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untold lotus
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mercs was so good

prime needle
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in phrecia 1

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so that was right side ig

hard cliff
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Phrecia kinda cheating tho

prime needle
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yeah

untold lotus
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ye doesnt count

icy swan
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yeah i see some str i gues, becasue hp, but none CI. is it like same ish ?

hard cliff
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Kouf can you give me any gear suggestions for my next upgrade ?

untold lotus
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i havent played deadeye since they took away the tornado shot quality thing

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extra proj thing

prime needle
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have a POB/budget?

hard cliff
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Like just tell me what sucks the most

opaque sphinx
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why frac when can settleshop on the essence

spice pecan
hard cliff
spice pecan
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and all of those probably take CI

finite quail
prime needle
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and comfortable crafting? the nice thing with bleed slams is you can craft almost everything

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FYI I was also playing sunder

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bc GS of earthshaking feels awful to me

finite quail
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now prefix cant be changed reforge BIG life

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Or I KILL someone

acoustic crystal
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anybody else having 10year loading time going in and out of mirage >.< this is annoying

hard cliff
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I enjoy the aoe but I can see why the width stuff could be really annoying lol

untold lotus
finite quail
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I meant suffix

untold lotus
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no wonder u took so many hits

hard cliff
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I wish I had vaal for giga aoe but I'd rather get an imbue tbh

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and somehow meme'ed myself into using the entire chest up lol

finite quail
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bruh...

prime needle
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even that didn't feel giga aoe

warped sonnet
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i miss the old ground slam jewel that made the angle huge

prime needle
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and because you can't 8 link your vaal GS

finite quail
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its DEAD

prime needle
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the damage isn't high enough in juiced content

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to actually do anything

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I was playing around with an autoexertion setup in my body 6l instead

hard cliff
prime needle
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copying ben's setup instead with ancestral cry and seismic on autoexertion

hard cliff
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Neat

prime needle
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then running warbanner for ubers

worldly bridge
onyx adder
prime needle
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i am

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this was what i did before i stopped

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i'm selling my build over the next 2-3 days then gonna run campaign this weekend

split pagoda
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i hope you atleast ran overexertion and went for cluster setup if u did that because otherwise its just a waste

hard cliff
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Banner Pogott

onyx adder
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Ok good i was thinking u would be back in 2 weeks going hey i put 500 more divs into bleed slam and gained 7% dps what gives

split pagoda
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ben went multiple autoexerts mainly to get frenzy+onslaught uptime on bosses

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from warcry medium

hard cliff
prime needle
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i didn't care as much about the exertion as i did the stats from seismic and ancestral

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to hit res cap and increase the armour

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warbanner was for boss dps

leaden gust
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running svalinn, facetanking varuun and never dying in uber juiced breaches. Do some normal maps with harvest? die 247 to random explosions

split pagoda
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what stats? you said you put them on autoexertion

prime needle
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+max res and +armour

strong totem
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first altar of a super juice map.. marauderthinking gg

prime needle
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did i read that wrong

split pagoda
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yeah you dont get the max res if you have ancestral cry on autoexertion

prime needle
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when i opened char screen in maps i was capped res and significantly higher armour

warped sonnet
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im doing 4 manual warcries, feels like i could just start playing piano

prime needle
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i totally read it wrong then lmao

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i refuse to hit more than 1 warcry

hard cliff
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oh man

warped sonnet
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it is not that bad when you get the muscle memory running

onyx adder
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Running out of buttons sucks

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Its the big reason i hate playing multiple manual warcries

finite quail
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Time to hit the BIG reforge LIFE

warped sonnet
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yeah, planning to have blood rage and berserk on automation

split pagoda
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and yeah same for armour from seismic cry. you dont get it with autoexert

finite quail
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The BIIIIIG LIFEEEEEEEEEE

split pagoda
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but seismic is still goot to auto for aoe

worldly bridge
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T4

split pagoda
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on bleed slams

finite quail
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I?LL TAKE IT

prime needle
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you can craft the med cluster jewels for cheap as fuck

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dot multi on rings isn't worth losing the res slot

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IME

warped sonnet
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yeah try to get more chaos res and life

spice pecan
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holy, someone posted grav copypasta in global

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this is the best day ever

hard cliff
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What on the tree is bad ?

prime needle
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you have wasted masteries and you're taking extra nodes that are mostly early leveling nodes

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protection mastery, 2h mastery, art of the gladiator

finite quail
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ok guys, time to slam the ringy

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154 evasion

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cut my balls into pieces

prime needle
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what's your chance to bleed

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also you have a malevolence small cluster for some reason?

onyx adder
hard cliff
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105%

prime needle
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you're running crafted life on chest

finite quail
prime needle
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but you're taking the mastery for 15% inc life with no life modifiers on chest

finite quail
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only other usable mod was t1 flat or wed

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lol

onyx adder
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If u recrafted for t1 life u woulda slammed t1 edwa

pseudo axle
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what's the frozen boot mod?

onyx adder
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Happens every time

finite quail
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Now I just need 4 div for this

hard cliff
pseudo axle
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having trouble finding it

pseudo axle
warped sonnet
finite quail
prime needle
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oh was looking at the helmet lmao and was very confused

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regardless

hard cliff
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Me too UHM

prime needle
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you need a t1 life roll there

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instead of crafted life

pseudo axle
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oh its literally just 100% chance to avoid being frozen zz

prime needle
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you're gonna have a better time dropping some auras

subtle imp
warped sonnet
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yeah your inc % life from tree is okay but you need a lot more flat life from gear

subtle imp
finite quail
subtle imp
finite quail
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cause thats all I got rn homie

subtle imp
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Cost me like 20d to make

finite quail
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also I dont want it

