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stackable in the sense that 2 different support gems that boost the same thing stack together
Example: you have fireball
Support A gives 10% increased fire damage
Support B gives 10% increased spell damage
Fireball is both fire and spell damage, so it'll get 20% increased damage
so this is the easy answer
That is what I am asking...So supp gems dont stack ?
no they don't stack, at least not in that sense
oh that +2 is to get spectre to 25
ah balls
Note @round abyss that PoE makes a ver yclear distinction between:
- Additional
- Increased
- More
These all mean specific things and shouldnt be mixed up
ok so
That isnt what I would call stacking. That is just synenergy. Stacking is when you have 10 tri-point daggars in risk of rain 2 giving you 100% bleed chance since they add 10% each
if you put a lvl 4 enlighten and downgrade clarity by 1 level, u hit 139 unreserved mana lol
nice
this is some jank nonsense but uh the number does get met
it might not actually feel good to play tho if you dont have enough mana recovery to recover before u cast again
yeah so, for example if you have Lesser Multiple Projectiles Support and Greater Multiple Projectiles Support those do stack together cuz they count as 2 different support gems
Yeah but as you said, they are different gems. Stacking is multiple of same
im gonna see if i can fit in lifetap tranthus
I prefer shatterspleen 
and get rid of clarity
and your jewellery is misted too ofc no non channeling crafts to be added there
thank you for trying though i know this is balls
in that case, no, supports dont "stack" by the way you define it, to answer your earlier question 🙂
this is an interesting pob 😄
supports must all be unique for a specific skill gem

shatterspleen is fun on its own but I like playing MulT. Having 100% is hella good with amount of attacks nailgun vomits
surely nothing will stop me from dinging soon
oh
I am now aware 
inb4 porcupines in all my strongboxes
how about a couple passives on just taking mana
that would fix this indepenently too
tranthus cost scales with unreserved mana
it would literally make the mana degen worse
what if you also take the mastery for 10% reduced cost of skills
thats a thing?
does trarthus round off its cost?
no
I swear the further I go, the more completely priceless skillpoints feels like
Definitevly worth lot more than shitty buff bandits offer....I dont think anyone ever choose to help any of them
it goes into decimals
how do i see this degen
do i need to enable a config
Isnt one of them something extreamly shitty like 9% movment speed ?
i see that bf of trarthus is 4% degen/sec for mana
but pob is not reflecting that in the mana recovery stat
I use it with eb
I think it does if u have the skill in the active window
Hey guys! What is the most broken build I can make on 40div? That can easily kill pinnacles and get 4 voidstones
i tried that
movespeed and 15% resists can be good, I often taken movespeed if I am not playing a travel skill abuse build
why this flask daedric
idk
Mm ok i could have sworn it did
i havent used it in hours
late game in poe, movespeed becomes your only remaining multiplier for "divines per hour", once you one tap everything, the only way to make money faster is physically increasing your characters movespeed
I wonder...If I put spellslinger, to slot linked to predator, which is linked to minion, can I mark gangbang targets with wand ?
i only need it on reduced recovery maps
so it doesnt take a year to cast another set of aw
Whirling blades ftw
unfortunately the prey skill is neither a spell nor attack, it is just a "skill", which is rare but exists, so it cant be triggered
Goddamit
I played a bf of trarthus build at release i dont remember whether it was a pob setting or whether i was just custom config all league
The only thing holding back my speed right now is convocation tbh
OH wait no chalice
I move faster than my minions can follow
it helps with flask sustain
does flagellant not sustain you
i thought you were talking about divination distilate
I dont think I really care about divines per hour. Maybe I care more about fun and less about wealth
it does sustain me but yk
+2 spectre from elder influence is a mod on boots
i was gonna take bottled faith for more dablage
if you could acquire a pair of boots with that mod
wait what
that frees up helm for recraft
oh to like level
wouldnt it be better to take +2 to all minions on helmet at that point?
ok right that works too spectre gem is a minion gem
yes why are we complicating it
just recraft a helm with that mod LOL
crafting......
