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wintry lily
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there's very few miner builds that'd clear better than exsang rn anyways

echo ledge
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Oh yeah, thats true, i like doing all content tho, and this looks much stronger and faster to get into uber tier damage wise with no items

silver linden
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i change my pob lacerate occultist is looking a lot better

echo ledge
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So was wondering if people would be instantly 'play GCF, MUCH BETTER OVERALL!' but doesnt seem that way 😂

rocky glade
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Oh yeah I wonder what are the new secrets in the campaign

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Like can we expect some hidden area that gives +1 skill point

forest veldt
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Do faceted fossil suffixes for +level affect eclipse support? Is it considered a socketed str/dex/int gem, or is it none of the above?

half stream
lucid gale
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༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ Mod crew TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

forest veldt
half stream
crystal talon
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yuzu, taker of nitro emotes, enforcer of slowmode

cobalt blade
silver linden
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what are the chances Lacerate of butchering will be on trade tomorrow on pc 100% but console is a whole other thing

cobalt blade
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glyphic/faceted/fundamental +2 aura +1 int etc

analog shoal
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nothing seems changed in my plans, league start summon reaper into reaper spectres tomorrow vanity

forest veldt
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I'm thinking more for skills like reap that you can break the hell out of if you link empower + eclipse in a +1 str body, but yea helms will also be nuts

cobalt blade
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thing is for chest you can go for influenced ones

worldly bridge
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i think im just gonna start ele hit slayer

cobalt blade
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or just a diallas

worldly bridge
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i want something safe

silver linden
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trust

worldly bridge
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no

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i barely know what i want to reroll into

mint cradle
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does anyone know when path of building gets updated

onyx adder
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pob is updated, u got new tree

sour wadi
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POB

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POB OF BUILDING

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we are checking for updates

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a community fork would be really gross, ngl.

lucid gale
mint cradle
burnt void
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morning 🙂

where you guys at in term of league starter right now? I already switched 4 times and I guess that will continue until the mirage is live 🤣 currently its abour bleed alam vs absolution.

lucid gale
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Haven't even started picking a league starter.

cobalt blade
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probably trans shock nova archmage since looks fun

opal ingot
cobalt blade
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but not completely decided

sour wadi
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You will be glad to hear that I have picked a league starter.

lucid gale
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~11h until patch, 14h until launch. Pleeeenty of time, most spent sleeping.

stoic shore
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Spin the wheel

lucid gale
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I like my eyes, thank you.

burnt void
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yeah, maybe wheel spining might be a good idea 🤣

blazing nymph
burnt void
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and in the end maybe a coin flip...

crystal talon
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I think I do some generic sabo stuff until I get a funni exceptional gem for triggerbots devilish

sour wadi
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do the opposite of fubgum

burnt void
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I watched ziggyd mirage earoy hands on, and I have fo admit the templar has some ql starter tools now, I mean holy strike looks good

sour wadi
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I am hoping that a holy crusader archetype is meta

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but i wont start it

wintry lily
silver linden
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i have the best league starter

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hands down never heard of it before either

mint cradle
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i might try totems this league

silver linden
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holy flame just got buffed

hexed mountain
tight plinth
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was it in the ziggy video?

hexed mountain
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and i'm pretty sure people are sleeping on animate guardian of smiting as secondary link , its a Lot of damage and utility without having to take care of it

hexed mountain
tight plinth
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was is the trans or was it just normal static?

hexed mountain
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in trade its evven nicer since you can grab for 1c the 50% reduced xp mace and have him set for damage till reds

worldly bridge
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he uysed transfig

onyx adder
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it was is the trans

tight plinth
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oh its at the end

worldly bridge
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said it was basically melee arc

burnt void
worldly bridge
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adding shockwave made it kinda giga

onyx adder
hexed mountain
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i think shockwave is bait tbh

onyx adder
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idk its a fuck ton of damage

hexed mountain
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with so much arc coverage

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unless you use two skills then it ups the value

onyx adder
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i dont even care about it from a clear perspective although im sure it will help

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it just hits like a bus

hexed mountain
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technically you could 2H and static strike (normal) with shockwave in weapon and trans static in chest with shockwave and get much better shockwave value

teal goblet
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How hyped is this league compared to previous leagues

hexed mountain
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yes

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the new gems isnt really the big hype its the game's changes

teal goblet
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What changes are the most hyped

restive dome
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nah, holy sweep was pretty bad

hexed mountain
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atlas rework , woke gem rework

tight plinth
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the range is pretty far for 1 stack marauderthinking

hexed mountain
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astrolabes

blissful zodiac
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I was gonna do holy sweep

teal goblet
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What is the gem rework, you mean imbued gems?

silver linden
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tbh for me secrets of the atlas was more hype but thats because it was a year since settlers

blissful zodiac
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then I saw it lost half of the damage and axe

restive dome
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honestly, this patch has so much new content its gonna be fun

opaque sphinx
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we need a lore discord

crystal talon
blissful zodiac
crystal talon
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I know

steady elk
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Are we getting a tab sale this weekend?

blissful zodiac
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next week

steady elk
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Reeeee

cobalt blade
blazing nymph
worldly bridge
cobalt blade
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but im not sure if itll work with the gathering lightning chains

steady elk
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I wonder if we will need the map tab after they rework it

tight plinth
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oh damn gathering light double hits Pogott

cobalt blade
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i dont think it does

hexed mountain
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i think holy sweep isnt too good but is probably a decent build later with a lot of AoE because of the holy hammers not spreading with inc AoE allowing overlaps

blissful zodiac
steady elk
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So far I'm planning to buy currency, premium upgrade. Wondering whether I should include a map one too

tranquil umbra
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THE NIGHT BEFORE POE 3.28

worldly bridge
blissful zodiac
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nu uh

worldly bridge
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it didnt lose damage though

