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If you want, sure.
i was questioning urs
I don't think warden was very meta for ele hit.
20% more damage from attack speed and 40% more aoe.
when?
the unseen huh
elehit so op
Is it OK having no chaos res w/o CI? I'm not following ruetoos EH buildhttps://mobalytics.gg/poe/profile/ruetoo/builds/elemental-hit-slayer-melee
When you say no chaos res, do you mean -60% or 0%?
there wtf I cant link
Does anyone think stacked decks are actually good for the game?
Other than manipulating compulsive gamblers with a dopamine rush, is there any other purpose for them
-37% per moba
it was an excuse to delete the divination scarab
Not OK.
Why was an excuse needed
hell if i know
What does the div scarab have to do with stacked decks exactly?
oh
Instead of stacked decks they could just make div cards more common to make the total supply the same
it became div scarab of the cloister
which is unforgivable
What?
they hate target farming good loot
You can't use scarabs in unique maps
Is that even true?
Surely if it was then they wouldn't have the seer at all.
Stacked decks are like if your job paid you 5% of your salary in "gambling money" that you could only use for playing slot machines
you know whats really sad - scrying fortunates somewhere is rn best raw div strat
they only gave us seer because farming div cards is dogshit tier
i am hella coping on currency drop buffs
It lets you put whatever map card pool you want onto whichever map, that's pretty targetted to me.
Not that it matters but with map runners nerfed div card farm nerfed again
Lmfao
have you ever tried to target farm a card you've scried?
all farms for cards are generic and not targeted rn
yeah, it's literally not possible lmao
Yes?
a reasonably rare one
then you should know that just because you scry the card does not mean you're actually going to drop it
and not some dime a dozen
Yeah.
honestly
is league already over
can we just change divination boxes
you have no way of influencing the frequency of card drops, scried or not
Well, depends I guess. Is the frac orb card reasonably rare?
to actually care somewhat about the cards on map
eh borderline farmable
its rare enough to be painge
so you can put the pepperoni and tomato sauce on the counter, but you still need the pizza dough to make the pizza
His build looks good tho
you feel me
but reasonable enough to get a few in reasonable time
That's my usual scry.
ok ill just adjust mods on gear and/or purple flask
But now fractured orbs are global drop
given that we dont know rarity of fracs rn in global pool that scry actually may make some sense
How do you get divines in ssf actually? Div card or global drop?
Tldr its even rarer
just to be safe
got most of mine from inscribed ultis this league, farming div cards was rly popular too
maybe my ts would be good for card farming actually
Ah, rip
do you think we could delay league another day, I haven't decided what to play yet - I am sure no one will mind
with sanctum nerfed and hoards dead there rly is no reasonable raw currency farm
well okay can do boxes or someshit but
With their endgame overhaul, if they brought back towers from the old days of Poe 2 how would yall feel? Lmao
They doubled the drop rate of rare currency
Anyone else beelining paths not taken?
Just reroll tomorrow
I never have a clue what div cards I have in the map anyway
Which build do you think will better at end game? KBoC necro or Hiero Ballista KF?
what it do
It wasn't in the global drop pool, doubling that doesn't mean anything really.
lets compromise a tad there - kboc hiero
drop 2 cards from different maps instead of one from the map you run
Doenst master? If we dont get one every 20 maps its worse than b4
lets compromise a tad here
Adds div cards from 2 random other maps to drop pool in your current map, and removes current maps cards from pool
lightning conduit archmage necro
yeah i am kinda annoyed by not being able to predict if frac orbs are like div rare or sacred orb rare in global pool
its annoying
only for ssf
Is that good?
I can't decide between cyclone or flicker, help me lads.
I guess replaces your maps cards with 2 others. It shouldnt remove rain of chaos if that's on both the map you run and the map you random
Its prolly going to be rare af just like in poe2
They're not that rare in 2.
i bet its just div rarity
Sacred orb is my guess
Small positive unless you run a map with above average div cards
It's definitely gonna be closer to sacred than div.
its just rare in poe2 cause it also isnt in the global pool
so effectively u just use till scry
idk how many fracs i even used this league but it was 20+
With how you run maps in poe2 it might as well be.
But is it just a random other map?
Or you scry your entire atlas and have the good half of maps at like avg weight×profit×2
2 random other maps
No idea
Or it doesnt work this way
Guess i dont understand that One haha 🤣
Esm already pointed out
warped timepiece gives immunity to all ailemnts freeze etc, just any debuff, even poison and bleed and curses???
or am i wrong here.
It makes them faster to expire
but 100% faster to expire means it never happens no?
100% faster = half the duration
100% faster means half duration
not really digging doing another slayer starter for league... but won't be cyclone so tahts a plus I guess
ahhhh, thats a shame
2 seconds is 1 second
For retaliate gladiator, what map mods are horrible to deal with?
for now I'm like: cannot leech cuz of the mana wheel (I heard mana is somewhat of an issue with this build)
reduced block surely
recovery rate because I like having working life flasks
and that's about it, no?
phys reflect
tru, tru
2=1 
i cant decide what play frends
You can block The reflect tho
am i stopid for wanting to go TR pf
mewgenics
recovery rate is a bad mod for way more reasons than life flasks
there's always division by 0 in these somewhere
was hoping life on block would counter that one
oh it probably does
Should also be much easier to become reflect immune
especially for phys builds, elemental was pretty easy to get reflect immune
why do I have the poe 2 tag, hmmge
Just change pantheon for reflect maps
It does since instant recovery, like life on block, is not timed so has no rate to reduce.
for phys reflect easiest way is to respec to slayer and dont do retal
kinda hard to get phys reflect immunity before mageblooded flask rly
The unique ring
Isnt it just phys mastery ply panth still?
