1┃general

[onyx adder]

for a given value of work

[frigid wedge]

asenaths mark?

[soft perch]

asenaths chant

ya sure

[frigid wedge]

yeah fair

[noble sleet]

Yall think they are doing crazy crazy nerfs or is this balance good? Over nerfing with not enough buffs to the shitty spells

[spice pecan]

also thefarmer is pobbing like regular frostbolt for leaguestart apparently

[frigid wedge]

i still might abyss stack anyway

[cobalt blade]

seems like good balance

[soft perch]

poacher + abyss chest helps a decent amount with having a health pool on bows

[frigid wedge]

scene as im gonna end up with 3 diff 6 links

[safe schooner]

So huh guys

[cobalt blade]

i wish they buffed spark but they probably never will

[onyx adder]

what

why

[cobalt blade]

although i do dislike the replenishing shrine nerf still

[soft perch]

he was trying to play frost blades

i think hes just coping

[onyx adder]

it does fireball tier of dps and requires significant projectile speed to not feel like ur on the short bus

oh

[spice pecan]

idk thats what his stream title is but i skimmed thru the vod and didn't look like he played or pobbed anything

[fossil mural]

Shrine nerfs instead of making different shrine tiers

Pag

[safe schooner]

I’m bad at observation, what does the new static strike look like now that we saw it work in ziggy vid ?

[split maple]

its rly sad

[cobalt blade]

yuuh

[hexed mountain]

all shrines about to get nuked to enable a belt they'll drop disable in 3.29 and we wont get the shrines back

[safe schooner]

I’m too bad to see if it confirmed or not anything

[cobalt blade]

couldve atleast allowed us 1 league with it D:

[frigid wedge]

honestly i imagine some of the shrine nerfs are bc of charlie

[stoic horizon]

did we? i thought he only used normal static

[fossil mural]

At least it kept life regen

[safe schooner]

Nah he used the new one specifically

[split maple]

i cannot blood magic indigon

[cobalt blade]

i definitely wasnt gonna end up with an absurdly silly frostmage setup :3

[frigid wedge]

but literally ONLY lance used charlie for archmage

[safe schooner]

But I can’t tell if it did double hit or not the footage is very short but it seems good clear for sure

[fossil mural]

Literally no one plays it

And no one would play it

[frigid wedge]

golden charlatan?

[fossil mural]

Especially with mirage being a loading screen

Imagine ramping twice per map

[cobalt blade]

Nah people will play it

the ramp isnt that bad

[split maple]

isnt ramp like kill 1 (one) rare mob

[hexed mountain]

golden charlatan increases in price later in the league because its a fun meme build

[fossil mural]

Not even close

[soft perch]

i actually expect to hate the loading screen part of mirage with a fiery passion

[cobalt blade]

its kill maybe 4

[fossil mural]

Especially if you get shit rng

[soft perch]

like genuinely why

[frigid wedge]

that has nothing to do with a build being strong, that's just the primary league mechanic that gets added this time round not being compatible

[hexed mountain]

its a small zone should be a few seconds tops

[frigid wedge]

charlatan is obscene on content where it works

[fossil mural]

Probably technical limitation

[cobalt blade]

Yo as an eu player thats all my load screens

[split maple]

i like there being new loading screens - should excuse me my shitty map times 😄

[cobalt blade]

[soft perch]

the breach boss portal in maps took quite a while to load

[hexed mountain]

remember that if we had no loading for the mirage you would be loading the mirage upon loading the map right

[karmic gust]

did scourge had loading screens? skipped that league

[cobalt blade]

No

[nova minnow]

god damn whats the divine to chaos rate? no way it's 700+ right?

[frigid wedge]

isnt the mirage kinda tiny anyway

[cobalt blade]

scourge wasnt generating new maps though

[soft perch]

game still has to compile shaders

[tight plinth]

im playing a non permanent minion for the first few days, i might quit the league

[cobalt blade]

or new mechanics extra blight extra harvest etc

[karmic gust]

i guess so

[soft perch]

and shader loading in poe is a bit weird

[brazen vector]

I have to turn on rf every mirage, omg...

