1┃general

[full kraken]

@hexed egret is moment when it pops off when I just sneak my duration below my attack delay? Im at .24 dur and .23 attack delay so Im just a tiny bit too fast lol, but timeclasp is 3.4k gold to buy 💀

[final owl]

the charge gen stuff looks like nice free charge gen for wardloop at least 😛

[soft perch]

hateforge

wait this build seems broken wtf i just thought about it

[proud gorge]

ah yeah, that actually works yeah

[hexed egret]

You want to lower your duration as much as possible yes

[spice pecan]

how do you solve rage with hateforge tho

[soft perch]

super easy

[proud gorge]

warcries probably?

[hexed egret]

If it feels weird lower your attack speed

Like are you firing before the projectiles get released

[spice pecan]

if warcries, dont you need redblade banner for any sense of consistency

[empty bronze]

vaal temptation is a thing now

[proud gorge]

also Vaal Sacrifice

[spice pecan]

also vengeful cry is retal skill

[soft perch]

there are so many easy ways to solve rage btw

[empty bronze]

so if you have enough soul generation and can survive the degen, you can spam vaal skills

[proud gorge]

lmao

[spice pecan]

you have to solve warcries and also solve taking savage hits to proc vengeful cry for rage tho

[robust gazelle]

is there a faster way to get my 5th scarb slot or do i just have to max maven all 10 times

[proud gorge]

huh? Isn't it just one maven 10-way

so just do the quest I guess yeah

[keen veldt]

how do I remove phrecia listings on exchange

[spice pecan]

ppl have been constantly complaining about not getting map device slot after 10way maven idk

[steel light]

do 10 different t14+ maps, no repeats

[proud gorge]

should happen naturally during atlas completion

[empty bronze]

hmm, vaal temptation lioneye's glare?

[steel light]

yea maybe it's really bugged, too many complains

[spice pecan]

nomegalul, sell to some recomb addict

[soft perch]

@proud gorge youve unironically just made me think of a setup thats probably one of the strongest builds in the game ty

[robust gazelle]

dang lol i just wanna buy a carry for it but i asume not possible sadly

[spice pecan]

or sit on it for a few days till it hits multiple divines

[full kraken]

any easy way to do that on bottom right of tree?

[proud gorge]

ur welcome lmao

[soft perch]

and a really fucking broken use for echoing shrine

because echoing shrine double dips HARD on vaal lightning strike

[proud gorge]

wouldn't Vaal Sacrifice just do the job for "free"

[hexed egret]

Yeah go the left side of the wand circle instead of the right

Did you already take the less duration mastery

[soft perch]

vaal sacrifice is spell only

[proud gorge]

oh, unfortunate

I suppose echoing it is

25% of ward as flat cold damage probably isn't bad at all

only issue is you'd need to, like, invest in ward

[gritty garnet]

belt slot is gone

[proud gorge]

instead of a real defensive stat

and without the ward belt yeah

[full kraken]

wand circle?

[hexed egret]

The circle at the top of the tree

[full kraken]

yep, and 1x timeclasp atm, so Im very close to hitting the breakpoint

[full kraken]

Im bottom right of tree lol

[hexed egret]

Hmmm I would just drop whatever attack speed nodes then

[keen veldt]

anyone know? I can’t seem to claim it in standard 🤔

[hexed egret]

It's better to lower your attack speed because it's easier than lowering duration

Or you can anoint hasty demise on your amulet

[cerulean breach]

it's nto intended that you can't open corrupted maps with twisted fate, right?

[drowsy eagle]

starfall inside mirage it gets doubled right?

[cerulean breach]

migrate your character

[keen veldt]

o ty

[spice pecan]

2x 150 gold HOLY

[worldly bridge]

why the fuck do these three one shot me?

[gritty garnet]

sounds like 0 phys mitigation

[worldly bridge]

is there a mechanic im missing

[gritty garnet]

the rain really hurts

[worldly bridge]

dude i just tried my final portal, literally a single one of those rain bolts kills me even while leeching

[gritty garnet]

and what were map mods

[worldly bridge]

well its too late to tell now

i dont run no leech, minus max, and ele reflect basicallly

[compact gorge]

what's more irritate than seeing the thing you want on sale but you lack juuuust a ittle bit of money to buy it....

[drowsy eagle]

wtf where is my starfall

[gritty garnet]

basically don't stand under the rain, all their shit is phys (even the ground the cycloner leaves) which means lots of damage when rolling extra as ele

[worldly bridge]

its kinda hard to when they summon the rain on top of you and a single bolt kills 😭

every experience ive had with this boss, in vaal maps and in atziri, has been so black or white

[loud geyser]

i think rage gen and then since im running blood stance i can opt into 30% dmg after?

[worldly bridge]

i either kill them just fine with no issue or i literally am oneshot, its so strange

[full kraken]

lol golden oil

[finite quail]

call it. again.

[worldly bridge]

why running blood stance when sand is better defense

[hexed egret]

Hey you asked, you didn't ask for an affordable way

[loud geyser]

more damage

[worldly bridge]

are you playing slams

[gritty garnet]

it's 30% which is a big chunk of damage without having to run a stance skill at all

[loud geyser]

yea

[wintry lily]

Yknow, there's some incredible cognitive dissonance from people who advertise a medium-low budget build then fucking show shit like that div flask in their build showcases https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1ronk4f/void_shockwave_static_strike_berserker_day_2/

[loud geyser]

at least for now

[worldly bridge]

if youre playing slams you dont need 30 inc damage just take rage

[loud geyser]

yeah thats why i said ill opt for 30 inc after for another mastery node?

or should i not bother in that case just opt for better things

[worldly bridge]

even afterwards it seems better to just be in sand stance at all times

but its up to you if you wanna take 19% more dmg from hits

[loud geyser]

eh im playing jugg i feel blood is good for me

[onyx adder]

Whenever u kill a boss the other two heal to full an power up

[stable pumice]

Tf you mean lack

[finite quail]

yall didnt call it but I still won 🤑

[loud geyser]

take 19% more dmg?

[onyx adder]

Dont leave titty bitch to last or the rain will delete ur ass

[worldly bridge]

as you can clearly see, none of the bosse are dead

[worldly bridge]

sand stance gives you 19% less dmg taken from enemies inside its radius fro hits

[onyx adder]

I mean dont stand in the rain anyway

[loud geyser]

oh ok so im not taking 19% more damage im just not taking 19% less

[onyx adder]

If ur build is shit or the map mods are bad it will delete ur ass

[worldly bridge]

basically 19% more

[gritty garnet]

also your exarch altar probably deleted your armour

[loud geyser]

19% more would be above baseline im not taking anymore or less .-.

[finite quail]

[onyx adder]

If she's the only one left the rain has like 2 minute duration tho

[worldly bridge]

i was literally moving and it got summoned on me and before i could move out a single bolt hit me like, do you think im standing still

[wintry lily]

It has a fucking what duration

[loud geyser]

but ty for rage suggestion gna do that now <3

[stable pumice]

If it sold that fast you sure you didn't under sell it?

[onyx adder]

Its a screenshot mate ive got no idea what u were doing

[finite quail]

no it was the prior one i Id'd that hit 99%

[stable pumice]

Ah

[wintry lily]

She has a 2 minute rain duration??? I mean I'd never expect it because she either deletes me or I delete her

[onyx adder]

Anyway vaal temple boss is dangerous, respect it if u value ur xp bar

[onyx adder]

Im not sure how long it is but i think its 120? Might be longer its on poedb

[wintry lily]

monka.

Im glad i've had it burned into me to "always kill titty bitches"

[onyx adder]

Oh no its 30 seconds

Still forever duration tho

[wintry lily]

Even for normal ones, just kill them outright, not worth the hassle of them somehow lining up a firing squad unless youre playing a block build

[whole bluff]

I wanna see a vid with Innocence singing "I'm not that Innocence."

[onyx adder]

Well kill that one the enrage firestorm is dangerous obviously

[full kraken]

you mean Hit Me Baby One More Time?

[wintry lily]

all I remember for the vaal trio is kill the titty bitch > spinny man

[onyx adder]

U can kill cycloner last its fine

[finite quail]

dayum decent rolls

[wintry lily]

Idk, cycloner always gets me when I leave him for last, probably just a me issue tbh

[onyx adder]

This is usually better if ur squishy since the double striker can oneshot squishies when enraged

[whole bluff]

Or Shaggy's "Wasn't Me" as Lycia explains his lore or something

[onyx adder]

The risk with cyclone is u stand in a dot pool, which is much harder to avoid as melee

[meager ridge]

after an unstable breach is stabalized, does killing the extra mobs give more loot?