- pantheon?
oh yeah phys mastery has 60
yo guys i hesitate between templar and duelist, which one is better to start on the new league?
not sure if bane of legends flame/flesh is expensive early
forgot that, fair enough
that'd help
Thaat ring will always be bait
You are better geting an influence ring
Yup
yo guys i hesitate between templar and duelist, which one is better to start on the new league?
Or anti reflect on chest
Unless it's a single map for completion in ssf
yes
Better ring + maybe pantheon imo
both are in good shape rn
which one do you think will be more fun?
Holy strike looks very solid in The start
only you can know that
So you can pick your level 12 skill
fun is subjective
templar cuz u don't have to fight me over the bane of legends flesh/flame
I'm throwin punches fr fr
ok i guess i will have both maybe, is the stash shareable betwen characters?
inside same league yea
cool
8h till slam start
i will have two characters i guess
Since sentinel is permanent through loading screens is just a free rf
i will have duelist and templar
Easiest öeveling there is
I’m always bait 
omg im so happy
Too much info 😏
Why people playing kf totems when slam exist
Nerfed
It's still op
im so happy that its friday and i will have free time to play games
because french man said slam useless now
its ez just rush treetree nolife for 3days get mageblood then....
Excertion nerf is huge
Doesn't matter
tree tree gaming till 6 link?
Still best starter
earthshatterino is still A+, just not S+ anymore
It is s+
but like is there even any S+ starter left
Yes, Econc still pretty good
but icon does not seem to mtach
They didn't touched the defensive

I think frost blades is still decent
I was thinking for a second I would tree tree in acts, then I just caught myself: "why, I have pconc?"
If u ran arrogance excertion its now 40% instead of 15%
I’ll start frost blades into flicker scion
Are you a ssf enjoyee or tourist
Enjoyer
senses is the true ethical vegan ssf player
I just press 4 warcrys on my own
wtf casie
Casie prob don’t know my 44x sirus story
Filthy casuals can't even press 3 warcrys
From my understanding, casie is on another lvl where stuff like this is not frustrating
I can’t even press the movement skill button
flicker is movement on its own

So Casie will play flask piano petrified blood?
real
Man I really don’t know what to play. Thinking about that holy strike skill, it really just depends on my build guide and what they make. I did this in Poe 2 but I feel like I’ll make 10 fun builds to play but never reach the endgame lmao
Go RF and chill
Why shoud it be frustrating
It's fun
They work in mysterious ways

Many players just wanna accomodate for brainrot during char creation (I'm one of them)
did the mirage update drop?
No piano in poe thanks
No, there's a timer on the site for when it does.
Combo isnt piano gameplay
It's not even combo gamleplay
Is there pob update ? My pob still shows there isnt
Even 1 button gameplay is frowned upon
It's worse
ah I see
what are some good league starters?
idk much about poe1
Nope.
If u don't know much about poe1 look up righteous fire by Pohx
Play that
pog jump
Hmmm
Shot league is in less than 8 hours and I still didnt decide on a leaguestarter yet
golem or bow
i did play that i think long time back
i kinda want more engaging game play
like maybe using 3-4 buttons?
3-4 buttons? That crazy
in poe1?
Look what some gameplay on YouTube and pick what looks good
apparently no one played pf carrion of scavenging
what do i look up?
What about 6 or 7
I feel u. I only decided on it this morning
is ther flicker strike in poe1?
Yes
💀
Are yall gonna miss how good slams were?
Magefist on YouTube for flicker strike things
Most guides have some map showcase at the start. If you like what you see play it
I think in my current setup I have to press 6 buttons for my slam build
is it good
.
Slams were good? I guess nope
Idk it's flickerstrike
Magefist makes it work
He is the man to look up for it
If I actually started poe playing rf I would have never played poe 
Stop recommending rf
Never
Its for old people, not stupid
my builds in poe2 can clear screen
can flicker in poe1 clear screens? like endgame?
Strongest archetype by times 3 as league start. Now just times 2
If you are new play RF, if you are a senior citizen play rf
He is a d4 fan. He want new players to quit
whats the worst piece of shit bait build this league? its that time of the year to get baited and roll another character after 2 stones
Ye u go into uncontrollable teleportation around the map
It's super zoomy
if ghazz only plays minions, I wonder if he’ll try uhhh Holy strike. Man when mercs were a thing, I’d see these people run lightning spiders only cause of doriyami like that was so broken lmao.
oo thats cool
Check out magefist
i personally didnt really enjoy rf much i think
He has video showcases
Its the same flicker as poe2, but you never stop to get charges
it was boring just running around
Conversion trap mines
perfect ty
nice nice
were any new ascendencies added?
like how poe2 got druids?
Scion got one
ok if you want an actual bait that isnt just obvious bad, the new trans searing bond deals 2 mil dps on six link with 1 item
We don't get new characters like druid etc anymore
is scion begiinner friendly?
Glad to be of service. Just be aware that more than 5 minutes on conversion trap mines is considered a lethal dose
not at all
i figured
Scion is the most confusing class of them all
the guy who i found the ambi impale pob from just posted on reddit with a static strike zerker and it says to use ahk to automate mana flask 💀
Kf totem
Poe1 have clearing that poe2 will never dream about. Temploralis is just a regular gem here 
Based
Scion is when u want to make something turbo weird and u know what ur doing
i think i saw a trailer for it, its kind of like a all in one type class
scion is for niche builds that require very specific interactions
jack of all trades
Scion also the go to for aurabots
ends up being the opposite
o
scion/ascendant builds are generally some of the most niche and specialized
It only requires frenzy generation
and i would guess reliquarian will be the same
i think ima go for flicker striker
For flicker to work
I feel already sorry for all kf totem enjoyer after hitting red maps
it has effects of unique items on the ascendancy points. so its special because of that
For flicker, magefist on YouTube is your messiah
also anyway to use wasd in this poe1?
scion ascendant has like 2-3 niche builds and thats pretty much it, while reliquarian looks like 1-2 builds rn
if that
In ssf the scion ascendancy is HUGE for flicker
And then it died pre release
hmm
no wasd, you can bind move to W and just hold that while moving mouse i guess
Lol I wish
tytykiller just uploaded a 6h 2 stone zerker flicker strike starter on youtube. check it out
and 3rd party tools or mods for wasd movement?
