1┃general

[cobalt blade]

minion pact invert the rules overloaded intensity

[ebon cloak]

I got block-locked in exarchs flame wall then beat him before meteors xD

[cobalt blade]

greater spell echo giving 2 repeats for spells

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Exceptional_support_gem

[pure arch]

companionship support

[brave igloo]

The only awakened gems left are enlighten, empower and enhance. Everything else is gone and now we have a ton of Exceptional Support Gems instead.

[ocean field]

Ok

I see

[pure arch]

i saw some coc stuff using cooldown support

[cobalt blade]

That would see almost no use without minion pact so its not real D:

Only like bex hat would use it for golems

[noble sleet]

wow yeah diamond is EVEN cheaper now lmao

this is kind of a steal

[cobalt blade]

cast on wardbreaks also nuts

[spice pecan]

damn, they're going down

[cobalt blade]

this rly has been confusing me every time i see it go down diamond be nuts

[noble sleet]

ahh man is massive really worth it tho for oneeee mirror idk lmao.

[ocean field]

so for coc is it worth running an exception support gem?

coc fross btw

the cooldown recovery one

[spice pecan]

i mean maybe

[cobalt blade]

Itll shoot up if streamers make some stuff around it tho lol

[noble sleet]

does the aoe make my blade vortex a lot bigger or?

[ocean field]

should I use cooldown recovery one or just forbidden flame "like clockwork" for 50%

[cobalt blade]

depends on if you hit a break point and if that breakpoint is more damage than a 30% more dmg support and if you can reach the attack speed

[ocean field]

hmm I see I guess the clock work makes more sense

[pure arch]

i mostly see cdr support outside of shadow

[cobalt blade]

almost definitely lol

[pure arch]

but coc isn't popular rn

[cobalt blade]

I use it for arcane cloak uptime personally

[gentle chasm]

pob it

[proud pebble]

i guess diamond people are upgrading to double belt?

[gentle chasm]

tbh

[spice pecan]

wait, you can upgrade them to double?

[cobalt blade]

some prob are but it wouldn't devalue the belt that much

[cobalt blade]

no they just mean buying new ones

[pure arch]

no, you just buy a new one lmao

[cobalt blade]

and selling the single

[spice pecan]

O

[proud pebble]

cdr support is used in every miner build on detonate mines

[cobalt blade]

If you could upgrade them it wouldnt be 5 mirrors for echoing impen and resist+good shrine would actually exist

lol

[proud pebble]

just recomb 2 together smh

[cobalt blade]

Ye its more of a secondary skill thing

[gentle chasm]

isnt that a waste

[proud pebble]

no?

[cobalt blade]

it makes mapping faster no?

[gentle chasm]

you can throw out only so many mines

[proud pebble]

you throw faster than you detonate

it reduces mine overthrow

[cobalt blade]

just having them detonate faster feels better and does help with your clear so your waiting less between packs

[proud pebble]

it also allows you to spec redetonate nodes

mines; being the absolute complicated being that they are get thrown based on throw speed (and action and attack to a degree), then detonate in sequence based on detonate speed, if they do not detonate faster than your throw, you accummulate mines up to your cap, and then when you hit your cap you get mine overthrow.

which isn't a problem usually until you get boatloads of mine throw speed, or 25%+ redetonate

[split maple]

whats the ethical stages for corrupting fever in pob?

[slate compass]

this is pain game

that thing is rarwe

[brave igloo]

Pretty common

[cobalt blade]

entirely depends on ur hit count

And attack speed

[slate compass]

huh na you have 150 div vs 12 sacred pretty rare

[brave igloo]

It's still far more common than mirror xD

[cobalt blade]

And cb refreshes all stack dura on applying another stack

[vivid pumice]

but 1 div is 4 sacred

[cobalt blade]

trade prices arent indicative of rarity

[split maple]

so what hits per sec * whatever ramp time i am happy with?

[vivid pumice]

oh well ysa

[cobalt blade]

that i dont know off the top of my head

[brave igloo]

If you don't have some really slow attack rate just set it to max stacks

[split maple]

gonna slap in 10 stages and not worry 😛

eh thats the max anyways

i thought its more

[cobalt blade]

cb is inherently 10 stack limit

[split maple]

makes sense

i rly hope hot is reliable enough at hitting there

[cobalt blade]

Ye prolly personally only ever played it as kblast so it was just instant 10 stacks lol

[proud pebble]

should have hit a lock tbh

[final owl]

woop sold a thing. now i only have to grind 35 dirty ds.

[split maple]

wtb easy way to get 30% ailment avoid that aint boots

[brave igloo]

0 so far, never dropped one so far

[proud pebble]

wild

[final owl]

uh.. ailment avoid on shield?

[proud pebble]

ive dropped a lock every league except this

[frigid wedge]

sleepy

[proud pebble]

yeah shield, boots, i think jewel

[final owl]

orrr.. ailment avoid on abyss jewel?

[brave igloo]

I'm 0 locks and mirrors since I started playing in Legacy League

[split maple]

hm can anoint crystal skin and then only need 10%

lemme check abyssals

[cobalt blade]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Grand_Spectrum_(Viridian_Jewel,_ailment_avoidance)

[proud pebble]

ancestral vision

[neon steppe]

dps looking gooid

[proud pebble]

if you are spell supp

[cobalt blade]

based sparking

[frigid wedge]

wtf did u doo

[trail thunder]

Are there any other ways to achieve poison immunity besides flask effect, ascendancy or armor/evasion mastery?

[proud pebble]

ring corrupt

[split maple]

boots

[cobalt blade]

jewels

[proud pebble]

CI

😄

[trail thunder]

What jewels, what boots

[cobalt blade]

CI isn't poison immune you just arent taking chaos damage

[frigid wedge]

just having regen for it

[ocean field]

does volley not work with coc fross?

[cobalt blade]

avoid poison rolls on abyss jewels and you can get reduced poison duration as jewel implicits

[crisp obsidian]

essence mod

[cosmic raptor]

leg alive?

[spice pecan]

dadleg?