[frigid wedge]

honestly carrion golems might be worth playing just bc u dont need to resummon anything

[cobalt blade]

cwdt rf

[final owl]

I have terrible campaign time and loading zones is not one of my problems :I

[tight plinth]

shits gonna be so ass for absolution builds

[main pike]

Just play spectre then

[brazen vector]

Automation rf

[stoic horizon]

ah yeah, finished watching when he picked it up, sadly ziggy wasnt smart enough to test the important stuff (other than multistrike not giving 3 stacks of the buff)

[fossil mural]

Its not that tiny, but yea small part of the map. Unless mirage map

[cobalt blade]

Or automation rf

Lol

[hexed mountain]

wdym you get 3 absolution mobs on the first pack

[cobalt blade]

mildly annoyed we dont know if extra strikes generate lightning

[hexed mountain]

animate weapon fo ranged arms sounds dead tho

[frigid wedge]

i love that Ziggy is literally relevant for 2 weeks every 4 months and then I hear nothing about him

[fossil mural]

Its really not?

[frigid wedge]

and its just bc ggg like him

[stoic horizon]

nor double hit behaviour

[cobalt blade]

Yee

[fossil mural]

You cast it twice and have enough to clear

[frigid wedge]

for mirages

[hexed mountain]

if mirages are chill ... but they seem juiced

[safe schooner]

Yeah, the chain looks okay tho, but the single target we don’t yet know

[fossil mural]

And?

[karmic gust]

idk if this would be the actual reason, the new map generation makes sense tho when they are also changing the actual content like harvests/expeds etc

[onyx adder]

this doesnt work i dont think

[safe schooner]

It’s sad it could be literally new LS unnerfed or frost blades

[stoic horizon]

i feel like thats part of the reason he gets chosen for the previews, he isnt in depth enough to try some obscure stuff in his spoiler videos

[onyx adder]

its not like snipe

ive been trying

[frigid wedge]

its jank and none of them have cast speed or mana regen normally bc u summon once per map

[onyx adder]

snipe u want one stack

[hexed mountain]

i mean he tested some stuff , he's a casual

[onyx adder]

this u want 0 stack

[brazen vector]

You just use bladefall of thratus and unleash AWoRA

[tight plinth]

nah i dont think thats it, i think there just isnt any good interviewers in the community, i watch a bit of the jung interview yesterday and shit was painful

[snow timber]

thinking of either rolling magma mines or glacial cascade of fissure mines for leaguestart, anyone can comment on how either feels/how well they scale as a "only build of the league" thing?

[frigid wedge]

I've seen one good thing from him and it got removed immediately from the game

[onyx adder]

u literally just want to ping the server with a cancelled storm burst attempt every tick

[eternal dagger]

Does anyone know if its worthy to use Momentum support gem in Whirling Assault?

[frigid wedge]

still awkward

[zealous mantle]

wai holy shit it seems that you dont need to actually land a hit to get holy strike to proc

what the fuck

[main osprey]

is gravicius still worth running in betrayal?

[fossil mural]

You cast it twice and you have enough to clear anything, and then as you go just cast a few more times. That barely qualifies as jank

[brazen vector]

You do that in ever map either way?

[stoic horizon]

yes

[frigid wedge]

yeah but now its 2x

[brazen vector]

Oh noooo

[zealous mantle]

at least thats my read

[hexed mountain]

if you got sockets open

[brazen vector]

The horror

[fossil mural]

Other builds press their buttons 100 times per map

Unplayable

[frigid wedge]

alesia didnt u literally decide not to play that exact build bc of this exact issue

[hexed mountain]

clear around the mirage : summon once /clear the mirage : summon twice / clear the map / summon a third time

[brazen vector]

I didnt

[eternal dagger]

Does it increase the damage for the whole skill or only half of the hits during animation?