[final owl]

it would be weird with innnocence's voice. probs wouldn't have the same vibe 😛

[finite quail]

no

[whole bluff]

Didn't even think of Innocence's voice. They really put the juice on that

I just heard Britney Spears on radio and went like, no seriously this would be fun as fuck

[gritty garnet]

if you die to cycloner you're probably dying to phys degen ground/or aren't cb immune

[final owl]

i mean i wanna see it too, but reckon it'd sound weird 😄

[meager ridge]

sorry, to be clear what I meant was not the mobs that spawn from the smaller breaches after stabalize, the mobs spawning form the initial circle

[gritty garnet]

she would be the type of person to play dw poison mamba

[wintry lily]

fair, i think i just have a hard time tracking how fast the cyclone boi comes out of nowhere

[graceful trail]

Could someone explain why some people playing Slayer Sunder are using hydrosphere with battlemage's cry trigger?

[short prairie]

@cosmic eagle i regret not going RF on league start now

[gritty garnet]

it hits the spheres and makes another wave on top of the boss

[spice pecan]

just get a doppelganger guise instead, you won't feel bad anymore

[livid quarry]

i think u can watch vids while farming on rf without too much stress

welp too late to restart

[onyx adder]

U can shotgun off it

[steady otter]

Welcome to the rf club

[hybrid harness]

dmg split 50/50 between life and es so almost 10k regen lmfao

[final owl]

I should try RF one day too. just to tick the box

[onyx adder]

U will sometimes see ppl run two hydrospheres in BMC so that you repeatedly get a fresh hydrosphere for shotgun purposes

[wintry lily]

Just play deaths oath/self ignite prolif or some shit, same vibe anyways

[onyx adder]

Or even BV

[cosmic eagle]

pohx in your ears whispering you to come back in his basement

[onyx adder]

If u want a running simulator with damage

[cosmic eagle]

@short prairie unlucky did not hit the full stack

[sour wadi]

yeah totally unlucky

[onyx adder]

Might as well uninstall tbh

[cosmic eagle]

i keep hitting x20 chaos this game is trash

[tough cove]

god golden volatiles feels great with breach

[sour wadi]

fucking gaben get OUT of my game

i hit alt

[final owl]

man corrupting these T14s looking like rngesus trying to kill me :I

[wintry lily]

slightly different vibe but same playstyle

[finite quail]

less fuckin goooo my mana is gone

[gritty epoch]

what is the droprate of pledge of hands from atziri

[finite quail]

wiki

[hoary scarab]

atleast 7

[gritty epoch]

wiki doesnt say

[finite quail]

then farm 10000 atziris and make a spreadsheet

[onyx adder]

1-2%

[split maple]

dude had 1 in 100 https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/11agg6r/small_sample_100_regular_atziri_runs/

[worldly bridge]

@ slippery jim

[split maple]

its painge

[gritty epoch]

thanks sir

[glad lotus]

hello, sorry random question guys, but why do people nowadays purposely say fine "shyt" like they misspelled it everytime? and what does it actually mean in gen alpha language?

[final owl]

maybe because they intend the "shite" pronunciation

[finite quail]

urbandictionary

[glad lotus]

another new term?

[finite quail]

fine shyt is usually in relation to the slang word shawty, or shorty, its to call someone attractive, usually a woman

its a slang word of a slang word, basically

Its not new at all, its just slang being said in different ways as times change

[odd cloud]

tell me this isn't a crazy steal for 30c

[glad lotus]

ah I see, ty ty

[finite quail]

if you make use of the fire crit multi yeah, if not, no

[odd cloud]

playing Ele Hit

[finite quail]

then yeah

[odd cloud]

there are jewels with AS + Crit Multi for 80c WITHOUT Corrupted Blood AND ignore Phys Dmg reduction.. this should be multiple divs

[final owl]

the map with 51% shocked ground and - max res got me killed. i am.. shocked :I

[drowsy eagle]

max res is not a problem if your res aren't capped

[final owl]

it was kinda a problem. got suplexed outa the map.

[woeful breach]

hey all i had a question, does bloodlines scarab affect harvest monester in any way

[grave vine]

When a skill has a "expend x" with cooldown y, cooldown reduction works here right? - never allocated cdr in my entire life on any game

[split maple]

no

[woeful breach]

okay, does it affect breach and beyond?

[split maple]

it should yea

[opaque sphinx]

[grave vine]

Axe user crafting wands

[tranquil sedge]

[stray sedge]

dang yo

[short prairie]

Esm, I’m fked.

[opaque sphinx]

been a decent league for crafting so far, already made my axe

[slate field]

comnecion error anyone

[short prairie]

80k damage reaching maps with ele hit

I mean you can argue the aoe does double that

[grave vine]

Ur axe has similar dps to my 2 hander

[opaque sphinx]

sold this bow earlier today for 18d too

[swift storm]

Yea I got D/C and cannot log back in now.

[dim gyro]

guess if u do elderslayers in mirage you just get trapped....

[tranquil sedge]

it sold with projectile pierce? wat skill likes that 😮

[slate field]

seems like washington is cooked rn

[oblique ember]

forgot i needed runegraft of treachery for my build and after swapping its only thing i need, check and its 470c

[slate field]

texas is fine

[tranquil sedge]

only 470c u got this just go farm some content rq and buy it

[oblique ember]

dont even got the currency for that too

[tranquil sedge]

so run a bit easier content and farm it 😛

[oblique ember]

yeah but my build is like not functional right now

[knotty geyser]

cant log in too yeah, getting error coded from town

[opaque sphinx]

the pierce was a w/e mod i don't think it actually added any value, was a 1200 edps bow with crit and AS regardless
think the pierce mod was just a "ou shiny" for someone

[tranquil sedge]

unless ur build is completely nonfunctional?
..oof

[split maple]

Elehit aint flicker

[oblique ember]

i think its lances relic koam build

[short prairie]

I can’t flick yet, no crit chance

[tranquil sedge]

go farm some currency with our lord and saviour, harvest

https://klipy.com/gifs/rookie-numbers-1

[short prairie]

What if I just brick my build and can’t progress further into maps

[limpid spade]

Server issues back?

[opaque sphinx]

made this earlier too but idk if will sell

[tranquil sedge]

you'll be aight

[velvet vortex]

YEP

[limpid spade]

When trying to log in

[finite quail]

man this fucking body armor is so good but I'm missing 24 fire res and I can't get any of it anywhere

[short prairie]

Maybe my pathing was wrong all along

[limpid spade]

Might just be Washington DC server, Cali is working for me now

[short prairie]

I’m just testing things out on scion but feels wrong somehow

[cosmic eagle]

@short prairie

[short prairie]

[tranquil sedge]

what is that mod from?

[stray sedge]

Are any of your other resistances overstacked? If so you could use harvest bench to swap one ele res for another

[stray sedge]

Infamous mods from Mercenary league were reintroduced to the game

[cosmic eagle]

merc mod, just kill exiles inside mirage they drop those

[tranquil sedge]

pob? have you got max res roll on flask suffix? using alira? any other overcap res you can swap around?

[fickle glen]

Does arcane cloak sync with Eldritch Battery?

[tranquil sedge]

oh damn merc mods are back 😮
that's cooool

[cosmic eagle]

my exsang gonna pop off

[tranquil sedge]

hopefully they go core then even if mirage doesn't

[finite quail]

Gonna get new boots instead

[short prairie]

[tranquil sedge]

also res tattoos exist

[opaque sphinx]

[short prairie]

Good for u, but how bout my flicker

[cosmic eagle]

you hating and doubting my miner bro

[tranquil sedge]

now slam the big boi suffix and make this $$$

[cosmic eagle]

just keep flicking, spam the tree

[opaque sphinx]

yeh im checking coe atm lol

[sour wadi]

wish me luck

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/debra-messing-grace-adler-16

[short prairie]

Tree weapons are gone

[sour wadi]

the final blob.

[tranquil sedge]

you've now been blessed by chris wilson

[opaque sphinx]

wait all conq orb suffixes for wands suck ass

[cosmic eagle]

should have just gone with rf

[tranquil sedge]

kira planning to make mirrors from crafting this league? 😄

[drowsy eagle]

should I go glamcing blow or go hard to cap block?

[oblique ember]

yea, need exactly 15% reservation for relic skill to work with some -minus reservation i have or else it doesnt work

[fickle glen]

Google says these two don’t sync, is this true?

