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[hexed egret]

I'm not talking about the totems version

With herald of ice it clears very well

I hope you know I'm not referring to totem

[crimson hearth]

yeah i know

[hexed egret]

Like sure the clear is not on the level of kinetic blast of cluster

[crimson hearth]

i dont really like wand builds tho

[hexed egret]

Then what do you want to do

[untold lotus]

if u dont mind dying 5000 times u can do bows

[hexed egret]

Spark?

[untold lotus]

if u wnana blast

[crimson hearth]

i have a bows char

[hexed egret]

6 portal defence op

[crimson hearth]

and deleted just now actually\

[grim pivot]

What build did you start with?

[untold lotus]

yup

[crimson hearth]

bleed slams

[crimson hearth]

would shocknova be good?

[untold lotus]

just look at random build guides on utube maybe ull find oen that looks good

[hexed egret]

Zdps until you get enough aoe

[untold lotus]

with 4 div budget ur not even gonna be able to do t16s smoothly

[crimson hearth]

meh i tried like 60% of the builds there

[crimson hearth]

oh

[hexed egret]

4d is all you need for KF

[crimson hearth]

then what just say a build il do it

[hexed egret]

Like it's so good

[crimson hearth]

besides kf lol

[untold lotus]

flicker strike

[hexed egret]

Why not just so spark

[crimson hearth]

i despise that sht genuinely

[crimson hearth]

i actually never did that

[hexed egret]

Uh oh

Here comes the flicker shills

[untold lotus]

hold right click watch youtube and ull kill everything

[crisp obsidian]

omg I love how well these nightmare boss fights are made

they are so goooooood

like the design in these are so insanely well good

holyyyyyyy

[crimson hearth]

?

[finite quail]

earthshatter jugg with fissure support

[hexed egret]

Still can't compare to Geonor fight

[crimson hearth]

i sorta did that

[hexed egret]

I'm joking around, some people here very passionate about flicker

[crisp obsidian]

I think whoever made this citadel boss should never touch anything game related ever again

[crimson hearth]

i mean if its good sure

[finite quail]

saboteur triggerbots sands of time lightning conduit of the heavens

[crimson hearth]

i heard its really weak defense tho

[hexed egret]

I agree

That is a fact

[crimson hearth]

huh

[finite quail]

what

[crisp obsidian]

like who even let this fight go through QA and all that

holy xddd

[crimson hearth]

what is allat

[finite quail]

saboteur

for triggerbots

then sands of time

[hexed egret]

I once had the AoE circle spawn like a screen away

[finite quail]

for five casts in one cast

[crimson hearth]

so a trap build

[hexed egret]

So I couldn't go into it in time

[nocturne maple]

wdym you don't like getting slowed to oblivion and shit flying all over the place

[finite quail]

no

selfcast

[dark kite]

nice easy 8 hour acts clear for rf

[finite quail]

triggerbots are for sands of time

which dupes your casts

[hexed egret]

PEGIN!

[finite quail]

makes the dupes happen twice as often

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-discord-peg-lube-gif-3845198471546101100

[hexed egret]

I haven't seen you around this week

[crimson hearth]

il check it out and flicker too

[crisp obsidian]

yeah I don't like getting -105% action speed

it is not nice

[tranquil umbra]

ah hell naw jigsaw your ass tweaking

[finite quail]

gladiator flicker strike is cool

[nocturne maple]

I be playing poe

dropped a mb today

[hexed egret]

Can you look at my hammer pob please

Like just any quick flaws

[crimson hearth]

i see many versions of flicker

[hexed egret]

Other than the holy hammers skill

[untold lotus]

one annoying thing ab flicker is u have to track back for loot

rlly annoying

[hexed egret]

Yes I know the skill itself is shit but I want to play it

[crisp obsidian]

like if this fight had some actual mechanics to counter the action speed slows it would be fine

[nocturne maple]

I don't even know how the skill works, I haven't looked at it since like the initial reveal

[crisp obsidian]

but there is no way to counter it except getting that one mod somewhere

[crimson hearth]

slayer, gladiator, reliquarian all flicker

wich is best

[hexed egret]

Just think of it as a slam skill

It's like earthquake but moves and no delay

[untold lotus]

check em out

reliquarian is new so idk ab that

[hexed egret]

No wait it's more like sunder

But holy

[crimson hearth]

https://youtu.be/5IhiLspf-TI?si=8RMSWQ2fkWdDftI3 theres like no way

[hexed egret]

It's warden bro

Zhp

[crimson hearth]

ew

[untold lotus]

do not do warden

[nocturne maple]

if it's basically a slam, then it should be pretty solved, no?

[crimson hearth]

just by looking i see a shtton of bait guides

any recomendations?

[finite quail]

wtf why do I have 5 beyond bosses in one map lmfao

[hexed egret]

Yeah but defences seem to be varied on how people resolve echoes of creation

[crimson hearth]

how the fk do i write that

recomandtions

wait no

[grim pivot]

maxroll

[crimson hearth]

reco

mendation

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/K69OGi0.png

Thanks Wine of the Prophet

[hexed egret]

And should I keep the mastery to keep rage perma up

[crimson hearth]

there

[hard cliff]

🐟

[hexed egret]

The warcry = 2 rage one

[untold lotus]

u can look at

magefist videos

he always does zero to hero flicker strike

u can follow what he does and ull be good

[crimson hearth]

il look at that thanks

[untold lotus]

np

[nocturne maple]

it's nice, I would keep it if you have points to spare

[hexed egret]

Hmm ok

[crisp obsidian]

8min map clear POG

[hexed egret]

I haven't solved the degen

But I guess it could be worse

[crimson hearth]

isnt flicker like really fast clear

[hexed egret]

Press berserk when I'm dying

[crisp obsidian]

it is supposed to yes

[crimson hearth]

question thoo

[hexed egret]

Assuming you don't die every second

Magefist made a tanky one

[crimson hearth]

could i do ambush/breach with it

[hexed egret]

But he had to use a lot of money to solve it

[untold lotus]

yes

ofc

flicker strike is rlly good for breach

[hexed egret]

I don't think there is a build that can't do ambush

[crimson hearth]

my builds cant lol

[untold lotus]

wtf???

[hexed egret]

No way

[snow timber]

huh, TIL people think harvest is rippy? It's always been my default "my character is too weak to do anything" farm. Was reading some reddit thread.