I see it activate during skill

[hexed mountain]

its not for damage

[karmic gust]

i mean this is main reason why people dont play AW in first place even when there arent loading zones in middle of map

[frigid wedge]

regardless if im here for minions im here to walk, not spend 30s summoning

so yk

[eternal dagger]

momentum add 40% more dmg if you move 2m

[karmic gust]

if i had to do it multiple times per map i double wouldnt play it for sure

[fossil mural]

Just come back after clearning the map. Unless you are running horrible layouts but then just dont

[karmic gust]

its like what 15 minions and you summon 4 at once

[spice pecan]

this sounds like nowhere near as much upkeep as, say, BV

[soft perch]

animate weapon is hella jank

the weapons die

[karmic gust]

that is not just few times you have to do it

[spice pecan]

or master surgeon

[hexed mountain]

wrong game man

[fossil mural]

Its no different from pressing lightning strike or slam

[eternal dagger]

sorry

[frigid wedge]

bv has actual cast speed

[brazen vector]

You spend 30s in an extra loading screen, might as well resummon minions as well

[hexed mountain]

just backtrack the whole map

[spice pecan]

dperd5

[hexed mountain]

[karmic gust]

for BV it do not takes 20 seconds till you get to max stages

so it is indeed verry different

[spice pecan]

oh true lmao

[fossil mural]

You moving at 30ms in poe1 or what

[hexed mountain]

not backtracking the whole map is faster than backtracking the whole map

[fossil mural]

Also "whole map" as if people will run anything but dunes and shi

[hexed mountain]

ew dunes

[split maple]

Dunes takes seconds to backtrack tbf, it's bigger than it feels

[fossil mural]

Smallers maps will be the absolute fucking meta

[cosmic raptor]

dunes best

[hexed mountain]

maps for explodey gaming

is so much more fun

[frigid wedge]

me backtracking the entire map in 3 sec bc i missed an altar

[fossil mural]

That 2 by 2 swap map if it still exists

[onyx adder]

i mean i dont think its controversial to say that if u need an extra loading screen per map then every temp minion and every build that requires buff ramp is worse

[fossil mural]

With puddle in the middle

[leaden quiver]

i will still play dom blow

waaat aa sigma

[onyx adder]

i dont like doing vaal side areas on AW and its exactly the same

[leaden quiver]

so altars from the og map dont affect the extra map?

or do they

[hexed mountain]

dom blow doesnt really need ramp tbh you kill a pack they're all up

[brazen vector]

I farmed adorneds on AW, youre weak

[soft perch]

while also competing with however you run maps with astrolabe

[onyx adder]

im fast

[warm musk]

I think im done upgrading for now. Maybe crafting my 2 other will shaper small clusters but im too lazy https://pobb.in/jgZDF043DtIn

[onyx adder]

ramp is slow

[warm musk]

My build is ass

[wispy wing]

yeah true 😅
extra loading screens just kill momentum so any build relying on buffs or temp minions def suffers more than others

[frigid wedge]

mf get a 250 widowhail

[fossil mural]

You mean 300

[brazen vector]

Don't need ramp when 1 weapons average damage is a shaper per second 0

[frigid wedge]

jesus

[fossil mural]

380 quiver bonus

[onyx adder]

well certainly at that point AW is slower than most builds not named AW

[split maple]

Is int on abyssals rly more efficient than lightres?

[elder marlin]

Can totems trigger soul ascension or foul hh eat soul mechanics?

[onyx adder]

like theres no way anybody is singing the clearspeed praises of that build thats not why u play it

[onyx adder]

u play it because it does a ton of damage on basically no gear and u can smash content early

[warm musk]

i think we need more flat

[leaden quiver]

isnt AWORA pretty good

[stoic horizon]

totems dont trigger on death effects

[split maple]

Get crit multi helical tho

[onyx adder]

yea its a good build i played it

[karmic gust]

or on hit effects in case of those 2

[split maple]

Like its sad rn

[onyx adder]

i would recommend it

[warm musk]

Imma pass on that

Im too poor

[main osprey]

widowhail with new sanctify vaal orb equals big money rizz for widowhail builds?

[frigid wedge]

entire build worth of dps extra

[onyx adder]

and i def aint bashin anyone who plays it

[karmic gust]

but you can just use regular attack to stack soul scension and shit

on totems its not that bad

[spice pecan]

no melding for 90 all res? i guess at 50 billion damage it's probably not too necessary

[fossil mural]

I wonder where you will be getting the new vaal orb

[warm musk]

Is it good to go melding?

