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tranquil sedge
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ur almost 40% overcap cold res
solution is simple just recraft helm with essence mana reservation and also implicit

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losing that +2 implicit looks like does approximately fuckall for your fulldps

full kraken
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stackable in the sense that 2 different support gems that boost the same thing stack together

Example: you have fireball
Support A gives 10% increased fire damage
Support B gives 10% increased spell damage

Fireball is both fire and spell damage, so it'll get 20% increased damage

tranquil sedge
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so this is the easy answer

round abyss
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That is what I am asking...So supp gems dont stack ?

sleek barn
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no they don't stack, at least not in that sense

surreal mulch
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oh that +2 is to get spectre to 25

tranquil sedge
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ah balls

surreal mulch
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yeah

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but sure ill get another helmet

full kraken
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Note @round abyss that PoE makes a ver yclear distinction between:

  • Additional
  • Increased
  • More

These all mean specific things and shouldnt be mixed up

tranquil sedge
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thats a very nice helmet in that case lmao

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😂

surreal mulch
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it is i love it

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but its technically not necessary

tranquil sedge
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ok so

round abyss
tranquil sedge
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if you put a lvl 4 enlighten and downgrade clarity by 1 level, u hit 139 unreserved mana lol

surreal mulch
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nice

tranquil sedge
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this is some jank nonsense but uh the number does get met

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it might not actually feel good to play tho if you dont have enough mana recovery to recover before u cast again

full kraken
round abyss
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Yeah but as you said, they are different gems. Stacking is multiple of same

surreal mulch
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im gonna see if i can fit in lifetap tranthus

surreal mulch
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and get rid of clarity

tranquil sedge
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and your jewellery is misted too ofc no non channeling crafts to be added there

surreal mulch
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thank you for trying though i know this is balls

full kraken
tranquil sedge
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this is an interesting pob 😄

full kraken
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supports must all be unique for a specific skill gem

elfin spire
round abyss
halcyon flicker
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surely nothing will stop me from dinging soon

tranquil sedge
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oh

halcyon flicker
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inb4 porcupines in all my strongboxes

tranquil sedge
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how about a couple passives on just taking mana

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that would fix this indepenently too

surreal mulch
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tranthus cost scales with unreserved mana

tranquil sedge
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with these 2 nodes ur at 174 unreserved

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oh

surreal mulch
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it would literally make the mana degen worse

tranquil sedge
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what if you also take the mastery for 10% reduced cost of skills

surreal mulch
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thats a thing?

tranquil sedge
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also

surreal mulch
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oh it is

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nice

tranquil sedge
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does trarthus round off its cost?

surreal mulch
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no

round abyss
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I swear the further I go, the more completely priceless skillpoints feels like

Definitevly worth lot more than shitty buff bandits offer....I dont think anyone ever choose to help any of them

surreal mulch
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it goes into decimals

tranquil sedge
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do i need to enable a config

round abyss
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Isnt one of them something extreamly shitty like 9% movment speed ?

tranquil sedge
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i see that bf of trarthus is 4% degen/sec for mana

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but pob is not reflecting that in the mana recovery stat

halcyon flicker
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I use it with eb

onyx adder
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I think it does if u have the skill in the active window

wintry storm
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Hey guys! What is the most broken build I can make on 40div? That can easily kill pinnacles and get 4 voidstones

tranquil sedge
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i tried that

full kraken
tranquil sedge
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why this flask daedric

surreal mulch
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idk

onyx adder
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Mm ok i could have sworn it did

surreal mulch
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i havent used it in hours

full kraken
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late game in poe, movespeed becomes your only remaining multiplier for "divines per hour", once you one tap everything, the only way to make money faster is physically increasing your characters movespeed

round abyss
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I wonder...If I put spellslinger, to slot linked to predator, which is linked to minion, can I mark gangbang targets with wand ?

surreal mulch
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i only need it on reduced recovery maps

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so it doesnt take a year to cast another set of aw

full kraken
round abyss
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Goddamit

onyx adder
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I played a bf of trarthus build at release i dont remember whether it was a pob setting or whether i was just custom config all league

halcyon flicker
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The only thing holding back my speed right now is convocation tbh

surreal mulch
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OH wait no chalice

halcyon flicker
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I move faster than my minions can follow

surreal mulch
tranquil sedge
surreal mulch
round abyss
tranquil sedge
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also it occurs to me

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your boots are generic asf

surreal mulch
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it does sustain me but yk

tranquil sedge
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+2 spectre from elder influence is a mod on boots

surreal mulch
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i was gonna take bottled faith for more dablage

tranquil sedge
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if you could acquire a pair of boots with that mod

surreal mulch
tranquil sedge
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that frees up helm for recraft

surreal mulch
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oh to like level

tranquil sedge
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yes

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+2 spectre gem lvl

surreal mulch
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wouldnt it be better to take +2 to all minions on helmet at that point?

tranquil sedge
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ok right that works too spectre gem is a minion gem

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yes why are we complicating it

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just recraft a helm with that mod LOL

surreal mulch
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crafting......

tranquil sedge
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idk how ur trarthus degen works at all

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% based on max or unreserved?

surreal mulch
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max

tranquil sedge
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ok so % mre wont affect it

surreal mulch
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it will

tranquil sedge
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ah wat

full kraken
# round abyss I dont think I really care about divines per hour. Maybe I care more about fun a...

effectively speaking, its not very hard to "cap out" in poe, where you just one shot everything and are very hard to kill, or dont care about dying anymore