Scion ascendant is your excuse to dump all your cluster jewels on one tree
you could use controller, as alternative
oo thanks
Last time I played flicker in ssf was because I got lucky and got replica farruls early in heist
yeah there's a 3rd party tool that move your mouse to emulate wasd i think
i see
Praw or spectres. I might just toss a coin when I reach red maps 
you can bind WASD and then mimick the movement while you move your mouse 😂 your brain wont know the difference
oh wait actually i has 4 builds this league - due to new timeless jewel a socket tester will be neeeded
hello hello how's everyone doiiing
Waiting to login
@native token have you flickered in ssf?
not much point to wasd in poe1 since you can't move while using skills, and if you can, it's because the skill itself is providing the movement
mouse to emulate wasd 💀
Why did they show us a timeless jewel with no actual info of what it gives?
slightly before you got unlucky you say 
Generally a bit too jank. Some peeps played with gamepads before rhe controller UI, but really, no.
I am in need of a build that costs 10c, clears all ubers, clears all t17s, clears all maps in 1min thankssss 
It gives....
anticipation.
Esm esm you wanna join me and start flickering after your first character? 😳
someone should make a 3rd party tool to allow mouse & keyboard on the controller UI 👀
what's the easiest way to level with slayer? im doing bleed slams but i got literally 0 dmg
Armour vs elemental dmg pog
zao dont you need to sleep? 
bleed sunder but with dmg
Plan is slam into ghostwire
Sunder
oh shit i guess i skipped the last part 😂
Queue isn't up! LOGIN'T
foulborn or normal
Am in bed, 2/3 through the new Dosh video 
well i am starting slaya, just idk rly what i am respecing it too after leveling
Zao what u playing this league?
so if i fall of the ladder or smh i hypothetically could go flicker
New dosh video good.
I only know dosh from the cogmind video
Foulborn
Absolutely no idea. Gonna make a token Templar and stand in A1 town all Saturday.
I’m league starting shrine belt
I did watch a factorio video without any previous knowledge and it was too scary
You should in theory be able to get 6 implicits with the new orb, if the value is modifiable.
Gl with that
And then still keep corrupting it after.
https://www.twitch.tv/jungroan
PoB: https://pobb.in/oI4me6qfpJAX
Written Guide: https://mobalytics.gg/poe/profile/jungroan/builds/perfect-agony-poisonous-concoction-assassin
edited by @awildseal9910
0:00 Intro
1:59 Progression
3:42 PoB
is that line scalable?
has anything ever been more bait than this
That's like watching a Connor build guide before opening pob
Good question.
Economical terrorist
corrupt it again to scale the 6 implicits value again 
you can tell a build isn't bait when it says totally not bait
👁️
So one thing I didn't get, the new belt rolls random shrines permanently?
Like doesn't reroll them between maps
Flicker, frenzy of onslaught, frost blades, smite
you permanently get the effects of one defensive and one offensive shrine.
Pick your poison
nah it's random mods on the belt, not per map
I'm not working tomorrow for clarity.
more of maybe maybe flicker, zenith, trans static if somehow good
its at 8am for you right?
No always same but I think GGG reserves the right to nerf shrine belt if need be
Launch, yeah. Patch at 5
Wtf
Just make shrine belt more rare than mageblood and it's whatever
Looks like a screenshot I could take. But just to mention, even if you can do it, it's not good to do it
maybe i'll play an armor stacker
the "nerf" will be the good shrines having a 0.001% chance to roll
Gl buying good shrine belt for 1 mirror
gonna fall asleep at your pc before you press the update button
been there
Making items rarer has never helped with overall game balance
something something "here for a good time not a long time"
Ggg has to nerf the item itself anyway
even the ones with bad mods will be worth alots since everyone will be buying them to do 3:1 vendor 😅
remember, the economy is the actual game
we can't make neversink filters for 3.28 until patching starts right?
cant 3to1 vendor it
Wtf does 3:1 vendor for a belt do?
will we be able to do that tho
you can't !? 😱
like you cannot do that for watchers and bdds
Can u 3:1 mageblood?
oh i thought it was working on all gear uniques except like jewels
if belt is divinable there is no reason 3to1 wont work on it
but it probably isnt divinable
the belt isn't divinable
It's not
then i bet 3to1 aint happening too
that you can do, it will give you 1 mageblood with diferent rolls
i thought divines would only rolls the numerical values, oh that's cool then if it can't be 3:1
I divined chat but you all are still perfect rolls.
3:1 mageblood should work though, althrough a pretty financially bad decision
zao ❤️
the play is to find a build that gets the most out of a shitty belt roll
Ideally what is the bis roll on the rare belt? Acce shrine and diamond?
I think it's going to be a nice niche item to build around if you get the right mods and people who act like it's mageblood 2 are stupid
I think the belt will be common with extremely rare god rolls
Perfect bottom rolls

the belt is certainly anything but niche
Did they give us more gold drops this league? Last league was so hard to get enough for trading/kingsmarch/etc... as a casual player
So what's the best mirage build? 
it looks like generic power to me. a chase item.
