1┃general

[tranquil sedge]

meh

theres a level of diminishing returns im sure they dont give a shit beyond

[opal ingot]

thank FUCK i have a legacy adorned

like

[tranquil sedge]

at the very least i know that im doing my part lol, if i never spend another $ on this game im a net drain on their compute costs and that's a positive thing for me

[full kraken]

god no, squeezing soup out of a stone to get every last dollar is absolutely all companies care about

[opal ingot]

what fucking possessed me to not sell my legacy adorned when i didn't give a shit about standard back then

[full kraken]

they will 100% milk the cow dry

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[opal ingot]

like i just sell all my shit before standard

[cobalt blade]

im still sitting on a 148 in standard incase i wanna do memes

[opal ingot]

it was divine intervention

[tranquil sedge]

i played rs3 for like 14 years, i get the feeling

[opal ingot]

i have a 144, i lose like 5% of everything but its still poggers

[tranquil sedge]

just get @split maple to gamble some adorneds for you if you ever need

[cobalt blade]

or sorry 146* double checked

[tranquil sedge]

i tagged the wrong person

i meant u sage

[cobalt blade]

also some double corrupted magebloods of varying implicits there lol

[opal ingot]

why would you say that...

[full kraken]

jeebus

[opal ingot]

id like to buy ur inc% intelligence and crit flask for 20c

[cobalt blade]

weirdly never hit a inc int% one

best one is grace determ

[tranquil sedge]

i'll offer 21 c

[opal ingot]

wait isn't it prime time to buy megablood this league

[tranquil sedge]

(it is)

[cobalt blade]

then crit chance crit multi % str atk speed and some varying other okay ones

[cobalt blade]

yeah its before people start quit gambling them too

[opal ingot]

fuck

[cobalt blade]

or maybe right around that point

[blazing spear]

on the subject of the vls spammer, pf instead of slayer

and pb for overleech

[full kraken]

gonna see how deep I can push my build in delve now methinks

[normal hedge]

how you gonna fix the downside

[blazing spear]

tainted pact

[normal hedge]

And what else

That alone doenst fix it

[blazing spear]

and divine flesh and purity of ice watcher and sublime

[opal ingot]

HOLY SHIT LMAO

[cobalt blade]

it can if u get a few hundred k recovery off it

[blazing spear]

and annihilation's approach

[normal hedge]

No, the issue is the Leech duration vs vls duration

[opal ingot]

in other leagues this wouldve been mirrors

?

i think?

[tranquil sedge]

new belts

[opal ingot]

idk i dont check double implicit magebloods

[tranquil sedge]

double corrupts are surprisingly cheap atm

[blazing spear]

pb methinks

[opal ingot]

i gotta snipe one

foil mageblood and good stats

and good color

[cobalt blade]

ah ye thats the downide of not being slayer

slayer dura hard fixes that

lol

[normal hedge]

No

You still need to reduce vls duration lol

[cobalt blade]

you just need it to be below 10 sec for slayer

[full kraken]

also I gotta say if you really wanna be humiliated by other gamers, its very easy, all you have to do is post your character profile in the chat here

[cobalt blade]

whichi think naturally it is lmao

[blazing spear]

This is what I'm doing

[full kraken]

people in #1┃general are the folks to come to if you want your pob to be roasted

[blazing spear]

I will link swift affliction, less duration, use magebane and reduced skill effect and use a dusk ring

I will also use doryani

I will also anoint hasty demise

[tranquil sedge]

well go talk about it somewhere else, this is pretty cringe

[clear valley]

You’re cringe loser

[spice pecan]

why is this guy still in the server

this isn't the first time he's done this shit

fucking gross

[clear valley]

Shut your mouth little man

[full kraken]

dawg literally folded in 0.1 seconds in real time about enjoying being made fun of

[clear valley]

Imagine talking about path of exile like an autistic person

[tawdry olive]

i honestly prefer that than getting zero attention so you have no idea there's some simple fixes

[opal ingot]

bama so dead no one wants it in standard

[normal hedge]

<@&174997701513969665>

[blazing spear]

This place endured my horrid theorycrafting. We do not need your low quality comments

[clear valley]

Snitch

[tranquil sedge]

tf

300d?

[spice pecan]

no crucible

[full kraken]

wrong enchant, you want "increases and reductions to minion damage apply to you at 200%" or whatever it was in boat league

[blazing spear]

Many people here have autism

[opal ingot]

this was my bama bow on i think merc league

[full kraken]

that enchant is an insane dps boost for bama

[opal ingot]

tried to sell it immediately

[full kraken]

cuz it double dips, note

[opal ingot]

amazing

[opal ingot]

i was way more ambitious

[blazing spear]

Yours truly included

[opal ingot]

i think ill lower it to 200d

then 100d every month

[tranquil sedge]

oh thats yours

l0l

[full kraken]

lets say you have 120% inc minion dmg on the bow

You have 120% inc minion dmg
and your clones have 240% inc dmg cuz they are holding it

so it effectively triples the mod

so it becomes 360% inc dmg total

[stuck phoenix]

E

[full kraken]

its bonkers

[stuck phoenix]

I don't remember

Also smh just use modmail

[visual stream]

bama still find no ? i mean the nerf its durations and 25% damaged but the build still ditch out milions of damaged on basic gear no ?

[normal hedge]

please read @clear valley messages, i dont think this person should even be here

[opal ingot]

yeah its more than fine but the common sentiment is that they're dead

[full kraken]

I wouldnt be surprised if its pretty good currently, with some of the stuff we can do and have

[stuck phoenix]

I gave them a timeout already

Thinking about it

[tranquil sedge]

their entire chat history is just cringe

[visual stream]

yeah i try it abit but dont really see the issue with its damaged

[blazing spear]

me neither

[visual stream]

still quite on crack if i have to said

[crisp plinth]

people always cry when you lose 20% of insane dmg

[blazing spear]

I proposed vls spam

[crisp plinth]

while its still fine

[normal hedge]

rem

[full kraken]

for what its worth, it was way more than 20%

[opal ingot]

it was slightly more than 50% total dps loss without changing anything, but adjusting it, you should be fine

[crisp plinth]

doesnt change the message

[opal ingot]

previe got like i think 110m dps on pure chaos damage this league?