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I need res on my rings

prime needle
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you're right at the point where you should be looking at cluster swapping

subtle imp
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:(

halcyon prawn
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is the game down? trade site says servers are restarting, but there was no in-game announcement/countdown like there usually is

split pagoda
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not sure how ur getting endurance charges tbh

subtle imp
prime needle
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yeah didn't even look

hard cliff
finite quail
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someone buy my shit I need 4 divs ffs

prime needle
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also would swap off the unique boots

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and get life/res/MS

sturdy nimbus
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Servers down???

prime needle
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you're giving up a ton of survivability for a meh dmg increase

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that's highly conditional

hard cliff
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You don't think boots are worth ?

warped sonnet
prime needle
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you have 0 defensive stats on your boots

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and you're not making up for it anywhere else in your build

hard cliff
prime needle
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like you're trying to put your whole defense on that didn't happen

split pagoda
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yeah thats far from a reliable source

warped sonnet
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boots are fine for bleed but you are missing a lot of life on the other gear

halcyon prawn
split pagoda
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definitely running around with no charges alot of times

hard cliff
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Texas in game is up

warped sonnet
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you can like double the amount of life you get from your gear

prime needle
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but then he's using suffix slots on his other items to not fill his res

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-9 chaos res in red maps means you're just gonna get one shot every time you get into a mob

warped sonnet
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i would first drop damage to get your defenses up and then go from that

hard cliff
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I'm at 8% but you right

prime needle
brazen lake
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oh god

prime needle
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with that didn't happen loaded in custom config

brazen lake
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primordial blocks my beloved

hard cliff
hard cliff
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what the heck

prime needle
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your phys is okayish, your ele is kinda low, your chaos is pitiful

hard cliff
prime needle
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your chaos should be higher than your phys max hit

crisp obsidian
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@onyx adder if you started fresh ssf right now what would you play

prime needle
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what's your imbue on GS?

spice pecan
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please say tornado shot or armor stacker

hard cliff
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yeah I couldn't find room for chaos when getting the chest and gloves

crisp obsidian
hard cliff
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The gloves are so sketch

onyx adder
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Uh dont ask me that question my response is driven entirely by what i havent played recently

hard cliff
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I just needed so much res

eager herald
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Wrong the answer is slams

crisp obsidian
warped sonnet
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slam is love slam is life

split pagoda
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ur gear should pretty much just be big stick, ryslatha, high life/res gear everywhere else

prime needle
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you really don't have a lot of space for uniques in bleed slams typically

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yeah

split pagoda
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if u do that its not hard to fit in the res

prime needle
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you can also supplement with large/medium cluster swaps

onyx adder
hexed egret
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Looking for recomb experts

hard cliff
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How am I supposed to hit dot cap from here tho

The big left side cluster ?

prime needle
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let me see what clusters i still have before they sell

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i can give you some

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you're not remotely close to DOT cap as it is

crisp obsidian
prime needle
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and your axe DPS is too low for it rn

hard cliff
split pagoda
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its rough to hit dot cap on schizo bleed slammer, if ur trying to balance dps/defense

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on non-schizo its not that hard

warped sonnet
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piragon my build plan has the same % inc life from tree and ill be getting over 5k life, you can get so much more out of your gear

prime needle
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it's appropriate for the cost of your build

onyx adder
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I actually started intending to play it, but rolled off it day 2 because i didnt wanna play another dot ele

proud gorge
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ayyy, Act 2 Triggerbots obtained

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also kind of weird that triggerbots don't actually copy a triggered Arc unless there's enemies nearby

crisp obsidian
hard cliff
hexed egret
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Wtd do you happen to know why most BV players stacking heralds explodey without bino aren't using Archdemon crowns

prime needle
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i still have all but 1 of the clusters

hexed egret
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I looked last league and that was the most popular setup

prime needle
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if you want them

hard cliff
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Sure how much ?

prime needle
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the large cluster is running wound aggravation tho instead of feed the fury

hexed egret
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Did something change

charred condor
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Guys is the aul fight hard

prime needle
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and martial prowess is at the back

onyx adder
charred condor
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Cus I need it for my final ascendancy

spice pecan
charred condor
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Also how much is a taxi right now?

proud gorge
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but yeah, I do find it funny that the nature of FFs means that its possible to get an ascendancy notable before you've even reached Act 3

prime needle
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the extra nodes on the small/medium are a little bit of attributes and a little bit of res

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@hard cliff

leaden gust
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what kinda shipments are people sending now thats good?

hard cliff
strong totem
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not as many as i had hoped..

hard cliff
charred condor
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How much is a aul taxi right now

prime needle
proud gorge
halcyon timber
hard cliff
proud gorge
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since you have to unlock the Labyrinth by walking through the statue in Sarn

hard cliff
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xXCherryBomberXx

strong totem
proud gorge
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on each character, that is

halcyon timber
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Breach strat is absolute dogshit

prime needle
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think allin crafting cost was like 3div for all of them

hard cliff
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What do I change on the skill tree to fit these or should I just start saving for some five ways to get to like 97 or so ?

prime needle
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you don't need to fit all at once

strong totem
prime needle
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but pride > malevolence

halcyon timber
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shit i dont even see raw divs from breaches xD

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if i was running breach whole league i would still be rocking some starter 3d build

hard cliff
prime needle
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what are you running bladestorm for

hard cliff
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I don't like how static strike feels

devout shoal
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does quant affect essences?

prime needle
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oh you're using it to force aggravation

hard cliff
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Yes

devout shoal
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or do i run white t7s

gritty garnet
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static strike doesn't need to feel like anything it's a vehicle for shockwave

hard cliff
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Y'all are running shockwave static strike bleed aggravate ?

