl who misclicked or w/e ofc they're gonna post about it

you'll hear from the outliers, as with any rng event

its an easy bet most people wouldn't have seen one t0 merc the whole league

even if they clicked every merc

[past mantle]

Dont think so. Any mechanic that empowers other mechanics becomes a must pick. Kind of an issue to have a mandatory mechanic always.

[plush gulch]

itr's like heavy belt you have to check it"s so rare

but so much money

it's like the highlight of your league if it drops

[tranquil sedge]

sure and its the exact same as anything else, its average value is balanced by the effort

[past mantle]

Its also possible they only keep mirage maps.

[plush gulch]

I get it math wise it doesn't work out for you what I say

[rose quail]

I like three things about the Mirage: the coins, the extra stuff in other leagues and the gold volatiles

[rose quail]

Oh yeah. But you just make it unpickable.

[plush gulch]

but when you play and what I feel and stuff I don't want to miss on a mageblood

im fine missing on 2div

it's not that common either

[past mantle]

Then its just a wildwood nothing burger. An issue in itself.

[plush gulch]

some day I find one black barya wish

[tranquil sedge]

the only rarity that matters is relative to other things ur comparing to

not how much you play specifically

[rose quail]

Nah, you can use the Nightmare and Blight map approach.

[tranquil sedge]

but sure i get missing 2d sucks less than missing 100-200d

[rose quail]

Have the full Mirage maps drop

[tranquil sedge]

no denying that

[past mantle]

Thats probably gonna be the route.

[rose quail]

Cuz then you can just balance the drop rate

[past mantle]

You get mirage maps and maybe a scarab and thats how you interact with mirage.

[plush gulch]

it's like closing your map forgetting to check what the heavy belt on the ground was, it feels extremely bad at least for me

the potential

[tranquil sedge]

i dont feel that way personally but understandable why ppl might feel that way

i just mentally write it off as 'what are the odds lol'

-# having said that i moused over a leather belt this league and found a headhunter

[plush gulch]

and the wish oh at worst it was this

[tranquil sedge]

right

[plush gulch]

let's move on

[plush gulch]

pretty cool

[tranquil sedge]

replica farruls are dropping in price for double corrupts finally

might be able to snag some nice ones for the old flicker character on a livesearch

[past mantle]

I need to double corrupt a shit sword to get like 15% more damage.

Crying and sobbing ngl.

[tranquil sedge]

which

[past mantle]

Fleshrender.

[plush gulch]

@tranquil sedgeI feel bad not not running/speccing into altar 😔

I did remove it once and got a div orb

altar

twice this league

[tranquil sedge]

eldritch altars?

[plush gulch]

yes

[tranquil sedge]

i'd sooner try to farm a mageblood via div cards than try my luck at getting divine altar lol

and ironically with betrayal that's probably even easier

[past mantle]

Divine altars are really not that rare.

[final owl]

altars schmaltars. i assume i've ignored a couple this league. sure havent seen any.

[tranquil sedge]

yea but knowing my luck it'll be at the end of the map

1 enemy left
divine orb altar spawns

[rose quail]

I literally haven't run a map without influence since I got to T16 and haven't clicked an altar in a week

[plush gulch]

3 div altar this league for me (1 was boss so 3 div)

[rose quail]

I just keep them for invitations

[tranquil sedge]

also big ticket items stop feeling very big ticket after a while

[past mantle]

I got 1 early on and it was like 9d.

[tranquil sedge]

20d/hr is pretty doable for pretty much anyone in pretty much any league

even if it takes a bit to get there

so after a while its meh

[past mantle]

I've been doing nothing but map farming this whole league I feel.

Since nightmare maps are big moola and mirage basically guarantees 2 per map.

[rose quail]

When every upgrade starts costing 100+ div big ticket items really do loose their luster

[final owl]

I'm doing challenges for lack of any more fun ideas

[plush gulch]

man selling them should be ass

i don't want to do it

[past mantle]

Why would it be?

[plush gulch]

setting up 5 tab of maps, map per map

[past mantle]

Huh?

[tranquil sedge]

you just ctrl+rightclick maps into dump merchant tabs

theres no thinking involved

like, its exactly as fast as storing the maps in ur own stash lol

[past mantle]

You just price one and then ctrl + right click all of them in. Takes like a minute for a full tab.

[plush gulch]

don't you have to confirm for each map

[tranquil sedge]

thats why you right click

to avoid confirm

[past mantle]

No, that's what ctrl + right click does.