[crisp plinth]

its still capable you just build it different

[visual stream]

the only issue i hate on bama is its hard to config the real damaged on pob but beside that its still pretty much fine

[full kraken]

also tbh bama took another big nerf this league since it was a minion bow build so it lost like 4 woke gems

[opal ingot]

with the signature gamer defensive layers

[crisp plinth]

yeah but you can play og bama again

with double more duration

all my homies like chaining and piercing and forking

[blazing spear]

yea?

[visual stream]

isnt that a minion nerf oveall since its affect everyone

[full kraken]

also, ngl, Im a little sad that ggg introduced basically zero phys exceptional gems

[full kraken]

true yup

like Im playing phys impale and Ive realized I have zero exceptional gems that apply to my build, like not even a bit

[visual stream]

we been bonezone and slam for like 4 league now

[cobalt blade]

youll take your bloodsoaked banner and enjoy it

[visual stream]

ur hope is vain

[blazing spear]

bloodsoaked banner is aids

[cobalt blade]

me fr

[cobalt blade]

yeh

[crisp plinth]

time to go use a good weapon and shockwave

[visual stream]

playing with banner is quite ass

[crisp plinth]

[cobalt blade]

has okay damage but seems awful playstyle

[blazing spear]

I called POE an autism game

[cobalt blade]

yuh :3

[full kraken]

I always was of the opinion that woke gems just being strictly better was bad design

I feel like woke gems should have had a downside, and not "they are rarer" but like actually a downside to using them

Either:
A: Way bigger mana multiplier
or
B: Way way higher attribute requirement

or something like that, where yeah its a better gem but at a cost

[split palm]

Hi naca

[cobalt blade]

hihi

[full kraken]

but instead ggg just made woke gems strictly better always and you just had to use them

[blazing spear]

Also, what should I run on pf?

[crisp plinth]

bama

[blazing spear]

i will do vls spam pf with pb

[opal ingot]

useless if no overleech?

[visual stream]

toxic rain

[cobalt blade]

kinda just useless

[blazing spear]

the flask nodes and master toxicist with priest of yaomac on the chaos bloodline?

[cobalt blade]

since u cap leech on any good build anyway

maybe like a dot build could use it ig

[normal hedge]

even on bad builds ig

[full kraken]

like imagine if woke gems had like 200+ attribute reqs so you couldnt easily just throw em in for an "off" attribute

like if you are an int build you can fit in the blue ones, but you definitely arent fitting in a woke green gem easily

[opal ingot]

thanks

[full kraken]

flaks nodes already use up all 6 of your points :x

[split palm]

oh wow, it actually auto-updated without me having to do anything

[blazing spear]

no

nature's boon and nature's adrenaline

[split palm]

new cool cluster

[visual stream]

vaal it

[cobalt blade]

if ur not stat stacking currently your more than likely playing supreme ost and ignoring att requirement and if your stat stacking you get enough generic flat att from reflected items youd be able to equip it

[short prairie]

seer my man

[blazing spear]

I will also forbidden the +1 tincture from warden

[visual stream]

vaal it

[spice pecan]

unethical, delete immediately

[split palm]

temple -> vaal

[cobalt blade]

that a limitation like that kinda just fucks over a less optimized build

[visual stream]

temple is for rookie true gambla just throw raw vaal

[full kraken]

supreme ost has a huge downside of "not being able to use a different timeless keystone" which is a cost many many builds cant pay

[visual stream]

[cobalt blade]

yep and i still stand by what i said by statistics lol

around 20% of ppl on ninja are currently supreme ost

[short prairie]

NO

ill nver vaal somethign i dont have a spare of

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[short prairie]

i cant type

[full kraken]

are they all playing different builds or basically all playing the same one or two builds

[cobalt blade]

different

[split palm]

wait, you are ssf

cring

[cobalt blade]

it enables eclipse support people like eclipse

[full kraken]

like "20% of people are playing supreme ost" is whatever if its also "20% of people are playing the same things"

[split palm]

something sold

[cobalt blade]

well its literally just different builds

alot are minion pact bv

but it barely gets past 1/3rd of them

also enables fun stuff like full tree tattooing

[full kraken]

yeah no fair enough that is a lot of diversity

[cobalt blade]

ye

[full kraken]

thats a pretty good point

[blazing spear]

do you know what's a shame? I am forced to run divine flesh

[cobalt blade]

the horror

[blazing spear]

so no supreme ostentation

[split palm]

issue with supreme ost for me

500div pls

[cobalt blade]

time for mahuxotl shield

[blazing spear]

this means I cannot tattoo all int nodes with chance to poison

[split palm]

in the end, it's like 650d total cost for 150ish mil dps

[cobalt blade]

worth it

[blazing spear]

Naca, you forgot that 3 sockets are dedicated to making vaal temptation less crippling and to vaal temptation itself

And mahuxotl is painful

[cobalt blade]

im not forgetting :3

mahuxotl was joke suggestion anyway

it kinda hard bricks you i think?

[blazing spear]

I need to make an 11l pneumatic dagger

No one made one IIRC

[cobalt blade]

since deletes overleech

and well have fun trying to sustain it off instant leech

[split palm]

it's just diabolical

[opal ingot]

ripperoni

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-good-barney-ross-sylvester-stallone-the-expendables-no-thanks-gif-2506915326456524407

[icy swan]

why this leage died faster than last one if ppl said its best leage since ever

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-gif-1251875630135871970

[spice pecan]

oh no

[split palm]

I was like, why the fuck is my dps so low

looks inside+

weapon swap

[spice pecan]

widowhail pog

[opal ingot]

is the craft a legacy?

