1┃general

[finite quail]

or maybe it was exerted attacks?

[zealous flax]

Anyone know how to search for armour on Poe ninja

[finite quail]

wdym line up

[tranquil umbra]

yeah I wouldn't combine these

you get so much fucking ms

[spice pecan]

i have gull too xdd

[gritty garnet]

so you get the boost on the last repeat

[tranquil umbra]

it's actually nauseating

[finite quail]

oh def not

[tranquil umbra]

even with lesser accel from gull

[proud gorge]

my hourglass is, like, 80% in the mirage guys

is this dust safe

[finite quail]

oh my fucking god

[short prairie]

Steelskin spotted

[finite quail]

I've been running with a warcry mastery for like

the last 4 levels

and I stopped using warcries

[kindred silo]

holy hammers isn't a slam

[finite quail]

[final owl]

man unstable breach mirages with beyond get kinda wild.

[finite quail]

4 fucking points

I could have used for more life

[hexed egret]

Oh the hammer portion isn't a slam?

[finite quail]

[gritty garnet]

it's something you'd have to check the aoe for in-game

[dark kite]

hmm, whats a good map layout for breaches that still gets good coverage from mirages?

[proud gorge]

yeah, I realized yesterday that automation steelskin is surprisingly actually really good on this build

[finite quail]

say that again?

[proud gorge]

it normally sucks

but in this one specific build its actually really useful

[opal ingot]

https://youtu.be/6tS4mxgLPeM?si=HtBOs6-kPEGaYDlb

Lmao it got nerfed while steel was explaining the strat xd

[hexed egret]

Maybe the hammer that drops isn't a slam?

I got no idea

[gritty garnet]

are you using it with +1 ring and can't get bleed removal on flasks?

[proud gorge]

also, wild that Black Barya is like a div. I'm gonna run it anyways though, wish me luck

see what I get out of it

[hexed egret]

Maybe you get a 20 mirror belt

[rose quail]

Or a 1c belt

[hexed egret]

Dust belt you mean

It's like 100k

[proud gorge]

I said at the start of the league that I wanted to farm a random 2-shrine belt

and then I'd build a build around whatever 2-shrine belt I got

[rose quail]

Bit pricey when you can get 700k for like 50c

[icy swan]

why this breach is soo dog shit ?

[low sparrow]

mfw chasing down gold volatiles without a quicksilver or movement skills

[hexed egret]

I mean people should just dust it instead of placing it in their store for 1c

[proud gorge]

so I'm excited to get some weird belt combo

[hexed egret]

It's so meaningless

[rose quail]

1c is 1c.

260 belts and you recoup a run

[wheat epoch]

can someone help me wtf is this

[finite quail]

why dont you have a quicksilver or movement skills

[wheat epoch]

do i have to use those expesnive astrolabes

[finite quail]

what sort of dark hideous path do you have to walk down to not have movement skills

[trail thunder]

Is there a way to get these build versions from poeninja? the ones greyed out. or are they lost forever?

[zealous flax]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[finite quail]

even ruthless players get a movement skill

[oblique ember]

i refuse to believe people actually get stuff from lavish gifts

[finite quail]

i punch the baby sacks open

[wheat epoch]

wtf does t hs do

[oblique ember]

ive opened like 100+ and best thing ive gotten was a stack of ancients or something

[zealous flax]

Ive gotten probably 20 divs from the currency ones

[finite quail]

do it and find out

[oblique ember]

i dont even think ive had a tink from them

[low sparrow]

I have withering step on automation, and it screws up the CD of most movement skills

[hexed egret]

Yeah because it's a movement skill too

[finite quail]

glorious 9link earthshatter

[hexed egret]

That's normal

[finite quail]

use cooldown-less movement skills bro

[low sparrow]

I know. I was explaining why I dont have a movement skill

[finite quail]

leap slam, whirling blades, wintry

shield charge

cmon

[zealous flax]

I wanna cook up a ground slam, ignite prolif build with cheiftin explode

[finite quail]

vaal ground slam

[zealous flax]

But scaling I'm struggling to think of

[hexed egret]

Actually why is no holy hammer build on ninja using fist of war

[zealous flax]

Apart from loads of life

[hexed egret]

I'm getting confused

Is it not worth it

[zealous flax]

Embued probably

[hexed egret]

The most popular imbue is Pcoc

Which makes sense

You want to constantly generate power charges

[zealous flax]

Oh right

[hexed egret]

Fist of war probably not good for clear?

Hmmmm

[finite quail]

it gives more aoe

every 1.8 secs

[full kraken]

guys I died in delve and now my character is just fuckin lying there, I think he broke his ankle

[finite quail]

like 90% more aoe

no sorry

[hexed egret]

I can attack faster than that even though I have no attack speed nodes

[finite quail]

60% inc aoe

[full kraken]

I cant move or do anything, my dude is just fuckin... lying there

[finite quail]

/hideout

or disconnect

[full kraken]

I think he might have had a stroke

[pure arch]

void map, but instead of void they just floortank

[rose quail]

He just taking a nap after all that horror

[finite quail]

he's taking a nap cause you made him run twisters

[rose quail]

Protesting against the corpa treatment

[full kraken]

the best part is the twisters are still spawning

[zealous flax]

Wake the fuck up samurai

[pure arch]

is twisters still workable after they gave it a cooldown

i haven't played it since

[full kraken]

its gotten enough buffs its arguably at its strongest its ever been

[pure arch]

sweet

should be trivial to reduce buff duration rn

you have a pob?

[lucid kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/koshitan-dead-yamcha-ded-death-pose-gif-14904581299271759992

[stoic vigil]

is there any way to look for tier of affix?, manually looking for t1 it's pain

[finite quail]

no

[full kraken]

I just fuckin spit take'd

[stoic vigil]

sad

[tawdry olive]

the kinda of horrors you subject them to.... id react the same

[full kraken]

its from last league, the imbued supports shifted stuff a bit so we can fit more stuff in, but we lost grafts so its a bit of give and take

https://pobb.in/QX8SzpFkyQD6

[tawdry olive]

some builds massively affected by losing awakened gems, like the poison types

[zealous flax]

Mamba is fine

[tawdry olive]

also we no longer have free ele reflect immunity on awaked EWDA

[tawdry olive]

nah not mamba specifically

[full kraken]

yeah that hurt us a bit, but new runes might be a big deal, we got a 50% inc dmg rune

You can see my current progress on my current char here
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/SteffenBlake-0084/characters?characterName=LeSixcanHasArrived

[hexed egret]

Man I love holy hammer with cold convert

[tawdry olive]

i think there's some that used awakened void manip, awakened swift affliction, and even more, like 4 or 5 awakened gems 6 linked

[zealous flax]

Oh ?