[hexed egret]

That is impossible

[crimson hearth]

geniuenely im so poorly optimised

[hexed egret]

Well you assume the person is doing rotation

[gritty garnet]

are you cubephobic

[crimson hearth]

my slams die instantly

[hexed egret]

It's kinda hard to do like 6 bosses in a patch

[gritty garnet]

are you using max rolled echoes

[untold lotus]

slams are meant to be tanky

tf did u do lmao

[hexed egret]

If your character is shit

[nocturne maple]

you should have your finger on a blink skill if you do boxes just to be safe

as soon as you click, blink away

[crimson hearth]

alot

[snow timber]

i see

[karmic gust]

harvest bosses are turbo rippy

[crimson hearth]

i mea

[hexed egret]

Have you seen like 6 tier 4 plants in 1 patch? Pretty trippy

[crimson hearth]

n

the stats are great

idk how i die

[grim pivot]

You sure? Link pob

[crimson hearth]

https://pobb.in/yZJHwL4IsZsy

the dps is bait

[opal ingot]

juiced harvest is rippy ashell

[crimson hearth]

i do 900k on a good day

[snow timber]

i don't do crop rota, yea. If that's the kind of harvest they're thinking of then i could see why they call it rippy

[opal ingot]

its almost 8mod stacked decks rippy if you're 8mod harvest too

[final owl]

man the bandit leader is such a chump it's hard to beleive he actually captured mappers

[gritty garnet]

why do you have so many different attacks

[nocturne maple]

slam builds are usually susceptible to multihits, which is a bit hard to solve

[hexed egret]

Bro are you in ssf

[crimson hearth]

i like variety lol

[crimson hearth]

no

[untold lotus]

????

[crimson hearth]

wait what

i didnt update my pob

[odd fox]

"Some statistics on Mirage League so far. Exarch is apparently harder than Eater."
its cuz of the balls

[crimson hearth]

i changed that long time ag

[nocturne maple]

why do I see crimson dance

[hexed egret]

Crop rotation is super fun

[untold lotus]

LMAOO

only person in this universe using crimson dance on slam

[hexed egret]

Bro if you have the money get better gear

And get rid of crimson

[snow timber]

idk i do 8mod + doubling + random sacrifice frags/scarabs and quant altars, that's about it

it was my "i need currency to gear my character but it's too weak to do other farms" strat

trying to check in if i'm too far off and my "too weak to do anything else farm" is others "rippy farm" or if they think of something different when they talk about harvest

[crimson hearth]

i dont

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/oJGqqYh.png

I'm collecting unique rings

only drops

[untold lotus]

dont start new build because ur gonna mess it up and its gnna feel shit

no offense

just fix ur current build

[sour umbra]

Don't listen to them. Keep doing this build. It is very meta

[crimson hearth]

well slams in general are just boring at first

https://pobb.in/G9_8dMLWmjh5 there

even worse

[snow timber]

i didn't like the high variance of it, personally
when i tried side by side testing in previous leagues the difference was there but it was minimal enough that I went for the one i enjoyed more

[crimson hearth]

hey i mean if you could tell me where the fk im supposed to start then sure

[untold lotus]

dont use sunder

for end game

not enough screen coverage

[grim pivot]

https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/ground-slam-of-earthshaking-slayer-league-starter

[untold lotus]

ye use that skill instead

[crimson hearth]

ground slam of earthshaking i have

[devout shoal]

what does hidden ascendancy notable variant mean?

[crimson hearth]

its too weak rn

[opal ingot]

idk about you man last league my necro had 10k es, es on block% with double block cap and sometimes i get instakilled by blue t1s or namharin

[snow timber]

lmao this is how i learn that there are different vaults for each quadrant of the atlas, thanks ggg

[opal ingot]

if u dont have CI you can get killed by the millino landmines made by the yellow mobs

rn my zerk has 14k pool but occassionaly dies to blue t1 pack if i dont kill them fast enough

or if i stand in one place for 1s and they fire

its like those fiery cannibals

throwing their flame torch

[final owl]

the harvest firing squad can be pretty rough

[opal ingot]

yeah but honestly the solution is to just move around

whic hi am too lazy

[snow timber]

i have CI and even then those basketballs are quite annoying, yea i agree lol

[crimson hearth]

https://pobb.in/FzpdfG_hikcg this is my slams guide the midgame filter

[final owl]

haha it's why I die. I get a bit "surely it will be ok if i stay still for 2 seconds" oh ok no.. it's not ok

[crimson hearth]

small diffrence just 10m dps

[opal ingot]

real

[surreal mulch]

cant you just continously milk the same astrolabe by "failing" to complete its mission?

[wheat epoch]

what the fuck is this

[opal ingot]

anyways its weird how i can breeze through namharin right now

[surreal mulch]

or do your maps get cursed

[opal ingot]

but the blue t1 mobs are my nightmare

[wheat epoch]

i already did a memory in 2 diff atlas regions?? thi sis just so bugged

[tranquil umbra]

no

the blob just shrinks

[opal ingot]

mmmmm milk

[surreal mulch]

it didnt

[opal ingot]

i love milk

[surreal mulch]

im using the keystone

[snow timber]

no, you lose a map when you start it, not when you finish it

[tranquil umbra]

^

[snow timber]

when you finish it you get the reward
but you lose the attempt when you start it

[surreal mulch]

oh i guess i just misremembred then

[final owl]

I need to actually start running astrolabes. got kinda side tracked trying to find Aul

[tranquil umbra]

that's why you can burn through astrolabes to speedrun the vault

[opal ingot]

you and me brother

[surreal mulch]

about the state my atlas was in

[snow timber]

i like to open my atlas when i start the map and see if rng fucks my blob up real bad, or if i get lucky and it picks one in the corner

[opal ingot]

after i do a bunch of harvet astrolabes i wanna do deli

no wait

full ritual

no stacked deck

im never getting baited to a stacked deck farm

[nocturne maple]

so gambling

[opal ingot]

10d per hour at best

7d if youre casual

demands an 8mod

not worth it

[livid quarry]

what should i build that has good clear and single target dps

[tranquil umbra]

I do a funny technique called throwing my bricked maps at the astrolabe to shrink it and then juice the shit out of the map I want to run

[opal ingot]

i won the gamba

[elfin spire]

perfectly vaaled jewel... then realised there's free suffix on it

[snow timber]

dont you only get the juice rewards when you finish the mechanic

[tranquil umbra]

nope

[halcyon prawn]

does an imbued cyclone support also support the spell it links to for coc builds

[crisp obsidian]

I think I am finally done with poe1 forever

[tranquil umbra]

yes

[crisp obsidian]

time to become poe2 andy

[halcyon prawn]

nice, thats huge

[gritty garnet]

use a couple of tainted exalted orb

[halcyon prawn]

crit dmg support shows the most dmg in that regard for my build

[elfin spire]

atlas in poe 2 is ass
i'm poe 2 andy

[midnight sonnet]

In Path of Exile 1 (PoE1), it is not possible to obtain the Breach Hive nodes or Ritual atlas nodes as they are not part of the PoE1 Atlas Passive Tree.

Breach is a PoE2-only mechanic introduced in the Breach League (2025),

why does the AI lie?

[tranquil umbra]

I mean you can still only have 1 imbued gem

so it doesn't really matter whether you imbue cyclone or the actual damage gem

[sleek barn]

because it is ai

[crisp obsidian]

poe1 atlas is not that much better

[gritty garnet]

if it's cheaper to get it on cyclone instead of the spell go for it

[hard cliff]

what's ai

[halcyon prawn]

yea, but that way u can do lvl 21 on the spell

[hard cliff]

congrats

[halcyon prawn]

no?

