1┃general

[visual stream]

at that point this one starting to become poevault 2

[frigid wedge]

"it's not immortal" yes this is why he said nigh
also u just grab used when charges reach full and enough gen for it to insta fill

[fossil mural]

It is? You need a hit to deal full ward+life damage, and it cant die to dots because it has like infinite recovery from recoup

Very few things can kill it

[frigid wedge]

or do we mean olroths resolve

[karmic gust]

it dies to rare mod instantly

[fossil mural]

Normally

[karmic gust]

so you cant rly do strats with a lot of rares with it

[fossil mural]

What mod

[karmic gust]

flash siphoner

[dusky void]

pob is the most importnat thing for me i wanna see dps max hits recovery etc

[karmic gust]

flask

[lucid kiln]

I agree, you are right

[opal ingot]

Tf is this map Im doing risk got 60 quant on altar and the harvest gives me Jackshit xd

[frigid wedge]

u can fill an iron flask in 1 tick by breaking ur ward and theres nothing to siphon

bc its full

[opal ingot]

Have to run 50 more of this weird ass strat just to see if it's worth it

[karmic gust]

flask siphoner disables charge gain

[frigid wedge]

and then empty

[karmic gust]

so it bricks that

[gleaming linden]

no pob in guide = trash, theres no argument to be made here

[frigid wedge]

oh ew wtf

[karmic gust]

and it has 50 radius

[gleaming linden]

its like the bare minimum for a guide

[karmic gust]

xd

[frigid wedge]

i thought they pulled charges from ur flasks

thats dumb wth

[karmic gust]

thats what i thought as well and i onlyplay pathfinders all the time :d

but its siphoning charges + disabling charge gain

only learned that after looking into ward setups myself as i was interested inthemtoo

[fossil mural]

Just kill them offscreen with triggerbots

[frigid wedge]

istg pathfinder would be the best ascendancy for valdo if they didnt decide to brick it every chance they get with random monster

[karmic gust]

but theres no way im playng something that just insta die if rare with mod appears on screen

[fossil mural]

Not triggerbot ward shatter is garbo anyway

[frigid wedge]

ghost and rare mob both brick it

[gleaming linden]

like doryani without ultimatum shield

dying to every mana siphoner instantly

[frigid wedge]

doesnt triggerbots take from their own max ward

[karmic gust]

nah doryani doesnt insta die and the radius of the mana siphoner is also much lower

[fossil mural]

No?

[frigid wedge]

oh interesting

[strange coral]

The timeless for the build is like 200d as well

[gleaming linden]

-200 doryani instantly dies to mana siphoner

then slap on shroudwalker or w/e

[fossil mural]

The lightning siphon doesnt do that much damage ngl

[gleaming linden]

ez map brick

[fossil mural]

I could react to it even in fairly juiced maps

[strange coral]

I personally don't think it's worth spending over 400d on a build that just randomly die is a good build

[karmic gust]

-200 doesnt matter doryani makes it count as 0 lightning res

[fossil mural]

On budget setup

[gleaming linden]

counts for dots as 0

[karmic gust]

you die fast but it still takes likek 2-3 seconds very avoidable

[frigid wedge]

i think imma league start soulrend of the spiral next league

[dusky void]

ok i think i finnaly fixed my frenzy gen with 20% qual flicker 10% on marked resonating shrine and newly gull with max power thats an average of 1.95 frenzy charges per flicker attack with greater multistrike that should go to 2.6

[fossil mural]

Its not 2-3 seconds unless you are leeching/have some dr

[drowsy eagle]

mines?

[fossil mural]

Its less than a second id say

[tawdry olive]

i have never even heard of this skill so you're doing good

[fossil mural]

At 5k hp

[frigid wedge]

reaping is a better miner, has way more base

[noble sleet]

is minion pact busted right now?...

[karmic gust]

yes?

[drowsy eagle]

no

[frigid wedge]

spiral is either cwc, cwc into cwdt or self cast

[noble sleet]

idk anything about it or what it does

[strange coral]

Only problem with minion pact builds is slightly clunky

[drowsy eagle]

it's busted a few days ago not right now

[strange coral]

Cus well it's bv

[frigid wedge]

take % minion life and put as base dmg

[fossil mural]

You dont need bv

Congregation gaming

[frigid wedge]

can u run vbv spammer with minion pact?

[lucid kiln]

Chat how important is scrying when you farm a certain map?

[strange coral]

Why even vbv

[gleaming linden]

what about ice spear with minion pact

[frigid wedge]

vaal temptation

[karmic gust]

no vaal skills

[strange coral]

Ew

[fossil mural]

Trans version maybe

[noble sleet]

ohhh no don't tell me blade vortex is back lmao

[frigid wedge]

sad

[strange coral]

Vbv just makes you lose a link

The imbued gems are no longer possible

[frigid wedge]

bv is only good for it bc it snapshots

[fossil mural]

Normal ice spear you need to use too often

[frigid wedge]

yeah thats fine w me

if it allowed vaal skills

[gleaming linden]

it barrages, counts as 1 use

[frigid wedge]

was hoping to just grab spectral tigers and remove le clonk

and spam vbv

[fossil mural]

Isnt normal ice spear clear just whack?

[frigid wedge]

iirc its p good with snakepit

[gleaming linden]

its good with snipers mark but you can only mark on hit with attacks

[fossil mural]

Maybe I just havent seen a good one

[gleaming linden]

so u gotta self cast or trigger another way

[fossil mural]

Trans version seems nice doe

One use per screen

Is reasonable

[frigid wedge]

mathil played self cast snakepit ice spear deadeye a while back

[karmic gust]

i think if you are doing ice spear build you should just use both ice spears

[gleaming linden]

the problem with snipers mark ice spear is the better the build, the worse the clear

[karmic gust]

and pretend you are bow build

that has single target and clear skill

[gleaming linden]

cause u 1 shot rares before they can spew proj

i played ice spear deadeye in tota and it was actually a good build

until it suffered from success

[normal hedge]

i think if ure doing ice spear build you should just pretend u're a bow build and reroll to something else

[fossil mural]

Sounds like trans static strike

[visual stream]

hmm is there any build that decent in both mapping and bossing guys ? i screw up bad and burn all my currency rn

[fossil mural]

Self regulation clear pog

[drowsy eagle]

coc bow ice spear

[gleaming linden]

nah that skill is ass regardless

[fossil mural]

Not coc - the new bow

[frigid wedge]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-N0-57LzTro
literally only time ive seen self cast ice spear

[fossil mural]

Its really not. Its very good.

