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[karmic gust]

as you cant rly utilize the duration

[rough tulip]

ahhhh fak it, surely cws is still fine

[karmic gust]

so makes sense

[slow vault]

Aye, and dps is fine, but on the build I'm playing I ramp and when he traps me in one of his "tunnels" (dnno what the official name is, but you get it) it's when I usually start losing my portals on feared, especially if he doesn't spawn early enough

[remote sparrow]

Its another mediocre strike skill honestly

[hoary scarab]

then go trickster with infused toxin ff

[noble sleet]

but ):

[karmic gust]

you can but trickster is useless ascendancy

[potent bramble]

Depends on what else you have, really

[soft perch]

then ur playing trickster instead of a good ascendancy

like pathfinder

[crystal talon]

Duration means it can prolif for longer. Checkmate atheist

[hoary scarab]

idk i still think trickster is better than bathfinder

[spark ocean]

whats the top 2 defensive spectres?

[tranquil sedge]

its definitely not medicore lol

[soft perch]

afaik prolif actually inflicts a new poison with duration

[karmic gust]

sounds like dps issue to me :d

[soft perch]

its specific to poison prolif

[remote sparrow]

Its not awful definitely has cool space to explore but its not giga broken or bad just ok.

[frigid wedge]

turtle and the dude that eats portion of dmg isnt it?

[hoary scarab]

prolif doesnt, but binos is technically not a prolif

[west flax]

@potent bramble pretty much nothing I would buy starter pack and get currency tab and merchant tab would then have 110 coins left and the 1 addiontal stash tab from starter pack

[karmic gust]

yea it resets the durartion but its scaled with globla duration still

[hoary scarab]

its a whole new poison

not a prolif

[karmic gust]

just not with supported gem duration

[spark ocean]

hmm turtles kinda cheap, not bad

[soft perch]

isnt that kinda what i said or am i missing something

[crystal talon]

U rite. It isn't prolif. Works like bereks

[remote sparrow]

Why di you this static strike of gathering is more than just ok?

[icy zinc]

ayo any ingame planner in vicinity

[tranquil sedge]

awful < medicore < ok < good < great

or something like that

[hoary scarab]

the thing with binos/PF new poison is that it goes back to 2s base duration, even when you inflicted a 0.1sec poison

[karmic gust]

ah sure i thought you were saying the global duration wotn apply

[soft perch]

the trauma build dan is doing seems good for hc

[frigid wedge]

does poison even have prolif

[potent bramble]

If you're starting from nothing then yeah, a currency tab and one merchant tab is a solid start to see how you feel/what your long-term style is. Don't be afraid to just sit on the leftover points, they don't expire or anything

[frigid wedge]

isnt it all berek type shit

[cosmic raptor]

its time for holy relic guys

[hoary scarab]

no

[soft perch]

right but mamba does nuclear damage

[tranquil sedge]

also, connor's playing ssogl
that alone says something 😄

[soft perch]

so it doesnt matter

[hoary scarab]

at a certaik dps point sure

[tranquil sedge]

and yes, he's stacking attributes ofc, but you still don't play bad skills with stackers, so its nb

[remote sparrow]

Fair I think difference in our word choices I think its a 3/5 Lil above avg but not broken af

[karmic gust]

bereks is real prolif

the actual game "prolif" is just named incorrectly

[icy zinc]

yeah and its very decently optimized.

good ag setup

[karmic gust]

ggg fault

[soft perch]

wdym, mamba is known for nuclear damage

[frigid wedge]

by classification of prolif via keyword

[karmic gust]

sure

[dark grove]

Im getting bored. Help me guys i cant find Fun atlas farm ;-;

[dry prism]

whats the best way of getting 175% quantity on nightmare maps for the Challenge? I've been trying to run nightmares at like 93% quantity + all quant nodes I can find on the atlas

do scarabs affect it?

[crystal talon]

Prolif gets framemogged by bereks

[rough tulip]

risk scarab

[dark grove]

Explicit mods+ sacriface frags

[soft perch]

explicit effect nodes on tree + sacrifice fragments + risk scarab + altars

[dark grove]

Also altars

[remote sparrow]

I will say SSoGL has INSANELY high % damage multiplier so very good with high base damage from attacks, AkA stat stackers go very well with build

[dry prism]

oh shit yeah sacrifices

thanks

[cosmic raptor]

jackpot

[soft perch]

its not insanely high but its decently high for 1h not dual wield

[crystal talon]

R people playing replica iron commander? Lemao

[cosmic raptor]

yes

[remote sparrow]

Really? Interesting

[dusty mesa]

oh spikey did you play frogs

[frigid wedge]

always

[icy zinc]

yeah and its very clunky until you reach 10 aps

[remote sparrow]

Idk 96% more feels high but you also need super high attackspeed

[soft perch]

yea its like a 680% DE skill or something that requires duration scaling

[crystal talon]

No. Im in like t10 maps gup

[dusty mesa]

ah rip

[soft perch]

spikey ragequit because his frog build he spent weeks theorycrafting sucked

[cosmic raptor]

lol

[crystal talon]

[dusty mesa]

I was hoping it didn't suck

[icy zinc]

gathering lightning can't generate charge with multistrike, additional strikes, melee splash, but other than that is gucci

best strike

[remote sparrow]

Yea I started at glad and was gonna go SSoGL but ended up sticking to bleed slams. You need to clear a attack speed bar for skill to feel good

[crystal talon]

I didn't theoryceaft it all. Wtd did

[icy zinc]

saw frog build do feared today, was rough but it did.

[dusty mesa]

I'm about to be baited into mana miner today

[icy zinc]

https://youtu.be/5U8R3MyjrUw?si=OHXWoLI6gVS2-Ff3&t=447

[soft perch]

well feared can be done with basic attack at this point

[dusty mesa]

got most of my gear ready and twink setup ready

[icy zinc]

bo7l couldn't do it

said game shit and claimed its undoable cus sirus and reverence boss

[soft perch]

i think the fact that the frogs can just straight up miss and dont target enemies is hilarious

its ass, but its hilarious

[crystal talon]

This is why you play sabo. 2x the frogs for 2x the wiffs

[whole bluff]

Frogs seem to be projectiles

[icy zinc]

i do think that xesht instead of chayula would be better swap

at this point feared nets no loot

[whole bluff]

If they don't target I mean

[icy zinc]

and maven writ is 10c

[whole bluff]

Just going in a trajectory

[soft perch]

feared sirus just shouldnt be the uber version

for some reason

[icy zinc]

that is weird

[soft perch]

also no walls

[whole bluff]

Is feared Sirus uber?

[soft perch]

ye he uses uber versions of his abilities

[whole bluff]

Damn

[soft perch]

doesnt do uber level damage but thats not the point rly

[karmic gust]

including the no regen bullshit?

[whole bluff]

So he basically tracks you, which would have been very neat if he didn't, to allow a counterplay in a fight like feared. Also the walls just suck

[frigid wedge]

can we be real for a sec, feared sirus is preferable to the normal actual sirus fight, it takes literally 5 minutes less time

[soft perch]

i think so? im not sure i havent done much sirus this league

or feared

[frigid wedge]

bc ur not dealing with yap and storms

[soft perch]

i saw blau complain about it and blau is a smart fella

[karmic gust]

oh btw @wintry lily you can make AG live super easily on the setup with transfusion just get like swift affliction imbue for roa and link transfusion :d

[rough tulip]

just get more dmg and 1 tap all of them, easy solution

[brazen vector]

Smart fella or fart smella

[frigid wedge]

both

[karmic gust]

if itdoes that sounds giga painful :d

[soft perch]

isnt transfusion just soul eater

[karmic gust]

yea to minion

and soul eater gives less damage taken

[soft perch]

isnt minion soul eater just attack and cast speed

like player

[karmic gust]

i thought its same as monster

only charges are same as player i think?