[tranquil umbra]

that is very fair

[dark kite]

whats a good way to bridge the gap from level 65 fresh out of acts to level 80 or so and playing a functional build

[tranquil umbra]

proceed

[halcyon prawn]

👍

[tough cove]

what do you mean by bridge the gap?

xp? gear? skill points?

[crisp obsidian]

2x eclipse wands, kf as main damage and spellsing lighting warp

[snow timber]

you need to ask it to do a search, or use thinking mode, or send another prompt to check itself. It's pretty decent once you figure out how to use it

[gritty garnet]

you can leech atlas progression

[dark kite]

oh yeah sorry, xp

[crisp obsidian]

will go quickly

[elfin spire]

at least i can do whatever activity i want without selling my orgnas just because some guy made video about particular activity being profitable

[crisp obsidian]

good joke

[tranquil umbra]

if you want xp fast you can do breach

[crisp obsidian]

that happens in poe1

[dark kite]

not sure when to invest in gear

[snow timber]

that's me doing some funky harvest + betrayal setup now, since they both dont need a lot of scarabs lol

[tough cove]

xp its bascially either run the highest tier map you can run without dying, breach, heist, pay for 5 ways

[gritty garnet]

heist/delving before a10 sucks but at least the progression is shared

[tough cove]

or leech off someone running t16s

[tranquil umbra]

whenever mapping becomes hard

[hexed egret]

Yeah the high variance is annoying

[elfin spire]

difference is in poe 1 you will have expensive scarabs, but you can play activity
in poe 2 you have expensive tablets = no activity at all, gg

[snow timber]

i do betrayal for early atlas cause it just dumps exp on you and the medallion is giga expensive, with pretty decent droprate too

[vapid sedge]

I have a question: if I assign miners to certain minerals and there are no more of that mineral, do they switch to one that is available? And what's the point of food now?

[tough cove]

yes

[crisp obsidian]

Just make more currency to afford tablets

[tough cove]

food can still be shipped for gear/gems/etc

its just less efficient and generally not worth it

[elfin spire]

"you're homeless? jus buy home"

[tough cove]

if you have spare gold use mappers

[halcyon prawn]

cyclone imbue power charge on crit is 18 div

bruh

[tranquil umbra]

I mean yeah

[tough cove]

pcoc/ecos are both expensive for a reason

[vapid sedge]

how i can get tattos?

[livid quarry]

do i play flicker strike again

[tough cove]

ore shipments to the tribal ports

[vapid sedge]

ores now its for tattoes and curr and food for gemms?

[tough cove]

pulv 1, inc aoe, pcoc/ecos, lifetap are all expensive generally for good reasons

[tranquil umbra]

both can get tattoos

[crisp obsidian]

I mean that does work in PoE quite literally

[tough cove]

the main use for food is if your trolling for pirate boss

[vapid sedge]

and what are the best food for tattoes?

[tough cove]

and need the fast shipments to get the % chance to have him

[tranquil umbra]

just do blue zanth

Kingsmarch has a table for which port gives which tattoos

[full kraken]

Hmm... I dunno which I want more... an abyss jewel or another annoint

I feel like abyss jewel is better, cuz I cant get flat life, phase run on kill, and hinder on hit

[tranquil umbra]

(an anoint)

[vapid sedge]

And is it necessary to have everything full of miners and ingot miners, or is one in each place enough?

[midnight sonnet]

my ship crashed and they ate my food

[tranquil umbra]

it's better time efficiency but no

[surreal musk]

https://gyazo.com/134027b52f01ad644ec241ea65a6f545 2/3 on woke enlighten alva 🙂

[atomic crane]

anyone op can kill this mf boss for me 💔

[full kraken]

theres prolly no anoint that beats this methinks

lightning dmg is no-op but the phys and chaos flat is yummmmy

and hinder on hit is critical to enable the fact I have this 2x

[opal ingot]

offer 20c

[tranquil umbra]

what the fuck

[gritty garnet]

are you hitting often enough for 5%

[tough cove]

sir the ethics police would like to know your location

i really want to get a volatiled facebreakers for th ememes

[full kraken]

yeah I hit uhh... 60 times per second or so

[full kraken]

it cost me 25c

[tranquil umbra]

oh fuck my treachery rune gives the enemy 10% life regen

I did not think this through

[finite quail]

mmm... vuln, 200% phys as extra, wisped triple beyond bosses

[short prairie]

holy power charge

[tranquil umbra]

no wonder why shaper took forever

[opal ingot]

offer 5c

then

[finite quail]

I should probably get flesh and stone atp

[tranquil umbra]

holy I'm melding my flesh

[loud idol]

5k ping in fcking eu all day fun times

[final owl]

😩 keep rolling T1 chaos but 58 or lower shock avoid. rngesus pls

[snow timber]

where do harvest beasts spawn, are they just in the normal pool of stuff or is there some way to make them spawn like einhar's memory in previous leagues?

[opal ingot]

normal pool of stuff. maybe you can allocate this

and other inc chance

idk what categories the high value one sare though

[final owl]

ooh T1 life T2 chaos 59 shock. I think we take that

[icy swan]

how much u need dps to clear fortress boss ?

idk if pob lying me or wahat

got liek 10-12kk and cant kill boss

[finite quail]

lmfao

[icy swan]

or will kill in hour

[finite quail]

look at those mods bro

[final owl]

did you use dextral / sinistral?

kinda doesn't look like it

in which case i hope your deeps are.. strong 😛

[icy swan]

life and neryg shield nothing insane

[opal ingot]

+1 max endruance charge, 122% life as extra es, 100% suppress chance

+1 max endruance really carries hard

[icy swan]

suppres dont work vs me

[finite quail]

dont forget wisps

[opal ingot]

oh yeha

wild wooding

[icy swan]

what whip do ?

[final owl]

if you're just going for completion tick box you should use the scarabs. anyway good luck

[nocturne maple]

+148% more life

there's a bunch of multipliers here

[icy swan]

whisp add life ? thougt add mobs

[finite quail]

148% more life, +122% life as extra es, 4 endurance charges, probably wisps

and enfeeble too

[finite quail]

do you not read anything in this game

[nocturne maple]

and maven

like this is the holy grail of tank

[finite quail]

no ones killing that boss

unless they're farming void valdos on a daily basis

[tranquil umbra]

maven seals the deal

because she will just cast healing

[icy swan]

so what should i add t oblocking ?

[finite quail]

yep

[icy swan]

i allready ahve liek 10 blocked mods...

[finite quail]

dextral and sinistral scarabs

so the map doesnt get any mods

[icy swan]

why should i block scrab mods ?