[full kraken]

in particular I have cyclone and plague bearer imbued so I get +2 gem sockets

[hexed egret]

So comfy

[pure arch]

thanks, I'll take a gander

[low sparrow]

Wintry idea was cool. Thanks. My char is an ultimatum-blight afker so I have a bunch of defensive flasks and no quicksilver. I'm cool with it

[mystic socket]

how do i get a beast as a spectre

[hexed egret]

Yeah 50/50

[mystic socket]

kill it in menagerie

[full kraken]

fuck I think I might be dead lol

thats it, seems league is over for me

[mystic socket]

what happened

[pure arch]

game decided you're HC now

but instead of going to standard the character just lies there for the rest of the league where they died

floor league

[full kraken]

I died in delve and when I respawned my char just... sayed dead on the ground and couldnt move

#1┃general message

[proud gorge]

aw, didn't get the belt from Saresh

got the staff instead

[hexed egret]

The belt was gonna be trash anyway

[proud gorge]

yeah but I wanted a trash belt

so I could use it on a weird-ass belt-specific build

[hard cliff]

Starting new charecter time to finally play slayer

Going slayer bleed slam

[ebon palm]

does map IIQ affect Legion or I should just run it white?

[hard cliff]

If anyone has played advice is appreciated

following a guide from reddit 😩

https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1rkrmk1/bleed_slams_slayer_revamped_build_guide_phazeplays/

[golden moat]

can we just remove soul eater lol

[worldly bridge]

dies randomly while farming exp in beyond breach "why did i die random- oh thats why"

[hard cliff]

New Mod Soul Aten

Starts at max soul eater stacks

loses 1% debuff per second when hit once per second

[short prairie]

dude, moten strike jewel here

[worldly bridge]

zenith doesnt use 1h does it?

[wheat epoch]

can someone tell me what the break points for this was

[proud gorge]

that was a very fast hotfix. Last time it took a weekend, but I guess this time it happened mid-week

so they just hotfixed it immediately

[thick goblet]

13 and 25 for tailwind

[wheat epoch]

so the second breakpoint is 25

got it

what about elusive does that even matter

[thick goblet]

not as much as tailwind

[stuck phoenix]

It is also just maths

Poe truncates

[short prairie]

normal molten

[worldly bridge]

oh

weird

ii actually dont know how standard molten works

it just spawns balls?

[short prairie]

work like msoz but without the 5th hit dealing massive damage

literally the same

[worldly bridge]

why are all transfig melee gems just "thing but 2 handed and also more damage"

[short prairie]

idk

ask ggg xd

[tawdry olive]

hey have you considered bonk big stick good

bonk good

big stick good

[worldly bridge]

i ahve

[tawdry olive]

more number go up good

[worldly bridge]

but also like

come on we cna be more creative than this

[short prairie]

[tawdry olive]

i was pretty deep into this skill at one point, and yes it just works like a consistent msoz

[wheat epoch]

2 in 1

[tawdry olive]

this was the skill i first winged into finishing 4 stones back in 3.24

before that i had been endlessly mucking around the campaign for years

[wheat epoch]

HUH

is this any good ayo

[spare ore]

gambling paid off

[short prairie]

4 crit mods

wait nvm

[stray sedge]

jfc im hooked, I finally used my currency to buy the acceleration shrine belt + gull helm, and now I'm finding ways of using blunderbore lmao

[short prairie]

last one isnt crit

[opal ingot]

Is for me?

[hard cliff]

not good

[stray sedge]

Y'ALL GOT ANY MORE OF THAT ACTION SPEED

[drowsy eagle]

we need another bloodline asc

+1 belt slot cannot use body armor xd

[tranquil umbra]

tailwind

[finite quail]

wait, doesnt the gull make acceleration shrine give 87.5% action speed instead of 50%

holy moly

[tranquil umbra]

yes

[drowsy eagle]

what skill you playing

[pliant hamlet]

Do we know where the refracting fog drops from?

[tranquil umbra]

mirage deli

[stray sedge]

cold snap of power

[pliant hamlet]

from what though

[finite quail]

yo wait, the gull with volatile vaal orb for 100% increased shrine effect for 2 charges from resonating shrine instead of 1

[pliant hamlet]

boss, trash, reward?

[finite quail]

or is 1.22 not enough to get 100%

[drowsy eagle]

does it need action speed?

[tranquil umbra]

only goes to like 90

[finite quail]

then resonating + greater x shrine

[pliant hamlet]

91.5 should be the max, so 91

[stray sedge]

99% of things need action speed 🙂

[finite quail]

for the missing shrine effect

[tranquil umbra]

yeah that works

[finite quail]

holy

[pulsar ice]

minions are not 1%

[finite quail]

flicker slayer eating well

[stuck phoenix]

Everything except unstackable dot wants action speed, well, and I guess the wait x seconds to hit hard things

[stray sedge]

same with slam builds for the most part

[stuck phoenix]

They want it too. It's just harder to put on there

Same with totems

Traps

Mines

Mirages

Wisps

I could go on

[drowsy eagle]

I think I'm gonna sell my build to make a tornado shot acceleration

mageblood sucks

[tranquil umbra]

I was planning on doing cons path honestly

the third ring slot is really funny because it lets me use 3 kaom's signs

[fluid saffron]

Lore question: In Conquerors of the Atlas, did the events that led to the sealing of the elder take place before you slayed the beast in act 4? They must have, right?

[hard cliff]

Chris lied to us

[tawdry olive]

me when i find out ghostwrithe life->es mod ignores altar frenzy charge reduced defences mod

god i love POE wording

[hard cliff]

https://streamable.com/e0cu4x

attack speed feeling good

[final owl]

noice. Aul is a chump

[ebon palm]

What happen to Legion? I used to get 4 monoliths and now I only get 2 per map

[pulsar ice]

Comparing to what? Phrecia?

[final owl]

36m reap 44m vaal reap. pew pew

[ebon palm]

to Keepers iirc

[hard cliff]

beast

[sly oracle]

Hi, would like to ask whether Spiritual Aid will give you movement speed from Ravenous Horde??
SA: Increases and Reductions to Minion Damage also affect you
RH: Minions have 30% increased Movement Speed

[hard cliff]

more scarabs

[hard cliff]

No that's movement speed not damage

[sly oracle]

oh.. yeah just realized it says minion damage.. I thought it says increased and reductions to minions also affect you

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/school-time-to-learn-adventure-time-library-gif-2793675173788410203

[final owl]

now it is time for proper farming i suppose.

[ebon palm]

I used all 3 legion scarab except the last one that makes monolith breakable repeated times

[tawdry olive]

me: "hmm... what am i gonna do about gold before i can do juiced blight..."
mirage league: "i gotchu"

[hard cliff]

hey I know why

map device

[dark kite]

in the last 3 hours ive gone from level 67 to 87 lol

[hard cliff]

are you Samoan

[final owl]

decidedly not haha.

[wintry lily]

damn, mathil back at his 2k hp era

[final owl]

he doesn't like being too tanky

[dark kite]

got myself a nice reservation/life on block shield, nebulis, +1 gems helm...tomorrow i aim for level 91 or so and look at achieving my final form

[hard cliff]

Samoan Joe

https://tenor.com/view/samoa-joe-schmoney-dance-aew-dynamite-wrestling-gif-25491356

[jagged raven]

joined someone for gold leech and he was doing breach
so much gold omg, was it just cuz of quant and size?

[wintry lily]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Suspend_in_Time @karmic gust sands of time hexblast?

