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[bright cosmos]

Huh PoE2? Is that still out?

[dense salmon]

does count as having maximum number or endurance charges mean i got max charge at all time ?

[thorn lotus]

very, since most attacks will cap your per instance leech, you'd now getting that per hit instead of per 5 seconds

[earnest raven]

Le sigh, i miss when ex was rare and selling 6l gave divs

[split maple]

it means you have them at max for all practical purposes except just you dont have them so cannot spend them

[pulsar dune]

You get the stats from max charges, but can't spend charges

[crisp obsidian]

I don't

[rose quail]

I don't. So much better these days

[earnest raven]

I miss divining for cheap

[dense salmon]

so i get the damage reduction but cant spend them ok got it thanks

[pseudo axle]

mirage league is so good and old poe was kinda miserable

[limpid prairie]

but i need to be hitting so its like itll be better for 50% leech to be instaant isnt that right?

[crisp obsidian]

Mirage league would be insanely good if ggg did bugfixes and some changes

[balmy pike]

What's the general goal for those breach fortress things. Do I want to break the walls so the waves can come in?...

[atomic torrent]

can i skip all my labs if i do only the 4th lab on a new char?

[pseudo axle]

yes imho

[split maple]

no

[crisp obsidian]

Depends on your build

[rose quail]

You want to have Aelith finish the thing. Depending on what makes it easier for you to protect her you break or keep the walls

[frigid wedge]

my life b like

[earnest raven]

[balmy pike]

hmm. so the goal is for her to survive the 5 (that's the # im encountering now) waves.
But killing more mobs durign the waves means more of the "currency" thing yeah?

[lucid gale]

PoE2 is mid-late 0.4 currently, 0.5 info "towards end of April".

[lucid gale]

The more of the little icons on the minimap you pop, the rougher the encounter will be.
The more walls you destroy, the easier they have to reach you but you might have it easier to move and kill.
I've assumed that killing more mobs is beneficial, but don't actually know.

[frail igloo]

anyone playing Palsteron's KF ballista know why he replaced arrogance with enlighten? what's the benefit here apart from gaining back a little life?

[rose quail]

Not sure actually. I think the tier matters more.

[balmy pike]

interesting. do you pop those little minimap things before starting hte encounter, or can you do it during

[fossil mural]

A little life goes a long way

[earnest raven]

Thats why i take breaks and go out with friends

[lucid gale]

I've assumed it's before, never left any for the actual encounter to tell.

[loud idol]

Any crafters interested in this?

[frigid wedge]

lookin at a poe ninja and this mf has imbued greater volley

[tawdry olive]

random thought but i kinda just realized.. they finally managed to kill crop rotation

cornucopia supremacy this league

astrolabes are certainly something

[cosmic raptor]

are there any cold builds?

[tawdry olive]

that cold is inconsequential compared to the rest of this jewel

[cosmic raptor]

unlucky

[crisp obsidian]

??

[leaden blaze]

Anyone have a 4 link red gloves I can have I just ate 50 chromatics and all my gold trying to get one

[cosmic raptor]

??

[cosmic raptor]

i can give you some chromatics

[pliant valley]

bro why they made reliquarian look like an alcoholic

[leaden blaze]

I'll end up eating them too with my luck

[cosmic raptor]

@Pawseh message me

[steep sphinx]

what happens if I raise a perfect corpse as a spectre then override him? do i lose him forever?

[leaden blaze]

Ty

[fierce rock]

so i have a really good farm going, made a ton of divs today. but it's really boring 🙁

i feel like i got hit with a monkey paw wish

[proud gorge]

Depends where you are. If you're in your hideout, upon "overwriting" or "losing" a paid spectre, it will drop onto the ground as a raiseable corpse

this includes when desocketing the Raise Spectre gem

be careful to turn off any automatic corpse-consuming skills before doing so though

[dense salmon]

are endurance charges suposed to show at the top of the screen ?

[proud gorge]

yes

[leaden blaze]

Is 4 red just harder to get than all the others I've gotten 4 green and blue so many times

[proud gorge]

depends on socket weighting

[leaden blaze]

How do I see that?

[proud gorge]

there's a whole formula for it, but generally speaking an item's attribute requirements cause a weighting for the socket colors

[crisp obsidian]

Depends on attri requirements

Also you can use bench

[proud gorge]

so an item that requires Int will be much more likely to roll blue sockets than red or green

[crisp obsidian]

To color 4 socket items

[granite grotto]

str = red
int = blue
dex = green

so on an int/dex base, 4 red is kinda tricky

[proud gorge]

and having two attribute requirements heavily weights it away from the third color

but often the best way to off-color is what's known as the Jeweller Trick

what you do is get the first two colors using a forced two color benchcraft, like "two red sockets". These will always be the first two sockets in the item.

[grim pivot]

https://siveran.github.io/calc.html

[signal shoal]

want to try some afl farm build( like blights)
that i can choose? chains of command?

[fierce rock]

yeah just use the vorici calc

[leaden blaze]

Ok so building for energy shield and evasion as melee just hurts then got it

[proud gorge]

then you repeatedly alternate between the two-socket and three-socket craft

which adds and removes the third socket

until you get the color you want

[steep sphinx]

ok tyvm!!

[proud gorge]

then you do the same with four and three socket until you get the fourth socket the color that you want

that's typically the best way to get four off-colors

since otherwise getting four off-colors using pure chromatic rolling or chromatic crafting is incredibly expensive and also random

[elfin spire]

are astrolabes not a thing on PS?

[proud gorge]

and the socket trick is a lot easier now, since now you can Control + Click the socket craft to instantly craft it

instead of having to click the option, then click craft, then click the next option, then click craft, over and over and over again

which was very painful

[dense salmon]

i dont see the endurance but my phys res go to 69% to 85% with the boots on so i guess its working

[proud gorge]

oh, you're using the boots?

[dense salmon]

yeah]

[proud gorge]

yeah the boots don't actually give you Endurance Charges, so it won't show up in the buff bar

it simply lets you act as though you have max endurance charges

you can in fact still gain endurance charges while having the boots equipped, which is useful for some builds that both want to wear the boots for max charge benefits but also needs to generate and spend actual charges

since obviously you can't spend nonexistent charges

[dense salmon]

do they stack ? probably not

[glass elk]

is there a way to convert your fragments of knowledge and shape i have 3 knowledges and no shapes

[proud gorge]

they don't no

[crisp obsidian]

Wait what???

Why no one told me

[leaden blaze]

I don't understand why everything in this game has to be gamble sockets seem super important to build anything so why am I required to suffer gambling hell just to enjoy the game

[proud gorge]

usually there's some Currency Exchange trades up to trade one fragment for the other

[proud gorge]

the point is that you don't

[split maple]

horticrafting bench

[proud gorge]

use the jeweller trick, its very consistent and easy

oh yeah, I forgot there's a Harvest craft for that

[glass elk]

thank youu

[crisp obsidian]

Rng does not equal gambling

[fringe idol]

Is anyone on duelist that is bossing?

[proud gorge]

I usually just currency exchange the fragments

[raven spade]

div from a bronze mirage cache

fuckk

i gotta open all of these now

[proud gorge]

I mean, its basically a chest

[cosmic raptor]

love being chased by 67 volatile cores at once, cool game

[proud gorge]

you can get divs out of chests

I know some people take the spell mastery that opens chests on spell cast for exactly that reason

[steep sphinx]

any way to know if this can have 4 sockets?

[leaden blaze]

It is by definition gambling playing a game of chance for an expected outcome for everything is in fact gambling.

