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[opaque sphinx]

wha dis

[karmic gust]

ah if you want to keep the claw sure

[soft perch]

eventually hes farming valdo tho, and pathfinder is an awful valdo farmer

[crisp obsidian]

Yeye

[dim sonnet]

i also no hitted him first try

[ionic folio]

How much chaos for this 1 mod

[gritty garnet]

woah the fragments go in the square hole in the old system

[spice pecan]

i wholeheartedly agree with this, AND the map nodes you have to actually click on the atlas itself are very small and basically impossible to find at a glance

[karmic gust]

i havent said anything about switching to patfinder

[gritty garnet]

people can easily mess it up

[karmic gust]

just the setup being bad

[proud gorge]

also, because people keep getting it confused, the grey shrines like Shocking, Freezing, and Skeleton also have some shrine effect attached to them on the belt, it's not its own separate mod that can roll

[dim sonnet]

that one is 120c

[crisp obsidian]

Cause it stacks with reaver, the double recovery ye? So unlimited es leech

[soft perch]

the setup is fine tho, it has big aoe from dagger prolif

[spice pecan]

i really don't want to have to type a map name into the search bar every time I want to run a map

[formal ridge]

WHICH way is underground sea map? i cant deal with freeze anymore

[karmic gust]

its worse than going hybrid

[soft perch]

u can argue pathfinder with flasks ends up being more well rounded

[ionic folio]

5 flask is better. Fubgun inflated it so much for 1 mod

[crisp obsidian]

Pf tech is amulet+flask

[soft perch]

but u have to actually be pathfinder

[opaque sphinx]

rip flasks
throwback to PF being the OG cheap valdo farmer

[lucid gale]

Valid opinion. Gonna be interesting to see what is teething problems and what might needs some love.
Post feedback in public venues I guess, preferably in a form that's not just "revert plz".

[proud gorge]

I mean, the maps can "auto-socket" themselves in the correct spot if you right click them from your inventory, I think the confusion is just that the atlas allows you to shift-click a map into the wrong spot, whereas what it could do instead is just automatically shift to the correct slot when you shift click a fragment

[dim sonnet]

ruetoo is using it thats why its expensive

[opaque sphinx]

revert uniq map pls

[dim sonnet]

5flask mageblood is a meme

[cerulean breach]

this doesn't work if you haven't 'discovered' that part of the atlas yet

[crisp obsidian]

Problem is you need to find them on the atlas vs just opening in old system

[lucid gale]

Some pain points can be from lack awareness of the UI shortcuts, some can be from things that could be improvised, some might be tutorialised better.

[dim sonnet]

i care more about darkness enthrone 120% that shit will be insane

[opaque sphinx]

couldn't resist, but yeah honestly it'd be cool if unique maps were just unlocked when you dropped them, finding the map itself should be the key

[lucid gale]

Particular pain points tend to be more actionable.

[proud gorge]

ah, I suppose yeah. My point is just that I think some of the confusion could be resolved by just not letting you socket a map or fragment into an "incorrect" slot

[ionic folio]

New corrupt like poe2?

[lucid gale]

Bingo card it 😉

[dim sonnet]

yea

[spice pecan]

im sorry what, simulacrum/catarina/etc are on the atlas now?

[proud gorge]

since seems like a lot of the confusion comes from stuff like people being allowed to put a Blighted map into the "wrong" map slot instead of it automatically going there

[proud gorge]

everything you access via the map device is on the atlas now yeah

[dim sonnet]

the issue is that they are hidden until you do more maps

[spice pecan]

and yeah i have a wakawaka map and can't run it, not that i ever want to run that map ever again but still

[crisp obsidian]

The idea is nice, implementation needs to be worked on

[karmic gust]

man why is twitch auto pausing now when i am not watching it, thats lame

[spice pecan]

it's kind of weird that it's just a literal brick in my inventory/map tab that is unusable

[sonic vault]

Is Rational Doctrine going to cost unlimited money this league?

[dim sonnet]

like i was trying to do the eater quest but i was in the wrong corner 3 times

[proud gorge]

but yeah, would probably make sense for all the "off-map" zones to just automatically let you socket them if you try to shift click them

[severe mountain]

Has GGG said anything about the league mechanic not giving you the reward you select?

[dim sonnet]

i went to shaper corner, maven and zana

[proud gorge]

like, if you have a blighted map in your inventory and you try to put it into the atlas, it automatically "unlocks" just the blighted map node and nothing around it

[crisp obsidian]

Just make some script that does something in the twitch tab every X seconds ez

[proud gorge]

and same with all the other "off map" things

[karmic gust]

oh maybe theres some extension for it already even

[proud gorge]

unique maps, fragment maps, etc

[karmic gust]

not used to browsers that actually support extensions :d

[crisp obsidian]

Oo which browser you usin now

[karmic gust]

brave

[proud gorge]

since it makes some sense for the map maps to need to be unlocked through discovering them, but the other map-likes not being usable until discovered is just a bit weird

[karmic gust]

tried firefox for a bit but firefox is way too scuffed

even more than qutebrowser smh

[proud gorge]

Firefox is good, but you do very much need to get into its guts and fiddle around a bit

[ionic folio]

They borrowed poe2 system.

[karmic gust]

so have to be on chromium based browser

[spice pecan]

just realized i've been using firefox for almost 20 years

[crisp obsidian]

Ahh, I was looking to trying it but saw some AI bullcrap from em so went mullvad instead

[proud gorge]

I appreciate that they let you get into its guts and fiddle around

[karmic gust]

nah its just scuffed on some sites that i need it to not be scuffed on

like azure and ms teams

[proud gorge]

that's the nice thing about Firefox, as annoying as the whole "AI" debacle is, you very much can just turn anything off, since its guts are all visible to the user

[opaque sphinx]

AHHHHHHHHHHHH I JUST SAW THIS, THEY GAVE BACK CRAFTING
LEAGUE IS SAVED I TAKE BACK ALL COMPLAINTS

[spice pecan]

chrome/anything chrome based runs like it's straight forcing your pc into being a bitcoin miner

[crisp obsidian]

If it's default off it's fine

[final owl]

firefox is great but stuff like google going out of their way to make things like youtube run terribly on it is kinda annoying..

[cosmic cobalt]

guys wasnt filterblade has option to choose like league-SC/HC and standard SC/HC?
does the new neversink SC just fetch from league or standard?

[proud gorge]

I will say, the only issues I ever had with Youtube on Firefox is if I've been deliberately avoiding updating Firefox for like a couple weeks or something

[karmic gust]

yea i was considering that one as well but its based on firefox so same issues

[steep sphinx]

why does nobody own a forged frostbearer man :<

[karmic gust]

cant rly use it

[spice pecan]

i don't really have issues with youtube on firefox as long as i don't have like 30 tabs open

[proud gorge]

but once I update youtube runs just fine

[spice pecan]

at that point it then gets a bit slow/unresponsive tho

[noble sleet]

Alright what are people playing now in terms of meta skills or is it still too early

[spice pecan]

kinetic fusillade

[crisp obsidian]

Ah right forgot about that part

[opaque sphinx]

why are more minion players not screaming about the forcable +1/2 minion gems on helms now

[proud gorge]

I have way more than 30 tabs open, since I'm a bit of a tab hoarder, and my Youtube runs just fine

[final owl]

if i view shorts and i scroll at all quickly, the video gets out of sync with whats on screen, does not stop appropriately, comments persist from previous videos.. straight up freezes often.. have to close tab.

[opaque sphinx]

thats so nutty

[karmic gust]

so i just went with chromium that has functional ad blocker and brave was firs tthing then disabled everything else in that browser and its mostly fine

[proud gorge]

again, so long as my firefox is updated

[cosmic cobalt]

Kinetic fusillade, shock nova and holy hhammers prolly most played so far

[spice pecan]

its probably just a problem with my pc specifically

rip this manaman in global lmao

[final owl]

I sure AF can't blame my machine, i am above every minimum spec for everything conceivable.

[karmic gust]

i would still rather just go back to qutebrowser but it was crashing too often lately and hardware acceleration on it is broken completely

so cba trying to fix that

[proud gorge]

but yeah, I used Chrome for a while, but man does Chrome gobble RAM, especially if you're tab hoarding

[zealous ivy]

hi, anyone can help with what do I need to do to access elder guardians ? I have the maps but there is nothing in atlas where I could put them. I have all the corners accesed. I've killed shaper and shaper guardians. Am I supposed to finish the quests for eagon to be able to access elder guardians ? Right now I am supposed to explore the memory vaults I have 1/4

[proud gorge]

I had an extension specifically to suspend all tabs that I wasn't actively using

[dim sonnet]

welp its gone

[simple harbor]

Is there somewhere I can look at for the location for all the maps, trying to find where wasteland is

[proud gorge]

and even then the zero-weight tabs were still putting annoying amounts of pressure onto my ram

[runic raptor]

Im learning to speedrun act 5 now i can do acts 1 - 3 pretty fast

[spice pecan]

do those extensions actually improve performance? i always thought those were just placebo

[fiery parrot]

phew, div orb in act 4

[dusky saddle]

Hi, is it me or the build help channel doesnt work ?