If you can maintain at least 6 stacks

And it works with penance mark I think?

[frigid wedge]

i wonder how long penance mark will survive

theres always some stupid tech with it

[gleaming linden]

i was surprised they buffed it

meta shakeup when dude

[frigid wedge]

yeah it always has some weird tech

[gleaming linden]

its just the same skills getting balance

[fossil mural]

They mentioned it

On interview

[gleaming linden]

and dogshit trans gems

[inner prawn]

surely KBOC wont survive another league next league

[frigid wedge]

icl im not gonna watch 2 hours of Jonathans face, please summarise

[fossil mural]

They did nerf it

[inner prawn]

lol hardly.

[fossil mural]

It was andrew interview

[fossil mural]

The rune and mana stack nerfs were sizable

[inner prawn]

that doesn't matter with how the meta has shifted.

[noble sleet]

so can the minion pact blade vortex melt ubers or does that synergy have downsides at all?

[inner prawn]

KBOC is still one of the best clear skills in the game.

[gleaming linden]

you don't like tencent's top guy?

[frigid wedge]

runegraft changes didnt affect kboc

[inner prawn]

it has all the benefits of playing a bow build without having to be squishy.

[frigid wedge]

it affected arc and exsang

[fossil mural]

It was a bug fix

[karmic gust]

no there was separate bugfix also

[fossil mural]

Has nothing to do with proj change

[karmic gust]

on top of making it proj only

[frigid wedge]

oh interesting

[inner prawn]

and the runegraft was never supposed to work with kboc anyway.

[frigid wedge]

what was the bug

[gleaming linden]

block stacker ls is still decent just lacks damage a tad now

[drowsy eagle]

downside is if you forgot to click you brick

[karmic gust]

so kboc lost runegraft and also bugged double damage tornado

which is like fine

its still decent skill

[frigid wedge]

ig so

[fossil mural]

About penance mark they said its a thing that comes up often

[karmic gust]

i dont think it needs nerfs tho or that its broken or anything, i think anyone who thinks that is kinda delusional a bit

[fossil mural]

And they have to constantly keep it in mind

[pliant hamlet]

Did they shuffle uber drops up? I'm having really weird rng if not

[fossil mural]

Which bosses

[karmic gust]

yea andrew hates it rip

penance mark is best

[pliant hamlet]

I have a nimis and 3 rational doctrines, but can't hit hte "common" or more common drops

[frigid wedge]

honestly im waiting for a patch note to say smth like "Kinetic blast of clustering - Now has: 'projectiles cannot split or fork' instead of 'projectiles cannot split' "

[karmic gust]

it already has cannot split

[pliant hamlet]

oh hey DB, thoughts on soulrend of the spiral? Finally got a nimis after 2 years of wanting to play this skill Lol curious if it's actually good or not

[gleaming linden]

kinetic blast now has "projectiles cannot return" and watch the 5 way losers cry for days

please mark

do it for us

[karmic gust]

i think its good skill but I think WTD would disagree as he actually played it :d

[frigid wedge]

fixed it

[dusky void]

wtf has the citadel boss for an ability i just was stuck till i died couldnt move attack for 10sec till my end charges fell off

[inner prawn]

idc what they do at this point, I just want spectral throw to get buffed or get a rework.

[karmic gust]

the positioning requirements on it are rough

and you need proj speed

like bunch of it

[pliant hamlet]

Ah, Can't just slap it on CWC and call it a day?

[frigid wedge]

vengeant cascade go brr

[karmic gust]

technically you can if your enemy do not moves one bit :d

otherwise the projs move so slowly

and the hitbox is small ass shit apparently too

[gleaming linden]

brother they havent touched the beta skills in forever

[karmic gust]

so you better be right inside enemy ass

and the enemy better does not move

[pliant hamlet]

haha

[inner prawn]

spectral throw was not a beta skill.

[pliant hamlet]

Maybe I look for other options for nimis

[karmic gust]

i think if you get bunch of proj speed its probs fine

[pliant hamlet]

Never been an option for me so debating what to play

[karmic gust]

but if you want something consistent probs aint it

[inner prawn]

spectral throw was added with the scion which was not in beta.

[karmic gust]

well there is always molten :d

for nimis

or blazing salvo

[inner prawn]

also they reworked sweep so who knows

[pliant hamlet]

Ugh, Zenith looks like complete ass

[karmic gust]

i think salvo works with it?

[pliant hamlet]

i can test

[karmic gust]

well you can just do regularmoltne

not zenith

its still pretty broken skill

[gleaming linden]

my bad bro beta and early release kinda blend together for me

[karmic gust]

especialyl with nimis

idk why ppl discount it

[frigid wedge]

lightning arrow and vls time

[gleaming linden]

spectral throw was a goated skill for years tho it just never got enough love

to stay meta

[karmic gust]

spectral throw is goated now

it got the merc mod back

[pliant hamlet]

well I have a soulrend replica dragonfang, annihilation's approach, a 21/20 soulrend of spiral and nimis + a bunch of good betrayal's stings to corrupt

[frigid wedge]

spectral throw of trarthus kinda nutty rn again

[pliant hamlet]

that's why I was considering sr of spiral

[noble sleet]

https://youtu.be/2qKuiJly18A?si=E5Y-moEpt6LGICiY huh mann his life looks like hes always on the brim of death lmao

[pliant hamlet]

blazing salvo works btw

[karmic gust]

well yoiu can always try and see how it feels right

just make sure to grab proj speed

[pliant hamlet]

true

[frigid wedge]

can he do it faster

[karmic gust]

like the DE on soulrend of spiral is ridiculous

but also

[pliant hamlet]

yeah that was my thought

[karmic gust]

be mindful of mana costs

[tough cove]

thats the big issue with SR in general

[karmic gust]

its hard to sustain that skill even with EB :d

[pliant hamlet]

oh right I have to care about that lmao

[tough cove]

the mana costs are brutal

[noble sleet]

what

[karmic gust]

you can always do the khatals mana sustain technology :d

and life sustain

and dfnese

[karmic gust]

well he built squishy char

[drowsy eagle]

how about poison soulrend spiral pf

[tough cove]

i need to figure out defensive layers for my current toon

[karmic gust]

but thats palsterons fault not minion pact fault

[pliant hamlet]

it is poison

[frigid wedge]

p common build

[tough cove]

besides walk in slam watch 2 screens die

[karmic gust]

yea on PF you can just replica sorrow

and sustain anything

[gleaming linden]

does vaal spectral still do hella damage?