Some mods are indexes into a list, like the people on Timeless Jewels and the minion type on Dark Monarch.
can only have 1 offensive shrine
Wait. Static, right, got buffed
The belt is no joke.
U can get acceleration and resistances. And use the helmet that increases shrine effects
Dang, then Acce shrine and?
It's crazy
if chains clear as well as some folks think they do... gonna be funnye
mediocre shrines on the vast majority of belts allows it to be somewhat common since belt slot is at a premium anyway
U can even get all attacks are crits on it
resistance
Then u can unspec all crit nodes
come trauma stack with me senses
If accel is in the the pool yea belt is bonkers
Allright time to sleep! See ya guys later
i am a rare brick mageblood, i coulda been something great but instead im this shit
accel is probably in, more of a questionmark for echoing shrine
I ama belt of the deceiver wishing to be a mageblood, youre doing better than you think
Echo is offensive shrine no?
From what I know echoing is in
Is pob bugged atm?
at least u have intimidate
didnt andrew say all shrines were possible to roll just insanely low chances?
bugged in what way
No
He said they are still deciding
wtf did i dream that
Acce is fire cos it s also defensive for running away 
oh lmao i missed that
for some reason it doesnt recognize mana spend
yea, I intimidate everyone by my sheer presence, you have a fancy influence :3
😭
Guys if u find new belt with accel or echoing, sell it to me for 1c thanks
wait so will we not know this until peolpe datamine it???
hard to tell which ones are offensive/defensive 😅 , most of them give offensive/defensive stats
Will they give us more gold drops this league? Last league was so hard to get enough for trading/kingsmarch/etc... as a casual player
Just buy gold carry lmao
you're playing the wrong game if you're a casual player 
delete kinsmarch
what errybody starting with?
RF
Bleed slams
ele hit
holy strike
as a casual player you probably shouldn't be trying to fully run kingsmarch if you also trade a lot. i didn't touch mappers the last couple of leagues
cremation
with the orbs yeah right? every map gets turned into gold
long necc supremacy
They didnt say acc is in or out and divine is is out
vaal orb brick, not dc
should i follow this build for flicker strike: https://poe.ninja/poe1/pob/7e7bc
or are there better alternatives?
cyclone of tumult?
As a casual player u can drop like 6div for almost 10mil gold and run mappers perma
Repeat when gold runs out
yup impale cyclone slayer
I think rather buff static strike beam damage, just put a projectile tag on the beam instead.
pain
ima try and do the carn tech but idk how it works even lmao
played during phrecia, its pretty rough
fuck it we ball
awh
autoexert one?
but.... SpinDiesel....
i'm not super casual but not a super hc player either and got my first mirror in phrecia 1.0 from a mapper, now i'm scared i'll miss another one if i don't do them 😭
i look rather bland
autoexert tech was immediately patched
What time does league start Eastern time zone?
idk it's the giga impale storage one
big hit, weapon swap to cyclone to eat the impales
oh i dont know that
THAT is a lie
Go to the website
Realms will go down at <t:1772812800:F>
Approximately when the patch will be up (approximately) at <t:1772815500:F> (12GB)
Anytime between patch and launch is when the queue will open and you can spam Log In button
Exactly when the queue will start moving and let people in <t:1772823600:F>
Torrent is already available for download, it only work with GGG client (not steam) check #poe1-news
time are displayed in your local timezone
I saw you!
but hey, u can just run axes anyways now with the void shockwave
https://youtu.be/gahvgSMDSHo @spice bison its this one
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Character fr...
12GB patch holy
yeeeerp
hoping it's not gonna be infinitely rare lmao
yeah... bland

you know you can drop those in maps too right? everything has an opportunity cost. So you make choices. I just think the idea of complaining that you can't do everything in the game without playing it heaps is a bit silly.
everything is doubled 😂
last patch was also 12gb
.-.?
24GB patch hhoollyy
48GB patch omg
chat is this the league where i move mainskill from Q to rightclick
If it's 12GB patch every league, how is the game not 200GB+ yet? Does it delete old data while installing new one?
500 cigarettes patch
sure, but i never got one in map in ~6k hours so 🤣 , got one from less than ~300 maps from the mappers 😅
stuff gets changed and stuff gets added. i was literally thinking of this too btw lmao
this is the league you move it to left alt
it does yeah, some files have to be redownloaded to change few kb in them
well if you did more than a map in 6k hours
like if its 12gb of a new patch, 6gb might be to update and replace existing stuff and the other 6gb for the new mechanics, assets, visuals, audio, etc
removes and modifies old data
adds some stuff too obv
well, that makes two of us, i've never seen a mirror full stop, like most players. Also only have 1/3 of your hours to be fair 😛
quin gameplay 1map/hour
which now in mirage is 1 map/2h
steam downloads a temporary file and then has to unpack it. the temp includes all the previous files with changes
and mostly assets
Also overwriting is a thing
yeah no i do lots of maps per hours, but was kinda disappointed in keepers, not a single divine drop in ~50 8mods t16 map was kinda demotivating
I guess it's basically the same as downloading a zip file for a patch, and unpacking and overwriting it into a folder
Just it does it automatically
kingsmarch mappers are much more likely to bring extremely valuable stuff than you are likely to get them to randomly drop
itt: all software follows the same rules 😂
The standalone version is different since that directly taps into the archive files
and it also takes 5x as much to update right?
Currency was doubled so might not be as bad now
hey guys, is the steam download available?