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so like

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🤷‍♀️

heady cliff
worldly bridge
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even if you count "losing axes" as losing damage

tranquil umbra
rough silo
cobalt blade
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the actual poe site does too

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lol

steady elk
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Appreciate it

cobalt blade
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you just add a week to launch

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:D

blissful zodiac
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it lost like a good 200 and something dmg effectiveness which is unfortunate

cobalt blade
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every time consistently

hard cliff
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if you die in Mirage zone does it end?

rough silo
tranquil umbra
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the mirage of a good game falls apart

blazing nymph
rough silo
stark badger
rough silo
stark badger
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did I stutter

tranquil umbra
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cowardly design choice to make the league mechanic be easy to do?

rocky glade
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You little shit kek

tough cove
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i mean i would love channel/cast while moving and wasd

rocky glade
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Wait wrong person

tight plinth
stark badger
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it's more money for me if I have an advantage over the 6 portal defense babies

steady elk
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Besides currency, map and premium upgrade, do I need any other tabs?

tranquil umbra
split maple
tough cove
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hardcores right there for you

mental violet
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poedb says the new timeless jewel is off an expedition boss?

tranquil umbra
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what.

cobalt blade
steady elk
stark badger
split maple
steel mural
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leveling filterblade for minions are hiding magic body 3 link blue on act 1, idk how to change that, why so much rules fckkkk

cobalt blade
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its just saying its olroth related since expe poedb literally cant datamine anything rn

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also yeah that is poe2

split maple
rough silo
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It probably comes from Expedition inside Mirage in some way

tranquil umbra
cobalt blade
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its either expe or legion in a mirage and id lean more towards legion

steady elk
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Oh is that what fragments are? Noted I'll add that into the list

tight plinth
# cobalt blade from what i can tell watching it the lightnings not dealing extra on ST and you ...

https://youtu.be/GZl2-PtK3jY?si=n2BaayHDG0xaoxcE&t=1745 slow down the video to 0.25, watch before the rare dies, there were 2 instances of damage, its hp drops twice

Hands on preview of 3.28 MIRAGE and the new and reworked Holy Warrior Templar skills and supports. Holy Strike, Holy Hammers, HOLY SWEEP & much more tested through PoE's new Mirage challenge league!

TWITCH: https://www.twitch.tv/ziggydlive/
BSKY: https://bsky.app/profile/ziggyd.bsky.social
TWITTER: https://x.com/ZiggyDStarcraft

Thanks to Grind...

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cobalt blade
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hes running shockwave

stark badger
split maple
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Very handy tab

steady elk
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Cool ty

hexed mountain
steady elk
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So map, currency, prem upgrade and fragments

split maple
cobalt blade
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^

hexed mountain
blazing nymph
tranquil umbra
split maple
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So has to be either incubator or Legion in mirage drop

hexed mountain
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its weird to drop a timeless raw in maps

steady elk
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I think we're good.

rough silo
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Dont we have all new item names from the lootfilter?
Do we have other candidates for Mirage Legion or Mirage Expedition?

tight plinth
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oh shockwave true marauderthinking

split maple
tranquil umbra
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ig when they said mechanics are empowered they meant drop rates also get manipulated

cobalt blade
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you can see the damage happpen the moment shockwave procs

hexed mountain
cobalt blade
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so im prretty sure its just not multi hitting

lethal berry
simple stag
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what does mirage expedition give

cobalt blade
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we dont know

cobalt blade
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just really fucking rare

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ive only had it happen once

hexed mountain
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can still hydrosphere gaming for a bonus hit every few hits marauderthinking

split maple
# hexed mountain never seen

"Lethal Pride has restrictions on where or how it can drop. It cannot be chanced. Can drop from the Karui legion in the Domain of Timeless Conflict. Extremely rarely drops from Queen Hyrri Ngamaku in zones"

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Never hapened to me too

hexed mountain
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extremely rare or bug? kek

cobalt blade
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it legit feels rarer than t0 drops running legion

onyx adder
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ive heard that people say this has happened but never seen it on stream or personally

tight plinth
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still, the gathering thing is a buff which you can maintain on a separate faster hitting link, then do a 6l gen cry marauderthinking

onyx adder
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it must be super fucking rare if its not just a bug

hexed mountain
toxic pier
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What build should i go if i wanna chill farm expedition and delve?

split maple
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Tbf is anyone running Legion using generals scarbs? Without them its mostly rare juicing no

hexed mountain
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normal static strike with the buff looks kinda neat too tbh , like ambush gaming

split maple
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But yea I could buy that being a bug

lethal berry
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They still show up pretty commonly even without the scarab

cobalt blade
tight plinth
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4 seconds is bit short though and they all have separate times

tranquil umbra
lethal berry
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So it’s gotta be like 0.01% chance or something

cobalt blade
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generals scarab just isnt ran

stark badger
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haven't done legion since I went back to trade but consensus is the generals scarab was meh

toxic pier
hexed mountain
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also ziggy had very low gathering stacks , it could really get much crazier

split maple
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Don't rly need much of build for the first

tight plinth
cobalt blade
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like 70-80k ele max 20k phys max is more than fine there imo

hexed mountain
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he had no splash but might have clipped two mobs

cobalt blade
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chaos max idk though usually had ci by that point

hexed mountain
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he was running WED and ruthless in red gems

tight plinth
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yeah i meant the built in splash of strike skills

hexed mountain
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ruthless in act 8 kek

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ziggy needs to up his game

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imagine how much more data we'd have if jung did the testing UHM