[pliant hamlet]

Palsteron's pob is hillarious, he has like 300m dps and 98% of that comes from minion pact

[frigid wedge]

how jank u think it would b with paradoxica and chainbreaker for vls

[pliant hamlet]

why is he investing so much into damage

the fuck you need so much dps for lol

[fossil mural]

Pob warrioring

Always

[karmic gust]

well it onyl eats the slost that it eats otherwise theres no jank really

[tough cove]

people who get views are always pob warrioring

[gleaming linden]

vaal spectral is only 15 souls but it stores just 1 use D:

[noble sleet]

it's just omg looks like if he gets sneezed on, he'll die. I can't imagine his dps tho lmao. wonder how it does on uber dupers

[median rock]

any heist gamers know what blueprint i should run to increase odds to find the non replica unique bases?

[karmic gust]

yea you have this gem that gives you free damage out of your ass

[frigid wedge]

so i think it could work fine?

[fossil mural]

Shepherd with vaal ring

[karmic gust]

and you make squishy ass occultist with it

like are you ill

[tough cove]

you might be able to do somethign with vaal spectral and that new exceptional

[pliant hamlet]

yeah that is the most confusing shit ever lol

[fossil mural]

Can get cost to 2 souls

[noble sleet]

320p quality

[fossil mural]

If you try

[frigid wedge]

irl or ingame

[pliant hamlet]

I was thinking of building a BV PF with that tech

[karmic gust]

if i did not had fetish for pathfinder i would play minion pact either on azadi glad

[fossil mural]

Bbbut POPS

[karmic gust]

or transcedence 90% res chief

[pliant hamlet]

or azadi glad yeah

[karmic gust]

but as i like pf

[pliant hamlet]

holy

[karmic gust]

im making pf for it

[pliant hamlet]

90% res chief is disgusting

you can go full fire too

[rancid tendon]

does inc effect of explicit mods increase effect of risk?

[pliant hamlet]

That's super tempting

[karmic gust]

yep and enmity

[fossil mural]

I want to go enmity chief

[karmic gust]

ad shit

[frigid wedge]

can get 100% chaos pops without needing occultist

[pliant hamlet]

Yeah

[frigid wedge]

foulborn witchbanes exist

[fossil mural]

But I think chief pops suck

[gleaming linden]

chief pops suck

[frigid wedge]

its literally just a 15% version of profane bloom

[karmic gust]

even though idk if you go enmity maybe, just annoting if you also wanna do transcendence

[frigid wedge]

per jewel socket

[pliant hamlet]

I already have the build tbf lol

[karmic gust]

but also i dont think you need enmity for damage nyaywa

[gleaming linden]

its like witchhunter pops

[karmic gust]

xd

[fossil mural]

What would you clear with?

On chief

Cause 10%

[pliant hamlet]

BV

[fossil mural]

Aint it

[pliant hamlet]

BV gloom belt

[tough cove]

depends on what your build is

[karmic gust]

just get oriaths end or yea gloom belt

but really just get oriaths end

[fossil mural]

Yea but then you arent scaling chaos damage at all

[gleaming linden]

idk reap with herald of ash

[karmic gust]

gloom belt is such a bait

[fossil mural]

Is it enough?

[karmic gust]

especially on BV whn you have no attack speed

[pliant hamlet]

Gloom is plenty

[karmic gust]

or cast speed

for mobility

[frigid wedge]

why does everyone sleep so fuckin hard on foulborn witchbanes

[tough cove]

infernal cry + HOA has usually been enough for me

[karmic gust]

like are you gona pretend you are playing poe2 wih gloom shrine blt and no flasks on BV :d

[fossil mural]

Might try oriaths

[pliant hamlet]

I don't live in trade, it's too fucking rare lol

[fossil mural]

Tbh I have literally never played oriaths

[tough cove]

witchbane is really good

[karmic gust]

because that sounds like misery

[pliant hamlet]

Gloom belt, Oriath's end are both farmable

[fossil mural]

Maybe its good

[karmic gust]

oriaths is very good

just needs some specific scaling but if you can get some generic one

whiuch you can

because you are using hubris

[fossil mural]

I am guessing with nebulis?

[karmic gust]

so you can just get spiritual aid minion damage

[fossil mural]

For global ele scaling

[karmic gust]

nebulis also works sure

or just ele damage clusters

[pliant hamlet]

wake me up when it takes less than 2 million blood to get a foulborn witchblood :<

[karmic gust]

eithe rway you have room for all of that

[frigid wedge]

its literally just profane bloom

[pliant hamlet]

I'll just be killing 4 sirus instead lol

[frigid wedge]

fair

[fossil mural]

Tbh I already leveled pf

And I want a binos build

[gleaming linden]

binos is dece

i just hate the damage wall of poison unless ur playing mamba

[fossil mural]

I really dont like low chance pops for clear

[rancid tendon]

what scarabs other than cornucopia doubling and monstrous lineage should i run for harvest

[frigid wedge]

its a jewel

get multiple

[karmic gust]

that + add some meds on top withe xplode

megalos

and its chill

[drowsy eagle]

@karmic gust do you have mamba build this league

[karmic gust]

if you want chaos explode

[autumn dawn]

mortal fragment

[karmic gust]

still bette rthan going dgshit occultist

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[pliant hamlet]

lol wow

[karmic gust]

i havev multiple :d

[frigid wedge]

honestly only appeal of chaos explode for me is the sounds

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/pf-nightgrip-mamba most meme one is this

but also most damage

[drowsy eagle]

sold

[native abyss]

my cyclone withering step sold

[frigid wedge]

wither scales em ok but ehhh

[native abyss]

[pliant hamlet]

🤔 What weapon you thinking on fire BV w/ gloom belt? I really want an excuse to play it, and transcendency Chieftan sounds fucking amazing

[karmic gust]

boom boom mace

maybe?

[pliant hamlet]

not nebulis?

[karmic gust]

do you need nebulis :d

i meanyou ca also get explody nebulis

i guess

not in ssf tho

xd

[frigid wedge]

replica nebulis is better if ur going single res anyways no?

[short prairie]

@split maple

[karmic gust]

but like

[noble sleet]

wasn't this chat saying gloom would be broken and no one thought it would actually roll on the shrine belt... lmao

[karmic gust]

minion pact gives you 120k flat phys

[pliant hamlet]

fucking hell how

[fossil mural]

Just gloom is bad

[short prairie]

this is the tree

[fossil mural]

You need a second good shrine

To be worth it

[karmic gust]

1400% health spectre

[pliant hamlet]

wtf spectre you using lol

meatsack?