max
ok so % mre wont affect it
it will
ah wat
effectively speaking, its not very hard to "cap out" in poe, where you just one shot everything and are very hard to kill, or dont care about dying anymore
You hit that point pretty fast if you spend even a little bit of time learning and reading
And when you hit that point, you will find all thats left to min max is "how do I do the same thing Im doing but faster" in terms of juicing up and pushing the game farther
i dont follow
why is that related to unreserved mana
i just meant, will adding %mre essence/implicit mods to helmet, fix ur issue
^ coz then this is the answer
OH sorry i thought you misspelled more
you meant mana res efficiency
yes
it will because i will have more unreserved to cast with
kk gl with the helm craft
cool
if you dont recomb it, and idk why you would
just fracture the minion gem levels
then essence of loathing is the starting step
rest of the mods are whatever you want however you plan to get them from there
ok tbf there are some pretty cool eggstarch implicits
either eater or exarch i forget one of them has %mre implicit too
yeah
so you can get quite a lot between the 10% essence and the 7-12% implicit or w/e
kk gl im going off now
Isnt atlas basically rogulike thing ? Either way, I dont think "how to do same thing faster", I will think "Now I wanna try bow"
Just mindset thing I guess
tbf increasing movespeed also makes the game more fun in general
I play warframe. I am way too used to onetap everything. Variaty is key to fun
less walking
same
not really a roguelike no, its just semi randomly generated zones you clear, but you have a passive tree that lets you control and influence what content shows up in the zones to cater your experience so you can farm the stuff you enjoy the most
and then you can also add in further stuff to boost difficulty while also boosting drops, so the endgame is effectively "how insane can I make my maps to maximize loot while also not dying"
PoE dosent limits how many characters you have. Every character have 3 ascentions (besides scion I guess) and at least 4 different way to build. Theres so much varitay I can build !
theres literally a character limit
It does
I forgot the amount but I have hit it and then bought more
20? 30?
24
and you can buy up to 255 iirc thats when your force capped lol
think it was steve that did that
tbf its only 30 points
Huh for re-
Oh it is in tens...Thats good. That is fine. I am used to have like 4 RIGHT PSO2NGS ?!
Much like DoT, costs per second are costs per minute under the covers.
at least 4 different way to build
Thats sorta like saying theres at least 4 grains of sand on this beach XP
that makes decimals matter even more

Yeah..switch 3 masteries and two gems and you foundmentaly change entire build
i.e. there's no decimals, just a whole number of cost per minute.
well yk
My ssf flicker can’t do Ubers
the thing is, most of the real deep intricacies of a build cant really be explored til higher levels, usually 90+, you need enough passives to really explore the full depth of what a build can do, most players gun for max level 100 atm for a "build", or at least 96+
they do get applied
I sad
5% mana / second of BFoT is actually 300% mana / minute.
Just displayed scaled down to be per-second.
What are the minimum phys ele chaos max hits you guys suggest for Ubers
Yo dose anyone have an aurabot pob i can take a look at?
what if you have 1007 mana does it just round up to 51 mana spend 🤔
at least 1
Afaik 95 is the "standard" as that's where the exp curve gets steep
I’m not a trapper nor miner
then 2 maybe
i am i am!
This is 1st time I am fully dedicated to cross A10 so I aimed at modest 81. May expand it later, lets see how fast exping will go
I just want to do Ubers in ssf
Prob need a jugg
I die to every single little hits from bosses

Little hits not even the slams
Uber Dread bullet hell find rose phase I just die in one hit from the bullet
minionpact isnt chad
I still don’t have minion pact
No clue how it's actually computed and consumed over time.
The maps with white border, am i supposed to buy these or what. My maps dont drop these kinds of maps so i wonder whats wrong
hjet guys quick question
its a good build
fair nuff
easy to farm
im on bv with herald of ash and lots of converts to fire
run those ziggs
I’m doing syndicate rn
oh wait
holy shit wait i just realised. i can support tranthus with transfusion instead of lifetap. its like way cheaper that way. holy fuck. yeah no im ditching clarity entirely fuck that
Hopefully soon
will % incrased fire damage be dead mod or ?
zigg isn't minion pact
ziggurat also has cata
xdd
zigg is scornful herald
wow check out this new shadow pathing
how should I rip my hcssf character
my brain is cooked
bladefall goes from costing 34 mana and 46 life to a mere 61 life and thats it
I think both betrayal and zigg drop minion pact
I ran so many different nightmare maps
So giving enemies 50% chance to block was a mistake. wow.