You hit that point pretty fast if you spend even a little bit of time learning and reading

And when you hit that point, you will find all thats left to min max is "how do I do the same thing Im doing but faster" in terms of juicing up and pushing the game farther

surreal mulch
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base cost of max but then multiplied by supports

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annoying af i know

tranquil sedge
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i dont follow

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why is that related to unreserved mana

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i just meant, will adding %mre essence/implicit mods to helmet, fix ur issue

tranquil sedge
surreal mulch
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you meant mana res efficiency

tranquil sedge
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yes

surreal mulch
tranquil sedge
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kk gl with the helm craft

surreal mulch
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cool

tranquil sedge
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if you dont recomb it, and idk why you would

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just fracture the minion gem levels

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then essence of loathing is the starting step

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rest of the mods are whatever you want however you plan to get them from there

surreal mulch
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ok tbf there are some pretty cool eggstarch implicits

tranquil sedge
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either eater or exarch i forget one of them has %mre implicit too

surreal mulch
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yeah

tranquil sedge
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so you can get quite a lot between the 10% essence and the 7-12% implicit or w/e

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kk gl im going off now

round abyss
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Just mindset thing I guess

surreal mulch
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tbf increasing movespeed also makes the game more fun in general

round abyss
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I play warframe. I am way too used to onetap everything. Variaty is key to fun

surreal mulch
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less walking

full kraken
# round abyss Isnt atlas basically rogulike thing ? Either way, I dont think "how to do same t...

not really a roguelike no, its just semi randomly generated zones you clear, but you have a passive tree that lets you control and influence what content shows up in the zones to cater your experience so you can farm the stuff you enjoy the most

and then you can also add in further stuff to boost difficulty while also boosting drops, so the endgame is effectively "how insane can I make my maps to maximize loot while also not dying"

round abyss
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PoE dosent limits how many characters you have. Every character have 3 ascentions (besides scion I guess) and at least 4 different way to build. Theres so much varitay I can build !

surreal mulch
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theres literally a character limit

rose quail
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20? 30?

cobalt blade
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24

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and you can buy up to 255 iirc thats when your force capped lol

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think it was steve that did that

surreal mulch
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tbf its only 30 points

round abyss
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Huh for re-
Oh it is in tens...Thats good. That is fine. I am used to have like 4 RIGHT PSO2NGS ?!

lucid gale
full kraken
surreal mulch
short prairie
round abyss
lucid gale
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i.e. there's no decimals, just a whole number of cost per minute.

surreal mulch
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well yk

short prairie
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My ssf flicker can’t do Ubers

full kraken
surreal mulch
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they do get applied

short prairie
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I sad

lucid gale
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5% mana / second of BFoT is actually 300% mana / minute.

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Just displayed scaled down to be per-second.

short prairie
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What are the minimum phys ele chaos max hits you guys suggest for Ubers

unkempt ferry
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Yo dose anyone have an aurabot pob i can take a look at?

cobalt blade
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what if you have 1007 mana does it just round up to 51 mana spend 🤔

rose quail
short prairie
tranquil umbra
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then 2 maybe

round abyss
short prairie
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I just want to do Ubers in ssf

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Prob need a jugg

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I die to every single little hits from bosses

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Little hits not even the slams

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Uber Dread bullet hell find rose phase I just die in one hit from the bullet

native token
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trust

surreal mulch
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minionpact isnt chad

short prairie
lucid gale
compact bronze
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The maps with white border, am i supposed to buy these or what. My maps dont drop these kinds of maps so i wonder whats wrong

foggy girder
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hjet guys quick question

native token
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its a good build

native token
foggy girder
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im on bv with herald of ash and lots of converts to fire

nocturne maple
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run those ziggs

short prairie
nocturne maple
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oh wait

surreal mulch
short prairie
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Hopefully soon

foggy girder
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will % incrased fire damage be dead mod or ?

nocturne maple
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zigg isn't minion pact

native token
nocturne maple
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xdd

native token
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you cant get it there

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it is

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zigg is minion pact

nocturne maple
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zigg is scornful herald

strong totem
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wow check out this new shadow pathing

native token
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no

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its minion pact

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herald is sanctuary

drowsy eagle
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how should I rip my hcssf character

nocturne maple
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my brain is cooked

surreal mulch
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bladefall goes from costing 34 mana and 46 life to a mere 61 life and thats it

short prairie
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I think both betrayal and zigg drop minion pact

blissful zodiac
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who is herald and why are taking him to the sanctuary

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@native token

nocturne maple
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I ran so many different nightmare maps

errant hatch
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So giving enemies 50% chance to block was a mistake. wow.

short prairie
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I get melted by zigg cata even kek

native token
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its realy fun and good

short prairie
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Hopefully I can start killing Ubers before gauntlet

nocturne maple
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surely you could run zigg if you go dextral sinistral stability

earnest raven
surreal mulch
native token
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why not

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how you supposed to get your veiled ex

surreal mulch
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betrayal weird

twin arch
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why is The Slaver King contract a tink

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what the fuck

strong totem
native token
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you need something you farm for it

short prairie
surreal mulch
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you could be farming other things

native token
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you cant cheat like in trade

twin arch
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are we deadass

native token
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and buy your progress

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without effort

nocturne maple
native token
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i farmed aroun 14

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for 4:20

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was quite fast

short prairie
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With prefix suffix annulled?