[tranquil umbra]

is that a real tactic

for boss rush

[finite quail]

are you trying to get the atlas point from the map?

or what are you doing

[icy swan]

no

farming

[finite quail]

oh then you're fucked

skip that map

run another one

[tranquil umbra]

they are farming maps in the nightmare map

[icy swan]

dont skip map just dont kil boss

[finite quail]

yeah that

skip the boss

[icy swan]

anway what should i block then next time

i allready have tons of it blocked

[nocturne maple]

you don't have to block them, those mods by themselves are fine. You just happened to get them all at once in a freak map

[icy swan]

its like 3th times or something

[finite quail]

FREAKY map

https://tenor.com/view/freak-freaky-cat-level-infinity-gif-15287917168381984815

[steel light]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3921896

[icy swan]

i gues after i block those 10 mods only those left xD

[opal ingot]

61 on ridan

what are we doin here

[hard cliff]

Why is nessa in act 1 selling level 15 gems. I am in endgame obv but went back to buy someone some gems for their act 1 charecter :|

[spice pecan]

yeah you gotta use lilly for that

[hard cliff]

No idea any npc sold leveled gems

[nocturne maple]

the gem vendors in town scale their inventory to your level up to a cap

[hard cliff]

that'll be useful

[final owl]

sigh. now 41% shock avoid is going to take me 3 million tries. c'marn rngesus, i want to finish the boots D:

[opal ingot]

where are my tinks bro

im losing money

[crisp obsidian]

Just buy from lillia at hideout

Smh

[hard cliff]

Can you realistically hit dot cap or beyond on slayer bleed slams ? Is it mostly just a league starter or can it scale to facetank ubers ?

[potent bramble]

Okay I need a quick sanity check here. According to the Wiki, Alva's temple determines the area level by taking the average level of the zones that the incursions were in, then adding 10 - but the end result is capped at the highest level incursion done for that particular temple.

Am I correct in understanding, then, that if I did 1 map (4 incursions) in a t15 and the other 8 encounters in a t5 map, then the end result will still be a temple with an area level of 82?

[hard cliff]

I can't afford armour stack scion

[sleek barn]

whats the minion cluster tech with horticrafting?

reroll with similar modifiers?

[karmic gust]

would be surprised if you couldnt

[obsidian wagon]

noob here. im tryin to be able to do the menagerie to use 'suffix cannot be changed' but i havnt unlocked it there. how do i unlock it there?

[oblique ember]

the server im on is lagging so bad i paused and my character kept moving for like 12 seconds

[spice pecan]

i think the beast you need is wild bristle matron?

[opal ingot]

buy a wild bristle matron, right click it in menagerie

[hard cliff]

I'm bout to roll it

[obsidian wagon]

right, do i have to capture him in a map to unlock the recipie first?

[spice pecan]

nah you can just buy one, and go to the menagerie and right click it and it will put it into your bestiary and give you the crafting option

you just need to get a new one every time you want to use the craft

[obsidian wagon]

oh ok ty

[remote sparrow]

The actual craft is on a unique map (can't remember what they changed it to this leauge) but wild bristle matron dosent need you to actually have craft

[oblique ember]

i swapped servers twice and nothing has changed wtf do i even do

[spice pecan]

ye and beastcrafting is cheaper than benching it anyways

[red vessel]

When doing cheaper box strat, is it better to use a templar astrolabe? or don't bother?

[icy swan]

even mobs are super tanky now too

[full kraken]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tagnCKatOsg

[remote sparrow]

Ok I feel like making a attack the servers projectile spam build possibly with trigger bots, whats a good way to do that currently?

[crisp obsidian]

Sands of time + triggerbots + rolling magma probs

With like echo belt

[spice pecan]

rolling magma

[full kraken]

this but with triggerbots instead of gladiator
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/SteffenBlake-0084/characters?characterName=LeSixcanHasArrived

I already proc 15 times per second, with triggerbots thatd be 30, then throw GMP on there for 150 projectiles/sec

[sleek barn]

fuck dude

[remote sparrow]

Sounds good but I thought echo shrine doesn't work with sands of time?

[spice pecan]

just have to solve for insane fucked up mana costs on triggerbots

[tranquil umbra]

pain

[obsidian wagon]

theres no 'prefix cannot be changed' version is there?

[tranquil umbra]

there is

[icy swan]

next one milion horus later.....

[obsidian wagon]

oh ok

[tranquil umbra]

it's the same beast

[full kraken]

how do you filter off valdo maps as a result on trade site? I thought there was a section for foil

[icy swan]

i need block somethign bc its bullshit

[spice pecan]

there is, it's the metacraft beast when your suffixes are full

[tranquil umbra]

you have to adjust your item in a way that makes it so that's the only metacraft that can roll on it

[crisp obsidian]

Well then go acceleration shrine

[crisp obsidian]

What you trying to find

Anyways limiting tier to 16

Blocks all valdo maps afail

[full kraken]

valdo maps are tier 16

[crisp obsidian]

Huhh

[full kraken]

but turns out the trick is item level, valdo maps are item level 100

[nocturne maple]

I just put in the name "map"

[crisp obsidian]

Nah u lying

[nocturne maple]

since valdo maps have the name "valdo map"

[crisp obsidian]

They are 17

I just tested it

[remote sparrow]

Im to poor for acc shrine, likely just use a cord belt for while till I get an okay gloomshrine belt

[calm yacht]

urgh recomb crafting is so annoying

endless altspamming, delete all the nice mods, oops you're out of dust, oops you're out of gold

[remote sparrow]

How much gold u start withM

[gritty epoch]

Spam more bases

[remote sparrow]

Surly like 1m would be enough

[calm yacht]

it probably would be, however I do not have 1m gold

[gritty epoch]

Depends on what are u making I guess

[calm yacht]

shield

[full kraken]

ooh, you know what you were right, I put my min as T16 but not my max lol, Im dumb

[crisp obsidian]

Xddd

[calm yacht]

%ES, +ES, %block

[crisp obsidian]

Happens to all of us

[gritty epoch]

3p is hard

[remote sparrow]

Can you do any semi juicy breach maps? Cuz get one volatile gold mirage and you instantly get like 600k gold

[gritty epoch]

Prefix*

[full kraken]

seriously though I cannot get over how OP 2x unbreakable betrayal scarabs are, why are these things only like 1c

Im able to do a safehouse almost every single map

[rose quail]

People don't like it is all. Bunch of stuff is OP because they dont like it

[tranquil umbra]

because people run betrayal with other things always and rather not waste scarab slots

[calm yacht]

I have occultist explodey so I can kill pretty much any level of juice, the issue is whether I die first. haven't tried yet, good tip though

[full kraken]

Im running it with bestiary so I can definitely afford the 2 slots

before I just used to spend the extra 5th slot on +2 ores per map, cuz there was nothing better

[potent bramble]

They're cheap because they aren't affected by Mirage as well. Same reason why the Incursion Scarab of Timelines (the one that gives you a free temple for finishing the last Incursion each map) is like 5c - and the Incursion Scarab of Champions (35% chance for the incursion enemies to be at least magic) is ~3 scarabs per 2c

[tranquil umbra]

that's why I add Alva to my conq rotas

doesn't get copied by mirage so she doesn't risk pulling the mirage outside the boss

[opal ingot]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[tranquil umbra]

and any temple with t3 doryani/locus is almost 1d

[opal ingot]

state of progress

[tranquil umbra]

• she can randomly drop divines

[blissful coral]

I'm trying to understand the challenge for this, does this have to be t11+ rare maps for it to count?