[rose quail]

It's ez

[plush gulch]

😮

[past mantle]

It prices the item same as last item.

[plush gulch]

cheatcode

[tranquil sedge]

how i felt when i found that out lol

brb dinner

[past mantle]

Highly recommend hovering over the ? in your tabs.

They have the shortcuts listed.

[plush gulch]

thanks u

[rose quail]

I would kms if I had to sell beasts without that lol

[plush gulch]

yes I thought you were all doing that

[final owl]

most bulk selling wouldn't happen if that didn't work

[plush gulch]

getting 3 to 4 click per map

[opal ingot]

gamer

[plush gulch]

to sell

[split palm]

on a 30 qual too

what ilevel

[spring anchor]

is it true that rolls on this ring dont matter ? and it 19/20 divs coz ppl use volatile vaal orb ?

[split palm]

83

[split palm]

yes and no

a good roll will sell for more

a bad roll will always be 19d for volatile

[plush gulch]

volative vaal orb has a divine orb included

[split palm]

so if you have like

perfect roll

people may c orrupt with temple for idk

[past mantle]

Reduced fire res mod roll matters a lot.

[plush gulch]

you would never use volative vaal orb on a perfect rolled one

[final owl]

doesn't matter for VV'ing though

[plush gulch]

very wasteful

[split palm]

the roll

matters

rarely

[past mantle]

Oh yeah, for volatile vaal it doesn't matter since it divines before corrupting.

[split palm]

stop saying dumb stuff please.

[plush gulch]

🤔

[final owl]

i used a non-corrupted 65% for a fair while before getting my VV version

[split palm]

If it is a perfect reduced fire res roll it will sell easily for more. If it is anything else, it will be 19d or whatever

[past mantle]

So it matters a lot. :xdd:

[spring anchor]

kk thanks 🙂 so its 19d

[split palm]

only perfect roll costs more

ignore the fact that mine has 59

[plush gulch]

make me think of progenesis or mageblood

where it doesn't matter you divine it yourself

funny

[spring anchor]

i thought i hit jack pot 😂 but its still 20div

[final owl]

throw a VV at it and you can hit jackpot.

[split palm]

not worth it tbh

[past mantle]

Did they reduce the rarity of it? Why's it so expensive rn?

[plush gulch]

it's so unfavorable imo

[final owl]

people are at the vaal all the things stage of league i guess

[split palm]

because the best build in the game currently uses it?

[plush gulch]

too much chance to fail or be bad

[split palm]

or the most popular rather

[plush gulch]

too biased against us it's like casino

[spring anchor]

im scared cat rn 😄 need currency for nimis

[split palm]

xd

[past mantle]

Oh bv gameplay. 💤

[plush gulch]

sell it be responsable

[split palm]

need to hit 600 fire res

before coil swap

so I keep my dps

[spring anchor]

yea 🙂

[plush gulch]

I have one friend dm'ing me his gambling losses while I need to express compassion

it's enough

make me angry sometime

like you did this to yourself

[split palm]

soon 1kd again

the number is 900

[plush gulch]

jeff bezos

wait

BRO

[final owl]

I need some Ds. I am not sure what i cbf doing to make it

[plush gulch]

@split palmdo you know what happened

[split palm]

?

[plush gulch]

when I neede to craft a cluster jewel refracting fog went from 190 c to 400c

when im done

[split palm]

oh

I need to sell

[plush gulch]

it get back to 200c

who is there to get me

who

[split palm]

had this happen to me yesterday

[plush gulch]

was it you

[timid crow]

👀

sorry, i might've hijacked teh fog economy earlier

[plush gulch]

i spent 20div orb fogging my cluster

[final owl]

idk, was it me wat?

[plush gulch]

like im seriou

[plush gulch]

I was joking

just someone messed with me

[split palm]

I mean

[plush gulch]

god

maybe

[final owl]

🙈

[split palm]

I spent 20d rolling clusters with 83

wondering why T1 is so rare

in purple juice

[plush gulch]

getting the chaos res base was weirdly difficult

[timid crow]

oof

[final owl]

I did that with a cluster this league. i don't think i wasted 20d though. thankfully. i twigged eventually

[plush gulch]

and I didn't see any mana reservation either

[split palm]

across like 5 clusters

plus

I self fracced those

so wasted even more

[rose quail]

Slowly climbing out of poverty as welll

[timid crow]

I hit 36/40 so i'm fine with being poor now

might make an alt finally

[plush gulch]

I love that fracturing orb became affordable to the common oddish aka me

before I could never

I was too poor to gamble with 15d orb

all my life

[final owl]

i just feel like i'm a tourist playing the 3 red cups game when i fracture

[plush gulch]

now I can throw one or two it's not gonna bakrupt me

[split palm]

tell me more

[final owl]

IS IT UNDER THIS ONE? no.