Realms will go down at <t:1772812800:F>
Approximately when the patch will be up (approximately) at <t:1772815500:F> (12GB)
Anytime between patch and launch is when the queue will open and you can spam Log In button
Exactly when the queue will start moving and let people in <t:1772823600:F>
Torrent is already available for download, it only work with GGG client (not steam) check #poe1-news
time are displayed in your local timezone
can't wait for everyone to learn about inflation after the currency doubling
Yeah because steam basically does a full integrity check every time lol
they didn't "double" anything
3h before release
IT IS SO FAR AWAY RAAA
yeah i went to sleep at 6am
They said so
but i have seen they already released the torrent file. I wonder why on steam arrive later
why i wake up 1pm
I would rather have inflation aka items being more expensive, but at least have currency in my stash to throw at items for rerolls
Or crafting
what no? i asked people with the standalone and they say standalone takes way longer than steam
they did say most currency is effectively doubled
they did say that they buffed ground loot but they took loot from the other parts of the game
steam doesnt always do a full verify after the update
Straight up buff for us ssf
they didnt 2x currency drops they moved weightings around. its not as simple as hurr durr double currency
I think it'll still be a net positive, sonce currency items have their own usage. Also wasn't it specifically about ground loot?
Mirrors were not doubled tho, so don't get ur hopes up
it's always like that always released ~24h before launch, for peoples with slow connection but it only works on GGG client
they fiddled with the weightings
"ground loot" is a very nebulous concept
I HOPE there is ground loot now tho
That kinda makes no sense but I guess that's possible lol
they lowered trash tier drops and put that weighting into currency. ground loot in terms of equipment might still be the same shit but for currency yeah you should find currency more often
could be servers
map loot not coming from mechanics, eg not strongboxes legion etc. mobs from ritual still count tho
ground loot = tink sounds from stuff that drops in addition to whatever i am currently target farming
If ground loot buff is not enough, community has to give feedback so they can buff it more
They said they are committed to fixing it until it feels good again
i think it was ben who said it, i asked "why standalone? any benefits" and he was like "taking twice as long to download patches" lol
sometime the standalone patch is up like 10 minutes after steam and often have downloading issues 😅
There isnt much more, although it may be noticable early mapping for bubblegum currencies, but div and higher value currencies remained unchanged
if you have slow internet you need the extra time to download the game before the update is released. and that is why you are choosing to do it via torrent. the content is still encrypted until the same time as the steam version anyway.
lots of juicing strategies that involve league content never cared about their specific rewards and were just increasing the total amount of rares to increase "ground loot"
Yeah because downloading patches that modify the archives should be way slower than directly tapping into them and only updating the required files
just have both standalone and steam installed
have you watched the interview? they said that by increasing ground loot they don't mean bubblegum
"just have both standalone and standalone installed"
edited damnit
I'm not even sure if it is a strict ssf buff because ssf likes league content rewards
Steam basically has no idea how the archive files are structured
they took from item weight and added more currency weight
They said div and higher value currencies will stay same, so same div/mirror drop rates etc
no?
if i wont need to run ulti for divs anymore coz enough of them will drop globaly it is
otherwise it aint
poe players have 0 reading or listening comprehension istg
i think like 80% of the changes were a ssf buff except for the tree nerf
Exalteds should be more common I think
I think mirrors are the same, super common ones are the same, but mid tier are increased
please watch the interview, it's more or less the first part
Poe players also don't watch every interview for some reason
they did say mirrors wont be dropping more
could you please translate this into interpretive dance for me, tia
exactly the opposite though
90% of us barely literate 
question: would you guys mule a hailrake quicksilver IF you also needed the starting gem from a different class (i.e., i need spec throw but I could just buy it after hillock)
they could quadruple mirror drops and you still won't get any
the only currencies that are not changed with the currencies buff are the "rarer ones", mirror, hinekora lock, (possibly fracturing orb), valdo boxes 🤔
Exalts are boosted beyond the currency drop rate increase, yeah
rather watch a clip of a video of someone else who watch it and start dooming off those comments 😂
they explicitly said its being kept at the same rate
only if also needed breaking the eggs or island support, otherwise no
have you read what i said?
i'll be surprised if the ground loot doubling doesn't include divs. that's such an obvious global dopamine boost
read
no
the misconception here is that ppl think "before dropped 1 exalt, means now i drop 2", no, it just means the weightings for the drops have been increased, not that WHEN you drop an exalt, it now drops 2
I think you're the only one thinking people were thinking that
thoughts on Necro KBoC vs Hiero KBoC
for leaguestart
Hope I'm not doing myself a disservice by not sending out boats. Really don't like that mechanic
Steam itself doesn't have any mechanism for preloading a patch, only separate branches and DLC/titles before first unlock.
if you wanted to be a negative nancy you could be smart about it
really? i thought people only mule up to tidal island for quicksilver, interesting
necro is faster early, hiero has better lategame prospects. if you dont like indigon go necro
yeah not getting a single divine drop in ~50ish 8 mods map in keepers was ..... pretty bad honestly, so i do hope they buffed them a little
yeah it means you are more """""""""""""LIKELY""""""""""""""" to drop them more often
Until it does
and just say that effective net worth would not change if everything drops twice as much
Also double currency is nothing compared to old quant/rarity modifiers such as historic modifier on alva or possessed mod, just to stimulate possessed was around 2000% increased quant with 4000% rarity or something like that and it was similar for historic modifiers (when new league mech arrived they had quant bonuses and they stayed in the game for long before ggg deleted it thats why its historic)
For boats u now have to spec into kingsmarch and mine in maps
No more free boats
yes, not that you will literally drop double currency, just that it's less likely to drop shit tier gear instead of currency
in the end it's technically doubled but they didnt just 2x currency drops
it was brutal in keepers and phrecia 2. phrecia 2 was my longest run from start to 1st raw div drop i've ever had i think
Nice
which is everything i can ask for honestly
Stop the boats 😛
i have no opinion on indigon since ive never played any wander/ builds that use indigon, what u would recommend?