[karmic gust]

and cheeky weapon swap

[fossil mural]

Meat flower

[karmic gust]

meatsack is dogshit

[frigid wedge]

isnt gloom belt literally like 40% non chaos as extra chaos

[fossil mural]

[opal ingot]

Xdd

[karmic gust]

even stoneskin flayeris better

[fossil mural]

What dex gem are you buffing

[opal ingot]

Is ur build 3 commas

[pliant hamlet]

that weapon looks fucking awful to make btw lol

[noble sleet]

wait what's the min level I need to be to use uhhh minion pact?

[pliant hamlet]

72

[gleaming linden]

interesting but why the boots

[karmic gust]

companionship

[gleaming linden]

what am i missing

[short prairie]

surely t1 crit multi right?

[fossil mural]

Wait its dex

[noble sleet]

wtfffff why so highhhh lmao. I was hoping to use it in campaign

[karmic gust]

you put this bad boi

to that bow

wep swap explode

wep swap back

[pliant hamlet]

how rare is eclipse

[short prairie]

WDFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[fossil mural]

2%

[short prairie]

T1 crit multi

[pliant hamlet]

it feels more rare than awakened empower

[short prairie]

WDFFFFFFFF

[karmic gust]

you dont even need the ecliupse there ngll

its hust funny

[pliant hamlet]

oh it is more rare than awakened empower lol

[fossil mural]

Wiki says 4% total for all 3 awakened ones

[pliant hamlet]

ah, slightly more common then

[split maple]

f u

[pliant hamlet]

o/ howdy esm

[short prairie]

[karmic gust]

defense

and some attack speed so mamba do not feels bad

[short prairie]

this is prob bis for SSF

[karmic gust]

not rly important to have them tho

really doesnt matter

[short prairie]

except my aspd is a little low

[karmic gust]

anyuway nice bow is ez to craft

with 2 delve mods +1 and +2 supp

[gleaming linden]

i got this from tree and 1 tapped the veiled exalt

[karmic gust]

so if you dont mind wep swap

then its pretty nice

[fossil mural]

I played bell eviscerate

[karmic gust]

and then you can have tiny little dude

[short prairie]

you lying, tree doesnt give weapon anymore

[pliant hamlet]

wtf spectre are you using lol

[karmic gust]

unholy abberation

a9 trrinity fight

the shit spiders

[pliant hamlet]

Lol what why does it have so much hp

[fossil mural]

Ggg forgor

[steep sphinx]

Why do so many ppl not use Animate Guard, its a great defensive and offensive gem which can quite literally debuff ur enemies to oblivion

Like geniuenly asking why

[karmic gust]

there are bunch of high health spectres

not this high

but like the corpse life limitation of 360% was only desecrate

[fossil mural]

Or just play marionette and chill

[karmic gust]

never applieed to spectres

[gleaming linden]

u right wait what am i talking about

[karmic gust]

as i said stoneskin flayer has 800%

[tawdry olive]

you see... if its a minion....

it dont exist to me

[karmic gust]

vs meatsack 700%

so meatsack is just trash

by default

[gleaming linden]

i gotta stop crafting high

[short prairie]

exposed

[steep sphinx]

Then we are opposites cuz I only play minion shi

[tawdry olive]

hey i respect that

[karmic gust]

yea this is also fine

probs enoug for like 99.99% content xd

[opal ingot]

Larping poe player smh smh

[pliant hamlet]

marionette has 288% 👀

[whole bluff]

In a lot of content it would probably just die without investment. Or if it wouldn't, people probably still assume it would. Plus you probably need to dedicate a link to making it tanky

[karmic gust]

like lvl 20 spectre with minon life linked is 5k flat phys

[fossil mural]

And if you miss or something

Its not bad

[karmic gust]

with nothing else at all

which is funny

[gleaming linden]

no ur right cause now im questioning myself cause i forgot where i got this

[karmic gust]

thats almost 2 times more than like 15k mana archmage

[pliant hamlet]

just never let BV fall off lol

or you deal 0 dps for the map

[fossil mural]

What about frostmage

[karmic gust]

yea

but like thats not hard

[pliant hamlet]

can't die either

true

[karmic gust]

you can die

the spectresrespawn in your hideout

[pliant hamlet]

wait spectres come back if you die?

[karmic gust]

so technically portals are enough

[pliant hamlet]

woah cool

[karmic gust]

only AG do not respanws in the instance at all

[tawdry olive]

wanting to commit to jugg str stack kb but then seeing the visions of grind ahead

[karmic gust]

but spectres are chill

[fossil mural]

Visions of grind sounds like a sick unique name

[karmic gust]

so even if you BV falls offalso

you can just portal out

and back in

or go to mirage i guess

[short prairie]

bis is essence 30 aspd + triple t1 ele + crit multi + veiled exalt crit stat

[pliant hamlet]

this is a 1.4m dps build from last league

that's actually disgusting lol

[tawdry olive]

replica visions of grind: opens grindr website each time you portal

[karmic gust]

its strong gem

[fossil mural]

I want a self ignite build

[pliant hamlet]

What's a more realistic number for a minion w/o janky swapping?

[fossil mural]

With it

[fossil mural]

3mil

Maybe 2.5

[pliant hamlet]

still 60-78m dps lol

What are you running in a "normal" setup? Just companion ship - minion life - Empower ?

[fossil mural]

Yea and glove/boot corrupt

[karmic gust]

or virids or idk

whatever you want that has some +levles

[pliant hamlet]

rare helmet with +2 levels ig?

[fossil mural]

Oh yea socketed mod

Works too

Corrupt is for uniques

[pliant hamlet]

ngl forgot viridis' had +2 level

[karmic gust]

just remember putting levels to companionship is almost as equally important as the spectre levels

[pliant hamlet]

problem with companionship is getting that stupid gem

Gonna spend a lot of time in 5 ways...

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[pliant hamlet]

oh fuck off, it's aukuna

[fossil mural]

Oh yea also the benefit of marionette

You actually get to use the dr portion

Which is nice

[lucid kiln]

is a 5way hard content?

[karmic gust]

but i dont want to

but yea fair thats nice beneefit

[fossil mural]

Whats the best ignite spell?