[soft perch]

'Monsters and minions will still benefit from both reduced physical damage taken and elemental resistances per eaten soul.'

it is yea

ur right

[spare garnet]

should I purchase the map tab after the endgame rework? been playing for years without it and now it seems not that useful

[sharp sand]

any1 know if i can buy voidstone kills from here?

[icy zinc]

there was a tech to make animated guardian have perma 45 souls

[karmic gust]

yea transfusion :d

[past mantle]

Merc tech back for valdos?

[karmic gust]

for meercs ppl used the gloves or belt yea

[wintry lily]

[frigid wedge]

minion soul eater already existed before the new gem btw

[wintry lily]

Half the time tho its AG dying instantly before they get tanky enough, might be helpful for against bosses with stacks up tho

[frigid wedge]

the spectre soul eater jewel never got removed

[gentle chasm]

try /trade 820 ingame

[wintry lily]

with the content im doing ag sometimes just gets obliterated on map entry

and definitely obliterated with entering mirages

[karmic gust]

well the spectre soul eater also is not easy to stack on utility spectres

point of this is keeping the minions actually alive

[frigid wedge]

meant for purpose of testing the survivability aspect

[karmic gust]

well you can just hold left click for a bit with transfusion

and give it souls

[dusty mesa]

Shaper keeps killing my AG

[karmic gust]

ah sure

[dusty mesa]

Elder doesn't do anything

[wintry lily]

No sir, I mean that I am surrounded by 50 packs.

And I will blow up alongside my ag instantly.

[dusty mesa]

but UShaper balls instakill my AG lol

[karmic gust]

just dont get surrounded by 50 packs then smh

[wintry lily]

Blame mirage.

[frigid wedge]

get a better ag

and actually res cap it

[soft perch]

idk turtle never dies unless u drag him through infinite degen ground

[dusty mesa]

yea mirage is kinda bullshit for any delayed damage setup

[soft perch]

surely ag is the same

[icy zinc]

don't remember what that it is, could be

[karmic gust]

yea this part of mirage is stupid ngl

[icy zinc]

was animated guardian that dealt damage though

[frigid wedge]

ag is not same

[icy zinc]

not just supportcuck

[crisp obsidian]

I have progenesiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

[brazen vector]

https://pobb.in/6_-CNtL6RCt_

Why does pobbin sometimes delete items

[soft perch]

i love the turtle

[dusty mesa]

i just added convocation to save him

[soft perch]

it just lives even without any tree nodes

[wintry lily]

You have to keep in mind, we're not playing a minion build

[karmic gust]

soul ascension

for damage ag

[wintry lily]

and our ag is for the most part with doppelganger and a rare boots for keeping it alive.

[karmic gust]

at least

[icy zinc]

yehh soul ascension kinda existed for a while but it did use it for upkeep

slay 💅 ag

[wintry lily]

ig tranfusion support > empower 4

[karmic gust]

read transfusion first pls :d

[wintry lily]

also "just get roa with swift affliction imbue"

[soft perch]

i wanna use transfusion but i have absolutely no idea how id fit it lul

[wintry lily]

db why must your build use obscure skills to do things

[rough tulip]

cause it wouldnt be him elseway

[soft perch]

im pretty sure el turtlo is fine without transfusion tho

[whole bluff]

I wanna use it on wand attack since dmg is gonna be spellslinger, but then I need to mess with life stuff

[opal ingot]

i want lifetap on all my skills

[frigid wedge]

v what are u referring to

[wintry lily]

No, his branding is "Doppelganger + Tides of time/rare flask charge belt + pathfinder + bismuth flask"

[whole bluff]

Transfusion

[frigid wedge]

ah

[wintry lily]

Its the same as captainlance's "Balbala + coruscating"

[opal ingot]

holy juice

[frigid wedge]

so just generic pf

[karmic gust]

technically i guess you can just link transfusion to flamedash instead for now

[rough tulip]

new guys wont even remember the OG scourge arrow era, smh my head

[karmic gust]

just drop something

[wintry lily]

You cant pay me to use flame dash

[karmic gust]

well what moveskill are you using then link to that one :d

[wintry lily]

yes

frostblink :d

[icy zinc]

scary ag

yeah basically giving nearby AG perma souls

[frigid wedge]

what helm is that

[icy zinc]

the hallowed monarch

[cerulean breach]

so GGG is blaming server instability on DDoS but eh I'm not buying it

it must be a crazy coincidence the DDoS people start their attack every time I open three very juiced breaches at the same and the server slows down to a crawl

[wintry lily]

also what link slots :d

[frigid wedge]

oh interesting

[wintry lily]

yes the helmet is where the ag sits, no i dont have empower 4.

[gray thorn]

build ?

[soft perch]

what do they have to gain from lying

and theyre usually pretty upfront when they fuck up

[wintry lily]

You're asking conspiracy theorists a bit too much.

[gentle chasm]

he opened juiced maps?

dump iut

[icy zinc]

was funny reading ddos groups target ggg servers

[wintry lily]

Deathbeam's Pathfinder Poison Scourge Arrow Ballista.

[icy zinc]

but people always got shit to add

been happening for past 5 years wah

[cerulean breach]

what's the conspiracy theory lol?

[karmic gust]

forgot Prolif

[icy zinc]

i guess

[karmic gust]

branding ruined

[cerulean breach]

it's the same at every league start, servers are oversubscribed

[gentle chasm]

but its not tho

[soft perch]

server capacity is like 0 issue for ggg though lol

[wintry lily]

Prolif is baked into pathfinder.

Like, what the fuck would you take on pf

[karmic gust]

sstill must be included in name

[frigid wedge]

deathbeam would i be an idiot to build a pathfinder defences first and slot in gear that fits

[icy zinc]

man, that ag build uses smite of divine judgement, its packing a crazy punch

[soft perch]

u can argue that ddos and server capacity are sort of related but i dont think thats a reasonable take

[karmic gust]

nah that is the way :d

[cerulean breach]

it's not my take

[wintry lily]

I'll put things in the name if you're the only person using it :d

like nature's boon pathfinder

[frigid wedge]

excellent

[wintry lily]

:d

[icy zinc]

Xd

[wintry lily]

or master distiller pathfinder :d

[karmic gust]

i was when i made the build smh my head

so it must stay

its like adidas

[wintry lily]

not anymore

[frigid wedge]

i was actually considering that node for smth

[dusty mesa]

decided to look again lmao

[wintry lily]

go sue the others out of using the branding then i will consider it again :d

[soft perch]

we know ggg has access to insane server capacity because of poe2

[dusty mesa]

just keeps optimizing

[soft perch]

the servers are not going to crumble cuz of 30k people playing poe1

there might be backend issues but they usually just say

[icy zinc]

yeah poe 2 servers were quite smooth on launch of druids

comfy

[gentle chasm]

arent they on cloud infra anyway

shits basically infinite

[icy zinc]

bo7 dont ddos

[karmic gust]

everyrone else now must use 🅱️rolif instead

[gentle chasm]

sorry kiddo, your map is done

[soft perch]

i think 30k people playing poe1 is literally orders of magnitude lower than what theyre capable of in terms of capacity

[gentle chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-professor-x-illuminati-illuminati-dr-strange-professor-xavier-gif-26021431

[wintry lily]

he opened da map? duump et

[fossil mural]

They said once they are ready for a mil

[noble sleet]

so uhh is totem KF better than just a pure KF by itself?