[onyx adder]

Also do u need unaffected for golden rule or similar or do u just not want to take random poison damage

[frigid wedge]

ain't that where they put Athena

[cosmic raptor]

if i drop 1 damnation i quit the leg

🐖

[frigid wedge]

u need those to walk

[cosmic raptor]

overrated

[proud pebble]

tbh i only die on poiison if it's like a sub 20% chaos resist char so

[split maple]

🥹 surely there is smh more reasonable than using 1 gs just for that

[proud pebble]

there's a boots implicit too

[cobalt blade]

Impossible escape pt?

[neon steppe]

made a good build id

idk

[ocean field]

Can someone let me know

[split maple]

oooh thats a nice one

[spice pecan]

put volley into your inventory and see if it's compatible with forbidden rite

if you see a checkmark, yes

[ocean field]

ok

damm I just found this

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1mbb8z1/results_from_forbidden_rite_projectiles_overlap/?share_id=BOcPonesqLjUtOMwI0nlf&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

bro has written a paper on this

[opaque sphinx]

how do u trigger first to strike last to fall on demand?

[spice pecan]

cf lifetap usually

if that's the adrenaline one

[opaque sphinx]

ye

[rancid sluice]

the wiki explains the overlap too

[opaque sphinx]

not enough damn

only does 1500/4100

[final owl]

ugh. +2 minion annihilations approach 55d yesterday 74d today. maybe.. i should try to corrupt my own..

[frigid wedge]

yes

u should

[ocean field]

I just realized these damage number do not make much sense since each project will not overlap 😭

[proud pebble]

which build is this for

[final owl]

minion pact bv on chief

[proud pebble]

ah, no wonder my endurance charge ones were only 8div

[opaque sphinx]

there we go

lvl 13 cf with lifetap and second wind is 2300/4100 life

worth going from 37->34m dps for 10% pdr and 20% ms i think

[vivid pumice]

fubgun army deployed

[runic barn]

im tryna move away from my onyx amulet. are there obvious upgrades in terms of bases everyone should go for?

[spice pecan]

depends on what you need

ashes of the stars gives all attr and good levels/qual

[runic barn]

oh facts i forgot it gave attr

[vivid pumice]

yoke thoughts

[final owl]

why la deadeye getting AA boots :I

[vivid pumice]

everyone on thar bv ship now

[spice pecan]

fub playing bv now

[opaque sphinx]

the fuck adrenaline jewels are 50c ea LOL

[cobalt blade]

if ur spell/some attacks a +3 replica dragonsfang can be good

[proud pebble]

buybuybuy

[runic barn]

my amulet is kind of a crutch atm that gives me a bit of cold res, and a bunch of dex and int for gear reqs

[final owl]

oh rip. that explains it i guess

[cobalt blade]

why would you steal nodes that require u to do dog shit weapon swap adrenaline stuff or drop 3 sockets in your main gear D:

[proud pebble]

ff jeweles are so volatile, i wanted to switch to a perfect crime build and the jewel was 90d+ each cos of mathil and now it's 5d each

[final owl]

at least I got 90% of it done before it got gooned

[rancid sluice]

the wrath of popular builds

[vivid pumice]

opportunity for many

just buying all of that unique wep whatever its called

[split maple]

hmm whats the dps target to reliably do wisped breach? doubt i can get cf over 3mil dps

[vivid pumice]

ans reselling 1 day after

[opaque sphinx]

i happen to have 3 sockets free that i have no clue what to do with

[final owl]

which one? i'm using nebulis

[cobalt blade]

3 enhances across different skills

or empowers

[opaque sphinx]

i mean i have vaal haste as one of the 3 but it feels like padding tbh i never end up pressing it cuz i have vls

[split palm]

oh hey, one of CoWBs sold

[opaque sphinx]

on what lol

[cobalt blade]

vaal temptations vaal haste

[cobalt blade]

i have no idea lol

[proud pebble]

static strike w/ rage imbu + fortify support + trauma

[split palm]

Need to save 70d for a base...

[vivid pumice]

tf

[halcyon prawn]

ive been in hideout for the last several hours, i just closed the game

[cobalt blade]

this just sounds bad they are playing champ

champ always takes fortify node

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/9qdUdufzGmed

[cobalt blade]

I think champ atelast

Oh glad i see

[opaque sphinx]

but yeah i have 3 free sockets so was debating dropping bane of legends for adrenaline

i go to 30m dps but gain 10% pdr and some ms

[split palm]

-71d

[opaque sphinx]

idk if i really need the pdr tho tbh

[vivid pumice]

oh the ultimate fubgun

[split palm]

it's the BIS chest tbh

[cobalt blade]

the ms is worth it

[opaque sphinx]

no adren vs adren

[vivid pumice]

71d is.such a jolly price tho

[split palm]

It's reasonable tbh

26 base

it's pain to get

even more pain to frac

[vivid pumice]

didnt see that 26 nvm

[opaque sphinx]

i do most of my moving with whirl tho

[split palm]

and move

[opaque sphinx]

w/e they were 100c i may as well just test it

[split palm]

like the unfrac one is 40d I believe

and not moved

[vivid pumice]

oh.

[ebon cloak]

THEY SAID IT COULDNT BE DONE

[opaque sphinx]

nobody lettin me be lazy damn

[spice pecan]

do ppl actually use that chaos damage mod

[ebon cloak]

barely 2 hours in delve

[split palm]

it's cheaper to buy than gamble

[spice pecan]

it sounds like shit

[cobalt blade]

not worth tossing a light of meaning in duelist socket? Either life or whatever the best dmg one is

[cosmic raptor]

yum

[cobalt blade]

yes

[ebon cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-bark-gif-20068634

[cobalt blade]

sebk uses it for extra reservation space on his aura stack guardian

[split palm]

now I need to get like 10d to craft shit

[cobalt blade]

he can reserve 49% of the life with arctic armour n shit

just leave that 51% for it to work lol

[spice pecan]

oh sure

[cobalt blade]

it also sees play for rf enabling

Since cant use ci with rf

[cosmic raptor]

(◕‿◕)

[spice pecan]

wait how does it enable rf with ci

[cobalt blade]

pure es stack no life to es stuff

[cobalt blade]

reread

[spice pecan]

i guess

[opaque sphinx]

my rare jewel is p gud and lom is kinda bad if ur tri ele

[cobalt blade]

you just play yknow 20-30k es 1.5k base life with tha mod

[cobalt blade]

fair enough

[cobalt blade]

Ye i did say wutevers best since I know its not great for tri

[stray sedge]

I keep hearing about breach being combined with delirium, but it seems kinda bad to grab all the points. What delirium nodes are people grabbing?