[finite quail]

cooldown

[worldly bridge]

i got two unrelenting emblems to drop while doing my challenge and i accidentally used them

[finite quail]

unless hexblast of havoc

[worldly bridge]

because the device auto completes the fragments

-210c

[finite quail]

ouch

[worldly bridge]

oh well

ive never dropped an unrelenting emblem so

[wintry lily]

yes

[worldly bridge]

basically didnt exist anyway for me

[wintry lily]

Anything to make it work

[drowsy eagle]

rarity bot

[wintry lily]

even tho havoc is omega giga ass

[hard cliff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rxjegb/the_rarest_belt_is_worth_1200_mirrors/

[pulsar ice]

hmm, do I want to gamba fracture it?

[finite quail]

duh

frac orbs are like 1 div

go for it

[tranquil umbra]

less than 1d

it's kinda crazy

[jagged raven]

gold scales with rarity?

[pulsar ice]

unfractured is 6div, fractured is 27div. Doesn't really make sense to risk it if the expected value pretty much equals what I already have

[warped sonnet]

did they remove damage while leeching craft?

or am i just blind

[finite quail]

ya

[finite quail]

blind

[jagged raven]

okie

[worldly bridge]

ok so everytime i do legion im like hell yeah lets make kboc

and then i remember i have to manually price check every timeless jewel

[warped sonnet]

tried to search it for the rings, no wonder could not find it lol

I honestly have no idea how endgame farming works currently. I have been doing ritual only for the past 3 years and everything else feels bad which sucks.

[worldly bridge]

what

how do i check a specific jewel

this is impossible

[tranquil umbra]

type the number

[worldly bridge]

where

theres no BOX

[tranquil umbra]

click edit

[finite quail]

https://vilsol.github.io/timeless-jewels/tree

[worldly bridge]

wdym click edit

i already checked this

maybe i missed something

[tranquil umbra]

yeah see that

now delete the range part

type in the desired number in place of the numerical range

and voila

[rose quail]

You can also just ctrl+c and ctrl+v as new item from both trade and game

[short prairie]

never use this

use pob timeless jewel search instead

[worldly bridge]

this is so laggy

why is it so laggy

[finite quail]

wdym?

[finite quail]

why exactly

[worldly bridge]

i can barely pan the screen around

[tranquil umbra]

yeah that one is pretty good if you are not doing impossible escape shenanigans

[finite quail]

are you doing it on a phone or something

or a craptop

cause its not laggy at all for me

[rose quail]

https://github.com/Vilsol/timeless-jewels Last update 4 months ago. When updated it's way behind. Basically chances are it's wrong

[short prairie]

for example if you want rage on hit and sort the rest by dps

[worldly bridge]

my pc cost 2k usd its not shit

[surreal musk]

this isnt that useful for price ch ecking them ttho

[tranquil umbra]

?

[short prairie]

?

[finite quail]

ah

[surreal musk]

ur not gonna manually do that for every jewel u get ..

[short prairie]

excuse me

[tranquil umbra]

there is literally a "trade search link" button

[finite quail]

well idk whats wrong with your pc but mine runs the website just fine

[surreal musk]

i know there is lol

its useful for finding ones for your ubild

[worldly bridge]

thats weird because the tree is updated

unless ggg has an API for that, that is bein used

[lapis geode]

what

[worldly bridge]

this is too much work

im just gonna

not check them

[finite quail]

what didnt you understand

[finite quail]

mika

you know you can just like

awakened poe trade it

right

[worldly bridge]

i know, but i also know that searching for hyper specific values skyrockets the price of items

[lapis geode]

what is ehit Slayer ?

[finite quail]

elemental hit is the skill, slayer is one of the ascendancies for the duelist

[lapis geode]

ohhh im using summoner

[worldly bridge]

ok but the problem here is that searching for a specific value makes everything look expensive

[tranquil umbra]

dawg timeless jewels are completely different if the number changes by 1

[worldly bridge]

thats

my point

[finite quail]

mika its one value

[tranquil umbra]

and?

[worldly bridge]

im like

[finite quail]

and it compeltely dictates whats on it

[worldly bridge]

idk what you guys arent getting 😭

[finite quail]

you dont search for timeless jewels on a wide range of values

you search the specific seed

[worldly bridge]

some builds want certain notables to have certain modifiers correct?

[finite quail]

or you sell them all at the same price

[worldly bridge]

so they dont care what the other ones are

[finite quail]

so you either pricecheck every single one for the specific seed, or dump em in a bulk sell tab

[tranquil umbra]

well guess what the function in pob does
it searches all the specific values that have the certain modifiers you want
they are still specific values

[proud gorge]

I accidentally replied to you instead of ghost, who was asking about ehit slayer. But also I'm surprised to see you replying to a message from yesterday

[worldly bridge]

WOAHHGHHAHA guys my ring is 2 div!!!!_!!1

[lapis geode]

actually i just feels like my exp so slow but im to strong like just spamming ragging spirit the boss died but I just got very little exp

[finite quail]

MIKA THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS FOR TIMELESS JEWELS

[proud gorge]

bosses don't give a lot of xp yeah

[tranquil umbra]

^^^^^

are you like actually stupid

[void oasis]

yo wtf?

[finite quail]

Mika stop baiting

[worldly bridge]

holy shit my gloves are one of kind they must be mirror tier

[proud gorge]

if you want a lot of XP, you need to do something that shoves a ton of enemies into a level 16 map

[lapis geode]

should i just do all quest first

[grizzled saffron]

I'm a timeless jewel

[finite quail]

leave hideout and re enter

[void oasis]

why? cant i use div scarab of the cloister?

[void oasis]

ty

[proud gorge]

very much yes

[worldly bridge]

im not baiting i just think your suggestion is silly idk

[finite quail]

dont bother with overlevelling

[tranquil umbra]

how is it silly

[finite quail]

simply do the quests and advance in the story

[worldly bridge]

i must be idk

because i dont get what youre syaing

[tranquil umbra]

that's just how timeless jewels work mika

they are SEEDED

[dark sequoia]

I tried making an impale somatic shell warden

[warped sonnet]

mika we also do not get what you are saying

[tranquil umbra]

you NEED specific values

[worldly bridge]

ive been taught since the day i started playing to not search for EXACT values

[tranquil umbra]

or it's USELESS

[grizzled saffron]

Mika try with algebra

[worldly bridge]

but cant multiple seeds have the valuable notables

[tranquil umbra]

NO

[worldly bridge]

?????

[tranquil umbra]

well yes

[grizzled saffron]

Wym no

[tranquil umbra]

that's the fucking point

of the calculator

USE IT

[grizzled saffron]

Change teacher asap

[finite quail]

the reason you search the specific number on timeless jewels is because simply adding one or subtracting one can completely change the value of the timeless jewel, because the value is a SEED for what modifiers the notables get on the tree, so you HAVE to search for the SPECIFIC SEED the timeless jewel you have HAS, because if you search for ANYTHING ELSE, you get a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TIMELESS JEWEL

[lapis geode]

i alrd clear 5 trial i need one more, i search gpt said i need to go imperial gardens, do u know where is it

[worldly bridge]

like if all i care about is rage on hit as long as the jewel hits the passives im pathing to then the seed doesnt matter past that

[warped sonnet]

you get exact nodes with exact values, with different values the nodes are different. You can filter/search nodes on pob calculator

[worldly bridge]

as long as it hits a specific notable and changes it to rage on hit

[finite quail]

stop using ai slop for answers on poe bro

its gonna lie to you

[tranquil umbra]

that is exactly what the fucking jewel searcher does mika oh my god

[lapis geode]

but its not

[proud gorge]

don't use chatgpt what?