[proud gorge]

they do yeah, lowering the actual demands of the tab to practically zero, the main issue with Chrome is just that every single tab is "legally" its own process, so they get incredible authority over your ram allocation

[spice pecan]

i mean firefox does process spamming too, i typically have like 10 firefox entries in task manager, i might try one of thse extensions

[tranquil umbra]

the fuck does legally mean

[proud gorge]

so having 50 suspended tabs lowers their demand to near zero, but they still do count as independent processes

[proud gorge]

as far as the computer and its resource allocation is concerned

[hybrid harness]

mispriced?

[daring bluff]

KF or slam?

[tranquil umbra]

I know a guy who unironically has 4000 chrome tabs open at all times

[opaque sphinx]

new mod?

[daring bluff]

which one is like easier to play with for ssf?

[dim sonnet]

nah it was going for 120c

[tranquil umbra]

yeah from miraged abyss

[dim sonnet]

id rather have the chaos now to flip with instead of waiting for maybe extra 5c

[spice pecan]

probably slams since kf needs some uniques, they're common uniques but still

[opaque sphinx]

nasty, some of this mirage stuff actually cool as heck

[dim sonnet]

i think the belt is just inflated because of ruetoo

[spice pecan]

slams needs basically nothing except a decent bonk stick

[proud gorge]

that's a bit higher than I went, but I do still tend to tab hoard. At any given time I usually have around 4-5 windows, each with near max tabs (which is around 50), though I do go through and clean them up from time to time

since I like having all my tabs visible at least

[tranquil umbra]

this league has so much new shit it's crazy

[spice pecan]

cord belts going for 20c 👀

[proud gorge]

I had to fiddle around with Firefox's guts a bit to convince it to let me have an arbitrary number of incredibly thin tabs that still display their tab icon the entire time

[tranquil umbra]

thank god my build uses a unique belt that isn't hh or mb or the new one

[high bough]

one shots in this game are crazy

[spice pecan]

i like builds that use maven belts but they never end up feeling as good as a mageblood, imo

[proud gorge]

surprisingly cheap

[faint linden]

absolution is p good

[tranquil umbra]

I'm using the "Champion-exclusive" belt

[spice pecan]

ah, perseverence

[hallow pasture]

anyone else getting crazy ping spikes on NA?

[opaque sphinx]

what is a drop mod

[spice pecan]

i'm getting a lot of ping spikes on cali, yeah

[steep sphinx]

any1 in chat owns a forged frostbearer??

[dim sonnet]

i do

[proud gorge]

I might run one, since my current EHit build guide uses a Stygian Belt until Mageblood, but I'm also planning to take the Delirium node that prevents you from using non-cluster non-passive jewels

[spice pecan]

welcome to poe

[tranquil umbra]

time to dive in craft of exile

[dim sonnet]

NoMadKuriboh

[steep sphinx]

tryina share him with me?

[opaque sphinx]

im hunting poedb atm

[proud gorge]

actually wait, nvm, I just reread the bloodline node, and it does specifically specify "jewels socketed into your passive tree"

[shut lava]

do we need dmg to spells or plain dmg as KF totem?

[dim sonnet]

but you can also just go to global 6666 and ask there

[hybrid harness]

Im going insane farming atziri

[proud gorge]

so an abyss jewel socketed into a stygian belt should be fine

[crisp obsidian]

@karmic gust rep sorrow works

[spice pecan]

i wonder if the stygian buff makes them actually compete with +1 anoint tho

i'm like never excited about getting just a single abyss jewel

[crisp obsidian]

my es stays up with blood rage on if I have lavianga's + rep sorrow

[proud gorge]

I mean in my case I do actually need an abyss jewel specific mod

for shock avoid

[tranquil umbra]

it's apparently just rarity

[opaque sphinx]

oh

[proud gorge]

though wait, nvm, I just realized I can't use Stormshroud anyways with the delirium bloodline

[karmic gust]

isnt that just eldritch battery workking

[tranquil umbra]

which is very funny for MF people

[spice pecan]

i was gonna say

[proud gorge]

hmm

[karmic gust]

or do you have mom as well

[proud gorge]

I guess I'll run... Purity of Elements?

[spice pecan]

that deli bloodline is like, surprisingly hard to fit anywhere

[karmic gust]

because i was testing it before league started and it def did not worked

[crisp obsidian]

but blood rage is 4% es degen right? so I should be degening it no

[karmic gust]

its 4% of es dealt as physical damage

[proud gorge]

I can probably drop Determination for Purity of Elements, the Delirium mod more than makes up for the loss of armour

[crisp obsidian]

ohh true

I am dumb holy

[karmic gust]

lol

[opaque sphinx]

still neat tho at least u can target rarity

[spice pecan]

watchers eye/stormshroud/healthy mind/emperor/split personality/bbd/sublime, there's just so many good unique jewels you give up

[proud gorge]

eh, this particular build is actually only giving up FF (for a Slayer notable for damage) and Stormshroud

[tranquil umbra]

and also every timeless jewel

[proud gorge]

I can deal with that

[spice pecan]

yeah, timeless and ff as well

[proud gorge]

oh yeah, it does also drop a timeless jewel, which honestly the biggest loss there is the strength

[opaque sphinx]

splits are mid unless stacker, emperors and sublime don't fit in most build/too exdpensive
but yeah rest are silly and there's plenty others too

[karmic gust]

deli bloodline isnt hard to fit on mana builds at all, especially early

[proud gorge]

I need to figure out some way to get enough strength without the timeless jewel

[karmic gust]

its actually pretty ez to fit in on most builds early

[proud gorge]

probably just more strength on gear

[opaque sphinx]

i wanted that node so bad but u give up a ton to use it, early game its fine but later on i cant justify it

[spice pecan]

i mean yeah before you even have any jewels

[karmic gust]

you just outgear it later on most of hem as well

[tranquil umbra]

can't

[proud gorge]

which can be offset by needing less ele res due to running Purity of Elements

[opaque sphinx]

but by the time u can beat simu i consider u past the point where deli bloodline scales tbh

[river hazel]

lame

[spice pecan]

you don't, it's one of the more annoying things with the atlas change, your unique maps are basically bricks until you find it

[karmic gust]

yea but i think on mom builds its actually best until sublime fire maybe and even thn debatable

[proud gorge]

hey, this works out, actually

[tranquil umbra]

I like the new system a lot but it does have flaws for sure

[karmic gust]

as your smalls are way too good already so you want to use them

[river hazel]

ug... I have a t 1 unique map thats probably on the edge of the map

[karmic gust]

so you are not giving up much

[spice pecan]

what do you gain over being able to use life/mana jewels tho

[karmic gust]

healthy mind only pretty much

[karmic gust]

defense, e.g something that mom builds notoriously lack

[proud gorge]

Remove Timeless Jewel and Stormshroud -> Need ailment immunity and extra strength -> Run Purity of Elements for ailment immunity -> Swap over excess res suffixes to strength/attributes

[karmic gust]

and mana smalls are very good

[spice pecan]

you lose unnatural/lom combo too tho

[proud gorge]

that actually works out very cleanly

[karmic gust]

well smalls are better than that anyway pretty sure

[proud gorge]

I guess I do lose Determination, but in exchange I can run corded belt instead of stygian and get an extra free notable on the tree

[kindred silo]

is end charge gen just enduring composure

[river hazel]

are there anmy other maps with this issue? do blight maps drop as tiers or specific?

[proud gorge]

and there's lots of good options for that

[karmic gust]

the only easily accessibe one sure

[wraith pelican]

does anyone else experience crashes when trying to use snipping tool (windows+shift+s)

[karmic gust]

but like it fits on most builds so its fine

[kindred silo]

well specifically for mana man

since u have to drop end charge node for deli node

[spice pecan]

how does the 40% life loss from that node interact with mom? does it still just come from your life only

[noble sleet]

Do these all have some type of weakness when it comes to either survability, single target, map clear

[karmic gust]

it hits you directly to your life yes, but the 40% less damage is generic

so ideally you don want to go over 60% mom xd

but you cant anyway so ist fine

[spice pecan]

i might try it then, idk what to give up on hiero for it

[kindred silo]

end charge node

[spice pecan]

that's painful

[karmic gust]

just grarb small for it

[proud gorge]

The damage prevention part of the notable is "40% less Damage from Hits", so it applies at the end of the damage layer, while the life loss portion is "lose life equal to 40% of the damage from that hit", so it applies on the life loss layer, after life loss redirection

[gleaming linden]

Damn the new skills are both kinda mid

New melee skills i mean

Its kinda sad :(

[untold lotus]

i killed exarch where tf is the waystone thing

[spice pecan]

kinda gross, and losing 4 perma power charges kinda sucks too, but yeah i guess thats one way to do it

[drowsy eagle]

wym quin killed uber lab

[karmic gust]

well pc generation is free anyway no

[cosmic cobalt]

the new holy skills are still in "test" phase
but for KF ballista the downside is backtracing during map for gold and stuff that drops off screen and that you have no leech if thats something important for u

[spice pecan]

i mean yeah it is

[proud gorge]

actually, wait, does that node, in fact, apply after the life loss redirection layer? What I mean is, what happens if you take the Delirium node but are also an ES or CI build? Does the life loss just kill you under your ES?