seemed to me like you said "no?" to the person replying to you about higher value currencies like div/mirrors staying the same drop rates. I clarified that at least mirrors in particular are at the same rate
yeah same im so hype
Mappers are still free for all tho
I'm just gonna run mappers and nothing else in kingsmarch
i got lucky in phrecia 2 tbh, i had like 10+ div drop by the time i had my 1st in keepers... running pretty much the same strat
i prefer hiero
they removed getting items from other mechanics in mappers tho right? i didnt fully understand that part
why everyone have leaguestarter build but no league ender build
Keepers was rough, I did heist for my currency cus mapping was shit
andrew mentioned like they made items drop only from their mechanics right
coz we dont know shit yet about new gems/exceptionals/etctc
ah i had much better luck in keepers. goes to show how rough rngesus can be I spose.
That first divine drop grind is brutal. Basically can't do anything before that to make money haha
because we dont know what toys come with the update
i think dsoa champ should be pretty good for delving tbh
just go kf totems hiero into kboc
because my leaguestarter is also my league ender 🤣 (RF)
like its impossible to see if some new lategame builds are viable or no
also btw, i read that kboc got nerfed from some runegraft interaction, how big of a hit is that?
i don't think anyone is thinking of mirrors when they say "more currency drops"
Yeah u won't get crazy stuff from mappers anymore
need to use fork as support, so one less dmg support OR lategame imbue lvl1 fork on kboc and then its samey
They just do base map from what I gathered
Im stuck at work for league start rip me bozo
so are we to assume they have less random stuff and more like just raw currency and gear?
Thats rough, got weekend off at least?
gotcha, im assuming i use a guide from 3.27 since when i search 3.28 hiero kboc nothing new pops up
it's just a bit hard to make RF viable to do ubers but not impossible 🤷♂️
well good news for me, I misread the mirage launch date, and i'll have plenty of time before I go to work to start and get some playtime in
I definitely like the idea of more gcps, exalted, Jewelers and fusings but we'll see what happens
cat died, fish escaped your house, have to get a leg amputated, your house flew from a tornado, you got uncontrollable permanent diharrea.. so many excuses
biggest thing is we are apparently getting WAY more exalts/annuls than before
there's that new searing totem, looks pretty promising
thats huge if true
eat some chalk and go home early
or just do like me and "work from home" and do jackshit all day
Ben has pobs for pre indigon, idk what to do for campaign tho
Maybe that kf totems meme
im dying
So what do we get from mappers now? Just currencies?
It's a league starter, farm currency and go make an actual turbo build
I think ill have explosive diarrhea
exalts annuls regals and way less shards, right?
Currency and gear I think
i got a 10/10 kebab place i can recommend lmao
That's how it should be imo. Right now dropping an exalted in this game feels like wasting my rng since divs had the same rates, or used to anyway
For that 1 time uber kill for rf its still possible u just need sit there for 10 min each boss
speaking of food do yall genuinely meal prep for the weekend?
yeah regals too iirc
sure, everytime i do that i end up going back to my RF because the other build i picked suck 🤣 , or i just do a boss killer to do ubers
You'll be fashionably late when the smol bugs have been shaken out.
do you not like order food and shit?
i do, i see more divs than exalts in poe1 lmao
late for the free 5x mageblood bug sadge
if you have a lunch room, nick a tray full of ice cubes and throw them in the toilet while yelling WOOOAHHHHHhh then tell people you're going home
yeah buffing their drop-rate woulda made sense to do as soon as they swapped divine/exalt uses a while back
that's the spirit
Side room in campaign act7 trust
good that theyre doing it now though
the new areas? shit i completely forgot about that
Gonna make clusters a lot more comfy now that these won't require hours of harbs for exalts
man this league is so fucking pog
Just prayge annuls have sane drop rate too
wait what does that achieve
mimicks a bunch of logs falling from your ass?
oooooh
Someone will have misread the brief and instead of landmark rooms they're landmine booms.
Man dropping a mirror one day would be nice, they seem unobtainable lol
There was a time when annuls was 1:2d in poe2, if the drop rate is low then it will be same in poe1, it will also inflate scours then
they say that's 7 years bad luck
"upset tummy" is a pretty good one for sudden convenient sickness
they put the dyslexic engineer in charge of new content lmao
time for sanctumy jail
i so cant decide on a build man fml
i dont even know what mechanic to farm
i got good at identifying beasts and i like expedition but i dont think these 2 will be great for mirages
blight, legion sounds more like better options no?
is there a list with mechanics that will work in mirages or do we not know/all work?
I have played since beta and never seen a mirror rip me
?????
i dont even want to drop a mirror lol, nobody cares about them on hc until like 3 weeks in
much rather get a mageblood or defiance or smth
Go delve, fossils can only drop in delve now
bro one day i told my boss "hey im gonna be leaving early today but ill compensate after" and i legit told her "eh i just went skateboarding for a bit" lmao
die and migrate to softcore
Sell the shovels during a gold rush 👍
neverrr
what about beginning of maps? im thinking boxes / harvest / jun?
i've done that before my only problem with that is if you decide to do a diff mechanic you end up having to start your atlas from scratch or atleast thats how I did it in the past
just delve, ignore the game
I mean personal judgement re: most sensible approach to sudden need for time off should be applied. if your boss is a good'un, probs no need to fake it
Yes chronic gaming addiction symphtoms
prob harvest
kinetic fusillade totem suited for delve? Or will i get my ass kicked
nah doubtful
@karmic gust I have a question for elehit penance: "Wep swap from corrupting fever to disable it when fightning bosses. click it to last hit boss, click it for clearing"
Wdym by this, why do we have to turn off corrupting fever for boss?