[worldly bridge]

dont use AI

[proud gorge]

its literally lying to you right now

[lapis geode]

real?

[steel light]

https://poe.re/#/maps anyone has other regex site than this? it's missing rare monsters volatile core regex

[finite quail]

Dont use it

[hexed egret]

https://youtu.be/VCh4QIm8vDE?si=_P1NiemNu-QDMMZ-

[lapis geode]

he said go to hedge maze

[hexed egret]

Legit cool

Arc in 2026

[worldly bridge]

just go to the wiki

[worldly bridge]

dont call it a he

just use the wiki

[grizzled saffron]

Arc back?

[warped sonnet]

poe is one of the games you can't trust AI at all

[finite quail]

Please just use the wiki instead bro

[tranquil umbra]

why the fuck are you using AI for a video game brah

[grizzled saffron]

Budget?

[hexed egret]

Yes

[lapis geode]

😭

[tranquil umbra]

AI is horrendous for video games

[grizzled saffron]

What this is viable too

[worldly bridge]

ok are you in campaign?

[grizzled saffron]

Wait what

[lapis geode]

whats the keyword

[finite quail]

PLEASE I'm BEGGING you to use the wiki

[hexed egret]

Woke Chain actually elevates the skill

[void oasis]

reset my game everything why is this still not working>

[lapis geode]

what is campaign mean

[grizzled saffron]

You're planning to make one?

[worldly bridge]

campaign, act 1-10

[hexed egret]

Not sure

[finite quail]

talk to helena, change hideout, change back to original hideout, try again

[hexed egret]

I'm still doing my hammer build

[finite quail]

also take out all scarabs and put them back in

[lapis geode]

im on act 3 and wanna do the last one trial ascn , the hedge maze thing

[finite quail]

or open a map without scarabs, then try again

[proud gorge]

AIs get worse and more inaccurate the more specific your question is, so they're pretty much never even vaguely accurate on specifics of a video game, but despite this they'll just say things that look vaguely like they could be accurate to someone who doesn't understand the thing they're talking about, resulting in it very confidently spouting some complete and utter bullshit.

[spice pecan]

so look around sceptre of god and find it

[lapis geode]

sceptre of god?

[spice pecan]

yes, the zone

[worldly bridge]

ok so youre probably missing hte final trial, go to the imerpial gardens and look for it

its not sceptre of god it is in the imperial gardens

[void oasis]

still not working wtf

[warped sonnet]

@lapis geode https://www.poelab.com/trial-locations/

[spice pecan]

oh yeah wait

[proud gorge]

if you need a campaign guide, go look up a poe campaign guide

[spice pecan]

imperial gardens, not sceptre

[lapis geode]

thx

[proud gorge]

but by god don't use AI

[worldly bridge]

please do not use ai

for anything video game related

[lapis geode]

no problem

[dark sequoia]

it's funny seeing how inaccurate it is

[rose quail]

Eh. Not exactly like that. Thing is the effort to provide the context and create the prompt for a complex question simply is harder than just looking it up yourself.

[full kraken]

its weird how the flame half was like... 7x the cost of the flesh half

3div vs ~20div

[proud gorge]

did you hear the case of the CEO who asked the AI how to void a 120 million dollar contract, fired his entire legal team, and then unsurprisingly lost the court case when he employed made up tactics dreamed up by an AI

[dark sequoia]

Is anybody going vaal burning arrow slayer with lioneye bow and hateforge with vaal temptation to get infinite vaal burning arrows

[finite quail]

then idk man

[warped sonnet]

seems to be the case for all of them, was same for my master of metal jewels

[spice pecan]

yes, everyone has to have at this point, fuck krafton and fuck them for fucking over subnautica 2

[finite quail]

not all of them, no

[lapis geode]

real?

[proud gorge]

yeah

[rose quail]

Yeah but that's the same like looksmaxxers using hammer in lieu of plastic surgery

[lapis geode]

why ai lying to me? what for?

[spice pecan]

yes, they tried to fuck over subnautica 2 royally, it's way too much to discuss here but the CEO got fucking dismantled by the judge

[proud gorge]

AIs aren't intelligent, they don't have knowledge. They just put together a bunch of words in an order that it thinks looks vaguely like what you want.

[dark sequoia]

im gonna ask chatgpt how to build a meme build

[short prairie]

why not underground sea? great layout, insane monster density

[lapis geode]

😭

[void oasis]

no maps working 🙁

[spice pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Az3ZePnFE

[earnest raven]

Im going to buy subnautica 2 now

[lapis geode]

okay thank you for the wiki btw its much better than i use chat gpt bcs when use it i cant even find the imperal garden like 1 hours

[warped sonnet]

what else should i try instead of ritual? been doing ritual only for the past 3 years

[spice pecan]

tldw; krafton buys subnautica studio for 500m and says if it does well they'll pay an extra 250m, then they don't want to pay that 250m, so the ceo asks AI how to do a forced takeover, they get sued, ceo asks AI AGAIN what to do, gets shit advice, absolutely eats pavement in court, and loses

it's really funny

[full kraken]

thats pretty unsurprising tbh, people seem to forget a huge amount of most llm training data is fictional stories, so a "naked" LLM (without stuff like MCP tools it can use to fact check and search with) will be predominately using fiction story books as a large influence for what it produces XD

[proud gorge]

like, AIs can seem to have knowledge when it comes to incredibly common knowledge that's been printed thousands of time across the internet, but in that case it's just copying some reply that someone else wrote years ago

[earnest raven]

Something fast like strong boxes or essences

[rose quail]

Even more they forget that it gravitates towards the mean. So for legislation something that is valid in China won't be valid in US and so for but it will average it out

[full kraken]

I like to describe LLMs as "a machine that can play a game of family feud 30 times per second to guess the word that comes next"

[finite quail]

break it down ai slop style

https://tenor.com/view/starwhocouldfly-rigby-cat-rigby-silly-cat-stupid-cat-gif-15385366713072989704

[warped sonnet]

I tried essences yesterday but it felt bad. Maybe i just need to re-wire my brain from the endless rituals

[proud gorge]

but the more specific the info you're looking for the worse they are, and even worse when you ask it to do something that's not possible, like give you court cases to back up a legal defense that has absolutely no legal precident because it's just straight up illegal

[lapis geode]

can i make a game using ai?

[finite quail]

sure

[pulsar ice]

what a detour...

[proud gorge]

only if it's a game that hundreds of thousands of people have already written before

[full kraken]

pretty easily tbh, a good game... not too hard but you'll need to learn how to actually use it

[finite quail]

ai code isnt good though

[spice pecan]

you gotta be trolling at this point

[grizzled saffron]

Subnautica 2??

[rose quail]

Nah, that's not how it works.