[cosmic raptor]

it can have 4 sockets

[steep sphinx]

alr ty

[finite quail]

because its an arpg

[onyx adder]

Sure, why wouldnt it be able to

[steep sphinx]

jst making sure lol, Im too broke to afford mistakes

[onyx adder]

Theres no socket cap on items other than the obvious one, some very low level items need the crafting bench to force it though

[crimson hearth]

i feel extra weak i know theres alot to change but where do i start this is the guide im following https://pobb.in/R3f72NUe9mQd (set to earlygame filter) and this is my pob https://pobb.in/VRbpiTy5Nuem

[sleek barn]

your attack speed is lacking

[steep sphinx]

I see okay ty

[sleek barn]

and your life

[crisp obsidian]

Except there's strategy to it so it by definition is not gambling

[crimson hearth]

i meant dps

[crisp obsidian]

You can control the outcome

[sleek barn]

ig for dps yeah just your attack speed is lacking

this is just from a glance

[crimson hearth]

theres like alot of nodes missing and obv change gear and add vaal gs but idk where to start

[leaden blaze]

So poker isn't gambling

[rose quail]

Gambling stragey requires gambling

[crisp obsidian]

Also there is no outcome where the value is increased

[crisp obsidian]

Poker is a card game

It is not gambling lmao

[onyx adder]

I mean i agree its gambling but i also dont think u should play this game if u dislike gambling to the extent that sockets offend u

[leaden blaze]

It is also a game where one gambles and requires strategy I fail to see your view.

[proud gorge]

I mean, "gambling" is where you risk X amount to potentially gain much more than X, randomly. In the case of recoloring sockets, you risk essentially nothing and there's no downside for failing.

and also it's impossible to fail permanently because you'll always succeed eventually

and also it costs very little to succeed eventually

[crisp obsidian]

Calling everything rng based gambling is cringe behaviour

And will only result in bad things

[proud gorge]

and also, if using the jeweller method, you don't even lose progress and are guarenteed to succeed within a pretty small number of attempts

[crimson hearth]

i could start by getting a better chest like 3.5k armour then a 700dps axe maybe and add vaal gs obviously spec the remaining nodes

[onyx adder]

It lacks nuance but its not wrong

[crimson hearth]

but there are some nodes speced in the guide that are questionable

[onyx adder]

Poker for any stakes is gambling, its also has a skill component

Both can be true

[proud gorge]

but poker isn't inherently gambling, it only becomes gambling when you're adding the stakes

[leaden blaze]

Exactly

[onyx adder]

Every crafting in poe has stakes, ie the currency u put in

[proud gorge]

if you're playing poker with friends, with bottlecaps standing in for chips, it's not exactly gambling

[onyx adder]

It's gambling

[crisp obsidian]

You can remove the stakes part and it is still poker

[proud gorge]

sure, those bottlecaps have some technical value

but its low enough that nobody would realistically call that "gambling"

and in the end nobody's going to keep any of them probably

[rose quail]

Nah, they absolutely would

[crisp obsidian]

In 10 years we will see all rng based mechanics banned cause people keep calling them gambling

[onyx adder]

I do, and i think its obviously gambling

[sleek barn]

I love gambling

[proud gorge]

they're just going in the trash at the end anyways

[onyx adder]

Since when does the quantum change the nature

[karmic gust]

only remaining defense will be evasion because of entropy

[rose quail]

Like if there is no gambling then there is no gambling. Play poker just for who wins and loses and that's not gambling

[cobalt tulip]

how low is the coin droprate ?

[sleek barn]

very

[onyx adder]

I mean if ur scared of the word gambling because ppl dont like the word gambling thats a different argument

[crimson hearth]

like this 3 nodes for like 5% ele res and 3% max res???
why

[onyx adder]

And i mean i get it

But it doesnt stop gambling being gambling

[crisp obsidian]

Progenesis is not rng 😎

[pliant jungle]

how rare is such a ring btw ? and how expensiv in general ?

[leaden blaze]

In this game your gambling your time but I was enjoying the story and the smooth progression until suddenly I needed to scale so hard at act 6 that I have to basically reroll all my gear

[crisp obsidian]

No, I am saying it's bad to call stuff gambling that is not gambling cause it will result in bad outcome

[onyx adder]

Anyway is socket colours gambling, yes obviously

Is it a bad thing, no not particularly

[crimson hearth]

i doubt its worth much

[cobalt tulip]

also in physical mastery there is 40% inc phys dmg for skills which cost like , does that mean like even if the skill cost 1 life and rest all is mana , I still get that inc ?

[proud gorge]

the word gambling has a very specific and legal definition, that's highly relevant, because children aren't allowed to gamble, and in many countries/states gambling is banned

[onyx adder]

Are u gonna have a bad time in poe if recolouring ur gear in act 6 is too much rng, yes obviously

[crisp plinth]

legal definitions dont matter much when chat is distributed anywhere in the world

[formal vault]

guys how much is a bloodline ascendancy carry?

[proud gorge]

the point is that saying "oh anything RNG-based is gambling" is dumb. Like, you can call it a bunch of things, but gambling is a real term with real legal definitions in most countries.

[rose quail]

Yes. And the only difference between gambling in a game and gambling as the legal term that qualifies ban is the tie in to real life value.

[onyx adder]

Ppl trying to argue legal definitions in anonymous global chat is probably one of the dumber things ive seen this week

[sleek barn]

depends on the bloodline

[onyx adder]

Which given its launch week is a high bar

[formal vault]

Lycia

[rose quail]

So if you gamble for bottle caps it's gambling but not regulated by law.

[sleek barn]

I'm not even sure if you can get a carry for Lycia

[formal vault]

dang

[sleek barn]

can you do sanctum in party

[onyx adder]

Anyway nobody gave this newbie the real advice

[split maple]

yea

[sleek barn]

or is that like a no go

[crisp plinth]

which law

[sleek barn]

oh ok then you can get a carry lol

probably a few D

[onyx adder]

Which is dont spend currency recolouring ur fucking gear in act 6 lul

[crisp obsidian]

I love gambling monsters down

[fierce rock]

are servers dying for anyone else?

[sleek barn]

check trade server or TFT

[crisp obsidian]

Cause you know it's rng what your hit deals

It's no longer hit dmg

[formal vault]

ty ty

[onyx adder]

Put up with one crappy gear slot with good colours for the one 4l u actually need

[crisp obsidian]

It's gamble dmg

POGGGG

[onyx adder]

Or put up with a 3l

And continue with the game rather than blow ur currency on recoloring gear that u will replace in 30 minutes anyway

[leaden blaze]

Yeah basically how games get around it by using time as the gamble which is a choice delegated to the player it's just an annoyance really I didn't even want to semantics about gambling I just don't think my build works with red but requires almost all off red pieces because that's what I've built for with melee and energy shields evasion. I didn't know and the game didn't tell me that it was basically hard mode xD

[proud gorge]

fair point yeah. Regardless, my point is, calling something like socket recoloring, which is effectively guaranteed, and the only thing that differs is exactly how much of a low value currency you have to spend, gambling, is stretching the definition to the point where literally anything where you spend anything in a game with RNG in it is gambling. Playing Pokemon is gambling because you're "gambling" on spending a turn to get a crit or not. It doesn't change the overall outcome, but you save a turn, and thus a small amount of time and also electricity.

[onyx adder]

Yea dont do this

[sleek barn]

I don't think act 5 to 6 is a jump in a difficulty though

6 is a very chill act

[rose quail]

Depends where you are. For me it's Law on Gambling and Lotteries. By our law anything that involves stake and has some dependence on chance or circumstances is gambling unless the prize is cheaper than 15 euro or it's something in the game itself and not tied to real life value.

[onyx adder]

6 has the res penalty tbf

[sleek barn]

this is true

[onyx adder]

So if ur new then scorching ray totem will assfuck u

[leaden blaze]

It's now a requirement I'm stuck with my build as the game also requires you to grind to respec I'd be better off starting a new character at this point which is also unfortunate because I've not even finished the storyline the first time

[proud gorge]

there definitely is a jump in difficulty in Act 5, and I can tell you exactly where it is. It's in Act 5 Chamber of Sins part 1, which is the point at which you start encountering very large packs of enemies, there's a notable jump in enemy density, and you start encountering enemies who will instantly all throw a long range spell at you, or ambush strike you, or something of that nature.