I get melted by zigg cata even 
but bv minionpact chieftain is like the goat in ssf atm
its realy fun and good
Ye I’m sure minion pact will be nerfed to the ground next patch so I’m gonna play it this patch
Hopefully I can start killing Ubers before gauntlet
surely you could run zigg if you go dextral sinistral stability
Seems efficient and legit 
imagine farming cata in ssf jesus
betrayal weird
I just made it 100x better. I removed dark arts
you need something you farm for it
minion pact drop rate will be gutted too tho?
you could be farming other things
you cant cheat like in trade
would you rather have the smaller chance to get the gem itself or die and have a 0% chance to get it
1:10 i think
i farmed aroun 14
for 4:20
was quite fast
nah
@earnest raven pretty neat gauntlet build eh?
doenst matter
Boss drops are fixed?
the scarab is only if your gear is dog

ye
ok now this build is nuts
what the fuck
Who gave you this idea
Christ wilson
This is prob the worst pathing ever
it is a gift from god
avrg trade gamer pathing
dont see any problems
that divine shield better get insane value

cuz holy
wtf. pls tell me hes atleast running weird shit like pure talent
vegan
yes
Don’t judge me for not being able to do Ubers, I’m already top 2 reliquarian in ssf

ranger takes pure talent for that shweet sheet 7 movespeed
dont worry you play the right game mode. you have my full respect
I wonder what the next reliquarian ascendancy is gonna look like
bait
mageblood, hh and shrine belt
You have my full respect for playing the right game mode AND being better than most ppl in trade.
for sure


well thats not a hard
A hard what
i wonder how broken a 1 perma magic flask asc point would be
i cant tell if i want them to remove the victario because its BiS or leave it because it feels nice to get free res eff
or maybe even make it white flask only to nerf it
Pretty sure Zealoth Otah is not blocked by getting hit right
you had mageblood right
Good
Yes
and HH
wont they reroll all the mods?
you can actualy play a good setup for bv
well they never said ALL of them
im proud of you !
so who knows
its not even good
I was theorizing on this as a fun idea for PF
just one perma flask, I think it would be very strong but I dunno if it would be broken
Are you gonna use the volatile vaal on the coil?
nah

The ninja max hit is not correctly configured right?
kinda but
immortal call tech
is op
70%
uptime with a 5 endu charge immortal call
Insane
i think we're just getting started
yeah you can get more from tree
i only have 2 gears on
Am i supposed to buy 16.5 maps?, how do i drop these
voidstones
Okay
the more you have the more nightmares drop
surely
@short prairie tomorrow gauntlet race with ben
poverty
much to learn

private league?
Im running a safehouse like every map now, lol
tomorrow ye
gl!!
if i dont pick up quest contracts from smugglers caches, will they keep replacing real contracts/blueprints so i will get fewer real ones as a result?
they dont replace them, they are additional and can be ignored entirely
thank you!
this T3 chaos will annoy me until i redo everything
Domination scarab
eyo wait is this just maximum ward, not current ward?
current
I think so
I mean it's not too fantastic
ward is expensive rn
oh well
true
topend of like 25k ward maybe?
well, current would be maximum or 0, so that'd be awkward
haven't seen the multi mirror setups
I guess im competing with Celestial Mathematics people
well let me check how much good ward gear costs
Thats kinda what i figured
I can just wear not that lol
aura farming
he's him
This should be kinda tight with Nightgrip shouldnt it
Since then i get defences from ward besides the ward itself
it's ok i died 0 times in 6 maps with sinistral dextral
wait Ynda's isnt that much at all
also if anyone wants to hop on lol
uncorrupted
Why would i care if it's corrupted or not
thing is you want defense catalyst
getting 60% is 50d I think
10 catalysts to roll from

that's not the right number
10 catalysts, random between 1 and 20% quality is that, no?
why not
Or is it 10^19
wouldn't it just be 1/10 * 1/20
no minion pact
god forbid I have to hit squint 10 quintillion tainted catalysts to hit a 20%
apparentyl
lol
1 in 200
1600c
which is like what 4d?