[blissful garnet]

how do i open a temple map that i bought

[hard cliff]

2nd subnautica sucked

[full kraken]

its perfectly fine

• with multi-shot prompting, guard rails, a whole suite of MCP tools, LSP integration, and a series of very fine tuned agent files

[rose quail]

Most of systems for tooling are pretty result agnostic.

[proud gorge]

again, AI doesn't innovate, it doesn't make things up, it can only replicate things that have been done hundreds or thousands of times before, usually stolen off Stackoverflow

[warped sonnet]

Temple is in atlas

[spice pecan]

that's not subnautica 2

[finite quail]

juicy map

[hard cliff]

I know

[spice pecan]

you're thinking of subnautica: below zero, which yeah was kinda mid

[blissful garnet]

i can't find it, my atlas is complete. nothing i click works

[grizzled saffron]

Wish I can find a giant squid

[finite quail]

and seer too pog

[rose quail]

Yep. Like you need a bunch of setup. Not the good ol' chatgpt web interface

[tough cove]

below zero and moonwhatever both were bad

[hard cliff]

now we will have two second subnauticas

[finite quail]

where expensive unique wtf

[tough cove]

i have no faith in subnautica 2 at all whatsoever no matter whos running it

[proud gorge]

sure, you can theoretically make a game using AI to produce pieces of code that are fairly boilerplate, but like, at that point just use a library

and again, that's not "making a game with AI", that's "using an AI engine as a tool in game development"

which is an entirely different thing

[rose quail]

Nah. You can get very solid results really. It's just that the effort is actually substantial.

[full kraken]

for example, as an excercise for fun, I am writing a whole game engine from scratch and its about... 85% vibe coded and it actually performs quite well, Im fairly happy with it so far

but I have put the large amount of work into setting up my agents to have the tooling to do advanced stuff like actively debug the project, run heat traces to find what code is making areas take longer, perform legit benchmarks, integration test... etc etc etc

https://github.com/SteffenBlake/Atomic.Net/tree/main/MonoGame/Atomic.Net.MonoGame

[tough cove]

same as using ai to remove repetitive busy work coding isnt making a game witha i

[rose quail]

Meh, that's just semantics. That like saying I'm not baking with a pan but cooking using pan as a tool

[tough cove]

tools arent inherently bad is the point

[warped sonnet]

damn coins are getting cheap, maybe i should try to upgrade my current gem

[spice pecan]

"why would i use a bowl for cereal when i can just use the soft spot on my skull"

[normal hedge]

sadge missed the unveil

[proud gorge]

okay? The question was "can I make a game using AI", and the answer is "sure, as long as you're only using it to produce fairly boilerplate functions and doing all the actual game design and work in actual game development yourself"

[rose quail]

I agree. In the ends it's up to user. And if user is dumb then we have Tier 0 Error.

[proud gorge]

the point is, most people asking "can I use AI to make a game" aren't thinking of that second thing

they're thinking of "feed the AI a prompt and it spits out a game"

[lucid gale]

Plain Temple isn't on the atlas.
There's a lot of normal and unique maps with temple in the name, and also the Incursion temple.

[warped sonnet]

yeah like who wants to play one

[tough cove]

theres a massive fundamental misunderstanding of what "ai" is

[proud gorge]

yes

[spice pecan]

is there a way to search for inscribed ultimatums by sacrifice required on trade

[elder kayak]

Map from Eagon doesn't work with Scarab? I can see contains Harvest in Map Mod list, but can't find in map.

[full kraken]

For example, with the right tooling, you can get results like this, 100% of this optimization was an AI agent utilizing benchmark project + heat trace output in order to actually find problem areas in the codebase and optimize performance constructively

https://github.com/SteffenBlake/Atomic.Net/blob/main/MonoGame/Atomic.Net.MonoGame.Benchmarks/SequenceDriver/SparsePoisonSequenceBenchmark.PROFILING-REPORT.md

That is its output report file after it cooked for about 40 minutes, and was able to improve performance of the area by a whopping ~30%

[rose quail]

Yeah. It's really exhausting because people get it wrong on both sides. People who shill it make it sound like magic. People who don't like it say it's a crippled calculator when it can actually do much more.

[full kraken]

but you gotta know how to set it up with tools to even be capable of doing stuff like that

[normal hedge]

thats what you need?

[tough cove]

Most of the people shilling it are MBAs, many of whom are conartists in the first place

[spice pecan]

TIL there's ulti filters

[lucid gale]

Type, yeah, count for currency, probably no.

[gritty epoch]

Dlss 6 will make a AI game from nothing

[proud gorge]

most people have no idea what AIs even are, and it doesn't help that a lot of the AI companies are actively lying to make it seem to be more than it is, and the AIs themselves even tend to lie about their own capabilities, which doesn't help when these people get most of their info about stuff from the AIs anyways

[spice pecan]

rip, thanks

[rose quail]

For sure. Sell a dream and imaginary problem and then throw a piece of poop at it

[hard cliff]

POOP

[full kraken]

the fact people will even ask an LLM questions about itself inherently demonstrates how much people have zero clue what an LLM is... An LLM, inherently, cant answer questions about itself because that would have required it to be trained on information that only exists after it has been created XD

[proud gorge]

I do also find it hilarious that the most informationally accurate AIs at this point just straight up do a google search when you ask them a question and then incorporate that into their input

[full kraken]

(though, once you add MCP tooling into the mix, an LLM can answer questions about itself via the tools)

[tough cove]

Most of what people use are nothing more than glorified search engines

[hard cliff]

I mean you have previous drafts before it goes live

[proud gorge]

like, congrats, you have successfully turned the AI into a shitty google search

[hard cliff]

that's what I'm saying

[full kraken]

yeah but like, fundamentally people seem to think LLMs are "self aware" and will ask questions in those veins, like it has any concept of a "self" in the first place

[tough cove]

And thats a loaded concept because alot of these LLMs have substantial amounts of scifi used in their training materials

[surreal musk]

neuro-sama following 💀

[gritty epoch]

The more frustrating thing about AI are the companies shoving it down your throats, soon all your games will be AI

[full kraken]

also asking it a question like "why did you do that" as if that means anything

[tough cove]

I mean its understandable in the gaming industry, the gaming industry is god awful expensive

And theres a ton of shovelware already

[hard cliff]

yeah it's stupid

a chat bot tricking people doesn't mean it's alive lol

[tough cove]

Alot of times its not even the chat bot doing it, its people using scripts that they combed hundreds of times to get a set of answers so they can use it to fearmonger

[full kraken]

software development has already been deeply entrenched in AI for like a solid 2 years now

AI autocomplete is a baked in, opt out, default enabled, feature in almost every main stream IDE now, and has been for awhile

[gritty epoch]

Yeah but have u seen the dlss shit and ppl shilling for it

[full kraken]

like if a video game was developed from early 2024 or later, the odds it doesnt have AI generated code in it is incredibly low

[proud gorge]

lots of LLMs these days are both continuously trained on new data, but also straight up use a google search (or other search) as part of their input, so they can theoretically "have info" on recent stuff, but at that point it's basically just summarizing a google search for you

[full kraken]

yeh, which is useful

For example, I have started using my copilot license to help me with shopping for deals

[proud gorge]

oh man the emojis

[gritty epoch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1owxnoi/call_of_duty_black_ops_7_is_littered_with_ai_art/

[proud gorge]

why do they love emojis so much

[short prairie]

this mf one shot me

[full kraken]

a massive amount of their training data is clickbait "news" articles

[gritty garnet]

where's your culling

[spice pecan]

huge flicker gameplay wtf

[proud gorge]

my theory is because emojis are just extremely context-dense but also usually singular meaning "words" with strong associations

[short prairie]

i dont have it

[mortal jetty]

why the f was i banned

[gritty garnet]

I think the map boss culled you

[hard cliff]

sorry wrong button lol

[spice pecan]

for misspelling the word tragedy

[tough cove]

lol

[gritty epoch]

You mean you don't know?