[sleek barn]

you mean chamber of innocence?

[onyx adder]

If ur build requires a heap of offcolours then just give up one gear piece to socket your main links

[proud gorge]

yeah, that one

[onyx adder]

Act 5 doesnt have chamber of sins what are u on about

[sleek barn]

I think it's just that one area

[proud gorge]

Chamber of Sins is a different location

[sleek barn]

I do agree that zone is a bit tough

[proud gorge]

I forgot the exact name, but you get which one I'm talking about yeah

[sleek barn]

innocence himself is a hell of a fight anyways

but other than that act 6 feels super smooth sailing perhaps just because it's very linear

[rose quail]

English just poor. I do have separation for this in my language. We have gambling as: "passion games" where passion is the kind of addictive passion and we have "games of fortune".

[high magnet]

haha refracting fog is so op, people don't know you can flip so easily with it. rerolling minion jewels

[onyx adder]

Ive never thought about chamber of innocence as anything other than a good place to farm and catch up xp bc of the number of blue packs

[proud gorge]

its the point where enemy density jumps up a lot, lots of enemies that cast decently hard-hitting spells hitting you at once, so some weaker builds would probably find it a real spike in difficulty

[sleek barn]

but after that point in the torched courts or whatever it's still just moderate density I feel

[proud gorge]

especially if you have low enough health that you're getting stunned a lot

[onyx adder]

Also never seen anybody complaining about it in about 10 years of hanging out in help channels

Ppl used to complain about a6 mudflat a lot

Due to scorching ray totem and resist penalty

[sleek barn]

yeah the karui archers are rough too

[bleak umbra]

Has anyone made a tool or spreadsheet to determine which coin is least likely to 'brick' your gem ?

[proud gorge]

yeah, running into Act 6 with a resist penalty is a real issue also

but my point is, Chamber of Innocence definitely does represent a pretty significant jump in enemy density

from "sparse spaced out packs" to "packs everywhere"

[rose quail]

Resist penalty also blindsides the newer players

So it's quite understandable

[sleek barn]

maybe I just got too used to it

so I'm biased

[proud gorge]

and if you don't have decent AoE, that jump in pack density can definitely hurt

again, most builds won't have any issue there

[rose quail]

Eh, that's like that on the very beginning of the act tho

[sleek barn]

I would just hope that the guides new players are following is doing a good job explaining differences in acts

[proud gorge]

but I've played some fully single-target builds through acts, and that was definitely a spike

[rose quail]

Like the first zone already introduces pack in nearly every room and multiple packs in the bottom

[crisp obsidian]

This would require new players to find the guides that do explain and then follow them

[rose quail]

And square is even harder

[crisp obsidian]

Which they do not seem to do

[sleek barn]

yes that is very hard for new players to do

given the sheer amount of RMT channels

oh well best they can do is come here eventually

[rose quail]

I'd even argue square is harder because you can packpedal into a pack

Chamber let's you back away to where you already cleared

[onyx adder]

I feel like anybody making claims about new player experience needs to spend one (1) lifetime hour in the campaign help channel

Helping newbies

[proud gorge]

but yeah, my point is, while its a very manageable spike, Acts 5 and 6 definitely are real difficulty spikes

its just that most experienced players are well above the difficulty curve to such a degree that the spike isn't really felt

[rose quail]

Innocence gets more people than the chamber

[proud gorge]

yeah, honestly innocence is a great fight

[eternal apex]

Pretty fing cool, I love Refracting Fog!

[proud gorge]

I feel like more people should experience Act 5 innocence on a build with almost no health and just a manual-cast Immortal Call to keep you alive

[rose quail]

The newer fights are great. The audio is the touch that was missing

[rose quail]

Just don't get hit

[crisp plinth]

idk man if you wanna glass cannon you gotta live with it

[stable hawk]

this thing is same as normal mageblood but rightmost 4 flasks right?

[proud gorge]

man, I always forget that Witch starts the game with less than 100 hp to her name

[vapid rock]

is there anything that actually effects anyways?

[onyx adder]

No

If u could wear 2 belts then maybe

[vapid rock]

I forgot if there was something that disabled a flask slot

oh, was that a belt too?

[finite quail]

mechanical belt

disables fifth flask slot

[formal vault]

i just joined tft and got banned lol wtf

[finite quail]

can still use tinctures tho

[finite quail]

get fucked

[crisp obsidian]

Welcome to t*t

[proud gorge]

assuming you're playing correctly, there's no difference

[onyx adder]

Micro distillery ackshually, mechanical is the one with the granted skill

[crisp obsidian]

Worst discord to exist related to poe

[formal vault]

i didnt even post anything lol

[crisp obsidian]

Are you in beltons discord

[finite quail]

ah

[proud gorge]

since, while you might want to move around the one usable flask/tincture for convenience, you can just put it wherever

since Mageblood only affects utility flasks

and you wouldn't be able to use a theoretical 5th utility flask in the last slot anyways

[onyx adder]

Im a micro distillery enjoyer just because of the number of times i end up fitting in traitor

[proud gorge]

you know, now that I think about it, there should totally be a unique flask that provides some constant benefit just for having it equipped

[crisp obsidian]

Mimicking the power of pf smh

[onyx adder]

Clicking pf sucks

[proud gorge]

but on the other hand, I don't think that would work with current flask design, since iirc current flasks are designed to only provide any benefit listed on the flask, no matter what, when active

since I think at one point it was possible to get a non-flask mod onto a flask

[onyx adder]

Its not a good ascendancy in 2026 im always looking to do whatever pf can do on real ascendancy

[proud gorge]

and it turned out the non-flask mod was only active when the flask was active

[onyx adder]

At this point it might as well have progenesis stapled to its face theres no other reason to click it

[crisp obsidian]

Recovery!!

[onyx adder]

How much recovery do u need lul

[vapid rock]

yes

[full kraken]

What do you use TFT for now anyways.... carries? Is that it now?

[crisp obsidian]

All of it

That's why ggg has to fix this bug with mana flask and sorrow

Smh

[vapid rock]

probably still for mirror services?

[proud gorge]

people sometimes use it for mass purchases

also getting around gold requirements sometimes

[devout shoal]

ok guys i got +5 clasped hands on a memory of reverence what scarabs do i use to profit from it

[full kraken]

Yeah I guess gold bulk buying still, especially item bases that cost a lot of gold

[full kraken]

Thats weird, why dont mirror crafters do mirror services trustless?

Just trade the mirrored item at the same time for the mirror+fee, surely they can afford that

Hell pretty quick surely they can sell mirror services via the async trade cant they

Just list the mirrored copy of the item for sale

Everytime it sells make another

[proud gorge]

probably because that requires them to pre-mirror the item for potentially uncertain profit? It means they're holding about 1 mirror worth of risk.

[full kraken]

Don't they already hold like dozens of mirrors in risk anyways?

Usually mirror crafters have like 3-4 items soon enough that cost multiple mirrors to make each no?

[proud gorge]

I mean, if the item suddenly stops selling, yeah. But point being, pre-mirroring the item does require them to hold one extra mirror of technically unnecessary risk at all times

[full kraken]

Yeh but then you can async trade it

[karmic gust]

well its not unecessary risk

[mortal jacinth]

Yeah

[karmic gust]

they are selling the item they are spposed to provide the guarantee

instead of doing trust trades

[grizzled crypt]

If a build can do Simulacrum 15, it's considered to be at least a decent build, correct?