[vernal ravine]

just different builds

[icy zinc]

fuck sake now im gonna write 400 words text forum post

[wintry lily]

Idk where you're getting the 30k from but uh

Should still be within their margins

[icy zinc]

Ggs

[split maple]

totem is cheaper to get going

[soft perch]

oh hey 77k people playing is pretty good

[split maple]

but well its totem

[opal ingot]

🥹

why didn't i win the 1%

[wintry lily]

totems are generally safer and easier to scale initially

[soft perch]

this league doing pretty well huh

[noble sleet]

how many are on two

[half stream]

24h peak on PoE 1 on steam is 113k atm. A long long time ago they said steam and standalone were around the same order of magnitude. So ~200k daily peak? But quite a bit more logging in every day, EU vs US vs other

[icy zinc]

i mean thats 30k on steam and 20k somewhere on standalone

[wintry lily]

well, as boring as mirages are, the mechanic by itself is indeed insane.

[icy zinc]

gonna understand standalone is huge too

[icy zinc]

yeah even more so

[rough tulip]

thats only steam, more on standalone too

[wintry lily]

Since its just doubling anything you want to do (sometimes)

[icy zinc]

idk requires opening steam charts

[vernal ravine]

35% increased experience, did i miss anything? https://pobb.in/lZECxDsRYtiC

[icy zinc]

what it atm?

[cloud pilot]

A long long time ago they said steam and standalone were around the same order of magnitude.
yeah that's wrong fyi

[wintry lily]

Yeah we're more than likely on a 150k+ player

since the peak is 114k

[icy zinc]

definitely somewhere around 100k on friday especially

before bed yesterday i kinda thought "yep, friday, gonna disconnect all day today"

[dusty mesa]

does anyone have the comparison to peak of last leagues?

[half stream]

Oh is there more info on that? I'd love to know

[icy zinc]

so far so good

[dusty mesa]

I can't get on steam atm

[wintry lily]

poedb should

[cloud pilot]

when they posted "peak numbers ever" for settlers, steam was a majority of those numbers

[rough tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[cloud pilot]

it's not remotely 1:1

[icy zinc]

never stated 1:1

[wintry lily]

it used to be official client for a while

[icy zinc]

more so 67:33

[dire valley]

bro....2x in price

[wintry lily]

when poe got more popular it just went to steam count instead

for obvious reasons

[dire valley]

I am not getting my PF setup it seems

[icy zinc]

worth it

ocultist insane

[cloud pilot]

I am not responding to you, am I?

[half stream]

67:33 sounds reasonable, I must've missed those settlers numbers

[dusty mesa]

appreciate it

[icy zinc]

hextoad build occu

[dire valley]

they were 20d yesterday

[wintry lily]

steamdb

[icy zinc]

yeah

[half stream]

Got a link to their post?

[cloud pilot]

anyway, league is good and has good numbers, despite server issues

[icy zinc]

dude, economy changes everyday

[wintry lily]

man september 2024 to may 2025 was fucking ROUGH

[icy zinc]

word

[cloud pilot]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/238960/view/4342117228518255346

[icy zinc]

hows that related

im confuse

[cloud pilot]

350k kalguur (230k steam)

[wintry lily]

But yeah kalguurs seems to be the peak popularity

[dusty mesa]

the beginning of the end

[icy zinc]

yeah so 67:33

nvm

[noble sleet]

gotta say ele hit is very interesting

[wintry lily]

close second being crucible league

[somber perch]

20 mins ago coworker hit me up on teams asking for a carry in a nightmare map because i mentioned to him i play the game 😭

[wintry lily]

this league probably being 3rd most popular league by far on peak numbers

[cloud pilot]

timeline of what has happened:
multiplicity says steam and standalone is near 1:1
I say no
you say "no one claimed 1:1"
I say yes, multi did
now we're here

[dusty mesa]

I feel like the whole poe2/settlers thing killed league starts going forward, but Im glad mirage has solid retention

its good league

[icy blaze]

YOOOOOOOOOOOO WTF ROG

I'm not even in Endgame

[icy zinc]

ah everythings correct then

[wintry lily]

thats a pretty high amount of players considering this is within the dead weeks of poe leagues

[frigid wedge]

where life

[icy zinc]

tbh ill dig where the correct numbers were mentioned once

before settler

not sure how accurate

[wintry lily]

think phrecia was going on in january?

dont remember

[icy zinc]

it was during when steam was very bad for updating

even so i also did standalone

and so anyone who never switched during closed beta/open beta

[half stream]

I wonder if we're making a correct assumption that the steam:standalone ratio during peak player count events is applicable during normal league days

My perception which may be wrong is that peak launches brings in a ton of more casual players who just play for a bit each launch, like only on weekends, and that that group skews more steam heavy

Still either way, great expansion IMO. Love the new endgame

[wintry lily]

I mean yeah, peak numbers hasn't been in consideration for how popular a league is for a while now

its how well it retains it

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut given i've not seen people bitching about retention yet on reddit.

it seems fine.

[noble sleet]

yeah ele hit has a TON of clear at like no investment wtf

[wintry lily]

have fun this league

cuz ggg DEFINITELY killing it next league

[dusty mesa]

Yea there are only a few complaints for this league which is good

[wintry lily]

its pretty much just, mirage is kinda boring at most in of itself.

[whole bluff]

The mirage mechanic?

[wintry lily]

since the whole point of it is just double whatever youre doing

no, ele hit clear.

[thick ocean]

can i somehow scale how often the shocknova from the shrine belt hits? or is it fixed?

[whole bluff]

Ah

[dusty mesa]

my one complaint is what you said earlier, why do I spawn in on a thousand enemies

especially as PF when my flasks are down even thought its fixing my defenses lol

[wintry lily]

I think thats primarily a flaw in where the portals are located as a whole

And also because we're all running narrower maps

just so mirage is more likely to double more mechanics

[dusty mesa]

I've been rushing city square

[wintry lily]

I didnt notice it as much on other maps

[dusty mesa]

and it still happens

[karmic gust]

i feel like this does not happen for literally any other content almost

[wintry lily]

but city square, lair etc is horrible

[karmic gust]

even for super juiced maps you always have some room at start of the map

so idk why mirage is different

[wintry lily]

city square the portals LARGELY spawn near chokes.

[karmic gust]

and there are always mobs on top of you

[wintry lily]

Which means you're often spawning in a corner or at a choke

[dusty mesa]

this is the only reason I haven't leveled up in a bit btw lol

[wintry lily]

they are rarely close to the middle and even then there's a wall next to you

[whole bluff]

They could make some thing where you land in the mirage on a misty surface, and you can click somewhere on the screen "Traverse the astral chain and descemd to the Mirage"

[dusty mesa]

bc I want to take mirages

[wintry lily]

meaning that the mobs dont really have a place to spawn

[whole bluff]

So you can buff if required, or just load etc

[wintry lily]

other than right on you

[dusty mesa]

and then I have to die a couple times to clear

[wintry lily]

I didnt have this problem when I accidentally clicked on strand

[karmic gust]

yea it sometimes do be feeling like entering simu afrer you die

[wintry lily]

[karmic gust]

except you just entered mirage instead and its not your fault xd

[wintry lily]

strand too wide

[icy zinc]

yeah, old info 2022 "Over the weekend, we launched Path of Exile: Siege of the Atlas. We're pleased to report that deployment was extremely smooth with no major issues! We also hit a new record for peak concurrent players at 270,260! " at that time steam showed peak of "158,140 concurrent active players on Steam" https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3233159

[wintry lily]

doesnt help that our totems get instantly destroyed

[dusty mesa]

can't wait to do a simmy on mines for my bloodline lmao

[icy zinc]

so 70% / 30%

[karmic gust]

just buy carry ez

i think jiji paid like 30c for his or soemthing xd

[signal marten]

what does this mod mean for me in terms i can understand?
https://link.hawolt.com/e8VXlp

[dusty mesa]

I actually think slower proj should be fine in simmys?