Thats not jank

[karmic gust]

death wish xd

[pliant hamlet]

unholly abberation is 1400%, Marionette is 288%, so that's...766k life?

that's still 20m dps

[fossil mural]

Discharge has high de

[pliant hamlet]

in this zdps build

Soulrend of Reap

[gleaming linden]

was gonna say flameblast but u went and said not jank D:

[karmic gust]

penance brand

but is also jank

[pliant hamlet]

The least janky highest damage DE spell is Soulrend of Reap afaik?

[fossil mural]

Does the prolif on the sword scale btw

Anyone know

[karmic gust]

wtd was saying something about uh

of revelations

also being decent

but its jank

[gleaming linden]

damaging ailments in poe1 are just super outdated honestly and need major reworks but

[karmic gust]

puriflame

[gleaming linden]

i cant see them doing it

[pliant hamlet]

190% DE w/ 150% more damage

[karmic gust]

well the rework they did to damaging ailmenst in poe2 made them lose all their identity

so hopefully they are not touching them :d

[pliant hamlet]

that's 475% DE

[karmic gust]

non damaging ailments in poe2 are rly nicely designed

[pliant hamlet]

surprisingly high

[karmic gust]

but bleed/ignite/poison are all the same and giga boring in poe2

[bright viper]

What if dot but to scale your dot you scale your hit damage

[fossil mural]

Better anyway, just separate scaling a bit

[karmic gust]

and i did not likekd the LE solution eitherr

to dots

it is somewhat interesting but its kinda scuffed

[gleaming linden]

can you see your trade logs on website

[fossil mural]

Wow

[bright viper]

What was the LE implementation again

[karmic gust]

dots have compeltely separate base damage

[pliant hamlet]

aight well, time to get back to farming 5-ways, apparently. I want this stupid companionship support lol

[karmic gust]

tied to dot itself

not skill at all

[pliant hamlet]

anyone know drop rate?

[karmic gust]

so only thing that matters is how fast you apply the dots

[neon veldt]

and more damage mults

[karmic gust]

or how synergistic is th skill tree for dots for skill

[fossil mural]

Oh yea I hated that shit

[neon veldt]

in LE, more damage multipliers on the skill itself worked for the dot they applied too

at least for time rot

[gleaming linden]

i like hit scaled ailments, they just need to change equation order for some things to reduce damage AFTER applying ailment damage

[neon veldt]

but yea, they just had base damage

[fossil mural]

All they really need to fix is crit

And dot nodes on the tree

Its better to use jewels for scaling and crit nodes

Than actual dot nodes

Thats horrible

[steep sphinx]

I also respect not using minions, they really can be a pain in the ass most of the time lmao. I play these builds bc I like necromancy as a whole, I play like this in every open world game I try

[fossil mural]

Nvm skysunder doesnt even work

With spells

Ig it might be better than fulcrum

Maybe

[gleaming linden]

i mean i see what they are doing but like i said shit like searing flame should reduce hit damage after the ailment scaling so it's not being counteracted

[neon veldt]

i have tried 1 minion build to actually push, it was in phrecia2 and it was herald of agony, shit was clunky asf even if it did bonkers damage

never again

fuck minions

[tough cove]

the problem is they have a fundamental misunderstanding of melee ignite

[slender adder]

has anyone tried making a build with the greater skeleton belt and dark pact? it was my first bait-starter ever back in harvest league i think? made me quit the game until kalandra league LOL

[neon veldt]

you cant target skele shrine minions i think??

[fossil mural]

Skelets arent your minions

Cant do shit with them

[slender adder]

how about just an updated dark pact build? haven't seen anyone do that in so long

it plays kinda like a clunkier version of hroc

[jolly bluff]

what bad can happen when I disable quest contracts?

[gleaming linden]

they really thought controlled blaze would fix melee ignite

[drowsy eagle]

you get a pop up

[fossil mural]

Yea skysunder can work. It has conversion

So dont need to play ele or dawn

[jolly bluff]

hmm?

you can force disable it with settings

[icy zinc]

Didn't pad enough with immortal calls

[jolly bluff]

it says it can seriously dmg filter

but no idea how it can dmg filter

[pliant hamlet]

it's a transcendent chieftan lol

[icy zinc]

10% nukes with 250% dmg brr

[fossil mural]

Damn trancendence looks cool

But man

Also have to fit in enmity

[pliant hamlet]

do you

that's 150m without enmity

[fossil mural]

Its not fun without

[pliant hamlet]

lmao

[native abyss]

guess i am gonna reroll flicker strike

[karmic gust]

you can legit also just go the impale gloves or some shit

and do chief BV impale

[icy zinc]

But man regex out less armour on map mods

[fossil mural]

With 3 woespikes

[pliant hamlet]

ima just go fire dmg lol

[fossil mural]

Pog

[icy zinc]

Lifestack grey wind cares about no defence ngl

No armour, Just big numbers under fortify, endurance, AA and flesh and stone

[fossil mural]

How do you fort as bv

[gleaming linden]

flesh and stone is goated

[fossil mural]

😩

[pliant hamlet]

mirrored t16s are so fucking cursed

[fossil mural]

4 10

Pog

[cosmic raptor]

first of the league

[icy zinc]

First

[fossil mural]

First?

[cosmic raptor]

yep

[icy zinc]

Now throw it on simplex

[fossil mural]

Surely more to follow

Right

[cosmic raptor]

for sure 100% absolutely no doubt

https://tenor.com/view/no-doubt-brooklyn99-b99-andy-samberg-gif-11062938

[gleaming linden]

20 sims in so far and no 1 passive voices

surely next sim

[steep sphinx]

Herald of Agony is like the absolute shittiest and least fun minion build, you should give Poison Animate Weapon of Ranged Arms from Helm Breaker a try, its goated

[icy zinc]

You need 500 simulacrums on average for 1 passive voices

Gl youll need it

[fossil mural]

How long does it take

To do one sim

[icy zinc]

15 waves?

Like 20 min

[gleaming linden]

herald of agony is an ancient hardcore build

[fossil mural]

I mean yea

[icy zinc]

Considering no crit immune bricks kosis and ways to deal with regen

[steep sphinx]

My guard has no gem buffs, it sits in my unset ring all alone and with 200c worth of gear (or less) it has 61k hp

[cosmic raptor]

i fall asleep first wave in simu

shit's boring af

[fossil mural]

Its for dad gamers

[halcyon flicker]

I thought it was just me that the burial chambers boss was wrecking my shit but it makes sense now lol

[karmic gust]

im surprsied how popular hoag got in phrecia2 its like everyone forgot that its the most stupid minion ever :d

[fossil mural]

Ggg should add an npc to defend to sims

[icy zinc]

Some build can auto right click first 10 waves

[gleaming linden]

you play with peripheral vision until round 12 basically

[icy zinc]

Spark and such

[cosmic raptor]

i thought it;s for china bots

[icy zinc]

In kingsmarch

[fossil mural]

You think they arent dads?