[proud gorge]

yeah, realistically its definitely best for them to pre-mirror it, but like, its TFT

[full kraken]

Yeah I mean, also being able to sell it while you are asleep prolly makes you profit a lot more

Im just surprised thats not common practice npw

To like pre mirror 2-3 of em and put em on faustus before taking a nap or whatever

Youd start pretty quickly recouping the cost

[crisp obsidian]

More copies on market = less value = less fees they can ask for

Usually the first copiers pay the costs with higher fees from what I know

[proud gorge]

yeah, but why do that when you can make somebody else take on the risk via extremely shady trades based on TFT rank

[full kraken]

I always play fuckass meme stuff so never bothered with mirror market

This league seems especially easy to get in on making currency to mirror gear up a delve build

[crisp obsidian]

I am about to become a delver

The market is insane

[full kraken]

Twisters is pretty decent at delving so Im hype to make bank

Relationship ended with Vindiri, Niko is new best friend

[astral shadow]

Maybe u got lucky and avoided bad mods but simu 15 isnt that hard either, its like ultimatum but need more dps

[sleek barn]

what do you do besides twister Mr Pixxel

[placid hull]

does anyone know if Spell Leech(other than the skill's spell leech) applies to soulrend?

[proud gorge]

You know what could be a fun skill to add to the game? Something like Raise Spectre, but instead its called "Skill Mimicry" or something, allowing you to consume a corpse to get a random skill from that enemy

[short prairie]

Hey Mr. DJ, oh oh oh, play a song for this pretty little ladyyyy oh oh oh.

[proud gorge]

and then the skill also has an active component, Mimic Skill, which allows you to "use" the stored skill

except visually its a ghostly version of the monster that uses the skill I guess?

since a lot of skills probably aren't designed for player animations

[full kraken]

70 phantasms

[proud gorge]

the fact that players can raise spectres that use these skills means that they're already functionally available to the player, and able to be linked with all support gems, just at a slight disconnect

but I think there's probably some interesting monster skills that could be interesting to use as a player

[granite plaza]

what's going on with the envoy this league, he appears like every other map

[crisp obsidian]

Sounds like gambling amirite

[full kraken]

I noticed this too

[finite quail]

ffs I hit the volatile but it got such a tiny multiplier

Welp, atleast I got it for the build

[karmic gust]

well it divines first right so thats still pretty lucky with widowhail range :d

[sleek barn]

don't they collide with each other?

sounds fun though

that was my other option for guardian

[karmic gust]

phantasms arre ranged so colliding doesnt matter right

[sleek barn]

couldn't afford convergence supp when I was thinking about it

[sleek barn]

I'd assume the circle they form around an enemy would eventually reach a limit

tbf idk how their targeting works

[fringe ermine]

I need aul asc

[sleek barn]

do they reposition to stay as far away as possible

[karmic gust]

phantasms def do not like repositioning very much :d

[cosmic raptor]

its joever

[sleek barn]

gg

mirror next time

trust

[karmic gust]

https://giphy.com/gifs/team-rocket-pokemon-jesse-and-james-lDrg1c0wl2vy8

[finite quail]

oh fuck I shouldnt have bought high rolls then lmfao

[short prairie]

Tiny pp

[cosmic raptor]

if it was 2 mirrors you could've had one but oh well

[pseudo axle]

interference scarab + elder guardian map + destructive play on city square is some WILDLY profitable stuff

if your build can do it

[crisp obsidian]

Trippy

[pseudo axle]

interference scarab scales with destructive play, despite palstron saying it doesn't

so you get like 4 guardian-tier bosses fighting you + 3 atlas bosses in addition to the elder guardian lol

[crisp obsidian]

Wait what

Can u link where they say so

[sudden dock]

Is chance to ignite craft still unveiling stuff with jun?

[finite quail]

It is time

[crisp obsidian]

I need more utubers to clown on

[finite quail]

you dont get crafts from unveiling anymore

those crafts are obtained from maps now

[sudden dock]

what maps give chance to ignite then?

[finite quail]

wow that was real bad

[pseudo axle]

I think he might have been mistaken because the scarab description doesn't precisely indicate that but yeah, zizran correctly explained the interaction in a youtube short

[crisp obsidian]

Check bench

[pseudo axle]

if you can get a mirage overlap on the boss (which happens often in city square) you can drop like 2+ mirage maps, and then you can get the barya boss wish too, which will give you a bunch of barya, like 2-4 depending on circumstances

hella money tbh

[sudden dock]

it says chance to ignite is Arsenal map, but thats not true because that is "% increased fire damage"

[pseudo axle]

and extremely cheap to run

[karmic gust]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Influencing_Scarab_of_Interference probs good to edit wiki as well if that is the case

[finite quail]

we go agane

still all bad

ffs

[pseudo axle]

I'm not editing the wiki lol

[short prairie]

How many smol pps you gonna get

[finite quail]

0

all below 250

also bruh why isnt there a list of synth mods out there that CAN actually roll as of right now

[short prairie]

That’s the definition of smol

[finite quail]

instead of having EVERY synth mod INCLUDING legacy ones

[pseudo axle]

what are those orbs?

[finite quail]

And NOT showing a distiction

[finite quail]

sanctify orb from poe 2 basically

[pseudo axle]

whats the name

[finite quail]

either poofs or divines the item then applies a 0.75-1.22x multiplier to the values on the unique

volatile vaal orb

[pseudo axle]

thats so cool

[finite quail]

the range isnt exact iirc but its something like that

[finite quail]

I was hoping to land a 300% quiver effect widowhail

but it didnt happen sadgely

[fringe ermine]

anyone has found aul?

[steady otter]

The vaal pit has found a new victim

[pseudo axle]

I bet those would be fun to use on Ixchel's Temptation

[short prairie]

Ppl say those stats round up instead of round down, is that true? To my understanding poe is a round down game

[steady otter]

I mean, it would fun for everything, especially a 5 slot mb

[finite quail]

what?

It should always round down

poe always does that

[pseudo axle]

I dont think that value is modifiable

[finite quail]

though the mb getting rounded up is strange

[finite quail]

wrong

[pseudo axle]

wait WHAT

[finite quail]

there was a screenshot shown of a 5 flask mb

[short prairie]

Like if after the multiplier it goes to 4.8 it goes up to 5, someone in the discord said earlier yesterday

[mystic gale]

How can i improve my oneshot defense?

[steady otter]

It exists now

[pseudo axle]

you can get 5 flask MB!?

[crisp obsidian]

Why is wiki going so bad nowadays

Smh

[finite quail]

yep

[short prairie]

Forgor who

[pseudo axle]

holy moly

thats nuts

[finite quail]

though you have to sacrifice many megabalds

[steady otter]

@pseudo axle

[short prairie]

That’s a round UP

4*1.22=4.88

[pseudo axle]

"I said GREATNESS, AT ANY COST."

[finite quail]

I'm gonna blow you UP

[short prairie]

Poe is poe no more

It rounds up

[pseudo axle]

is "megabald" Chris Wilson's new nickname?

[steady otter]

Considering 4 flask mb is 170, if you get a 5 flask in 6-7 trials you make your money back

[finite quail]

trying to find which synth implicit you can get now and which is legacy is so fucking annoying man

I want a global crit multi implciit quiver but those are legacy

[fringe ermine]

is there any /global that is selling aul ascendency?

[pseudo axle]

to be fair its entirely flavorful considering how venarius memory holes stuff

[short prairie]

Why not double Alva corrupt instead

[mystic gale]

How to improve oneshot defense?