[split palm]

like how do you even craft the chest xd

[cobalt blade]

Would make an argument for chaos res one though

But would require a lot of regearing

[split palm]

resonator defence spam?

[cosmic raptor]

https://pobb.in/hHOcQdSU3Cq3

i wonder what jewel i can remove here and add inspired learning?

[cobalt blade]

Would enable crit multi rings dropping chaos res implicit on rings into flat res there

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

Or dropping crit on gloves

er chaos on gloves*

get temple mod into the build

[ocean field]

Does this increase attack speed?

[cobalt blade]

It is an explicit speed mod yes

[split maple]

if you have attack speed explicit

it doesnt modify the base aps

[opaque sphinx]

i hate that ur right

[ocean field]

so in this case it would be 8% of 27%?? so like 2%?

[opaque sphinx]

but it also gives me a goal to work on i guess lol

[cobalt blade]

yep it would be 29% inc

[ocean field]

I see

[opaque sphinx]

tyty

[surreal mulch]

apparently this whole time those like 20 evolving shrines I used didn't work because minions. kms

[cobalt blade]

its such a nice lom socket it feels wrong not having one there if your not lethal priding or otherwise

[split palm]

you love to see it

[opaque sphinx]

yeah i stared at it for so long trying to fit one in and being mad they were all bad lmao

but i forgot abt chaos res one

[cobalt blade]

lol

[cosmic raptor]

change the colors

[split palm]

how about you fuck off with that

default colour user

[cosmic raptor]

change the colors

[cobalt blade]

make em all bright neon green

[cosmic raptor]

bubblegum pink

[opaque sphinx]

would enable temple mod, swapping ring to %life one, and swapping chaos res on either boots/helm

prob boots cuz they i could unveil non dam for more shock eff

[cobalt blade]

solid dmg up for a build that seems like it lacks inc

[opaque sphinx]

wait i cant they have fractured ms

[split palm]

another one

[opaque sphinx]

yeah my inc dmg has gotten better but still not great

[split palm]

we love stupid boxes

[cosmic raptor]

they cant contain you

[split palm]

btw

[opaque sphinx]

im lacking more really

[split palm]

@cosmic raptor do you go to boss first

kill it

and maybe get quant from altars

or just go as you go?

[cosmic raptor]

doesnt affect stronboxes

so meh

[split palm]

it's map quant

[lucid kiln]

I was just browsing the poe trade website and i came across this valdo map

[split palm]

it affects

[lucid kiln]

what the forklift is this even

[split palm]

player quant doesn't

[cobalt blade]

it affects one side of the box loot

[split palm]

diviners are not affected tho

[cosmic raptor]

😳

[cobalt blade]

doesnt effect the flat rewards does affect the mob drop side

[split palm]

and I think cartographers

[split palm]

not eldritch

[cobalt blade]

It works the same way for every box

Contains x rewards doesn't scale with map quant at all

[cosmic raptor]

ok then boss should be the way to go

[ebon cloak]

is holy flame totem popular?

[split palm]

will affect

[opaque sphinx]

till like act 2 yeah

[ebon cloak]

;-;

oof

[spice pecan]

its endgame viable now

or at least supposedly

[pure arch]

I think I saw some holy flame totem stuff going on

[opaque sphinx]

it is but i wouldn't call it popular

[pure arch]

It works

[cobalt blade]

on boxes theres a mod that rolls contains x additional items tha does get affected nor does any of the flat rewards of the boxes

[cobalt blade]

which is what i was referring to with flat rewards^

[cosmic raptor]

rarity affects them too or just quant?

[split palm]

that was a nice box ngl

[cobalt blade]

affects the rares and uniques i think but do you rly care about that from corrupted boxes

[opaque sphinx]

i wonder if im doing containment how worth it is to not take the corrupted node and only do operative/div/arcanist and roll them

[cobalt blade]

gonna get hit with the 2 flask mageblood

[viscid ruin]

they kinda freaky 💀

[cosmic raptor]

😂

[opaque sphinx]

when u guys are running boxes do u click them all or only the good 3

[cobalt blade]

i click em all because dopamine

its fun

i play game to have fun

[cosmic raptor]

i click all since im playing kboc and one shot everything

[split palm]

the fuck you doing in sucknctum

[opaque sphinx]

thats what i been doing but just wondering if its more profit to skip

[cosmic raptor]

within 2 mile radius

[opaque sphinx]

bruh nobody sell a cf between lvl 2-13

smh i gotta kill like 100 mobs

[cobalt blade]

i think it is but its definitely not worth the sanity loss of dropping corrupted node

[split palm]

everything in map

[opaque sphinx]

eh fuck it an extra button every 20 secs sounds like work

[split palm]

do vaal

it's way faster

occasionally you get a bad mod

"all scarabs are of the same type"

[cobalt blade]

Oh also engi orbs being gone removes the whole reason to do non corrupted

[split palm]

asnd will drop like 50 delve scarabs

but save hours

[ebon hatch]

chat, after leveling up from 97 to 99 solely on BREACH, I can stomach it no more... what other farming strats would you recommend which are not boring AF ?

[opaque sphinx]

i thought the qual was just baked into them now

[cosmic raptor]

thoughts anyone? 🤔

[split palm]

sad

[cobalt blade]

idk if it is but im saying it removes the whole reason to not run that since it was the main extra benefit

[cosmic raptor]

imagine 20 bloodlines

[cobalt blade]

prob the mana unique one and toss a foulborn IL into your cluster

(unless they removed that one i don't actually remember)

[split palm]

lol 2 nat divs

[brave igloo]

Gotta say, I can do deathless ghosted Feared but juiced ghosted Exceptional Exiles? Some of em rip me apart in two hits...

[split palm]

it can happen...

[opaque sphinx]

remove ur impossible escape since ur not even using it

[cosmic raptor]

its still here

[opaque sphinx]

its literally a wasted socket

[cosmic raptor]

i am using it?