[oblique ember]

WAIT i just realized i also need sanctum ascendacy which i havent done

its all falling apart GG

[finite quail]

attributes are stretched thin, managed to snag this for 1 div tho

[tranquil sedge]

Energy shield can only be spent for mana costs. Arcane Cloak will still spend mana, Apep's Rage will still cause mana loss.
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Eldritch_Battery

[tranquil sedge]

nice

[opaque sphinx]

dunno tbh but im having fun w/t it so far

wait they deleted foulborn ex?

[tranquil sedge]

no, its still there

[cosmic eagle]

1 quick glance and you already know that badboy came from the tree

[soft perch]

idk what to play

[opaque sphinx]

my faustus racist?

[brazen vector]

They arent on faustus atm

[oblique ember]

whats the name of the sanctum key to do the ascendancy

[short prairie]

Give me back my breach tree weapon crafting😭

[opaque sphinx]

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bugs-bunny-bunny-1

[cosmic eagle]

tons of item not in faustus, every fix they do something breaks now it's the hiveblood counter

[grizzled lily]

yea bro no worries let me know if u need help with gearing up further, remember that using those essences on a ilvl 70 or smth low wont give u much high tiers, so consider either grabbing every good ilvl 83+ from t16 maps or buy a base on the market

[worldly bridge]

ok maybe i fucking hate new breach boss, i just die 6x to it

[fickle glen]

Is there a way to work around arcane cloak mana problem without losing my buffs that reserve mana?

[opaque sphinx]

thats actually kinda decent odds of crit multi

[tranquil sedge]

if i understand your question correctly? then no, the point of arcane cloak is to gain a temporary buff based on spending lots of mana

the less unreserved mana you have, the weaker the effect will be, that's the tradeoff

[opaque sphinx]

yolo? @tranquil sedge

[tranquil sedge]

either yolo or u 50/50 aug some harvestcraft, dunno if worth or not thats u2u

[cosmic eagle]

play manaman

[fickle glen]

But I need my spell slinger :<

[opaque sphinx]

yolo it is

[cosmic eagle]

lavianga

[worldly bridge]

https://pobb.in/npuEZKIvZJix aight chat its that time of the leauge, what am i doing wrong that vrunn is clapping me

why is my ehp 27k SKULL FISSURE

[finite quail]

this is what you're doing wrong

[short prairie]

600k dmg as a slayer at 94?

💀

[thorn iron]

any death's oath aficionado? i want to ask about playing it and its variant impending doom/ storm burst decay

[oblique ember]

wait, if i need exactly 15% mana reservation of skills, could i do that with 12 from a notable and 3% on a jewel or do they calculate differently?

[worldly bridge]

yeah idk my dps is pretty bad but idk why since im following rues guide to a T

[finite quail]

you could do it with the runegraft of treachery

they do not calculate differently tho both would work fine

[oblique ember]

have tried and i am too poor for that and my builds bricked kindof

[short prairie]

Ew rue

[finite quail]

ruepoo

[sweet shell]

Anyone tested new KB Breach Swarm MTX? Any good for FPS?

[whole bluff]

Ngl, my zhp assassin with 2 labs stopped getting clapped by Vruun when I added Flesh&Stone + Arctic Armour. So in theory, your slayer is squishier than an assassin

https://tenor.com/view/milj-milk-skill-issue-spill-issue-spill-gif-25572474

[worldly bridge]

i have flesh and stone :<

[fickle glen]

Where is your armor?

[worldly bridge]

he does that little fucking spin andit somehow does more damage than any of his slams

[short prairie]

After looking at rue and bob5 DMs I blacklisted rue

[finite quail]

idk who bob5 is

[cosmic eagle]

the first elehit slayer enjoyer that is having a hard time

[worldly bridge]

not really having a hard time until now

[whole bluff]

Tbf, I feel like you gotta constantly watch Vruuns animations. Otherwise he would still be clapping me probably

[short prairie]

Korean girl in NZ who also streams poe

[opaque sphinx]

foulborn betrayed and hit freeze

[tranquil sedge]

i dont understand why you are using armor + evasion hybrid bases if you aren't getting getting an appreciable amount of armor on the build ngl

[cosmic eagle]

if you are following rue you have to understand his build guide revolves around gear that are trash and easy to make, look for another guide that has scaling on the progression

[whole bluff]

Yay, 39% chance to not do any difference

[soft perch]

guys what do i play with echoing belt

[finite quail]

anything you want

[whole bluff]

I wanna say snop nova, but idk dmg

[short prairie]

Anything spd related

[empty ivy]

best marylene

[worldly bridge]

the pob im follow is running all hybrid so thats what ive been going for

[tranquil sedge]

lemme update pob sec

[finite quail]

obviosly spectral throw with the infamous gloves projs have 50% less or more proj speed for crazy shotgunning on bosses

[soft perch]

im trying to think of something to abuse the repeat with, vls does work but id have to go like chainbreaker

[opaque sphinx]

its ok we dont need the freeze

[finite quail]

real or fake baby price

[wintry lily]

typical foulborn error.

[tranquil sedge]

show that pob

[opaque sphinx]

with 50 less ele dps

[finite quail]

okay real

[grim gulch]

Click on that trade link, the real item would have very good mod

[worldly bridge]

https://pobb.in/FDr8_pSMsk8M

[soft perch]

holy squish

[opaque sphinx]

yeh bro life on hit is BIS

[whole bluff]

Greater echo snop nova goes from avg 28% more to 35% more, and it's giga fast so you shouldn't be bothered by another repeat. But idk if DE is still actually good enough

[proud gorge]

at least theoretically the reason to run armour/evasion base is to cap suppression on rares

but honestly the main reason is just because it's easier to get sockets on day 1

don't follow day 1 guides perfectly if it's not day 1

[short prairie]

DE mentioned. Warframe when

[whole bluff]

Demon engine?

[short prairie]

Digital Extremes

[proud gorge]

right now most of the leaguestart guides floating around are built for day 1 fast progression, and then rapid gearing into day 2

[worldly bridge]

https://pobb.in/KMHJ6l6S35Zf ok i forgot sand stance and trinity

still new to config'ing pobs

[proud gorge]

particularly that ehit guide

I still wouldn't run double claw myself

[tranquil sedge]

you should also disable steelskin to see what ur really at

[compact gorge]

is there a way to filter these thing ?

[worldly bridge]

didnt think it was on by dafult because of automation, without it im at 25k

[short prairie]

Why would you filter them

[worldly bridge]

just go give it to the npc it takes like 5 seconds

[compact gorge]

i mean they may drop without me noticing ?

[tranquil sedge]

in any case we're not looking at ehp here we're just looking at max hits and even the guide u linked has some really low ass max hits ngl @worldly bridge

[supple wren]

If you use Zealot's Oath, is the regen from that separate from "energy shield recharge?" For the purposes of Wicked Ward--

[proud gorge]

personally, for this point in progression, I'd grab Iron Reflexes and Molten Shell instead of Steelskin

[compact gorge]

i want to add color, add sound to them drop

[finite quail]

successfully 6linked with morrigan

[worldly bridge]

dont they already have a sound if youre using any filter ever

[proud gorge]

then again I'm not quite sure what armour value you need for MS to be better than Steelskin

[worldly bridge]

are you just rawdogging POE without a filter?

[proud gorge]

it's probably better though?

[tranquil sedge]

i dont even know why they're using hybrid gear because they're at fuckall armor, and they're only at 20k evasion with flask up too like?? i really dont understand that pob

[cosmic eagle]

start mapping, do breach and hit mageblood on your first UNC WOMBGIFT chop chop

[compact gorge]

hm, so they made a sound ? It's too much sound there i have no idea what sound it is, I only notice it when i see it on the ground with a different name

[short prairie]

https://pobb.in/JdLu8ZGlYInP sry you aint gonna save my build

[proud gorge]

personally I think the best earlygame ehit is Tempestuous Steel + shield, since tempestuous steel gives "hits can't be evaded" and a lot of good elemental pen, though obviously you're supposed to go Paradoxica later

[supple wren]

You can get away with this until red maps if you're just doing Atlas objectives without juicing

[compact gorge]

than the usual things i see

[proud gorge]

so you do need some accuracy anyways

but not having to invest in accuracy early is nice for easing early gearing

[soft perch]

@short prairie u would cringe so hard if u saw my boots rn

[tranquil sedge]

not having a filter is very questionable even after the first few acts

[proud gorge]

and freeing up some points on the tree to grab more defenses

[queen moss]

Question, hit greater volley on coin for KF, what's the gem to replace gv?

[short prairie]

pls how

[drowsy eagle]

does custom font affect these?