[obsidian wagon]

so you cant use an esence when you have 'suffix/prefix cannot be changed'???

[karmic gust]

whats the strat even i dont even know how betrayal works nowadays :d

[gritty garnet]

and not failed halfway

[opal ingot]

basically intel rush. you have reinforcement and double unbreaking. get everyone to rank 3 and then you just spam interrogate

the left side

cuz with 2 unbreaking, they dont lose ranks

[tranquil umbra]

2x unbreakable makes it so interrogation does not result in rank loss
so you spam interrogations to farm safehouse exp

it eliminates rank management from the equation

[karmic gust]

ah, that sounds semi fun at least compared to normal betrayal then:d

[fossil mural]

Still want to set up the 2/5 thing

I think?

[tranquil umbra]

I mean yeah

[full kraken]

same as always, you pick your 2 peeps in 2/4 of the "wings" you wanna lock in, and shove everyone else in the other 2

So atm I run Janos+ITF in transport and Haku+Leo in intervention

[opal ingot]

wait, you still 2255?

shiit

i thought anything goes

[fossil mural]

Safehouse rewards are good

[full kraken]

yee, it just means when I get like 4 people who show up for an intervention I just click Interrogate > interrogate > interrogate > bargain or whatever

[opal ingot]

nice. i hae problems where i cant get a rank 1 leader to show up

[full kraken]

no more having to worry about re-ranking them back up after

[opal ingot]

wait did you actually set up the relationships too

[tranquil umbra]

you can see the criss cross yes

[opal ingot]

fuuuck

ok ill pass

[tranquil umbra]

[opal ingot]

ill just go random bs go

[full kraken]

I very often get 4 people who show up to a fight so usually its:

1. Kill a member of transport or intervetion for the 4 intel on that "free"
2. Interrogate everyone else
3. maybe pick bargain on last person if they offer me currency or scarabs

[full kraken]

yes you want only relationships between your target members and everyone else

I have 1 fuckass one here Im still trying to eliminate

[opal ingot]

me

[full kraken]

that vorici <> gravicius link is unwanted, if either ever gives the option to neutralize it I take it, but it hasnt been offered yet

[opal ingot]

accidentally removed one member

[full kraken]

if you wanna just spam for just the safehouse "kill" rewards, its all g

but I really love how janus shits out like 50k gold everytime I run that safehouse, cant give that up lol

and maybe one day Ill hit the jackpot on ITF's box

[remote sparrow]

Can anyone tell me what the price of divination scarb of cloister going for? I can't check at work rn

[fossil mural]

Like 1.2c

[final owl]

1.4c per rn

[remote sparrow]

Mmmmmmm I may need to make a ritual tree with that info

[final owl]

decks at 2.9c easy lazy money probs

[remote sparrow]

Spam x 5 of those scarbs and resummon the mobs woth ritual and get like 80 stack decks a map

[full kraken]

toink

[remote sparrow]

Not sure what else to run with that though, what else works with/ supports ritual but can't use scarbs just map effect?

[final owl]

red or blue shrines + ritual + cloister is the normal decks strat i guess

[full kraken]

heist, ores

[tranquil umbra]

do you have exiles

[remote sparrow]

Didn't they nerf the absolute shit out of exiles in rituals?

[opal ingot]

how many fb mb cards u got from itf

3?

[remote sparrow]

@full kraken hiest is a good call

[opal ingot]

stacked decks is so cringe

demands an 8 mod map and its so fuckin rippy

but you only get 7-10d per hour

not to be a div per hour andy but

imagine farming the entire day doing stacked decks and you barely make any divines xd

[full kraken]

just 1 so far

[true falcon]

I have ran harvest every map since league start and 0 oshabi invites

[gritty epoch]

did u hide it from filter

[opal ingot]

ive been printing sacred blossoms lol

[dreamy crane]

why does my runegraft drop like its rare but otd only worth 1 c lol

i see like 10 different prices

[true falcon]

Have y'all been crop rota or regular?

[gritty epoch]

Just doubling

[remote sparrow]

Do stack decks interact with any map alters?

[gritty epoch]

And astrolabe of course

[nocturne maple]

basic currency double chance

[full kraken]

I always find crop rotation has better yield

[true falcon]

I ran 3 back to back astrolabes and not even a single unique mob

[opal ingot]

regular because the fucking astrolabe HEAVILY favors non-crop rota

[gritty epoch]

Clearly u messed up something or giga unlucky

[opal ingot]

they ruined muh strat...

but the nagain

blue and yellow are roughly same price

so many it's not joever

[gritty epoch]

Astrolabe is a bit like crop rotation as in u need to think a bit so I don't mind

[opal ingot]

in a non fun way!

crop rota feels like gambling

[gritty epoch]

[final owl]

i like crop rota over not, it at least makes harvest into a kinda mini-game

[opal ingot]

ikr

[icy swan]

map limit on the server have cap now

[opal ingot]

swap hideoujt

[gritty epoch]

If u get the 2x of rare "non wilt chance" I reckon u could go crop rota?

[opal ingot]

and go back to your original hideout

[opal ingot]

as long as i get 1 single wilt mod i run crop rota

[true falcon]

What's your rancour - sacred blossom ratio?

[icy swan]

in crop rotation u need think ? just open all and yellow last xD

[opal ingot]

a trillion to one

rancours are just printing

[icy swan]

i seen some vid that crop rtot dead ?

[opal ingot]

there are some times where yellow last is not the best option

and sometimes yellow last option yeah, but htere are multiple yellow last options

[icy swan]

maybe with current leage wher blue is nice,
but ususaly yelow moust expensive

[opal ingot]

then sometimes you have to weigh whether to risk sacrificing the 2nd to the last yellow plot to juice up the lastyellow pl;ot

[full kraken]

it feels weird that yeeting these things onto the ground is marginally faster than hitting the little X

[icy swan]

like yelow 20:1 blue 50-60 so i gues never worth blue over yellow

[opal ingot]

is the sum of the last 2 yellow plots potentially greater than the last plot being potentially juiced

[knotty viper]

is there still a 5 link in a5?

[gritty epoch]

I think I got 200+ rancoura so far

[full kraken]

pretty much always worth it cuz T4s are worth tremendously more than a T3

[opal ingot]

answerable by dividing the t2 of the last plot by 4 and adding it up with its t3

[gritty epoch]

Maybe 300

[icy swan]

what strategy to drop for harvest - maps/breach/blight ?