[karmic gust]

or in case of bows manaforged, but you are probs asking because of KF totems i assume

[wispy wing]

yo fr
new sanctify vaal orb widowhail huge rizz for those builds basically printing value lmao

[spice pecan]

i mean you'd get 90 all ele res

[karmic gust]

so there its a bit clunkier

but you can spellslinger

[elder marlin]

Its on hit

[karmic gust]

actually

spellslinger doesnt work with ballistas like manaforged right

because its on proj fire

so maybe not

[brazen vector]

What does one even farm with 58bn dps

[fossil mural]

Aura

[main osprey]

farm poeninja numbers

[warm musk]

You're cooking ngl but I need to also put purity of lightning idk how tho

[split maple]

Reddit

[stoic horizon]

totems are the receivers of on hit effects then

and since they copy your stats its useless

[warm musk]

Those 90% less damage, 4 ghosted, 100% deli valdos

[brazen vector]

True

[leaden quiver]

not even

[frigid wedge]

aul

[leaden quiver]

you need survivability for 4ghosted valdos

[brazen vector]

Aul is paper

[spice pecan]

focused ballista also specifically says attack projectile

[frigid wedge]

idk if u noticed the 1.3m max hits

[karmic gust]

no the other way around

[brazen vector]

Only 700k phys max hit

[karmic gust]

placing ballista counts as making attack with weapon

[warm musk]

Yep but it's better to just burst them down also I stil lose to Thief Grip

[main osprey]

man i'm such a chud

[karmic gust]

so it procs manaforged

but slinger requires actually firing projectile

[frigid wedge]

oh no

[main osprey]

watching Ben do 2 stone 5 hours while sandbagging gear

[leaden quiver]

thats low i have 2 mil on my starter

trust

[karmic gust]

soit doesnt work i guess

sadly

[warm musk]

So there are better valdo builds around

[spice pecan]

does it only proc manaforged if using a bow skill on the ballista

[frigid wedge]

an we turn off arcane cloak

[short prairie]

[frigid wedge]

for actual max hits

[spice pecan]

or does it work with a wand skill as the ballista too

[short prairie]

I can only watch you guys play

[karmic gust]

well wands cant use manaforged

[spice pecan]

yeah I just wasn't sure if it was some weird interaction with ballista support itself or w/e

i see what you mean now tho

it would work with slinger if it was spend mana on wand attacks i guess

[karmic gust]

it would probably proc PP tho

i think

i dont think you want to wear PP on KF ballistas but hey its an option lul

[split maple]

Can we get frenzy that works on wands while we at it please

[dense bobcat]

hello guys i wanna buy the magefist flickerstrike animation does somoene know if its not purchachable any more i can link video to but i dont know if it is acceptable in general

[frigid wedge]

norm frenzy works on wands

[short prairie]

Who told me league starts in 7 hours earlier today

[main osprey]

holy bait

[split maple]

What

[karmic gust]

close enouggh

[frigid wedge]

ye

[split maple]

Holy fuck did I mess up

[frigid wedge]

i use it to trigger my poets pen ddocr necro

[split maple]

But wait cannot automats it on wands

[frigid wedge]

frenzy is just split into projectile and melee

[karmic gust]

every single slinger and pp build ever used frenzy how did you missed that part :d

[split maple]

So okay mfa on wands pls

[cosmic raptor]

me

[frigid wedge]

esm u just use frenzy as the skill u click to trigger poets and spellslinger

[leaden quiver]

its even on sale now

[short prairie]

Yo

[warm musk]

GGG knows a lot of people are going flicker

[dense bobcat]

i checked all this but i want the blue animation

[gentle chasm]

and after that they can sell them their reroll skins mtx

[wispy wing]

lmao trueee 😅 frenzy is basically a default at this point for slinger pp builds can’t believe you missed that 😆

[frigid wedge]

half of the "flicker animation" in magefist videos is his weapon effect btw

[fossil mural]

On the topic

Where tf is my perma transmog

[kindred sequoia]

is there a migration tool to migrate old std tabs to the current std tab? say for instance merge all currency tabs?