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On map?

native token
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nah

strong totem
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@earnest raven pretty neat gauntlet build eh?

native token
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doenst matter

short prairie
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Boss drops are fixed?

native token
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the scarab is only if your gear is dog

short prairie
native token
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ye

short prairie
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Alr

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I prob still can’t tank cata chaos field but oh well

strong totem
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ok now this build is nuts

tranquil umbra
short prairie
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Who gave you this idea

strong totem
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Christ wilson

short prairie
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This is prob the worst pathing ever

strong totem
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it is a gift from god

native token
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dont see any problems

nocturne maple
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that divine shield better get insane value

lucid gale
nocturne maple
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cuz holy

surreal mulch
surreal mulch
strong totem
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It's some secret tech

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but now that you mention pure talent..

native token
short prairie
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Don’t judge me for not being able to do Ubers, I’m already top 2 reliquarian in ssf

surreal mulch
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ranger takes pure talent for that shweet sheet 7 movespeed

native token
short prairie
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I wonder what the next reliquarian ascendancy is gonna look like

surreal mulch
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bait

stoic horizon
short prairie
stoic horizon
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for sure

short prairie
stoic horizon
short prairie
stoic horizon
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i wonder how broken a 1 perma magic flask asc point would be

surreal mulch
stoic horizon
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or maybe even make it white flask only to nerf it

round abyss
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Pretty sure Zealoth Otah is not blocked by getting hit right

surreal mulch
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no

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its regen

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you can regen es

native token
round abyss
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Good

short prairie
stoic horizon
native token
surreal mulch
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well they never said ALL of them

native token
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im proud of you !

surreal mulch
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so who knows

native token
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its not even good

short prairie
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Wait

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That’s for life stacker, nvm

native token
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what im using for non mf content atm

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quite nice

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2.0 ignite prolif

short prairie
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Foulborn coil

full kraken
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just one perma flask, I think it would be very strong but I dunno if it would be broken

native token
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foulborn coil is legit

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op

short prairie
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Are you gonna use the volatile vaal on the coil?

native token
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nah

short prairie
native token
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double corrupt

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maybe

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forcrit reduction

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maybe

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but idk

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im immortal

short prairie
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The ninja max hit is not correctly configured right?

native token
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kinda but

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immortal call tech

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is op

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70%

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uptime with a 5 endu charge immortal call

short prairie
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Insane

strong totem
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i think we're just getting started

surreal mulch
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yeah you can get more from tree

strong totem
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i only have 2 gears on

compact bronze
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Am i supposed to buy 16.5 maps?, how do i drop these

surreal mulch
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voidstones

compact bronze
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Okay

surreal mulch
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the more you have the more nightmares drop

short prairie
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lmao sinistral dextral stability

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for sure im gonna kill cata right>

sleek barn
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surely

native token
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@short prairie tomorrow gauntlet race with ben

surreal mulch
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poverty

native token
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much to learn

short prairie
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private league?

full kraken
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Im running a safehouse like every map now, lol

native token
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tomorrow ye

short prairie
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gl!!

glossy reef
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if i dont pick up quest contracts from smugglers caches, will they keep replacing real contracts/blueprints so i will get fewer real ones as a result?

full kraken
elfin spire
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this T3 chaos will annoy me until i redo everythingScuffHoldingTears

grave kelp
elfin shale
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eyo wait is this just maximum ward, not current ward?

surreal mulch
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current

sleek barn
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I think so

elfin shale
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Wiki says maximum but its a new enough keystone im not confident in it

sleek barn
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I mean it's not too fantastic

surreal mulch
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oh

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weird the wording suggests current

sleek barn
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ward is expensive rn

surreal mulch
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oh well

elfin shale
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true

sleek barn
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topend of like 25k ward maybe?

nocturne maple
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well, current would be maximum or 0, so that'd be awkward

sleek barn
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haven't seen the multi mirror setups

elfin shale
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I guess im competing with Celestial Mathematics people

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well let me check how much good ward gear costs

sleek barn
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surprisingly low

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mostly ydnas that's expensive

elfin shale
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Thats kinda what i figured

nocturne maple
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and a little bit expensive for armour I would think

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body armour*

sleek barn
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olroths charge is chase

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but not necessary

elfin shale
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I can just wear not that lol

sleek barn
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I haven't checked boot prices actually

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I do need one

twin arch
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Black Knight is such a buggy fight

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why is he just AFKING

sleek barn
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aura farming

nocturne maple
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he's him

elfin shale
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This should be kinda tight with Nightgrip shouldnt it

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Since then i get defences from ward besides the ward itself

twin arch
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no svallin

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smh

short prairie
sleek barn
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night grip has sadge ward though

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but yes that's a cool thing to do

elfin shale
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wait Ynda's isnt that much at all

sleek barn
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depends on roll

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should be 50d

elfin shale
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also if anyone wants to hop on lol

sleek barn
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uncorrupted

elfin shale
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Why would i care if it's corrupted or not

sleek barn
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thing is you want defense catalyst

elfin shale
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besides gambling

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I guess, how much are tainteds

sleek barn
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dunno

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but it's a cool item to defense catalyst and then volatile Vaal orb

elfin shale
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so

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8c per catalyst

sleek barn
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getting 60% is 50d I think

elfin shale
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10 catalysts to roll from

sleek barn
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I haven't considered tainteds lol

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could be worth a shot

elfin shale
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i guess i didnt have to input that into a calculator lol

sleek barn
nocturne maple
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that's not the right number

elfin shale
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10 catalysts, random between 1 and 20% quality is that, no?

surreal mulch
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why not

elfin shale
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Or is it 10^19

nocturne maple
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wouldn't it just be 1/10 * 1/20

elfin shale
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uhhhh

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yeah wait why am i powering

short prairie
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no minion pact

sleek barn
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bone circlet

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abyss

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wraithlord

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that's a tink?

tacit crow
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-100d

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nice!

nocturne maple
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god forbid I have to hit squint 10 quintillion tainted catalysts to hit a 20%

short prairie
elfin shale
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1 in 200

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1600c

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which is like what 4d?