So looking at approximately 20d
gamba 
wish i was actually playing league lol
this guy with a lush hideout lawn base has like 20 uncorrupted exceptionals in his shop for some reason
its called aura bruh
i think its a bot

AR/EV is the ideal for ynda's right
Thinking about doing campaign makes me want to blow my brains out, i think im gonna wait til next league lol
also dont have a build in mind
is there a way to search on trade for combined 100% avoid to being shocked? so implicit + explicit combined
I don't really have a suggestion
weighted sum
Use weighted sum min 100
my brain got done in trying to do ward shenanigans
but theyre gonna be a little overpriced i think?
secret tech is you can just get like 75% chance to avoid and then get 25% chance to avoid all ele ailments elsewhere 
like if its just a lesser implicit you can craft it yourself very easily
exceedingly easily
does it include avoid elemental damage?
if you make it count that too
^
man i wish there was a ward shield besides Svalinn
oh hey its only 15d thats surprisingly reasonable
this is by far the chillest mapping and making bank experience Ive had of any league lol
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sLslD7qOyeOj1O0H9LdUJfQtFEYMEn6Z/view?usp=sharing
lol ye i was like, hmm soon 3. i have shit to do tomorrow and im tired
but also fuck this uncharted game is fun
can anyone help me remember how to recomb
so i made food and popped a can of coke XD
i have a t1 prefix on item a and a t1 suffix on item b; both blue. how do i maximise the chances that an item gets both?
the gunplay in uncharted is nice but I'm not a fan of story based games
the fighting is the one thing i could do with less of/none of
Make sure to get at least 25% increased effect of sleep.
im really enjoying the story, puzzles and platforming
we're two pieces of the puzzle I suppose
it feels so weird to have my character kill a billion worms while I'm afk
i guess
though im generally with you on not being a fan of story games
but like uncharted 4 was such a fucking blast
and the last of us 1 is one of the best games i ever played
how does one enjoy the gunplay of a controller exclusive game
or did they port it
it just felt nice
idk how to explain it
plus they have grenade launcher
uncharted 4 + the spinoff
both ported to pc
i played it on steam
got both games for 11eur
how to reduce mana reserve of spellslinger, do i keep gem levels low?
there's MRE for spellslinger in wand mastery
yeah there's several spellslinger enabling things
remove any unnecessary supports
ohh
god I still can't believe transfusion is just better lifetap
Theres still a bunch of good reasons to use lifetap
ie if its main links and u want the damage, if ur playing something like CF and u want the higher multi, or most importantly if u want to support something that isnt a spell
XD
last 6 nightmare maps
ran 18 still no minion pact
i regret feeding my nightmare maps to mappers now
How tf is transfusion better if lifetap gives damage
Minion pact is the kind of farm that will eat ur whole nightmare map supply
773 reckons its about 5% drop rate from ziggurat, dont know if quant matters
well yeah its a 20% damage link in a lot of situations. however, minions can't get lifetapped
god damnit ggg lol
random flavor text on the chronicle has the exact text "Locus of Corruption"
which will match as a hit on search in items
when calculatin ngamahu molten burst damage, can i just set the skill count to average number of projectiles hit per attack? 9 from nimis and average 4,5 from initial impact
numbers seem to add up per single ball damage in calc page
we truly were on a path to get exiled
AG can apply curses if he has a corruption implicit saying "on hit"
Thanks 
Too bad ill stay with punishment on hit tempest shield
Yes I gave him enfeeble and temo chain
oh. two?
But I idk if they matter much
so he can apply 3 curses
finally
you can also make AG curse enemies if you equip it dual wielding a bepsi and a coke, it'll mix the two together on hit and inflict despair on enemies
I gave him king maker
But enfeeble and temp chain
Gz
do u think the minion pact drop makes up for the worse boss/h with zigg phases, and possibly better div/h than abom?