opaque sphinx
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18th try

prime needle
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ig i didn't have any trouble aggravating running the glove implicit w/ vulnerability and the bleed mastery

opaque sphinx
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and its the fkin ess mod

prime needle
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for exerted attacks

gritty garnet
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not on bleed builds but you can also link it alongside some random buff like warcry/guard skill/banner imbued with more duration support

prime needle
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like you just aggravate pretty much instantly

hard cliff
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I wanna make a bladestorm build sometime just go full hog crank

hexed egret
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How you gonna essence spam

prime needle
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your attribute costs are too high so you're having to focus a lot of gear into that

opaque sphinx
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thats not the fuckin one i was aiming for

hexed egret
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You want to fracture the life or es%

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Oh shit

prime needle
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instead of res

hard cliff
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Malevoance doing that UHM bla

opaque sphinx
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im honestly so close to just settling and greed spamming

prime needle
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your paua ring gives you exactly 2 usable mods

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sorry 3, but one of the is a low roll and low tier life

hexed egret
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I don't understand how you could miss the fracture so many times

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It's always 4 affixes right

opaque sphinx
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yeah

hexed egret
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That's so bad luck

hard cliff
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I don't have enough mana to use my power if I don't have the ring

prime needle
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your other ring life is fine, but you have 2 dead mods there too

opaque sphinx
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thats my luck this league dude i swear im cursed

prime needle
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yes because you're running malevolence

hexed egret
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And your gloves aren't even that special

opaque sphinx
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poofed 2 apo, poofed 2 unrequited, missed my last 23 recombos

hexed egret
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Like triple T1 es and life

opaque sphinx
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and then 18 fracs in a row

hexed egret
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Jesus

prime needle
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did you ever say what your imbue is on gs?

hexed egret
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I lost my elevated explode

prime needle
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because it's only a 6L in pob

opaque sphinx
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its still a 1/3

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they were basic 2p+2p

hard cliff
hexed egret
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It's like 10%

prime needle
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gotcha

hexed egret
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Oh so it's 30

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Well

hard cliff
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ohhh shit I can add a bunch more pob dps by listing that

I keep forgetting it's not supported right now

prime needle
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so your dps comes to 19mil or so with tincture on

hard cliff
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Holy shit

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I have a free red slot should I add war banner ?

prime needle
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which is fine but very overkill given how much tankiness you're missing

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nah

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lol

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dropping malevolence gets you down to 16mil which is more than enough for everything in the game if you can live

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where are you getting endurance charges from?

hard cliff
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Getting hit in the face

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Inexorable

prime needle
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gotcha

hard cliff
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and frenzy from bloodrage

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If you wanna tell me their is a better way to get those I'm all for it

prime needle
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you can drop a bleed wheel for 5 points, drop 2 points on the right side, drop a point on your bleed wheel on the left side, drop a point on the protection mastery(roll flask for corrupted blood cannot be inflicted)

hexed egret
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I wish it was a 2 pointer

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It doesn't deserve the 3 pointer fate

livid quarry
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how do str stacker juggs get 15 wither stacks

prime needle
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I'd rather take the 4 points for the endurance charge on kill node on the bottom of the tree

hexed egret
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You can get it from a small cluster for 2 points

livid quarry
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withering step is 8

hexed egret
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Like makes no sense

prime needle
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which also gives you dmg per endurance charge

hexed egret
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Inexorable is superior qol

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People spend 2 points to get it on small cluster

strong yew
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god can the bandits calm down on the spawn rate? 3-4 times a day i have to go rescue them

prime needle
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switch some of your +phys dmg tattoos to bleed chance to drop your bleed wheels

hard cliff
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I am so low on str cause of this chest piece

prime needle
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you also don't need both armour wheels

hard cliff
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I just scoured off chance to bleed tho I was overcapped

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Running Juggernaut for the max life tbh

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or do you mean I don't need one of the masteries

hard cliff
prime needle
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you're running extra points just to get inc armour from boots and gloves

mystic socket
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this took many many divs of reforge defense to hit

prime needle
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4 wasted points that could be on clusters

mystic socket
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do i reforge more likely anyway

prime needle
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those small life clusters are solid

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that's a nice small cluster

hexed egret
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Does anyone know why archdemon helm with BV has fallen out of fashion this league

hard cliff
mystic socket
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i have a better one i crafted for like 2 div earlier

prime needle
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if you're gonna stick with inexorable you'd drop the other, but you get life from the other

mystic socket
hard cliff
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ohhh yeah you get 8% life on the smalls

prime needle
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i just like the small nodes and the inc dmg/end charge on the bottom wheel better

hard cliff
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you are right

prime needle
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but it's nbd

hard cliff
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I can see your argument

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I need like 12 points for this cluster setup tho

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Do I need more levels ?

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I mean everyone does but yeah

prime needle
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you don't need the full cluster setup now

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i was lvl 100 running those lol

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which is a med cluster + small cluster diff from where you are

hard cliff
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I still get 25% armor from the end charge cluster if I drop inexorable

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and that's always up not the 50% stationary

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which is way better I think

warped sonnet
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eyyyy it finally sold

prime needle
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i think you're too caught up on a high armour number

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when that doesn't matter if you're geetting 1 shot by chaos

hard cliff
hard cliff
spice kernel
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demn, was a profitable day
yes, for me its big money

prime needle
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oh you're already substantially overshooting your attribute reqs anyways

warped sonnet
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also about your armour, i would get % increased armour on one of your flasks

prime needle
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tbh you can swap your life flask for it

uneven compass
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Just dropped a 16d map yay

prime needle
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if you aren't falling over

hard cliff
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My life flask is my corrupted blood immunity

onyx adder
prime needle
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he is t16 red maps

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presumably running breach

onyx adder
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Im fine recommending ppl run around with 0 chaos res until they start doing much tougher content than that

hard cliff
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I'm running strongboxes

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and destructive play

onyx adder
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His bigger problem is he's gonna die to everything else

prime needle
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oh gotcha

onyx adder
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With those numbers

prime needle
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btw your flasks

hard cliff
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are awful ???