[kindred silo]

u shouldnt be crit on archmage for a while either way

[worldly fiber]

anyone else delving? everytime i do t2 azurite node, i get 0 azurite and t1 often just doenst finish

[karmic gust]

but also even if you straight uplost 4 endus you gained 40% less damage taken so uh

[spice pecan]

i think that node would kill you if you were an ivory tower build

[gleaming linden]

Bruh im doing ok but honestly static strike and shockwave is hard carrying maps rn

[molten canopy]

how do you hide your rares when making a filter? just set i.e. evasion bases as tier F, then hide all tier F?

[kindred silo]

and shock nova does hit a lot so eo uptime is gonna be good no matter what

[cosmic cobalt]

mapping wise, KF either ballista or selfcast and shocknova is great, survabilty i would say its about 3/5, u are not tanky, but u are not glasscanon either

[final owl]

no leech on kf does kinda suck. idk what kf totems does for recoup. leech is so nice on self cast kf

[karmic gust]

yea it kills you on anything where you take majority of the damag eto different pool than life

[gleaming linden]

I was trying to do auto-exertion with holy hammer and it looks so cool but like

[proud gorge]

yeah, if it applies after the life loss redirection layer, then it'd just kill CI builds

[gleaming linden]

Super mid

[proud gorge]

which I guess is another downside

[lucid gale]

Hotfix 8 supposedly addressed some azurite encounters, maybe you need a new instance?

[spice pecan]

delve is like, turbo broken rn

[lucid gale]

If its still broken after the hotfix, report it.

[karmic gust]

well its supposed to be node for life/hybrid builds so yea thats very intentional im sure :d

[worldly fiber]

there was a hotfix? i havent restarted the game since 15 hours

[proud gorge]

that does create a very weird interaction though

[kindred silo]

deli node also felt really nice on fusillade

[spice pecan]

there's people who can't even click half the nodes, the crawler stops moving, azurite doesn't work half the time

[lucid gale]

GGG tracker channel is MVP.

[gleaming linden]

Thats why its called a hotfix bozo

[kindred silo]

really helped out with mid game tankiness

[worldly fiber]

yea im just wondering if it requires a restart or not

[proud gorge]

where, since the 40% damage life loss always goes to life, you can play a weird "hybrid" build where the remaining 60% damage is always redirected elsewhere

[spice pecan]

ppl in global are still having issues with various azurite nodes

[worldly fiber]

if it does, then that would explain why my delve is still bugging around

[spice pecan]

as well as the other slew of delve bugs rn

[gleaming linden]

I think hotfixes just require a loading screen

[karmic gust]

well this is not rly weird, it just functions like corrupted soul in that aspect

[soft perch]

just found a fun bug

[karmic gust]

just delayed

[worldly fiber]

doesnt mention a fix about t2 azurite nodes giving 0 so i gues sthat hasnt been fixed

[spice pecan]

huh

[soft perch]

'map boss is accompanied by radin', destructive play = many radins

[onyx adder]

whats going on here, guaranteed barya interacting with multiboss map?

[lunar pike]

I couldnt access this blightmap so i ran a different one and now the map itself is just gone from my stash

[soft perch]

yea lol, probs works with scarabs

[gleaming linden]

Oh shit

[onyx adder]

is precint on the atlas

cuz yea

[soft perch]

lul

[proud gorge]

actually, while its probably incorrect, it occurs to me that that Delirium node could be interesting with Olroth's perma-ward. You take 60% of damage to your Ward immediately, but 40% of that is prevented by Petrified blood, resulting in you taking only 36% of the damage of the original hit, so only 36% of the hit actually goes to Ward. The Petrified Blood causes some ticking damage to come in, then four seconds later the Delirium delayed life loss comes in, going directly to you life pool and bypassing ward

you'd obviously need enough life pool to survive 40% life loss going directly to life

but it could be somewhat interesting for improving the max hit of an Olroth's build by a lot

the main issue is that this wouldn't at all work with the primary olroth's ward build, wardloop

[soft perch]

not how this works

[proud gorge]

due to To Dust being banned by the Delirium node

[proud gorge]

how not?

[soft perch]

petrified blood only works on damage you take to life

doesnt reduce anything that ward mitigates

[lucid gale]

Fix may or may not have affected them, if it seems to still be a problem after you get new instances it's probably worth reporting the lack of reward.

[crisp obsidian]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3916032 @karmic gust good luck

[proud gorge]

oh wait yeah, its condition is "when taking damage from hits" so technically it applies to every hit, but it only prevents life loss specifically

[candid moon]

Remind me, can you frac an essence mod and use an essence after?

[spice pecan]

hallowed ground boss bugged as fuck

[proud gorge]

hmm, I distinctly remember there being some powerful interaction between Petrified Blood and Ward and Recoup back when I played Wardloop last though

[karmic gust]

you def could've skipped the last line xd

just say hat for sure sorrow is bugged 100% ggg dum dum

[proud gorge]

but now that I think about it it might just be the fact that Recoup recoups based on damage taken, rather than life lost

[soft perch]

the powerful interaction is pain attunement

[crisp obsidian]

xdd fixed

[proud gorge]

so Petrified Blood and Ward both allow you to recoup for damage that you didn't actually take

[karmic gust]

perfection

[bitter creek]

Does someone know if there is a site where I can see all the support gems compatible with a specific skill gem? I want to know my chances when using a coin on a gem

[worldly fiber]

yea ive tried just now and got my azurite , wanted to record not getting it rip, seems like it did have to do with the nodes not finishing properly maybe

thanks a lot, wouldnt have noticed the fix for the next like 20minutes of delving lol

[proud gorge]

but yeah, I do wonder how Petrified Blood interacts with that Delirium node though. I imagine the answer is "it doesn't", since the life loss from the delirium node is technically not damage from a hit, but just straight life loss caused by the notable

[karmic gust]

its just life loss

it do not interacts with anything at all

it just happens

[proud gorge]

Petrified Blood is technically life loss prevention, but it doesn't interact probably because it's conditional life loss prevention

[soft perch]

if anything its kinda dangerous cuz any hits that dont get past your ward can pile up and get removed from ur life

[proud gorge]

and that condition is "life loss caused by damage from a hit"

[soft perch]

petrified blood is not life loss prevention? its damage prevention + smoothing

right but thats just effectively saying damage to your life from a hit

[proud gorge]

no it's conditional life loss prevention, it redirects a portion of direct life loss into the "petrified blood" pool

actual life loss

but its conditional on that actual life loss coming directly from a damaging hit

but yeah, it's weird because Petrified Blood actually applies pretty late on the life loss redirection layer, not the damage mitigation layer

so it has some weird interactions

[soft perch]

i dont think it has weird interactions, it just stops it double dipping

[proud gorge]

again, why both Petrified Blood and Ward both allow you to recoup for the full amount before their "damage prevention"

[plucky ledge]

do i still have to complete a nightmare map to get my 5th map slot. because the game says to do maven 10 way but i have done it twice already so i feel like its lying?

[proud gorge]

because they both apply after the "real damage taken" has been locked in

because they're both forms of life loss redirection

[soft perch]

ward is just an extra pool that covers a hit

and the hit either exceeds the pool or doesnt

[proud gorge]

well no, its an extra pool that covers life loss from a hit

which is different to it covering an actual hit

in ways that matter for things that are based on actual damage taken

[soft perch]

wat

[karmic gust]

i mean ward is literally a shield

[proud gorge]

eg: recoup

[shut lava]

guys should i take this? has this some value or crap?

first time doing this trial

[soft perch]

taking 3000 damage to ward and 3000 damage to life has absolutely 0 difference on recoup

[torn jetty]

Whats the shortcut to spam jewleers orb?

[proud gorge]

yes, that's the point

[faint linden]

but if you keep going you get more stuff

[soft perch]

its all post mitigation

[karmic gust]

it covers actual hit, its a shield, ward is like energy shield but shitty

[severe mountain]

Filterblade's default semi-strict profile seems to be hiding all identified rares? Is mine just out of date?

[shut lava]

has anyone a quick info on this?

[karmic gust]

but its still a shield

[proud gorge]

yeah, that's my point. Recoup is based on damage taken, which is locked in at the end of the mitigation layer, at which point the only thing left is the "life loss redirection" layer, where all the damage is getting taken somehow, it's just a question of which pools that damage is going into

[torn jetty]

theres a shortcut to spam jewler orb where you click once and it just does it for you. what is it?