Ylfeban's Trickery should work too
Yes I was considering buying a ylfeban malédiction
When u cant buy minion pact it certainly does lulw
oh are u ssf lol
doesnt matter cuz im ssf
my main grip is ziggurats layout kind of sucks
its not the worst but not great either
I feel like abomination has the best layout
Does it curse a lot and often
minion pact is less than a div nvm it isnt worth at all
zigg and abom same deal, you just run on the outside until bossroom
abom stays on top
but even the cheapest frag on ziggg is like 120+ c
since I use chains of command and and ton of swords killing stuff not really but it gives my AG something else to contribute and its cheap
cheat code unlocked
the only other real upgrade would be the ES helm
Im doing a weird build shock nova elementalist with like 4 spectre and golems
No mana scaling
Its crowded
sounds cool hows it working out?
living lightning in the mix?
Ah they are here to buff me
LIVING LIGHTNING
Not dmg
I was tempted to try something with exploding ice golems
Idk what is this gem
I think for AG most ppl take this Mask of the Stitched Demon
Why ?
Im gonna show you m'y character one sec
I just run gruthkul's on him but if I did t17s maybe i would pick up that helm to just incase
literally the absolute best way to start off the temple on first map of it, super high odds of getting like a solid 3 copies of T3 locus, maybe even 4
I dont think most ppl click stitched demon but its a fine option if u want ur ag to not die to dots
there's gloves with curse limit
@charred rune your fans need a 3.28 guide
Its content dependent as are most ag slots
kingmaker is fake because it's only 3 meters
for late game survival in tougher maps as opposed to something else i mean its not mandatory just considered an upgrade
it's fun
my build is working out
lot of iteration
and upgrade and tinkering
ahh doryani's
I think I made 6+ characters this league last one i did was a flicker strike
don't forget that dory is only 6 meters too
dude how do u know the range of everything
same with binos now
with convocation
it's here quite often
and I care more about kingmaker for big rare/boss
it's fine, i have many defrensive layer
I can take a big of variance there, didn't have many issue with it
they need to stop cucking cool items by making their ranges unreliable
just have to always get in range
my friend wants me to ditch this and use a simplex but it's lame (it's meta) and brick my whole character
Bino radius is not unreliable lul
mamba would work
don't want to do this
idk i made a reliquaian thirst for blood flicker strike build
3m is small for AG its fucking gigantic for prolif
it works when the mobs survive longer than 1 second but them im off to the other side of map
OH right. sorry I just confused that with it being limited with gravebind
doryanis prototype build?
yeah I guess if you're applying big poisons at range it's ok
gravebinds are good on AG when you run chains of command and profane bloom
who's applying curses
i was hyped at start of league at the possibility of maybe getting 2 ags but never happened dont think its possible
skitterbots or on hit?
but the thought of it was nice
yeah I don't think AG has the framework in place for 2 ag
config is so impossible to make 😭
what are you even supposed to check or not
I would suffer thru that it would be worth it
I tried equipping AG with one handed weapons and shields and it was already super annoying
maybe if they added a support gem high level that upgrade you AG into a merc
it would keep deleting the wrong item
it would thematically fit for it to be a tarantus gem actually
my ag just runs an echoforge pure chaos build
but then it would be a must pick into every build so
because it literally came out in mercenary league
true but if they made some form of trade off like companionship
he takes half your loot
they would have to tinker and make sure wording is proper too so that it doesnt break chains of command or be clear that it does
tried to finish challenges and ask claude things that can be done together
i gave the gdocs
oh yeah forgot about those maybe i'll do those today
whats the best order of operations to get a 3p1s item via recomb?