[vernal ravine]

lot of other games launched at the same time, d2r, wow, slay the spire 2, mewgenics, etc.

[opal ingot]

how do u get 2

[blazing spear]

I have to craft this piece of shit

[opal ingot]

or is this multimod annul multi

[vernal ravine]

yeah quant doesn't exist anymore

[full kraken]

time of year

[blazing spear]

And the servers were raided

[opal ingot]

sorry i meant the crafted mods

[split palm]

I find it funny that marathon fucking DIED

[opal ingot]

like how does bro get leeching and flask effect

[cobalt blade]

statistically it hasnt based on steam number estimation

[split palm]

basically

[cobalt blade]

and the data set everyone uses for league retention on poedb

[cobalt blade]

holy

[blazing spear]

@cobalt blade what do you think?

[cobalt blade]

have fun with recombs

[split palm]

better than harvest bench hell

[opal ingot]

6 fucking mods!? goodluck LMAO

[vernal ravine]

no those are noormal glove crafted mods

[split palm]

I spent like half a million purple juice yesterday

[opal ingot]

let me guess, multimod annul the multimod?

[split palm]

reforging fire

[vernal ravine]

yes

[opal ingot]

thanks big bro

[vernal ravine]

the life/mana is an unveil

[split palm]

worth it in the end tbh

[vernal ravine]

so also could have been veiled ex

[opal ingot]

pretty weird he'd choose an unveil here, mana is slightly more and regen life is useless on his build cuz he's ci lol probably just too tiring to craft it

[blazing spear]

Not all mods are mandatory IMO

[split palm]

also had this, but decided do not want it, was pain to make

[opal ingot]

wait, this is eldritch so u could just easily eldritch the prefixes

[split palm]

eldritch is kind of easy mode

after you finish half the item

[cobalt blade]

isnt it multi mod annuled off multi mod slam t1 attack speed

[opal ingot]

yeh

[cobalt blade]

how are u eldritching pre

[opal ingot]

i uhh.

umm

next question

[cobalt blade]

[split palm]

guess who was running the wrong pantheon

[opal ingot]

let me check it in coe

[split palm]

good thing I didn'T do breach xd

[opal ingot]

i have a bit of phys dmg

damn

using a reflect flask for mageblood seems wasteful

[split palm]

xd

but full fire convert

[blazing spear]

this will be my cope weapon

[opal ingot]

@normal hedge im too lazy to check can you use your memory to know where fubgun gets his other 50% phys conversion

50% from gloves and

[split palm]

skill?

[opal ingot]

oh

la

fuck

[normal hedge]

la has 50% imbued

[split palm]

LA has 50% innate

that'S why he goes 50% cold and 0% ltn

[normal hedge]

but the real question is

[split palm]

which basically makes it perfect for trinity

[normal hedge]

why u're looking at LA

[split palm]

^

[sharp crow]

Is there issues with website logins? Or is it just me?

[split palm]

probably you

[sharp crow]

try logging into poe website

[normal hedge]

i just did

like 1 minute ago

[split palm]

works fine

[sharp crow]

when i try to login captcha doesnt appear

[steel light]

banned

[normal hedge]

its on your end

do you have a vpn?

[sharp crow]

Im not connected to it

[normal hedge]

well, try it

[candid stag]

is minion pact bv chieftain budget and league start friendly? or should i play RF and transition into it? or is even sunder more budget friendly than rf

[spice pecan]

not league start friendly

but you could probably build a budget version starting at like 60d ish

[normal hedge]

prolly even worse on console

[steel light]

worse, incognito mode cause poe is porn

[split palm]

I forgot to make the m rare xd

[candid stag]

what about sunder

[spice pecan]

yeah if you're on console i have no idea what the price would be like but it's not exactly budget and not league start friendly

[cobalt blade]

could be getting blocked by an aggresive adblocker

[split palm]

leaguestart friendly, but a single gem costs like 80div

[sharp crow]

dude thanks it helped

[spice pecan]

sunder is like the most popular skill for levelling

[normal hedge]

people dont map with sunder, but theres a lot of good slams

[split palm]

KF good

[candid stag]

i dont like rf really. everything is expensive on ps5 market as eveeyone play rf. but sunder seems cheap and good. bleed.

[steel light]

these 2 are searing and eltrich 28th's invitation?

[candid stag]

just wanna farm currency. can sunder do this?

[split palm]

ye

[normal hedge]

if you wanna play bleed then play ground slam of earthshaking instead of sunder

phazeplays has a leaguestarter video

[steel light]

play vfos

[split palm]

igood start

[normal hedge]

actually, vfos is fine for clear

[candid stag]

i just want something thats easy to gear relatively. no crazy uniques and can run a decnt atlas

ok

[split palm]

29% pog

[normal hedge]

either earthshatter hit based or earthshaking bleed

[split palm]

@steel light you know the cluster yesternight

well, I have used it for zero seconds and made a different one

[steel light]

it was this morning for me iirc

[visual stream]

earthshaking bleed feel much better imo

earthshatter u need to play piano stuff

[split palm]

well, maybe, made this, sadly can't have force mult and widespread

[steel light]

he's console

[dense rock]

How bad does it feel to play builds that require aiming on console?

Or does it just "lock in" on nearest enemy and calls it a day? 😄

[split palm]

nimis required probably

[visual stream]

im heared that like try to write without hand

[steel light]

can't believe u made a deadend combination

[dense rock]

makese sense 😄

[split palm]

it's not my fault

It was like

3AM or something

[normal hedge]

dunno, but i assume its bad

[blazing spear]

Apparently, with the big less duration tech, I have 0.72s soul gain duration prevention on VLS, which translates to 864 damage dealt by every Vaal Temptation stack

[steel light]

https://theodorejbieber.github.io/PoEClusterJewelCalculator/

[normal hedge]

holyshit widowhails are 100c on console

[spice pecan]

for a decent one?