[crisp obsidian]

this is so nice for gold

[proud gorge]

and Petrified Blood is weird because its also on the "life loss redirection" layer, but the pool it gets redirected into is weird and doesn't quite exist

[soft perch]

i feel like ur trying to be overly technical on stuff that doesnt matter or even really has any distinct mechanics

[proud gorge]

or rather, doesn't work like a conventional "life" pool

[whole bluff]

I was so disappointed with the one where mobs turn equipment into gold. But gold volatiles are great, and Fountain of Wealth is insane (it's like 30+ gold volatiles)

[karmic gust]

i bet with bunch of rarity the equipment into gold is a lot of gold too

[whole bluff]

could be

[eternal apex]

D F O U R B A D

[candid moon]

ok the divines seem to be pouring in during map completions lol

[proud gorge]

the point is that "life loss redirection" has weird interactions with anything that works based on damage dealt, especially when the "life loss redirection" is more or less redirecting the life loss into nonexistence (like perma-Ward). And the Delirium notable also interacts with life loss, but the way that it interacts probably just doesn't have any interaction whatsoever with any of this life loss redirection stuff, due to its life loss not being caused by damage or a hit, but just straight un-redirectable life loss.

[soft perch]

saresh is so insanely easy lol

[opaque sphinx]

wtf

[whole bluff]

pog

I got a divine in like act 9 iirc

[spice pecan]

lifesprig inc

i didn't get a single chaos drop till act 10, no divs yet

[whole bluff]

then I 6Ld a decent roll dendrobate in like 120-300 fuse something

[karmic gust]

neversink is obviously just hiding divines from your filter

unlucky

[spice pecan]

dude when i was doing my champ test campaign run before league start i legit dropped ONE rustic sash in the entire campaign and ONE wisdom scroll in all of act 1

[spice pecan]

i was legit thinking my filter got fucked up lmao

[whole bluff]

good reminder

[opaque sphinx]

[stable hawk]

anyone know where wasteland is on atlas for mana cost craft

[whole bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-dory-finding-dory-i-forgor-forgor-gif-26232227

[opaque sphinx]

i bought a 2nd ring cuz i didnt wanna reset my first one and im a responsible adult

[spice pecan]

buying multiple pilfering rings is not the hallmark of a responsible adult

[whole bluff]

xD

[spice pecan]

there's legit people that buy new ones every league lmao

[karmic gust]

pretty annoying that stuff like this is mtx feature but i guess mtx with functionality is more desirable

[whole bluff]

I was gonna buy some packs, but it feels pointless if there's no Faustus tabs sale yet but next weekend

[karmic gust]

still would b nice to have like currency drop tracking tab that persists between league or something would be fun

[final owl]

pff. the only good part of being an adult is being able to do what you want with the money you slave for.

[toxic token]

Tbh now i understand why this game is so addicting finally got a glue how the mechanics work and planned a lot ahead and my build is not strugling at all

[karmic gust]

it do be a good game

[whole bluff]

if I bought supporter packs now, I would buy Faustus tabs at full price like... yesterday

so much for responsible adult

[spice pecan]

[elfin shale]

This isnt worth it cuz it's phys is too low right

[final owl]

responsible reschmonsible.

[shut lava]

is this useful or crap?

[toxic token]

I thinks supporting a good game is somwthing we all should do so your doing a right thing

[gritty garnet]

and it's not even a 1h ew

[elfin shale]

it sucks that all the new weapons are super cool but are gimped by terrible flat

[whole bluff]

I should still consider what I get out of it. No reason why I shouldnt get 20% extra tabs or whatever extra I can afford with lower prices

[ebon tendon]

there has to be a use for this

[elfin shale]

I mean you can use it on a spellcaster

But then you'd just use a Grace of The Goddess or something

[toxic token]

Yes ofc id save for the sale too

[spice pecan]

pbrand with that would be kind of interesting maybe

[gritty garnet]

does nothing for attack builds (low base damage/crit)

[spice pecan]

but bv and ek dont care, and i don't think reap/exsang care either

[elfin shale]

You can get a foulborn that replaces the crit with attack speed at least (still bad cuz holy shit 1.2 base lol)

[whole bluff]

Plus I dont wanna support just to support, that would imply I believed in the money going to stuff I would like, which could lead to like entitlement and shit. Been there, Jonathan in January-February got me out of it. Not going back.

[spice pecan]

maces trying not to be bad in path of exile

[delicate mason]

Holy hammers, rate my drip! :3

[crisp obsidian]

@karmic gust oh right btw can't use high-impact mine while having eternal blessing aura

[karmic gust]

yea i know i dropped the eternal blessing while ago

[spice pecan]

the mace weapon type literally exists just to get elder exalt slammed for str stack RF

[whole bluff]

is snop nova good btw?

[crisp obsidian]

ohhh need to steal new pob then mb

[toxic token]

Got this staff in act 1 and i see no reason to change it😭

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/sabo-mana-miner latest pob

[elfin shale]

On a different build idea
Rigwald's Ferocity, Minion Pact Support, Absolution of Inspiring, The Broken Elegy, Herald of Purity, scale the fuck out of minion life

[spice pecan]

damage kinda low, but you get your helm slot back over frostbolts, feels okay but i only have 3.5k mana rn

[hybrid harness]

guys are we sure pledge of hands is from normal atziri I have done so many

[ebon tendon]

this is a bit too true

[whole bluff]

fair

[karmic gust]

it has new supports in custom mods

for now

but they gud

[spice pecan]

clear/playstyle feels much nicer than frostbolts

[hybrid harness]

it is ilvl 72 so it must be

[crisp obsidian]

what do you run until you can afford greater chain?

[whole bluff]

also, I didnt have it in me to make a clear pun, but snopp means something funny in swedish

[hexed dove]

did you figure this out somehow?

[crisp obsidian]

oh wtf it's cheap as fk nvm

[shut lava]

is there a dex/evasion stacker build? is the amu crap or maybe useful?

[noble comet]

Nope

[severe mountain]

Lol has anyone done a blight in mirage with a boss? How is this even possible?

[karmic gust]

theres plenty of decent supports before anyway

[crisp obsidian]

omg this greater gem system is so much better

[gritty garnet]

I did it in the first quest blight in sewers

[karmic gust]

but yea the exceptionals are much cheaper

[gleaming linden]

Nothing unique about the mace is exclusive to attacks. Meaning this is a source of life leech for chaos spells and phys spells by adding chaos damage

[karmic gust]

than prpevious wokes

its so nice

except the fucking

banner one

[spice pecan]

dex stacking is one of the worst viable stackers you can build, and evasion stacking isn't really a thing

[karmic gust]

as there is only one on trade for 30 divs xdd

[severe mountain]

The boss literally spawned, jumped the entire lane directly onto the pump, and one shot it

[gritty garnet]

until somebody starts making a popular build with one

[crisp obsidian]

ppl will figure it out soon enough anyways

[spice pecan]

i'll make sure to yell it very very loudly if i ever visit malmo or stockholm

[karmic gust]

even the currently would be popular ones are like max 180c

[lucid gale]

poedb has a kind-of searchable map: https://poedb.tw/us/Atlas_of_Worlds

[noble sleet]

Are we still in testing phase for builds? I’m not sure what every league is like but maybe I always expect some broken ass interaction that excels at everything, something op like the doryami tech

[karmic gust]

ok greater multistrike isnt

but i guss that one is rarer lmao

[stable hawk]

o nice thanks, found it

[gleaming linden]

I mean just check poeninja

[spice pecan]

there is nothing nearly as broken as the doryani merc, no

[shut lava]

ok thx!

[spice pecan]

and i hope to god it stays that way lol

[long oak]

Is there a new stash tab type that enables 'go to hideout' for trades or is it jus the old premium tabs with a fixed buyout set?

[empty bronze]

merchant tabs

[spice pecan]

new tab, they're called merchant tabs. premium tabs are only able to do in person trades

[final owl]

that is never a thing outside of endgame, extremely high-end builds. even if it is a thing, you're going to need hundreds of divines to create it.

[lucid gale]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3828185

[empty bronze]

you can convert premium tabs into them or buy them directly iirc

[spice pecan]

you can only convert premium tabs to merch tabs IF you bought the tabs before poo2 0.3

[gleaming linden]

You can convert premium tabs to merchant tabs

Replied to wrong person

[shut trout]

Guys i have a trading question, why when i wanna buy something its super expensive, like 10+ divs but when i get it and try to sell it i only get one offer in 3 days and the offer is 4 divs?

[spice pecan]

unless they changed it, you had to have bought them before then

[empty bronze]

you can convert premium tabs into merchant tabs

[lucid gale]

Still that way, it's a courtesy for people who bought premium stash tabs for trading purposes before merchant's tabs were added.

[hasty ginkgo]

can someone tell me where dry sea is on the new atals?