[supple wren]

Nah, I did it for a few days on Standard when I came back from a long break. It wasn't a problem until red maps. You do notice the drop quantity escalation with each tier tho

[proud gorge]

load your build into PoB, then click the [S] button here, it'll show the support gems sorted by how much DPS they give (naively, you'll have to use your own judgement as to which ones are actually usable and which aren't usable)

[worldly bridge]

well then idk what im gonna do, ill check rue's updates if any and just go to bed for now. Losing my second map after getting shit setup feels really bad and took all the steam out of me

[proud gorge]

make sure your main skill is on the left for DPS, of course

[soft perch]

@short prairie absolute peak laziness https://pobb.in/-hFgX727hU6J

[proud gorge]

buy a tempestuous steel and a shield, proceed to destroy all maps up to T16s

[soft perch]

boots are insane no

[worldly bridge]

im doing "ok" its not like im struggling, but i shouldnt have to clench my cheeks against breach boss

[supple wren]

https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/175005585203396622/1480828015993684030
Anyone know? The wiki isn't really clear about it.

[proud gorge]

my EHit Slayer is super shit because I've bought barely anything, am running on like 3c rares, but its going well. But yeah, this particular ehit build is somewhat squishy early

getting over 4k life helps a lot

[short prairie]

at least you are in trade

[worldly bridge]

i have 3 stones im not even early game anymore right?

[proud gorge]

hitting 6k would be best, but that's kind of hard to reach in the direction the ehit tree tends to go

so instead just cap spell suppression and get some block

[inland vortex]

5fps weapon skin (bug). Looks cool tho

[worldly bridge]

what im probably gonna do is slowly grind out the maps i have available and be depressed because every league i hit this exact same point of progression where i cant fully juice because things make me explode and no matter what i do everyone around me just clicks random shit and is like "oh hell yeah i have inf ehp and 60 billion damage"

[proud gorge]

but like I said, the thing I'd do immediately is take Iron Reflexes and go Molten Shell

[drowsy eagle]

flicker strike with that

[inland vortex]

JESUS

[supple wren]

If you're taking Iron Reflexes, Unwavering Stance is a natural fit (if you can spare the points)

[proud gorge]

also get some chaos res, though that doesn't help against Vruun

but yeah, a pair of amethyst rings

but yeah, it's a difficult build to start

[finite quail]

god I'm so incredibly poor after all the upgrades I made, I don't even have enough JEWELLERS to fucking color my gear

[inland vortex]

Waht the fast way to infinite flicker right now with few items?

[proud gorge]

it can definitely be squishy early, especially with the typical tree pathing, because the build gets a lot of its tankiness from endurance charge stacking and capped spell suppression

[drowsy eagle]

terminus i think

[proud gorge]

and gets most of its sustain via leech

but of course getting more leech requires getting more damage

which requires more damage investment, which is investment not going towards tankiness, etc, etc, etc

[teal goblet]

Any build that would want this?

[proud gorge]

personally I switched off ehit since it does kind of feel bad early

[supple wren]

Terminus Est + something that guarantees critical hits, or capping your base crit chance

[proud gorge]

I'm playing a manaman now

but it can be good, it just really needs those defensive layers to be good

[worldly bridge]

are you considering 3 stones early game? I just got 3 earlier tonight, and ill probably finish the fourth soon

[proud gorge]

and those defensive layers kind of need investment

I'm considering earlygame anywhere between start of game and starting to buy equipment in the 50-200c range

[soft perch]

ele hit is just very melee while slams are range

so it requires more defences than people are used to to get going

[proud gorge]

when the build hits 10div I'd say it's solidly midgame

though I guess that's a bit of a weird number considering inflation this league

[worldly bridge]

after speccing reflexes

[soft perch]

the investment is just equip a shield

[worldly bridge]

im so fucked, yet another league im gonna leave for a week then come back when pohx does restart and inevitably play slams or RF until i get 40/40

[proud gorge]

imo "lategame" is the point when you get a Mageblood

[worldly bridge]

i hit this depressing point EVERY leauge unless i get an uber lucky drop that propells me into decent gear

[proud gorge]

and "endgame" is the point when Mageblood money is small change because you're speccing into expensive crafted rares and stuff

[final owl]

I'm not having the crazy smoothest league start myself. that's the way it goes sometimes i guess :I

[regal ermine]

how does ele pen work with inversion mastery? is it fine to use with?

[worldly bridge]

bad with mastery

[dreamy crane]

is a coin of restoration worth anything?

[proud gorge]

yeah, it means your 15% chance to invert is less useful, but that still means more damage on 85% of hits

[worldly bridge]

no

[final owl]

but I will have a proper go at build swap when i hit 90 and uh.. something something fingers crossed. or something

[inland vortex]

I'm too lazy dealing with 100% crit so whirling blades is only thing that came to mind

[hexed mountain]

means you pen after conversion and when you dont convert

[dreamy crane]

to my question?

[whole bluff]

Do you have endurance charges? Add Arctic Armour if bad phys mitigation. Do you have strike range so EH is less suicidal?

[proud gorge]

ele pen is almost always good, and the invert mastery is also almost always good, since it helps against very high res enemies the most, which is also where pen is the least useful

[worldly bridge]

does this answer your question lol

[regal ermine]

thankyou

[dreamy crane]

damn

[proud gorge]

but yeah, annoiting Sione's Ambition helps a lot for ehit

[dreamy crane]

thats super bad i only got one😅

[proud gorge]

since you're not melee anymore

you're just weird ranged

[whole bluff]

Idk if you're following a build guide @worldly bridge, but if you are and it's not to your liking, if you're unsure how to change things look for another guide

[proud gorge]

what's Sione's cost though

Prismatic, Azure, Black

[whole bluff]

And/or roll maps more carefully

[proud gorge]

around 130c looks like

[stoic horizon]

not bad

[proud gorge]

mostly just the prismatic cost

[drowsy eagle]

yeah that and flicker = epilepsy

[proud gorge]

and lemme check how much an Ehit replica dragonfang's flight costs

I've been told Ashes is better, eventually

[worldly bridge]

ive felt ok for a while but now i feel like ive hit a wall

[cosmic eagle]

come to SC and ill save your build

[worldly bridge]

its ruetoo's guide, its been alright, im capable of capping res and sorting out links and stuff on my own

[proud gorge]

ugh, looks like ehit Dragonfangs are like 3 div corrupted

no wait there's an uncorrupted one, also 3 div

Ashes is actually cheaper lmao

[stoic horizon]

huh how much is ashes rn

[proud gorge]

though I guess a 30 qual ashes is gonna be more expensive

[oblique ember]

can someone carry me through a trialmaster ascendancy please my builds incapable of doing content rn

[proud gorge]

any ashes is 1 div

[stoic horizon]

damn thats interesting

[proud gorge]

uncorrupted at that

so yeah, probably not a bad amulet, then annoit it with Sione's

total cost: like 1.7 div

not a cheap upgrade, but not overly expensive either

[loud geyser]

sunder + warcries is crazy

[proud gorge]

I mean, it's a slam, why not

[loud geyser]

i was doing earthshatter before it

[proud gorge]

Earthshatter is still good, Sunder is just functionally ranged

[loud geyser]

but the difference in damage and general combat fluidity is way better

[molten shore]

hey there, would anyone know how much is Foil Nimis worth right now I can't find any price point

[loud geyser]

cant wait to get my 2nd jugg ascendency node for endurance

[soft perch]

i think sunder is always a better clear skill

[surreal musk]

same as regular nimis

[soft perch]

but earthshatter better st

[worldly bridge]

are you in campaign? thats why sunder feels better

[loud geyser]

oh yeah im in act 5

[proud gorge]

yeah, Sunder has always been great, there's a reason people use it for leaguestarting

[stoic horizon]

ay someone found the new vendor recipe, lets see if market caught on

[molten shore]

damn was hoping for a little bit more, oh well

[loud geyser]

but i went from taking forever to kill things to 1 shotting them with sunder

[finite quail]

this must have taken well over 100c just to get the colors ffs

[worldly bridge]

earth shatter is just better in endgame because of coverage, also because warcry automation and uptime is much higher in endgame

[soft perch]

fracs are cheap anyway and harb uniques are 5c

[worldly bridge]

sunder misses quite a few mobs when mapping unless you have GIGA fucking aoe

[proud gorge]

honestly the biggest issue with Sunder isn't even that its eventually outscaled naturally, it's that Sunder has a weird interaction with attack speed where above a certain attack speed its animation breaks, so it has effectively a "capped" maximum attack speed

[cloud pilot]

really? shouldn't be that bad with the jewel method

[worldly bridge]

idk im not comfortable making changes to builds on my own

[loud geyser]

once i have a LOT of damage i can swap to sand stance for more aoe and benefit the dmg reduction

[stoic horizon]

ah so thats why good fractures are much cheaper this league

[loud geyser]

and im playing 2 handed so i think my aoe will be rlly high

[worldly bridge]

i cant just go throwing in items that could help, thatd be a waste of currency, and im not near smart enough to fiddle with it in pob. like where do i even begin

[proud gorge]

I mean, fair enough, but the guide should probably recommend annoiting Sione's at some point anyways, that's the best annoit for ehit

[loud geyser]

i wonder if i can stack a decent bit of armour as 2handed?