[proud gorge]

you get muted for talking about politics to any degree for any reason

[tough cove]

i mean thats pretty obvious why you got chat modded in global

[mortal jetty]

how is 9/11 politics?

[hard cliff]

[gritty garnet]

in poe 9/11 rounds down so you can't talk about it

[surreal musk]

probably for spreading conspiracy, we all know 9/11 was an inside job

[mortal jetty]

yall are so jaded

[hard cliff]

you did get an answer though

[proud gorge]

just saying why

[spiral venture]

I don't know what they have done to the game, but now some of my juiced maps are getting overloaded

[spice pecan]

rather be jaded than have the foresight of a teaspoon

[surreal musk]

cause ggg has bad servers

[spiral venture]

Via I'm farming a lot of mobs at the same time from strongboxes and mobs just start t-posing all around the map

[surreal musk]

week 2 of time dialation

[rose quail]

Finally saved up enough

[spiral venture]

My maps can potentially crash somebody's game if one has a weak pc

[karmic gust]

this actually perfectly demonstrates one of the bigger issues with LLMs. instead of telling you that whatever you are doing is actually stupid it will try to go along with the mistake

[full kraken]

how so?

[spiral venture]

I hear my own fans having a ball when that happens

[gritty epoch]

Not even foiled smh

[warped sonnet]

not even influenced smh

[surreal musk]

not even 5 flask smh

[spiral venture]

Not even corrupted smh

[warped sonnet]

vendor and start again

[spiral venture]

Just drop the league atp

[gritty epoch]

Don't even bother to vendor that trash belt, pass it to me I'll dispose of it for you

[karmic gust]

if optimizing json serialization increases the perrformance by 30% by hardcoding bunch of shit, then the issue most likely isnt the json serialization being slow, but why are you even using json serialization on such hot path

[tame cargo]

i only started playing poe2 recently, have 350 hours, and have basically done all the endgame content

how different is poe1 to poe2, and should i try it out?

[karmic gust]

im looking at the file it edited in the commit

[short prairie]

i finally got taiming

[gritty epoch]

Different game imo

[full kraken]

ah, because the game engine is built on top of "data as logic" json, intentionally, such that it becomes very easy to mod by adding your own data json files

[karmic gust]

and if i saw file like that while reviewing something i would actually go nuts

like are we in python or are we in statically typed language here smh

[gritty garnet]

we're in a screenshot

[tough cove]

hooray!

[full kraken]

hyper optimized code goes brrrrrrr

[tame cargo]

well i've got until end of april to learn it, u think thats enough time?

[full kraken]

when you super optimize stuff, you start getting weird nuances like that

[karmic gust]

C# actully has compile time json serializer generation tho

you rly dont need to do this

[tame cargo]

also how differnt is it really?

[finite quail]

this is a very path of exile conversation indeed

[full kraken]

I know, unfortunately the 3rd party lib Im integrated with uses the slightly older json types instead of the new better ones 😩

Instead of JsonDocument I have to use JsonObject, thats why you have the weird code like that, and the agent even called all that out here as the primary concern, but fixing that obviously wasnt in scope of the work it was assigned, but it still called it out as a thing

[rose quail]

I agree with death here. If there is one thing it's super bad at that's understanding what has to be done and why. Just like writing code normally you have to hand feed it

[wintry lily]

why you insulting teaspoons

[karmic gust]

ngl any of those 3 potential solutions are batshit crazy

[gritty epoch]

Imo much faster, more builds, more depth/freedom, more balances... I mean it's free so why not just try it out

[karmic gust]

lmao

[livid quarry]

still lvl 84

so rich

for lvl

[karmic gust]

but yea see AI would atually never tell you to rethink your approach, its just providing solutions to problem it sees

[full kraken]

theyre indeed the correct choices, the "json as logic" thing is a core principle of the whole engine :p

Think like how Minecraft has the whole pseudo json thing you can use to mod it

[karmic gust]

however crazy the solution is

and if you are actually experienced developer that is fine, but if some junior sees it then they just do it

[gritty epoch]

What is a Jason?

[karmic gust]

because they are stupid

[livid quarry]

who is jason

[spiral venture]

How is Jason

[surreal musk]

imjungroan

[full kraken]

actually... lemme see here... I dont have any examples on hand but the one agent I have setup is actually pretty prone to giving me pushback on ideas, you have to explicitly setup its context to do that, but once instructed to do so theyre pretty good about it

[bitter herald]

Whats everyone scarab set up for breach? Trying to find a good replacement for bloodline

Using 2 instability, 1 cascade, 1 wisp, 1 lineage

[surreal musk]

insta insta lineage lineage then wisp/sinstral/dextral depending if there's 2 currency mods in either prefix or suffix

cascade doesnt seem to do much

[autumn depot]

anyone lagging right now?

nvm its smooth again

[fossil mural]

Nvm its lagging again

[karmic gust]

well theres a reason why ppl usually use embedded languages for this, if serialization issues are this bad for you (but also surely you dont have to continuosly serialize, deserialize stuff. anyway i dont know anything about what is being done there but these problems do not feel right at all to me)

[autumn depot]

oh yea its lagging again ahaha

[fossil mural]

We are so back

Its so over

😩

[full kraken]

its not actually that bad, we're doing 60 frames of calculations on IIRC 1000 entities in ~300ms, which is pretty solid

[tough cove]

its been a great last hour of poe

[full kraken]

its just that 90% of those 300ms is pretty much json.logic stack alloc'ing out the whazzoo, but it still gets there

[surreal musk]

is it damage over time or non damaging ailments

one of them is not like the other xd

[tough cove]

its dot/crit

[ebon hatch]

is it just me or breach is actually not rewarding at all unless you got mega lucky with the tree?

[surreal musk]

op

[finite quail]

wtf juicy map

[surreal musk]

breach is the meta juicing /groundloot strat

aka its rewarding

[karmic gust]

200fps for 1000 entities only is really pushing the definition of solid :d

[ebon hatch]

how so then, cuz i got 0 ground loot from it even if i run deli orbs

[wintry lily]

deli doesn't juice mobs

[karmic gust]

i mean it sounds like fun approach at least, but yea

[livid quarry]

im a get lvl 90 by end of week 2

[runic barn]

is there a cheat sheet on what heist related stuff to pick up to sell? i cant remember what is relevant and what isnt

[surreal musk]

copy fubgoons low invest breach setup its in his strat sheet if u google it

[fossil mural]

Are you using astrolabes

Here comes "whats that"

[finite quail]

whats that

[cosmic eagle]

gotta lube the ground so it drops something

[drowsy eagle]

breach sucks if you do half-ass juicing

[surreal musk]

astrolab not required for breach at all

https://i.imgur.com/8QsnBRq.png this is my ring from breach, no astrolabs, no bloodlines , no cascade

[fossil mural]

If you dont go full juice might as well run stacked decks or scoured beasts

Lmao

[livid quarry]

whats astrolab

[tame cargo]

well its a lot mroe stuff to learn, and way more fleshed out, so more intimidating to get into idk

do stash tabs transfer?