[lucid gale]

These days, if you want fresh merchant's tabs, buy merchant's tabs.

[spice pecan]

yeah, i converted like ten of them

[noble sleet]

Yeah I guess I should regin in expectations lol

[noble sleet]

What vsof back then considered op tho? Such a good lazy league starter

[final owl]

strong sure

[spice pecan]

vfos was kinda broken as a starter

[final owl]

it doesn't mean it could do everything in the game with zero effort or investment

[whole bluff]

I never actually heard someone use it to swear lul. It's like a dirty word rather than a swear-word. Although some people use it as an adjective when they're unhappy with something, but it would make uncomfortable

[soft perch]

void shockwave seems rare

[spice pecan]

nah, you could kill ubers while half naked if you turned your monitor on

[soft perch]

there are equal void shockwaves on trade as greater multistrike

[final owl]

if you're good you can kill ubers easily on a whole bunch of builds

[spice pecan]

i figured it was something like that

[karmic gust]

yea interesting that its so cheap compared to multistrike

[spice pecan]

yeah but you didn't have to be particularly good on vfos imo

[pale patio]

why does holy hammer do so little dmg compared to the other 2? is there a catch? is it power charge dependent? what am i missing

[whole bluff]

xD

I too will go snop soon

[final owl]

I bet I coulda still made it look hard 😛

[lucid gale]

SNoP? Sounds like a CoC variant 😉

[whole bluff]

Indeed it is exactly just coc||*||

[spice pecan]

why couldn't it have been shock nova of tprocession, so the abbreviation would be snot

[lucid gale]

Ooh, can you imbue it with Cast on Crit for the ultimate very localised meme?

[spice pecan]

wait, can you even imbue a spell with CoC

[lucid gale]

We need Kast un Krit.

[spice pecan]

i guess it would just not do anything unless you had an attack in the same link

[slim island]

probably not

[empty bronze]

uhhhh?

[whole bluff]

I'm gonna spellsling snop and cremation

[spice pecan]

now "kuk" is a word i know

[empty bronze]

i never did a hive colony

[faint linden]

poe players love coc

[empty bronze]

how did i get that?

[icy swan]

@karmic gust @spice pecan what u playing

[empty bronze]

i like coc but its not my favourite

[spice pecan]

literally in my name

[faint linden]

I just like that it fills the screen

[spice pecan]

shock nova of procession mana man

[hybrid harness]

u got pledge yet?

[spice pecan]

negative

[icy swan]

ah new shoc nowa, was intrestet in it a bit,

[hybrid harness]

I must be over 40 atziri deep

goratha said greater spell echo could makme it stronger than ice nova so I have 1 last hope before rerolling

[daring bluff]

so, onslaught and adrenaline i get, whats with the frogs and the oasis ground?

[golden moat]

8/10, now rate mine

[potent bramble]

So, I just dropped a t1 map in the Solaris Temple in A8. I think they might have overtuned drops a teeeeensy amount

[noble sleet]

Yeah lmao. I loved it cause you could equip it at level 12 and it literally did all the work for you lmao. The tracking was really good

[spice pecan]

nah, you can start seeing maps that early normally i thought

[potent bramble]

Oasis ground is regen for health and mana, frogs are... frogs. They don't do anything but hop around and die when you attack 'em

[fallow escarp]

How do you deal with emperors vigilance glancing blows? Since normally you would have recover on block shield?

[potent bramble]

I swear at best I saw them in like mid-late A9

[gritty garnet]

whenever chisels can drop maps can drop

like after chamber of sins 2

[daring bluff]

so is frog used for anything?

[crisp obsidian]

chisels? what's those

[spice pecan]

yeah i thought about running atziri myself but i dont think i can get reflect immune easily

[crisp obsidian]

you mean maven's chisels? that's kinda late for map drops

[karmic gust]

dont they have like boosted quant and rarity or something? didnt we had frog sextant before

[hybrid harness]

u got the ele invert mastery?

if so its 1 mastery change + minor pantheon

[spice pecan]

oh word?

[karmic gust]

maybe its similar

[hybrid harness]

yea it was very simple

[potent bramble]

I know during the Necropolis league when we got allflames, people wanted frogs b/c you could pair it with increased chance for X currency drop. I assume that tech still works, though it's a little harder to manage when you're using it in Mirages

[hot rain]

emperor of purity card is glitched

[spice pecan]

hey look, we have vaporwave album covers in path of exile

[drowsy eagle]

why are my SRS counted as monsters

they are getting the monsters have... map mods lol

[crisp obsidian]

ok you def can go rolling magma mines early, holy

[spice pecan]

i would assume you can as soon as you get high impact mine support

[gritty garnet]

wdym glitched

[onyx adder]

This is normal

[haughty gale]

Will 6l cloak of defiance keep dropping in price or will it rise overnight? 🤔

[onyx adder]

I think the minimum ilvl for map drops is 55

[crisp obsidian]

I dropped t2 map in acts and was surprised

[spice pecan]

does manaman ever use cloak of defiance for +1 passive point or nah

[haughty gale]

its a lot more than +1

[icy swan]

uh expensive xD

[haughty gale]

you kind of arent that near mom area if you dont have to take it

[spice pecan]

i mean you need to path to scion area as manaman anyways, and mom is right there

[haughty gale]

yes but you do it thourgh the bottom

[spice pecan]

really? i've not seen that, but i guess it makes sense if you want to path down there for block nodes

but topside has a lot of the caster nodes you want

[karmic gust]

also mana nodes

cloak is good only when its cheap otherwise pretty bad

especially this league

normally the 1% regen would have a lot of value

i dont think this league it has any value at all

[haughty gale]

I am gonna need that 1% wehn I slot in acceleration belt

[livid quarry]

cool pfp

[haughty gale]

why thank you

[final owl]

huh. it is not what it looks like when small

magic.

[keen veldt]

that actually is a neat pfp

[dim gyro]

anyone know why awaken poe trade no longer lets you select fractured mods?

[snow timber]

i cant turn on automation, why?

[lean urchin]

lack of mana?

[hybrid harness]

irl int req

[crisp obsidian]

LOL

[snow timber]

yea shit wasnt linked im blind lmao

[crisp obsidian]

that's so funny

[silver leaf]

Guys Mirage League loading time to go town is huge, Any idea how to fix?

[hybrid harness]

lmao

[spice pecan]

LMAO, meme museum definitely gonna be eating good

[azure oar]

are people getting crazy amount of lag spikes every 30 seconds or so ?

[karmic gust]

corrupted chaos orb should count as tainted chaos for the memes

[hybrid harness]

we need a div one to reroll mageblood

[crisp obsidian]

whose gonna get the corrupted mirror drop

[karmic gust]

ultimate meme museum entrry

[native abyss]

me

[hybrid harness]

man mirror items being mirroablr with corrupt implicits would be so insane

[icy swan]

overal if u exping u skip all and do only story, or doing also skill points and lab during exping threw story ?

[final owl]

a corrupted chaos orb should uncorrupt items imo.

[crisp obsidian]

Tainted Mirror of Kalandra: mirrors the item and corrupts it

[spice pecan]

always do labs and skill point quests in every campaign run

[karmic gust]

did they fixed the sorrow bug already or ggg is being lazy again and not fixing stuff on weekends smh

[crisp obsidian]

smh ggg

[hybrid harness]

is it a bad one, like would it brick ur average pf build

[icy swan]

i seen some vidos and they always skiping so i did to, but now i see i need back anyway and those skill points make a lot easier latter on.
so like without it u hae harder levleing and less exp i gues

[karmic gust]

no its irrelevant for pf mostly :d

[atomic kiln]

Having to reload the game so damn much to avoid infinite loading screens that suddenly started happening today jfc.

[silver leaf]

Guys Mirage League loading time to go town is huge, Any idea how to fix?

[icy swan]

so next time i will do all at same time and see difrece

[karmic gust]

just indigon/runegraft related

[hybrid harness]

what aree those gacha mechanics called wher u get like a guaranteed rare pull after x amount of tries. can we get that in poe for bosses

[karmic gust]

aslo is the rolling magma doing enough damage or how scuffed is your setup atm

because i wouldn mind tryin it earlier than i wanted

if it actually works

[crisp obsidian]

my setup is ultraultraultraultraultra scuffed and it works in yellow tier maps atleast

[karmic gust]

lmao, good enough i guess :d

[crisp obsidian]

6 link is carrying my ass I think

[karmic gust]

noticeably less damage or fine damage compared to crema

for single

[crisp obsidian]

https://pobb.in/vRg5LYxSurNT

[karmic gust]

oh you are still on assassin even?

[crisp obsidian]

uhhhhh gotta test, I have just been gold farming

[spice pecan]

rolling magma mines assassin? is this poison

[crisp obsidian]

yes xdd

[karmic gust]

wait you are without rando directions even

that is indeed turbo scuffed xd

[crisp obsidian]

no, this is me being goldless

[icy swan]

maybe better like lostar than gacha tho

[karmic gust]

thast funny

[hallow pasture]

yesss driving me nuts

[silver leaf]

Guys Mirage League loading time to go town is huge, Any idea how to fix?