[split palm]

I had to buy 70 fracs yesternight

[plush gulch]

what

how

[split palm]

at least I hit a few decent ones

so made like 50d back

[plush gulch]

ah

you did several

I was like how can you miss 1/4 70 time in a row

[final owl]

probability is quite mysterious. how does it work and all that.

[plush gulch]

santa claus decides if you've been a good boy

that's how it work

[split palm]

I missed a 3% drop 350+ times in a row

[final owl]

this would work a lot better if i got to nominate who you asked if i had been a good boy

[split palm]

by now it must be 400

from all the feared reverence kills

[true juniper]

i have dropped a mirror at act 10 ??? first time ever i got a mirror

[plush gulch]

you even got it on video

crazy

[split palm]

HOLD UP

[final owl]

won the game in act10

[true juniper]

yup thx medal

[split palm]

what

[plush gulch]

we need to farm act 10

guys

[split palm]

wtf

???

[opal ingot]

fuck

i got strength and dexterity dexterity and strength 4 times each

not a single dex int

im shredding through all my divs rn

[timid crow]

what're you doing?

[split palm]

levels?

[opal ingot]

WOAH

I LOVE COMPLAINING

[plush gulch]

how do normal people sell all of this

[opal ingot]

I JUST GOT IT THE NEXT ATTEMPT HAHAHAA

[plush gulch]

I'll need an hour

[split palm]

TRUEEEEEEE!!!!!!

TRUEEE!!

[crisp obsidian]

Poexchange or wealthyexile bulk list

[split palm]

complain and you shall obtain

[final owl]

I wish it worked that way for me

[split palm]

faustus

or just keep it

since I will craft something

[foggy elm]

I just convert all to deafening and sell on faustus, takes a few minutes if you're fast

[plush gulch]

isnt there scam there ,

[split palm]

I had 75k each juice

[plush gulch]

cheaper one can be very expensive now

[final owl]

yeah, i just leave it in the too hard basket

[crisp obsidian]

?

[opal ingot]

for my standard build

[opal ingot]

wait i got over excited

it's the 5th str and int

[plush gulch]

well people give you the money you then have to do 55 exchange

[opal ingot]

not dex int

[split palm]

holy vault

[tranquil sedge]

1 - ur exaggerating how many trades
2 - if you're selling, how could you even get scammed, the only scam potential is for buyers

[split palm]

at least cortex is 65c

[plush gulch]

are you blocking and reforge attributes ?

[tranquil sedge]

3 - just manually dump it on faustus if you don't want to do that

[opal ingot]

i can't

filled suffixes

[split palm]

sage

show

[tranquil sedge]

harvest reforge the lowest deafenings if you want, otherwise just dump on faustus

[opal ingot]

im spamming agian

[split palm]

just show it bleh

[final owl]

the best thing i've got out of a reliquary vault is a single div

[opal ingot]

^

[final owl]

mostly just utter crap though

[plush gulch]

it's now I can't upgrade essence I have to check each one

because some are valuable

very weird league

[tranquil sedge]

its coz of recombs and its a onetime check

[split palm]

suff lock slam?

with veil chaos

[tranquil sedge]

also those valuable ones are low tiers

[split palm]

on a fire res essnece?

[foggy elm]

I got a CDR support back when they were like 4d

[opal ingot]

oh yeah there's a fire res essence

[tranquil sedge]

ur not losing out on upgrading screaming+ rly

[opal ingot]

i just spamed reforge fire

[plush gulch]

oh yourre right

[split palm]

xd

[plush gulch]

it's like very very low tier

the one I never see

[tranquil sedge]

also when u make 20-50d/hr on essence who cares about losing a few chaos

[split palm]

very nice to move prefixes

[elder marlin]

50d/hr seems abit unrealistic

[split palm]

I remember spending 200d on woes

[plush gulch]

never spend money on hoes

[split palm]

to roll +1 lightning with empty suffixes on an all spell base

[stark charm]

Anyone know what you get % wise per 5way at 99? at 20% but bored of running not very profitable pack stacking easy maps

[split palm]

was fun

[stark charm]

for like 1-3% a map

[split palm]

by the way

am I, the only one to have annuls and exalts in the essence tab?

for essence fuckaroundery

[tranquil sedge]

i think rilay made near that or smth some days ago

@normal hedge wat was the div/hr number

[final owl]

i just read the tea leaves. yes, you are the only one.