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So looking at approximately 20d

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gamba Pogott

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wish i was actually playing league lol

surreal mulch
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this guy with a lush hideout lawn base has like 20 uncorrupted exceptionals in his shop for some reason

elfin shale
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its called aura bruh

surreal mulch
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i think its a bot

sleek barn
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hop on munin

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time to play league

sage falcon
elfin shale
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AR/EV is the ideal for ynda's right

elfin shale
# sleek barn hop on munin

Thinking about doing campaign makes me want to blow my brains out, i think im gonna wait til next league lol

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also dont have a build in mind

compact ether
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is there a way to search on trade for combined 100% avoid to being shocked? so implicit + explicit combined

sleek barn
sleek barn
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my brain got done in trying to do ward shenanigans

surreal mulch
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but theyre gonna be a little overpriced i think?

elfin shale
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secret tech is you can just get like 75% chance to avoid and then get 25% chance to avoid all ele ailments elsewhere kek

surreal mulch
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like if its just a lesser implicit you can craft it yourself very easily

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exceedingly easily

compact ether
surreal mulch
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if you make it count that too

elfin shale
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^

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man i wish there was a ward shield besides Svalinn

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oh hey its only 15d thats surprisingly reasonable

full kraken
tacit crow
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schizo crafting at 3am with work at 9

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:3

leaden gust
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lol ye i was like, hmm soon 3. i have shit to do tomorrow and im tired

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but also fuck this uncharted game is fun

dark kite
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can anyone help me remember how to recomb

leaden gust
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so i made food and popped a can of coke XD

dark kite
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i have a t1 prefix on item a and a t1 suffix on item b; both blue. how do i maximise the chances that an item gets both?

sleek barn
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the gunplay in uncharted is nice but I'm not a fan of story based games

leaden gust
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the fighting is the one thing i could do with less of/none of

lucid gale
leaden gust
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im really enjoying the story, puzzles and platforming

sleek barn
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we're two pieces of the puzzle I suppose

surreal mulch
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it feels so weird to have my character kill a billion worms while I'm afk

leaden gust
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i guess

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though im generally with you on not being a fan of story games

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but like uncharted 4 was such a fucking blast

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and the last of us 1 is one of the best games i ever played

sleek barn
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uncharted 4 was the only one I played

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I do agree it was a blast

surreal mulch
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or did they port it

sleek barn
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idk how to explain it

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plus they have grenade launcher

leaden gust
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uncharted 4 + the spinoff

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both ported to pc

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i played it on steam

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got both games for 11eur

compact bronze
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how to reduce mana reserve of spellslinger, do i keep gem levels low?

sleek barn
surreal mulch
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yeah there's several spellslinger enabling things

sleek barn
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remove any unnecessary supports

compact bronze
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ohh

surreal mulch
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god I still can't believe transfusion is just better lifetap

onyx adder
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Theres still a bunch of good reasons to use lifetap

onyx adder
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ie if its main links and u want the damage, if ur playing something like CF and u want the higher multi, or most importantly if u want to support something that isnt a spell

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XD

short prairie
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last 6 nightmare maps

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ran 18 still no minion pact

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i regret feeding my nightmare maps to mappers now

hard cliff
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How tf is transfusion better if lifetap gives damage

onyx adder
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Minion pact is the kind of farm that will eat ur whole nightmare map supply

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773 reckons its about 5% drop rate from ziggurat, dont know if quant matters

surreal mulch
full kraken
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god damnit ggg lol

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random flavor text on the chronicle has the exact text "Locus of Corruption"

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which will match as a hit on search in items

warped sonnet
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when calculatin ngamahu molten burst damage, can i just set the skill count to average number of projectiles hit per attack? 9 from nimis and average 4,5 from initial impact

plush gulch
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Can you apply curse with your spectre with hextouch?

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Or golem

warped sonnet
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numbers seem to add up per single ball damage in calc page

surreal mulch
surreal mulch
plush gulch
drowsy eagle
plush gulch
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Too bad ill stay with punishment on hit tempest shield

surreal mulch
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also you can expand AG curse limit

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so he doesn't take up your curses

plush gulch
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Yes I gave him enfeeble and temo chain

surreal mulch
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oh. two?

plush gulch
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But I idk if they matter much

surreal mulch
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how much did it cost

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maybe I should give mine the screaming shoes

plush gulch
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Forgot it was weeks ago

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Sorry

surreal mulch
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so he can apply 3 curses

plush gulch
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With screaming its two curse

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Isnt it

short prairie
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finally

full kraken
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you can also make AG curse enemies if you equip it dual wielding a bepsi and a coke, it'll mix the two together on hit and inflict despair on enemies

plush gulch
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I gave him king maker

short prairie
plush gulch
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But enfeeble and temp chain

onyx adder
#

Gz

plush gulch
#

Do they even work?