open breach
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is crushing fist good for challenges? I want the mtx, i got like 12 divines

prime needle
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your implicits need some work

open breach
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got a duelist character doing flicker, but die a lot, want to just do challenges for the first time'

onyx adder
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Just skip phys as chaos mod, rituals, and usually also poison mod until u get some chaos res

prime needle
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you're running reduced effect and ign immunity on one, reduced shock effect and inc effect on another, ign immunity and charge recovery on the last

hard cliff
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I just rolled this

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That's better

prime needle
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better than double ign immune

short prairie
prime needle
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but if you roll corrupt bleed immune you can drop your protection mastery for another point

short prairie
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Why not increased effect reduced duration for prefix

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Then you will have a 0 uptime flask

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As a meme

onyx adder
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Low duration immunity utility flasks are quite hard to keep up when ur a slow ass bleed slam build in early maps fwiw

hard cliff
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What is early maps

prime needle
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idk i never had an issue with that

onyx adder
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T16

hard cliff
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damn

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I guess I'm in early maps

short prairie
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What’s late maps

prime needle
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you're also running bleed immunity on your life flask

hard cliff
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I did kill a t17 boss last night but it took all portals

warped sonnet
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i guess i have been doing early maps to 99

onyx adder
warped zenith
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Only need to kill em once

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Chore is done

hard cliff
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I did it for the challenge and to test my build

spice pecan
onyx adder
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A lot of ppl here would be hitting t16s late on day 1, thats early to me idk

hard cliff
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Robot t17 boss sucks with increased aoe always crit btw

prime needle
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60% deli 110% more currency 8 mod t16.5 xd

onyx adder
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This guy isnt gonna be doing big dick content right now

hard cliff
warped zenith
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You can try the dextral and sinistral scarabs if you need the scarab slot badly and early

mystic socket
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holy shit we finally hit

onyx adder
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Not at 92

prime needle
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i got to t16 early day 2 this league and that was my fastest yet

spice pecan
prime needle
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got my campaign sub 6 hrs for the first time

short prairie
livid quarry
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is str stack cheaper this leag?

mystic socket
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es maxxing

spice pecan
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unethical

hard cliff
mystic socket
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yes sir

short prairie
hard cliff
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Wouldn't it just be up all the time ?

short prairie
livid quarry
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yeah but heard the bases drop more from enchanted contract

spice pecan
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remember when dodge was a mechanic

warped sonnet
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ohh yes

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it was quite while ago

spice pecan
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dodge and evade both existing at the same time is very funny

hard cliff
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What would you replace the life flask with anyways

Quicksilver feels wrong for this kinda build

short prairie
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When your dura is too low you can’t regen charges fast enough to keep up

hard cliff
short prairie
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Especially on use when full

hard cliff
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I don't really remember how it worked tho

prime needle
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i mean that's exactly what i'm running lol

onyx adder
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Ur keeping that up off kills or not at all

warped sonnet
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yeah t3 charge when hit is worthless

twin arch
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@opaque sphinx why this one again

prime needle
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you just need a lot more life rn

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and you can afford to drop a LOT of your damage to do it

warped sonnet
onyx adder
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Wait, are u not running a qs

twin arch
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I see

prime needle
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with flask on you're 19mil dps but no coverage but only 20k ehp

hard cliff
prime needle
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and no he's not

twin arch
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what are the astrolabes for with ahrvest

spice pecan
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fruiting astrolabe

prime needle
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what's the point of dot cap if you're made of paper

short prairie
spice pecan
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damage good

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we like damage

short prairie
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I’m flicker

prime needle
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not on a build that can't deal the dmg

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because you have no clear

hard cliff
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so this is trash ?

onyx adder
hard cliff
warped sonnet
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get bleed immunity on insta life flask

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then there is no downsides

onyx adder
prime needle
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you have to be able to farm the items to get ur gear to hit dot cap

onyx adder
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Oh no thats what u did sorry

spice pecan
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thats tough

short prairie
onyx adder
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Why are u responding to me lmao

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I agreed with u

hexed egret
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Reeeee foulborn exalts are a fucking scam

short prairie
onyx adder
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Oh ok

full kraken
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Im starting to think I made some bad picks for my betrayal board, but its so fuckin hard to re-arrange the board once you are locked in

onyx adder
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U can continue

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I allow it

full kraken
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its taken me multiple days to get my board just right

warped zenith
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If chisels are dead, why am I using proliferation chisels every map kek

spice pecan
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betrayal board is literal cbt to set up

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i am so sorry

warped sonnet
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still piragon get your defences up and start to wonder about dot cap after that. especially slammers feel really shitty with low defenses no matter how much damage you do

short prairie
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What does WTD stand for

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What the dude?

full kraken
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cuz atm I have
Transport: Janus+ITF
Intervention: Haku+Leo

But haku and leo scarabs are basically worthless and ITF in transport never gives anything

I feel like I wanted to have ITF in intervention, the breach scarabs are actually very good $$$

hexed egret
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How did I fucking get 19% ar/es with a foulborn exalts slam

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Do these pieces of shit work

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God I'm so mad

spice pecan
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foulborn exalts are 100% a scam

hexed egret
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I got one drop from the tree and should have sold it

onyx adder
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Its funny

warped sonnet
#

i did 60m dps crit earthquake couple leagues ago and played for an day and swapped to other build since it was so squishy. takes out the fun

dire pond
#

I can't do maps anymore, what is going on?

hexed egret
#

I'm so mad

full kraken
#

so the question becomes, would I wanna go perandus in research maybe for cadiro unique>gold convert?

onyx adder
#

For the last 10 leagues the entire audience of ppl crafting old school vintage explody chest in this discord

full kraken
#

and if so, who else would I want in research

onyx adder
#

Is vulpixor

#

And nobody else

spice pecan
prime needle
#

you need a lot more life everywhere

hard cliff
prime needle
#

make your goal to get 5k life first

hexed egret
dire pond
hard cliff
spice pecan
prime needle
#

btw your boots

#

only are like 15% of your dmg

warped sonnet
#

get 5k life and cap chaos res, or get it atleast 40%+

hexed egret
#

I want to get better at crafting

#

I have the money to spend on failing my craft

prime needle
#

which you can get much of back

#

by rolling dmg on endurance charge and bleed speed

hexed egret
#

If there is a better way to do this I want to learn

full kraken
#

do we go riker and just pray on gamba'ing to hit belt?

hard cliff
#

Do I just wanna dump res, chaos and movespeed + armor on rare boots plus those mods ?