[fossil mural]

It cant be taking this long

Surely

[leaden quiver]

are you thinking about the weapon effect

[dense bobcat]

really ? didnt know what weapon does the blue animation

[leaden quiver]

not the flicker effect

probably

[brazen vector]

Herald of ass explode animation

[frigid wedge]

u buy a weapon effect and it applies a trail or other effect to ur held weapon

[karmic gust]

just put it to display case and look at it forever ez perma

[gentle chasm]

why make transmog permanent when temporary make money

[frigid wedge]

they make a giant trail that streaks when u flicker with some of them

eg first blood

[fossil mural]

Fucking greedy chinese company

[fossil mural]

First blood in general leaves a trail

[leaden quiver]

wish any of the packs looked good

[fossil mural]

You just walk and it does

[frigid wedge]

yes, the ones that leave trails streak the entire length of ur screen with flicker

thats the point im making

he normally has one on

[brazen vector]

Map device of the BDSM pack looks nice

[fossil mural]

Brown mtx for herald of ice/ash

[final owl]

right, unlike all those excessively generous western companies that totally never do anything like this.

[frigid wedge]

bdsm map device θωθ

[leaden quiver]

automaton still goated

for heralds

[limpid prairie]

A big F for the person who rolls additional accuray on their attack gem

[frigid wedge]

why

it could be worse

[leaden quiver]

overchock support

[frigid wedge]

this at least has benefit

[leaden quiver]

overshock

[karmic gust]

automaton best herald and storm brand mtx

[limpid prairie]

you get the lvl 1 version 75 accuracy is so sad

[frigid wedge]

unlike void manip

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-warriors-gif-17866764483270738307

[hardy heron]

Imagine hitting void support on your ele attack build

[tranquil sedge]

tho they did say it's in the works eventually

[frigid wedge]

how does that one look again

i dont buy mtx

[karmic gust]

which one?

[leaden quiver]

true

i mean, i have a soft spot for celestial brand mtx

[frigid wedge]

both ig

[stable pumice]

That's huge

[leaden quiver]

it applies to multiple

[cobalt blade]

:o BDSM pack?

[leaden quiver]

and armageddon looks nice on it

like a crystal

[frigid wedge]

alesia can we have the bdsm

[stable pumice]

XD any extra acc some builds help

[hardy heron]

Or brutality support

[cobalt blade]

so true

[fossil mural]

Take her on a date first, jezz

[karmic gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=955aB4xCNDs its this colorscheme mostly

[frigid wedge]

too far away

[karmic gust]

for all of them

[opal ingot]

Which has higher priority when you say KB without context

Kinetic blast or kinetic bolt?

[prime hill]

bruh im checking jungroans interview

[cobalt blade]

automaton hof is bis

[karmic gust]

same on storm brand etc the red

[stable pumice]

So what ya all gonna play

[prime hill]

first question sent my sides to orbit

[frigid wedge]

blast

always

[split maple]

Kb

The other one is almost unplayable

[frigid wedge]

blast is kb, bolt is kbolt

[fossil mural]

Its kbolt

[opal ingot]

Thanks u guys

[fossil mural]

Kblast sounds stupid

[cobalt blade]

k st makes it sound better

[main osprey]

kbla from now on then

[fossil mural]

Like wococ

[main osprey]

[frigid wedge]

[karmic gust]

noone plays kbolt so we dont even need abbrev for kbolt

[split maple]

Need to use proper punctuation salty - K, blast

[main osprey]

but kbo looks nice

[frigid wedge]

my favourite abbreviation

wof

[cobalt blade]

the one time it got played as frag it got to be kbof

[opal ingot]

Wall of flesh

[fossil mural]

Woof woof

[brazen vector]

https://youtu.be/zFzHf3etCTA?t=2492

Time stamp

[frigid wedge]

i was gonna say ur interpretation depends on if u play terraria or not

[karmic gust]

1 league and the skill was never seen again, rip

[opal ingot]

Spent 500 hours on it and burnt out

I'm not touching that game in a year again

[prime hill]

bruh wat

[frigid wedge]

thats bc ur an achievement hunter

[cobalt blade]

yknow tempting

[frigid wedge]

naca can u send a ss

[prime hill]

spawn in poe interview is not something I expected

[cobalt blade]

probably not gonna buy it but tempting

[dark sequoia]