#

I never feel like temp chain is slowing them

hybrid harness
# short prairie

do u think the minion pact drop makes up for the worse boss/h with zigg phases, and possibly better div/h than abom?

fallow token
#

Ylfeban's Trickery should work too

plush gulch
#

Yes I was considering buying a ylfeban malédiction

onyx adder
hybrid harness
#

oh are u ssf lol

fallow token
#

i used trickery with my profane bloom seemed to work

#

for my ag

full kraken
#

its not the worst but not great either

#

I feel like abomination has the best layout

plush gulch
hybrid harness
#

minion pact is less than a div nvm it isnt worth at all

leaden gust
#

zigg and abom same deal, you just run on the outside until bossroom

hybrid harness
#

abom stays on top

leaden gust
#

but even the cheapest frag on ziggg is like 120+ c

fallow token
slate compass
fallow token
#

the only other real upgrade would be the ES helm

plush gulch
#

Im doing a weird build shock nova elementalist with like 4 spectre and golems

#

No mana scaling

#

Its crowded

fallow token
#

living lightning in the mix?

plush gulch
#

Ah they are here to buff me

hard cliff
#

LIVING LIGHTNING

plush gulch
#

Not dmg

fallow token
#

I was tempted to try something with exploding ice golems

plush gulch
#

Idk what is this gem

fallow token
#

I think for AG most ppl take this Mask of the Stitched Demon

plush gulch
#

Why ?

fallow token
#

survival

#

you get a ton of survival out of it form the regen

plush gulch
#

Im gonna show you m'y character one sec

fallow token
#

I just run gruthkul's on him but if I did t17s maybe i would pick up that helm to just incase

full kraken
#

literally the absolute best way to start off the temple on first map of it, super high odds of getting like a solid 3 copies of T3 locus, maybe even 4

onyx adder
#

I dont think most ppl click stitched demon but its a fine option if u want ur ag to not die to dots

surreal mulch
jolly estuary
#

@charred rune your fans need a 3.28 guide

onyx adder
#

Its content dependent as are most ag slots

surreal mulch
fallow token
#

for late game survival in tougher maps as opposed to something else i mean its not mandatory just considered an upgrade

plush gulch
#

it's fun

#

my build is working out

#

lot of iteration

#

and upgrade and tinkering

fallow token
#

ahh doryani's

plush gulch
#

also im too lazy to put guardian turtle in the pob

#

and enfeeble

#

and whatever

fallow token
#

I think I made 6+ characters this league last one i did was a flicker strike

surreal mulch
#

don't forget that dory is only 6 meters too

plush gulch
surreal mulch
#

wiki

#

also I happend to have been thinking about dory less than 6 minutes ago

fallow token
plush gulch
#

with convocation

#

it's here quite often

#

and I care more about kingmaker for big rare/boss

#

it's fine, i have many defrensive layer

#

I can take a big of variance there, didn't have many issue with it

surreal mulch
#

they need to stop cucking cool items by making their ranges unreliable

fallow token
#

just have to always get in range

surreal mulch
#

like what are you supposed to do with bino,make a poison flicker?

#

I guess mamba

plush gulch
#

my friend wants me to ditch this and use a simplex but it's lame (it's meta) and brick my whole character

onyx adder
#

Bino radius is not unreliable lul

surreal mulch
#

mamba would work

plush gulch
#

don't want to do this

fallow token
#

idk i made a reliquaian thirst for blood flicker strike build

onyx adder
#

3m is small for AG its fucking gigantic for prolif

fallow token
#

it works when the mobs survive longer than 1 second but them im off to the other side of map

surreal mulch
#

OH right. sorry I just confused that with it being limited with gravebind

surreal mulch
#

yeah I guess if you're applying big poisons at range it's ok

fallow token
#

gravebinds are good on AG when you run chains of command and profane bloom

surreal mulch
#

who's applying curses

fallow token
#

i was hyped at start of league at the possibility of maybe getting 2 ags but never happened dont think its possible

surreal mulch
#

skitterbots or on hit?

fallow token
#

but the thought of it was nice

surreal mulch
#

yeah I don't think AG has the framework in place for 2 ag

plush gulch
surreal mulch
#

imagine trying to equip them

#

it'd be cancer

plush gulch
#

what are you even supposed to check or not

fallow token
surreal mulch
#

I tried equipping AG with one handed weapons and shields and it was already super annoying

fallow token
#

maybe if they added a support gem high level that upgrade you AG into a merc

surreal mulch
#

it would keep deleting the wrong item

surreal mulch
fallow token
#

my ag just runs an echoforge pure chaos build

surreal mulch
#

but then it would be a must pick into every build so

surreal mulch
fallow token
#

true but if they made some form of trade off like companionship

surreal mulch
#

he takes half your loot

fallow token
#

they would have to tinker and make sure wording is proper too so that it doesnt break chains of command or be clear that it does

vapid junco
#

tried to finish challenges and ask claude things that can be done together

#

i gave the gdocs

fallow token
#

oh yeah forgot about those maybe i'll do those today

dark kite
#

whats the best order of operations to get a 3p1s item via recomb?

vapid junco
#

tho im not sure it understand the game mechanics enough

fervent jolt
#

is it just me or is bloodline scarab a meme 99% of the time

earnest raven
#

Beast

surreal mulch
onyx adder
surreal mulch
#

constitution do be really nice

vapid junco
#

well can just ignore the stupid advices

surreal mulch
#

imagine if there was a passage jewel that let you extend your tree into one of the 6 notables inside the inner ring. the closest one to your normal char starting location