[normal hedge]

the shittiest one

[spice pecan]

like as in 6L + decent roll

[normal hedge]

3l 140%

[spice pecan]

wtf

[opal ingot]

tf am i reading this right

[spice pecan]

console league or std

[opal ingot]

so like runegraft treachery shenanigans?

[normal hedge]

league

[spice pecan]

god console is so cooked

[opal ingot]

or maybe a blood stance

[dense rock]

I remember back in the day trying to play on console and the moment i realized that the ENTIRE TRADE MARKET is just a stash chest in the city with practically no way to filter and just 904130948510347895019457 tabs of random bullshit people are trying to sell

Practically ssf trade league 😄

[split palm]

my tabulahail very nice

[normal hedge]

ballista/totem on console must be the goat

[split palm]

oh

a decent one

that's a first this league

where loot

[dense rock]

you will pick up the 1c splinters and you will be happy with what you got

[normal hedge]

why BbB doenst have a singular ailment bonus

🥀

[full kraken]

more gambling :3

[blazing spear]

Just how fast can you spam VLS on average?

How many attacks per second?

[normal hedge]

i'm not sure what u're asking

but i remember i could just hold the buttom til blue screen

[blazing spear]

I am trying to see how many stacks of vaal temptation can be applied per second

[crisp plinth]

is there a good way to get duration for minions/bama on items besides timepiece and the rings?

[full kraken]

duration wheel left of witch

if you go poison, then efficacy support does double duty

[dark kite]

"on items"

[full kraken]

oh, inc duration, uhhhh

[cobalt blade]

theres dusk ring

you can 5:1 that to get a non mirroed one and craft it with actual stats

[crisp plinth]

that seems interesting ty

[opal ingot]

no mirror item i wand on echo and settlers. guess ill craft this one for myself

[split palm]

guess what I farm with an inventory preset like that

[cobalt blade]

have fun lock slamming atk speed

[opal ingot]

we raw dog it

[cobalt blade]

(if you actually want the essence int)

[opal ingot]

ye

[cobalt blade]

gl

[blazing spear]

@astral shadow found my final build: vls spam pf

[gritty epoch]

has ben won gauntlet yet

[blazing spear]

idk

[cosmic raptor]

gamba gamba

[opal ingot]

ty mate

[cosmic raptor]

portal scrolls and wisdom scrolls

[split palm]

Minions have (4 to 5)% increased maximum Life
(4 to 5)% increased Global Physical Damage
+(4 to 5)% to Fire Resistance

Synth copium

surely I will synth one cluster and get it, right

because it works like that

(need to be in beast hell with refracting frogs)

[cosmic raptor]

i like frogs

[blazing spear]

I have an idea: Lethe Shade

[split palm]

buit jokes aside, refracting frogs added insane cluster synth potential I just realized

[blazing spear]

I can run Stormshroud

[split palm]

since you can get quite literally any synth from any cluster

[blazing spear]

it's op

[astral shadow]

Eww

[dark kite]

you mean refracting fogs?

[blazing spear]

wdym theorycrafting it was so fun

[astral shadow]

Go play wardloop

[blazing spear]

why?

[opal ingot]

plz respond

[split maple]

What 2x temple flask tides of time server crashes setup?

I think eri was looking at that while ago

[blazing spear]

NO ONE ELSE is playing it

[split palm]

pardon

[blazing spear]

I will run tainted pact and annihilation's approach and divine flesh and purity of ice

[astral shadow]

Its good mirror sink, build is only good to blind people with ur 40 cast per second

[blazing spear]

Yea, but vls spam deals damage

And theorycrafting it is cool

[astral shadow]

It also deals dmg around 100m unoptimized

Can do 1b

[blazing spear]

The best part is that no one else plays it

[full kraken]

gotta keep gambling lol

1/46 chance we will hit it eventually

[blazing spear]

dm'd you some stuff, pls accept my req

[split palm]

what are you trying to hit

cbi?

[short prairie]

https://pobb.in/0F3hoelCYBmK so...my build is kind of done?

[blazing spear]

cringe

[normal hedge]

nice you fixed it

[cosmic raptor]

cringe?

[split maple]

Don't boots go up to +2

[lean urchin]

senses

[split maple]

Doesn't feel finished

There is like 3 months left or so

[cosmic raptor]

waiting for poe2

[crisp plinth]

huh

[short prairie]

i dont have orb of dom

[cosmic raptor]

huh

[short prairie]

[crisp plinth]

3 more months? rip

[split maple]

Yet

[short prairie]

yes 96 is pretty good

[split maple]

Back to sirus

[short prairie]

i have 2 wokers alr

[cosmic raptor]

game for boomers

[split maple]

Or idk smh like that offhand swap snapshot

Saw it in poeladder discord today

[short prairie]

i dont want to delve

pls kill me instead

[crisp plinth]

into the mine you go

[short prairie]

[crisp plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQmqVNxo9oA your soundtrack

[cosmic raptor]

xd

[blazing spear]

I HAVE AN IDEA TO FORGO PB!

Foulborn Soul Tether

[split palm]

can also do boots

but off-hand kinda screams

spend 500d on a jewel

for supreme ost.

[cosmic raptor]

meow meow

[blazing spear]

I need to reserve a tiny amount of life

I must not be on full life because the recover ES component of Immortal Ambition kicks in

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/pspspsps-neature-walk-neature-gif-17509511

[cosmic raptor]

[lean urchin]

first mod, ok i want that for jun, but scarab? nooo

minor thing i hate from tree

[split palm]

a third jewel has hit the market...

[bleak quiver]

cuteDog_ spotted, buy it out

control the market

[low lava]

😂

[viral hatch]

Killed Aul for the first time in my career at level 280 I will accept all congratulations at this time thank you

[cosmic raptor]

buy all 3 of them and list for 1 mirror each

[crisp obsidian]

Wow congratz so proud of you, pop off girlie

[tacit crow]

sushi himself added my dagger to his shop

https://tenor.com/view/meme-bob-esponja-gif-2904459546447199840

[cosmic raptor]

who?