[pseudo axle]

[karmic gust]

can you get quick screenshot with proof then if you are doing it atm i will edit it

[pseudo axle]

sec

[crisp obsidian]

I have videos of it here

[steady otter]

Nah, 5 flask looks way funnier

[karmic gust]

@crisp obsidian hmm i wonder if AG is good idea :d with transfusion on frostblink xd

[crisp obsidian]

Like remember the minotaur video

[karmic gust]

like surely this generates enough souls right

[crisp obsidian]

I just made an account on wiki

To edit it

[karmic gust]

ah nice

[pseudo axle]

yeah there are videos, zizran is doing it

[crisp obsidian]

What does transfusion do

Idr

[gritty garnet]

how many times do you need to spam it without a bigger multiplier

it says "a" so if you have multiple the earlier stack will probably fall off

[karmic gust]

and frostblink then would be like 8 souls at once

[short prairie]

Why’s invert the rules support so good, always shows up on my pob sorted by dps

[steady otter]

Wtf is that life cost

[karmic gust]

indigon

[steady otter]

Oh okay I see

[lucid gale]

MVP

[gritty garnet]

you can hide invert (& other funny ones) with this

[finite quail]

ok nvm

I think there's just no quivers with synth crit multi on them

[short prairie]

[finite quail]

because APPARENTLY

THERES ONLY 16 FUCKING SYNTH QUIVERS ON SALE RIGHT NOW

[short prairie]

I can just ignore invert

I don’t think I’ll get it in ssf but it’s funny to look at

[gritty garnet]

also what's the nearby range on transfusion in meters

[crisp obsidian]

"This effect is applied to bosses spawn from {{psl|Destructive Play}}." This should be good right

[short prairie]

What’s the theoretical best level 1 link gem for flicker for the mirage corrupt currency

[karmic gust]

spawned

or that spawn right

[karmic gust]

endu on stun if slayer?

[short prairie]

Unfortunately I’m scion

[karmic gust]

skill issue smh

[short prairie]

[karmic gust]

inc crit multi is good

lvl 1

trinity

uh what else

lifetap

[gritty garnet]

inspiration

fortify if you want to skip it on tree

[finite quail]

fortify probably

inspiration

chance to flee

[short prairie]

I was thinking that

[finite quail]

[cerulean breach]

how does faustus work exactly with non-integer currency ratios?

let's say I buy card X for 17.5c each

so that's 2 cards for 35c

[finite quail]

yes

it just works

[cerulean breach]

if someone sells 1 card, is it possible they can actually sell to me at 17c?

or will faustus bypass my order?

[placid hull]

added damage doesnt apply to dot dmg, right?

[gritty garnet]

nope

[crisp obsidian]

This sounded the most correct for me but someone with better english can fix it xdd

[placid hull]

ok ty

[pseudo axle]

@karmic gust

see the two shaper mini-boss corpses?

[steady otter]

[crisp obsidian]

Average shrine belt user

[karmic gust]

good enough, thanks :d

[pseudo axle]

"Each map boss summoned via Destructive Play is also accompanied by a Guardian or Synthesis Boss."

[steady otter]

How to detect a shrine belt user

[full kraken]

these are my flasks atm, no shrine belt tho lol

[gritty garnet]

use the funny other flask belt and link to them

[thick ocean]

does this work with poison damage?

[lofty dagger]

bruh what is this mirage

[pseudo axle]

-#mirage

[gritty garnet]

see if their shrines turn off when you use ceinture

[steady otter]

your prison

[ashen urchin]

i swear this was 10k before

[crisp obsidian]

Welcome to city square xddd

[pseudo axle]

check one of your run-off slots

[crisp obsidian]

Nope

[steady otter]

No? It's always 5k

[crisp obsidian]

They meant max stack

I think?

[gritty garnet]

max stack in currency was always 5k except for like rogue markers

[finite quail]

welp, had to settle for this quiver since no crit multi quiver implicit on trade + vivid vultures are expensive as fuck

[steady otter]

Yeah max stack is 5k

[radiant gorge]

Hello! does anyone know if divine orb rerolls mods on bound by destiny jewel or just the range of values?

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/UQtkDuCcW4bf looks decent i guess? technicall with diamond flask instead of taste of hate BMC can be removed too

[finite quail]

Still, thats like... 173% increased crit chance

[crisp obsidian]

I think I would oneshot myself

If I used this with frostblink

Xdd

[karmic gust]

lmao

[ashen urchin]

i remember it being 10k

[finite quail]

just the range of the values afaik

[cerulean breach]

is this even better than just projectile speed implicit?

[finite quail]

its not for a projectile build

[cerulean breach]

oh

widowhail?

[finite quail]

yeah

[cerulean breach]

kk

[finite quail]

334% increased effect of quiver values

[stable hawk]

any reflective mist expert here? say I want to hit positive on life and crit multi - should I aim to have as many mods on the item as possible like here? to maximize odds

[cerulean breach]

and yeah with the removal of kirac mission

vultures already like 250c

gonna go to 1000c in two weeks

[karmic gust]

i think its def possible to put transfusion there somewhere at least

[cerulean breach]

you can't farm vultures anymore

[karmic gust]

idk i will try to figure it out later

after i actually get to play the build i guess xd

[cerulean breach]

it's just the occasional random one here and there while doing normal beasts

[karmic gust]

as i think theres still bunch of optimization that can be done there

[cerulean breach]

can someone please tell me

why does uber cortex

not drop synthesized rare items?

why do 99.99% of synth bases come from harvest -> bestiary?

[karmic gust]

yea idk why they removed synth items from there

[gritty garnet]

because birds aren't real they're synthesized

[blazing shuttle]

Hello, Earthlings. If A modderator could hit me up. I got something I think your AI needs to be trained to not do.

[normal elbow]

Ritual

[safe schooner]

Anyone has seen a diamond shrine herald of ice build yet ?

[lucid gale]

Have you heard the word, the word about the bird?

[crisp obsidian]

I love the deli part on notes lmao

[cerulean breach]

whatever, anything but synthesis apparently

[normal elbow]

Speaking of synth items, does anyone know if you synthesize the new belt base when it already has an anoint do you lose the anoint?

[safe schooner]

All I want is pop a breach and blast it with 1 btn

Mamba, maybe, heralds ?

[crisp obsidian]

I will try it when I am on pc next time

[blazing shuttle]

i got screenshots of what happened. it was super weird.

[crisp obsidian]

So either in 5mins or in 8-10 hours

[ornate patrol]

blight of contagion works too

[cerulean breach]

you do not

[safe schooner]

Does it have sufficient dmg ?

[gritty garnet]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Mirage/028MXmGeFg

[safe schooner]

Might aswell just mamba it no ?

[gritty garnet]

you can vaal or synth it off but can't replace obviously

[cerulean breach]

look at my build: https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/orlp-2505/orlp_delicious_product?i=0&search=name%3Dorlp

[ornate patrol]

unless there were nerfs this league that im unaware of, yes

[crisp obsidian]

If ggg related either forums or [e-mail](I think?) for email

[safe schooner]

Life stack maybe ?

And no it’s p much untouched

[ornate patrol]

not familiar with the architypes

[sleek barn]

grindinggeargames no?

[ornate patrol]

but its a clear monster

something chieftain would probably work too

chieftain explode + ignite prolif

[karmic gust]

blight of contagion is gonna be so much worse than just doing binos mamba or something no if you rly wanted the extra range

[crisp obsidian]

No

[pseudo spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvkz6vb1aKg

[ornate patrol]

so is mamba deadge or not? i thought it got nuked

[pseudo axle]

behold, my jank

[karmic gust]

it only lost attack speed and nothing else

[crisp obsidian]

Someone made a mistake with notes, mamba is alive

[karmic gust]

so not rly deadge

[steady otter]

Omg the name

[crisp obsidian]

It was fixed pre-launch

[safe schooner]

Yeah my thought

Why bino ? Double spread ?

[ornate patrol]

[karmic gust]

yea

i mean i dont think you need binos for breach

[ornate patrol]

then yeah play mamba

disgustingly broken

[karmic gust]

but ifyou wanted to then its just straight up upgrade from blight of contagion

[pseudo axle]

and behold I have TWO. NECKS.

[safe schooner]

Did u see Jung’s thing? With the hateful accuser

[pseudo axle]

what can you do in the face of such reckless hatred

[proud gorge]

Izaro's portals have turned into weird cones for some reason

[karmic gust]

with binos? that doesnt even work

3m radius is not big enough

[teal goblet]

Oops

[pseudo axle]

why is your chat talking about e-girls

[safe schooner]

He says it does “3m is bigger than 3.5m” (idk why and how he is streaming it rn)

[onyx adder]

It does, providing it's not a skill like BV that ignores modifiers to damage on repeats

[sleek barn]

dang it's grindinggear

just GG sadge

[high magnet]

i hate when a streamer posts the exact strat you're doing

so annoying

[karmic gust]

i mean i dont rly see it, and that number is unscaleble

[ornate patrol]

watchu playin db

[blazing shuttle]

You can just tell me to shut up.