[final owl]

try a different region, though it sounds like most EU ones are pretty scuffed this weekend

[brazen lake]

i love it when awakened trade tells me something is worth 1div and when i check the market it's going for like 2c at most

[azure oar]

fix their server

[final owl]

so common in my experience. awakened is a useful guide, but always double check..

[spice pecan]

hit-based str/acc stack hroc jugg

why does my brain have these useless thoughts?

[chilly ferry]

yeah, best I can tell it seems to be tied to mirage servers, I noticed if I switch regions in a VPN -> Log into POE, it's 100% fine as long as I skip mirage, after entering mirage it seems you get swapped to a regional server and once leaving you don't switch back to your default server. So you're stuck in lagville.

[crisp obsidian]

yeah I just wanted to get some recovery and mines allowed me to do the flask combo mindlessly

[brazen lake]

you're 100% right. i've made my share of couple hundred chaos from checking the price once, but i wouldn't be surprised if i asked for too little in some cases

[karmic gust]

i guess that makes sense

but also another option was just use regular mana flask and not laviagnas right if its scuffed withotu mines :d

[brazen lake]

wait i should check if the current league is checked

[fervent eagle]

whats the quickest path for ravaged square? go straight to control blocks or grab the waypoint first then go there?

[brazen lake]

i swear if i was price checking in standard i'm gonna scream

[chilly ferry]

at Atziri's Foible and Pledge of Hands prices

[crisp obsidian]

yeah but that would require me to click alts

[spice pecan]

oh god i hjavent checked out foible prices

[crisp obsidian]

nah but I also started hating the triple delay xdd

[final owl]

yeah you should. it still ends up with scuffed prices a lot, but that will make it 1000% worse obvs 😛

[brazen lake]

well would you guys believe it

[karmic gust]

i was also bored yesterday while servers were borken and rewrote the leveling helper from lailoken ui for linux wayland xd even though its kinda scuffed and useless

it was fun regardless quickshell is super nice idk how i never used this thing before until my bar i was using before broke

[icy swan]

is golems still better than like herlad buffs ?

[rose vault]

What do i even farm now

[fresh nacelle]

Why cant i interact with it

[soft perch]

nice, void shockwave doesnt work with +1 to cooldown uses

[spice pecan]

a friend of mine who uses linux says "I rather rewrite literally every single program i ever intend to use, than use a different os"

[soft perch]

incredible bug

[spice pecan]

i don't really get it, but sure lmao

[crisp obsidian]

t12 map boss down with this jank setup, so good enough dmg for 2stone with sabo setup I think :d

[rocky oxide]

so they deleted settlers map craft which gave 2 ores and didn't buff scarabs or add astrolabe

[zinc mason]

this keeps happening and i cant use the map device im unsure what to do or what im missing?

[marsh summit]

tree provides

[rocky oxide]

in the middle, there are map nodes

[spice pecan]

the tiny little circles on the edge of the center area, the visibility is very bad

[karmic gust]

based friend

[stray sedge]

man the dream would be lvl 1 fortify on my sunder so I could drop 5 passive points

[zinc mason]

Life savers i was sat there for a hot minute ! hahahah

[stray sedge]

I got volatility which is apparently really good but I'm swapping to a str stacker and dont need it lol

[cobalt crag]

Rookie drop but I like it

[final owl]

best i can do is L1 brutality. sorry.

[stray sedge]

with the dex roll, nice

hell and rarity :- )

[spice pecan]

i see your brutality imbue and i raise you a void manipulation imbue

[lucid gale]

Every now and then I realise that I can just make tools.

[soft perch]

fuck

i was hoping +1 charges would work with void shockwave to smooth out the cdr curve

[spice pecan]

i wish so badly that programming was something i enjoyed or wanted to learn, the few times i've tried i just get so bored/overwhelmed

[lucid gale]

So used to noodling on whatever hobby projects for noodling's sake that being able to actually scratch an itch is such an out there idea.

[final owl]

programming is fun, but it does depend heavily on what variety of it you're doing. programming that requires extensive knowledge of existing software written by other people can be.. less fun.

[vapid moat]

where do i place the map

[lucid gale]

In the past I made a quick launcher for Windows and a Deborder tool for windowed games.

[cobalt crag]

clic on little blue circles

[empty ivy]

the blue

[lucid gale]

Probably a decade before Borderless Gaming.

[opaque sphinx]

bro how do i do simulacrum now

[spice pecan]

i've also been told that being a creative person is huge for programming, i was super creative as a kid but think i lost it all as an adult

[lucid gale]

That image looks oddly familiar ^_^

[minor adder]

Has someone found the -7 to mana cost of non - channeling skills rings craft, what map is it in, and where the maps location is on the new device XD

[vapid moat]

ty

[lucid gale]

You all are welcome to enjoy the slightly unaligned hexagons.

[opaque sphinx]

do i have to find simulacrum on the atlas too..

[spice pecan]

its all the way on the left edge

[opaque sphinx]

seriously

[spice pecan]

yes

[final owl]

i'm sure it can be, it's enjoyable to code when you are able to be in flow state and making things happen. it's less fun to troubleshoot things that inexplicably don't work.

[opaque sphinx]

does this mean atlas mods now apply to simu?

[empty ivy]

https://poedb.tw/us/Atlas_of_Worlds
Ctrl+F Simu

[opaque sphinx]

ty

[faint linden]

I'm starting to be tanky boys -145 lightning res now

[empty bronze]

ggg should make a vaal wall of force

[spice pecan]

make it work like old vaal glacial hammer, so we can microwave bosses with vaal spark again

[empty bronze]

make it duration based instead of a limited number of hits

im planning on playing eye of winter brand recaller, and that would be so good

[simple prawn]

are some hideout just not loading for you guys. There're some item i want to buy but i'm always stuck in the loading screen to the ho

[daring bluff]

is sunder just OP

[opaque sphinx]

yes

[daring bluff]

for early mapping at least

[spice pecan]

oh shit, episode 5 of tile-locked stardew valley came out yesterday, time to afk in a map for 45 minutes

[void oasis]

guiys im stressing i hjad like a 5d divine card in my ritual and deferred it twice, then i died and my map ended so i couldnt defer it the third time
Ive tried like 3 maps now, 2 of which had had unique rituals but i havent seen the card once even though i deferred it twice... wtf?

does anyone know how i can get it back, i deferred it twice surely it should still be there

[spice pecan]

as long as you deferred it the last time you opened the ritual shop you're good

deferred items don't always reappear right away/every time, there's some atlas nodes to make it more frequent

[lucid gale]

Deferred rewards reappear eventually.
The only way to lose one is when it reappears with a red border indicating it has regained all cost.
If you don't re-defer that, you lose it.

Every time you don't defer further, the item regains one defer's worth of cost.

[void oasis]

im scared cauise i opened a mirage and didnt go in too so maybe it was in the mirage and it went awy? but i didnt load hte mirage or do a ritual in it so idk, ive done like 3 maps mirage + map rituals and hvaent seen it once? maybe i have to do red maps only??

[empty bronze]

i think after league start, im gonna try to get the vaal exceptional gem and do some shenanigans with it

[lucid gale]

It can be many maps between appearances of deferred items.

[spice pecan]

again, deferred rewards don't reappear every time, sometimes it takes several maps

[lucid gale]

If you don't interact at all with rituals, nothing should happen.

[void oasis]

okay ty guys,

[fossil ibex]

Your league is ruined.. might as well give up now

[lucid gale]

I forget if deferred items have an even chance of reoccurring or if rarer ones may take longer.

[woeful breach]

hi all i migh be rlly srupid or i dont know how recomb works

[lean urchin]

the rarer ones feel rarer

[humble citrus]

What is special about abyss in mirages?

[lean urchin]

no moving, just a hole

[void oasis]

nope i found it @spice pecan @lucid gale tysmmmmmm u guys

[wintry lily]

Thanks ig.

[woeful breach]

imagine 2 different bows, magic rarity each with one mod, fire dmg and cold dmg, u wanna combine them, but the resulting bow only has 1 mod of the 2 lmao,

[wintry lily]

top 10 breach locations honestly

[sly minnow]

poo2 brainrot

[final owl]

the true brainrot is needing to compare 1 to 2 over even the smallest similarity, when both games are made by the same developer. in my obviously incredibly humble opinion.

[sly minnow]

yes

[long oak]

I bought a merchants tab and it didnt appear in my account, relogged and still missing? Do they appear somewhere other than your normal stash tab bar?

[lean urchin]

faustus has it

[icy swan]

if it sey not supoprted it doenst count to dmg ? i opend my old build so im curious

[lean urchin]

talk to him in hideout "manage shop"

[lucid gale]

Most league mechanics are revised in some way to interact with Mirage. No idea about that particular one.