#

that's a good idea

short prairie
#

Let’s mad together

prime needle
#

so mine, which have 9% bleed speed and 5% inc dmg per end charge when added to your build

full kraken
#

or do I stick to perandus in transport (I really love his piles of gold) and use someone other than ITF

spice pecan
#

i also am mad

hexed egret
prime needle
#

you're only going from 19mil to 18.5mil dps

hexed egret
#

I need context before getting mad on your behalf

prime needle
#

but you aren't wasting the rest of the boots

hard cliff
#

How crazy are those to hit and is that with the grand ones ?

prime needle
#

legit go spend 1d each on rings that have t1 life and some chaos res

#

uhh

#

the bleeding mod is exquisite and the dmg per end charge is grand i think

#

i think it's only 7% for the grand bleed mod

hexed egret
#

@onyx adder why are Archdemon crowns no longer the meta for BV

hard cliff
hexed egret
#

I checked ninja

#

Last league everyone and their mom was using one

short prairie
prime needle
#

i mean you roll it, then you can increase or decrease the tier using orbs of conflict

hexed egret
#

I don't understand why

prime needle
#

which are like 1.8div each

mystic socket
#

last one

prime needle
#

and RNG on which one gets raised or lowered. tier goes up to perfect which is 3 above grand

full kraken
spice pecan
#

oh i wonder if archdemon crown for raise spectre is easier than getting +2 minion boots

prime needle
#

i spent a lot on conflict orbs this league

hexed egret
full kraken
spice pecan
#

-2 level of supports might hurt a bit

hexed egret
#

Oh it's because of the flat?

spice pecan
#

since you lose level on companionship and minion life

full kraken
#

doesnt minion pact give a dump truck of flat dmg?

spice pecan
#

it would be good for raise spectre level but ppl are just doing +2 minion boots

#

yeah, you get infinite flat phys

hexed egret
#

Ok that makes sense

spice pecan
#

my meatsack only has like 500k life and i'm 8 digit dps for free

hexed egret
#

Thanks bro

hexed egret
#

Makes sense

spice pecan
#

yeah the support levels matter a lot esp with these gems that only have 3 levels

hexed egret
#

Hmmmm

snow timber
#

What's this gauntlet that everyone's talking about now

#

Googling doesn't give me anything

blissful garnet
#

what helm did this used to be

tired gate
spice pecan
ebon tendon
#

do we have any clarification on what "faster" means in this context..?

tired gate
#

Streamer (and sponsored) event that usually lasts a month or more

short prairie
tired gate
#

Where modifiers are really hard

short prairie
#

im 2nd on the ladder now

hard cliff
#

is 151 life on boots good ?

hard cliff
warped sonnet
short prairie
#

manually

open breach
#

is a autobomber champion build good for getting challenges done?

#

tryna respec my build, looking at random duelist possibilites

hard cliff
#

I did

tired gate
spice pecan
#

what kind of autobomber

hard cliff
#

it broke

tired gate
short prairie
#

wdf

#

ancient orb

tired gate
#

Phys dot is pretty hard to scale

spice pecan
#

lmao gg senses

warped sonnet
open breach
#

was looking at blight w/ death aura

tired gate
short prairie
open breach
#

but i guess that cant do bosses

hard cliff
warped sonnet
#

yeah that explains

#

it might take a while

hard cliff
#

My eblade who could phase maven did a bit more than 2.5 m lol

tired gate
#

Senses you can do a reverse landmine where I buy your hh for 50c instead of 50d

thick goblet
#

and pog out

short prairie
nocturne maple
#

mmm, 3.9m explode

short prairie
finite quail
#

one juicy map

tired gate
hard cliff
short prairie
short prairie
#

i couldnt get the double influenced one but

#

thats my screenshot

normal hedge
#

thoughts? ssf btw

short prairie
finite quail
tired gate
#

Doimg the same build as me and senses?

normal hedge
#

Ofc

#

@short prairie gz on hh

short prairie
normal hedge
#

My boyfriend has HH as well

tired gate
#

Surely mageblood on next belt click

short prairie
#

i thought you dumped your bf

tired gate
#

They have multiple bfs in reserve

#

Out of a cryostasis

hard cliff
#

ok wish me luck rolling these boots

#

wtf perma delirium hideout

#

scary af

short prairie
#

so rilay is a playgirl

#

i see

tired gate
#

Or an organ seller

ebon tendon
short prairie
#

omg

tired gate
normal hedge
#

bricked my boots when i corrupted them 😭

tired gate
short prairie
tired gate
#

Either way I heard irs a very good scarab

short prairie
#

too

normal hedge
tired gate
#

Flickersmite

short prairie
ebon tendon
short prairie
#

im a smite enjoyer too

finite quail
#

flicky smity

short prairie
#

but smite as a buff

normal hedge
#

🥀

short prairie
full kraken
#

just spent like 400 tries hitting grand spell block on eater, hit attack block like 10 times...