[split palm]

it is

realistic enough

running nightmare maps with no frags on citadel was ~80d/h two days ago

btw, I need to adjust the formula for frags

[tranquil sedge]

im definitely doing this next league if ward break is still a meta build choice

[split palm]

because apparently, citadel, and fortress

have a 40% drop rate for synth frags

[final owl]

do we want synth frags or do we not want synth frags

[split palm]

I've noticed dropping them less over my 200 maps I've run total

[opal ingot]

im already at 22 unveils

the odds of getting this is 1/8

[split palm]

no, but I love to run uber cortex

made me like 400d this league

[final owl]

just spicey nebs?

[split palm]

yep

a 12% corrupt neb is 150d or so

maybe 200

weekend price: 130d

[final owl]

yeah that makes sense i guess

[split palm]

but they do sell for 150d

no matter the implicit

[drowsy ember]

Is Volatile Vaal Orb the same as Alva double corruption room?

[split palm]

no

it rolls ranges

like in poo2

[final owl]

i have a few nebs. i should probs VV them :x

[split palm]

and can poof item like alva

[drowsy ember]

oooh PoE2 Vaal

got it

thanks!

[split palm]

no implicit changes

just roll range

I am debating grabbing any mastery

[normal hedge]

bit more than that, but around that

[split palm]

and slamming +1 support level

but than I realize

everything is basically exceptional supports

[harsh crypt]

a stupid question, i often see some really big and havy hitting rare enemies that attack like 1000 times per second and i am not sure but i think that it makes Soul Eater buff on them, is that correct and if so is there anything that can be done to kill such enemies? I dont know maybe disable this Buff somehow

[vocal tinsel]

wait can amulets have eldritch implicits?

[normal hedge]

my issue was ag sometimes steal the stupid flee mod

so it stop working xd

[tranquil sedge]

the only things soul eater does are make them attack faster, and give them damage reduction

they don't actually do more damage per hit

so if you have good recovery, they're functionally just more tanky monsters

in any case the answer isn't anything new - kill them if you can or skip them if you can't, you lose nothing by not killing them lol

[nocturne maple]

they've already nerfed soul eater this league so it's unlikely they touch it again in the future. At least not for some time

[tranquil sedge]

no

ye soul eater isn't even one of the scarier archnem mods

[vocal tinsel]

why does poedb show a weight on amulets then?

[split palm]

soul eater, hasted, enrages on low life is a fun combo

[tranquil sedge]

for that one unique amulet whatever its called i forget

[normal hedge]

theres a unique amulet with eldritch implicit

[harsh crypt]

thx

[split palm]

just have more dps

[vocal tinsel]

ohhh okay

[normal hedge]

eternal struggle

[split palm]

alternatively, run away for I believe 40seconds for SE stacks to fall off

[tranquil sedge]

this never even occured to me to do lol

[vocal tinsel]

trying to find a way to squeeze an extra 11% spell supp into my build without tanking dps too bad. went from 0-89% only losing 1m dps. think ill have to recraft my boots to do it though

[mental nymph]

So chat

[final owl]

if it takes too long to die you just leave. it does not have a mirror for you anyway.

[spice pecan]

magebane?

[mental nymph]

What beast is aspect of the cat lvl 30?

What lvl does it need

[fossil mural]

every se mob ive ran into spawned adds to kill to keep the stacks

[tranquil sedge]

ur welcome to post pobs when u ask questions like this

[spice pecan]

farrul first of the plains + black morrigan i think?

[tranquil sedge]

morrigan and farrul isnt it

[fossil mural]

I am not sure you can just run away anymore

[tranquil sedge]

o

[vocal tinsel]

If i cant figure it out myself I will for sure :)

[drowsy ember]

Locus of Corruption is the double corruption room right?

[tidal rune]

what goes with petrified blood + progenesis defense? I am currently using Block + The Surrender and it feels i am not dying very often

[cobalt blade]

u can

[final owl]

correct

[split palm]

the fuck do I do with this

[cobalt blade]

recoup

[tranquil sedge]

recoup + regen ^

[cobalt blade]

/general max hit scalers like max res

[fossil mural]

how about

[jagged raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsHpsNc8eCg
how the hell is this pathfinder build so tanky?