[karmic gust]

crema assa

[ornate patrol]

what da hell

[hybrid harness]

creamy ass 💀 average db build

[ornate patrol]

i was just boutta type that

[karmic gust]

im looking at jung stream and he is not using hateful accuser

[finite quail]

resistance would be preferable here

[proud gorge]

uh, looks like someone was talking about adding voice chat to PoE

[safe schooner]

Idk that’s what they talked about and it seemed kinda sus

[proud gorge]

and someone said "i be loookin for e girls if we have voice chat"

[finite quail]

fuck... difficult choice actually, cast speed is really good

[proud gorge]

and then someone called them cringe

rightfully so

[safe schooner]

I might just load the mamba girl and do breaches

[finite quail]

oh actually nevermind, chaos res is unnecessary, forgot its a ci build I'm making

[safe schooner]

I bought the focal point ff just in case

[proud gorge]

anyways, turns out early minions at low budget have a hard time against Izaro Portals

so I had to run around the edge of the room, spawning skeletons to slowly take down the portals a little bit at a time

and then chip away at the massive horde of enemies one at a time

[spice kernel]

Bro wtf
Sadge

[proud gorge]

and only then could I actually fight Izaro

[safe schooner]

Wdym sadge

[crisp obsidian]

What?

[spice kernel]

Sadge = im envy

[spare sigil]

What items can roll max frenzy charges implicit?

[safe schooner]

Ah

[cerulean breach]

that's not how emotions work

[finite quail]

wiki for frenzy charges will tell you

[spice kernel]

Why? Im sad cause someone is insane lucky and I was very unlucky in past week. Its nothing big, just a bit passive temporal saw dness. Jealousy.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383582597912727655/1481330734844346562/889be8283d7e3d10b83da95f4d31f849.gif

[finite quail]

wtf divs are up to 220 chaos

[cerulean breach]

divs are up to 220 chaos so far

[crisp obsidian]

You got a degree on emotions to say so? xd

[finite quail]

yeezus

[spice kernel]

See u in a week when they will be like 280

https://tenor.com/view/texas-arknights-texas-the-omertosa-sshh-gif-1967043724922606130

[cerulean breach]

honestly still kinda baffled they removed the map device chaos sink

no clue what the thought process behind that is

[crisp obsidian]

It was a good process

[spice kernel]

Wait

True

I just realised it.

[crisp obsidian]

We just need some other sink for it

But map device was getting annoying imo

[cerulean breach]

it held the chaos orb stable for more than a decade

[crisp obsidian]

And loans held the economy stable for a longer time

[cerulean breach]

made it de facto primary currency to trade for

[crisp obsidian]

Till the eco went poof

[proud gorge]

untrue, chaos was very much inflating until they added the T17 chaos sink

even with the map device crafts

[high magnet]

add idols and make them chaos spammable

[cerulean breach]

well, it helped reduce inflation at least

[high magnet]

problem solved

[cerulean breach]

now there's nothing that anchors the economy to chaos orbs anymore

[high magnet]

jewels for atlas tree

[crisp obsidian]

I think chaos inflation is fine

Nothing wrong with it

[proud gorge]

but yes, there's been a broad scale removal of chaos sinks this league. I've said it before, we could just move to GCPs as the primary currency

[crisp obsidian]

We can just trade in other currencies

[cerulean breach]

I really am not looking forward to an economy without chaos as an achor

[proud gorge]

GCPs have some solid sinks this league

namely infusion

[cerulean breach]

it's very annoying

[pseudo axle]

more proof the strat works

[cerulean breach]

how will you use faustus? are you going to check for four different currencies to see what has the best (if any) rates?

hmm maybe I can buy essences with gcps

no that rate is bad, let me try divine

[high magnet]

chaos rate is always better than every other

[rose quail]

That's how it works now tho

[cerulean breach]

ugh what about chaos

no, let me try exalts

[cerulean breach]

right now you gotta check 2

[karmic gust]

time to trade in alterations

[cerulean breach]

divine and chaos

[karmic gust]

[cerulean breach]

divine still has solid sinks, it's stable

[proud gorge]

I mean, that's already how it works yes. You click one currency with Faustus, and he recommends any currencies that have active trades available, or popular currencies to trade with.

[cerulean breach]

don't be disingenuous, everyone trades with either chaos or divine

[proud gorge]

its just that currently chaos has the most trades since its the baseline, but people definitely do trade in other currencies

and if we as a community moved to a different baseline currency, then that would become the baseline

like

that's the advantage of a purely player-driven market, with multiple forms of currency around

[rose quail]

Yeah but that's just a convience of efficency. It's always the same and the only consideration is bulk and the conversion rate skimmers

[proud gorge]

we can simply decide to, as a community, switch to a different baseline currency

it might take some time to happen, but its very doable

[cerulean breach]

we can't

[rose quail]

Like Chaos isn't the defacto currency because you could use them on Map Device

[finite quail]

this craft is so sad for a widowhail spell build with ci cause there's no prefixes that do anything for it

[cerulean breach]

the tradesite orders on chaos equivalent based on the ratios it sets

poe.ninja pricing is anchored to chaos

[finite quail]

Unless I drop ci

and then it gives me like 600 life

[rose quail]

It's because it's rarity is good enough in relative to other rarities to price things around

[lucid gale]

You could still shift as a playerbase, would just need more buy-in from everyone involved.

External inertia like ninja and trade site makes it harder, even if you somehow could get all the exiles to agree.

[proud gorge]

okay? Again, these aren't hard and fast rules, just convention. Using chaos equivalent for trade site doesn't actually lock in anything, so long as there's still consistent chaos trades for other currencies

[rose quail]

And big part of it is inertia. It's like how US still uses Imperial. Everyone knows imperial and are used to imperial so switching is hard by inertia alone

[proud gorge]

but even then, it could just use whatever the new baseline is if there becomes a new baseline

[gritty garnet]

if you didn't synth it you could've phys as extra prefixes

[finite quail]

[proud gorge]

but yeah, we're unlikely to see a switch out of chaos unless chaos gets really really deflated

[lucid gale]

There's some niches of item that sell for different currencies and I'm never really sure if it's an in-joke or not when you see Incursion stuff in Vaal Orbs and Heist blueprints in whatever they were listed in.

[rose quail]

All in all simple thing is, whatever was done was not enough to change peoples opinions

[proud gorge]

maps used to sell for chisels a lot yeah

[cerulean breach]

by the way, do you know how the currency exchange works? I had a question about non-integer ratios

[rose quail]

Like when ex and div switched everyone went with it

[lucid gale]

We've already had ex->div as the shift in high-end listings, and PoE2 players experimenting with annuls and locks for granularity.

[proud gorge]

well, to be fair, that was because of an order from down on high

GGG themselves said "yeah Div is the new premium currency"

[vestal apex]

found my first mirror, gg

[rose quail]

The point is removal of map crafts is also order from above. But it was not enough to shift the usage

[median rock]

am i trolling by sending it like that when the quota is bismuth/ori? like do i have to do the maths myself of how much to send or what

[proud gorge]

like, it's also because metamods are crafted in divs

[radiant fulcrum]

hello Exile, dumb one, ic an't find my solution: i got my ascandacy, good, and i speed 2 point on the purple one but i need to change for the one where i can get armor... xD someone can explain me how i found this ? and i change

[cerulean breach]

@lucid gale say there's a lot of trades for a divination card at 7c each, and I place my offer at 2 for 15c (so 7.5c on average), if someone sells a singular card for 7c, will it then go to my newer offer or will it still fulfill the older offers at 7c first?