And by weapon swap, do we carry 2 paradoxical then?
exactly man im so blessed i could literally tell her "yo im just... not gonna work today sorry i cant. all my projects are dealt with" and she wouldnt blink twice. im so lucky
traumastacking delve meta? lmao
no offence to delve/bestiary enjoyers, but that shit is boring as fuck
that'd be a good reason for me to eventually get pushed out from work but then
What time is download usually up? 2 hours before release?
I go straight into delve this league, only mapping to refuel delve
Delve is so good for raw currency drops, and if u get a "minions are aggressive" ring u can already start planning your next build
I don't live in somewhere like germany that people take off days for their toes hurting xdd
bestiary yeah, delve is pretty fun dude, imo. its better than what i initially thought, granted i never deep delved
delve gives me headaches from the overbearing bright blue
Beast farming is killed, 1 less jackpot beast so its worthless now
duly noted. harvest / delve / jun then i decide
bestiary is fun, its very quick space and feels like a puzzle
rush through map -> identify valuable beasts during your driveby which sometimes is like 1 second -> kill for profit
worst part is einhar taking 10years to catch something
I need sunglasses for that shit
Don't need to deep delve, just run floors 250-350 and chill
when does patching begin?
"chat im in delve. im gonna start saying slurs!" 😂😂😂
or is it already out?
its a quin quote chat
??? wdym?? it still exists tho every other valuable beast got drops boosted
Delve is fun if you're just there to have fun in the dark. it can be pretty pain if you're only there if you need something specific.
How do I get my friends in this game without me overwhelming them
i think ppl dont know u can run ahead of the cart
Blight enjoyer 🫡
dont pester them for free stuff 
Gem rerolling option is removed, so a potential jackpot drop is 1c now no one needs it
that being said fossils will probably be more expensive now
They will be
i think let them play campaign blind, just nudge them into the right direction and let them find their own fun?
No fossils outside of delve
did that once and it worked, the person is still playing the game occasionally
It does get better the deeper you go tho
delve is pain in ssf because you go "oh I need a basic ass fossil, time to pay the delve to 300 entry tax"
Magebloods? Lmao
Like chaining back to back high cost fossils
phys paradoxicas are like dirt cheap week 1 right
But the path to depth 300+ is annoying
have to see how good the tree is? but even then yeah more expensive for weapon crafting
dont rush their first playthrough i think
even if it takes 72hrs to reach act10
not everyone has sugar daddies zore
Delve is like t1 to t16 map progression, until like 500 ur not even delving for real
Lots of simps out there
delves cap at t11
WAIT wrong game
Delve caps at whatever you fuckin need for loot anyways
lmao
or integer limit
As soon as you need it you'll find less of it trust
erm delve is infinite
delve caps at 3rd hollow fossile
finding the walls in delve is fun
Give them super ez build guide to follow, don't turbo minmax their first time, but help them fix issues when they run into them, like capping resistances in act 5 or something
I sold like 90 of em last league so cant be that
i like it, i just feel like i dont interact with the rest of the game - at all -
"infinite"
i ain't even going to bother, i am investing in Kalguur ore, altars (probably eater) and general mapping, oh and ensuring ritual spawns for those juicy mobs
difficulty stops scaling at like 6k, rock bottom is at what 60kish
Difficulty increases along with drops, so at like 5k delve ur dealing with 2b hp monsters, at 50k delve not even 5b dps build can do it fast
drops stop scaling when at like 1k?
then why are you that deep in lmao
Only about 1 person ever makes it that deep anyways
that sulphite gas
Tho if ur name is not Steve ur not reaching end of delve
someone has to look for steve
65665 or soemthing
Not even steve does, need special build for it
Steve reached it
ritual seems JUIIIIICYYYYY for mirage. getting 1 giga juiced ritual sounds so fun
There's no difference between 6k and 60k, no?
difficulty stops scaling at 6k
imo if you've entered delve, you've already hit rock bottom 
Yep but u cant build that character anymore, its legacy gear
yeah but beside the invitations the ritual offerings seem bad
16bit unsigned integer moment
Isn't it out yet?
There's always builds to choose from lol
we dont know yet?
Only one is the best obv
so any skills i should look towards working with guys? I like tankier builds like rf, slayer ls, necro type stuff with you know, cappedblock or glancing etc
i think the only "squishier" build i liked was deaths oath with caustic arrow but they killed toxic sewers
i also liked vortex ignite! god i loved that one
where can I get a similar "feel" of these skills? i like the hit big and prolif for clear stuff aswell but not pathfinder, we dont touch ranger 
Bro theres like 4.5 hours left
zenith is fundamentally still samey
Ur too early go back to bed
go on settings and check
Why do Steve need to go that deep anyway? 
they've always been bad, beside the 1 in a thousand divines or otherwise
Wdym 4.5?
7*
did johnny depth reach 65k?
Cus it's shit stain steve
ssshh
the need for steve
Thanks, didn't know about it
yep, correct number is 65536 or 2^16
He is asking for patch not release
<t:1772823640:R>
Realms will go down at <t:1772812800:F>
Approximately when the patch will be up (approximately) at <t:1772815500:F> (12GB)
Anytime between patch and launch is when the queue will open and you can spam Log In button
Exactly when the queue will start moving and let people in <t:1772823600:F>
Torrent is already available for download, it only work with GGG client (not steam) check #poe1-news
time are displayed in your local timezone
absurd crafting league and good build and he had time
Damn, so you can type the word separately but not together 
But like what's the goal? He already broke record
Patch up in 4 hours 33 minutes
what league was that
and he went mfa right
necro
I don't think he will go that deep anymore
@split maple when do I send my 50m shipment for science
He just delving for the love of the game
I was asking for PoB update, hence the screenshot
of crops? asap
He does it for the approbation of global
why? asap?