So now I have
eater: 3
exarch: 6 perfect

orb of conflict annd... eater-1s and exarc stays at perfect.

normal hedge
#

i wanna try annihilation support, people said its good for minions

hard cliff
full kraken
#

I swea to god it feels like orb of conflict has the utmost extreme amount of desire sensor

hard cliff
#

I prob want the flat end charge not unique but whatever

#

Boss ramp

warped sonnet
#

those are decent upgrade

hard cliff
#

yeah Kouth was right slightly worse version of the unique boots plus actual life +chaos res

#

It's good

#

It also takes off str pressure and res pressure so I can easily replace my ass pau ring

tired gate
proud gorge
#

I gotta say, I don't really understand why this particular Arc build is going for Knife in the Back instead of For the Jugular. Like, I'm not entirely sure how best to evaluate the difference between the two.

hard cliff
#

without the str+dex ring uhhhhhhh

#

I'm gonna farm up and replace the ring and amulet

proud gorge
#

maybe its because when they don't have power charges yet they don't have 100% crit chance without Knife in the Back, so Knife in the Back is there to give 100% crit chance at the start of the map against full health enemies to trigger Elusive?

#

or something?

#

who knows

hexed egret
proud gorge
#

I would think For the Jugular would be better since it gives more damage against random enemies you encounter while clearing maps, and this is definitely a map clearing build

mystic socket
#

what area level are unrelenting 5ways

hard cliff
#

I think that was a shrine build too

hexed egret
#

How much life did he have jeez

proud gorge
#

but yeah, for some reason this exact build is 92% Knife in the Back

tired gate
warped sonnet
#

ohh did not even notice that you are running many tattoos

proud gorge
#

I'd have thought there'd be more variance

#

but no, it's almost exclusively Knife in the Back

tired gate
hard cliff
#

5,023

proud gorge
#

yeah but since it's a clearing build, I have thought the crit multi at high health would be better

tired gate
#

Doesnt hurt to use the other though

warped sonnet
proud gorge
#

since culling strike means enemies spend much less time at low health than at high health

hard cliff
#

I have no idea how tf he is also fitting in skitterbots

#

I guess leader of the pack

finite quail
ebon tendon
#

i need to run more but im a bit sus

finite quail
#

10 div unid'

stray sedge
#

gl

finite quail
#

hell nah

#

selling it

stray sedge
#

coward

finite quail
#

I need currency for a new 11 link sword

full kraken
# finite quail ayo

thanks Im prolly gonna buy that and fuck up crafting my chest with it shortly

warped sonnet
#

id every drop

tired gate
finite quail
#

2749 chaos

#

Time to buy a new anarchic spiritblade

tired gate
#

The loot portion is probably mostly small but it adds up

#

You wont know if a currency farm is good with just 10 runs after all

#

You need 100

#

Statistics momento

digital fern
#

time2 run za gauntlet (i already did the other few)

finite quail
#

I should try uber cortex

tired gate
#

Thats some weird colored chips

finite quail
#

with my tiny baby dps

short prairie
#

hh is actually fun

#

i never triedit before

finite quail
#

is that true

#

are you lying to us

short prairie
#

i only use MB

#

never HH

ornate barn
#

progen (last portal cus i kept getting degened on a regen based build)

warped sonnet
#

nice progen you have there!

hexed egret
#

God I can't wait to make my BV build use a mageblood

#

My mageblood has been lying idle for a few days

ornate barn
#

the envoy has it now

warped sonnet
#

i have never played with mb

hard cliff
hexed egret
full kraken
hexed egret
#

This is the 2nd time I have it and it was from ancient orb

warped sonnet
hexed egret
#

Boooo

#

Rich people problem

warped sonnet
#

am swimming in divines

#

currency in stash is wasted currency

finite quail
#

what the fuck

hexed egret
#

Craft something

#

It melts your currency

hexed egret
#

That sick

warped sonnet
#

i always spend everything i get on crafting ect, that is why wealthy exile looks so bad lol

full kraken
hexed egret
#

What does it do

hard cliff
warped sonnet
#

crit and crit multi

hexed egret
#

Ah

#

That's a sick amulet damn

warped sonnet
finite quail
hard cliff
#

road to 60 unique rings

runic barn
#

just deferred a mirror shard

#

lets get this bread

final owl
#

i realised i was grinding currency without having any idea what i intend to spend it on :I

warped sonnet
runic barn
#

ooh thats really cool

final owl
#

it's either 1) attempt to make current build more chonky and probably ruin damage in the process or 2) roll a new build

warped sonnet
#

also spent it well

runic barn
#

believe it or not, but i dropped a mirror in acts around 7 years ago or something lol

#

a6 or 7 i think (lol)

finite quail
hard cliff
#

Why is explicit modifiers better on non containment Strongbox than Rarer Varities scarb ?

#

It's scarab farming strat

final owl
#

probs because it results it more high value scarabs on average somehow

hard cliff
#

Thank you Joe 🫡

iron zephyr
hard cliff
#

No, but I appreciate the offer

#

we've got enough 4 months left in league

#

(it's getting extended to push out Poe 2 mobile)

final owl
#

it's still a long time regardless

hard cliff
final owl
#

it kinda seems like you have to choose minion pact BV for an alt build currently right

digital fern
#

was pretty quick

#

well except for shaper

warped sonnet
#

damn i had already forgotten about omni, to think that it used to be meta

digital fern
#

these too from cort

hard cliff
#

What's that giant ugly bug thing in the middle ?

final owl
#

so, minion pact BV chieftan, occultist or glad

finite quail
#

ayyy first one done

digital fern
hard cliff
dim glen
#

GUYS, can someone help me understand how to capture wild bristle matron as a specter ? I tried to fight him in menagerie multiple times, the corpse disappear instantly even if i have no source of explode/shatter/corpse destruction. I fought him in harvest too, the corpse is just gone, i never managed to specter him

warped sonnet
final owl
finite quail
#

ayy second one done

nova thorn
tranquil umbra
final owl
#

sure and not just oriaths

tranquil umbra
#

occultist is fun with gloom shrine

#

you get like 90% chance to explode

final owl
#

what does a gloom belt run

finite quail
#

sadge, lost the crit

final owl
#

cost-wise, currently

finite quail
#

maybe reforge influence?