[cobalt blade]

oh its 153 divines lmao

[split palm]

just buy a headhunter

[opaque sphinx]

this is ur pob no

[cosmic raptor]

it just doesnt show there i g

[opaque sphinx]

the fuck

mine works

thats so weird

[cobalt blade]

are u on a different pob version

[opaque sphinx]

ohi havent updated mine

seems like i shouldnt tho

[split palm]

actually not the worthless one

[opaque sphinx]

then yeah ur only option is healthy mind

[cosmic raptor]

i lose less here no?

[split palm]

what tier is khatal's weeping lol

[cobalt blade]

-737 es

your es is alot more important than dmg if ur going IL

[split palm]

oh, it's league

[ebon cloak]

I havent played fable in a very long time but i still wish i could kick the chickens in kingsmarch

[cosmic raptor]

hmm, i guess so
i'd get it back after upgrading my helical and amulet

just need a mirror to upgrade both

😆

[opaque sphinx]

u also cant put the IL anywhere besides where the healthy mind is

[cobalt blade]

That is why i recommended foulborn one lol

since it can just go into clusters for free

But yknow 153d

[opaque sphinx]

yer

[cosmic raptor]

153d is nothing

[opal ingot]

Wait that's funny lol

Holy fuck

[cobalt blade]

cant have radius in clusters

no notables in a 0 radius

[opal ingot]

That's double weird to me. If you can't have radius in clusters then it feels like ggg would've disabled putting that in a cluster

But they didn't...

[cosmic raptor]

why do you think its more expensive than actual headhunter

😂

[cobalt blade]

Was not disabled last league

[opal ingot]

And my voidforge is all about phys to ele...

[cobalt blade]

And people legit ran 4 of them

[opal ingot]

Hoooooly

[cobalt blade]

To literally just have hh on jewels

[opal ingot]

Login

[onyx adder]

This has been true forever its why ppl used to use fortress covenant in cluster sockets

[cobalt blade]

Yup

[opal ingot]

Til

[opal ingot]

Idk scarcity

[cosmic raptor]

arent there just enough rares in like breach for 20s to be enough?

[spice pecan]

i feel like i saw some wording from ggg this league about radius jewels and how the interact with clusters, eg. they arent supposed to work

[cobalt blade]

well ur only stealing 1 mod

Out of 3-4 on rares in a total pool of like 100

[low lava]

Ready for 0 tinks. Aye, aye boxes 😂

[cobalt blade]

and you can steal the same mod 3 times

you can absolutely get some bad IL maps with just 1

[ocean field]

chance of getting corrupted blood cannot be inflicted on you implicit on miltant faith timeless jewel?

[frigid wedge]

i got more tinks in uncorrupted t16 maps yesterday than u have on boxes all league mapping

[cosmic raptor]

hmm, perhaps i should buy it and try it out in breach

[opal ingot]

I'm doing boxes and I'm tinking almost every map lol

[low lava]

I have only done 2 days of boxes.
All my profit has come from Legion and Breach 😂

[cobalt blade]

25% chance for implicits into a 1/21 and then a 1/20 if templing

so gl

[frigid wedge]

all my profit has come from lab

[low lava]

yeah i did close to 400 boxes combined yesterday.
think it was 3-4 tinks.

[frigid wedge]

i get tinks while I'm grabbing some gold

[opal ingot]

Holy

[cosmic cobalt]

gentlemen is there any fast leveling build standing out currently? or its still KF selfcast thing by jungroan?

[ocean field]

so in the what is the net

[frigid wedge]

i be farming deli orbs and red altars for gold tbf

[ocean field]

1/20?

[low lava]

Even 2 empowered mirage maps, gave nothing

[ocean field]

or 1/100

[cobalt blade]

wtf does this sentence mean

[opaque sphinx]

i dont think ive had a single containment map that didnt at the very minimum pay itself back

[ocean field]

I mean net probability to get the corrupted blood cannot be inflicted when corrupting

1/100

[prime whale]

if anyone doing nighmare map can i tag along? i need to open last slot (noob started poe this league)

[ocean field]

or 1 in 20

[onyx adder]

1/84

[vivid pumice]

the glove that i want is gone gg

[onyx adder]

With vaal orb

[rustic sluice]

Guys what do you think is better     a bow this with 2 extra arrows but 1100 edps , or a bow without the extra arrows but 1400 edps ( LA Deadeye )

[ocean field]

ah fk it

Imma just buy

[onyx adder]

Probably a solid decision

[opaque sphinx]

this is why we go divine flesh

[bold scarab]

Clearing build so extra arrows

[bold scarab]

Divine fish

[cobalt blade]

the 1/20 at the end was 2nd implicit not chances and ye 1/84 as wtd said

[frigid wedge]

me running a random 6 mod dunes with exarch pack size and 4 scarab slots and dropping 2d

[cobalt blade]

Since first implicit is blocked for 2nd

[rustic sluice]

Yea , i was leaning the same way , is jsut that when I put them in POB the ones without the extra arrows gives me like 4 mil dps more ... But I don;t know if POB Takes in consideration the extra arrows

[cosmic raptor]

@cobalt bladethink i found a good helical, what do you think

[low lava]

Yeah, i think my luck thise league is spend

[bold scarab]

The extra arrows don't shotgun so you gain no DPS ... But clearing is better

[cobalt blade]

looks like a 1.7-1.8 depends on roll ranges

not bad

[frigid wedge]

half my luck this league has been put into finding ek of the massacre gems

[bold scarab]

Actually

Ignore me

[vivid pumice]

gulp...

[cosmic raptor]

cast speed should be harmless

[bold scarab]

It's true but

[frigid wedge]

and anime of ranged

[bold scarab]

You'll already have 3 arrows

[cobalt blade]

The reduced cast speed might feel ass for your move skill if your using flame dash otherwise pretty harmless

[frigid wedge]

wait does uh

[bold scarab]

You don't need 5

[frigid wedge]

cast while channelling have a cooldown

can i increase the frequency

[cobalt blade]

(specifically when your spamming the dash)

[frigid wedge]

or is it a set interval

[bold scarab]

Take the bow with more dmg ... You should already have 3 arrows because of the tree

[cosmic raptor]

nah, shield charge only

[bold scarab]

I forgot about the 2 you get from the tree

[cobalt blade]

no cooldown

[rustic sluice]

is 3 extra arrows the maximum you can have as extra?