[proud gorge]

it's just a question of what you're annoiting it onto

[loud geyser]

on jugg surely i can 🤔

[stoic horizon]

armor stackers dont even use shields so maybe

[proud gorge]

since it's a decently expensive annoit, you want it on an amulet you're sure you're going to keep using

[low lava]

Yus

[mental nova]

is there a spot i can report a bug? just got into a mirage that looks like this lol

[proud gorge]

I mean, there is that one Emperor's Vigilance "armourstacker" sort of

but that's a hyperspecific build and obviously not what they meant

[worldly bridge]

its not mentioned anywhere

[proud gorge]

should be in the escape menu

[finite quail]

from 58% to 73% evade by changing out my gear, 78% with flask, and idk how much with blind lol

[surreal musk]

p sure armourstackers will use shield now with the mini transcendence essennce on shield

[loud geyser]

for replica dreamfeather they do iirc

[proud gorge]

what the heck would they want you to annoit instead? It's clearly the best option for ehit, I can't think of any better annoit you would want to use

[surreal musk]

on a 2mil armour pob that mod alone changed ele max hit from 150 to 290k

[mental nova]

where exactly? im not seeing it but im also a but dyslexic

[low lava]

How much is a decent amount. If I may ask tho

[finite quail]

83% with blind, gyaaaatttt

[proud gorge]

literally the only reason to not annoit Sione's is if you're trying to pump PoB DPS and don't care about playability

[loud geyser]

at least 500k

[proud gorge]

which is, uh, dumb

[worldly bridge]

high voltage, 100inc crit chance on shcoked enemies

[proud gorge]

okay so they're just trying to pump PoB DPS and don't care about playability

[split maple]

or if you have budget issues 😛 sione needs that fancy oil

[worldly bridge]

my crit is only like 49% idk where all his crit chance is coming from

[low lava]

Should be doable. I managed to hit 300k on my boneshatter long ago.

[proud gorge]

diamond flask and Precision aura

are the main sources

diamond flask with increased crit chance suffix, even

[worldly bridge]

its a lvl1 precision

[proud gorge]

plus base crit from assassin's mark

[tranquil sedge]

for a casual build like 20-50k would be considered 'good' lol

depending on the build and so on you could push that higher ofc and some builds might want a lot more (armorstackers, for example) but the threshold isnt that high

[proud gorge]

and assassin's mark with quality gives power charge on hit, though it's kind of inconsistent

assassin's mark will be a lot of your crit chance though yeah

[low lava]

I purely did it for fun as a endleague thing. On normal I had like 80k, which was more then enough

[split maple]

30k armor is already a very very decent defensive layer

like going significiantly above that you want dmg payoff not only defence payoff

[proud gorge]

also, don't run taming, run a Brittle Unseen Hue instead

and then run a second Unseen Hue with Scorch or Sap also

[inland vortex]

Didn't worked Flicker itself 0fps

[proud gorge]

Brittle gives even more base crit

[low lava]

Yeah. Not sure why he wants 500k.
Probably doing dream feather on a jugg or something 😆

[signal marten]

did they remove all awakened gems? i cant find any

[finite quail]

yes, now we have exceptional supports instead

[clever socket]

why is flesh and stone such a minor DPS increase? do I have something set up wrong?

[finite quail]

finished with poe for today at 5 am derp

[opal ingot]

any free thinkers think this is a good selection? focused on deep and wilds

[proud gorge]

here's where the build I'm playing gets its crit chance from, on the midgame setup

only 88% though

[split maple]

use sand stance for defence instead - flesh and stone sand stance is rly big defence, while blood stance is truly minor dps

[signal marten]

so its just a regular support gem? what makes it "exeptional"

[low lava]

Distance to enemy in config maybe ?

[clever socket]

is that so? I had no idea

[icy zinc]

😎

[finite quail]

they are more transformative, basically their effects are better or chance when compared to regular counterparts, and there's a ton more new exceptional supports. you can look at the list of the new ones in poedb

[cerulean breach]

is there a way to disable dot cap in pob so you can see how far over you are?

[split maple]

usually folks change config to uber boss...

[proud gorge]

"Exceptional" supports have a maximum level of 3, are drop only from certain rare endgame encounters, can't be obtained in most sources of gems, and have other specific interactions

[karmic gust]

yes switch to uber or deli or both and calculate it yourself

[inland vortex]

:(

[surreal musk]

do 'deal 90% less dmg' in config and and then multi ur dmg by 10

[cerulean breach]

I'd rather do 90% less damage custom mod and multiply by 10

[proud gorge]

but for the most part Exceptional support gems are just a tier of support gems that come in at the endgame

[compact gorge]

my maven progress is 16/10, why doesn't she drop the invitation for me ?

[karmic gust]

that is literally same thing but more work

[drowsy eagle]

refund

[cerulean breach]

but I was hoping there's something automatic

[finite quail]

god this feels so FUCKING good to play

[karmic gust]

but nah you cant disable it

[opal ingot]

talk to kirac. thats how you do the invitations now

[cerulean breach]

multiplying by 10 is easier than whatever uber is

[karmic gust]

its just / 0.3

[proud gorge]

uber is 70% less

[clever socket]

15m so should be good

Man I can't even use flesh and stone (sand) for defense because blood and sand (blood) is actually huge damage

I wanted to use both but

[cerulean breach]

...which is harder than multiplying by 10, my point

[proud gorge]

so 30% damage yeah

but yeah, input enemy config to 90% less damage

[inland vortex]

real question is wtf is that spinning hand

[clever socket]

what skill?

[cerulean breach]

hmm seems I'm on 90m dot dps

[low lava]

Yeah. Sadly can't use both stances. What is your skill ?

[cerulean breach]

time to drop ele overload I guess

[finite quail]

real question why are you so zoomed in

[cerulean breach]

https://pobb.in/iypPYXzdLWV9

[inland vortex]

Cuz how I would be able too see wtf is this.
(feeding frenzy tho, I guess)

[proud gorge]

actually, hmm, there doesn't seem to be a setting in config to adjust the uber DR

[cerulean breach]

(configured with 90% less dmg, but the hit portion is fake it's not 150m)

[finite quail]

I mean your screen is cut off at the edges

[worldly bridge]

idk i guess im just skill issue then, im gonna go to bed

[still apex]

hi someone know how to solve this ?

[worldly bridge]

maybe ill be able to actually play the game one day

[proud gorge]

okay instead I suggest setting it to regular pinnacle, then setting it to 100% Delirious, this gives 80% Damage Reduction so you can just multiply the number by 5

[cerulean breach]

disable "Stevie Wonder mode" in config

[inland vortex]

10mb limit discord moment. Less compression

[cerulean breach]

how is that easier than just multiplying by 10?

[signal marten]

wait can i link awakened empower and eclipse? to gain even MORE levels on my skills?

[stable pumice]

Mann anyone knows how high can volatile vaal orb hit?

[proud gorge]

the regular element-specific DR settings don't work like uber boss reduction

since they can be penetrated and overwhelmed and stuff

[finite quail]

1.25x

[noble sleet]

are y'all doing ele hit?

[loud geyser]

wait she's still here 😯 moved to act 6 thats dope

[finite quail]

still static strike warden

[proud gorge]

ah, I guess that works lmao

[clever socket]

Cyclone of Tumult

[fossil mural]

Does anyone have a pob for bsb bannerman?

[noble sleet]

you got clips?

[clever socket]

I'm trying to decide between ditching Precision for Flesh and Stone, I thought it'd be a big DPS increase but nope :o

[stable pumice]

Soo if i got 50% max i can is 62?

[finite quail]

why skull emoji if I already cleared all pinnacles except maven :(

[proud gorge]

I was, but I've decided to switch over to manaman Hiero. I'm sure ele hit is good, but its a build that needs some investment to scale into being tanky, and I prefer builds that start tanky and then need investment to scale into clear speed or something

[stable pumice]

Ya know ya all at least can see your damage xD

[finite quail]

please use a calculator to find out how much 50*1.25 is

[proud gorge]

and manaman hiero definitely gets to be tanky early

[split maple]

slap precision on arrogance and take flesh and stone sand stance for defences

[clever socket]

but my blood and sand is biiiig deeps! :O

[fossil mural]

Are you sure its 1.25?