Is Living Lightning any good

[stable pumice]

Tf did you do in one world for 500H

[frigid wedge]

my mobile data wont load video

[cobalt blade]

uh im on mobile so itll look ass

[opal ingot]

Multiple playthroughs

[fossil mural]

What about replaying calamity every update

[karmic gust]

no floaty armor set no good

[frigid wedge]

it has 1 purpose and its to automate worms with mothers embrace

[opal ingot]

Xdd

[stable pumice]

Ngl weak go play modded lol

[hexed mountain]

man i'm so damn hype about the exalt change ngl

[leaden quiver]

float armour look good

[opal ingot]

I just went playthrough after playthrough after playthrough

[stoic horizon]

i have 2k h in terraria

[leaden quiver]

the shaper one is better than the maven one

[opal ingot]

I only have like 80 hours of vanilla the rest modded

[leaden quiver]

wonder what the next kiracs is going to be

[main osprey]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA CAN THURSDAY DISAPPEAR

[hexed mountain]

having tons of exalts is going to go SO hard for helmet crafting

[fossil mural]

If its as common as chaos you can finally you use on gear and maps

[main osprey]

BRING ME TO FRIDAY

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[leaden quiver]

those sets are always much better than anything else lol

[dark sequoia]

That is my favorite way to use it

[opal ingot]

The I started adding a few qol mods

[split maple]

Prayge matrons as common as we want

[opal ingot]

Then more and more and more

[leaden quiver]

whats a nice hideout with a big open space in it. Arboreal?

[wispy wing]

lol damn 😅 grinding that many playthroughs must’ve been brutal or kinda satisfying lol

[hexed mountain]

it will go SO hard for the wild bristle matron/ex/ex craft of shaped helms

[dark sequoia]

Second favorite way is infernal legion but its worse than just using skitters

[frigid wedge]

honestly i need to play calamity again

[fossil mural]

It has always been weird to me how regal and exalt are so rare

[opal ingot]

Yeah I was just addicted af

[hexed mountain]

yeah ex really were limiting fishing for conc on helms

[native token]

is there any reason not to start slams ?

[frigid wedge]

i need to do a ranger run through of calamity mod, and i wanna do all bosses hitless

[opal ingot]

Then suddenly midway through my mage calamity playthrough I stopped at the celestial pillars. Literally bored out of my mind suddenly

[frigid wedge]

one day ill get around to it

[split maple]

No

[wispy wing]

once you get hooked it’s impossible to stop for a bit huh

[hexed mountain]

i guess pbod is deadge kinda so will have to pick another skill to craft a helm for

[opal ingot]

Yeah

[native token]

earthshatter berserker it is i guess

[karmic gust]

i grabbed kirac for last league and then did not finished atlas as i quit the league and forgot about it gg xd

[fossil mural]

Yes ben starts them

[split maple]

Rf

[opal ingot]

That is why im starting to see the vision in friction or some shit like that

[fossil mural]

Dont be a copycat

[hexed mountain]

crafting jewels will feel a lot nicer too

[opal ingot]

You add too many qol it becomes a slippery slope

[prime hill]

rf, wocot, still pbod

[native token]

thats a reason to play it

[fossil mural]

Copycat

[cobalt blade]

bro forgot about when exalts was the meta mod currency 🥀

[prime hill]

theres some other skills aswell

dw

[main osprey]

slams are great

[native token]

doesnt matter

[hexed mountain]

might just do eye of winter helm

[limpid prairie]

Getting a level 1 support is not as good as i thought lvl 1 chain support is 30% less dmg and lvl 1 damage supports are 7% more dmg

[karmic gust]

idk how that one works even now do i still get the rewards or did i got scammed by ggg

[native token]

i just chase power on a league starter

[fossil mural]

It shouldnt have been exalt for metamod to begin with

[main osprey]

idk if this would be good at all but i'm thinking about a champion impale earthquake pingus with beacon of madness

and warped timepiece

[opal ingot]

Volatile vaal orbs on the gems hopefully xd

[frigid wedge]

u grab a utility support usually

[opal ingot]

And you can get past the range on the modifiers xdd

[fossil mural]