tho im not sure it understand the game mechanics enough
is it just me or is bloodline scarab a meme 99% of the time
use them on gems inside maps is bad advice and is really irrelevant. it gives advice as if you're ssf
I swear every picture u post is custom designed in a lab to troll me as hard as possible
constitution do be really nice
i think thats bcs i strictly tells it only things that can be done inside the map
well can just ignore the stupid advices
imagine if there was a passage jewel that let you extend your tree into one of the 6 notables inside the inner ring. the closest one to your normal char starting location
like maraudman gets constitution and templar gets shaper
probably won't ever add anything like that because normal passage rules is you can't extend your tree after passaging
I still would love to see a unique large cluster jewel pair that lets you "jump" from one socket to another, have to socket one in each spot, but it works like the gate keystones on the atlas tree
well yeah I saw that one too
each adds a keystone, you have to spend the point for the keystone too, so itd be the 3 travel points + 1 for keystone, so 8 points total to make the "jump"
same issue
what issue?
you can't keep growing your tree after using a passage
is there any strat to use apparition shrines?
what do you mean
trying to get a influenced shield/helmet for RF
like on the atlas tree you can but on the normal one you can't. otherwise you'd be able to chain them together to get even more jewel slots
basically passage jewels designate what you can get and you can't extend off that
thats explicitly logic built into how the current jewels work, Im sure if ggg wanted to they could implement the jewel I mentioned above, they'd just have to add logic for it
anyways I think my idea is cooler
"cant" is doing a lot of work there, GGG can do whatever they want
how often do you even need stuff from the other side of the tree anyways
especially since ggg has already solved this algorithm on the atlas tree, they'd just have to re-use it
What farming strat have you guys been liking? I've been running containment boxes for a while but my speed is limited constantly by waiting for the box to open so looking for something else
betrayal + incursion
jesus christ
the "what's a mirage?" strat huh
thats a lotta tinks
I like simulacrums
hey we still stop for ridan's and coins!
wtf is that skill bar
is that tumult or something
you should really get a tincture they're great
you know what you are right I can improve it, there, much better
nah, Im a spell build
incomprehensible
why isn't your lightning warp in there then
what do you mean?
where is your warp damage coming from
what like those purple gloves
with the flat
how do i progress this??
Im not killing stuff with lightning warp
I know I can probably find your pob but this is funnier
oh
Im on like 5 more levels of irony above lightning warp lol
how do i make a item influenced?
Everything is so expensive
Switching to life build and now I need to recraft everything
toernaedo tweester
kagenashi you gotta see my vid above on how chill this experience has become haha
If it's a regular item you can use an influenced exalted orb. It will add an influenced modifier and the influence of the type the exalted orb
triple timeclasp is all I need to know
and what does that tell you
tincture doesnt do anything for me afaik
that the build is beyond mortal comprehension
what is there no just normal phys tincture?
no
how
tinctures are for attacks, Twister is a spell
OH wait no
doesn't fit the theme of tinctures
yee
Watched it. That's my type of play. I switched to Life stack too early tho so loosing block hurts a bit. I'm gonna try make something like that later with Incinerate and Herald of the Hive
what vid?
so the items might be expensive
google drive link
oh ye found it
Yeah, I also saw that the tattoos are expensive AF. Which is whatever. Incinerate was almost viable in the past, the only thing was it had questionable clear and you had to sacrifice damage to get explosions in. Hive solves everything
3 passives for 16% life is bad efficiency right?
unless you don't have much else to spend them on
Depends where you at and the build
the kinda experience we be chasing
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If I can't play gacha on second monitor with my build it's not viable 
damn I have to press a button every 4 seconds
I was doing my dailies the other day while farming Tul/Esh. They just take so long for phases
what does... this emoji even mean, what is it 🫰
mfing popup ads in discord now??
Yeah. I clicked once tho on didnt ask and it never showed up so far for me
it's a heart
but hipster
Entirely personal. RF and Incinerate best builds fr fr
.-.
lol jk
mjolner cyclone archmage
Zana is like "Atlas cannot be studied". Well, good thing I am here for looting and not studying
idk enough to reccomend anything, especially with how diffwerent peopels idea of fun are
TRUE
thor weapon what?
now that sounds fun, though would it be that different from bv?
yes
it's a mana stacker
but playstyle wise, is cyclone very different from bv?