[split palm]

I think that's not true

[heady cliff]

on low ilvl item seems true

[tacit crow]

land suffixes then wild bristle matron, slam them scour

till +socketed

[zealous flax]

hai kaf

[warm mortar]

Which "Area is inhibited by ..." mod causes dark expanding circles that explode after killing a certain enemy?

[split palm]

or maybe even this, should be WAY easier to hit

[viral hatch]

I also got Celestial Hideout in the first few attempts years ago but that kind of luck is like a normal Tuesday for me

[split palm]

just cost me 35d

[spice pecan]

gross

[split palm]

and another 5d to finish it off

[low lava]

interesting weapon

[short prairie]

Where’s socketed str gems

[foggy elm]

the fuck

[cosmic raptor]

stacked deck

pick it up

[foggy elm]

I got it

[cosmic raptor]

ty

[heady cliff]

gz with a stacked deck

[split palm]

would be nice to have, but alas, unlucky

[cosmic raptor]

open it for damnation

[split palm]

not really willing to spend more

for now

[mental nymph]

Hi chat

[split maple]

[mental nymph]

Esm I have a question

Did you try beast farming this league ?

[split maple]

did like 20 maps early when i needed matron

didnt get matron

[mental nymph]

Kekw

[mental nymph]

So I guess it's not as consistent as harvest in income

[split maple]

depends on samplesize ig

like morigan is 1 duper pair per 20 maps on avg

well was last league, idk how buff to harvest beasties impacted that

[mental nymph]

Per 20 maps seems like it sucks lol

[split maple]

how much are frogs rn?

[split maple]

point is to have 40sec maps

so run them scoured and only kill good beasties

[mental nymph]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/economy/mirage/beasts

[mental nymph]

Harvest should be even faster

[low lava]

Yeeah

[mental nymph]

Since you open map enter harvest kill and leave

[cobalt blade]

i won

[split maple]

well both harvest and beasts should be pretty good rn

one due to gamba

[mental nymph]

I assume you need specific maps for vultures

[split maple]

the other due to frogs and shit

[split maple]

i wish

[mental nymph]

Kekw

[split maple]

would let us target farm them again

[low lava]

Been trying to get jewels, and it does not like me 😂

[split maple]

thats a mirr right?

[split palm]

1m?

[mental nymph]

They nerfed that ?lolol

[split maple]

removed kirac missions

like now its just global pool

[mental nymph]

Ah

[split maple]

and vulture is the only beastie that didnt get drop rate buff to compensate

[cobalt blade]

2

[split maple]

now you can make a loan to kafka

[cobalt blade]

[split palm]

lucky you

[low lava]

i just love that my tree is on jewels too. But never drops jewels 😂

[split palm]

same

[split maple]

you reducing attributes?

[split palm]

obv lol

[low lava]

Im not. Not needed for jewels ?

[split maple]

needed to remove other crap from pool

[cobalt blade]

is what im doing

[cobalt blade]

it cuts the shit that isnt jewels though

[low lava]

Ah yeah, true that

[cobalt blade]

not sure tbh if foulborn gluttony is better or worse than reducing att

but rest is mandatory

imo

[low lava]

Yeah, i have the same setup. minus the less chance for stat XD

lol.. gotta love windows sometimes

[cosmic raptor]

best i got was inspired learning from the tree

was 230 div

[low lava]

got a hh, thats it

[tacit crow]

yo

[crisp plinth]

lower your carbon footprint by uninstalling all games

[low lava]

Me with only POE installed 😂

[tacit crow]

"yes tool developer" we all say in unison

[crisp plinth]

[tacit crow]

wait i need to craft synth jewels today

fuck my life

[low lava]

Im so tired of awake trade, not installing.

[tacit crow]

9.7bil > 10+ bil dps today

i feel it

[mental nymph]

Glgl

[tacit crow]

2 jewel recrafts, chest recraft and i think we are there

[split palm]

heh

[mental nymph]

Nice map

[low lava]

Noice, me no like sawblades tho

[dim turtle]

[marble flicker]

initially have a heist runner pf build with 560%ms. got an accelaration belt and converted to deadeye. This shit is so hard to control.

[cosmic raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-silly-goofy-top-text-gif-8766571965937312269

[dim turtle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1007797897699537018/1084877528897961984/D5C9642F-683E-40B4-BDD8-8BC510994763-1.gif

[cosmic raptor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1007797897699537018/1084877528897961984/D5C9642F-683E-40B4-BDD8-8BC510994763-1.gif

[native abyss]

post dogs instead

[spice pecan]

[cobalt blade]

[crisp plinth]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mlem-seal

[normal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466

[dim turtle]

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/dh9511dh-empty-wallet-hurt-look-away-gif-13355852

[granite bloom]

anyway to correct poe.ninja dps? my dps is clearly 35m+ (snipe 7 stages)

[low lava]

Not really

its how they calculate it

[split palm]

no

[split palm]

elder DPS

if I recall

[low lava]

Ah

Im tired of poe forgetting my graphics settings

[split palm]

another that could have been

[blazing spear]

can I get poisons to reflect with The Golden Rule while using Doryani's Prototype?