Good thing ggg changed it so target farming mirror shards no longer possible without actually doing the mechanic
It's now ores for currency right ? What do crops do now?
he always gets a cheer when a new depth comes up
steve is a degen
coz no more currencies from crop ships once patch drops
People always cheering and poggging with every depth
our degen tho
crops are equipment now
So wholesome
i was gonna say lmao i remember him popping off in phrecia 2.0
yea but youre realistically not going to get one before the patch rolls out
idc about standard currency
we love him
then send a bunch of 4milers once patch drops and count tattoos
hmm, ichimonji is supposedly a tier 4 unique, but I've like never seen it drop. is it hidden on most neversink filters?
but ive been noticing since poe 2 start
yea
toucans, steve delves, and some more other old memes
ayay
word, I'll have to unhide it
people lose their shit in globals
and non stop flame/piss their pants when they happen
foulborn moonbender in the offhand for ambi is giga cancer
o welly
Got the one reddit was talking about by opting into weekly beta thing. I was curious why I didn't have the update 🙂
settlers did things to people
cant get new gems in without full info
That's okay
tree should be up to date
settlers got me into this game
PoB is made by players who don't have GGG inside info who'd most likely wanna push first days of league. It's impressive we get it as early as we do imo
other than that idk what else you might need
it's not rare tbh, u got ⬛ by filter
it's in the same category as HC ladder deaths imo. Fs in chat. Stains in delve.
my condolences
Are they still trying to find a way to bring mercs back into core without making them powercreep? Gotta say ever since Diablo whatever, always loved the idea of a merc
@split maple thats my resources, do I send 4m of crops or bars first since I forgot what does what now
soon ™
just like petal buffs
i Just Wonder Why They arent Start Patching Early ??? its not start (Move) if you can enter game (While server closed 🙂 ) Some People Have poor İnternet speed, Some Bussy When announced Etc. Etc. PLs Hype This message Ty.
Datamining
i couldnt be happier lmao all im thinking is how i didnt start playing this game earlier
was wasting my time bouncing between apex and league
if your internet is slow you can use the torrent
casue the moment we have patch data, we can datamine all the content
rn bars is random crapo, ores are currency. both in addition give tats and runegrafts depending on port - with 3.28 what tats you get will be weighted by port iirc, maybe handy to test for that
idk
I wish i got Some Bussy When Announced
Wheres my bussy
Wait nvm, they dont release full patch
at least you could learn a lot in one year of settlers
for runegrafts there is no cap rn for value, while tatos cap out at 4m
O_o
Even patching late, the data mining is done before queue
this dude is legacy and has no progfession
you can data mine a good chunk from the steam patch
yeah bout that
for last few leagues now
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@gentle chasm Why i download Whole Game its in Single File 🙂
yea but you get the ACTUAL PATCH
when realms go down
I mean the steam patch
it gets datamined before servers come up
because thats how the game works
Tbf he is a chudzik what do u expect
I did some practice runs with absolution and so far I have to say it's quite comfy and the buffs will make it even better. I guess I'll even level with holy strike instead magma and fire totem. It looked like ZiggyD had it quite easy in his test play.
I'm wondering, might it even be an idea to run smite or something aside absolution to put even a more dmg out? I mean, the sentinals will cast absolution by them self and with spell echo it should be quite a good aoe output. But a smite with volley could also bring abit more to the table? Or should I even consider looking for a single target spell aside absolution?
GET DOWN
Np bro what u startin
PRESIDENT IM HIT
i am cureently busy scratchin my balls and they aint deliverin
are we there yet ?
we have to put you down
i have no fkin idea

yeah lol i didnt know leagues were supposed to be so frequent cause i started on the biggest fucking league ever lmao
can i refer to u for a starter
6 hours++
Why i close My intenet Capacty while my Childs Homework over net ?@gentle chasm This isnt good For a user GGG is provider and They TRy to make More way not users
😔
+++++++
can i keep the skin ?
Absolution does fine on its own and smite will have accuracy problems if ur running it on a spell build
deathbeam been useless … he aint even pob pf nor poison anymore
1000 years of settlers. that's what it felt like. still does a little on account of it hanging around :I
You will be remembered.
for gods sake just use a translator
Db is playing the build i started with last league
I know why they do it but I hate that reliquarian is rigged making you choose the top or bottom section
oh ya, time to unequip the cosmestics for new league character 
certified dad gamer cant wait to be a bit late on league starts
damn how the mighty have fallen
Wait till you realize chat mods have no influence nor need to report other peoples opinions to GGG
db turned into a copycat
Well
settlers be like
yeah hes just replying to me
He's playing the same offensive setup
The defenses are the new khatal amulet to power pathfinder defenses
On assassin
anyone will play new league today?
@gentle chasm pls fix gaem, ThanKs and Please
Which sounds nice
mana miner right?
no we are standard players
does anyone know if using reshade will get you banned? on poe1
🥀 a few years ago it was 4 leagues per year, now its only 3
ooo o.O
i c i c
Reassuring I'm planning to do something somewhat similar to deathbeam, even if I couldn't park on a straight road
technically it's 6 cause of poe 2 leagues ayoooo
what are u starting
(i jest)
ops
Consecrated path
Poe2 doesnt count
thats a shitty game, doenst count