[karmic gust]

probably yea

[stuck phoenix]

Monsters take 40% less spell damage

[dusty mesa]

I don't have prog yet

[icy zinc]

it means you should stop playing spell skills

[dusty mesa]

so thats unfortunate

[icy zinc]

and go strike aka melee

join the melee club

[signal marten]

thank you guys

[karmic gust]

can always slap on bloodnotch i guess

for simus

[dusty mesa]

yea true

[signal marten]

im playing some uh.. REAP

[karmic gust]

you even have RF eating all your es

so its perfect xd

[dusty mesa]

I could slap on sorrow

instead*

[karmic gust]

doesnt work with mana flasks

[frigid condor]

I really like this league, but if I could change 2 small things, it would be a) more mirage wish variety and b) reroll currency for wishes

[dusty mesa]

ah does it not

[wintry lily]

@karmic gust

[icy zinc]

ah, reap, very very melee...

[karmic gust]

theres a bug report ggg just lazy fixing it smh

[dusty mesa]

dang

[karmic gust]

yea thats not good idea at all :d

[dusty mesa]

I guess I live with an amethyst

[wintry lily]

explain me no smart

[icy zinc]

@karmic gust you should increase reef map a couple tiers up, amazing density, skip boss and its gr8 9/10 map

[karmic gust]

80% less damage support

gg

[soft perch]

my assumption is the amount of people using standalone vs steam should reduce steadily over time

[dusty mesa]

less duration on poison is bad

[wintry lily]

https://tenor.com/view/no-shit-what-the-wtf-speechless-wut-gif-14362835

[fossil mural]

Surely mamba 😩

[signal marten]

yes no spell at all :D

[icy zinc]

yeah that's the tendention anyways

just any player count should be included with standalone

which hard to track

[karmic gust]

i will put that on github to not forget i can look at it

[icy zinc]

that added to main point

[dusty mesa]

on most* poisons lol

[karmic gust]

ez

[icy zinc]

neat

[fossil mural]

Tendency*

[soft perch]

reef sucks

[wintry lily]

probably not worth it tbh

[karmic gust]

noted

[icy zinc]

rip

[fossil mural]

Racecourse gaming 😩

[icy zinc]

theres not much density vibed maps

[karmic gust]

why are there never gifs for what im lookking for in this stupid gif finder smh

[frigid wedge]

sadism mamba would be so unbelievably reliant on alchy mark

[icy zinc]

reef was added back in 3.28

which is why its a vibe with mirage

[supple wren]

Okay wtf. I just crashed twice back to back for no reason. Was playing just fine all night.

[icy zinc]

huge packs

would play that over current metacluck maps

[fossil mural]

You mean on 6m targeting range on ac

[frigid wedge]

hm?

[whole bluff]

Of donuts delivered to GGG servers in a massive ddos

[fossil mural]

Ancestral call

[split maple]

db please 🙏

[soft perch]

imagine not running 3000 city squares

[frigid wedge]

i meant for dps

[whole bluff]

Server personel is going wild

[icy zinc]

kinetic fusillade totems are pulling servers down by 11 years

it is what it is

[dusty mesa]

everyone trying to put DB to work

[neon veldt]

Havent gotten any of the skill gem coins yet, why are they so rare, i've been farming ulti+deli, and whenever a mirage spawns on an ultimatum, i full clear the mirage, i'm like 40divs into my build already, but 0 of the skill gem coins

[karmic gust]

im planning to update on weekend

[fossil mural]

City square is dogwater for essence

[soft perch]

imagine running essence

[fossil mural]

Always

[icy zinc]

oh we hating essence now

[wintry lily]

shouldnt have given himself the initials DB and maintain a databse :d

[dusty mesa]

essence is actually garbage this league

[icy zinc]

smh

[dire valley]

Guys dont buy deli scarabs

[icy zinc]

two wrong cant make a right

[dire valley]

Deli is bad

[fossil mural]

Doug said he profited 1div per map on fast maps

[dire valley]

Let me run it for you guys

[icy zinc]

guys dont buy originator maps

[karmic gust]

currently too busy to update sorry

[dusty mesa]

yea and I profit that on any other setup I do

[wintry lily]

not one pace. smh

[dusty mesa]

based show

[soft perch]

i have so many originator maps i dont even know what to do with them

[wintry lily]

sell it

[fossil mural]

Sell them for 2c

[dusty mesa]

give them to mappers

[icy zinc]

madam web

[wintry lily]

or that too

i might do that with myy shaper guardian maps

[soft perch]

the mappers get my guardians

[wintry lily]

i dont want to run em

[karmic gust]

stopped watching at alabasta a while ago because vivi is dogshit character

[dusty mesa]

ah fair

[karmic gust]

but alabasta over so decided to watch again

[fossil mural]

What do you think on netflix one

[icy zinc]

just keep collecting theres 6 tabs of map

[karmic gust]

i liked it

[hoary scarab]

l

[karmic gust]

they made vivi 10 times more likable there xxd

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

[karmic gust]

so it was actually watchable

[fossil mural]

Db hates white people confirmed

[dusty mesa]

Alabasta was a solid arc though. There's only one arc I don't like in the show really

[soft perch]

ive considered giving these to my mappers

[icy zinc]

theres no loss

so sure

[hoary scarab]

everything after dressrosa

[soft perch]

do u get multiple frags from them

or is it just 1

[karmic gust]

i couldnt watch when they were just spam crying there every 3 minutes

[icy zinc]

3 nightmare maps a map means 51 maps to gain 170 nightmare

[karmic gust]

very unbearable

[dusty mesa]

that's fair, I'm looking through the lens of nostalgia on stuff that far back

[wintry lily]

Yeah I should throw them into mappers.

[compact gorge]

why can't i recover my resolve ? Why is it gayed ?

[dusty mesa]

but also, dressrosa was good but very stretched out

[compact gorge]

grayed*

[gritty epoch]

Empy: Shows 8 mirrors
Also Empy: Ground loot bad

[fossil mural]

Nah its gay

[hoary scarab]

dressrosa was the beginning of filler piece

[polar prism]

did they rework the more currency on t16.5 (are the rolls always 120% or + ?)

[noble sleet]

Man I need a loot filter on

[fossil mural]

He said its the only place where its good

[dusty mesa]

yea but the arc themselves are good

[wintry lily]

Same vibe as "Billionare didn't get 10m dollar this quarter, only 8m dollar"

[hoary scarab]

went from like 2 chaoters per episode to 0.5 chapters per episode, thats when i wanted to quit

[neon veldt]

Fubgooner farmed like 2 mirrors solo while they farmed 8 as like 6man + 2 traders

[dusty mesa]

I did for a bit ironically. Thats when I caught up to manga

[gritty epoch]

8 mirrors each

[neon veldt]

Oh

[fossil mural]

No?

[neon veldt]

Each??

[fossil mural]

Its 1m 126div per person

[gritty epoch]

Oh it's split

My bad

[cosmic reef]

So let me get this straight: streamers like Fubdumb or whatever his name is get to abuse an abyss mechanic, and then regular players like me come close to being able to do it wasting money to get it going, and they remove it? Basically, they ruined the whole economy for casual gamers. I cant't stand GGG or streamers, this is so lame. For anyone wondering people were dropping 100 div a day doing this abyss strat, so good luck buying any expensive items you wanted.