[high spoke]

constant spikes + shroud walker is so annoying lol

[opal ingot]

1 t4 is around 5 t3s, but it takes way too long to kill them, as well as upgrade chance being significantly smaller than t2->t3 being 25%

[high spoke]

maps are worth nothing i would drop that imo

[gritty epoch]

1 rancour plot is almost a T4 and much faster

[drowsy eagle]

this mod is like literally throwing MB away

I think Imma swap a HH

[icy swan]

might be, then how to make better with breach ? like u hunt for lucky div drops ?
i did 3 maps, one got 2 d, one 1d, one nothing but i gues 1d from breach map is better than all maps xD

[opal ingot]

labyrinth hazards? aw hell nah

[devout shoal]

are ubers even worth doing

[high spoke]

I'm personally doing 2 unstable 2 magic pack and 1 increasing rarity with 2 deli orbs

[devout shoal]

i spent 50d already and got 5d back

[drowsy eagle]

spend another 50d

[devout shoal]

yeah i will

[high spoke]

and self sustaining 16.5 is nice which i don't think should be a thing

[devout shoal]

i wont stop until i get something

[drowsy eagle]

that's the spirit

[mystic socket]

can someone help me try to understand my build pls

i have all the gear and gems

i just dont know how it works

it also wont let me send a pob

so heres the code

[final owl]

there is a button to convert that string to a pobb.in link

[mystic socket]

ik

it isnt working

[drowsy eagle]

[final owl]

that uh.. doesn't look quite right

[drowsy eagle]

is this pob 300 bil dps

[mystic socket]

nah theres like

quite a few setups

12 actually

12 gear sets, 12 trees, 12 gems

[rose quail]

Use the export feature

To pobb.in

[mystic socket]

thats what im trying to do

[mystic socket]

thats what this is

[pulsar ice]

https://poedb.tw/pob/1GrRxsGSzQ if that works for this build idk

[devout shoal]

oh wow divs per hour from eater are so low considering average luck

[drowsy eagle]

I mean where did you get that pob

[mystic socket]

idr

i have it saved on pob

[devout shoal]

its like under 15d/h im oretty sure

[mystic socket]

so im running spectres

[final owl]

ok back to "where the hell is Aul"

[mystic socket]

and i dont have enough mana to summon a spectre, so what if they die mid fight?

[potent bramble]

@mystic socket Is that Helm Breaker's Spectre build?

[icy swan]

how u self sustain ? so u roling maps slef, i always bught maps but u cant deli corupted one rip

[mystic socket]

it might be ziz

idr

and on the glove gem setup

why are there 3

[drowsy eagle]

they ded for the rest of the map

[potent bramble]

If you got it off Ziz's channel, it's most likely the collab he did with HelmBreaker

[finite quail]

6 link immortal call alkLFG

[devout shoal]

why play spectres when you can do anything else

[tranquil umbra]

rip to the dot cap regen tech

[mystic socket]

i heard they were broken

[mystic socket]

oh

[devout shoal]

i prefer golems

[finite quail]

Consecrated path chud

[mystic socket]

🙁

so why are there 3 glove gem setups

[pulsar ice]

patched or they said they were aware of the problem and are going to fix asap?

[tranquil umbra]

patched

The Damage Reduction from Soul Eater stacks is now capped at 90% less damage taken on Monsters and Player Minions.

[mystic socket]

i cant have 3 spectres on 1 gem?

so why it say turtle, forest warrior, and carnage chief

[pulsar ice]

you can at gem level 25

[mystic socket]

oh, then i can

how i do that

[potent bramble]

Have you ever done a spectre build? B/c there's some ground information that it expects you to have lol

[mystic socket]

and what if they die

[mystic socket]

no never

[rapid wadi]

anyone know if they are going to add a list of maps back to the map stash tab so we can tell if we have completed them?

[mystic socket]

i have played since legion and never touched minions at all

[finite quail]

probably not

[mystic socket]

closest i got was detonate dead

[pulsar ice]

usually +2 on the wand, +2 on the helmet and +1 either on the boots or by corrupting the gem

[finite quail]

because maps dont work that way anymore

[mystic socket]

I have +2 on wand, +1 on boots, +1 on helm

[rapid wadi]

i get that part, but it was one of the selling points of the map stash tab, its a code change for sure, but seems like a huge oversight

[spice pecan]

i had three league mechanics in my haunted mansion and the mirage missed all of them

omegalul

[drowsy eagle]

I bet it got the shrine

[spice pecan]

it did

[mystic socket]

so how do i know, other than just testing it, if my minions will eat shit or kick ass?

[potent bramble]

Okay so. The build's gonna have you stacking a combination of "+X maximum number of raised spectres" and +X to gem level (a few different types but it's all meant to hit the Raise Spectre gem). The number of spectres you can have is a global thing - IIRC it's aiming for a total of 12 spectres. 9 of them will be Forged Frostbearers, the other 3 will be one each of the specific corpses it notes in the build. You'll need to use the right skill/gem setup to summon the appropriate spectres, so that they have the correct support gems affecting them

[finite quail]

play the game

[mystic socket]

ok

[rose quail]

Well, first you could just make a backup, nuke half of setups and try exporting that

[remote sparrow]

Yo does anyone know if the added mobs from divination of the cloister are usually magic?

[potent bramble]

If your spectres die, they turn into little ghostly ball-things that follow you around the zone, and they auto-respawn when you exit the map. When you're actively mapping/fighting bosses, you're mostly just there as a support for the Frostbearers, you aren't really doing any active combat

[mystic socket]

yeah with the current setup i will have 7 frostbearers and 3 in gloves

[tranquil umbra]

if I'm running inscription without catalyzing I should only run 1 bribery right

[finite quail]

they are always magic

iirc

[opal ingot]

and they will kick your ass

[remote sparrow]

Tyty ima add that to my tree then

[pulsar ice]

lol, I got the actual 2 connected nod in delve near an obstructed room

[remote sparrow]

Im 96% att and spell block im fine lol

[mystic socket]

how do i individually summon the spectres it calls for in the gloves

[potent bramble]

& with regards to if they're good or not... it's gonna depend on how well you followed the guide. Properly set up, they're arguably one of the strongest summoner builds that currently exists. If you try and change things, you're gonna throw off the groove and probably feel weaker than other players would as a result

[mystic socket]

just right click in my inv obv then hit the gem?

[high spoke]

a lot of maps just drop from the breach/beyond mobs so i average just a little over 1 16.5 map drop per map.

[opal ingot]

nooo

nvm

[mystic socket]

only different thing is gems basically

im also underleveled rn

[high spoke]

and yeah i self roll the 16.5 and slap on two orbs

[mystic socket]

gear is EXTREMELY similar

[potent bramble]

Buy/find the correct corpses, place on ground (in a map/combat zone, not your hideout is my suggestion), then use the correct Raise Spectre gem to summon from that corpse

[primal mortar]

is anyone on USA DC server disconnecting

[mystic socket]

place on ground as in desecrate

[pulsar ice]

in the controls settings in game bind the target corpse to some button, while holding it hover over the corpse to make sure you are targeting the right one and click the summon spectre ability. If your monster is itemized and is in your inventory, go to the aspirants plaza and right click the item to make it drop as a corpse to the ground

[finite quail]

yeah, you are

[mystic socket]

i heard it was bad

[high spoke]

cali and getting huge spikes

[mystic socket]

im on tx realm and its dogshit

[potent bramble]

Gear is similar because it's progression - it's got 12 loadouts but it's all one build. The idea is that you start with whichever set of gear/gems/tree is marked with {1} in the loadout dropdown list, use it to farm the currency to upgrade to the one marked with {2} and so on

[viscid ruin]

ggg should have given us the option to still use this map menu....