yes
i heard the playstyles were similar
https://www.twitch.tv/onemanaleft
https://pobb.in/2IlgEgPLfNXo - day 1 gear ~2D
https://pobb.in/dVK_LtEOIK3i - day 3 gear ~20D
https://pobb.in/7dXamrP_6CiI - day 7 gear ~200D
mageblood PoB just go triple ele flask + jade and drop purity of elements for dmg aura
0:00 intro
0:37 nerf comparison
1:35 55c demo
3:40 tier 16 map
6:10 day 3 3.27 to...
jeez too big requirement
well thats why you build around it
eeeeeh... yeah no it is.
movement in cyclone is quite different
fair
tbh maybe ill try that, i have been wanting to play a mana stacker and a hiero/templar
you also hold down a button as opposed to needing to press one frequently while also walking
and ive always wanted to go archmage lol
yeah mjolner is the best archmage user basically
there are exceedingly few sources of manacheating in this game
Ain't no way Mjoiner is BACK baby LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
back?
mjolner works exceptionally well with indigon also
actually it's stronger since 3.27 due to foulborn
ooh interesting
What's the foulborn line ?
increased aoe
honestly getting my hyped to do a second build xD
instead of chain
Mjoinor and not going arc smh smh smh
ima have to grind out the mageblood and stuff though, i wanna do a big invested build for once
isn't MB cheap af rn
140d
128d
well there's several options. you can either trade the plus chain for aoe or you can get a built in lighting spell which is basically +1 support link at the cost of using a spell with worse added damage effectiveness
I never seen anyone use the latter
though a literal lighting bolt from the sky is pretty cool
yeah its not bad at all, though i dont have the divs lying around 😅
wont be a long grind
though i might also jsut wait and try this out next league, since that video is running it league starter
i've been considering switching to MB from screams but i think i might be too lazy
ive been loiving screams
it can be league starter but there's a pretty decent and efficient ceiling to push
because you're like triple dipping on all your invests
nice
as is my over-invested bv ele is definitely sufficient for this league
maybe not 40/40 without any more upgrades but also maybe lol
i havent tried any ubers yet 😅
i don't like the armour set enough to even 36/40 :I
its better than nothing for me 😅
a tiny tiny bit better than the phrecia league autumn knight armor
I’m still trying to get the hierophant holy flame totem build to work
Did they nerf totems too much
someday i do wanna run a pure holy build
I keep telling myself i'll get to challenges but i have a suspicion..
but i will probs get the bv chief to 100 at least
i got my first 100 this league as well so thats a push towards going all 40/40 my first time
GGG has been defeated
Lots of exp this league
though the astrolabe challenge is such a DRAAAAGGGG
Mirage is prob my favorite league mechanic
there is a pretty wild amount of power creep this league
cant wait til its gone 😭
No way mirage stays core
reduced to rarer than wildwoods
or gone entirely
RIP screams
gonna be mirror for the shittest SoD
astrolabes feel a bit whatever. i guess it's nice additional map juice for some but the rewards are mostly so underwhelming
yeah im only doing em cus of the challenge
though ive gotten a few nice drops in doing so lol
I like them because of the targeted vaults
3 div, cooldown recovery
best i've had is a valdos or a raw single div i think
I think astrolabes could either be more rewarding still
or just be more common
i think when I was boss rush and barya farming I got like
5-6 astrolabes
yeah the cheapest astrolabes were still 77c
definitely spending more than those 3 divs ive dropped jsut to do the one challenge
the altar part is especially gonna suck
i have probably over 2m kills this league and i still havent completed some of the grindier challenges
Ironically I haven't been doing the challenges but I have most of grindier dones because that's just how I play
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ive gotten so dang many baryas 😅 but i also didnt touch eagons quests til i hit 100 so never seen an astrolabe drop lol
granted i havent actually deliberately tried to do any challenges
I'm at 17/40 from just playing
i'm at maybe 20/40 or something
i am sure i have at least 5 or 6 super easy to complete ones not touched
Merchant are like 5
30/40 after a little intentional challenge running
well see if i even get 36 if once humans new pass is any good tomorrow or so 😅
I'm waiting for Barotrauma DLC but that's still a while away
But if I keep playing I'm going for mirror to mirror a helm not challenges 
I started from 3 immortals
prime chaotic resonator 1.4div
technically if you can only attack once every 10 minutes then your dps is only 1 mil
jesus how much is that worth now?
are the cards, scripture, or ring worth more?