[stable pumice]

62.5...

[finite quail]

Wouldn't it make sense for it to be around that amount?

[proud gorge]

but yeah, at some point I'll have to play Dissolution again, I always hated that playstyle before but I've been told Blood Barrier entirely solves most of the issues with the build

and I'm willing to give it a try to be proven wrong (or proven right that its still shit)

[loud geyser]

bleed slam is good i think?

[opal ingot]

do i have to do all of these

[finite quail]

forget I said anything mb, I havent slept in like 30 hours

[loud geyser]

or would i have to go slayer to make that effective

[finite quail]

yes except elderslayers since you already did it

[proud gorge]

my Dissolution build is probably going to be Flame Golem Elementalist

[opal ingot]

ok ty

[finite quail]

btw wiki says its around 1.22x max, had to double check

[opal ingot]

damn though my eagon is slacking off where are the threads

[proud gorge]

since apparently there's a build there with Necromantic Aegis Rathpith Flame Golems

though I'm not entirely sure why that build runs Dissolution

[stable pumice]

If anyone wants they can try generals cry holly hammers, and tell me if gou figure out how to scale dmg xD more

[stable pumice]

So 61% is max i could get

[finite quail]

Yep

[proud gorge]

actually lemme check why the heck that build is running Dissolution

[stable pumice]

Hmm i think the 60% wouuuld be worth the risk

[merry ermine]

did the skin pieces frm the twitch rewards expire?? today I only saw the flask and djinn

like the body pieces like boots, chestplate etc

[finite quail]

those are the pieces from twitch, the armor is from the league challenges

[merry ermine]

I thought it was a full skin

[merry ermine]

ohhh I see, thanks!

[finite quail]

np

[stable pumice]

You think poe is working with charity?

[finite quail]

press H ingame to see ur current challenges completed

[opal ingot]

MORRIGAN AND CRAICIC ON THE SAME MAP

[merry ermine]

wouldnt be the first time lmfao??? In case you dont know, if u reached lvl 80 or smth in poe2, you would'e gotten a full skin a while back ago

[merry ermine]

ok tyvm

[stable pumice]

I been lvl 80+ all the leagues there so far xD

[agile grail]

how do i unlock the 6th map slot. it says to do 10 boss maven invite which i have done twice and still not unlocked.

[proud gorge]

ah, apparently Rathpith + Necromantic Aegis has a weird interaction where it uses the player's life for scaling but gives the minions the damage

wack

[split maple]

do nightmare map

[soft perch]

do a t17

[karmic gust]

i mean it is a very specific intentional wording on the shield

[proud gorge]

that would explain why this build is running Dissolution but also Rathpith Aegis

[loud geyser]

worth taking both sides of this node or just 1 for mastery?

[karmic gust]

because otherwrise it would be broken if it used th actual minion life

[stable pumice]

Anyways if i use red blade banner shield and hit the volatile vaal orb.. i could get... 61% more cd on warcries .

[split maple]

99% of cases you only take one branch there

[loud geyser]

ty

[stable pumice]

HMMM

[proud gorge]

yeah, its just confusing since you'd expect Necromantic Aegis to use minion stats given that its equipped to the minion

but yeah, seems nice in this build

[split maple]

eh "All bonuses from an Equipped Shield apply to your Minions instead of you" i wouldnt read that as equiped to minion

exactly due to cases like that

[shrewd fiber]

how does the horned scarab of awakening work now? does it just add random bosses?

[karmic gust]

even if it was equipped to minion it says player and that would always only mean 1 thing

[icy zinc]

yes sir

[shrewd fiber]

can the maven witness them all?

[proud gorge]

I do find it funny that this is yet another example of using Rathpith without ever sacrificing the life yourself

[shrewd fiber]

are they next to the actual map boss or spread everywhere

[proud gorge]

the classic Rathpith double reacharound

[icy zinc]

rathpith life sacrifice is kinda whatever rly

[fossil mural]

1.22 is a very specific value chosen for specific reasons. Its not just "1.25" looks nicer

[icy zinc]

you use multistrike or spell echo so its double-triple efficient

[proud gorge]

weird that the golems also don't sacrifice any life

like, I understand the scaling specifying player, so it applies to player

[dim gyro]

is there anyway to move the maps to the sub tabs in t16 maps? without everything being mixed?

[proud gorge]

but the part about sacrificing life says "when you use or trigger a spell"

[icy zinc]

at least single golem is meta this league cus companionship support gem

[proud gorge]

well, I guess it specifically says "when you use or trigger a spell skill"

are the golem spells not spell skills?

[icy zinc]

no...

[proud gorge]

is it? Wack, I was planning to go that other support to flood the field with golems

[icy zinc]

i mean necromantic aegis for rathpith globe and minions been around for a while, no?

[proud gorge]

oh wait you mean for a support golem

[icy zinc]

yeah

[proud gorge]

it has yeah, I'm just trying to figure out exactly how it works and why it somehow gives you all the upside with no downsides to either you or the golem, but yeah it seems solid

just gotta figure out what support to drop for the "38% more minions" support

or I guess I could use an imbue, eventually?

[icy zinc]

yeah dunno what you'd imbue on golem but true

[proud gorge]

that does remind me though, I gotta check all the rest of the exceptionals now that they're known

old build was these supports, so, uh...

I guess drop critical damage for extra golems?

[opal ingot]

no svalinn 🥹

[stoic horizon]

greater spell echo exists so nothing changed ngl

[proud gorge]

yeah

[opal ingot]

why didn't i win the 1% this game is so bs

[proud gorge]

if anything Greater Spell Echo is better, since it repeats twice

[meager ridge]

how do we get the maze of the minotaur map?

[proud gorge]

generic Shaper Guardian map

[icy zinc]

do top right quadrant

[meager ridge]

there are none on trade

[proud gorge]

search for Shaper Guardian Map

[icy zinc]

what other dude said its shaper guardian map now

[meager ridge]

oh

[icy zinc]

1 for 4

[blissful cloak]

Huh why did my game freeze and then PC screen turn balck

[icy zinc]

definitely said about none on trade about maze of the minotaur but whatevs

[loud geyser]

do bleed builds want bleeds to be inflicted faster or just have more bleed damage primarily

[opal ingot]

man thank fuck dying to starfall crater or syndicate safehouse doesn't fail the encounter

[loud geyser]

im seeing a lot of "bleed is inflicted" faster nodes

[icy zinc]

faster bleed is definitely better on clear, i would advertise split arrow sadism but realistically

[stable pumice]

Bcs your pc poopoo

[loud geyser]

so its making me think speed of bleed is somewhat good 🤔

[loud geyser]

on a slam setup tho

[split maple]

faster bleed inflicts dmg = same dmg per bleed but in shorter duration = more dps

[icy zinc]

faster bleed and faster burn is primary dps while poison its no change

[split maple]

just make sure to also grab some longer duration of bleed at some point, since if you get enough speed it doesnt feel like dot anymore due to expiring too fast

[blissful cloak]

I was just playing flicker strike and got an echo shrine

[opal ingot]

i lost the 50/50

[south lotus]

F

[proud gorge]

alright so according to PoB, Congregation Support is actually just worse than Critical Damage Support, because the extra 6 flame golems are worth less than the amount of damage Critical Damage support gives

but on the other hand, who can say no to 24 Flame Golems

[clever socket]

Look at my build guide, why does he get HUGE dps out of Flesh and Stone but I don't? I made sure the enemy distance configuration was set correctly

[icy zinc]

the betrayal fracturing machine

[split maple]

show links to both pobs

[opal ingot]

grant me strength

[tawdry olive]

Stance in config tab?