[stuck phoenix]

Is this bait

[split maple]

6d/h ignoring mirror appreciation

pretty sadge

[split maple]

#2┃general

unless you complaining about 3.26 not being a thing in 3.28 lol

[gentle chasm]

isnt that old bait by now

[fossil mural]

Its pasta from poo2

[dire valley]

Classic empy haul

[stuck phoenix]

I see

[fossil mural]

Idk why he posted it lmao

[cosmic raptor]

who wanna party play with me

[remote sparrow]

Has poe2 flair,

Has awful take about group play checks put

[fossil mural]

Also the abyss strat was more than 100div day*

😩

[cosmic raptor]

1 mirror per frame

[fossil mural]

It was like actual poe1 numbers

[cosmic raptor]

blink and you miss it

[fossil mural]

25-30divh

Day 1-3

Just raw divs

[karmic gust]

imagine farming abyss in poe2

[dusty mesa]

its kinda funny how poe1 strats used to be like 7d/hr for good strats lol

[karmic gust]

wehn you can just farm boxes in poe1

[hoary scarab]

who plays games more than 4 hours per day

[karmic gust]

peak entertainment

[cosmic reef]

if your loot filter doesnt hide mirrors

[karmic gust]

[fossil mural]

Fubgooners

[noble sleet]

y'all poe 2 haters?

[remote sparrow]

God, affliction leauge printing mirrors with abyss

[dusty mesa]

more like poe2 disappointers

[rose quail]

No. But waiting for full release now basically.

[bronze falcon]

Turns out, following a build guide is pretty important if you want your char to perform even remotely like it does in the vids...

[karmic gust]

yes i spit on poe2 wallpaper on my wall the other day and slapped it silly

[bronze falcon]

Why was that a reply...

[fossil mural]

Do you also hump it aggressively?

[noble sleet]

I'm WAITING on swords which I'm sure a lot of people are hyped for swords espeically

[dusty mesa]

poe2 has potential bc GGG can make good games

but its far from it atm

[noble sleet]

I hope 0.5 will give us that juicy rework poe 1 got lmao. Ohh man

[rose quail]

Eh, I think PoE2 is good. Just people want it to be something it's not.

[karmic gust]

no i would hurt myself, im not from us so my walls arent made of cardboard 🙁

[hoary scarab]

weirdchamp up in here

[dusty mesa]

i think "what arpg doesnt have swords on release" lmao, or a sustainable endgame

[remote sparrow]

Truly I feel really sad poe2 just feels... bad to play like everytime you make a new cool build using niche interactions they just nerf it like. OOO you are playing outside of the box we made for you get rid of it!!! Feels so awful as a build maker

[cosmic raptor]

im gonna be sick

[rose quail]

Well, PoE2 hasn't released yet soooooo

[noble sleet]

sometimes it's hard for me to go back to this game cause the animations and skills are kinda... basic and shared across where 2's looks a lot more polished

[noble sleet]

got em

[dusty mesa]

which is mainly a problem with the modern gaming industry, sure

I don't think it excuses ggg

[cosmic reef]

poe2 has far too many bugs to be enjoyable rn

[dusty mesa]

I just think people should stop releasing unfinished games

[fossil mural]

Oh yea that is a real issue

[remote sparrow]

Yea I agree its basic but also tbh U play the game with ur minimap at a certain point of mob juicing anyway lol

[rose quail]

It doesn't. What does tho is that some of the early weapon types were and are massive poopers in PoE1. Getting swords done is "easy"

[noble sleet]

we're crossbow mains

[rose quail]

I agree with that. That's why I am waiting for full release now

[icy zinc]

Totally unrelated, everyday path of exile gamer say to themselves what to farm and quit league forever, is it you today?

[dusty mesa]

I'm sure what happens is:
Years worth of work goes into game, but unreleased
They aren't making enough money to sustain work on said game
They prerelease it to cover costs
Its not great
Now they have to apologize and use resources they said they weren't gonna use

[rose quail]

Ironically I stopped playing exactly when crossbow reload bugged

[dusty mesa]

also I maybe wrong

[native abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-7434634924845802139

[dusty mesa]

but that's what it seems like

[noble sleet]

idk if y'all played druid at all but uhh let me say... each form has a busted ass fun build lmao. theres even a plant build....

[dusty mesa]

fwiw I love spears

[noble sleet]

ohh man it had so much jank on controller tooo. Something I would never get on my lightning arrow roha build

[cerulean breach]

@soft perch here, this happens all the time for me

https://youtu.be/sPzLlJX6JMw

notice how the server lag starts as I open 3 breaches in a mirage at 1:40, this happens consistently, all the time, on EU servers only

there's more than just DDoS going on on EU servers

[rose quail]

Depends on company. Some legitimately want to get user feedback to improve it. Look at Larian and BG3. And GGG has a history of both actually delivering and also delivering ass

[cosmic reef]

poe2 also is weird because its a ridiculously huge campaign experience for such a seasonal league game

[icy zinc]

triple breach cinema

[dusty mesa]

I still think FromSoft is one of the best modern gaming companies

bc they only release full games

[remote sparrow]

I mean Chris woke up one day unhappy with how poe2 was going and I dont have to do this and went nah Im good and left company to do his own thing.

[dusty mesa]

and they're always bangers

[pallid wing]

is this worth something

[noble sleet]

I love the campaign a lot in two. I think all my newer arpg friends do as well

[icy zinc]

couple alteration shards

[soft perch]

might also be an issue with breach specifically

[pallid wing]

thank you

[icy zinc]

also not the channel for pricechecks if anything

[rose quail]

Well, their quality definitely does speak for them.

[dusty mesa]

ye lol

[cosmic reef]

yeah its a fun campaign but the replayability sucks ass

[icy zinc]

install poe awakened macro

[rugged crow]

just got my pyroclast mines build to the point that it can bug the audio and lag my pc, its beautiful

[remote sparrow]

Ehh not really tbh, use Awakened poe

[noble sleet]

I do wanna try this wyvern oil barrage build next

[karmic gust]

i have this with miragees aswell, with exped

[tight plinth]

[median rock]

any kingsmarch enjoyers in here? does distance to the port matter for 50mln shipments?

[native abyss]

i hate those stupid ass contracts i can’t price check them

[karmic gust]

everythign is fine and then it just goes to 1fps its giga annoying

[cosmic reef]

contracts go in the 1c tab

[karmic gust]

and its 100% server just being completely fucked

[gentle chasm]

contracts remain on the ground cause nobody runs them

[dusty mesa]

Like covid era started the mess with gaming companies delaying games and releasing unfinished products. FromSoft delays, but they always release bangers. Albeit, they'll have bugs, but as massive as ER is, that was gonna happen no matter what

[karmic gust]

but yea its way too consistent

[cosmic reef]

if anyone is desperate enough to heist they can have a 1c contract

[median rock]

go predictive

[icy zinc]

chat if mirage is 2 maps in a map, then alva is 5 maps in a map, isn't that correct?

[karmic gust]

to be actually ddos related it sounds more fucked up

[native abyss]

some people said the deception ones only worth picking up

[rose quail]

Only for the manner of how long you wait. What does matter is which port you send to because not all extra stuff is worth the same. Idk which tattoos/runes are now the best so idk the port you would need to pick tho

[remote sparrow]

I am playing fine on Auckland server It has to be an issue with EU setup but idk

[native abyss]

maybe i leave them on the ground then

[dusty mesa]

all of this to say, I think poe2 will eventually be a banger

[icy zinc]

cant even tell theyre on the ground cause filtered rip

[soft perch]

i mean it makes sense for weaker ddos's to cause issues for heavy instances like juiced up breaches no

[median rock]

for mirror shards it doesnt matter though right?

[soft perch]

and to be not noticable or less noticable elsewhere

[icy zinc]

stated in 3.28 that the currency bias removed

[karmic gust]

yea but in my case its just basic ass exped

[tidal lintel]

has anyone found the forgotten afarud commander monster marker in logbooks that don't have the mod that guarantees that it spawns?