[wintry lily]

no mirror shit strat clearly

[finite quail]

[drowsy eagle]

I think half of my breach loot is from locks

[livid quarry]

^doesnt use astrolab

[finite quail]

I do not use astrolabes no

[drowsy eagle]

people run 2 maps and say there's no loot

[finite quail]

I have also not ran over like, 50 maps after completing the atlas

[gritty garnet]

I gotta find somebody running all the lobes to leech challenges

[full kraken]

The end goal is a game engine that can edit from within itself, its aspirational but Id say Im about 40% of the way there

[finite quail]

But so far breach, boxes and beyond is treating me very well

[ebon hatch]

wait, we talk breach do we mean unstable or the hive?

[finite quail]

the triple B

big booty bitches

or rather, breach boxes and beyond

[surreal musk]

unstable

[livid quarry]

i got 7d i bet if i waited 3 months i could buy a hh

[full kraken]

The ultimate fiscal strategy

[final owl]

waelp. 50k blood spent, about 1.5d obtained. stonks

[finite quail]

tree nerfed

good

[elfin spire]

that's like 30+ maps

[surreal musk]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR35NJkrhF1Zf9SZZOPlsdpqbTibL2AqOiZosya0NSjEN5A1Dx8a_MeQox9VDLQw3kB0ibZCNb_e6VJ/pubhtml do the 'budget breach' strat

[worldly bridge]

im sorry what?

[elfin swan]

So I didn't play or read PoE forever. How new Atlas work? If I slap t10 map on t1 area it will give me t10 of that area?

[finite quail]

ya

[worldly bridge]

you mean three rare items with the same name on the little item border at the top?

[finite quail]

yeah

[worldly bridge]

wack

[finite quail]

its dumb

[signal marten]

i have never done legion, i am looking to find a geomaner's incubator.. is there any legion node that helps with this?

[finite quail]

no

[wintry lily]

Yes its called just keep playing legion until it drops one.

[finite quail]

you could just buy the incubator instead bro

Unless you're in ssf

[signal marten]

ssf

[finite quail]

oh

[worldly bridge]

bro i just rolled through 115 chaos

no similar name

[finite quail]

then I guess just get all nodes that improve loot drops on legions

no way to really target farm incubators

or do 5 ways if you got a good build for it

[signal marten]

but it has like a chest icon on it right so durign the encounter i just look for that

[worldly bridge]

is there anyway to search by name

[finite quail]

8mod t16s shit out tons of incubators on juiced legions

[finite quail]

you dont look for anything in legions

you explode everything

[karmic gust]

surprised you did not looked at something like flecs as a base for something like that, when most of stuff is just actual data i feel like ecs would be perfect fit

[full kraken]

Like on trade? You type the make in the search box

[spice pecan]

you know what shits out even more incubators? simulacrum

[signal marten]

well its ssf i aint at the explode all stage yet

[finite quail]

well then kill as mucha s you can as fast as you can

[karmic gust]

but also im kinda ECS pilled, i think what they did with flecs is for sure work of art tho

[fossil mural]

You know what shits out even more of them? Trade website

[signal marten]

but i see the vision, noted

cheers

[wintry lily]

You have alerted the ggg, next they'll kill incubators from sim

[full kraken]

Thats sorta what it is, Im writing it from scratch intentionally as an exercise :p

[worldly bridge]

i want three rings with the same name

[livid quarry]

whats sim d/hr atm

[fossil mural]

And then buff voices drop rate by 1% to compensate

[karmic gust]

i tried writing ecs once but man the amount of optimizations they havve there

[full kraken]

Wouldn't you want a cheaper option you can 20% quality

[worldly bridge]

oh right 20% qual

my bad

[spice pecan]

i was pulling like 1-2 voices an hour in 3.26, so 20-40d/hr selling unid back in that league purely from voices and nothing else

can add a couple div/hr from the fuckload of stacked dicks

[livid quarry]

feels weird 29% quality bases for weapons are so cheap

what happened

[wintry lily]

I like how this community has no problem with saying "stacked dicks"

[finite quail]

stacked cocks

[fossil mural]

No one plays phys weapons

[wintry lily]

Dont even know how or where it started from

[livid quarry]

even 30% qualit is like 20c

[wintry lily]

we've just been saying it

[karmic gust]

i think pretty highly of my skills normally but something as insane like that I just coulnt do i dont think :d

[spice pecan]

i will take a free phys paradoxica ty

[elder harness]

when running strongboxes, do you open literally all of them, or just the rare variants?

[finite quail]

surely one hits

[finite quail]

all of them

[wintry lily]

I mean, do you want more loot or less loot

[finite quail]

none of them hit

one hit after annuling

[short prairie]

wait.

[wintry lily]

not 14%

do it again.

[finite quail]

I'm penniless bro

[finite quail]

waits

[wintry lily]

sell something, do it again.

🔫

[finite quail]

no.

[wintry lily]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-minos-prime-minos-v1-gif-12688228552171977177

[elder harness]

any idea of a good item filter for the loot, cause my screen is covered in stuff worth les than 1c

especially div cards

[wintry lily]

neversink filters

keep upping the filter strictness until desired

[spice pecan]

neversink's website, filterblade.xyz

[wintry lily]

Personally, once you start adding any juice

[short prairie]

wait what is this recomb

[wintry lily]

strict isnt enough

just uber strict atp

[short prairie]

😭

[wintry lily]

Its usable?

Not sure who'd want it

[worldly bridge]

why

[short prairie]

no life

[wintry lily]

dont even think people stack armour and evasion anymore

[spice pecan]

challenge probably

[drowsy eagle]

lmao get scammed

[wintry lily]

big deal, im playing pathfinder, i dont have life in like half my gear

[spice pecan]

armor stackers exist

[finite quail]

filterblade.xyz

[wintry lily]

fair nuff

[finite quail]

make it very strict

[wintry lily]

real coincidence that every league i quit ahead of time usually has doryani machinarium at some fucking stupid price

[finite quail]

thankfully you dont need doryanis machinarium anymore to complete the atlas

[short prairie]

but im a flicker

[wintry lily]

even better

you dont need life on flicker

just kill FASTER

[wintry lily]

just some spurious correlations

its not like its an indicator for why i end up quitting the league

usually its just because I dont like the league as much as I thought

[unborn lodge]

waking up to this

[ocean nest]

when you were just about to create an deadeye lightning arrow mapper and mathil just drops an self cast Arc vid...

[wintry lily]

whats the problem? he took up the 2k hp build quota?

[surreal musk]

lmao

[untold lynx]

excuse me, how can I enter the abomination map?

do I have to unlock void stones first?