[fossil mural]

wellwater recharge

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/326439387300626434/997220065890013224/ezgif-2-bbf90a7866ae-1.gif

[tacit crow]

so we hit it

[split palm]

xd

[tacit crow]

without minmaxxing jewels

[cobalt blade]

gg

[tacit crow]

10.3bil dps

[spice pecan]

gg

[tidal rune]

okay so max res above 80+, and recoup + progen and petrified

[tacit crow]

500k from an ice golem for increased crit chance

[split palm]

breach viable

[tacit crow]

surely a progen saves me

[final owl]

it is mildly wild to me a taming is on that build. it is VV'd to the max i assume

[mental nymph]

Does farrul need a specified lvl?

Or is it 80 enough ?

[cobalt blade]

yuh

[tranquil sedge]

idk

[split palm]

why even bother with res btw

[plush gulch]

fresh essence people they fresh

[timid crow]

okay game, what the frankenfuckle?

[cobalt blade]

could be 49% D:

[tacit crow]

aware...

[timid crow]

5 positives, 1 negative

[tranquil sedge]

the idea is to get 5 of them then 5:1 vendor for a clean base

oh

like that nvm

[fossil mural]

"immortal"

[ocean folio]

that rings looks pretty juicy

[split palm]

KAFKA

[cobalt blade]

only kinda good max hit there is phys

[split palm]

YOUR TAMING IS ASS

[tacit crow]

...

be nice

[normal hedge]

yeah kafka

[tacit crow]

guys...

[cobalt blade]

they held alt thats pre qual

[fossil mural]

has crab, I disabled it, but like crab is a meme in maps

[split palm]

49

[tacit crow]

wanna swap

look at my res roll too

[cobalt blade]

full meme

[tacit crow]

shit close to a mirror

[split palm]

do you even need the res

you are oneshot either way

[tacit crow]

fire for rf sustain

[split palm]

6 portal defences

[drowsy ember]

I just got a +2 Aura +2 Projectie on my Death's Oath... Fuck

[split palm]

I mean

we can just buy 200

tamings

and vaal

[tacit crow]

surely

[split palm]

iksdee

[tacit crow]

im max roll res 2off max dmg

[split palm]

you have to hit the 1 in 44 on the 1 in 10 lmao

so just

880 tamings

[tacit crow]

just hit

[split palm]

for the 49 base

[tacit crow]

nah i need to dc belt

way better

[crisp obsidian]

Don't disconnect your belt dafak

[split palm]

need to actually craft this

idk what tho, not really a minion kinda person

[tranquil sedge]

sell that for 47 mirrors and win

[split palm]

true

[tacit crow]

where 30qual

[split palm]

it dropped like that lmao

[normal hedge]

53 energy shield -> 60

[tacit crow]

oh !

[split palm]

64 with 20

!!

[normal hedge]

how much is that base

[split palm]

30d

[normal hedge]

holyshit

[split palm]

somehow

[pulsar ice]

why not a shaper shield with 5% life on block?

[split palm]

dropped from last breach in last map

[crisp obsidian]

Can be used by any build tbf

That uses shields

[tranquil sedge]

its not like he crafted that base

[pulsar ice]

true

[split palm]

it literally dropped like that

pre frac encheapment...

imagine the price

1 sac -> 100% base

wait

[drowsy ember]

Fuck

[split palm]

that is kind of simple-ish to make

since level is the only minion prefix lol

[pulsar ice]

suffixes are pain if you want max res

[split palm]

+2 max res would be nice yea

[tranquil umbra]

dropped three curse rings I'm goated

[warped sonnet]

eyyy dot cap with eq

[split palm]

anyone has anything on foulborn aug

in terms of what it cuts off?

[mental nymph]

chat,as imperfect as it is ,its done

[tranquil sedge]

read wiki page on foulborn currency
it seems to suggest it culls lower tiers

[pulsar ice]

it is also on craft of exile, so you can check the chances there

[tranquil sedge]

nice gloves but where's the life

[forest flower]

btw is it just me or does exp get heavily nerfed after 98-99? i've been doing the same farming, breach beyond got me 100m per hour, but once i hit 99, i'm getting 30m on a good day

[split palm]

hm

[normal hedge]

xp is the same

[mental nymph]

yea dot mod filled

so rip

[split palm]

meaning it just lets me slam +2max res

[tranquil sedge]

learning experience for u
the way ppl normally do this is with beastlocks*

[normal hedge]

i literally got 50% in 20 maps with bloodlines breach at lv 99

[forest flower]

that's so weird

[mental nymph]

oh

what beast lock?