[hoary scarab]

thats so blantantly wrong lmao, you know chris wanted ruthless to be the main game right

[tidal lintel]

I've been looking for a while but I'm unsure if it's even possible

[karmic gust]

where the regular exped is fine i enter mirage it has even less mobs

and its just completely fucked up

[rose quail]

Naaah. That cancer was there way before C-19. I agree with the idea of pre-release when it's used as should. Thing is, that hasn't been the case for most companies for a long while.

[karmic gust]

consistently

[noble sleet]

bruh I can't believe this is a damn stash tab lmao

[cosmic reef]

poe2 campaign was good. but act 4 sucks so much ass that it ruined the game

[soft perch]

act 4 is widely regarded as the best act lul

[rose quail]

No, doesn't matter for regular currency. But you will be cutting in the moolah you get if you don't optimize. In the end it's just one time investment to figure out which one you need

[tidal lintel]

also good to know the lag in expedition isnt just me, I had to remove hex bloom because it caused insane latency spikes

[soft perch]

its also quite short

[noble sleet]

wtf..... I've heard the OPPOSITE lmao

[soft perch]

100% skill issue

act 3 is the hated act

people like act 4

[rose quail]

They changed it so that this patch regular currency is same all over

[cosmic reef]

act 3 is fun

[median rock]

IF people have already posted info on what drops where

[noble sleet]

there really are two fences to everything in life

[cerulean breach]

the only thing predictive does for you is that you don't immediately realize you are lagging

[remote sparrow]

Brother I had a conversation with him IRL and he said this to my face word for word "I woke up and realized I don't have to be here" and he left GGG

[icy zinc]

aye "Ports no longer have a bias towards a specific type of currency while shipping."

[rose quail]

Wiki was updated afaik

[icy zinc]

ie kalguur prefered exalts

[hoary scarab]

sure bud

[median rock]

oh right they area showing grafts ye

[rose quail]

Ye now they changed the preference to the sub-scurrencies.

[icy zinc]

kiwi irl

[hoary scarab]

skin on or skin off

[past mantle]

Act 3 is so much filler. 😴

[icy zinc]

no skin kiwi would be quite sad

[karmic gust]

i liked act 1 in poe2 the most

[cerulean breach]

act 3 is fine

[past mantle]

Could cut out 2 areas from act 3 easily. Couldn't do that in 4.

[cerulean breach]

act 2 nowadays is too much stuff

[karmic gust]

rest was way worse for sure

[dusty mesa]

I think delays started getting bad with c19

[heady hull]

Which caster build do you suggest for the new league?

[hoary scarab]

act 2 is so much worse than act 3 in poe2

[karmic gust]

but also i havent touched poe2 since 0.1

[dusty mesa]

but yea prereleases were already getting bad

[karmic gust]

so

[cerulean breach]

poe2? who's talking poe2

[icy zinc]

tangents

[cerulean breach]

this is the poe1 channel

[dusty mesa]

you may like spears

they're pretty fun

[cosmic reef]

act 3 > act 2 > act 1 > act 4

[cerulean breach]

#2┃general is for poe2

[hoary scarab]

we

[rose quail]

Maybe. But I didn't notice that so unless there is some data out there my gut feeling is that it already was bad

[past mantle]

Act 4 just on it's own beats any ARPG campaign as a whole.

It's just that good.

[cosmic reef]

L ragebait

[soft perch]

agree act 4 is really good, act 1 good fun as well

[winter pier]

boys can anyone recommend a good bossing build

[noble sleet]

that's what I heard a lot of people said lol.

[soft perch]

act 3 sucks and act 2 is average

[dusty mesa]

yea its just my assumption rather than based off data, or rather, that's when I started to notice it

[cosmic reef]

dark pact + tainted pact occultist

[soft perch]

act 3 is so samey its crazy

[quiet gale]

EU servers starting to catch fire or just me?

[past mantle]

Act 3 is great but the good parts are waaaaaaaaaay too short and the bad parts are way too long.

[karmic gust]

not rly planning to touch poe2 anytime soon will wait for 1.0 when the game is actually semi finished at least :d

[past mantle]

And this is after they got shorter.

[winter pier]

i'll look into it thx

[noble sleet]

I play acts ine poe 1 and never look back. All look the same lol

[rose quail]

Unironically we are moving back to trust based stuff rather than pure hype and dreams. Like I trust GGG to get things done eventually even if I skip a league or two

[noble sleet]

just leap slam my way to the end lol

[remote sparrow]

I live in NZ I ran into him at a card event and had that conversation

[dusty mesa]

yea for sure, that's exactly why I talk crap about poe2, but I'll always finish with "it'll be good eventually"

[solid laurel]

I fear for RF in poe2, don't murder my boi

[past mantle]

They already had RF in poe2.

Whatever the unique charm was.

[rose quail]

Yeh. I mean I talk crap exactly because I care for my game

[soft perch]

i hope they dont do more health scaling damage stuff in poe2

[rose quail]

I'm an RF andy but tbh I find PoE2 I don't feel like I have to play something like that. It's snappy enough

[dusty mesa]

I think deflection was a good change for poe2

[past mantle]

No more stacking builds I beg.

[solid laurel]

I just enjoy it way too much, I've been playing it every league absolutely no shame 😂 but I also enjoy the fact I can spend mirrors on the build and keep pushing it towards dotcap

[hoary scarab]

ok sure, but your word for word statement doesnt match your assumption

[noble sleet]

I hear poe 1 glazers say they admire the spirit cosy system in two unlike this game where it just keeps taking mana away lol

[remote sparrow]

RF becomes a for 8 seconds burn around you after killing x mobs

[noble sleet]

is this true?

[cosmic reef]

whats the most fun stacker? abyss jewel stacker?

[past mantle]

Spirit good.

[solid laurel]

Str stack rf

[past mantle]

Mana being a real resource you care about is good.

[hoary scarab]

he has stated that what he didnt like was how big everything got, not poe2 being the reason for his leave

[vast nest]

breach got hiden nerf? i got much less loot today

[remote sparrow]

What assumption?? He said he didn't want to be at company and left thats

[rose quail]

Same same. I have played every RF variant on every Ascendancy there is, well not the new ones yet. But I'm a casual nublet so generally don't get to DoT cap

[dusty mesa]

being able to selfcast is good too

[hoary scarab]

yes, not because of poe2, but because he missed being in a smaller company where you have more control

[dusty mesa]

which goes hand and hand obviously

[noble sleet]

in this game, so many reservations, you only have a drop of mana left lol

[rose quail]

My plan this league is stabilize and then try out the totems for single target and the new belt

[solid laurel]

I'm going for it this league, have about 12m DPS currently and have a lot of upgrades left

[rose quail]

Gief link I'm going to shamelessly steal ideas

[solid laurel]

Go to ninja and sort by DPS for rf

[dusty mesa]

RF with gloom shrine belt actually sounds comfy

[remote sparrow]

He missed being a game dev when he kinda became a company director

[opal ingot]

do you ever use blood filled vessels for stacked decks farm?

[past mantle]

Which means mana can never be real limiter. It's pretty assge bad.