They are tech stuff. And say pc on crit is op

[frigid wedge]

such as if u needed lifetap for ur mfa link

[main osprey]

i have a warped timepiece addiction and i NEED TO USE IT

[cobalt blade]

u dont get the ones you havent finished atlas completion for afaik but it should autoclaim rewards you forgot

[hexed mountain]

tfw there's so many good builds to start but... a whole new archetype to test and coinflip starter on

[split maple]

Guilt-less exalting maps even when they don't have 140% scarbs 👀

[frigid wedge]

i probably need a pcoc tornado shot

[cobalt blade]

agree love exalting things

[dark sequoia]

I really dislike how melee ignite is kinda relegated to retaliation skills

[hexed mountain]

yeah that's cool too

[karmic gust]

rip

[native token]

but nothing beats day 1 slam it seems like

[frigid wedge]

infernal blow of immolating looks p strong

[hexed mountain]

cant stand slam

[fossil mural]

Leap slam is decent

[prime hill]

yeah unless you like being a tube test with certain peoples builds

[zealous mantle]

looks like holy st rike minions work with multistrike from ziggys video

[frigid wedge]

and shield charge ignite was a blast

[zealous mantle]

feelsgoodman

[prime hill]

starters this league is pretty good all around, thats been public atleast

[frigid wedge]

my leaguestart last league was melee ignite

def wasn't retal

[hexed mountain]

will probably have better gear than usual in campain with events forced on every mirage (if you dont giga rush)

[fossil mural]

Double essense

[hexed mountain]

free rare jewelry

[fossil mural]

Its like 20 new rooms too

Like bound to be good

[hexed mountain]

lowkey static of gathering looked very good on ziggy's test too

if its indeed basically a better wildstrike picking only lightning its kinda hype

[zealous mantle]

yeah its melee arc

[hexed mountain]

shame he didnt check if additional strikes also shoot a bolt

[zealous mantle]

but it ramps

[fossil mural]

Cant wait for it to get nerfed

[split pagoda]

slams good

[zealous mantle]

i think he did at the end

[dark sequoia]

wait
static strike of gathering ignite?

hmmm

[frigid wedge]

esm do you remember when i sent my shield charge in defiled cathedral

[fossil mural]

Why

[frigid wedge]

with my lvl 31 gem

[zealous mantle]

but i didnt dig deep in the video enough to see

[frigid wedge]

or whatever

[split pagoda]

id love to start on the superior ascendancy (zerker) but my later build plans are all duelist so f

[zealous mantle]

also seems that it doesnt stack each hit on MS but it could also be a bug

cause itd be weird if it interacted like that

[nimble cedar]

what does ignoring weapon restriction on animate guardian of smithing mean?

[karmic gust]

this is how other similar stuff works also

[wispy wing]

yeah that seems kinda sus 😅
stacking on MS per hit would be wild, probs a bug if it’s acting like that

[hexed mountain]

idk if you even need duration on gathering lightning , its probably good QoL but 3 attacks per second isnt really a high bar

[karmic gust]

so it would make sense

[leaden quiver]

can use smite with any weapon

[hoary scarab]

means it can use smite with any weapon

[zealous mantle]

then thats kinda dookie, the max stacks were what 12 right

[stoic horizon]

thats normal, bonezone doesn't either

[nimble cedar]

oh ty

[fossil mural]

It is for clear

[karmic gust]

yes

[zealous mantle]

each stack is instanced so idk how you would manage all 12

[fossil mural]

If you clear with 1-2 attacks

[karmic gust]

thats why people are worried about playing the skill :d

[wispy wing]

yeah fr 😅 duration helps QoL but 3 attacks sec is already plenty fast doesn’t really feel necessary

[hexed mountain]

yeah guess higher average chains

[zealous mantle]

and its like what 3-4sec duration

yeahhh

[stoic horizon]

attack speed, inc duration

[hoary scarab]

4sec base, it really wont be that bad

[hexed mountain]

but man its such a shame ziggy didnt test + strike interaction

[stoic horizon]

at base duration you need 3 aps

[karmic gust]

we dont exactly know how pain in the ass it is to maintain but if its like fo example something like trauma then its going to be pain in the ass