[cobalt blade]

ah ic

[frigid wedge]

just interval?

sad

[cobalt blade]

Yuh

[bold scarab]

No it's just 3 is more than enough for clearing

[frigid wedge]

was hoping i could just make my build into a cyclone that warps constantly

[vivid pumice]

me on +5 arrows:

[bold scarab]

You can have as many arrows as you can fit into the build

It's just

[frigid wedge]

im firin 7 with 4 skill proj

[bold scarab]

Not worth it mostly

[vivid pumice]

mhm yes i caress the mobs

[cobalt blade]

always worth it D:

more proj=more fun

[frigid wedge]

I can clear deli mirror 16s

im working on it

its getting better

[bold scarab]

So ye stick with 3 and take the extra dps ... Until you can get a bow that gives you both the extra dps and the extra arrows together kek

[cosmic raptor]

aspect of the spider was a skill, aura? i forgot how it works

[vivid pumice]

erm

[frigid wedge]

reservation spell

not an aura

[cosmic raptor]

i c

[frigid wedge]

can be used with sublime

[cosmic raptor]

seems like a decent option for kboc?

[frigid wedge]

sure ig

do you need the damage tho?

[cosmic raptor]

maybe it helps with bosses

xd

[frigid wedge]

or is it for the slow

[cosmic raptor]

i one shot everything in breach 99% of the time

so idk

[frigid wedge]

spider web is a pretty massive slow tbf

[cosmic raptor]

good vs those breach bosses

i think

[elder marlin]

whats the best specter for minion pact?

[cobalt blade]

P sure sublime kboc setups ran spider but non sublime didnt have space

[spice pecan]

unholy aberration

the scorpion from a9/carcass boss

far and away the best spectre for minion pact

assuming youre playing bv

[cobalt blade]

(if playing snapshot skill like bv^) otherwise marionettes if not

[cosmic raptor]

which sublime?

[elder marlin]

yes

[cobalt blade]

Pof non lightning stack ones

just going pure tank

[frigid wedge]

in all fareness if ur not reserving petrified blood, theres not much that u gotta reserve, its literally like, arctic armour, ur purity, and flesh and stone

[spice pecan]

yeah, open carcass map, drop boss to half hp, kill a scorpion and immediately spam raise spectre on it

it has 2x the life of a perfect meatsack

[cobalt blade]

ye stone is aura and thats the reserve that gets replaced lol

[cosmic raptor]

i c

[cobalt blade]

(has aura tag doesnt scale with aura effect because fuck u)

[frigid wedge]

flesh and stone works with sublime

[elder marlin]

does it get resummon if i sacrifice it to minion pact

[cobalt blade]

it does not

Blood and sand does

[frigid wedge]

it doesnt disable auras

[cobalt blade]

Flesh and stone does not

[spice pecan]

no, it gets resummoned if you enter a new area

[frigid wedge]

it prevents u being affected by them, does FaS just reduce mob damage

[opaque sphinx]

like i said i don't think ive had 1 contain with no tinks

[cobalt blade]

eri it does disable aura skills

i literally play sublime builds D:

[frigid wedge]

oh

[spice pecan]

if you sacrifice it to minion pact then you just have to keep bv going, if you drop bv then leave and reenter area, enter/exit mirage works for this

[frigid wedge]

sad

[spice pecan]

the only way you can actually lose the spectre is if you press bv in hideout or if you remove your spec gem

[frigid wedge]

see this is why i shouldn't be green

misinformation

[trail thunder]

And all it took was to get an actual league-starter viable scion ascendancy

[cobalt blade]

technically you can provide misinformation helpfully >:3

[vivid pumice]

3 more to go

[opaque sphinx]

you know i bet there's actually some madman out there identifying every jewel from these opal boxes just like chris intended

[split palm]

the fuck do I want on my bodyarmour

[cobalt blade]

i id cb ones lol

and mouse over uniques for good ones

[split palm]

Like I need T1 spell suppress

[opaque sphinx]

are there even good ones

i stopped looking

[split palm]

since I run ire

but what else xd

[cobalt blade]

it can drop regular jewels still

you can drop a corrupted unnatural or w/e

[opaque sphinx]

oh i see

[split palm]

I check them at least

[cobalt blade]

maybe even a random cb unnatural although i think neversink has a tink for that

[split palm]

like hover over

the spook is real

[cosmic raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-tink-tink-poor-baby-poor-thing-sad-gif-3311541817028658793

[cobalt blade]

also rain of splinters max roll is still good afaik

but only max roll

[split palm]

and if filter shows them as possibly pricey on id'd boxes I check twice

[vivid pumice]

isnt it just generic chaos res and sort

eva es

[toxic zephyr]

guys im back with another question

[split palm]

If I get fire res, spell supp, and chaos res

I can cap res before HH

[toxic zephyr]

how are people get implicit and syn on a wand?

[opaque sphinx]

valid

bruh i wanna take divine flesh on every build now

[cobalt blade]

stuff ur very far from making but those 3 are all synth

[rocky glade]

This is the funniest build vid I have ever seen for PoE

[cobalt blade]

multiple thousands of divines to make basically

[opaque sphinx]

ice nova boxes in these maps used to one shot me

[toxic zephyr]

its all syn?!?!?

[rocky glade]

Bro literally just draw on top of the vid

[cobalt blade]

yes

[opaque sphinx]

now they do like half life if that

[rocky glade]

Its so funny

[frigid wedge]

just from the drawing i could tell it was some bullshit w shield crush

[rocky glade]

It is some bullshit with Shield Crush

[cosmic raptor]

Cant even run aspect of the spider i think, it eats 1,1k of my mana

[toxic zephyr]

why craft like that if it doesnt yield same value or profit back?

[cobalt blade]

that do be shield crush overlap

[opaque sphinx]

it does

[rough tulip]

Im trying to make da funny minion pact BV thing work in a "budget" (mb + a few divines basically) and i cant seem to not make it suck completely

[toxic zephyr]

so that guys is just garbage?