[forest flower]

maybe something changed and i'm not killing fast enough, or pack size isn't high enough

[tranquil sedge]

beast locks
applies hinekora lock effect to a magic item

[forest flower]

but i don't get why i went from 100m down to 30

[tranquil sedge]

so u can see what doing the woke orb woulda given

[dim turtle]

[tranquil sedge]

and if its not a desired outcome, reset, lock again, go again

[mental nymph]

yeah hinekora is pricy lol

[tranquil sedge]

beast lock

its applies the EFFECT of a hinekora lock, limited to magic items

[dim turtle]

chat surely refracting fog wont cook me

right

[tranquil sedge]

it also costs a lot less lol

[dim turtle]

surelyyyyyyy

[normal hedge]

nah you'll get it first try

[dim turtle]

[mental nymph]

fair but when do i apply that

before awakener?

[forest flower]

you can do it, i believe in you

[umbral crag]

Before awakener when the base is magic

[tranquil sedge]

wdym

you'd get less xp at 99 than at 98

coz of penalty?

[opal ingot]

lost 20m dps after i fixed my tincture

[mental nymph]

i see,thx

[tranquil sedge]

lemme link u sage's glove craft writeup for this

[fossil mural]

unpadded

[forest flower]

is that how exp works? like you need same exp just that the penalty per level is higher?

[dim turtle]

ive been in pob for 2h

[tranquil sedge]

@opal ingot did u post that glove writeup in here too

or just in pal's

[opal ingot]

just in pals

[tranquil sedge]

ok

[normal hedge]

the way i understood his question was: "did they nerfed the xp in this patch" or something?

[opal ingot]

its kinda wrong too lol

[tranquil sedge]

o

[opal ingot]

you have to risk the yolo dominances on the warlord base i think?

[tranquil sedge]

nice

[forest flower]

oh no it was "do they nerf the exp per level"

[opal ingot]

or was it the elder

[normal hedge]

in that case yes, theres a penalty

[tacit crow]

hey sage x

[opal ingot]

just check augs + imprints + annuls + 1 dominance vs 2 dominances

[mental nymph]

so guess i settle for 70d here

[forest flower]

cos even in my typical betrayal runs i'm now pulling 20m/hour instead of the usual 30

[mental nymph]

should be comfortable for profit

[opal ingot]

hey kafka

[tacit crow]

you forgot the x

[opal ingot]

hey kafka x

[tacit crow]

hey x

[normal hedge]

stop kissing each other

[forest flower]

i call next

[opal ingot]

look at how fucked my standard flasks are gonna be

[normal hedge]

i'm blind

ty sage

[tranquil sedge]

basically
u have one magic glove with desired influence mod
(make 1 imprint here for safety)
beastlock it
now hover work orb of other influence mod over it
if u get what u want, done, click it
if not, reset lock and repeat

more advance tech:
prepare multiple donor bases with desired 2nd influence mod (base 1 = desired mod, base 2 = desired mod + any one other influence mod, base 3 = desired mod + 2 other influence mods) and then hover each of them in turn at each lock attempt

this is a very tl;dr and glosses over things like how to prep bases, which mod you wanna hover vs. which to lock, etc.

[dim turtle]

actual flashbang

[opal ingot]

1800d for the 80% inc crate legacy diamond
180d for the legacy 30% ms
and 50d for the legacy 17% atk speed

[opal ingot]

ure welcome

[tranquil sedge]

why are you using excel

instead of pob

[mental nymph]

whats the lock name?

[tranquil sedge]

idk apply hinekora lock to a magic item or smth its called

[split palm]

hm

[forest flower]

my eyes thank you

[split palm]

do I want to keep that

[tranquil sedge]

this is either genius or mentally challenged

[opal ingot]

more likely the latter honestly

will a double shrine belt beat a legacy flask double implicit mageblood

[tranquil sedge]

only one way to find out

excel!

[forest flower]

huh what's a legacy flask do?

[opal ingot]

💯

it does legacy things

[mental nymph]

found it,thx

[forest flower]

[opal ingot]

like giving you 30% ms on suffix, or 80% inc crate on suffix, or 17% inc attack speed on suffix

[mental nymph]

i'm newbie to crafting so....

[forest flower]

30% MS on suffix

HO LEE

[opal ingot]

noice

[forest flower]

i'm guessing all those mods only affect you?