#

like maraudman gets constitution and templar gets shaper

#

probably won't ever add anything like that because normal passage rules is you can't extend your tree after passaging

full kraken
#

I still would love to see a unique large cluster jewel pair that lets you "jump" from one socket to another, have to socket one in each spot, but it works like the gate keystones on the atlas tree

surreal mulch
#

well yeah I saw that one too

full kraken
#

each adds a keystone, you have to spend the point for the keystone too, so itd be the 3 travel points + 1 for keystone, so 8 points total to make the "jump"

surreal mulch
#

same issue

full kraken
surreal mulch
#

you can't keep growing your tree after using a passage

daring bluff
#

is there any strat to use apparition shrines?

full kraken
daring bluff
#

trying to get a influenced shield/helmet for RF

surreal mulch
#

like on the atlas tree you can but on the normal one you can't. otherwise you'd be able to chain them together to get even more jewel slots

surreal mulch
full kraken
surreal mulch
#

anyways I think my idea is cooler

full kraken
surreal mulch
#

how often do you even need stuff from the other side of the tree anyways

full kraken
#

especially since ggg has already solved this algorithm on the atlas tree, they'd just have to re-use it

surreal mulch
#

I can only think of like CI and other stuff

#

it's almost never actual clusters

onyx dawn
#

What farming strat have you guys been liking? I've been running containment boxes for a while but my speed is limited constantly by waiting for the box to open so looking for something else

full kraken
#

jesus christ

surreal mulch
full kraken
#

thats a lotta tinks

full kraken
surreal mulch
#

is that tumult or something

#

you should really get a tincture they're great

full kraken
full kraken
surreal mulch
#

incomprehensible

full kraken
#

cyclone is just a CWC setup

#

CWC - Vulnerability mostly

surreal mulch
#

why isn't your lightning warp in there then

full kraken
surreal mulch
#

in cwc

#

don't tell me warp main damage

#

isnt that like several mirrors of invest

surreal mulch
#

where is your warp damage coming from

#

what like those purple gloves

#

with the flat

compact bronze
#

how do i progress this??

full kraken
surreal mulch
#

I know I can probably find your pob but this is funnier

surreal mulch
daring bluff
#

how do i make a item influenced?

full kraken
rose quail
#

Everything is so expensive cdomdeadinside_jai Switching to life build and now I need to recraft everything

surreal mulch
full kraken
#

kagenashi you gotta see my vid above on how chill this experience has become haha

rose quail
surreal mulch
#

I still think you should get a tincture

#

but I guess that's one more button

tranquil umbra
surreal mulch
#

and what does that tell you

full kraken
tranquil umbra
surreal mulch
#

what is there no just normal phys tincture?

tranquil umbra
#

no

surreal mulch
#

how

full kraken
surreal mulch
#

OH wait no

tranquil umbra
#

doesn't fit the theme of tinctures

surreal mulch
#

spells

#

yeah

full kraken
#

yee

surreal mulch
#

they should add spell tincture

#

just put your hands into the sauce

rose quail
surreal mulch
#

they gentrified herald of the hive

#

people run it with bv pact now a lot

leaden gust
#

what vid?

surreal mulch
#

so the items might be expensive

surreal mulch
leaden gust
#

oh ye found it

rose quail
# surreal mulch people run it with bv pact now a lot

Yeah, I also saw that the tattoos are expensive AF. Which is whatever. Incinerate was almost viable in the past, the only thing was it had questionable clear and you had to sacrifice damage to get explosions in. Hive solves everything

surreal mulch
#

3 passives for 16% life is bad efficiency right?

#

unless you don't have much else to spend them on

rose quail
#

Depends where you at and the build

full kraken
rose quail
surreal mulch
#

damn I have to press a button every 4 seconds

rose quail
#

I was doing my dailies the other day while farming Tul/Esh. They just take so long for phases

surreal mulch
#

actually probably more

#

yeah like 5

#

25 if unleash

full kraken
#

what does... this emoji even mean, what is it 🫰

ebon cloak
#

mfing popup ads in discord now??

rose quail
#

Yeah. I clicked once tho on didnt ask and it never showed up so far for me

ebon cloak
#

oh i guess its a discord game

#

thats a little less distressing 😅

grizzled nest
#

most fun build?

#

not top tier

#

fun

surreal mulch
#

but hipster

rose quail
#

Entirely personal. RF and Incinerate best builds fr fr

ebon cloak
#

fun hmm

#

whats that?

grizzled nest
#

.-.

ebon cloak
#

lol jk

surreal mulch
rose quail
#

Zana is like "Atlas cannot be studied". Well, good thing I am here for looting and not studying

ebon cloak
#

idk enough to reccomend anything, especially with how diffwerent peopels idea of fun are

tranquil umbra
grizzled nest
ebon cloak
tranquil umbra
#

yes

surreal mulch
#

literally an entirely different building path

#

and system

#

you stack mana

tranquil umbra
#

it's a mana stacker

ebon cloak
ebon cloak
tranquil umbra
#

yes

ebon cloak
#

i heard the playstyles were similar

surreal mulch
# ebon cloak now that sounds fun, though would it be that different from bv?

https://www.twitch.tv/onemanaleft

https://pobb.in/2IlgEgPLfNXo - day 1 gear ~2D
https://pobb.in/dVK_LtEOIK3i - day 3 gear ~20D
https://pobb.in/7dXamrP_6CiI - day 7 gear ~200D
mageblood PoB just go triple ele flask + jade and drop purity of elements for dmg aura

0:00 intro
0:37 nerf comparison
1:35 55c demo
3:40 tier 16 map
6:10 day 3 3.27 to...