[solid laurel]

You gotta put on lifetap and make sure spider is working if you're importing to pob though

[hoary scarab]

yes thats literally what i said, this has nothign to do with poe2 as you stated

[soft perch]

no

[past mantle]

But then they decided to add a bunch of cooldowns so I sleep. 😴

[karmic gust]

wait

[rose quail]

Ooh. Scion LL. Ye, I get the idea

[karmic gust]

does this mean if i spend bunch of life at once

the minion gains multiple souls at once

[solid laurel]

It scales pretty well, should end on 35k es or so

[soft perch]

youd have to test this

[median rock]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rsmzx0/50_mill_shipment_2_and_3/ thats kinda spooky

maybe 17.5 is better

[remote sparrow]

Im not gonna convince you about anything so ima stop here but I know what we talked about

[solid laurel]

And the aoe is already at 4m, should go to 4.3-4.5

[rose quail]

Ye. It's expensive but the scaling is there

[karmic gust]

if i works then mayb ei can use it on mana miner then :d

[tranquil sedge]

well ive gottten two zero shard 50m in a row before, it happens lol

and 17m u expect 0 over 1 most shipments anyway

guy got unlucky i think

[wintry lily]

mfw my game is so fucked i almost didnt pick this thing up

[tranquil sedge]

sample size of 3 is too small to draw conclusions

[tacit blaze]

is congregation support any good for getting 4th Spector or is value too low?

[wintry lily]

literally no audio so i didnt even know it dropped

[whole bluff]

If he said to you he was unhappy with poe2, I don't think someone else's reinterpretation needs to mess with that yeah. Or if he said something else

[tranquil sedge]

ghazzy has an entire video about that exact gem (is congregation good) if u wanna watch it

[past mantle]

It's good value when you use the spectre helmet/dark monarch.

[tight plinth]

how to calculate buffs expire slower? duration x 1.(value)?

[past mantle]

Yes.

[vague steeple]

Which mod or add-on was good again? The one that said the map has reflections?

[tight plinth]

wouldnt that just be more duration?

[soft perch]

divided by

[karmic gust]

someone was linking corrupting fever with transufsion before so if it works that would mae a lot of sense i guess

[tacit blaze]

well I was just wondering if it would raise limit from 3 to 4

[tight plinth]

slower splaff 😭

[past mantle]

Yes.

[past mantle]

It would.

[dark kite]

god the voidstone map conversion is so nice

[opal ingot]

ty

[tacit blaze]

thank you

[tranquil sedge]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Expiration_rate

[crisp sinew]

Dear GGG, why are we being punished for juicing expedition?
the more you invest in it, the fewer maps you can run
on top of 120% chance to avoid all hits...
at least make it so that there's either a cap on how many immunities appear or each remnant can only have 1 immunity

[soft perch]

then yea its just *

[median rock]

every single one of these are sending to str tattoo port i wonder if im trolling for going for grafts

[tranquil sedge]

?

[soft perch]

should also be multiplicative with increased duration

[tranquil sedge]

you know you aren't forced to take remnants yes?

[solid laurel]

I need to get Inc aoe magic jewel corrupts too 😭

10% Inc aoe per jewel is neat

[tranquil sedge]

and if ur planning to minmax expedition obviously you should be building for it too?

like a build that does ground dot for example could ignore 5000% avoid hits if it wanted to

[past mantle]

If you wanna do the hardest content you build for it.

[tranquil sedge]

^ this is just a complaint coz u have a build not good for expedition

[crisp sinew]

there's literally only 1.5 mods that brick my build, what are you on about

[soft perch]

we are definitely in an era of poe where u should build characters for the farming strats u want to do

[past mantle]

Juiced expedition has always been bait for people who don't run very specific builds for it.

[soft perch]

if youre doing anything hit based youre going to struggle with expedition

[spare ore]

love how my ultimatum is just literally gone from my map lol

[soft perch]

expedition definitely favours dot builds

[median rock]

always has been

[rose quail]

For sure. I haven't decided yet on what to settle. It's nice to have options after RF being so samey

[tranquil sedge]

hit based builds have always been weak at expedition once u start running long remnant chains in logbooks or hit a juicy combination of remnants

[visual stream]

asia sever on stroke or something guys ?

[eternal apex]

Wish I could add Individual Items rather than trades to the "favourites" section :(

[tranquil sedge]

and the new scarab is basically the equivalent of cramming a ton of remnants into a few of them at once

[past mantle]

Yep.

[soft perch]

frontal parry + avoid hits + block chance = have fun playing non-dot expedition

[cerulean breach]

I think bloodsoaked banner is the new expedition king

[remote sparrow]

Hey does anyone know if the how Perfect crime triggerbots works with the summoned mirages from new unique scepter sands of time. Would the spell they cast have the 30% reduced damge from triggered abilities from trigger bots? They cast thier spell and are not triggering that spell but are summoned from a trigger so im really unsure

[tranquil sedge]

the only one that stands out the most is immunity remnants but again just dont hit the ones that has ur immunity to it

or play a build that does 2 types of damage to get around it

[past mantle]

Bloodsoaked is pretty good for it.

[cerulean breach]

kinda sad that's a gem you can't reasonably play on leaguestart though =/

[soft perch]

they bypass the triggerbots downside

[opal ingot]

game is ruined

divine dropped and i didn't hear the tink

[cerulean breach]

bleed eviscerate glad is probably the best until that point

[soft perch]

the proxy is triggered by triggerbots which triggers the spell

[cerulean breach]

pick it up and re-drop it

[soft perch]

because the proxy is triggered and not the spell

u dont get the 30% less damage

[past mantle]

Armour is unusable for juiced expeditions. Gotta do something very specific.

[solid laurel]

Yeah, it's a nice separation of builds too, like 1% of RF are scions, but 100% of the top 10 or so will be Scion 😂

[opal ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-gif-27594081

[remote sparrow]

I keep clicking my div for chaos and just swapping the div out for what currency I actually want to sell

[crisp sinew]

yo, if the immunity remnant is in the middle of my expedition, I should just lose half of it
and that's good design, is that what you're sayin?

[tranquil sedge]

don't use big boom?

[cerulean breach]

you still get 20% less from the sceptre itself, but yes triggerbots is good synergy

[soft perch]

i know yea

[past mantle]

Don't take the thing that prevents your damage entirely and if you want to use big explosion then you build around it.

[cerulean breach]

I'm not sure how I feel about the sceptre for generic caster builds

[crisp sinew]

wtf are u takin about, big boom is the only reason you do expedition o.O

[soft perch]

thats what expedition is

[tranquil sedge]

well we found your issue then

[solid laurel]

Chieftain is 10x better early game but absolutely does not scale as well

[cerulean breach]

I think the real interesting part of the sceptre is bypassing limits

[tranquil sedge]

either ur strong enough to do it or u have to risk losing half ur expedition like you said

[remote sparrow]

Ooooh shiiiet that means you can get insane damage on the spells you cast, like im looking at 5.7k base damage a cast and like 700% damage effectiveness per cast for one spell HOLY

[soft perch]

if youre doing big booms without a dot build youre trolling

[past mantle]

You don't have the build to do it so you don't and place your explosions one by one.

[tranquil sedge]

or you just don't it

[crisp sinew]

the difference in loot between big boom and not is insane

[rose quail]

Most people just don't have the money or time to do it. Chief is good starter option because it's so simple but it just doesn't scale all that well. Even Guardian has higher cap

[soft perch]

then make a big boom build

[tranquil sedge]

well find ways to patch your current build to be able to run big boom more consistently then?

[cerulean breach]

most pieces of content you can do with any kind of build with varying degrees of success

[solid laurel]

Yeah, it's way better early, chieftain I mean

[tranquil sedge]

or just use the scarab that adds more explosions/range so u can take all the nodes even without big boom

[cerulean breach]

expedition is like the one piece of content that really requires a dedicated build at the top-end

[past mantle]

Nobody here has compassion for people who refuse to build around a thing. 😴

[soft perch]

just like there are legion builds, delve builds, cloister scarab builds, bossing builds, boss rushing builds

[tranquil sedge]

until u reach such a point

[soft perch]

blight builds

[tranquil sedge]

yea like this is a self inflicted issue brother

[solid laurel]

But in the same breath Scion items are waaaay cheaper first week

[crisp sinew]

My point is the design is flawed but I see y'all just enjoy riding ggg's pp rather than seeing the problem
Peace 👋

[soft perch]

lul

it encourages diversity

[past mantle]

Classic.