[cobalt blade]

you craft it for people to mirror and then i think that wand has a 100d mirror fee or so

so now if 10 people mirror it they made 1000 div

and apply that to maybe 100-200 people mirroring it

[opaque sphinx]

people spend 15 mirrors to make a mirror item
then they charge yo 1 mirror +100-300d to copy it
once itscopied 30 times they make their money back
once its coped 100 times they made 30 mirrors off it

[split palm]

ugh, don't like cold res

[spice pecan]

elegant hubris with at least two 80% minion life notables, companionship support, +levels to raise spectre

[opaque sphinx]

i need to be up for work in 5.5 hours ....

[rough tulip]

yeah, thats where the budget issue comes in

[opaque sphinx]

just one more map

[rough tulip]

i have the barebones setup, but no companionship, no decent hubris

[toxic zephyr]

do people not buy cord belts?

[spice pecan]

you can get alright timeless jewels for a couple divs, +levels to spectre isn't hard, you can use something like +1 all spells sceptre + a mirrored +2 rare amulet

[cobalt blade]

weapon swap bow setup even w/o eclipse can be made p budget no?

[spice pecan]

i used a +1 all spells oscillating sceptre for EO

[split palm]

FUCK I ROLLED OVER

[spice pecan]

and a +2 spells shitty mirrored ammy

[opaque sphinx]

rekt

[cosmic raptor]

pepega

[cobalt blade]

Just a +2 support +1 socketed link empower to spectre

[spice pecan]

yeah, empower 3 helps a lot too

[cobalt blade]

(weapon swap bv and snapshot the minion life basically swap back)

[opaque sphinx]

im running boxes till i drop a hinekora

[spice pecan]

no we aren't doing weapon swap snapshotting

you can already get infinite damage without it lol

[cobalt blade]

Id say its worth on budget setup

lol

[spice pecan]

i mean maybe

[cobalt blade]

Where ur prob struggling to get gem lvls

[spice pecan]

but a real timeless jewel and some +level gear is like not that expensive

and making those bows is expensive

[cobalt blade]

^

This is just craft +2 on a random bow off trade

Or alt +1

[spice pecan]

+2 support is just for companionship right

[rough tulip]

https://pobb.in/-UQ7Be-Y9qyp like this is what i have rn trying to recover my CWS chief

[cobalt blade]

Like i don't mean the whole fossil setup

[cobalt blade]

Empower

[vivid pumice]

if i run delirium orb does the difficulty scale up for the entire map or no?

[spice pecan]

i see

[cobalt blade]

and companionship ye

[spice pecan]

yeah they dont have companionship

they have mageblood and a few divs

[hoary totem]

how can i screenshot an item while holding alt?

[cobalt blade]

Ay i think empower would get boosted to extra spectre lvl tho

[spice pecan]

i personally change my display advanced item info to something else

and then take the screenshot and change it back to alt

kind of annoying but w/e

[hoary totem]

ahh good idea xD

[cobalt blade]

print screen if windows

[spice pecan]

printscr works too

or whatever your steam screenshot hotkey is

[rough tulip]

i can see how the build works, but i need to try to reach a point where i can use it to farm stuff decently

at least to afford the other pieces

[cobalt blade]

Alt print screen puts ur whole application onto clipboard if windows so it kinda just works

[spice pecan]

but if you want to use the snipping tool to crop then yeah thats what i do

[cobalt blade]

Paste into paint if u wanna edit it down

u can also set snipping tool to take a screenshot after x seconds iirc

[opaque sphinx]

FUCK

[cobalt blade]

but i dont remember how since not on windows

[opaque sphinx]

HOW

what damage does explode on box do

phys or fire

[hoary totem]

ahh alt + f1 is the geforce overlay screenshot, works well

[cosmic raptor]

HES BACK

[vivid pumice]

think fire'

but whatever anyways run away from the box when you click

[cobalt blade]

i think its Phys but not actually sure now that i think about it

Just thinking on dmg its dealt to 90 max res ES chars

[opaque sphinx]

man i dont wanna thats why i built 5000 defenses

[cobalt blade]

and i think its more than a fire hit should do

[split palm]

:>

[opaque sphinx]

do map mods apply to boxes?

like gain phys as light etc

[cobalt blade]

yes

[opaque sphinx]

fuck so it prob is like pure phys then

[hoary totem]

just started trying to craft my first item yesterday, managed to make this today. What doe you think its worth?

[opaque sphinx]

i can tank ice nova on this map but not explode

[frigid wedge]

this mod feels so disappointing

[split palm]

T1 %

mana

...

[cobalt blade]

need juicer maps

[vivid pumice]

how much did it cost

[fickle glen]

Hi, if I get 100% faster start of energy shield recharge will it make it instantly recharge after taking damage?

[cobalt blade]

no

It will make it start twice as fast

[frigid wedge]

naca last league i set my recent kills to 5000 and my dps changed by like 400k and my explosions barely changed

[cobalt blade]

D:

[frigid wedge]

i don't see the value of the mod

its so negligible

[cobalt blade]

tha just means you had some other good source of flat i guess

[fickle glen]

How much would I need to make it instantly recharge after?

[cobalt blade]

charlatan builds love it sincethey have fuck all flat

[cobalt blade]

literally infinite

[frigid wedge]

heralds dont give that much

[fickle glen]

Oh it’s that kind of math

[cobalt blade]

yes

[frigid wedge]

my explode had 1700% mob life % tho at the time when i was testing those numbers

[split palm]

flat, trust...

[vivid pumice]

glorpslam

[cobalt blade]

surely u foulborn right :3

gotta waste currency

[full citrus]

anyone familiar with valdo's mods? how cooked is this?

[fickle glen]

Energy leech it is then

[split palm]

NO WAY

N_O WAY

NO WAY

[vivid pumice]

never punished omgbruh

[split palm]

I spent less than 3d rolling double T1

[vivid pumice]

grats

[toxic zephyr]

whats the point of the reflective mist?

[split palm]

350d

the fuck

the fuck

the fuck

[vivid pumice]

path of gambling......