5,700-ish divines
why would the ring be worth less than the only way to get the ring after a hard challenge
Scripture is only 3k
Keep going, get 32.
daaaaang
no
never gamble
@surreal mulch
first time seeing this
That's right
Hell nah lmfai
Gamba
You will lose everything if you don't stop now
Cowardice.
I know bro
I hit a stack of 8 damnations
somethign very very weird i just found, see these 2 nodes waaaaaay off the screen to the side of the map with no way to access it? top right, i am inside a mirage
that's literally not even gamba
I have bigger balls than this entire discord.
gimme 500 across 10 leagues any day xD
there's like one guy on the planet actually doing sanctum rn
sanctums own steven xD
XDDDDD
Then why is the 16 cards worth more than turning in the scripture
it's a bubble
mirage can spawn unreachable content unfortunately
Gamblers
What could I level w on bv chief tain? Sunder ?
Why is it a bubble
level as rf probably

RF
surely
eventually people will stop buying the fukin cards for no reason
Thank you
and the price will make sense again
14 is still nothing without the last 2
both hit 9% wtf
Exactly. It looks more stupid than homs and apothrcaries being worth more than mirrors and mageblood, but gambling and the potential of getting more makes it worth more than the actual thing bcuz of demand
Exactly
well yeah as I said,bubble. it's all speculative and eventually the wave will die down and they will all devalue
Why is it a bubble
Cus of Damnation farmers + osin prices dying
it's not like a COMPLETE one but partially
people hyped up this one big expensive card to farm
because there's only so many builds that actually use osin
ykw mfs
also yeah
And also because it's not like you actually need an osin build to farm breach
Doesnt osin help whispers of infinity setups tho
And msoz
events you will have no more buyers that actually want to buy damnations and scriptures
bv also use osin
you don't need it when all your damage comes from flat chaos already
xdd
there's a lot of shit u can do with osin
Purple lifeforce is 3 times less valuable than yellow gambling really is the life blood of the game
it is an illness we are easily susceptible to
?
it gets you more single target if you're actually in the nearby
its 2k per click
isn't it 200 per card
it's flat cost per click
1,500
gambling is the best way to clean your stash
gambling both for cards and synths are far and away the biggest users of yellow
1500 yeah same shit only dif
you don't clean your stash
you keep it and sell it for mirrors when they eventually discontinue an item you have for no reason
async trade made standard trade actually viable
bleh
3rd in sub 20 maps
i swear theres like 0 difference to running 200c investment breach and 2div+ investment
run strongboxes imo
in the series of maps there is
you're just juicing your jackpot chance a lot of the time
Breach is fine. I'm doing low invest tho.
Every chest you don't open, every boulder you don't flip has a mirror underneath
im running low invest breach too, i spend around 150c per map and i get around 2-3div
3-5 when running with friend
juice breach also gives way more blood so
I gave away 500d in g420
150c per map is like ultra high invest for me 
The fact that I can do that and have it be less than 10% of my total worth rn is fucking absurd
Is this what being skilled feels like
do unidentified shirne belts sell fast?
better lucky than good
I havent made 500d this whole league and its the furthest ive ever gotten in one xD
Im buying hundreds of them tomorrow
Save it until then
oh yeah, usually
Yes
I guarantee you the price will skyrocket
is it profitable to just run barya maps and sell unidentified?
... is that insider trading?
Not really
planning to do this but not sure if profitable
Not statistically
surely
i liquidated my stuff last night cos im done with league, and then tripled my money, but have no juice/nor divines left to buy juice.
Good night, brothers
Yep I liquidated
Started with 500, then 100, then 0 and 3 immortals
And now I can play any build I want
9% again and a poof
its a gamble, but the unid'd belts are over 50% or so drop and baryas are usually half or under the belts
Last I checked, baryas were just over half the price
If not a bit more
id say best money from baryas is just doing mroe maps and always lookin for ridan/ridan wish and selling the baryas, no gamba