tranquil umbra
#

gloom alone is like

warped sonnet
finite quail
#

no thats a suffix nvm

tranquil umbra
#

yeah gloom alone is like

#

35c lol

final owl
#

cheap as chips. gloom + massive a bit spenno but not that bad

true horizon
#

Need help pricing an item i cant post in price check for some reason

true horizon
#

Oh mb LOL, been playing for like 20h straight kinda tired

pallid stirrup
#

I guess slight price variance in maps is the new landmine meta. Price a couple maps at 5c to lure people, most at 6c to get them used to clicking through the warning, and a couple at multiple div to landmine them

final owl
#

they changed how landmine detection works recently, i don't think that works anymore

rapid igloo
#

I’ve just started the download for PoE. I’ve never played if anyone wants to help and explain the game to me lmk. Would greatly appreciate it.

meager comet
#

I couldn't bring myself to dampen someone's day like that myself. only here for the fun times

pallid stirrup
#

Do you know what they changed? I'm only aware of them changing something to do with closing the trade window

meager comet
tranquil umbra
final owl
viscid ruin
#

the face of "YUFOKDUPMATE"

rapid igloo
#

Hell yeah thanks yall

meager comet
final owl
#

when you get stuck / confused you can always ask questions here / in the build help channel

rapid igloo
#

Hell yeah thanks appreciate that yall

forest flower
#

people are generally very helpful here, game's very confusing

final owl
#

i mean YMMV if you ask what are considered stupid questions or you don't actually read the answers you are given. but still. mostly helpful.

meager comet
#

even some guides are confusing. Some are wrong or less than efficient also. So even with guides and help, you still learn things

final owl
#

if you've never played before there are zero guides without at least some gaps they don't cover because it's assumed knowledge

meager comet
#

indeed

iron zephyr
#

70div into this build so far

meager comet
#

I woke up today, sold 25 div of stuff. Bought stacked decks whilst I watched a movie. Got an Apothecary and a Hinekora's lock div card. Ended up with 75div. Updated half my gear, gems and so on. Now I'm broke but I tripled my damage. Good times.

#

these cost me 35div. Probably worth it

iron zephyr
#

I’m using a 200+ div invested mana stacker to fund this witch build but farming is repetitive

hard cliff
#

😎

steady elk
#

Meanwhile me coping about my 2 divs

iron zephyr
opal ingot
meager comet
#

I have still yet to drop one.

warped sonnet
#

time to do ritual shopping

opal ingot
#

or boxes

#

full mirage boxes

#

its crazy div per hour for how undemanding it is for your gear

meager comet
#

yeah ambush scarab of containment is a bit of an investment tho. Although you can probably skip it for cheap mode

steady elk
opal ingot
#

nah not containmet

steady elk
#

Honestly I've been lazy I'm still 90/100 on maps

opal ingot
#

triple ambush, hidden compartments, potency

final owl
#

how does boxes compare to harvest in divs / hour

steady elk
#

And my current gear is starting to drop off at t14

opal ingot
warped sonnet
#

ritual is really low investment and it will give returns if you give it time

meager comet
#

harvest is consistent. boxes are random AF

steady elk
#

500 dps axe lmaooo

final owl
#

it seems like i need to grind up some more currency if i'm considering a new build

opal ingot
#

if youre more of a casual you can net 18d per hour to 25d

#

if you're fast about it 30d+ per hour

finite quail
#

ok so If I hit the recomb on this, it will be giga juicy

hard cliff
#

@warped sonnet
After a new chest and these rare boots this build feels 100% better

I am not scared of blue mobs anymore lol

iron zephyr
forest flower
#

ritual scares me, i have ptsd from getting oneshot in poe2

warped sonnet
meager comet
#

ritual in poe2 is slightly more difficult because of the mods on the ritual altars.

steady elk
iron zephyr
#

@steady elk another way to make money here and there is to pick up poo poo uniques and corrupt them. If they get good implicits just sell them

steady elk
#

This time you get one shot by full phys crushers and those chaos path droppers

forest flower
#

generally any map that's small and requires you to fight in an enclosed area makes me anxious

steady elk
warped sonnet
#

been doing pretty much ritual only for the past 3 years, only scary things are those stupid homing balls that hurt if you stand still

meager comet
#

trialmaster makes me anxious around Round 9.

forest flower
#

and ritual feels like that but worse

steady elk
#

All of em are trash tho perhaps I'll start vaaling em

forest flower
#

yeah trial master as well, because the area shrinks a lot

iron zephyr
#

That’s the trick

hard cliff
meager comet
#

I spent a year farming ritual in both games. Aside from omens in POE2, never really made any decent return on it.

iron zephyr
#

Vaaling them could potentially make them not as bad

forest flower
#

i'm also relatively new i guess, i played poe when vaal league just ended almost 10 years ago i think

#

friend got me back into the game, convinced me to try a league instead of standard

#

loving it so far lol

spice pecan
#

good, standard is kind of unplayable anyway

meager comet
#

I daren't login to standard. Been playing since closed beta. My remove only tabs make me cry

grave kelp
#

is tehre any good filters when you farm ritual?

forest flower
#

i played RF chieftain last league, this league playing pconc Pf

warped sonnet
#

i just use my normal filter on ritual

spice pecan
#

i wonder how much storage all the abandoned remove-only tabs are taking up on ggg servers

meager comet
forest flower
#

and i'm now just realising just how complacent i've gotten

grave kelp
forest flower
#

cos rf just lets me facetank anything and everything

grave kelp
warped sonnet
#

no wonder if you look at everything they added in the past 10 years

forest flower
#

the game feels super complex though, i need to study all the unique gems because back then they didn't exist

meager comet
# grave kelp

the apply item filter maybe? I dont use controller so couldnt say about that UI

forest flower
#

also ended up buying a 20d pair of shoes that i could've crafted myself for less than a div... expensive lesson

spice pecan
#

crafting is bad and unethical anyways, participate in capitalism

meager comet
#

sometimes convenience is better than failed crafting attempts :p

iron zephyr
meager comet
#

currency is to be used in this game. No point storing hundreds of divs for it to go to standard and get rusty.