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(and skill nerfed)

stark badger
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ruthless in act 8 in case he wanted to go back to holy strike because jesus christ that thing has no good supports

hexed mountain
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i mean

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it doesnt work on minions

stark badger
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SHIT

tight plinth
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oh the buff is a skill effect duration yes?

hexed mountain
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yes

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likely to be possible to extend with runegraft too

stark badger
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wait it should work on minions

tight plinth
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how much can you get realistically

hexed mountain
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which is massive

tight plinth
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100%?

hexed mountain
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without trolling the build... probably around 100% more duration from runegraft and one wheel + mastery

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on a J U G G with trauma stacking you can probably justify more duration

cobalt blade
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idt you bother with mastery

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would personally impossible escape magebane for dura wheel over pathing to it

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or the other one at necromantic aegis

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way too much pathing to justify imo

hexed mountain
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cries in SSF another league of IE magebane being OP

onyx adder
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Its always op if u want duration

cobalt blade
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in ssf i dont think you bother either

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just anoint

onyx adder
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That wheel is aids

cobalt blade
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and use the anoint belt to get the o ther one

hexed mountain
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yeah but i mean KF is meta so OP already

crystal talon
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wait how do the vaal orbs in poe2 work? can they modify mods that don't have a roll range on unqiue items?

tight plinth
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8 seconds is still rough to main 12 charges marauderthinking

hexed mountain
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yeah probably you can annoint both 25% duration

tranquil umbra
hexed mountain
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impossible escape

onyx adder
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Oh yea i can get 2 anoints thats so much better than shitty earlyleague ssf belt options

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Gas

tranquil umbra
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ah yeah

hard cliff
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Anyone need a new league hug of luck?

🤗

hexed mountain
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shame there's no good reduced duration annoint after the first one

tranquil umbra
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what would I even get as a 2nd anoint on kf

hexed mountain
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hasty demise for 10% notLikeThis

grand flint
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is herald stacking pbod stil good?

final owl
split maple
crystal talon
split maple
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Needs some pobing to compensate but hive should still have good builds

tight plinth
tranquil umbra
split maple
hexed mountain
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lowkey double annoint you can do the funny double annoint the disciple nodes for +1 min frenzy/endu and generation on builds that are on top of the tree

split maple
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Like main things are hive and herald tattoos, other stuff can be whatever

full kraken
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still have no idea what I wanna play but poison bv guardian looks kinda fun

surreal musk
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any phys spell yeah reap would work if pbod isnt good

split maple
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Can even do nonphys, eri tried like 20 spells on hers

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Or even nonspell, there was funny fulcrum cyclone version

full kraken
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whats our vibes on HoAg guardian for delving, I really like delving with any build that has:

  1. lots of LGoH
  2. cyclone
  3. decent movespeed

As this makes delving really smooth (LGoH still procs and heals you when you cyclone through packs in the darkness even though they cant be killed)

onyx adder
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Oh

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Yes it can

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The 1.22 is 1.22 of the value its not 1.22 of the roll range

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Everything fun in poe1 is unscalable tho

hexed mountain
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surely they will limit the mods that works with it tho

crystal talon
tight plinth
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wait so if i do breach hives, i can get a second set of walls in mirage? Pogott

zealous flax
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decided to do bows, anyone got better levleing poe than fubgooners?

cobalt blade
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shako isnt unscalable

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so my hope is thats a viable target

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but if it divines like in 2 kek

split maple
surreal musk
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does this item also divine the item randomly when u use it or does it keep the divine

cobalt blade
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idt we know

zealous flax
hexed mountain
cobalt blade
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level 40 impending doom

split maple
zealous flax
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leveling with bow is painful

hexed mountain
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inb4 it divines and changes the mod and you get level 40 chance to flee

tight plinth
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what we talking about?

tranquil umbra
split maple
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The weird vaal

hexed mountain
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we coping about the new vaal

odd fox
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why do we want the enemies to flee?

tight plinth
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oh anyone have a screenshot?

zealous flax
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ooh pconq

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i can swap to bows after

cobalt blade
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does the poe2 vaal orb

tight plinth
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ah

split maple
cobalt blade
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for unique mod .78-1.22x

tight plinth
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das crazy

pliant hamlet
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that's our assumption, isn't it?

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we don't actually know the range

cobalt blade
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thats the range in 2

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so its just assumed to be the same

soft perch
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depends if it says unscalable

cobalt blade
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maybe they went off the rails and its fucking 2x Pogott

split maple
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This league is rly assumption heavy 😄

cobalt blade
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honestly

pliant hamlet
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true lol

cobalt blade
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a good thing

soft perch
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man editing item filters is driving me insane

tight plinth
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cant wait for 1200% facebreaker Pogott

blazing nymph
cobalt blade
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means theres a bunch of interesting things to be excited for

split maple
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Like we don't know shit bout some skills, currencies, astrolabes, gems etc etc

split maple
cobalt blade
hexed mountain
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90% loreweave surely

cobalt blade
hexed mountain
soft perch
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these levelling filters are pretty ass specifically for ele hit levelling

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and im too stupid to know how to edit them

thick goblet
hexed mountain
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lowkey doppelganger isnt unscalable , 48% less phys and chaos Pogott

silver sandal
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Does the standard change means that I can just do a single t16 map and be done with it?

silver sandal
finite quail
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this is the exact same system as before

pliant hamlet
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Enmity embrace less less fire res

finite quail
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happens every league

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you do one t16 in std and complete it all

pulsar vault
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F I can't sleep :c, league start hype too big

split maple
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If it divines the item gonna be rly ass for Grace of goddess

finite quail
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provided you completed the atlas before

noble sleet
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How hyped are yall for the new league?