[icy zinc]

[cosmic raptor]

[fossil mural]

Trying to feed a family

[icy zinc]

Jolly... Reduce damage over time trending cause of vaal temptations

[gleaming linden]

sims are great for watching tv

[fossil mural]

Sims are great for quitting the game

[gleaming linden]

i have decent luck with 3 passives

[cosmic raptor]

gonna take my laptop in bed and do sims while watching tv

[icy zinc]

My failed attempts

[gleaming linden]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hello-elmo-rise-elmo-hell-gif-3989603362345473118

[fossil mural]

Poe2 sims are better, you can sit afk and craft there

[icy zinc]

I thought people do simulas day 3 to amass currency

[cosmic raptor]

yes

[fossil mural]

Trying to get 15%?

[icy zinc]

That one tiny ass corridor at wave 10

Getmeout

[gleaming linden]

laptop cooking with that comforter blocking the fan intake, trying to render 50 on deaths

[icy zinc]

Yeah

Closest i got was 14%

[fossil mural]

I wonder if 8% exlicit works

[icy zinc]

Listed for 32 div atm

[gleaming linden]

poe2 sims are pathetically easy

[icy zinc]

Didnt try

[fossil mural]

It should in theory bump from 14 to 15

[native abyss]

rich wtf

shout out faustus

[fossil mural]

And they nerfed them twice

So out of touch

[gleaming linden]

well .1 was not pathetically easy

[cosmic raptor]

bro share

[gleaming linden]

second nerf wasnt needed tho

[fossil mural]

Bro you have enough money to make a pof stacker

Go away

[cosmic raptor]

whats a pof

poof poof ?

[fossil mural]

I wanted to say poof

[gleaming linden]

penis on fire

[nova pivot]

My CPU ms in breach is 20-22 when things get heated, is there anything i can do?

[cosmic raptor]

nah i use protection

[cosmic raptor]

is it good?

[fossil mural]

When zerking?

Where you sticking that left hand boy

That you need protection

[fossil mural]

Turn off sounds

In config files

Or do some illegal edits

[drowsy eagle]

disable graphics and play with minimap

[gleaming linden]

you know the real answer bro

[cosmic raptor]

ill tell you

[fossil mural]

Here comes the mom joke

[cosmic raptor]

here comes

[gleaming linden]

(ur dad)

[cosmic raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/tickle-monster-jelly-gaku-yaotome-gaku-mikey-gif-1348111948591356340

[gleaming linden]

https://tenor.com/view/tickle-tickling-tickle-armpits-gif-18925761

[cosmic raptor]

😂

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-unus-annus-licking-lips-gif-25071588

[nova pivot]

I feel like my cpu is decent enough tho (AMD Ryzen 5 9600 6-Core 3.80 GHz)

[cosmic raptor]

its not your pc

not your cpu

[gleaming linden]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-markiplier-meme-markiplier-face-markiplier-api-appi-gif-13719754963932749824

[fossil mural]

The kEEng

[fossil mural]

It might be

Breach spawns a lot of mobs now

[dusky void]

is there a way to get frenzy charges at the start of a fight? weapon swapp etc i realy struggel at bosses with flicker to generate charge early have 6% chance to gain a frenzy on hit

[cosmic raptor]

nobody has good fps in breach

[fossil mural]

Cold snap worms

[rose quail]

Yeah, there is some meme potion.

[fossil mural]

Okay dont use that

Altho

[rose quail]

But really the easiest thing is just literally use Frenzy and whatever charges on kill

Poke someone with Frenzy to start and go zoom zoom

[gleaming linden]

mark mastery, sword mastery, blood rage with worms

[fossil mural]

Blast some worms

[gleaming linden]

quality on flicker

[dusky void]

already use mark but the other ones are not possible for me will try cold snap

[fossil mural]

Frenzy might be best tbh

[gleaming linden]

precursor emblem with chance to gain max frenzy

[native abyss]

im poor bro

[fossil mural]

Ask grok how to become rich

[gleaming linden]

best option tbh is farruls fur

[cosmic raptor]

lies

[dusky void]

yeah best option to destreye my whole build doesnt sound tempting

[autumn dawn]

get the resonating belt

[gleaming linden]

why do these options destroy your build

[fossil mural]

Frenzy is pretty easy to fit in tbh

Just hit mobs/boss

[gleaming linden]

are u running blunderbore + shrine belt

[fossil mural]

Couple times

[dusky void]

i loose 80% of my tank and dmg ephemeral edge

[native abyss]

u ever met a rich gambler?

[fossil mural]

Cold snap worms is safest

[cosmic raptor]

i want to see this

[gleaming linden]

oh ephemeral edge flicker?

yikes holy no attack speed scaling

[native abyss]

thats the wrong divine orb wtf

[cosmic raptor]

[fossil mural]

Its the bettet one

Look at that handsome face

[gleaming linden]

ya ya we played temple too

[fossil mural]

And then look at mister baldy over here

[dusky void]

?

[native abyss]

that is a much more handsome face i will admit

[fossil mural]

Literally made in image of shrimp chrillson

[cosmic raptor]

what temple, that's money from trading

[gleaming linden]

ephemeral edge can get strong hit damage but it has horrible crit and attack speed

[gleaming linden]

and why was there inflation

[cosmic raptor]

cuz of fubgan

[native abyss]

i cant wait for the next league where all posts are complaints from lack of dopamine cuz temple ruined them

[dusky void]

im nearly crit capped and 245% increased attack speed

[gleaming linden]

with way more effort, and that 245% attack speed is doing less cause your base is only 1.3

[dusky void]

corrupt can get 1.4 and what do you mean way more effort?

currently my build is super cheap 17div invest only

[tawdry olive]

oooooooo start pogging....

https://tenor.com/view/geladeira-gif-15096243982773393017

[gleaming linden]

weapon base attack speed is basically a more multiplier for dps

and flicker scales a lot of attack speed

so having a slow weapon feels bad unless you're running paradoxica with giga flat dmg

[surreal mulch]

how many frenzy charges do those farruls fur setups even make you btw?