[mystic socket]

well right

im just saying i followed what it showed well so i shouldnt be going wrong ther

just gem levels really

since i bought from lilly

and my own level

[slow sonnet]

Does anyone have any tips for crafting clusters?

[final owl]

[slow sonnet]

Or is it alt+regal+ex until I get what I want

[mystic socket]

alt regal ex

imprint depending on how expensive it is

[slow sonnet]

[solemn pumice]

How do I imbue a gem?

[potent bramble]

Ye. So run some low-level maps or farm Blood Aquaducts or w/e if you're feeling weak, can't expect to see level 90 performance from a level 60 character

[mystic socket]

yea

[final owl]

Time to murder an Aul

[mystic socket]

well im level 87 but still

[pulsar ice]

special currency

[mystic socket]

coins

specifically coin of knowledge power and the othjer one

[slow sonnet]

I don't think you can jump into red maps anymore, you have to do early maps

[finite quail]

correct

Well, not true

incorrect

you just buy red maps and run em

[slow sonnet]

Wait I'm looking at it no I can use the red map

Lol, still funny

[uneven path]

i need help to complete aul 🙁 lvl 95 and i have never done delve b4 tbh

[slow sonnet]

I do like that it let's you run your favorite map as a red map early

[surreal mulch]

you literally cant use it until you do at least like 8 maps or something

[potent bramble]

Yeah you can run t16s from the jump, but you have to unlock each map layout by running a map connected to it on the Atlas

[surreal mulch]

imagine if it's not him and just a random magic wolf instead that happens to look like that

[dark kite]

holy shit todays uber lab is fast

[pulsar ice]

lol tf is that delve generation

[tranquil umbra]

thank you for reminding me this

[surreal mulch]

hard rock layer

[potent bramble]

😲 no Golden Key? Straight shot through the 3rd section!? 6 total non-Izaro rooms required!??!

[surreal mulch]

also you very likely already have a hidden route leading to aul

from the central node there

[gritty garnet]

yeah that's on the azurite left

[tranquil umbra]

well seven rooms if you want an extra darkshrine

[pulsar ice]

yeah I sent a screenshot earlier where there was a 2 connected node, there is none there, as wierd as it is

[potent bramble]

True, but with a layout like this it'd probably be faster to just run the lab again instead of worrying about the extra shrine lmao

[surreal mulch]

yeah but what if I was really craving another unique to go straight into the loot filter

[potent bramble]

Also I wished for frogs in a t15 map and only got two packs of frogs. I feel cheated. I wanted a veritable rain of frogs 😛

[surreal mulch]

get the frogflame for more frog

[potent bramble]

No space for frogflame, need scarabs

[surreal mulch]

imagine

[potent bramble]

Wasn't even gonna run the Mirage but frogs

[zealous flax]

Chefin explode cant be scaled right? It's just by monster hp

[tranquil umbra]

ye

[zealous flax]

Ooey

[tranquil umbra]

but like 250% is so high

[zealous flax]

Yeah

[rose quail]

It's by monster HP and can be scaled by ignite

[tranquil umbra]

oh right ignite scaling does make the damage after the explosion nuclear also

[zealous flax]

Omg I love your pfp, mommy karlack

[rose quail]

[zealous flax]

So I could do a cheiftin holy hammer build with that new axe to scale ignites right?

[rose quail]

No clue about the hammer part.

[zealous flax]

With ignite prolif on gloves

[surreal mulch]

is uber sirus the hardest guy currently

[hexed egret]

When do builds socket in a rational doctrine

Like why would a build use one

[dark kite]

read holy hammers again

[finite quail]

because it looks pretty

[zealous flax]

I haven't read any part of what I'm cooking up

[rose quail]

When you need the regen. Like to sustain Annihilations approach

[zealous flax]

Just head thoughts

[dark kite]

so the problem with grey wind holy hammers

is that you cant do that

mace, scepter or staff only

[zealous flax]

Hammer

Rivut

[hexed egret]

Is it worth the effort to balance str/int

[zealous flax]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-spider-man-web-of-shadows-depressed-sad-gif-16524395

[surreal mulch]

if you have some extra other effect applied to hallowed ground it's a super easy source of it plus it makes it linger on you which makes it super consistent

[warped zenith]

During merc league I used it on trickster zenith for crit using the whatever ground it creates

[hexed egret]

I'm thinking of dropping stormshroud for it

I won't be ignite immune

[rose quail]

No. But there are some builds that just have it baked in the build so if it's trivial to do and you are a crit build it's doable

[hexed egret]

But shock and chill and freeze is covered

[rose quail]

But not worth explicitly aiming for

[hexed egret]

Ah

I want to offset the rage degen from zerker

[rose quail]

Yeah that sounds like just use the str part. Idk how good it would work tho

[final owl]

aight. now to grind out 39% of a level because i have a feeling Aul is going to smash me flat a few times.

[hexed egret]

I'm too lazy to press berserk to remove my rage

[finite quail]

oshabi bloodline removes rage

[final owl]

use oshabi bloodline then, rage automatically resets after hitting 50

[proud gorge]

I just realized, I have no idea how this build is supposed to sustain mana costs

[hexed egret]

Oh but don't I want my rage to be perma on

[warped zenith]

Going from really high attack speed from rage to losing it all is going feel like clunk I imagine

[finite quail]

and it gives you 100% inc phys, 10% action speed, cant be stunned and ignore pdr

and +20 rage

and +2 rage on hit

and it refreshes the buff whenever you get max rage again

[final owl]

it's not perma on, it refreshes the buff and drops to zero whenever it hits 50

[hexed egret]

But what do I give up on zerker

[livid quarry]

it basically doesnt inc ur dmg most of the time bc by the time u kill the map boss

[proud gorge]

even in the PoB it shows that its spending 67.38 mana per second, but only has the natural 23.1 mana regen per second

[hexed egret]

40% more damage?

[warped zenith]

Defy pain

If you die you die xdd

[hexed egret]

No I mean I have to give up a zerker point

[warped zenith]

Yeah defy pain if you have it

[tranquil umbra]

defy pain is a zerker point

[hexed egret]

What

[warped zenith]

Take it off and see if you start dying a lot

[hexed egret]

Why would I take that

[warped zenith]

If not then there's your points

[hexed egret]

I am not taking it

[warped zenith]

Because it's a mini defiance?

[hexed egret]

It's like 4 points in rage 2 in warcry, 2 in 40% more

So it's like every point is accounted for

[warped zenith]

Ah right that kinda sucks

[surreal mulch]

they should add a noita league

[hexed egret]

Unless I drop 40% more damage

[proud gorge]

looks like the builds solve the mana cost issue with imbued lifetap, but that's, like, 60 div lmao

[hexed egret]

[warped zenith]

Maybe flesh flame one of them?