finite quail
hexed mountain
finite quail
split maple
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Zore I sleept like 4hours

full kraken
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what bloodline would you take as hoag guardian? lycia? which... sucks cuz I haaaaate clearing lycia

pliant hamlet
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does hoag need a bloodline...?

opal ingot
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swapped out one of my switches. how did it get bad so fast wtf

cobalt blade
pulsar vault
fathom fjord
tight plinth
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lycia if you doing low life memes

cobalt blade
full kraken
hexed mountain
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why would youi be on guardian to HoA

cobalt blade
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and i think previously youd sometimes not get bonus for maps youve never done in any league

soft perch
pliant hamlet
fathom fjord
tranquil sedge
soft perch
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also it has good progression for what i wanna play

tranquil sedge
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you'll just get a perfect divine grace first go

soft perch
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which is glad reave

tranquil sedge
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and hit a perfect multiplier too

full kraken
split maple
hexed mountain
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no but i mean what you getting from guardian

cobalt blade
hexed mountain
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except 25/25 block conditionally

full kraken
cobalt blade
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and natural over qual drop from maven

pliant hamlet
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wait what, 99% block chance from guardian?

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how?

full kraken
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oh derp

hexed mountain
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arent you just better off glad

full kraken
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sorry not guardian lololol

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gladiator yeah thats what I meant

heady cliff
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journey tattoo?

hexed mountain
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aight

tight plinth
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if you have extra gem slots to spare, get the no extra damage from if you got no gems in gloves

heady cliff
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arent those the rare ones?

pliant hamlet
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take war of attrition

soft perch
pliant hamlet
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your dps is unironically low enough for it

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or are you going poison?

split maple
rancid dove
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Is there a way to turn curses into a aura so I can spam detonate Hexblast?

pliant hamlet
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nvm war of attrition has ailments

split maple
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Yea that's gonna be awfuly rare

full kraken
hexed mountain
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do you need flasks on HoA?

pliant hamlet
noble sleet
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Ohh man all I care about is that shrine belt lmao. I hope echo is still on there and untouched

hexed mountain
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if not you could +1 ring for another herald of agony ring

warm oar
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anyone know reasoning for taking mistress of sacrifice over like mindless aggression as first ascendancy node for absolution leveling (balormage guide)? Seems like more damage would be better than the offering thing but idk much about absolution

pliant hamlet
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it's literally designed for low dps builds like hoag

full kraken
pliant hamlet
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I honestly always thought it was a global debuff lol

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til

tight plinth
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could get the bleed pops, you apply bleed, hoag pops them

full kraken
hexed mountain
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sounds good

full kraken
tight plinth
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sadge

hexed mountain
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could use gloves?

tight plinth
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gravebind memes?

hexed mountain
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to make them count as yours

full kraken
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I can take %life and block chance small passives if I go nameless

fathom fjord
pliant hamlet
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gravebind area is way too tiny

full kraken
hexed mountain
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yeah life and block is better than nothing

pliant hamlet
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Unless you're wanting to spend 8 minutes per map

full kraken
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its not awful for 2 points leftover

pliant hamlet
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you won't be in gravebind range 99% of the time

full kraken
tight plinth
cobalt blade
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even if your minion inflicts it

tight plinth
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but i took lycia profane ground

soft perch
hexed mountain
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could also do that

cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
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oh yeah, this rework is a MASSIVE buff to earthbreaker

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I didn't think about that

stark badger
pliant hamlet
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it's gonna take the 2.5s to like .7s?

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melee totems might actually be playable lol

tight plinth
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yuge

cobalt blade
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what rework ?

tight plinth
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that groundslam pob doesnt look half bad

pliant hamlet
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the buff to totems

hexed mountain
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consecrated path earthbreaker marauderthinking

pliant hamlet
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the real problem with melee totems is the 10 fucking hour start up time of melee totems

tight plinth
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the thing that make them arm faster i think

cobalt blade
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oh the emerge change

fathom fjord
stark badger
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they nerfed the base emerge time to make up for it being improvable through stats right

cobalt blade
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only for RAT

lucid kiln
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how long will mirage league last

pliant hamlet
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They only nerfed RAT

stark badger
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ah

tight plinth
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whats rat?

cobalt blade
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would be real funny if they forgot dawnstrider exists tho

fathom fjord
cobalt blade
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ranged attack totem

pliant hamlet
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ranged attack totem

cobalt blade
tight plinth
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ffs these acronyms

thin leaf
tight plinth
pliant hamlet
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they're renamed to ballistas lol

pliant hamlet
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but RAT is best name

thin leaf
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RAT less friendly side is Remote Access Trojan

pliant hamlet
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remote admin tool?

cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
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corpo talk, race against time

warm oar
sleek barn
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sadly i'll be late for league start

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happy to see the hype though

fathom fjord
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I mean duration is great on absolution, and movement speed helps with campaign

sleek barn
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when it happens

fathom fjord
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You don't need any ascendancy to do campaign, so more move speed gets you through faster

cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
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I'd take the res tbh

nova minnow
#

i cant wait to play strand of exile

pliant hamlet
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makes the act 6 bump a lot easier

nova minnow
#

u played scion becoz girl

pliant hamlet
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back in my day we didn't have scion

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Game ended at piety kek

cobalt blade
nova minnow
#

back in my day, ziggyd was telling people how arrow rain ranger was good starter

grave vine
#

Ur 60?