[fossil mural]

now vaal

[forest flower]

and not minions?

[tawdry olive]

pob booster 69 flask

[fossil mural]

68*

[forest flower]

btw what's the same of the crafting simulator if i want to practice recombinating?

[opal ingot]

i bought this for around 80 divs cheaper. and since its above ilvl 20 i can use beastlocks to annul and slam until i get 25% inc effect

[opal ingot]

im sorry my friend... there's no simulator for recomb

#1490214356485672960 just read this

[forest flower]

i know i'm halfway through it

i was hoping there was one

[untold umbra]

what methods are used for farming mirrors currently

im in standard so wont be hard to make a setup for it

[forest flower]

cos i saw someone posting in #1┃crafting-advice about simulating

[meager sorrel]

i need to keep repeating myself that people who dont know how to make a build with as little as 30d miss creativity

[forest flower]

i think it's more like

[lean urchin]

i just fear "wasting my time" failing, therefore i RF

[untold umbra]

there isnt any official ones

[forest flower]

i can't make a build unless i know what i'm capable of

[untold umbra]

all i know is theres some random githubs with ''recomb simulating'' but no clue if theyre legit or if theyre just malware lol

[forest flower]

like i could spend many divines and one day someone says "hey btw what you're trying to achieve can be done with just a single jewel"

and i'd tilt off the face of the earth

i tend to play very risk averse but eventually i thought about it and was like

what's the point of playing a crafting game without at least trying it

[opal ingot]

foulborn choir of the storm last league was so cheap 🥹

[frigid wedge]

we have no way of increasing the rate of cast while channelling other than levels right

[frigid wedge]

yes bc everyone was runnin breach

[opal ingot]

and now its a trillion bucks in standard

[frigid wedge]

oh right

thats bc its the second most overpowered item on standard rn

[fossil mural]

it was ugh

nerfed

[forest flower]

wouldn't this be generally very popular for lightning builds

[fossil mural]

thats why

[frigid wedge]

no

[opal ingot]

yeah i just posted that because i wish i bought it last league

i knew i shouldve kept like a copy of each cool fb unique

[frigid wedge]

its expensive in standard because the bugged chest gives u 64 mana per flat mana with chieftain and fb choir rn

[fossil mural]

no?

its expensive because legacy

[frigid wedge]

glorp

[fossil mural]

you cant get 50% anymore

[frigid wedge]

u have

23000 fire res

[opal ingot]

there are some legacies that still aren't a mirror like DoD

[frigid wedge]

half it for ur lightning res

half it for ur increased mana

[fossil mural]

bro getting choir isnt difficult

just do some breach

its the legacy versions that cost a lot

[opal ingot]

the bugged chest is a HUGE factor as to why the ammy is expensive

[frigid wedge]

yes, but its expensive anyway

[granite grotto]

I'm glad I moved 2 over from league, now I just need to lock corrupt it for 7% int

[split palm]

bleeeehhhhh

getting +2 maxres

[opal ingot]

the highest dod is just 60 divs (in standard)

[split palm]

is so baaaad

[frigid wedge]

thats a very big dod wtf

[opal ingot]

i bought the wrong fb choir of the storm

so i lose the 20% inc mana

for a +3 maxres i wont even use

at least its slightly more expensive

[split palm]

gj

[final owl]

somehow there are always more foulbourn variations than i realise exist

[dim turtle]

cortex is 1c off funny/slightly funny number someone fix it

[rose quail]

be the change you want to see in the world

[frigid wedge]

topic of uh, fb choir i need to pob smth with that

[dim turtle]

if i convert divs to chaos 1 more time i will cry

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

i've spent so much gold this league doing that

[dim turtle]

13 fogs didnt hit

[tranquil sedge]

at least 10m gold just on div to chaos
maybe 15-20m even not keeping track

[dim turtle]

yeah its annoying af

[normal hedge]

LMAO

[dim turtle]

just let me get my phys cluster man

[tranquil sedge]

does it have to be phys

[tranquil umbra]

it took me like 10 fogs to hit lightninf

[dim turtle]

21 fogs

[tranquil umbra]

what notables are you going for

[tranquil sedge]

did u specifically need phys for smth

[tranquil umbra]

srev it's the notables

[dim turtle]

its

to get

this fuckass fracture

thats mid but

i want decent enough frenzy source

for mapping

[tranquil sedge]

can we see ur pob

alternatively are you using blood rage

[opal ingot]

when will they drop a foil megablood

[frigid wedge]

ring mod from syndicate

[dim turtle]

im kinda using ring to fix attri + have hp + dmg rn

[tribal saffron]

Doing my end of league gambles, dudes....I just got my first ever mirror

[dim turtle]

had frenzy on kill on rnig before

[tranquil sedge]

yea ring frenzy on kill veiled mod, blood rage, couple sources from tree depending on where u are, etc

[dim turtle]

what i have now frees me up

[tranquil sedge]

dont turn this in for a mirror

its probably worth more than 1 mirror in card form
check first, always

[heady cliff]

is house of mirrors still a lot more expensive than whole mirror?