[spice pecan]

i think damaging ailments that deal zero damage just get removed?

not sure

[vapid junco]

anyone else feelin recoup actually good

even 30% is huge for my build

[icy zinc]

super sale hooooly

[native abyss]

rich wtf

[icy zinc]

the secret is using the alva scarab for temples

[native abyss]

[icy zinc]

also alva scarab overall

fuck chasing all these alva chance to spawn lol

you need entire left side of atlas

vs 1 scarab

[native abyss]

just saw a video about something like that and they switched scarabs when they saw the alva room they wanted

[cosmic raptor]

buy 7 years and bench it

[icy zinc]

yeah thats the deal

scarab is cheap though so you might as well not swap it out

[icy zinc]

the evil request

[native abyss]

true

[modest sparrow]

I didn't know ruthless players had a slur for non ruthless players wtf man

[lean urchin]

ruthenjoyers

[icy zinc]

ruthless are weird asf

[blazing spear]

poe2 is ruthless

[icy zinc]

justifying locking half of the features for no reason

well not really

poe 2 has all features unlocked

as the development cycles going on

ruth and ssf literal does not

forbidden flesh and flame? literally doesnt exist for ssf

[normal hedge]

its because theres only 5 of them

so no one actually cares

[split palm]

SSF, Ruthless and HC are just for unemployed/streamers tbh

[crisp obsidian]

Ggg really should allow divining F/F's in the same class e.g. you could divine any witch node to another witch node

[split palm]

and make them all worthless essentially?

[normal hedge]

not only that

[icy zinc]

shouldve been the case very next league after eldritch bosses

[normal hedge]

invitations also would be 1c

[icy zinc]

seems like it will be like this forever

[modest sparrow]

You're so right

[split palm]

I think current system is good

any FF can be worth 200d overnight

[crisp obsidian]

Oh noes items are not locked behind ultra rng and becomes less expensive? Oh noes

So sad 😔

[split palm]

having chase items is good actually

[icy zinc]

timeless jewels still is the most magnificent game mechanic in all of the games

[split palm]

let's make timeless jewel

[icy zinc]

maybe in same territory of skins quality in csgo weapons

[split palm]

rerollable with alts

same type of shit

[crisp obsidian]

What

[split palm]

suddenly none cost more than 10d

[crisp obsidian]

Timeless jewels are rollable already

[normal hedge]

yeah and theyre 1/100000 instead of 1/10

[crisp obsidian]

Let's make all timeless jewels corrupted

Chase items POG

[icy zinc]

nah im just saying how its anti ssf

[split palm]

the range is so high that you are stupid to actually roll one for the build

[icy zinc]

other than keystone ig

[split palm]

essentially how it works btw

at most you can 3:1 them

[crisp obsidian]

Incorrect

[icy zinc]

o hell na

[crisp obsidian]

They are rollable

[split palm]

who here rolls their timeless with divines UNIRONICALLY to hit one specific timeless you need?

[icy zinc]

people do corrupt some timeless jewels for implicit for memes

[crisp obsidian]

I have rolled timeless jewels with divines to see if I can hit nodes I want

[split palm]

jiji, please, roll me a 50280 caspiro

[crisp obsidian]

And succeeded many times

[icy zinc]

been a case in one the of the league starts when brutal restraint is like 1 div

[crisp obsidian]

L0l who rolls for specific timeless jewels

There's so many combinations that work or are good

[split palm]

yeah, that's the only one that works for me

the singular one

[normal hedge]

only 50280 has what shika wants

[crisp obsidian]

Bad build

[icy zinc]

thank god ppl farm 5way this league cause of the companionship jewel ngl

[crisp obsidian]

Make a better one

[normal hedge]

[icy zinc]

timeless fuckin JEWELS

do you know how many good seed elegant hubrises there are

that are not supreme ostentation keystone ones

(the ignore attrib)

[normal hedge]

dont think anyone besides 5way sellers farm it

[split palm]

i need supreme ost

[normal hedge]

and thats all they do every league

[crisp obsidian]

Probs 2250000

[icy zinc]

big number jiji big...

[crisp obsidian]

Yes

[icy zinc]

i have 30 tattoos on me for block chance

[split palm]

I have the bis, but not the correct conq

[icy zinc]

call it an investment

each block tat is 3 div

wts char 90 div

[split palm]

red nightmare with fire res

[icy zinc]

or lmk offer

50280 has to be like 150 div

is it not

[split palm]

550

with the correct conq

[icy zinc]

rest in pieces

[spice pecan]

does the conq actually matter in this case tho

[split palm]

this one is "just" 20d

[spice pecan]

like do you need supreme ostentation

[split palm]

yes

yes

[icy zinc]

i should reroll into diamond shrine belt with massive shrine ngl

[spice pecan]

O

[icy zinc]

800div only

[split palm]

with supreme ost I get like 200mil dps

on top

[opal ingot]

hooooly

[spice pecan]

unfortch

[opal ingot]

offer 20c

[icy zinc]

diamond shrine is so good though, you don't accuracy roll twice

in which case crit would be twice worse

[split palm]

i pay 25c naca

don't let sage scam you!!!!

[icy zinc]

tree giveth

unnaty

thats a mirror btw

[normal hedge]

its 2 i think

or more

[icy zinc]

bought scythe for $15

how my ass looks

[split palm]

2 mirrors

[icy zinc]

purple blop

gpu bad tho have to low setting it up

[mental nymph]

Ah you're struggling as well

Gotta endure

[icy zinc]

fr

[cobalt blade]

:3

[icy zinc]

lifes hard

smooth over pixels

[tacit crow]

nice jewel btw

[mental nymph]

Indeed

It does look like prices are getting lower again with time

So who knows

[cobalt blade]

thankies need to figure out wtf to do with it tho

[mental nymph]

Sell?

[tacit crow]

sell

[normal hedge]

sell and gamba all the divines

[mental nymph]

Or are you planing to use it in build ?

[cobalt blade]

tryna figure out if i wanna do a build with it

before selling

[crisp obsidian]

Checked prices few days ago, 32gibs of ddr5 costs more than best amd cpu 😭

[split maple]

Well duh do some fubgun style deadeye for 20div then slap that into frenetic socket

Just to flex

[icy zinc]

fb unnaty be like 2 builds in cost

[cobalt blade]

i mean its cheaper than my belt

[mental nymph]

Iirc ,it's the best brand tho no ?