pliant hamlet
#

back in my day Ziggy D mirrored a white item and vendored it

#

how times have changed ScuffThink

nova minnow
#

And kripp was talking about snapshotting with some 2h maul unique

stark badger
pliant hamlet
#

Bro parts of me really miss the old school meta but jesus was it not balanced

#

coc frost wall was not okay lol

cobalt blade
warm oar
cobalt blade
#

you literally only take it because you want 5 move speed

#

lol

finite quail
cobalt blade
#

and faster shield charge from the atk speed

fathom fjord
warm oar
#

yeah true

fathom fjord
#

Duration helps with that

warm oar
#

icic

nova minnow
stark badger
#

in older versions mindless aggression set up +2 levels at second lab but there's also less power behind it now

keen veldt
#

does anyone have a good aura bot guide my friend can look at? he is dead set on aura botting as early as possible in new leg

pliant hamlet
#

Commander of Darkness gives you damage, speed and res

finite quail
pliant hamlet
#

lv1 clarity, vitality, precision and a normal aura or 2 and you have 9-15% increased attack/cast speed and +30% ele resistances

keen veldt
#

ty, I’ll look into these

pliant hamlet
#

I always take commander of darkness as my first necro node

nova minnow
#

is reliquarian bad

pliant hamlet
#

It's niche

nova minnow
#

i dont see anything crazy strong

cobalt blade
#

if you play ruthless its good

uneven gust
#

alright guys absolution or deaths oath?

pliant hamlet
#

It's really really good if you want Astral Projector

warm oar
golden moat
#

why are all manaman pobs losing 30% of total damage with the new pob update?

cobalt blade
finite quail
warm oar
#

how shit is respeccing ascendancy nodes out of acts

pliant hamlet
#

Very easily

finite quail
#

actually no

golden moat
finite quail
#

int nerf affected es

nova minnow
finite quail
#

then idk

nova minnow
#

so maybe its easy

pliant hamlet
#

Just use gold lol

warm oar
#

yeah

pliant hamlet
#

you also have respec points from acts

tranquil sedge
finite quail
warm oar
#

i imagine once i have a trigger sword I will want mistress of sacrifice back

tranquil sedge
#

lemme peek

finite quail
#

when doing it with gold

#

or you could do it with regret orbs

#

past level 80 with gold it gets very expensive

pliant hamlet
#

regret orbs are a bit pricy day 1, just farm gold

warm oar
#

yeah

tranquil sedge
#

alright pob telling me to update it this gonna take a sec kek

pliant hamlet
#

the gold price doesn't really get bad until 92

#

after that it's pretty annoying

golden moat
warm oar
#

mmkay

finite quail
#

how bad it is is subjective

#

might be bad for you

pliant hamlet
#

you can easily farm up the gold to do any respecs you need prior to 92 without doing anything special

finite quail
#

for me its bad past 80 orso

#

Cause I dont like farming gold

tranquil sedge
#

wat
it said no updates available

cobalt blade
#

its beta branch

pliant hamlet
#

Once you go past 92, you have to go out of your way to farm gold to respec if you want to

finite quail
#

@sage falcon

tranquil sedge
#

o

tranquil sedge
warm oar
#

so for lab- the only change is that the craft that let you change a skill gem into a trans version of that same gem now lets you pick which trans version right? no change to the "change into a random t gem of same color" option right?

golden moat
cobalt blade
#

i figured it out

#

thats so funny

#

3.28 tree has this broken

#

for some reason

tranquil sedge
#

naca smart

cobalt blade
#

and i see why it was changed to also instead of just grants

thin leaf
#

Man all the totem skins look meh

cobalt blade
#

basically you didnt lose damage pob is just being dumb

pliant hamlet
tranquil sedge
thin leaf
cobalt blade
#

not a clue it shouldnt have any mechanical effect

golden moat
cobalt blade
#

prob just some weird clarification thing

pliant hamlet
#

i've used the book since it came out lol

golden moat
#

thx @cobalt blade

cobalt blade
#

np

pliant hamlet
#

ScuffThink How much damage do you need to kill ubers in the first 16s?

cobalt blade
#

wut

pliant hamlet
#

ya'know before the damage reduction wears off

cobalt blade
#

oh

#

its 7 ish seconds for dmg fall off

pliant hamlet
#

Oh? That's not that bad then

cobalt blade
#

and its roughly a bit over 1.3? bil to 1 shot from full

#

i think

pliant hamlet
#

ooo, 1b dps should be fine then?

cobalt blade
#

yea

pliant hamlet
#

that's not too hard to hit ScuffThink

#

ty

teal goblet
#

What will happen when neversink quits POE? Will we all just be without loot filters

final owl
#

the universe will collapse in on itself

pliant hamlet
cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
cobalt blade
#

ah so itll happen naturally since the boss isnt attacking

pliant hamlet
#

sooo kinda relient on them attacking

#

yeah lol

#

I really hope shrek isn't a dick this league

pliant hamlet
#

I really hope there's a mirage that just drops a ton of jewels ScuffThink

#

ima need a few hundred crimson jewels lol

grave vine
split maple
hexed mountain
#

i really want an energised armor jewel too

teal goblet
cobalt blade
#

no

golden moat
cobalt blade
#

Its just some other person doin filters

grave vine
#

Neversink is a honest cat loving german man, I trust him more

pliant hamlet
split maple
#

I needed like 5 stash tabs of cobalts this league for 20% healthy mind

#

Was annoying 😄

pliant hamlet
#

hahah i bet

empty bronze
tranquil sedge
opal ingot
#

rip my sweetings

pliant hamlet
#

F

grave vine
#

When he codes the last bit of code on his stream, I like to listen to him and try and copy his accent, i couldnt care less about the code

cobalt blade
tranquil sedge
#

it makes it look 'official' and thats super sketch no matter what the content is

cobalt blade
#

Its pretty normal to base your design off the game your making it for

golden moat
tranquil sedge
leaden quiver
keen veldt
#

if an aurabot is near totems is that helpful to the totems or do they generally need to stand on the totem user

cobalt blade
keen veldt
#

Ie is any value at all attained in general from an aurabot being near your totems

cobalt blade
#

but in general i dont rly see the problem with basing design off the game

full kraken
#

huh... pob doesnt show minion movement speed bonus still huh, interesting

golden moat
opal ingot
#

decide my next stash tab:
ultimatum, delirium, blight

tranquil sedge
#

then its fine

tranquil sedge
#

but still this is an interesting site

cobalt blade
#

show minion stats

#

move down to movement speed under other defence

#

yipee you have minion move speed

opal ingot
#

bro what are these wings

full kraken
#

This is... probably... league start viable to ramp into?