It's 2 jewel sockets though

[wintry lily]

just fix rage degen by doing the fake pathfinder tech

[tight plinth]

The Damage Reduction from Soul Eater stacks is now capped at 90% less damage taken on Monsters and Player Minions.

[hexed egret]

Fake pathfinder?

[tight plinth]

wait wait wait

[surreal mulch]

20 socket slots but you can't heal

[tight plinth]

it used to go over 90%????

[surreal mulch]

yeah but there was only one singular source of more maximum soul eater

[tranquil umbra]

if you got +maximum souls eaten

[warped zenith]

Soul eater is funny. I used to put it on my merc in merc league and they could tank quad ghosted deli feared

[tranquil umbra]

it could get to 100%

now it cannot

[warped zenith]

The atziri vaal flameblast doesn't even dent their hp

[wintry lily]

#1┃general message @hexed egret

[tranquil umbra]

hmm

[hexed egret]

Wait isn't this 20% more attack damage

That doesn't sound too bad right

[warped zenith]

Yes but you lose it when go over 50

[tranquil umbra]

companionship support ag
or ag + support spectres

[spice pecan]

eu people are logging onto cali

[stuck phoenix]

if you can't otherwise get Rage, yes

[hexed egret]

I get like 100% Phys damage with savagery for 7s

[warped zenith]

He wants the rage to disappear at times

[hexed egret]

It's 1s per 10 rage

[wintry lily]

just do laviangas quaffing geyser balbala tides of time

[hexed egret]

I have the 2 rage per warcry mastery

[warped zenith]

Don't you also lose a massive amount of attack speed when the rage drops?

[hexed egret]

That actually doesn't sound like an awful deal

Rage doesn't give attack speed right

[warped zenith]

When you're zerker it does

[hexed egret]

Hold up let me check

[tranquil umbra]

yes it does

for zerk

[hexed egret]

Oh fuck you're right

[warped zenith]

Inherent Rage Loss starts 2 seconds later
Every Rage also grants 1% increased Attack Speed

[hexed egret]

I don't want to lose the speed

[surreal mulch]

theres sources of minimum rage if you don't want to lose your attack speed so you build it up faster

[hexed egret]

Staff nodes have zero attack speed

[oblique ember]

cant wait to delete entire astrolobe

[surreal mulch]

but it's probably easier to just get attack speed

maybe like blood rage or some shit

[hexed egret]

I'll have 0 es if I go blood rage

I think it's easier if I resolve regen

[opal ingot]

All it takes is one split

[surreal mulch]

take divine shield or something idk

[wintry lily]

the humble sorrow of the divine /s

[hexed egret]

I was actually thinking of that

Am I cooked

[tranquil umbra]

yes

[wintry lily]

Ive been pathfinder-pilled for too long

[surreal mulch]

I think the best approach is to constantly allocate and unallocate the astrolabe keystone

[tranquil umbra]

that means you have to run the other layouts

[surreal mulch]

if you're focusing on the actual map mods you're getting then it's kinda inevitable

[wintry lily]

@karmic gust can you quaffing laviangas with sorrow of the divine yet

[tranquil umbra]

I mean even if you lose the astrolabe
that means you get the vault early

[wintry lily]

or is it still dead

[surreal mulch]

if you don't I guess they just force you to deal with shittier astrolabes

[tranquil umbra]

and that's free money

[opal ingot]

Do vaults scale with cleared astrolabes

[tranquil umbra]

no

[karmic gust]

no

[opal ingot]

What

That's so cringe

Or maybe it's for the better

[tranquil umbra]

well

[surreal mulch]

they should but the problem is if they did it would make the keystone even worse

[tranquil umbra]

you need to have cleared the astrolabe properly

[wintry lily]

cant believe ggg wont fix this crucial bug

[tranquil umbra]

as in you need to have completed the objective in every map you've been given

but if they get cut early

[mystic socket]

how do i turn beast into spectre

[tranquil umbra]

then it doesn't care about the loss

[opal ingot]

Ah that's pretty neat

[karmic gust]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3916032 just bookkmark an wait for the fix :d

[wintry lily]

tbf i only wanted to know so i can drag vulpix into the route of pseudopathfinder on zerker

[hexed egret]

I think I can drop stormshroud for rational doctrine

I mean consecrated ground gives me life regeneration

And some curse defence

[potent bramble]

It'd be nice if the keystone specifically pulled the map that was furthest from the one you're running, so it doesn't accidentally cut out 90% of the blob

[hexed egret]

Can't be the worst jewel for a socket

[tranquil umbra]

do you have ailment avoidance from somewhere else

[mystic socket]

my pob says i need carnage chieftain as a spectre

[icy swan]

hmm nothing from this breach

[hexed egret]

Boots have chill and shock, freeze from pantheon

[opal ingot]

Turn up the strictness wtf

[icy swan]

and i gues quite jucy map, 60% delerium make it quite harder

[hexed egret]

I have no ignite or burn immunity

But who cares

[rose quail]

What rings are you using?

[hexed egret]

Just rare rings

[rose quail]

Corrupt for ignite immunity YOLO

[hexed egret]

No

Like I feel rational doctrine isn't a bad jewel to have

Stormshroud has so little value

Feels weird to have a marauder with almost no life regen lol

[opal ingot]

Meee

My marauder relies on leech

Like any other char

[finite quail]

these for a total of 80c is criminal wtf is up with that price lmao

[hexed egret]

[drowsy eagle]

so that's why I deal no damage

[hexed egret]

What does it do

I can't look it up

[finite quail]

lvl 20 fist of war for your body armor

or lvl 30 ancestral call

[hexed egret]

Is that good for holy hammer

[finite quail]

duh

[hexed egret]

Hmmm

I wonder why nobody is using fist of war with hammers actually

[worldly bridge]

i lost 600 chaos in value because of harvest bench

but thats ok because now breach astrolabes arent four divines

[hexed egret]

What

Oh that

[worldly bridge]

i took a two day break and they added the harvest swap

to labes

dropped price of grasping 4x

[hexed egret]

I think it's a good thing

[worldly bridge]

it is a good thing

i literally.. said that

[gritty epoch]

If I were running Templar astrolabes I would be pissed tbh

[sleek barn]

rog didn't give me the +1

[worldly bridge]

did they raise?

[gritty epoch]

Surely

[finite quail]

wtf I thought multistrike and fist of war didnt work together

[hexed egret]

It does but I don't think you can override the cooldown

[finite quail]

no

its one big slam per skill use

[hexed egret]

Yes

Why would that not work

[finite quail]

im agreeing with you

[finite quail]

I remember trying it earlier and not being able to use fist of war

[spice pecan]

lmao bannerman with accel shrine makes flicker look slow as hell

im getting nauseous playing this

[finite quail]

like it wouldnt add the border icon or the big slam

with multistrike on

[gritty garnet]

unless you do funny animation cancelling I don't think you can line up multistrike with fist

[hexed egret]

I don't see the point of fist of war with multistrike