▶ Play video
grizzled nest
ebon cloak
surreal mulch
#

movement in cyclone is quite different

ebon cloak
#

fair

#

tbh maybe ill try that, i have been wanting to play a mana stacker and a hiero/templar

surreal mulch
#

you also hold down a button as opposed to needing to press one frequently while also walking

ebon cloak
#

and ive always wanted to go archmage lol

surreal mulch
#

yeah mjolner is the best archmage user basically

#

there are exceedingly few sources of manacheating in this game

ebon cloak
#

4fingers crossed i can stomach another campaign though

#

even with leveling uniques xD

hard cliff
surreal mulch
#

back?

tranquil umbra
#

mjolner works exceptionally well with indigon also

surreal mulch
#

actually it's stronger since 3.27 due to foulborn

ebon cloak
#

ooh interesting

hard cliff
tranquil umbra
#

increased aoe

ebon cloak
#

honestly getting my hyped to do a second build xD

tranquil umbra
#

instead of chain

hard cliff
ebon cloak
#

ima have to grind out the mageblood and stuff though, i wanna do a big invested build for once

tranquil umbra
#

we go ball with mjolner

#

because the build is baller

final owl
#

isn't MB cheap af rn

tranquil umbra
#

140d

livid quarry
#

128d

surreal mulch
# hard cliff What's the foulborn line ?

well there's several options. you can either trade the plus chain for aoe or you can get a built in lighting spell which is basically +1 support link at the cost of using a spell with worse added damage effectiveness

#

I never seen anyone use the latter

#

though a literal lighting bolt from the sky is pretty cool

ebon cloak
#

wont be a long grind

#

though i might also jsut wait and try this out next league, since that video is running it league starter

final owl
#

i've been considering switching to MB from screams but i think i might be too lazy

ebon cloak
#

ive been loiving screams

surreal mulch
#

because you're like triple dipping on all your invests

ebon cloak
#

nice

#

as is my over-invested bv ele is definitely sufficient for this league

#

maybe not 40/40 without any more upgrades but also maybe lol

#

i havent tried any ubers yet 😅

final owl
#

i don't like the armour set enough to even 36/40 :I

ebon cloak
#

its better than nothing for me 😅

#

a tiny tiny bit better than the phrecia league autumn knight armor

shut iron
#

I’m still trying to get the hierophant holy flame totem build to work

#

Did they nerf totems too much

ebon cloak
#

someday i do wanna run a pure holy build

final owl
#

I keep telling myself i'll get to challenges but i have a suspicion..

#

but i will probs get the bv chief to 100 at least

ebon cloak
#

i got my first 100 this league as well so thats a push towards going all 40/40 my first time

#

GGG has been defeated

shut iron
#

Lots of exp this league

ebon cloak
#

though the astrolabe challenge is such a DRAAAAGGGG

shut iron
#

Mirage is prob my favorite league mechanic

final owl
#

there is a pretty wild amount of power creep this league

ebon cloak
#

cant wait til its gone 😭

shut iron
#

No way mirage stays core

ebon cloak
#

reduced to rarer than wildwoods

#

or gone entirely

#

RIP screams

#

gonna be mirror for the shittest SoD

final owl
#

astrolabes feel a bit whatever. i guess it's nice additional map juice for some but the rewards are mostly so underwhelming

ebon cloak
#

yeah im only doing em cus of the challenge

#

though ive gotten a few nice drops in doing so lol

rose quail
#

I like them because of the targeted vaults

ebon cloak
#

3 div, cooldown recovery

final owl
#

best i've had is a valdos or a raw single div i think

wintry lily
#

I think astrolabes could either be more rewarding still

#

or just be more common

#

i think when I was boss rush and barya farming I got like

#

5-6 astrolabes

ebon cloak
#

yeah the cheapest astrolabes were still 77c

wintry lily
#

sold like 50+ nightmare maps etc tho

#

and 30+ originator mirage maps

ebon cloak
#

definitely spending more than those 3 divs ive dropped jsut to do the one challenge

#

the altar part is especially gonna suck

wintry lily
#

fairly sure i got more barya than astrolabes

final owl
#

i have probably over 2m kills this league and i still havent completed some of the grindier challenges

hard cliff
#

I need to watch the youtube video on it

#

GUYS WATCH THE YOUTUBE VIDEO

rose quail
#

Ironically I haven't been doing the challenges but I have most of grindier dones because that's just how I play

ebon cloak
final owl
#

granted i havent actually deliberately tried to do any challenges

rose quail
#

I'm at 17/40 from just playing

final owl
#

i'm at maybe 20/40 or something

hard cliff
#

I got like 12

#

I got the boots

#

whatever booty tier is

final owl
#

i am sure i have at least 5 or 6 super easy to complete ones not touched

hard cliff
#

Merchant are like 5

ebon cloak
#

30/40 after a little intentional challenge running

#

well see if i even get 36 if once humans new pass is any good tomorrow or so 😅

rose quail
#

I'm waiting for Barotrauma DLC but that's still a while away

#

But if I keep playing I'm going for mirror to mirror a helm not challenges kek

hard cliff
#

I've beaten the game at this point

#

(I can't figure out how to upgrade my build)

opaque sphinx
subtle imp
#

I started from 3 immortals

grizzled lily
#

prime chaotic resonator 1.4div

surreal mulch
# opaque sphinx

technically if you can only attack once every 10 minutes then your dps is only 1 mil

ebon cloak
#

are the cards, scripture, or ring worth more?