[split palm]

never stop gambling

[cobalt blade]

a good void build can run it but its 1 portal void instability

very easy to fuck up and die

[split palm]

that T2 chaos will forever haunt me....

[toxic zephyr]

ahhh

[cobalt blade]

instability does 500 phys dam per stack capped at 500 stacks

[split palm]

never stop gambling

https://tenor.com/view/digging-for-diamonds-never-give-up-gamble-gambling-keep-gambling-gif-15498081004227486559

NEVER

STOP

[bright viper]

What's the average kills per second

[split palm]

sacred orb time

[cobalt blade]

wait you did have shock toggled right no shot you only got 400 k dmg from 5000-25000 flat added lightning

[split palm]

hahahah

never stop gambling

[opaque sphinx]

neat

[cobalt blade]

3% more to gamble on

[toxic zephyr]

also, how are people duping their currency?

[split palm]

I love simply winning

[cobalt blade]

they arent

[split palm]

what

[spice pecan]

cheat engine

[frigid wedge]

yes

[split palm]

I mean you had a prime example of how to turn 75d into 300d+

I literally spent under 5d crafting

[toxic zephyr]

i heard something someone said about trialmaster or something but i never figured out how the dude double his div

[split palm]

and 71d on the base (albeit that was diabolically underpriced)

[toxic zephyr]

THAT

[cobalt blade]

Oh thats inscribed ultimatums and your not rly doubling your div because the inscribes themself are worth 6-7div

[toxic zephyr]

thank you

[bright viper]

That ends up being priced very close to 8x the currency tho

Its not a money hack

[cobalt blade]

and you can very easily fuck up and lose if bad mods

[cobalt blade]

ruin 3

[safe perch]

Currency vs pack chisel for breach? :3

[bright viper]

Ok naca types faster than me but we agree 🤝

[cobalt blade]

:3

[toxic zephyr]

is there a limit on how much i can sacrifice?

[opaque sphinx]

if u make a reallly reallly good build that doesnt need block then u can get them for 3-4d 😄

[vivid pumice]

what

[rocky glade]

Runegraft of the Sinistral is so funny man
The only purpose it got is for shield builds

[opaque sphinx]

nah i use it on dual claws

[cobalt blade]

you have to sacrifice the amount on the ulti

[rocky glade]

And the one guy who plays Dual Strike of Ambidexterity

[cobalt blade]

it says 8 you have to put in 8 no more no less

[toxic zephyr]

thanks a bunch fellas

[livid quarry]

wow lucky 4 t1

[cobalt blade]

ambi is good

[spice pecan]

ambi is really fun

[cobalt blade]

actually quite high play rate most leagues

compared to a majority of skills

[rocky glade]

Yeah but I find its playstyle a bit odd

[spice pecan]

how

[stray sedge]

is this purely delirium or with something else

[rocky glade]

Like I need a super fast offhand

[spice pecan]

you sit there and attack 20 times a second

[cobalt blade]

its just full screen strike skills :3

[vivid pumice]

white map full delirium

[opaque sphinx]

not even playing ambi just dual claws

[split palm]

I fucking can't xd

literally lolslammed 2 T1 with exalts

because chaos gave no prefixes

[cobalt blade]

yes it only tries to chaos to 4 mods

[split palm]

just fucking slam it

[vivid pumice]

never punished

[cobalt blade]

with rng chance for 5/6

is how chaos works in general

[split palm]

I mean the fact that I just B2B slam 2 T1s

[safe perch]

Currency vs pack chisel for breach? :3

[cobalt blade]

ye thats nuts for how fast you hit it

v gg

[split palm]

0.8 and 0.8

[cobalt blade]

we cant answer this since it rly depends on your budget on the maps+the actual rolls on them

currency is usually better though

[split palm]

0.00679% slam

[safe perch]

Tyty

[opaque sphinx]

okok 5 hours to get up for work i sleep now gn gl nerds

if u drop a mirror u owe me 10% cuz i said gl

no take backs

[grizzled lily]

[cobalt blade]

is that even worth it

[grizzled lily]

yea i think so

i can do that

[opaque sphinx]

no block mod free money

[cobalt blade]

i more mean in value hasnt unnatural crashed a shit ton

[split palm]

isn't it beautiful

[cobalt blade]

admittedly idk covenant price

[opaque sphinx]

still 300c

[split palm]

I ifnally fixed all my resists

[opaque sphinx]

cov is like 2c

[cobalt blade]

its more than 2 i know for sure

[opaque sphinx]

4

[split palm]

and even got reflect immune

[cobalt blade]

thats corrupted D:

Actually can you sac corrupted

[opaque sphinx]

pretty sure u can use corrupted ones as sacrifice no?

[cobalt blade]

I dont actually know

[vivid pumice]

coach should i buy this?

[cobalt blade]

Never cared to try

[split palm]

craft one yourself

cheaper

way cheaper

[vivid pumice]

wtf?

[opaque sphinx]

ngl me either but i assume u can cuz ur not using any currency on it

and his whole thing is corrupting shit

[split maple]

No abyssal socket vendor

[vivid pumice]

wtf

im not prioritizing abyssal socket so im buying this butttttttttt

is crafting better

[split palm]

also where abyssal socket

[split maple]

For yours it's just frac temple mod roll essences a tad, matron life

[cobalt blade]

Honestly its conflicted to exquisite its considerable if you want to save sanity

[split palm]

socket is important

very

[vivid pumice]

gort

[split palm]

it's insane

[vivid pumice]

i see

[split maple]

For abyssal socket it's a rly simple fossiling

[cobalt blade]

but it is still cheaper to craft and socket is big ye

[split palm]

like all you need on glove is

frac temple mod

[split maple]

Like temple mod + socketed gems have speed + socket is just classy

[cobalt blade]

cant get temple mod and socket though

[split palm]

abyssal socket

[cobalt blade]

With frac socket

[split maple]

Just frac temple

[split palm]

phys to convert

and crafted proj speed

[cobalt blade]

Ye

[sturdy nova]

yo i found a magic flask with fractured reduced curse effect, is this like normal

[cobalt blade]

just noting that they have go that route

[split palm]

like this is a 20% inc amd a 16& inc for LA

[cobalt blade]

that's also essence atk speed looking at it closer

[vivid pumice]

so i buy something like this and start working on it?