[icy zinc]

good mobo matters too

[mental nymph]

32gb for 500$

[split palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1354564111710552104/1453144700168044740/LGCYbxW.gif

[icy zinc]

some cheap mobos get fried often

[cobalt blade]

:3

[split palm]

my build is like

[crisp obsidian]

For me it was any 32gb set lul

[icy zinc]

usb ports break, wifi port break, whateve else break, bios bug, os crash

[split palm]

4mirrors now total cost

your belt

[mental nymph]

Sheesh

[split palm]

costs similarly????????

[crisp obsidian]

Not that much for amd but yeah, mobos aren't expensive

[mental nymph]

Shipment cost and everything

Yeah just wait out

[icy zinc]

mageblood powercrept gg

[cobalt blade]

i think mines 3 2.4m of which is accel impen

[tacit crow]

kafka number build investment

[serene harness]

gg i guess?

[cobalt blade]

no

[tacit crow]

i troll

[tacit crow]

games just started

[cobalt blade]

if i was quitting league maybe tho but not yet

[serene harness]

gauntlet

[drowsy eagle]

get that graphics card

[tacit crow]

uber maven

[low lava]

Ai sometimes

[honest iris]

i rolled a build wheel for ssf and i got cleave/champion

it could’ve been worse but it definitely could’ve been better

[icy zinc]

Nice.

[spice pecan]

anything that isn't a spell is pretty playable on champ tbh

[mental nymph]

Don't give me a fish but teach me how to catch it

[crisp obsidian]

Holy unusable juice

[frigid wedge]

thats a fuckin child exalt

[icy zinc]

i kinda wonder why aboms 80 per hour and fortress 60 per hour

why so different?

[zealous flax]

Hows dps maxing going

[icy zinc]

mach speed 5

[zealous flax]

mach is a mesure of speed so you dont need to say speed

[crisp obsidian]

Mach speed

[zealous flax]

ye

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[icy zinc]

speed: mach

[zealous flax]

its like saying chai tea

[icy zinc]

although...

SPEED W

[zealous flax]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-miles-morales-i-love-chai-tea-chai-tea-tea-gif-4537088392959266195

[tawdry olive]

Atm machine

[icy zinc]

good to have some chai tea in the kitchen tho

care for a siip

[zealous flax]

chai means tea

your saying tea tea

[blazing spear]

ai slop is cringe

[dark sequoia]

Whats a fun defensive mechanic to build around?

I've been wanting to try a PB+MoM build

[zealous flax]

yes

[frigid wedge]

perma vaal discipline recharge

[icy zinc]

fun defense is controversial

[blazing spear]

I tried to build around Tainted Pact

[icy zinc]

you could as well just go lifestacker with defiance of destiny

unkillable

[tough cove]

the funnest defensive mechanism to build around is kill multiple screens at once

[blazing spear]

Unfortunately, Doryani disables it

[icy zinc]

75% max ele res vs 90% max ele res different is taking 150% more elemental damage

[dark sequoia]

what about MoM with foulborn defiance of destiny

[blazing spear]

It's the strongest recovery in the game

[tawdry olive]

Defense in general is controversial, if you don’t say “I use six portal” the mob comes to get you

[icy zinc]

i mean mom has potential for lategame thats why some valdorunners do mega mom builds

[icy zinc]

six portal defense for 100 lvl is kinda mandatory

you dont have anything to lose

meanwhile you could reinvest that for more movement speed or item rarity

[split palm]

Hi sans

[blazing spear]

or dps

[frigid wedge]

tainted pact is the most jank recovery in the game and feels like absolute dogshit unless u loop

hi shika

cast while channeling is also aight

[split palm]

don'T like fortress layout, was slow in it

[icy zinc]

dissolution overregen with chaos asc

[split palm]

I sentenced myself to harvest bench hell yesternight

xd

[icy zinc]

right

ic

[dark sequoia]

You can get permanent leech from tiny self damage if you use a flask craft + immortal ambition + coward's chains and a tiny ES pool.

[icy zinc]

i was doing some monkey to fracture blanket snow ystd

[split palm]

spent like 500k purple juice

doing clusters

[frigid wedge]

nice

[icy zinc]

monkey-money

[blazing spear]

my idea was to get pact to work by applying a ton of poison with my main skill

[split palm]

in fire reforges

[frigid wedge]

the issue it forcing constant leech

[split palm]

I also realized

[icy zinc]

cremator is nice, break corpse so that detonate boxes dont work

[split palm]

can't you get

synths

[frigid wedge]

the leech has always been the problem

[split palm]

from other cluster bases with frogs

[icy zinc]

uh

[split palm]

so you can have the most unhinged clusters

[split maple]

Don't all jewels have same synth pool

[icy zinc]

fracture doesnt let you synth

but other than that you can do 3 synth yeah

[dark sequoia]

If you deal or take any amount of damage with that combo and like, single digit ES, your leech will last the full 5 seconds.

[icy zinc]

very rare

[blazing spear]

yea, this is what determined me to run immortal ambition and get a tiny bit of life reserved

[split palm]

don't think it rolls minion life on all

[icy zinc]

some notables even with the god tier refraction fogging doesnt swap the node in front to node in the back

and its upsetting

i wont mention which ones but ive expected better

[frigid wedge]

its still annoying to deal with leech dura instant of just constantly hitting

[blazing spear]

My sketchiest idea was linking smoke mine to arrogance

[frigid wedge]

im literally gonna be pobbing tpact later

[dark sequoia]

Hmm could do storm secret but thats a lot of uniques

[tacit crow]

zoey

9.7

[blazing spear]

it's a mine with a mana reservation which importantly does not have a life tag. that can be changed into a life reservation with arrogance

[icy zinc]

tainted pact build lol?

i guess you can do 4 worms cause why not

on shrine belt

[frigid wedge]

cast while channeling forbidden rite

on cyclone

[dark sequoia]

Is there any way to take chaos as physical

[mental nymph]