per second

[dusky void]

yeah but do i need it no i wanna be tanky asf normal flicker builds are glass cannons not more than 10k phys max im already way over 20k phys max and have barly any invest

[gleaming linden]

you still use frenzy on hit mastery, it just gives you full frenzy regularly to keep you from running out

[surreal mulch]

oh that

but like surely there's a cap

compared to like oro

[gleaming linden]

replica farruls also keeps your endurance charges active without warcry or ralakesh

[tranquil dragon]

Are harvest beasts incredible rare this wipe i barely seen any in 20 maps

[gleaming linden]

just cause every flicker guide is glass cannon doesnt mean u need to be

[dusky void]

yeah thats why i go tri charge stacking tank

[gleaming linden]

i could rework my build for flicker right now and have 300k ehp and flicker through almost all content

[dusky void]

ehp is irrelevant

max hit is what counts

[cosmic raptor]

HOLYYYYYYYYYYY

[opal ingot]

wut da hell

[gleaming linden]

27k phys 76k ele isnt bad for a slayer

[opal ingot]

got rathpit when i started playing with rathpit

[cosmic raptor]

2 svalinns

[gleaming linden]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-tyson-nod-reverse-well-gif-24391188

ratpiss

[halcyon flicker]

we take those

[surreal mulch]

ok so you know how amulets have influenced mods of shaper and crusader that give you 2 max block chance of attack and same one for spell? why can't you just awakener orb them together? I searched that up on trade and there's not even a single one of them on standard

[dusky void]

im already higher ele max hit and nearly same phys i can get foritfy 20% more DR and i can get above 20k ES twice as tanky and thats without guard skill

[gleaming linden]

still gonna die first with no block or evasion

[frigid wedge]

that leech be LOW

[dusky void]

? no leech + regen with a watchers eye i can get 50% of my max ES per sec

[dusky void]

dmg atm is low currently saving for new jewel that will double my dps

[rocky glade]

Whats a good imbue for KB

Increased Critical Strike Damage ig?

[gleaming linden]

pob tells u

u can filter anoints by combined dps

[surreal mulch]

it's super annoying to set them all to 1

[surreal mulch]

power charge on crit is pretty good

[rocky glade]

No I already ran Resonating Shrine

[frigid wedge]

what jewel is doubling ur dps

undeniable?

[gleaming linden]

i assume he thinks es lom will double his dps

[frigid wedge]

cant think of anything with enough dps as a jewel otherwise

oh

bleh

[cosmic raptor]

kinetic black

[dusky void]

no elegant hubris with dmg per charge my current has no dmg only ES so i will go from 500% increased to 900% increased dmg

[surreal mulch]

didn't this league only add one unique jewel and it's heroic tragedy

[surreal mulch]

that's not new

oh sry I misread

lol

[autumn dawn]

i regret playing ephemeral edge its zdps

[hybrid harness]

wtf only 17% currency dupe chance but 2 out of 3 div and 1 frac orb still got duped

I think they flipped the numbers

[gleaming linden]

thats what im saying dude, low crit and low attack speed

just take the L on es and run energy blade

[autumn dawn]

i have high atk speed im not flicker tho

[gleaming linden]

you'd have higher

[dusky void]

early with low invest yes but its tanky

[autumn dawn]

rn i have 18k es

[autumn dawn]

is flicker the best skill for ephemeral edge??

[frigid wedge]

icl i cant believe they fucked over eblade so hard this league

[dusky void]

no

[gleaming linden]

its not really linked to a skill it just gives lightning for es

ephemeral edge is just energy blade with more emphasis on defense

[frigid wedge]

best way ive seen ee used is with molten strike

on glad

still zdps tho

[dusky void]

flicker is only good with alot of frenzy charges i have 14 so for me its the best dps skill

[autumn dawn]

trueee im also glad

[neon veldt]

Or cws, just afk the first 10 waves, and for waves 11-15 you just need to curse kosis and omi with penance mark and just afk and let them kill themselves

[frigid wedge]

frenzy of onslaught would like to know your location

[surreal mulch]

if a l21q20 gem costs 5+ times more than an uncorrupted l20q20 gem,isn't it relatively clean profit to buy them all and just vaal orb them?

[autumn dawn]

are you using the shrine belt?

[gleaming linden]

you can make ephemeral edge hit hard, but you will lose out on other stats because of how much crit you have to build

[frigid wedge]

ee is only really good on rt setups

or good accuracy anyway

crit ee isnt worth it

[dusky void]

its worse dps you have to get min frenzy charges which would be 3 jewel sockets so no its a dps loos outside of pob

[dusky void]

yes

[gleaming linden]

yeah if ur ci just try and get precise tech

or rt

[frigid wedge]

wouldnt even bother with pt unless ur aegis

[vast dove]

Extra damage against chilled, but I make them brittle, do I still get extra dmg?

[frigid wedge]

wrong message

[dusky void]

pt?

[autumn dawn]

EE + Resolute Technique is like 50d+

[surreal mulch]

do you have a source of "can't inflict chill" anywhere?

[frigid wedge]

precise technique is too far out of the way unless ur pathing down to iron reflexes on ee builds

[vast dove]

Yup jewel. Instead of chilled, make them brittle etc

[dusky void]

? slayer gets 8 base crit

[neon veldt]

If you cannot chill enemies, then nope

[frigid wedge]

doesnt mean its worth doing

[gleaming linden]

at the cost of a more valueable ascend

[storm marsh]

any opinions on this helmet or should i switch to something like the 2nd pic?

[dusky void]

clearly worth it

[vast dove]

Hmm but what about if im using skitterbots? Do they brittle instead too?

[surreal mulch]

technically no

[gleaming linden]

you basically HAVE to take brutal fervor and headsman

[surreal mulch]

you can chill with skitterbots yes

[neon veldt]

Hmmm, not sure about skitterbots

[surreal mulch]

despite secrets of suffering

[dusky void]

why?

[gleaming linden]

because overleech is goated, and so is 20% cull

[frigid wedge]

thas bc ur building into it already and you have FOURTEEN POWER CHARGES

[vast dove]

Aah then nicee Ty for the info guys

[frigid wedge]

just do what most flickers do and forbidden a 5th slayer node

[dusky void]

i use perfect forest warrior he gives normal cull

[surreal mulch]

cull is overrated

[gleaming linden]

ew spectre on slayer

[neon veldt]

I have imbued lv 1 cull, it is super nice when i have no other way to get cull

[dusky void]

spectres are broken theyre so ez to include just a 4 link and i get wrath lucky dmg onslaught and cull

[surreal mulch]

(I'm playing a dot build )

[autumn dawn]

whats the best AG setup for my ee glad

i have 4 empty sockets

[surreal mulch]

ag is significantly squishier

[forest drift]

is there anything wrong with this?