opal ingot
#

annihilator wings

full kraken
#

large cluster jewels, tbh, dont matter

medium cluster jewels only care about 1 notable that actually matters

opal ingot
#

damn it it's support pack wings 🥹

full kraken
#

and I assume hoag rings are dirt cheap cuz like, no one plays hoag

#

claw just needs LGoH and attack speed mostly

#

shield is dirt cheap

cobalt blade
#

hoag gets some level of play

full kraken
#

I dunno how expensive calamitous visions tends to be, but I assume its moderately common

full kraken
cobalt blade
#

ye prolly

gritty garnet
#

don't forget about the combined rings

cobalt blade
#

but thats not too bad of an amount of play

stable jasper
#

they have Json files yet?

full kraken
#

jesus wtf why is ashes big damage

cobalt blade
#

have you likenot read hoagqual

finite quail
full kraken
#

oh +max virulence nice

#

how much... max virulence you think can be sustained at 15 poisons/sec?

cobalt blade
#

are you doing golden rule

full kraken
#

yee

cobalt blade
#

doubles your virulence per sec

full kraken
#

yeah im including that

cobalt blade
#

ah ok jus making sure

full kraken
#

deadly combo, +1 hoag ring and golden rule enabler

cobalt blade
#

yeye

#

seems like you need around 30 stacks a second if im reading this old graph to stack above 40 right?

full kraken
#

that doesnt sound right

#

I think thats time to lose one stack

cobalt blade
#

yeah and every stack past 40 is gonna decay at 30ms

#

ish

full kraken
#

cuz its very easy to sustain 40 stacks

cobalt blade
#

like thats 30ms at any single stack count past 40

full kraken
#

mmm, interesting

stone tundra
#

Hroc or chains of command? Which one is better?

cobalt blade
noble sleet
#

Now what’s better; we gym or play poe 1 league instead?

full kraken
#

So, I need to inflict 31 stacks/sec to net positive?

cobalt blade
#

yea

stuck phoenix
full kraken
#

thats brutal, I need to get cyclone over 16 Aps then

gritty garnet
#

good thing it doesn't have to be all from one skill

safe patrol
#

Poe 1 league on treadmill

lucid gale
stuck phoenix
#

Or one of those stationary bikes

cobalt blade
gritty garnet
#

hedonistic loot treadmill

full kraken
#

Cyclone of Tumult actually gets there eh

gritty epoch
#

Everytime u die in game do one pushup

stuck phoenix
#

Hc players be like

noble sleet
cobalt blade
#

low key have considered getting a threadmill for gaming but would need a standing desk as well to make that comfortable

opal ingot
final owl
#

height adjustable desk is a solid investment imo

noble sleet
#

That’s so lazy 😂 walking on a treadmill while gaming but how fast you gonna set the treadmill?

final owl
#

it's less lazy than sitting

cobalt blade
#

huh

final owl
#

and sitting is inherently bad for you.

full kraken
cobalt blade
#

its just to keep your legs moving

stuck phoenix
#

How is exercising lazy smh

opal ingot
#

oh my settings

full kraken
#

its not much but its definitely a lot better than sitting

cobalt blade
noble sleet
#

Have you tried standing while gaming?

cobalt blade
stuck phoenix
full kraken
stuck phoenix
#

Pro gamer move

#

Certified

cobalt blade
#

holy

full kraken
#

its actually very budget, its only like a $200 treadmill and thats an ikea shelf thing thats super cheap

final owl
keen veldt
#

I like that you pinned this here

full kraken
#

the curtain cost more than the treadmill + shelf lolol

sly minnow
#

almost gone

cobalt blade
#

quick time to use all your missions so they dont goto waste

split maple
royal storm
# full kraken

upgrade: convert the treadmill a bit so that running on the belt turns a generator that keeps the PC powered

cobalt blade
#

then play hardcore

#

Move or die

full kraken
#

I actually havent tested how my laptops USB c to hdmi works well or not since I swapped to linux

#

I should prolly try it out at some point

cobalt blade
#

(although you'd need go faster than i think is actually possible to run for that much power gain)

final owl
#

aint no way i could solo power my rig like that

opal ingot
full kraken
#

atm I have a bunch of stuff piled on top of that setup cuz we are in the middle of renos, so my basement is half disassembled cuz my workshop is down there and I need room to cut 14' long pieces of moulding

cobalt blade
mental violet
#

if you start holy strike templar and ascend into gaurdian is it gonna be impossibly expensive to reroll into archmage heiro to the point of just making a 2nd templar?

opal ingot
#

jk i spammed 101 a couple of times

empty bronze
opal ingot
#

but id be surprised if 101 , the number itself was the problrem XD

full kraken
opal ingot
#

next infraction i get will be way worse lol

final owl
#

1 Hour: An average person (untrained) can maintain roughly 100–150 watts. A "fit" recreational cyclist can maintain around 200 watts.