forest flower
#

i've never crafted stuff, generally i'm risk averse

#

so this time i'm trying crafting and it's quite confusing

warped sonnet
#

lol it has been a while for me

forest flower
#

cos of all the weighting

meager comet
#

crafting can be rough to learn but once you do, most of it isn't complex.

iron zephyr
#

Gambling is the fun part

meager comet
#

yeah I like to identify gems/watchers eye/stacked decks.

forest flower
#

same, i like gems

#

they feel like low stakes gambling

#

slam alts + augs until i'm happy, regal, if nice, ex it

#

then if i'm feeling zesty, chuck a vaal

meager comet
#

One league I was so lucky with stacked decks. hit enough apothecary's to get a mageblood. Sold a few corrupted mageblood cards too. Had a headhunter in no time. Other leagues tho, the decks are cold AF and I'm scraping for a div to buy more

final owl
#

crafting runs the full range of extremes. there is a lot of easy crafting that is usually cheap, and then there is the higher end where you can burn 100d on a 10d item

meager comet
#

gem imbue gambling is fun this league.

#

ran a few raise spectre gems trying to hit a feeding frenzy

forest flower
#

i read that minion builds are crazy this league

spice pecan
#

not necessarily minions, but the new minion pact support

final owl
#

minion pact specifically

spice pecan
#

very very broken on BV

final owl
#

just because of snapshotting

#

but i guess it seems like it is here to stay for 3.28

#

so, as is the PoE way, abuse early abuse hard

spice pecan
#

i was kinda surprised they didnt nerf it

forest flower
#

oh-

#

minion life + tankiest minion then sac it for big damage?

spice pecan
#

basically

final owl
#

yeap

forest flower
#

i'm hoping to make a golemancer, it looks like fun

final owl
#

elementalist still pretty strong

forest flower
#

but i also read that generally mages are extremely expensive

#

cos they tend to spec into things like EB and MOM

#

and mana stuff's expensive

final owl
#

all builds get extremely expensive at the top end. maybe EB / MoM setups tend to be specced into later I guess

spice pecan
#

mana stackers are generally the easiest stacking builds to start

forest flower
#

oh?

spice pecan
#

yes

#

archmage hiero is a very popular leaguestarter

prime needle
#

i feel like str stacker isn't that crazy to get into

#

not as easy as mana but not multimirror to be functional expensive

spice pecan
#

i mean, str stackers do no damage before replica alberons + a good weapon + synth jewelry

prime needle
#

a few hundred div this league can get you

final owl
#

heiro is the most played ascend this league, though i think that's mostly shock nova?

prime needle
#

you can craft the simplex pretty cheap

spice pecan
#

yeah, but a manastacker can be played on like zero chaos

prime needle
#

which has historically been one of the biggest hurdles

prime needle
#

yeah fs

forest flower
#

i also have a problem with not really knowing how a build works

#

like for example i'd go onto poe.ninja, follow someone's build to the letter

#

and somehow still get oneshot

#

and not know why

spice pecan
#

a lot of times when ppl say they followed a build or a guide exactly, they in fact didn't and are missing several crucial things

forest flower
#

i recently got myself a svalinn, but after following the build i just die

spice pecan
#

at least in my experience

final owl
#

just takes time to understand the setups. you do that by trying them. and if not working.. ask

#

block is like that. it 100% works until it doesn't

spice pecan
#

its easy to overlook things

forest flower
#

then turns out the build has a progenesis which apparently helps a ton

#

then i wonder "if i don't have it does it just not work then"

final owl
#

I bought a progenesis as a survivability crutch. it does help 😛

meager comet
# forest flower i read that minion builds are crazy this league

spectres are super OP this league thanks to the new Congregation gem and imbues. There are variants too so you can mess around with your build a bit. If you want to go expensive mode there is the Doriyani's + Wretched Defiler setup that cost a bomb but outperforms frostbearers for clear. Im running frostbearers with a crit variant and level 27 spectre gem (level 81 spectres) with 6 utility spectres giving me Determination + 5% phys reduction, Zealotry, Increased crit multi for my minions, Onslaught, and I run Haste and Purity of Elements. I'm max block, 80% resists, 172k EHP. Content melts and nothing seems to be too scary except no regen maps.

spice pecan
forest flower
#

i'm working on getting a mageblood now, but idk how compatible it is with pconc

forest flower
spice pecan
#

mageblood generally isnt really worth it on pathfinder

#

you want tides of time

short prairie
tight plinth
#

Can you have multiple frog thingies if you use sands of time? marauderthinking

spice pecan
warped sonnet
#

can you get frog as an spectre

meager comet
# forest flower i'll look this up, this seems pretty cool

you won't find a crit variant of frostbearers. It's just my own flavour to make the build better earlier for cheaper. Still works out about 40% more damage overall until you hit level 29 gem and then the non-crit variant takes over

forest flower
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i have attribute issues without my current belt, i'll probably need to recraft my helm and boots

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it's a double STR liner lol

final owl
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I am considering trying this version -

forest flower
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speaking of which

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when you build crit, generally how much is considered "enough"?

final owl
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depends how much you rely on it I guess

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anywhere from 50% to 100%

forest flower
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cos i remember crit scales off your main weapon base % or something

hexed egret
meager comet
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it's kind of like breakpoints. 34% is if your first to reach for. But ideally 50% upto 100% if you can get it

final owl
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depends on the type of skill

hexed egret
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Some people are ok with diamond flask capping

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Some people are ok with 75%

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It's a 3 in 4 hits that will crit

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It's really just expectations