[finite quail]

regret orbs or respec with gold at certain npcs in towns or in hideout with faustus

[cerulean breach]

since it's not a direct match with my newer offer

[lucid gale]

I thought the driving force there was just the metamods and the other concerted changes like making 6Ls not sell for divines anymore, as part of making a change around divining.
Didn't really change for change's sake.

[crisp obsidian]

stop worrying about best rates and just trade for what you need 😎

[finite quail]

you found it by fighting tul and esh in the hivebrain gland

[proud gorge]

my point is that if, at the end of this league, GGG declares "hey we see that chaos deflation is a real issue, but GCPs are very stable, so we're switching the baseline currency to GCPs for the trade site and certain in-game crafts" then we'd probably see a mass community shift

very very quickly

[lucid gale]

As in, the goal wasn't to swap the currencies. My impressions is that the goal was to effect change around roll divining.

[cerulean breach]

I'd love it if we get a cheap(er) way to reroll values of rares back

I think divines being used to reroll uniques makes sense

[radiant fulcrum]

@finite quail so ok for respect i got it, and for disover new ascendancy i got to do the gland ?

[cerulean breach]

the old lucky harvest rerolls were too strong I agree

but I wouldn't mind a beast craft or something that does a normal reroll of a non-unique item

[proud gorge]

yeah, my point is more that the immediate mass community shift came about as a result of a statement from GGG causing an immediate community shift in tools and such, no need for a gradual shift due to players moving from one thing to another

[finite quail]

no, the gland gives you the breachlord bloodline, which is the purple guy thing to the left

[lucid gale]

No clue whatsoever, the CX is a mystery to me. All I know is that some people have opinions about their unfactorable ratios 😄

[spice kernel]

What do you think about Foulborn oppressor guys? Instead of 'you take dmg from ur blocked hits" its now a big positive up.to 29% spell block.

[finite quail]

to get more ascendancy points, you do the labyrinth

[proud gorge]

that hard shift from a direct statment makes it a lot easier for all the community tools like poeninja and awakened trade and such to shift in response

[finite quail]

30% suppressed spell damage prevention is not very nice

[proud gorge]

whereas a gradual shift in the community would be hard, due to intertia from the tools, unless the tools shift first somehow

[finite quail]

double foulborn mod oppressor is giga

[cerulean breach]

I did test by the way using an obscure card selling to myself, you can buy singular cards even if your offer is in non-reducable ratios

I'm just not sure whether your offer would be preferred over older offers because it provides a better ratio in theory, even though that better ratio is not being applied

[proud gorge]

it would also be relatively hard to shift mid-league

[lucid gale]

We've had some interesting inflations in the past where c/div oscillated more than usual.
PoE2's 0.4 is an interesting thing to study too, as the temple sure did a number on the established economy there.

[gritty garnet]

it's better than most block builds not getting any suppress at all

[spice kernel]

Sounds not bad no? Better than nothing. You just need not to get massive hits that's all of its purpose

[rose quail]

Sure. I agree that they could strong arm a change. Though my bet for a cookie is they will introduce either something new for chaos or do nothing with it because they consider inflation a "good thing" since it devalues chaos and you can use it to spam rerolls.

GCP functions really well for it's intended purpose of power.

[lucid gale]

Hold anything but divs there. 😄

[radiant fulcrum]

@finite quail hoo ok but the purple is the one i have and i want to swap to this one :

[elfin spire]

should i waste voidborn reliq key or trade it for 2 divs?

[sick shadow]

as I recall, we changed metamods and Chris said that would probably result in a switch from ex to div as the main currency

[pseudo axle]

EXCUSE ME?

[cerulean breach]

well you also removed the 6L divine vendor recipe at the same time

[pseudo axle]

its still probably not even good but like

hot damn

[finite quail]

you gotta kill farrull then

[pseudo axle]

natural 4 t1 mods

[proud gorge]

yeah, iirc the whole thing was that div and ex had basically the same drop ratio anyways, so the only reason Div was valued a lot lower was because of the 6l recipe

[errant hatch]

Currency exchage: I'm trying to use Faustus to gram gemcutters for chaos. but when I select chaos, it switches the gemcutters to instilling orbs. why?

[crisp obsidian]

and thank you all for doing that, it made the game so much better

and the most recent patch made it even better

[elfin spire]

6 link gloves

[crisp obsidian]

being able to exalt slam my items is so nice

[sick shadow]

indeed, that would have contributed as well

[radiant fulcrum]

@finite quail ok, thx for your light you save me hard ! 1) i respect my 2 point, 2 i go found where farull is, 3 i can choose my new talent and made apply it

[finite quail]

what about it

[finite quail]

yeah

[pseudo axle]

its just funny to see a natural roll like this

[cerulean breach]

I'm just sad I almost never reroll the values on my rares anymore

[crisp obsidian]

that's a you issue

[sick shadow]

we don't tend to tell players "this is the currency you're using now" though, it's up to players to choose that

[cerulean breach]

like pretty much exclusively for a badly rolled well-crafted weapon =/

[rose quail]

That and the fact it did tie in to more power through the crafting table sink. The issue with Kirac chaos "sink" was that if you put in 4c you get back 20c and for all intents and purposes it was a chaos inflation machine

[pseudo axle]

oh god I slammed another link

[cerulean breach]

and some niche stuff like using harvest resistance transfers back and forth to reroll resists

[crisp obsidian]

I am divining rares more often nowadays than I did back when they were 10c

[pseudo axle]

lel

[errant hatch]

gah, nevermind on currency exchange. that was an oops.

but man, gemcutters add up.

[rose quail]

Also unironically one thing that inflates chaos is the very fact it's used for trading. People hoard it to trade and compete with each other on the relative hoard avaiable

[lucid gale]

Kind of neat to see GCP having a bit more value vs. chaos in Mirage. Gonna assume it's due to imbued gamba.

[finite quail]

yep

[sick shadow]

does this mean I should run labs for gem quality now

[errant hatch]

I was hoping for ~200 to slap on all my stuff. 600c.

[sick shadow]

or is that still bait

[finite quail]

Still bait

[crisp obsidian]

well gcp's are 3c

so running lab for qual is worth it

esp when 20% qual is kinda common

[errant hatch]

ugh. labs.

[cerulean breach]

lab could drop 10divine in raw cash at the font every time

[errant hatch]

worst thing in the game for me. I hate them.

[cerulean breach]

and I probably still wouldn't run it

[dim sonnet]

some guy was selling tons of 8mod 3c maps

[finite quail]

yes this is normal

[dim sonnet]

we have a farming session boys

[errant hatch]

100%. I hate labs so much

[dim sonnet]

3c 100quant is not normal

[cerulean breach]

tip: make a trade search that excludes bad mods and also https://poe.re to filter their shop to just buy 8mods you want

[tough cove]

i wouldnt mind lab nearly as much if that stupid outdoor gardens tileset didnt exist

[dim sonnet]

yea thats what im doing

[proud gorge]

imo that might actually be a nice thing if GCP does become the baseline currency. The fact that its "orb" purpose can theoretically be replaced by a different means that doesn't actually output the orb in question means that there'd be no real issue with "not getting to use the baseline currency as an orb" for poorer players

[finite quail]

btw any of yall that have made a shock nova of procession, is astral projector useful on it or nah? since I know you can't get the overlaps cause the novas spawn from the middle of the enemy that way

[cerulean breach]

I'd rather run 2 indoor lab zones than one outdoor garden zone

[finite quail]

it is pretty normal

[cerulean breach]

I haven't played it but I can't imagine that being good

[proud gorge]

and of course richer players could spend them willy nilly on infusion

and other gem quality needs

[rocky glade]

Wait so if Awakened Gems are gone
Does it mean every build just lost like 50% of their power?