full kraken
#

(which is barely anything)

opal ingot
#

better stay off global

final owl
#

fine if you wanna game on a potato I guess

cobalt blade
#

You just need to spend 40 regrets unspeccing your ascendency and then run lab

final owl
#

.. for up to an hour.

cobalt blade
#

(although you'd run lab first probably)

golden moat
# opal ingot wut

some GM prolly misclicked and hit ur name in chat or something. weird.

mental violet
#

fallback plan in case the new holy skills don't pan out

cobalt blade
#

if you do it in campaign and only ascend once then its just 10 regrets

#

10 regrets per lab

opal ingot
#

context someone said pick a number from 1 to 100 to get a mageblood

golden moat
cobalt blade
#

And for the most part your gear would just be life res /res crafted life to craft mana on instead

opal ingot
cobalt blade
golden moat
opal ingot
#

smh why cant i disrupt the global chat

#

without getting banned

#

cant a guy be a lil mischievous

fossil mural
opal ingot
#

true i forgot that part

golden moat
#

my next chat mute is like an hour something probably so 10 minutes is nothing

livid turtle
#

hello, cant i skip dialogue on space and also have skill bound to it? is there a way to set it up so it works? 🙁

opal ingot
sly minnow
#

what the fu is this vaalkek

golden moat
sly minnow
#

sweeping off screen

cobalt blade
#

Average aoe scaled build Pogott

#

With a massive shrine too

fossil mural
#

Trust

golden moat
#

cant wait for someone to solve divine blast and make it league startable

cobalt blade
#

no shot

#

blunderbore is not worth the chest slot and loss of timeless jewel

onyx adder
#

divine blast looks fine enough honestly

fossil mural
onyx adder
#

id consider playing it if i didnt have to farm emperors vigilance

#

which is aids to farm urself

fossil mural
#

Surely its not that hard

opal ingot
#

anyoen know how to unbind something

kindred silo
final owl
#

how are blunderbore users even running it. are they all running supreme ostentation or what

opal ingot
#

if i try to replace it with same key and stuff, it rebinds to another key

#

annoying

onyx adder
#

not being melee sucks

cobalt blade
fossil mural
#

Because of whole 2 new shield skills

cobalt blade
#

so if it defaults to f behind something random to f

fossil mural
#

As per ggg classic

split maple
#

so like few days of tree jail kinda aids

golden moat
#

imagine how nice 50m dps divine blast would be to map with

#

or even delve

fossil mural
golden moat
#

delve divine blast would go nuts if it had dmg

fossil mural
lucid gale
#

Fun fact, its just a bit over 12h to launch now.

onyx adder
#

offset by having like

kindred silo
lucid gale
#

Do you know where your build is at?

onyx adder
#

zero nodes to click on tree because its not melee and its not projectile

cobalt blade
#

o ye i should sleep to wake up right before dl goes live

fossil mural
#

Its like 2700 flat combined from vigilance?

#

And 10 crit

kindred silo
#

and ya as wtd said crit is offset by not having melee crit nodes on tree

opal ingot
#

bro does anyone have links on acts gambling thresholds

heady cliff
fossil mural
#

And then level pc on crit imbued

opal ingot
#

like what levels you can start gambling cuz u unlock shit

kindred silo
#

also u probably have to go less duration support

lucid gale
#

I'm gonna have faith that my Steam honors my request to patch immediately, just gonna have to leave the PC on.

split maple
fossil mural
opal ingot
#

and bases

#

actually i think ill just search the bases

lucid gale
#

Still aim to try to wake up for patching, but it's 5 AM. All bets are off.

proud gorge
#

welp, time for my league-ly tradition, coming up with a naming scheme for my characters. This league I'm thinking... names that intelligent fantasy birds might have. Like Aervus_Sharpbeak, or Itaxi_Prismwing

final owl
#

aint no way i'm up for launch. 6am saturday is an ungodly time I am not in the land of the living for.

final forgeBOT
#
cobalt blade
#

famous fantasy birds like kalandra?

#

or well intelligent

kindred silo
final owl
#

by the time I'm up the racers will be in maps and I'll know if I need to start any of the new skills at least

cobalt blade
#

does divine blast have multi hitting

stoic horizon
onyx adder
#

yes it hits twice

cobalt blade
#

hmm

onyx adder
#

per swing

onyx adder
#

its like earthquake without the aftershock cap

kindred silo
#

i mean

cobalt blade
#

not too bad then if still prolly worse than crush without melee scaling

kindred silo
#

shield crush aoe is pretty massive

final owl
final forgeBOT
#
fossil mural
kindred silo
#

also the forced conversion sucks on league start/budget

fossil mural
cobalt blade
#

Phys to light's not that bad of a support early tbf

#

it just falls off hard later

fossil mural
#

When elemental bleed ggg

kindred silo
#

like eventually its fine since u can go nebu

cobalt blade
#

and if your slayer tree you could path phys to cold enable trinity no?