[split maple]

No

[grizzled lily]

cortisol so low while doing ultimatum :D

[vivid pumice]

is it gonna be painful

[split palm]

frac yourself

[split maple]

This is brick coz dude didn't divine temple mod proper

[vivid pumice]

huh what

[split palm]

you can divine it with harvest

[split maple]

Like you can harvest swap to divine it to perfect

[cobalt blade]

essence atk speed t1 suppress veiled convert elevated convert

[split maple]

Its cheap

[cobalt blade]

I would look into flipping that if i was online

[split palm]

I wanted to upgrade my gloves

and fucked up lost the 50% mod

[vivid pumice]

oh you can do this i see

fuack

but still the bases are expensive

[split palm]

yeah cold to ltn res

buy

the

fire

or ltn bases

[noble sleet]

what does light radius actually do in this game?...

[split palm]

it's much cheaper

[cobalt blade]

Ye and you have to do it before the frac

[split palm]

especially on the correct base

[vivid pumice]

and i fracture myself?

[spice pecan]

increases how far you can see, makes the screen brighter when you're at low life

[cobalt blade]

makes you see better in dark maps

[vivid pumice]

okay i fracture myself

[spice pecan]

light radius only really matters when you're playing very low life builds like ivory tower tbh

[cobalt blade]

incorrect

It makes sense for valdo running to :D

[spice pecan]

oh yeah, true

[noble sleet]

okay well uhh this is probably the fastest campaign speed I've ever had lmao

[cobalt blade]

its a very legit ring reflect lmao

[frigid wedge]

slow

[cobalt blade]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Eclipse_Solaris

Also good with tha wand

[grizzled lily]

boom

[noble sleet]

nice

[split maple]

Doesn't matter as Long as donor and target are not str+int

Coz if it's isolated suffix it's guaranteed transfers then

[frigid wedge]

someone actually pointed out to me yesterday that my build is probably like, the ideal campaign carry build and i cant unsee it

bc i helped him with last 2 acts in like 20 min

and tshot was already ideal

and now its tshot but faster

[cosmic raptor]

i just want to be like this guy

[vivid pumice]

unfractured base with temple mod is 2 div

help help

[frigid wedge]

go farm it

[split palm]

delusional

[split palm]

transfer yourself in that case

[vivid pumice]

the humble very strict loot filter

[split maple]

Buy temple with apex and full rank fire room, you Will get multiple

[split palm]

filter will show them btw

[cobalt blade]

(for context since i assume haru wont know dex always rolls on gloves str/int base allows those to roll and you use recombs with non native natural mods to move the mod around)

[vivid pumice]

oh

[cobalt blade]

so str/int stops u moving it

[split palm]

Pretty sure it is a uhhh

old exalt tier

A-Tier

drop sound

[cobalt blade]

they drop identified

so theyll just show on filter

when your running temples

[frigid wedge]

they drop in specific places from specific mobs

[vivid pumice]

never done temple before

[frigid wedge]

iirc theres also a temple room that shits out like 5 of them

[split maple]

Yea fire room boss (well chest behind him) and apex boss assuming fire room in temple will drop

[cosmic raptor]

im gonna ask him if he want to be my sugar daddy

[split maple]

Just fully upgrade fire room

Or well buy temple with them two

[frigid wedge]

haru are u looking for them on a specific base

u can recomb it over

from a cheap base

shouldn't cost much

[livid quarry]

fail the frac recomb again

[frigid wedge]

i wonder how effectively i could farm temples actually

[livid quarry]

sell those act runs in tft

[frigid wedge]

temple doesn't care about map tier either does it

[livid quarry]

70d

[frigid wedge]

me?

[vivid pumice]

Do i need ilevel 86 for this?

[livid quarry]

yea

[split palm]

make sure this is active

[frigid wedge]

banned in tft

which is why its upsetting

[ebon hatch]

good lord I cannot freaking believe GGG removed glorious HARBINGER but kept beyond in the game in its current state... 50+ atlas points give you ABSOLUTELY nothing... what the heck is that GGG

[frigid wedge]

bc i could be making 40d an hour paying 0 attention

but im tft banned

[split maple]

Beyond is goated and good

Wdym

[spice pecan]

it's not old beyond

so its trash

[split palm]

automatically active on uber strict

[livid quarry]

garbringer

[ebon hatch]

boss spewned - kill the boss - the end (no loot obv)

[cobalt blade]

based

[vivid pumice]

this is ilvl 81+?

[spice pecan]

what i want to know is why the fuck did they delete harby but kept fucking ghosts in the game

[vivid pumice]

🐴

[cosmic raptor]

press alt

[frigid wedge]

but ye i think the pacing of my build is in such a way that i would need to bring kf warp twink gear for the whole partyy

[vivid pumice]

its on pob

[frigid wedge]

or like

a haste aurabot

[split maple]

For this you only need enough ilvl for t1 life

[frigid wedge]

bc build is too fast

[vivid pumice]

ty

[frigid wedge]

until no mana...

[split maple]

But why attack speed there

Go for essence socketed attack/cast speed

[ebon hatch]

im so upset, harbi was my go to mechanic since crucible, hope they bring it back next league

[split maple]

And slap in movement skill

[cosmic raptor]

my bed

[split palm]

how expensive is that xd

[frigid wedge]

o god i need to make a real quiver with actual suffixes

[livid quarry]

tried hive?

cheap scarabs

and slow too

[spice pecan]

GGG needs to answer for this

[ebon hatch]

i tried but my flicker cant aim properly

[cobalt blade]

why would you go for socketed on a bow build

[ebon hatch]

so i lose

[split palm]

WAIT I A MDUMB

AAAAAAAA

[cobalt blade]

you very much want it on your main skill

[livid quarry]

mayb u can farm essence with hh

[split palm]

I need to fucking nuke this doghshit

[ebon hatch]

oh yes gonna try essence now

[cobalt blade]

19 dex

[split palm]

was a 200c steal xd back on leaguestart

[frigid wedge]

flicker doesnt aim

[frigid wedge]

wtf are those

[split palm]

I can just craft conversion

[ebon hatch]

i know, that is the problem, cant save the girl in the breach hive