[sleek latch]

Really quick. can someone let me know where Silo is located on the map device please?

[sleek wyvern]

https://poecodex.com/ has been updated for mirage!

[empty ivy]

https://poedb.tw/us/Atlas_of_Worlds

[sleek latch]

fucking love u @empty ivy

[wintry lily]

Whats special about abyss in mirage is that it sometimes wont run away from you because its stuck in a small room thanks to mirage walls

[rigid void]

Heylooo

Good morning all nice people at this moon

[stuck phoenix]

It's a terrible phrasing.
More correctly, it means: PoB does not interpret this line of text.

[lime tartan]

surely eu servers are fixed now or do I still play on na servers?

[lean urchin]

eu was fine for me

[icy swan]

my stats didint change so i gues u cant open old build in pob to apply new c hanges ? i have same eES and should be less

[final owl]

i mean you can tell they're not actually on fire because you can hold a normal conversation here right now

but they still sound mildly shonky

[stuck phoenix]

this sounds like a completely new question

[icy swan]

yes would like to know if u can see this build with appling new changes, to int scaling etc

[stuck phoenix]

dunno if pob has updated to include those changes yet

I don't use pob

[icy swan]

ahh sory its gollems respawn, i thought its this 50%

[rigid void]

Hey guys, I'm new and I want to know what the difficulty level is out of ten for playing the game without paid storage space (with real money)

[lean urchin]

u can do everything ingame with only those 4 tabs

[empty bronze]

you can just but X% less energy shield per intelligence in the custom modifiers iirc

[rigid void]

It’s 10 or 7

[empty bronze]

thats what i saw somebody use

[stuck phoenix]

you should worry more about the fun scale than difficulty scale

[rigid void]

Does that mean I will live without paying money?

[lean urchin]

wym "will live" u cant buy lives

[vagrant quest]

What act do you get holy hammers in?

[stuck phoenix]

it's just gonna feel terrible to play without storage space

but it doesn't hurt to try the game before you buy

[opaque sphinx]

triple lucky block is such a fuckin cheatcode holy

[fossil ibex]

It's free, just try it for yourself. What have you got to lose

[steel light]

u have time to just play and figure it out after?

[fossil ibex]

You can get through campaign and even to t16 maps without really needing stash tabs

[rocky glade]

Holy Strike is truly repositioning: the skill

[steady elk]

look at these tell me if you think this is fun?

[fossil ibex]

But once you need to actually farm and juice and craft and all that it will start to get tricky

[rocky glade]

Holy Minions didn't hit the right target? Move and try again
Want them to spread out? Move and try again

[crisp obsidian]

first picture is fixed this league and second is fixable by converting currencies

[steel light]

just don't touch standard after league ends

[steady elk]

how'd they fixed that in the first one?

[crisp obsidian]

cause the maps are tier 1-16 now, no more specific maps like maze (tier 1) map or shore (tier 16) map

[steady elk]

i know that maps are all just tier based now but still i'd feel like it's a headache just to sort em around

certainly less of a headache than when i did

[crisp obsidian]

well in endgame you will only have tier 16 maps

[lucid gale]

Less variation in the items so you're likely to have a map key that satisfies you, and yeah, ultimately you'll be converting anything sub-T16 to gold with voidstones.

[rocky glade]

Its not bad, but hella weird
The best I can describe it is what if a strike skill has a built in Ancestral Call but it doesn't switch targets immediately

[steady elk]

does that mean the map tab is no longer needed?

[crisp obsidian]

correct

it's only nice to have as it saves space and allows you to save low tier maps for alts but otherwise it's not needed

[steady elk]

shieeet that's great

[crisp obsidian]

ye ggg made the game even more f2p friendly

[steady elk]

more points for mtx

[rocky glade]

FUCK CAN I GET A REFUND THEN

GGG I NEED A REFUND

[steady elk]

yeah i believe it's 14.5$ now for literally all you need if you don't gaf about mtx

$14.5 for thousands of hours is a steal!

[crisp obsidian]

which rolling magma mtx is better, blue or green hmm

[steady elk]

i bought the infernal armor set yesterday

[steady elk]

love it. but can't figure out what effects/back attachment im gonna stick on it

btw you mentioned converting currencies, are we not supposed to stack all the currencies we get while playing?

[crisp obsidian]

I mean you can, but you can save space by converting it to chaos through faustus currency market

[steady elk]

im getting a sense of deja vu

[crisp obsidian]

and then buy back when you need something

so poe1 is really really f2p'ble nowadays. all you need is 1-2 merchant tabs tbh

[lucid gale]

Some currencies become less worth picking up once you get past what you can meaningfully use in a league or when their relative value is too low to trade.

[warm musk]

Is this the reason why my character freezes?

[lucid gale]

While it's fun to have 5k armourer's scraps or portal scrolls, ultimately you kind of saturate.

Some currencies can be sold to vendors for other currencies too, or bought from vendors.

Like how you can get identify scrolls from selling many of the more basic currencies.

Kind of nice to sell a stack of transmutes or whetstones when you need a bunch of scrolls.

[mental violet]

is there any way to ooberserve all your scaling factors in pob for new gems yet?

[fossil ibex]

Still not in maps? C'mon zao

[lucid gale]

This is from Standard, my Mirage toon is level 2 in Lioneye's 😄

[wary acorn]

if anyone knows the solution, as of 2 leagues now for some reason I can not shift+tab to open the steam ui only on poe1 works on all other games, i have yet to find a solution anywhere for the life of me

[lean urchin]

is your poe in fullscreen?

[fossil ibex]

At least you beat Hillock

[lean urchin]

maybe he is oni goroshi farming "in lioneyes"

[rigid void]

Oww noo 😞

[strange pilot]

does Standard issue in Atlas fixed? ??

[lucid gale]

You haven't disabled it here, right?

[steady elk]

read the rest of the conversation, it's a lot better with this league now

[steady elk]

make sense i always played as if im SSF but i always end up not understanding crafting so i end up buying gear

[night bone]

does using mines get around the drawback of shimmeron?

[wary acorn]

... how tf was that the last place i looked.... ty... xD, I honestly have no idea how that got disabled since i never touch it

[fierce rock]

what's the best map for maximizing overlapping the mirage and the mechanics?

[lucid gale]

[opaque sphinx]

there's no bleed prolif in this game right just booms?

[lucid gale]

Looks like I landed at around 2.75 TiB seeded for the 3.28 torrent.
Seven brave souls still downloading.

[sly minnow]

beating kitava while delirious lol
too bad it doesnt last that long

[steady elk]

what are those icons in the left corner?

[lean urchin]

Delirium mechanic, its his rewards he will get once delirium is over

[steady elk]

oh right

[full fossil]

what is a build i can reroll into, as idk my exsang/reap miner is just not feeling good i barely deal dmg to t10+ bosses

[steady elk]

i think delirum is my least run mechanic

[full fossil]

i got like 100c+ 1d to fix it but idk man or reroll..

[golden moat]

is this how shock nova of procession is supposed to work with mjolnir? you get all overlaps?

[teal hinge]

wish they could fix the massive load time for town -_-

[hard cliff]

what the fugggggggggg

maps have hands

[gleaming linden]

waaaay too much hype for some weak skills D:

"can't nerf it if it never has a chance to be op" type shit

[lean urchin]

what weak skills u tried

[wintry lily]

You know your ass is cooked when your headset isnt even on and still hear the damn dink noise

[nova moss]

[gleaming linden]

holy hammer aoe scaling is completely anti-shotgunning

the cascade is too far apart and it only competes with sunder when u got a power charge

static strike of gathering would be good if the beam didnt start at 1 chain

with 4 second duration

[lean urchin]

i got no experience with holy hammers, i just checked if you were just hating for the sake of hating

[sleek ocean]

wow gull is quite expensive so far

[gleaming linden]

nah im hating cause i got all excited just for the balance team to make sure nothing new is good

like lightning strike is still a better skill than holy hammer and gathering

even post nerf

even smite double dip gets fucked by multistrike autotargetting

[opaque sphinx]

have u played retal glad

[gleaming linden]

fist has a huge multiplier

[ashen glacier]

Is it normal to have a 2 minute plus waiting time to go back to town etc.?

[opaque sphinx]

yeh im doing bleed evis+fist for fortify

[gleaming linden]

im using a 4l fist with only 50% block just for fun and its obliterating mid tier bosses

on a slayer

[lean urchin]

normal no. i get like 15s waiting tops

[opaque sphinx]

ah nice im doing glad

[gleaming linden]

i just threw fist on for shits haha

[opaque sphinx]

just trying to get to simu atm

[lucid gale]

Sounds a bit steep - what kind of hardware are you on? Do the F1 performance metrics say anything interesting?