#

winter spirits p close to slayer

kindred silo
#

its still a decent amount worse than just going phys

cobalt blade
#

fair

fossil mural
#

But its holy

lucid gale
unkempt lava
#

TODAY IS THE DAY LOGIN

cobalt blade
#

divine blast holy = bla holy

kindred silo
#

nebu or grace of goddess

brazen vector
fossil mural
fossil mural
#

Not a spec of holyness

cobalt blade
golden moat
#

hype to see how good of a skill the new shock nova turns out to be

sly minnow
#

i wonder how good holy strike can be

brazen vector
sly minnow
#

cuz i might have to use it till endgame

cobalt blade
#

:3

fossil mural
#

I am still wondering if anyone will ever play new retal skill

kindred silo
#

and this is also comparing it to shield crush which is fairly mid in itself

fossil mural
#

Why do they make them so bad

pulsar vault
brazen vector
#

League start today hyperglorp

fossil mural
#

Compared to eviscerate

mental violet
#

no one wants to be reactive in an arpg

cobalt blade
proud gorge
#

I mean, I could imagine there being another damage type: Pure Damage. Damage that doesn't interact with any form of defenses, can't be reduced in any way, and maybe also can't be increased in any way.

cobalt blade
fossil mural
#

Or even swipe tbh

lucid gale
#

Had a mate play a retal skill a few leagues ago.
Constant complaints on voice about bosses who just wouldn't hit him.

mental violet
#

this is a proactive playstyle game

cobalt blade
#

lmao

fossil mural
#

Thank god

proud gorge
#

I'm not sure what purposes Pure Damage would serve

brazen vector
#

Why cant we water our plants in poe

fossil mural
#

But I feel like because the bell exists shield retal skills will never be good

brazen vector
#

Imagine spamming entangle with thunderstorm spell slinger

cobalt blade
lucid gale
#

LoL player trying to sneak in True Damage there.

mental violet
proud gorge
#

in most games "Pure Damage" is used for forms of damage from bosses or whatever that's supposed to be lethal no matter what, since it can't be reduced by any means. But PoE also has damage redirection, like in Energy Shield or MoM, and it'd feel kind of bad if "Pure Damage" somehow bypassed all forms of damage redirection also

golden moat
#

is that just chaos damage

cobalt blade
fossil mural
proud gorge
#

since that'd just make CI builds terrible

cobalt blade
#

and chaos res can be made 90 max

pulsar vault
#

Isnt pure damage, holy damage since holy is pure ?

cobalt blade
#

only if they made it bypass es with no way to deny that

fossil mural
mental violet
#

they actually said in the jungroan interview ci makes boss design space never ever allowed to be pure chaos

tight plinth
#

pure damage is emotional damage

cobalt blade
#

You now just wear eternal damnation

proud gorge
# cobalt blade No it wouldnt?

yeah, that's what I'm saying, if "Pure Damage" existed presumably it'd still be subject to damage redirection since otherwise it'd be overly lethal to CI builds

fossil mural
cobalt blade
#

Inherently damage is taken from es before life

#

chaos just bypasses it

#

Theyd need to explicitly make a true damage bypass it

tranquil sedge
golden moat
#

god i miss my ED dual strike of ambdex jugg build

cobalt blade
proud gorge
#

ES is a form of life loss redirection

#

just one heavily ingrained into the game

tranquil sedge
#

energy shield is just blue life

#

losing blue life = losing life

#

checkmate

brazen vector
#

Zao taking notes in the background

fossil mural
tranquil sedge
#

all builds in this game are just life builds some are red and some are blue

viscid ruin
#

meh, day is whatever

#

HOLY SHIT POE NINJA GOT UI UPDATE

golden moat
#

add skills to PoE so i can play Fizz in PoE basically is all i want

viscid ruin
#

AND NOW HAS COLORS

proud gorge
#

there's, like, levels of damage prevention, and ES is in the last step, "life loss redirection", where you've already taken the damage, it's just a question of exactly which numbers the damage is going to be reducing

viscid ruin
brazen vector
golden moat
cobalt blade
proud gorge
#

But yeah, "Pure Damage" would be highly problematic on enemy side, and due to the amount of healing and life loss redirection and such in the game, probably wouldn't even be all that effective.

fossil mural
cobalt blade
#

It wont just bypass it because they say bypass all damage reduction/redirection they have to code it to bypass each one individually

#

lol

proud gorge
#

But on the other hand, "Pure Damage" on player side could be interesting

cobalt blade
#

and they would obviously not just negate a whole keystone

fossil mural
cobalt blade
whole bluff
#

True dmg can just be "ignore player elemental or physical resistance", ushaper was kinda close to true dmg when he was still at all difficult and dmg taken for elemental less common

proud gorge
#

imagine a unique with, like, 20 added Pure Damage, so it adds a very small amount of Pure Damage to every hit you deal, which can't be increased or reduced in any way.

cobalt blade
#

Honestly im not against things that ignore our res if its communicated properly

fossil mural
cobalt blade
#

But its rly hard to communicate that

whole bluff
#

No reason why dmg must pierce all player mitigation anyway

proud gorge
#

or, like, other things or items that deal "pure damage", that being effectively just flat damage that's not subject to damage reduction or resistances or anything and thus always deals exactly that much damage no matter what

opaque sphinx
#

man who is it that i usually argue lore with

whole bluff
#

I think pen used to be faulty design on ubers, cuz it would just shred max res and force suppression

brazen vector
#

Make it a map mod for the boss arena

pure bay
#

how many hours til new league?

golden moat
#

Your life and energy shield are capped at 1000
You cannot block
You are immune to elemental damage

Are you clicking this if it was a keystone?

fossil mural
opaque sphinx
#

esm or jiji?

cobalt blade
brazen vector
cobalt blade
#

(i know :3)

fossil mural
#

You can take 100 of phys as ele

#

Psure

cobalt blade
#

not from all damage sources

opaque sphinx
#

yeh

fossil mural
#

So then just ci

proud gorge
#

I could imagine Pure Damage as a damage type being generally kind of weak, but having a weird niche as "useful against Ubers due to ignoring Uber boss damage reduction"

fossil mural
#

And you cant die

cobalt blade
#

Coil is only from hits

#

and theres not enough sources for dot

fossil mural
cobalt blade
#

yes

#

Cortex degen bleed cb

opaque sphinx
#

doesn't std armourstacker convert all phys to ele and then use armour applies to ele?

fossil mural
#

You just become bleed immune and cb immune