[rose quail]

No

[proud gorge]

no

[dim sonnet]

spent 900c on a shopping spree from one guy

[finite quail]

exceptional supports take their place

[dim sonnet]

what an mvp

[tough cove]

no. dot builds suffered the most, but most builds didnt lose all the much power

[finite quail]

some awakened supports are definitely gone though so some builds are FUCKED, like cast on crit builds, they lost awakened cast on crit

[cerulean breach]

poison builds took a pretty big hit but most builds only lost like 5-10%

[dim sonnet]

time to turn those 900c into 200d

[gritty garnet]

depending on how much you were relying on the lvl 5 effects

[tough cove]

the big loss for most buillds was reflect immunity

[rocky glade]

Well I don't see Exceptional Support for Melee Physical Damage or Brutality now do they

[proud gorge]

most builds weren't gaining 50% power from awakened gems, but also many of the most impactful awakened gems are now available as "greater" gems

[gritty garnet]

so use the new ones

[cerulean breach]

not really

[tough cove]

void shockwave is massive for builds that can use it

[cerulean breach]

most new exceptional supports are very niche

[finite quail]

keep reading

[twin arch]

When was scion last good

[karmic gust]

all ailment builds mostly lost same amount of damage i thin

[rose quail]

Yea. Like I'm playing RF and nothing is worth it. Besides memeing something fun for novelty

[karmic gust]

bleed/ignite too

[finite quail]

wdym by good

[twin arch]

Had a build that a lot of people played

[crisp obsidian]

wadahell

[gritty garnet]

yeah most melee builds use axes for obvious reasons

[twin arch]

Everything is perpetually good

[proud gorge]

Scion's always fine, and has strong niches in the Aurabot community

[finite quail]

scion is usually the go to for multi mirror builds though, no?

[proud gorge]

the vast majority of aurabots are Ascendants

[twin arch]

mostly for aurabot no?

[finite quail]

The multiple 1 passive voices builds

[proud gorge]

and yeah, at the high end it often does very well

[finite quail]

att stackers sometimes to

[karmic gust]

bleed lost stuff like woke brutality and melee phys, ignite same woke deadly and woke burning and also woke swift

[proud gorge]

pretty sure its still the highest damage RF build in the game

[twin arch]

Oh true att stackers

[crisp obsidian]

see this is why you don't overpay for these 21/20 gems smh

[finite quail]

also now we have reliquarian

which I'm making a build for rn

A very WEIRD and FUCKED UP build

[twin arch]

How long does player count stay at the same number post league launch before everyone quits and economy topples

[proud gorge]

there's some fun Reliquarian builds

[cerulean breach]

I think the new exceptional support gem that makes me the saddest is bloodsoaked banner because it'd make the perfect leaguestarter but is locked behind simulacrum

[split maple]

Like 2-3 hours?

[rocky glade]

And now 21/20 gems became the most expensive

Hmm

[finite quail]

locked behind the 1000% life cost multiplier

[low sparrow]

uhh

[proud gorge]

the economy doesn't topple, its fine. It slower, but still fine

[twin arch]

so what uhhh

[proud gorge]

the only time the economy truly "topples" is if there's another active event league that everyone's playing instead

[low sparrow]

gonna be a weird ask but did any of you get a notification for a sale but you dont see it in the npc, and the item sold doesnt seem like something you'd sell anyway?

[proud gorge]

like Phrecia 2.0

[twin arch]

What ever happened to fever bleed gladiator

[gritty garnet]

banners don't cost that much in the first place

[twin arch]

That was good the last time i played

Now it doesnt look good

[cerulean breach]

uhhh

seem pretty hefty to me

[rocky glade]

Bloodsoaked Banner is kinda weird
Like why would you use Banners for main DPS

[cerulean breach]

like 13-19 mana

[cerulean breach]

expedition

plop down banner to clear entire expedition

with unavoidable damage

that they can't turn off with some bullshit mod

[tough cove]

except immune to physical

[tidal spear]

2.5m dps per totem x7 for KF totem now that i got yoke setup etc, pretty poggers

[cerulean breach]

sure

but those are highlighted yellow

[still wing]

YO, any SRS enjoyers in here?? xD

[twin arch]

Whats that one gamemode that nobody plays anymore

Is it heist?

I think its heist

[gritty garnet]

pvp

[tough cove]

pvp

[cerulean breach]

is probably legit at ritual / ultimatum too

[twin arch]

pvp doesnt drop anything

I meant league mechanic

Sorry

[cerulean breach]

PoE royale

[twin arch]

MECHANIC

[tough cove]

heist while less popular this league is still definitely getting run

[gritty garnet]

they also just deleted harbingers

[low sparrow]

Thats a totem cluster jewel. I dont remember making, picking up, or putting one up on the market

[twin arch]

Harbingers gone?

Damn

[rocky glade]

I went against them by going for 2h maces like a gigachad

[tough cove]

harbi has needed a rework for a long time

[cerulean breach]

still does

[twin arch]

I remember if you want to play hc everything heist is super expensive because of one guy

[rocky glade]

Too bad 2h maces are kinda... Oh god no one sells them

[twin arch]

His name is HeistMan or something

And he sells heist stuff

And he buys heist stuff to resell

[gritty garnet]

yeah nobody buys them so the ones that do pop up are cheap enough

[twin arch]

And you dont compete with heistman

[cerulean breach]

eh

[gritty garnet]

depending on whether they're more or less dps than a marohi

[cerulean breach]

that seems great no?

play heist on hc

instant sell to heistman

[twin arch]

true

And all heist related drops you need you have

Because you’re playing heist

[cerulean breach]

I'd be interested in playing heist

[proud gorge]

but yeah, I was looking at lifestack spell builds recently (non-Relic of the Pact), and they're in an interesting place. Most of them are retaliate glads, but in the actual spellcaster area, there's exactly two variants as far as I can see. Reliquarian, and Occultist.

Reliquarians go Maw of Conquest (for the recoup I guess, alongside Petrified Blood and Dissolution) and The Burden of Shadows to get 5% of max life as added chaos damage.

Meanwhile Occultists go Runegraft of the Witchmark + Unlight Silhouette to get 4% of max life as added chaos damage, but also have Withering Presence to get lots of free Wither.

[twin arch]

Doesnt heist still mandate ranger lady walking simulator build though

[cerulean breach]

if it didn't involve spending half my time standing still watching doors being opened

[rocky glade]

Damn this is like the highest DPS 2H mace

38 divs

[twin arch]

Heist is walking sim

Thats why it makes money

Because nobody plays it

Because its walking sim

[proud gorge]

Dissolution + Petrified Blood is an interesting build tech

[steel light]

eagon quest will only have 3 frag slots?

[cerulean breach]

it doesn't make good money until you hit the simplex tho

[twin arch]

simplex is fast tho

Isnt it

[cerulean breach]

simplex is omega rare

[twin arch]

assuming im thinking of the right thing

[twin arch]

Most things in most modes people are farming for profit are omega rare

[proud gorge]

It negates 40% of damage taken to dissolution, and replaces it with Petrified Blood life loss, so you need recoup or something to make up for the life loss

[twin arch]

PoE finding a league mechanic to farm for profit is the mining for gems guy image

You want to hit THE drop

Vaalers want to vaal the mageblood

[steel light]

ring and amulet are very very rare, tailoring orb is around 100c

[twin arch]

Bossers want the giga boss drop

Heisters want the simplex

the list continues

[rocky glade]

Too bad that thing is dogass towards Cyclone

[proud gorge]

on the other hand the Occultist variant is using Witchmark so it spends 8% max life on every cast of a very high cast rate spell build, which adds up to an absolutely ridiculous amount of life cost per second

[tough cove]

harvest would beg to differ

[twin arch]

Ok fuck harvest

[tough cove]

same with essence

[twin arch]

That was my first league and i wish it wasnt

Essence is chill i have no qualms with essence

[tough cove]

ore/harvest/essence/deli are all about steady gains

[proud gorge]

truly an elite build lmao

[karmic gust]

found the solution to frostblink life cost btw @crisp obsidian

lvl 1 frostblink ez