[ocean nest]

na, at least its 3k hp and 700 ES 😄

the problem for me is that I love playing Arc

[finite quail]

first do maven to get the voidstone, then you can do it

you can also do sirus instead iirc

[ocean nest]

playing Holy Relic right now and the clear speed is a little bit annoing since I cant play breach + beyond well since I cant manage to clear packs that good

so either I throw like 40 divine into some forbidden flame / flesh combo to use profane bloom and hope that would do the trick or I just create an deadeye lightning arrow mapper and have some fun with headhunter

[livid quarry]

head hunter

[surreal musk]

profane bloom is one of the worst ways to get explode

[wintry lily]

You're forgetting about the obvious option

[lucid kiln]

chat can i still get the following mod on these gloves?

[ocean nest]

teach me senpai

[wintry lily]

Just play Fyregrass TS Poison Ballista

[finite quail]

or you could get oriaths end instead

[surreal musk]

for explode get oriaths end if ele dmg, unspeakable gifts if chaos dmg

[finite quail]

yes

[ocean nest]

doesnt work on minion kills, no?

[untold lynx]

thank you very much, what about shaper guardian maps?

[finite quail]

neither does profane bloom

[lucid kiln]

it says the gloves has no space for mods

[finite quail]

top right

[finite quail]

okay?

and?

[lucid kiln]

then how can i enchant them

[hybrid harness]

glad I scryd. 4 cards in 5 maps

[finite quail]

brother

thats a craft

not an enchant

[wintry lily]

If it has 6 mods, you cannot craft on it

[ocean nest]

ngl tornado Shot would be cool as well BUTit does thou

[finite quail]

you dont have an open affix slot for it

[lucid kiln]

o

[finite quail]

no, it doesnt work with minions

[wintry lily]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-drinking-fountain-lukewarm-water-mods-gif-3195335258168558710

[finite quail]

not without gravebinds

[ocean nest]

we're not talkin about headhunter

[finite quail]

correct, we are not talkng about headhunter

we're talking about profane bloom and other explosions

and how they do not work with minions

because your minions do not have your explode stats

[ocean nest]

profane bloom works since my minions kill the cursed enemies...

[finite quail]

brother

YOU have the stat for explode on YOUR CHARACTER

your MINIONS are NOT your character

[lucid kiln]

they are fren

[finite quail]

THEY do not have profane bloom

YOU do

its YOUR HITS that can explode cursed enemies on kill

[ocean nest]

I dont need ANY explode on my character since profane bloom alone makes the explode

[finite quail]

actually nevermind forget everything I said

[wintry lily]

"you or YOUR"

[lucid kiln]

lambie irl:

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[finite quail]

I misremembered profane bloom

💀

oh god thats embarassing

[ocean nest]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-stay-mad-cope-cry-abt-it-l-gif-11035620824406254327

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/issou-risitas-risitas-issou-marrant-drole-gif-16912230041679274607

[wintry lily]

I sentence lambie to a 3 hour reading session

[ocean nest]

okay now back to tornado shot 😄

[lucid kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/sensible-chuckle-laugh-laughing-lol-chuckle-gif-4900071

[surreal musk]

as long as you are confident enough you cant be wrong

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-laughing-cry-pain-gif-5222355845801263703

[surreal musk]

dw

[ocean nest]

I would realy like to play it if it would be viable

[surreal musk]

tornado shot is def a viable map blaster if u got a HH

[elfin spire]

[wintry lily]

The random rare waiting to crit your ass :

[ocean nest]

yeah, I have to calculate what everything would cost in total and if I could afford it. headhunter and an actual decent bow will be expensive

[ocean nest]

get Ultimatumed

[arctic rain]

laughs in 80% reduced crit dmg taken

[wintry lily]

*dies anyways because the base dmg +20% of the crit dmg taken is enough to kill you

[worldly bridge]

question why is a mirroed item with -400 life and -130 crit multi 13 divines?

[arctic rain]

If something kills me its 100% my own fault

[surreal musk]

cause you can 5:1 for a clean base

[arctic rain]

Skill issue - my jugg shouldnt be killable

[worldly bridge]

ohhhhhh

[elfin spire]

-50% damage from crits in my nodes:

[ocean nest]

better push that to 100

[finite quail]

scam

jk

[elfin spire]

i have no idea how, but i can guess that it would be expensive

[worldly bridge]

man heist farmers really be making bank

im getting kinda bored just sitting in hideout

maybe a new build

or i could finish getting to 100

[ocean nest]

50% corrupt on body armour + 50% on shield

or either get some of it from passive tree

[ocean nest]

strongbox farmers as well. nothin stops you from doin that

[hoary totem]

has new season started?

[elfin spire]

i have 11% phys taken as ele on chest and don't want to lose it
no shield cuz warstave

[worldly bridge]

nah bro we got another week

[gritty garnet]

most people just find a fractured chest and slap -10% per endurance charge essence on it

[ocean nest]

well, you probably dont have skill points to spare for another 30% from tree then I guess

[worldly bridge]

@hoary totem im joking the league has been going for like 2 weeks

[wintry lily]

2 weeks? league is over bro

🥀

[worldly bridge]

just login for yourself xdd

[fervent nimbus]

Is retal bleed glad a good, cheap build to farm unstable breach strat with? Or better go with the classic explody chieftain?

[spice pecan]

i think eviscerate with bleed pops probably has better coverage but idk

[ocean nest]

depends on what unstable breach stat we're talkin

[lucid kiln]

cant believe i clicked the blue letters

[finite quail]

both are good, chieftain explode will probably be better tho

since the explode chance got doubled

[cosmic raptor]

stacked digs

[fervent nimbus]

Oh, are there different ones? havent looked deep into it yet, just read that you probably want a headhunter char for it, or a build like the ones I mentioned

[fervent nimbus]

Aight, think Ill go just go chieftain then ye

[finite quail]

nah you dont need an hh

[ocean nest]

there is unstable breach EXP strat or Unstable Breach currency farm. and the latter one probably has different approaches as well

[finite quail]

fubbie

[ocean nest]

https://tenor.com/view/so-edgy-edgy-edgelord-cool-emo-gif-25925689

[cosmic raptor]

[ocean nest]

I hope that wasnt your message

[cosmic raptor]

nah

some general chatter

global* or w/e

[hidden cipher]

Did they take away the transfigured option from the third acendancy? I have done 23 runs and havnt got it, usually I get it within the first few

[proud gorge]

no, it's definitely still there

I've gotten it a few times this league, since I did a bit of KBoC farming for some early currency

and some quality on gems

[worldly bridge]

just unlucky

[hidden cipher]

Sigh that sucks ok 24th time then

[worldly bridge]

i was about to say i could buy you one but youre prob in ssf

[proud gorge]

according to the wiki it appears about 6% of the time

[worldly bridge]

womp

[hidden cipher]

Aye ssf

[proud gorge]

so about 1/17 tries at the divine font

[worldly bridge]

its always a 50/50

[proud gorge]

but yeah, 24 tries without hitting it is unlucky, but well within bounds

[worldly bridge]

you just lost 24 coin flips in a row

[cosmic raptor]

what map u guys running for stacked dicks

[finite quail]

lvl 93 woop woop

no idea wtf to use the point on

oh nvm, frenzy charge