[clever socket]

Blood! I'm sure its something even stupider, I haven't PoBed in a looong time https://pobb.in/FXa7GVstmvv2 <-- Build guide

[drowsy eagle]

I love pob item search

[clever socket]

https://pobb.in/Y5ITQXkfqeHd <-- mine

[split maple]

eh pob.cool doenst have new version of pob yet, cnat open that -.-

[sly basalt]

Hello gents, it happened for me to drop a HH, what build shall I build around it? I never had one so I have no idea

[clever socket]

noooo

[south lotus]

any attack based skill is fine

[split maple]

fuck is that 40c megalo unethical

[drowsy eagle]

yoink

[south lotus]

even some caster builds can use it

[steel light]

make a normal league and farm 40c now

[split maple]

you want something that has phys dmg or converts from phys - since a lot of rare monster mods give phys as extra. so stuff like phys bows, phys spells etc

[frigid wedge]

is vaal temptation still 25c or did someone make a video

[sly basalt]

oh, I see

[split maple]

basically you can read hh as "i will give you shitload of phys as extra and solve your defences once you kill 3 rare mobs"

[opal ingot]

im doing putrid cloister anyone wanna join

[proud gorge]

its because you already have Flesh and Stone equipped, in your boots slot, so the only damage you're gaining is a tiny bit of extra damage from... having more mana reserved or something

[split maple]

non-chaos versions of kboc are hella good with hh too 😄

[clever socket]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[proud gorge]

the actual Flesh and Stone in your boots slot is showing correct damage when enabled/disabled

[clever socket]

let's GOOOOOO

[frigid wedge]

i think im actually gonna play an es char for once, scary

[proud gorge]

careful, they're addictive

[slender marsh]

anyone have Aul up so i can get the bloodline ill pay

[frigid wedge]

nah i like influence gear too much for that

[south lotus]

Bro gonna be chasing the ES dragon for the rest of poe

[stable pumice]

What type

[frigid wedge]

only reason im doing es is perma vaal discipline

[sly basalt]

that seems handy! thank you! i was playing RF, but it doesn't seem that worth on it

[split maple]

yeah rf doesnt benefit much from hh if at all

[bold kelp]

So crop rotation is like unusable without awakened scarabs right

[frigid wedge]

i gotta sustain like 8k phys dot and id rather just grab recharge suffixes

[proud gorge]

the real dragon I'm chasing is the sheer power I felt playing Aegis Aurora ES/Armour Incinerate back in the day, when Venting was a free helmet upgrade that also had great clear

[south lotus]

RF is recommended to new players generally. You new?

[stable pumice]

All i can say atleast you all can see your dmg haha

[proud gorge]

and I was just facetanking ubers

[split maple]

crop rota beats corny without woker in terms of juice per map at average, only run corny if sacred blossoms are good value

[bold kelp]

wait seriously?

[sly basalt]

I'm not super new, but I never did 'wow content', I discovered how to make currency this league and had this lucky drop, so yeah

[odd fox]

Ayo madliv

[frigid wedge]

literally just gonna play es like im using master surgeon except using a vaal skill

[proud gorge]

honestly from what I hear that build still exists, but on Energy Blade with Foulborn Ghostwrithe

I dunno if its Aegis Aurora though

[cosmic raptor]

should i use this or what?

[proud gorge]

or just doing a weird multileech setup

[south lotus]

Welcome to big boy content amd enjoy the HH

[sly basalt]

:mlem:

[frigid wedge]

which build?

[south lotus]

Crop cant get rancour sadge

[proud gorge]

it occurs to me that I have to say Energy Blade instead of EB since Eldritch Battery also exists

[split maple]

fair point yea

[south lotus]

dunno if thats intended or oversight

[proud gorge]

the facetank Incinerate build, its just that now it probably runs Energy Blade Spellblade

[sly basalt]

Haha, yeah! I knew this is the right place to come and ask for recommandations for a build, I will look some content creators with bows I guess

[bold kelp]

How does crop rotation interact with mirages? Is the mirage a seperate one?

[proud gorge]

I imagine you could probably run Aegis Aurora on that build

[bold kelp]

rancours are also only 6c ea

[proud gorge]

but that would make the build a bit weird

[frigid wedge]

ah right, fair, yeah no im addicted to pathfinder, hence why im playing es build like master surg

[proud gorge]

since it'd be difficult to stack life and also armour and also block and also spell block and also ES somehow (though I guess Foulborn Ghostwrithe mostly solves that)

but you're also spending your chest slot on a Foulborn Ghostwrithe

[south lotus]

as much as ppl gonna get mad at me for saying this, check out fubgun, hes playing bows iirc and you got his favorite item

[proud gorge]

making stacking armour and life harder

[near void]

If I link convocation with automation, all my minions get tp'd to me every 3s?

[split maple]

just checking rancour recipes, i kinda rly wish we had that last league

[south lotus]

rest of his items should be fairly easy to get or craft or blast and buy

[proud gorge]

and also getting some leech alongside all those things

[frigid wedge]

isnt best way to stack es just str stack now tho

[proud gorge]

should work yeah

[dense rock]

yap. perfect for dom blow/herald of purity bullshit

[proud gorge]

eh, Strength Stack ES is alright, but requires you to run Doon

[frigid wedge]

shapers touch

[bold kelp]

hmm to crop rotate or to not crop rotate

[near void]

Also good for Absolution?

[proud gorge]

doon plus shaper's touch yeah

[split maple]

or lifestack lite with fbl ghostwrithe, like getting 10k life is pretty reasonable

[dense rock]

soooo fucking much xp from campaign currently... Was lvl76 by the time i completed all side quests and killed act10 kitava 😄

[proud gorge]

they did actually deliberately pre-nerf the strength to ES scaling items also

for that exact reason

[teal eagle]

what scarabs should i use for breach?

[frigid wedge]

its fine the es is just so u sustain 100% uptime phys dots

easier than life based

[dense rock]

ye. I use automation convocation to keep my guardian minions on top of me. Also have herald of purity, dom blow and 2 holy relics so its pretty nice for them to automatically keep up to my shield charge speed

[sly basalt]

thanks, i got 10 d, so should be enough for a bow

[proud gorge]

but yeah, from what I understand the easiest and cheapest way to run EB is just Foulborn Ghostwrithe

[south lotus]

Crop you get more juice overall,but u miss out on rancour. No crop is less juice but rancour

[bold kelp]

How much rancour do you even get normally?

[frigid wedge]

mm, cool, so, neither of those thanks

[south lotus]

Rng depends on if the crop has that new mob on it

[proud gorge]

and honestly I'd probably prefer that, since one of my biggest issues with regular Energy Blade is how the moment you put the build together you cut your ES almost in half, meaning you start out very squishy

[south lotus]

i got like 97 rancours

all from yesterday

[proud gorge]

I mean, I'm not recommending it to you, I'm just talking about the build, as it relates to the old Incinerate Aegis build

[frigid wedge]

kk

[bold kelp]

around how many maps was that? o.o

[ocean folio]

1-2 every couple mirage harvests in my experience

[proud gorge]

it's the kind of build I prefer though, tanky, and scales damage from tankiness

[sly basalt]

ah so lighting arrow deadeye, thats what he plays

[bold kelp]

because crop rotation is also faster to run than non crop rotation.

[south lotus]

like a few hundred

you gotta get the new mobs on the crops you can hit or not all rng

[frigid wedge]

esm what are ur thoughts on crashing game like we used to in settlers

[daring gulch]

Hey guys so i cant have more then 1 hive in a map?

[south lotus]

i guess get enough rancour then go back to crop

[proud gorge]

nope, just one

[daring gulch]

as i have 100% breach to spawn in map + 1 additional hive

[proud gorge]

though you can make your one hive bigger and also stronger

[daring gulch]

ok so for hives u remove % chance for breach and use the hive scarab?

[split maple]

color me interested

[proud gorge]

could do yeah

[opal ingot]

neat random fractured veiled i found then slammed a few contempts and got the suffix

[proud gorge]

I'm not quite sure what the hive farming meta is

[south lotus]

@bold kelp also fruiting astrolabe is insane with harvest

[proud gorge]

but yeah, you can only get one hive per map, unlike unstable breaches

[rotund nacelle]

is crop rotation worth it now?

[daring gulch]

im just saying if 1c scarab gives u the hive

u dont need % chance for breach whats the point.

[bold kelp]

Im assuming it puts another harvest in?

[proud gorge]

the opportunity cost is mostly on the other scarabs you might want to run instead

[south lotus]

if you want no rsncour yes

[proud gorge]

since that's -1 scarab slot

[south lotus]

you get harvesr related map mods

[bold kelp]

But thats kind of whatever no? Because if you're just rushing the harvest and leaving, having another harvest doesnt affect much. The scarabs are cheap

It adds map mods? And not just the extra harvest?

[proud gorge]

and often the best Breach nodes on the atlas passive tree require you to pick up breach chance passives anyways

just to reach them

[south lotus]

its like 3-4d for 1 fruiting

[daring gulch]

it says ur hives are turn to fortress but there is one that gives u hive

[proud gorge]

well, that's for any mechanic on the atlas tree

[frigid wedge]

enough vls projectiles to power the large hadron collider

[surreal musk]

https://gyazo.com/32725f69f403acf7b54dabae5173caad how is this still not fixed happening since day 1 very regularily 😩

[cosmic eagle]

hive farming meta is using the marshal scarab that forces hive to be a fortress instead, fortress gives x4 blood than hive

[split maple]

now vls is something i didnt hear in a while

[cosmic eagle]

and loot ofc

[frigid wedge]

we can spam it again, im too lazt to deal with vengeful cry shit tho so im just gonna double up on soul catchers

[proud gorge]

like, usually you pick up all the percent chance for mechanic to appear in map passives on the atlas tree because a) you path through those to get to your notables anyways, and b) there's easily enough atlas passive points to get every single passive for a specific league mechanic on tree, so atlas passive points are "cheap" when it comes to investing into a mechanic. In fact, they're so cheap they may as well be free.