[normal hedge]

yes

[heady cliff]

or gambaers switched to damnation?

[normal hedge]

thats for any gamba card

or mirror shards

[heady cliff]

not for any actually

mirror shard card usually is barely inflated

[opal ingot]

most of the high values

[tranquil sedge]

damnation is still v expensive

[opal ingot]

there you go

[heady cliff]

19 mirror shards one

[dim turtle]

ok hitting my other 2 notables should be free

[opal ingot]

so i bought a twwt for a mirror then i realized i forgot to remove the perfect roll

and now there are a fuckton of twwts with 1-2 more good rolls for just hundreds of divs

[tacit crow]

@opal ingot we need you

dr recomb

[opal ingot]

what

[untold umbra]

what do i run for exp?

[opal ingot]

i am in deep sorrow

[tranquil sedge]

solo? breach
paid service? 5 ways

[untold umbra]

so far ive been doing delirium + breach but its pretty inconsistent

[untold umbra]

kk

[twin folio]

yo sage is there an exclusive suffix i can use for str/int gloves to

[ebon hatch]

chat, I discovered THE INTERROGATION. this is oneof the bestest unique jewel period, a million crit chance, ele pen, reduce enemy damage all in one small packege

[opal ingot]

cant even sell reflected ele damage because everyone runs woke wed

[tribal saffron]

Breach with mobs multis

[opal ingot]

literally eveyr veiled mod can be an exclusive suffix

[twin folio]

alrighty ty

[opal ingot]

hybrid chaos

[tranquil sedge]

now discover how to do more dps so oshabi doesn't live long enough to take a screenshot

[opal ingot]

hybrid stat, hybrid chaos

[untold umbra]

unstable i assume

but yeah do i just take 1 breach scarab and rest with mob multi?

[ebon hatch]

i two shoted her

[tranquil sedge]

nice

now work up to 1shot 😄

[ebon hatch]

sheesh

[heady cliff]

if you have a fast character, just 4 domi scarabs is good enough usually and 10x easier compared to breach

thats a budget version

[untold umbra]

oh i only have 4 slots unlocked lol

[tribal saffron]

I usually do 2x unstable, 2x extra magic mob size, and then one deli

[tranquil sedge]

sir prioritize getting 5 slots in any league asap

wat do u need for last slot

nightmare or maven 10way?

[untold umbra]

nightmare

[ebon hatch]

anyway my point is everyone go and buy yourself THE INTERROGATION, its the best thing to slot into your hole

[tranquil sedge]

ign?

[tribal saffron]

Need a carry?

[heady cliff]

you get exp by getting accel shrine and clearing the map in 30-60 seconds

ignoring boss

[untold umbra]

i play standard not mirage if you think im in that

[tranquil sedge]

oh

i did think that 😄

[untold umbra]

i should be able to do them i just havent got to that point

[heady cliff]

high maps/hour stat make pure shrines exp quite good

and nothing could be easier tbh

[astral brook]

holy fk i have underestimated ulti

i got like 4 sacrifice 8d get 16 in 1 map

including mirage

[untold umbra]

i assume i need to do these things for nightmare map?

[cobalt blade]

at the cost of 20-50% inc dmg taken from shock

[untold umbra]

ait glad i got one of the maps atleast lol

[tranquil sedge]

why are shrines good
they just spawn lots of monsters and shrine buffs goodge?

[astral brook]

question tho

im doing it with rf would cws handle it better

[untold umbra]

which one is top right again? what boss

[cobalt blade]

also close monsters to proc beyond

[heady cliff]

you clear the maps extremely fast

[tranquil sedge]

[heady cliff]

no, dont even run beyond

[tranquil sedge]

ic

[cobalt blade]

its correct if its not killing u

for xp

[heady cliff]

pure shrines are like 1/2 of juiced breach exp while being 5x cheaper and 10x easier

[restive nova]

does it reduce only gear drop chance?