subtle imp
surreal mulch
#

why would the ring be worth less than the only way to get the ring after a hard challenge

subtle imp
#

Scripture is only 3k

wintry lily
ebon cloak
#

daaaaang

surreal mulch
steel light
surreal mulch
#

never gamble

hard cliff
#

@surreal mulch

stark copper
#

first time seeing this

hard cliff
#

That's right

subtle imp
hard cliff
wintry lily
subtle imp
ebon cloak
#

id cry if i made 5700 divs

#

cus wtf am i gonna do with that

subtle imp
stark copper
#

somethign very very weird i just found, see these 2 nodes waaaaaay off the screen to the side of the map with no way to access it? top right, i am inside a mirage

surreal mulch
subtle imp
#

I have bigger balls than this entire discord.

ebon cloak
#

gimme 500 across 10 leagues any day xD

surreal mulch
#

there's like one guy on the planet actually doing sanctum rn

ebon cloak
opaque sphinx
opal ingot
gritty garnet
#

mirage can spawn unreachable content unfortunately

candid stag
#

What could I level w on bv chief tain? Sunder ?

opal ingot
gritty garnet
#

level as rf probably

hardy heath
opaque sphinx
#

surely

surreal mulch
#

eventually people will stop buying the fukin cards for no reason

candid stag
surreal mulch
#

and the price will make sense again

steel light
opaque sphinx
#

both hit 9% wtf

ebon cloak
#

daaaang

opal ingot
# subtle imp Gamblers

Exactly. It looks more stupid than homs and apothrcaries being worth more than mirrors and mageblood, but gambling and the potential of getting more makes it worth more than the actual thing bcuz of demand

surreal mulch
#

well yeah as I said,bubble. it's all speculative and eventually the wave will die down and they will all devalue

opal ingot
#

Why is it a bubble

subtle imp
#

Cus of Damnation farmers + osin prices dying

surreal mulch
#

it's not like a COMPLETE one but partially

surreal mulch
gritty garnet
#

because there's only so many builds that actually use osin

subtle imp
#

ykw mfs

surreal mulch
#

also yeah

subtle imp
#

Should I buy belts?

#

I swore I never would

#

But with 5,000 divines, should I?

ebon tendon
#

no the only build that uses osin is fubgun's

#

?

fossil ibex
loud geyser
subtle imp
surreal mulch
#

events you will have no more buyers that actually want to buy damnations and scriptures

opaque sphinx
#

bv also use osin

gritty garnet
#

you don't need it when all your damage comes from flat chaos already

ebon tendon
#

xdd

opaque sphinx
#

there's a lot of shit u can do with osin

limpid prairie
#

Purple lifeforce is 3 times less valuable than yellow gambling really is the life blood of the game

ebon tendon
#

it is an illness we are easily susceptible to

surreal mulch
#

nah I think thats mostly actual crafts

#

gambling takes up very little yellow

opaque sphinx
#

?

gritty garnet
#

it gets you more single target if you're actually in the nearby

opaque sphinx
#

its 2k per click

surreal mulch
#

isn't it 200 per card

opaque sphinx
#

gambling is the main use for yellow

#

no

#

its 2k per click

surreal mulch
#

weird

#

ok

gritty garnet
#

it's flat cost per click

ebon tendon
#

1,500

limpid prairie
#

gambling is the best way to clean your stash

steel light
tough cove
#

gambling both for cards and synths are far and away the biggest users of yellow

opaque sphinx
#

1500 yeah same shit only dif

surreal mulch
#

you don't clean your stash

#

you keep it and sell it for mirrors when they eventually discontinue an item you have for no reason

#

async trade made standard trade actually viable

ebon tendon
#

bleh

hardy heath
#

3rd in sub 20 maps

forest flower
#

a single card? kekw

#

need 7 moar

hardy heath
#

i swear theres like 0 difference to running 200c investment breach and 2div+ investment

ebon cloak
#

run strongboxes imo

proud pebble
#

in the series of maps there is

#

you're just juicing your jackpot chance a lot of the time

rose quail
#

Breach is fine. I'm doing low invest tho.

ebon cloak
#

Every chest you don't open, every boulder you don't flip has a mirror underneath

hardy heath
#

im running low invest breach too, i spend around 150c per map and i get around 2-3div

#

3-5 when running with friend

proud pebble
#

juice breach also gives way more blood so

subtle imp
#

I gave away 500d in g420

rose quail
#

150c per map is like ultra high invest for me kek

subtle imp
#

The fact that I can do that and have it be less than 10% of my total worth rn is fucking absurd

#

Is this what being skilled feels like

compact bronze
#

do unidentified shirne belts sell fast?

proud pebble
#

better lucky than good

ebon cloak
subtle imp
#

Save it until then

ebon cloak
modest sparrow
subtle imp
#

I guarantee you the price will skyrocket

compact bronze
#

is it profitable to just run barya maps and sell unidentified?

ebon cloak
#

... is that insider trading?

subtle imp
#

Not really

compact bronze
#

planning to do this but not sure if profitable

subtle imp
#

Not statistically

opaque sphinx
#

surely

proud pebble
subtle imp
#

Good night, brothers

subtle imp
#

Started with 500, then 100, then 0 and 3 immortals

#

And now I can play any build I want

opaque sphinx
#

9% again and a poof

ebon cloak
subtle imp
#

If not a bit more

ebon cloak
#

id say best money from baryas is just doing mroe maps and always lookin for ridan/ridan wish and selling the baryas, no gamba