[soft perch]

not gggs fault youre dumb

[rose quail]

That's because more than 90% of RF players are carried by Pohx

[cerulean breach]

tbh there is one thing I think that needs changing, and that's the ailment immunity on them

[remote sparrow]

Can you clear big boom with a chaos attack build, my str stacker wanders cleared it quite well

[cerulean breach]

at the very least you need to be able to mark which mods are highlighted

[tranquil sedge]

next time maybe you'll learn to make a better build 👍

[soft perch]

with the doubled remnant scarab itll be rough

[past mantle]

Yeah but it'll brick sometimes.

[cerulean breach]

expedition isn't about how good your build is, just how well it matches expedition

[solid laurel]

People got VERY mad in here when I said pohx was baiting people into chieftain RF (specifically those who want to scale it higher)

[wintry lily]

"why am I dying"

[past mantle]

You can ignore block entirely with a mastery so it ain't that bad.

[tranquil sedge]

well in this context we mean a better build for expedition but ye

[cerulean breach]

attack block

[remote sparrow]

Rf is a mediocre build with an insane guide lol

[solid laurel]

A lot of people are following my Scion RF though, I get spammed for advice on it daily

[tranquil sedge]

its not like i go make a zero clear msoz build then cry that i can't do legion properly or alva properly

[cerulean breach]

non-dot casters can fuck off entirely in expedition

[soft perch]

rf chieftain is a better build than any other rf build until you start investing a lot of currency

[past mantle]

He said chaos attack build.

[soft perch]

nebulis and hinekoras carry so hard

[solid laurel]

Yes I agree

[rose quail]

Eh, to be fair he has always been saying it's the simple option. Even still has Templar listed as better scaling. And I get it. Chief has waaay more apeal to broader audience.

[soft perch]

its also a MUCH better build

like magnitudes better

[heady hull]

Yo, which caster build do you suggest for the new league?

[solid laurel]

He does! But people don't always listen that far 😂

[tranquil sedge]

rf chieftain sells on being noob friendly

it does what it has to 😛

[remote sparrow]

Even on a dot build Expedition big boom can brick lol if your not paying enough attention

[rose quail]

That's on them

[tranquil sedge]

and yea if u hit the wall on it then ur at a point u can make a new build better anyway

[solid laurel]

It does the job very well for what it is

[livid halo]

Rf chieftain takes 5-10 Business days to kill pinnacle bosses

[tranquil sedge]

yea but at that point the only real thing is damage immunity modifiers

[solid laurel]

I kill Uber Uber elder in 2mins now on my RF, which is mostly just phases

[dusty mesa]

yea I also think the people that are following the pohx build are more than likely not capable of making full use of something other than chieftain

[soft perch]

chieftain is absurdly efficient on a budget, you wont even get close to that performance on another ascendancy until u start stacking multipliers on expensive gear

[rose quail]

Yep. But it's also not built to be a bosser.

[solid laurel]

Mines built for all content which is bliss

Just costs mirrors lmaooo

[soft perch]

i do wonder about hierophant rf now tho

[wintry lily]

I'd tell you to restart a new character if it couldn't

[soft perch]

with the totem and the fact that u can get big aoe for rf with mana shit

probably better with transfig tho idk

[past mantle]

I do wanna make an exped build that can do all of the mods this league.

New gems got me thinking and thunking.

[rose quail]

Hiero still works. Just need to actually know how to make it yourself lok

[soft perch]

i mean yea but my point of hiero is searing bond synergy

[remote sparrow]

This is big thing if you are brand new to poe the power per div/ currency invested is so high from chief it is the optimal choice for a new player but you cap out fast and then can't really scale

[rose quail]

Haven't touched it for a long time. But the new transfig totem does look nice

[remote sparrow]

I have a terrible idea for a build that will brick a ton but my god its so sweet, no clue what it could farmt through

[past mantle]

I did try to make a build that would clear juiced expeds in one click previously, only to find out that the enemies are entirely curse immune even with occultist node.

[icy zinc]

another poor dude didnt want to adapt to expedition difficulty by not picking dumb one boom node pretending he has 0 remnants

another day another day

[frigid wedge]

i have a build idea that would brick to reduced flask charges gained

[remote sparrow]

Is it the ward one?

[soft perch]

i have a funny idea for a build where im honestly not sure how aids it is to play but hey it is funny

[past mantle]

I do wanna make a ward build specifically for it.

[icy zinc]

chieftain explodes pretty much one click entire expedition

[rose quail]

If I don't quit the league I'll return to Incinerate memes

[past mantle]

Ward seems usable now but I never interacted with it so I gotta look up how to actually scale it.

[icy zinc]

pull that to juggernaut and berserk, lul

[frigid wedge]

... no...

[icy zinc]

solved class tbf

[soft perch]

my one issue i have with ward is it uses a unique belt

so its a dead archetype in my mind

[frigid wedge]

pf with 200% inc charges gained time

[hoary scarab]

you can prolly get decent numbers with new heroic without using the belt

[past mantle]

If a 100% phys damage hit is avoided, or an enemy is immune to it, it can't poison right?

[soft perch]

yndas is legit like

2500 flat ward

[past mantle]

New heroic seems goodge.

[icy zinc]

isnt there better tech for ward anyways

[soft perch]

or more

[icy zinc]

cold damage

[frigid wedge]

4k*

[karmic gust]

yea when you remove yndas from all of these ward builds

they go from 20k to 5k ward

[ocean field]

can u get to 100% phys damage taken conversion to other element on a CI build?

[karmic gust]

xd

[frigid wedge]

yndas is most of ur ward

[karmic gust]

idk why would they lock whole archetype to a belt instead of fixing it?

just ggg things i guess

[hoary scarab]

theres some decent flat ward scaling from evasion on gloves iirc through the timeless

[icy zinc]

heroic has quite funny keystones

the chance to not break ward

what a funny defensive layer

[frigid wedge]

friend sent me this, for reference of how stupid ynda is

[icy zinc]

all evasion and armour based off ward xd

so weak

[hoary scarab]

it also got nodes that have like 10% chance to restore ward on block, i bet there is one spot that can get you like 60% chance

[ocean field]

tf is ynda

[remote sparrow]

The new ward timeless jewel giving the new keystone of spend your ward to gain 25% of ward as flat cold to an attack. Aka like 5k flat cokd and with the notables possibley having when ward breaks gain 3 iron flask charges with 4 of those and some flask gain % you can have 100% uptime on ward.

[cobalt blade]

yndas means no shrine belt ):

[karmic gust]

well its more of a testament to how shit ward is

[frigid wedge]

ward belt

[karmic gust]

not how good yndas is

[icy zinc]

i guess having your useless ward scaled by es go into armour and evasion, strange build for sure

[cobalt blade]

ye cold timeless jewel thingy seems kinda nuts

[frigid wedge]

didnt say good

[icy zinc]

yeah thats cool

[frigid wedge]

said stupid

its too big of a part

[ocean field]

oh new belt wait no

[icy zinc]

since ward works like a damage barrier its kinda cool potential but still unreliable

[viral mantle]

energy shield still better than armor this league ?

[remote sparrow]

Also would mean you could be immune to one shots of less than like 30k

[icy zinc]

restore ward on block then not break ward ig ig

[subtle crow]

Does the lesser massive shrine from Blunderbore stack with the massive shrine from Screams?

[spark ocean]

wtf? I clicked the divine vessel but the game is like , nah do it again bro

[ocean field]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[frigid wedge]

u can get full ward every hit