[icy zinc]

damn yo

[daring gulch]

i meant smth else u dont need 50% of the notes of breaches cuz of that hive scarab and the other that turn it to fortress

[proud gorge]

what else would you spend those atlas passives on anyways

there's barely anything else that actually affects breach farming

[shut lava]

how do i annoint an amulet? cant remember anymore

[cosmic raptor]

is mirage leg good

[daring gulch]

as im running ore too i need more 20 points + above 138 so ye

[cosmic eagle]

cassia

[icy zinc]

scarabs on tree is good for excess points, extra maps for 8 corrupt mods

[dense rock]

throw cassias piss bottles at it

[daring gulch]

i need them also quant increase the ore too

[icy zinc]

all viable points

[proud gorge]

so usually atlas passive trees are 2-3 different but synergistic mechanics, plus some miscelaneous stuff like scarabs and explicit effect and such

[shut lava]

thx

[fossil mural]

Scarab slot is more valuable

[proud gorge]

you can generally fully invest into two mechanics plus scarabs/explicit effect with points left over

[daring gulch]

oh also i dont have enoguh poitns for exarch or eater

so i rly need those points.

[proud gorge]

ah, well if you're fine giving up those points for the scarab, then go for it

[icy zinc]

divine selling like hotcakes for 170 chaos orbs :o

[split maple]

wait what was added that enables that? i am super behind on catching up to mirage stuff

[proud gorge]

just noting that usually its best to hit 100% on atlas tree and not use the scarab

but obviously "usually" doesn't mean "always"

[daring gulch]

tho im running destructive play now as i need complation im only 123 or smth

[rotund nacelle]

it seems like it just reduces the amount of juice i get

[proud gorge]

(its still almost always correct though)

since one scarab slot is almost always worth more than like 20 atlas passive points

[fossil mural]

Crop rota or rancour

[rotund nacelle]

there's no 50% chance to not wilt scarab anymore

[fossil mural]

This is especially true for juicing hive fort

[daring gulch]

Dose anyone knows if that scarab diff/reward dep on how much waves works in fortresses?

[south lotus]

of course because crop spits out way more juice

[daring gulch]

or only above hives.

[rotund nacelle]

i'm pretty sure it spits out way less juice

[split maple]

Okay there is someone fucking crazy working on gems at ggg and i am all for it

[south lotus]

Crop is better than rancour farm

[fossil mural]

It says on the scarab. Just hive is the small one, hive fort is the big one. If it says hive fort it doesnt work for hives

[south lotus]

if you want no rancor do crop, if not do no crop

[fossil mural]

Skill issue

[opal ingot]

i need 6 scarab slots

[cosmic raptor]

there's no cap on hiveblood now?

[rotund nacelle]

i'm pretty sure simply not taking the keystone will give you more juice

[south lotus]

Crop rotation is way superior to regular harvest, so much so reg harvest needs corn to keep up

[frigid wedge]

so yeah imma go perma vaal disc and spam the shit outta vls

[split maple]

I love how ssf dudes run crop rota since like settlers while tradies still cannot realize corny is less juice

[south lotus]

you are wrong

[proud gorge]

I accidentally left a small block of cheese in a tin with some butter shortbread cookies, and I seem to have invented Cheese-Flavoured Butter Cookies, which are honestly pretty tasty

[bold kelp]

what scarabs do you even run with crop rotation now. You're limited to 1 risk.

[south lotus]

Crazy how people dont see crop is miles better

[proud gorge]

the sharp cheese adds a nice nutty richness to the butter cookies

[south lotus]

magic mobs, doubling

[daring gulch]

u mean it dosent work on fortress only on the normal hive? i see it says this:
Ailith's skills in Area instead enrage the Hive, increasing the Difficulty
and Reward of subsequent waves

[split maple]

But but you need to spec atlas correctly and then click in correct order

[fossil mural]

Just more assziri fragments probably

[charred hornet]

Crop rotation have the highest high and the lowest low....if you dont stay for long time crop rotation is bait

[sleek ocean]

Wont you stack that up a ton?

[rotund nacelle]

i'm pretty sure crop rotation relied massively on the scarab to not wilt for its high rolls

[bold kelp]

thats still only 3 slots right? Risk, doubling, magic mobs?

[frigid wedge]

doubling, awakening, mortal/sacrifice fragments

[split maple]

You need like 10 maps to beat corny on avg

[bold kelp]

Theres no more awakening scarab

[south lotus]

you hit good high decently well enough to edge out reg crop

[split maple]

And yea woke rota was way way good, but even non woke rota beats corny for juice. Only run corny for blossoms/rancours

[fossil mural]

Should work on small hives then, but its a waste imho

[south lotus]

then doubling is dirt cheap and the other harvest scarab

[bold kelp]

2x magic pack size, risk, doubling, and then run force harvest scarab? So you don't have to click points on tree?

[split maple]

Or atziri fragies instead lineages

[frigid wedge]

this is why im going 100% uptime on uninterrupted recharge

[daring gulch]

im not doing the small once

[bold kelp]

Atziri frag is still 5 quant right?

[south lotus]

u can run force to save points

[bold kelp]

Are there even any other scarabs that affect harvest?

Force to save points seems fine

[south lotus]

not really just get as much pack size as possible

[split maple]

some folks like hordes for more altars

[bold kelp]

Im not planning to click altars, just rush the harvest and boss

[cosmic raptor]

kekw

[bold kelp]

altars feels like a waste of time when your investment is low

[daring gulch]

i have one T3 map i dropped from sindicate when i execute

[ebon hatch]

how does memory strand work in two words?

[cosmic raptor]

xd xd

[daring gulch]

@fossil mural it works in hive kekw

i mean in fortress all i get is boss face Enrage the Hiveborn

in the fortress i cant paste image i think https://imgur.com/a/tOh5Cpw @fossil mural

[cosmic eagle]

the proper way of farming hive fortress is to just run risk and marshal, farm blood and gamba anything else is a massive waste of time and cut on profit

fortress already has a decent ground loot, juicing it is just making your map be longer if anything else

[nimble cedar]

what orb used to "increased physical modifier, item cant use blue socket"

[daring gulch]

HOLY i clicked only 10 of them its so hard 😄 my build cant sistain that 😄

and have more bilions of those 😄

[frigid wedge]

tempering orb

[daring gulch]

fkk i diead 😄 it actualy makes the wave that explodes much harder

[nimble cedar]

thank you

[daring gulch]

when u complate it and die from the wave? do u get rewards or no u have to click to go out of the portal?

[noble sleet]

https://youtu.be/NOKWPfKAgC4?si=Yz66H7rZwQqaN7TN any of y'all watch snoo?

[bold kelp]

@split maple Do you know if the blocking on crop rotation has changed with awakened scarab removal? Or is it still block the colour you want, and then the notables of the others

[cosmic eagle]

you get rewards depending which wave you died but i think no hiveblood

[split maple]

well that was already used for non-woker - for woker folks used take all nodes except the desired color notable

[daring gulch]

Guys can u refund atals points with gold?

[opal ingot]

why the fuyck do i have to keep swapping hideouts whenever someone buys

[surreal musk]

snoobait

[nimble cedar]

is there a way to make leech instant without leech masteries?

[stable pumice]

Bcs they aint in your hideout

[gritty epoch]

I need to reroll my hierophant
What is the difference between kf totems and shock nova archmage in terms of DPS/clear/tankiness on a relatively low budget

[noble sleet]

my exact question lol.

[nimble cedar]

kf totems bad?

[fossil mural]

This is hive fortress. Hive is an in-map encounter with few waves.

[gritty epoch]

I just prefer more DPS than tankiness

Not sure if which one is better at a budget

[fossil mural]

Well its definitely not manaman

[gritty epoch]

Prove it pls

[molten meteor]

with dominating blow skill if i kill a rare monster i get a sentinel with its mods, if i then kill another one does it overwrite the first or it stays the same until it dies?
also is there any way to increase the max number of rares and magic?

[cosmic eagle]

manaman shock nova can be tanky, but i heard kf totems can work with absolutely fuckall gears

[gritty epoch]

My feeling is trans shock nova is absolute op but idk

[nimble cedar]

no, i was asking