[surreal mulch]

than spectres

so he's less free

[gleaming linden]

i dont really like running support minions on my melee builds

[dusky void]

perfect spirit of fortune and perfect forest warrior

[frigid wedge]

not really

[gleaming linden]

even if some spectres are good

[surreal mulch]

the font and overpaying for warcry on an es build

[frigid wedge]

u lose out on defences from it

[dusky void]

but you need an automation convocation setup aswell

[gleaming linden]

in his case, hes benefitting from lucky damage using ephemeral edge cause its base dmg minimum is 1

[karmic gust]

spirit of fortune is so dumb tanky i had no idea until i had to run it this league :d

funny spectre

[forest drift]

defences from where

[karmic gust]

rest of the special spectres are pretty squish tho

[autumn dawn]

ahh but im using voice of the storm

[dusky void]

yeah my spectres with empower life meat shield and convocation didnt die a single time

[gleaming linden]

so because of ephemeral edge having already tiny min damage he can run volatility and lucky damage

[frigid wedge]

ur replacing 300 to 400% local inc defences with mana as extra es

[surreal mulch]

every time I hear spirit of fortune I can't hold it in

[autumn dawn]

thats actually cool

[forest drift]

i want the foulborn actually

its for my build

[frigid wedge]

are u gonna bust

[crisp obsidian]

@karmic gust i might have made like 200d with bv imbues xddd

[frigid wedge]

then it's fine

[signal marten]

any build recommendations for ssf with big boom clear and decent boss damage??

[surreal mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/china-money-smile-blessing-god-gif-11424213571694975890

[karmic gust]

lmao

[crisp obsidian]

I might be able to build it now

[autumn dawn]

but idk what to do with my empty sockets maybe ill run some ag setup

[surreal mulch]

this is what I envision spirit of fortune as

[karmic gust]

apparently sublime ice keeps going up

for whatever reason

[gleaming linden]

yeah its pretty common for a lot of lightning builds and alberon's str stackers

[frigid wedge]

which colour

[cosmic raptor]

No

[crisp obsidian]

Red

[karmic gust]

idk whos using it even

[crisp obsidian]

Idk if it's still profitablep

[forest drift]

i need it to have 6 blue sockets it has 5 how many tainted would i need?

[frigid wedge]

some

[surreal mulch]

imbue is gambling and I hate gambling so I sell all my coins

[crisp obsidian]

Zzzz ofc

[autumn dawn]

should i ag setup or general's cry autoexert

[crisp obsidian]

Goddamn other players

[karmic gust]

im just gonna do melding and chill

i think

comparable defense

[frigid wedge]

its corrupted, its not too hard to colour

[karmic gust]

and the build has so many free affixes anyway

[surreal mulch]

ag and spectre are two different skills btw

[karmic gust]

and then sublime ice later

[crisp obsidian]

Yeah

Just -res hurts more right

[frigid wedge]

i need to imbue some storm rains i think

[surreal mulch]

ag is in my experience a lot harder to keep alive

[gleaming linden]

i just run smite instead of bothering with a minion

[karmic gust]

yea

[crisp obsidian]

Well

[gleaming linden]

if i need a dmg boost i just press smite, or vaal if i have it

[crisp obsidian]

I guess only specific -res and pen hurts more

[surreal mulch]

I haven't once seen any of my spectres actually die but ag dying happened a few times

[crisp obsidian]

Right

[karmic gust]

yea

[dark kite]

hit lv94 on the rf chief last night, feeling surprisingly squishy but im also not quite done with gear so shrug

[crisp obsidian]

I don't even want to check support gem prices atm

[forest flower]

rf chief is fun

[surreal mulch]

I wish there was a minion support that made them dodge damage in exchange for not dealing damage

[autumn dawn]

oh thats true i should try that

[gleaming linden]

autoexert generals cry is cool but ends up eating hella gem slots

[autumn dawn]

i think i have enough

[gleaming linden]

so it becomes the whole build to make it optimal

[nova pivot]

Do you guys play with Vulkan or DX12?

[crisp obsidian]

Oh only 14d uncorrupted

[forest flower]

i played it last league, should've made the push to 100 instead of sitting at 99 lol

[karmic gust]

vulkan, but mostly because of linux

[gleaming linden]

you can generals cry blade flurry and they use all stages and release

unless that was nerfed

[karmic gust]

bu that will be solved soon too there is already nvidia beta driver with dx12 fix

[autumn dawn]

i was using it earlier it actually speed up some uber fights

[cloud shale]

im still getting rich 3c at the time by selling wand bases 😄
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1299900391550484491/1484498234415251606/image.png?ex=69be7237&is=69bd20b7&hm=3d72f1594b40bb32761f5706c48c21be7224b216114f339fd452b7dd2021abf8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[surreal mulch]

I wish I could mute warcries

[autumn dawn]

i have nothing to do with my empty sockets

[neon veldt]

Aul

[gleaming linden]

mark on hit, automation guard, movement skill, auras

[autumn dawn]

im already 3rd ring

[forest flower]

enduring cry is also nice

[surreal mulch]

I can't believe we are doing automation guard now. back in my day we did cwdt guard

[cloud shale]

bruv

[surreal mulch]

talking to them is the most fun part of heist

[neon veldt]

Yea, but nowdays you cant socket lv1 cwdt into a lv20 guard

[forest flower]

we used to be able to run immortal call + enduring cry 😔

[cloud shale]

😭

[gleaming linden]

back in my day, immortal call actually made u immortal

[surreal mulch]

vaal

[neon steppe]

funny that mirrored items retain their relative value so well aslong as its a common item

[forest flower]

i remember the "for science" memes

[cloud shale]

i think cat quest soon

[neon steppe]

i think some people are scared of mirror service i got to sell mine for basically the exact price of just mirroring it

[autumn dawn]

i could use some marks but as i said ee is so zdps i need damage i prioritise damage over guards

[frigid wedge]

what the actual fuck is this

https://pobb.in/FKG8afWekXew

[gleaming linden]

its not fear, its being able to obtain an item 95% as powerful for half the cost

mirroring weapons is usually a waste of currency

[cloud shale]

what unique about it?