[gleaming linden]

idk the new skills let me down pretty hard

[ashen glacier]

i wonder why my game hangs like this

[gleaming linden]

they seem pre-nerfed

[soft perch]

time to try a strat

[final owl]

I guess they're trying to avoid power creeping the game every time they add a new skill

[ashen glacier]

i just swapped to vulkan shaders cause others said it was better

[lucid gale]

If you're on a modern AMD GPU and use drivers newer than September, Vulkan isn't a great idea.

I haven't looked at whether 26.2.1 and 26.2.2 are any better yet.

[slow sonnet]

This bug is killing me why are the gears off-center 💀

[midnight sonnet]

poe wont even start for me now keeps freezing, would never happen in diablo 4

[ashen glacier]

RTX-3060

[versed token]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[lucid gale]

Error 37? 😉

[wintry lily]

[slow sonnet]

FEED IT

[wintry lily]

What dop you think ive been doing it

[midnight sonnet]

dont make me use my space lasers

and why is every unique i get only worth 1 alchemy -.-

[gleaming linden]

keepers and mirage both felt kinda ai

this mechanic isnt bad at all but somethings off and like

wheres skill buffs... i know they have skill usage data

[crisp obsidian]

?XD

[wintry lily]

double the dust

[crisp obsidian]

nah that dust is AI it's not real

[tranquil umbra]

ig I'll just be using a single ele wand for now

[soft perch]

i got like 5 div from that map lmao

[final owl]

lmao. feel kinda ai. quantify that somehow

[wintry lily]

spare change

to me, specifically, i need it

[tranquil umbra]

what is that horned scarab

[wintry lily]

30k dust lmao

[gleaming linden]

idk maybe i just dont like poe1 that much anymore

im starting to look for negatives

[final owl]

that sounds a bit more real

[tranquil umbra]

burnout is real

[crisp obsidian]

burnout is not real

it's just a made up thing by your mind

[tranquil umbra]

so is every other emotion yes

[final owl]

and it happens. thats the way it goes sometimes. plenty of ways to spend your time out there.

[gleaming linden]

i mean its been happening every league right about when i start red maps

since settlers

[mortal jetty]

how do you get in mavens crucible in new map device?

[wintry lily]

What playing settlers does to a man

[noble sleet]

Is hierophant like an ascendency name what is that?

[tranquil umbra]

my first league was keepers so I am having an absolute blast rn

[slow sonnet]

Yes, it is a templar ascendancy

[tranquil umbra]

yes

[fierce rock]

where do i put inscribed ultimatums?

[gleaming linden]

nah settlers was goated

just lasted too long

[wintry lily]

You told me you had no taste in 3 words.

[noble sleet]

Is kinetic fusillade a totem build?

[teal island]

huh?

[gleaming linden]

bro build and content diversity IS taste

[final owl]

I will always feel that PoE is a great game. but eventually I will lose the sense of exploring new things and learning and i will probably tire of it. and that's fine

[wintry lily]

so about every league?

[gleaming linden]

the builds really arent diverse tho

[chilly ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-neat-kenneth-30rock-thats-cool-neat-gif-21903691

[gleaming linden]

its been the same tropes for years and even bloodlines are kinda a let down

[tranquil umbra]

it can be yes

[gleaming linden]

super niche or minions

[tranquil umbra]

I am.playing them rn they are really good

[noble sleet]

Ohh man totem builds.. something about totems Idk..

[opaque sphinx]

[tranquil umbra]

the auto targeting is so good

best ascendency is hiero for kf totems but I'm doing champion because of my planned build

[wintry lily]

thats copium from your end

[hybrid harness]

@noble sleet I went back to shock nova after goratha came out with some changes (and upgraded gear) and it genuinely feels better than ice nova now. single target maybe a tiny bit worse still but the way better clear makes up for it. 1mill tooltip dps

think the skill still isnt in pob lol so idk what my dps is at

[tranquil umbra]

the trans version has actual clear which is incredible

[hybrid harness]

yup just needed gear to make the single target fine too

[tranquil umbra]

you can probably gem swap into regular for single target honestly

for bosses and shit

[hybrid harness]

would be helm swap too, annoying. and the single target honestly isnt much worse now

[tranquil umbra]

ah makes sense

[north bluff]

yo, does anyone know how Surgeon's works for flasks nowadays? I recall it having an internal cd that applied to all flasks (this was a few years ago), so that you couldn't just stack a bunch of Surgeon flasks and upkeep flask charges, but I think something changed in the past year or so and maybe there's a new rule? Anyone know and able to give me advice? I appreciate it, thanks

[noble sleet]

Thank you for your service friend. Any uniques that are required? I heard the ice nova, you really do need a certain unique helm but I wanted to open up belt slot for scream and gull

[hybrid harness]

this skill apparently doesnt want intensify or inspiration so thats a lot of dmg from better supports

[charred condor]

Hey guys

[stuck phoenix]

Intensify is a really strong support though

It's just probably not worth because you care about the aoe too much

[hybrid harness]

for ice nova its kitavas thirst u want, for shock nova just the common mana uniques lol. check any pob and they will have em

[charred condor]

I am playing kinetic fusillade ballista

Am In act one

[hybrid harness]

goratha said from testing that unequipping the gem, so losing a link, made him gain single target dmg

[charred condor]

This league mechanic is rlly good imo cus u can just dupe essences and stuff

Only with good placement tho

[tranquil umbra]

do your projectiles shoot immediately

[charred condor]

No

[hybrid harness]

and if aoe is that important maybe I should take that mastery

[charred condor]

I’m not even using fusillade yet

[tranquil umbra]

ah ok good

[charred condor]

I’m using rolling magma

[drifting epoch]

anyone else having issue with currency market making a listing?

[tranquil umbra]

yeah league mechanic is pretty nice

[charred condor]

The guide says to switch at lvl 40

[lucid gale]

Ooh, what were you up to when it happened? If you're on Standalone, maybe see if a PackCheck detects anything broken, and if on Steam, validate the files? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3914812/page/1#p26585565

[tranquil umbra]

you should be able to switch as soon as you get the reduced skill duration wheel + less duration support

[hybrid harness]

whats the reason for pob taking so long to update this league btw. if anyone knows

[tranquil umbra]

a lot of fucking skills

[lucid gale]

Lots of stuff to do, typically.

[hybrid harness]

fair enough

[charred condor]

I watched the trailer and the build melted through avarius

[buoyant juniper]

Hey what's the best brander now that PBoD is fucking exploded

[tranquil umbra]

yeah kf totems are insane

[lucid gale]

The tree is out in the beta branch, but that's quite short of the whole thing.

[charred condor]

True they changed Templar starting skill

[chilly ferry]

Storm brand great so far

[noble sleet]

Uhh shock nova really really wants cast speed and aoe right?

[buoyant juniper]

Can I have a Templar PoB?

[chilly ferry]

first try

[stuck phoenix]

Your prior statement sounded like a generalised statement about the support in general. Having anti synergy with this skill is a separate matter

[crisp obsidian]

you are free to go and contribute to the development of pob

[chilly ferry]

I don't have a POB, I just figure it out as I go

[tranquil umbra]

nice

[buoyant juniper]

Your whimsy terrifies me

[stuck phoenix]

Well, maybe that was just about me saying probably

In which case it's fair enough

[hybrid harness]

ye shock nova specifically. was good for ice nova but absolutely not here

[strong yew]

can we just block everything including shrines so that the mirage doesnt spawn next to a random ass shrine rather then my fully juiced blight?? this is so stupid

[noble sleet]

You know I feel echoing shrine would be busted for the 100% cast speed right lmao? Or there’s a shrine where you have 50% extra aoe so I’m curious to see how big the AOe can get on it

[tranquil umbra]

no

[noble sleet]

Or maybe diamond shrine? So many options lmao

[tranquil umbra]

diamond shrine is nice for builds using heralds

[paper ferry]

Is servers good now in EU? its 5am

[hybrid harness]

I didnt even have issues on EU during normal hours. u should be gucci

seems fixed from yesterday

[soft perch]

ive found a rly fun strat holy moly

[analog shoal]

reaper spectres are fun

[soft perch]

like 95% sure theres a bug at hand but hey exploit early exploit often

[gritty garnet]

idk if you can get more with the new limit gem

[noble sleet]

For this transformative shock nova, what level do you need to be to equip it and does it feel bad to use as soon as I DO equip it lol

[stuck phoenix]

Same level as regular shock nova to socket it in equipped equipment

You can't equip gems smh

[gritty garnet]

it will feel bad if you're not used to high cast speed spells or never upgrade your mana flasks

[noble sleet]

Poe 2 has gotten to me

[shut lava]

is that a solid wand for KF totems? if so - would u reroll something?

[barren river]

wht up I have a question

[short prairie]

@stuck phoenix should I play my zdps flicker reliquarian?

[stuck phoenix]

If you want to

I kinda wanna go new shock nova

[short prairie]

Pob told me even a 5 link gives me only 500k dps

[stuck phoenix]

But I'm kinda realising that it's not the sleeper I hoped it would be

People realised it's actually good