Hi eri

[icy zinc]

ive seen people do elemental to phys

[frigid wedge]

hi

[icy zinc]

but then grab phys overwhelm in eater altars and fkn die

[dark sequoia]

No way to get jugg regen to work with forbidden rite yeah

[frigid wedge]

why tf are u tryna use jugg regen

for the thing that gives a fuck ton of regen

xD

[dark sequoia]

I've been wanting to do a forbidden rite indigon build with unlight silhouette but it just seems worse in every way than doing fross

[frigid wedge]

u poison urself with fr

[icy zinc]

iphone innovation right after getting frozen

[blazing spear]

also, any way to mitigate vaal temptation dot? With arakaali, lethe shade and as much reduced duration as possible, I could get it down to 388 damage per stack, applied over 0.72s

according to eri, life flask

[frigid wedge]

outregen it and pick up pdr

[icy zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9h1sogjL0Y

maybe some answers here

[frigid wedge]

life flask is one way

[icy zinc]

uses vaal temptation vaal bv

prints entire screen in vaal bvs

[blazing spear]

i will do vls spam

[frigid wedge]

thats doppelganger guise

[icy zinc]

i will doppel your guise

[dark sequoia]

wait if you self poison with rotmark runegraft does vaal temptation convert 10% to chaos which can be turned into healing with tainted pact?

[frigid wedge]

it has unhinge on the skill bar

[blazing spear]

And my build uses doryani

[frigid wedge]

probably, u get 50% of rf as recovery when u use divine flesh

[icy zinc]

enmity and doryani builds when invert the rules exist

smhhhh

wonder if next league some 200% cold pen build arrives

[dark sequoia]

shaper ball stick

has inherent 200% cold pen

[cobalt blade]

then u toss on 4 hunter for 60%

[blazing spear]

invert has ~66% pen

Doryani has 275

[mental nymph]

So chat I'm about to dive into harvest grind ,lmk if there is an even better strat

[blazing spear]

also, I have a sketchy idea: phys taken as chaos

or phys taken as cold

[dark sequoia]

If you use warden with maven scorch boots do you still only apply a single scorch from the boots

[icy zinc]

heck was it name again?

i saw it being used for battlemage

legacy of the rose

hmmm

[blazing spear]

idk how to fit in phys taken as cold or chaos

[dark sequoia]

I want to do a jank build that is vaal RF warden.
Oath of Summer
Unbound Avatar
Priest of Kopec
Idk Corruption's Embrace

[blazing spear]

My idea is bound by destiny

[vapid junco]

bruh

[tranquil sedge]

harvest is like 20-30+d/hr depending on how efficiently/smart u do it so like its fine no matter how dumb u are its gonna make money

thats why i love it

no brain = still works

[vapid junco]

harvest is 100% guaranteed drops

[opal ingot]

holy how legacy is this dying sun

[icy zinc]

very legacy

being able to use dying sun 3 times

blessed.

[tranquil sedge]

wonder how much that costs

[opal ingot]

oh wow only 50d on standard

bless

[tranquil sedge]

lol

[ancient sorrel]

very noob question since i never used AG: do i lose equipment if it dies?

[tranquil sedge]

no

[icy zinc]

used to be the case

[tranquil sedge]

it used to be the case, but not since some time now

[ancient sorrel]

ok thx

[icy zinc]

that sure drove up the cost of kingmaker

although losing kingmaker would be counter intuitive due to planned obsolence... but i digress

[split palm]

offer: 3 chaos

[dark sequoia]

All the builds I play just come back to RF/Fulcrum Chieftain. 😢

[tranquil sedge]

kingmaker being worth a few divs is nice

more valuable uniques there are, the better for the game

[icy zinc]

2 t0 uniques merged

😎

[opal ingot]

nooooo

[zealous flax]

Omg thats golden

[strong totem]

So many character renames lately. The system is on vacation

[dark sequoia]

Is there any skill that leaves a trail of DoT ground behind you?
Without something jank like a minion loop with siegebreaker

[zealous flax]

Jenubu is poe's c9

[spice pecan]

not necessarily a skill but I think abberath's hooves leaves burning ground

[zealous flax]

legendary

[tranquil sedge]

flame dash does that

[cobalt blade]

creeping frost kinda does?

has dot ground that moves

[proper shell]

why is templar astrolabe so expensive now

[wheat sinew]

xd

[wheat sinew]

new offering minions

the support gem

iirc they drop chilled ground

[split palm]

LMAO

[wheat sinew]

oh nvm

[spice pecan]

is this jung's char

[split palm]

probably a real death, and not just voiding an empty char

[strong totem]

I remember when burning ground was in campaign and maps and the burning ground covered half the areas

[dark sequoia]

I have a very stupid idea.
But I need to recombo travel skills crit onto some ritual boots.

Infernal Dagger + Squire + Travel Skills Crit + Lotta CDR

Flame Dash build

[zealous flax]

after not playing rsl for ages these deals are nuts XD

[wheat sinew]

how rare is wish for fishes? did like 2k maps no fishes

[zealous flax]

you can get that?

[pulsar ice]

first time hearing about it as well

[wheat sinew]

dis one

[zealous flax]

wow

yea

never seen that

[split palm]

never seen that one

maybe you need the hat?

[blazing spear]

no

It spawns naturally

[wheat sinew]

just extremely rare

have seen 4 of the unique jewel wish

[cobalt blade]

its just rare as fuck and spawns krilson iirc from the data weve seen of ppl whove gotten it

[fallow fern]

what would be the best ascendancy for life stacking with that axe

chieftan?

[tacit crow]

zap

[astral brook]

im trying ulti again

i see profit when running in bulk right? i tried small portions got nothing even lost money

[rose quail]

You see profit if you don't get baited by catalysing

[astral brook]

i do inscribed

[mystic gale]

does this amulet have potential for some build?

[icy zinc]

not so giga now huh

bla.

[rose quail]

That's also bait. You either do just bribing or bribing + dueling.