[karmic gust]

if each stack is seaprate duration

nd not full refresh

that is very short time

[hoary scarab]

i feel like this is one of thsoe things that ppl blow up more than it needs to

[hexed mountain]

to be fair you could just "double dip" on duration use and run static strike of gathering with trauma support

[karmic gust]

im hoping for full refresh at least

[pastel crystal]

its gonna be cheeks if it doesnt refresh

[hexed mountain]

so you'd actually get value off duration

[pastel crystal]

[zealous mantle]

inchrestin

honsetly

[fossil mural]

With duration it will probably be reasonable to expect 6 stacks uptime

[hoary scarab]

as expected

[karmic gust]

if you arent running multistrike because of gathering then yea might as well do that lmao

[zealous mantle]

normal static strikes looking like a good support skill

[hexed mountain]

yeah you can't multi

[zealous mantle]

for keeping hallowing flame up for minions

[hexed mountain]

maybe you could even do ancestral cry

[leaden quiver]

hallowing flame is bad

never use it

[hoary scarab]

i mean, might aswell just smite

[fossil mural]

Surely 6 chains is good enough

[zealous mantle]

truge

[stoic horizon]

moonbender's static strike trauma slayer lock in

[zealous mantle]

not sure how theyd stack up but my guess is hallowing is better than smite later down

[hexed mountain]

lowkey autoexert ancestral cry 16 or 18 hits between warcries

on berserk

[left nexus]

guys i saw that theres still delve mod for body armour damage taken from mana before life, and i also saw that theres 1 prefix and 1 suffix of this same mode. . does it mean you can get both the suffix and the prefix on the same body armour for total of 20% ? or only 1 can apply ?

[hexed mountain]

with +1/2 on gloves and +1 on tree that's already a solid +4/5 strike targets chaining lightning

[fossil mural]

If that works

[zealous mantle]

does that applyu additional stacks per target?

[fossil mural]

[hexed mountain]

but MAN if ONLY ziggy tested the + strike

[karmic gust]

if the extra targets even chain lightning

xd

[stoic horizon]

we just dunno if extra strike does the lightning

[hexed mountain]

yeah

that's the problem

[cobalt blade]

phys as extra vs flat you can scale with gem levels

smite> than hallowing

[stoic horizon]

BUT tbh 12 chains sounds good enough for clear on its own

[cobalt blade]

:p

[hexed mountain]

mr ziggy you had one job

[karmic gust]

good thing jung did not forgot to ask about the skill yesterday :d

[zealous mantle]

how tough would 3 aps wihout MS be tho

[leaden quiver]

Hallowed is ass

[main osprey]

then we'd get "guys this skill is insanely busted, look at me kill this act boss" and boom -30% effectiveness

[leaden quiver]

Dont play that effect

[fossil mural]

It says one lightning target, but that could be so you cant scale range/splash or smth

[cobalt blade]

fine because you arent being locked into repeats

[steel light]

are there new mirage information?

[blazing nymph]

the suffix has a mod weight of 0, so it can't roll. Looks like they moved it from a suffix to a prefix at some point

[cobalt blade]

just a bit of local as scaling

[hexed mountain]

considering lightning chain range it could be a prime penance abuser too

[stoic horizon]

ziggy vid on new skills

[fossil mural]

0 means no data

Not that it cant roll

[split maple]

breach rooms are back in alva temples

rly big!

[cobalt blade]

It cant roll

[blazing nymph]

huh, fun

[karmic gust]

yea its less 0dps than ls of arcing and less pain in the ass to make work than lightning wild strike

[fossil mural]

I mean maybe, but there are 0 weight mods that actually do roll

Idk why?

[karmic gust]

but if its pain in the ass to play then rip :d

[zealous mantle]

aw man its gon be so nice to play

[cobalt blade]

this one doesnt :p

[hexed mountain]

probably an amazing skill to play if +strikes works yeah

[left nexus]

ohhh thank you ! missed that ! do you know of other ways to get taken from mana before life?

[zealous mantle]

FRIDAY CANT COME SOONER GUYS

FAH

[slow niche]

real

[main osprey]

litewawy

[hexed mountain]

the problem is .. leaguestarting a skill that might just not work when i dont want to play anything else on berserk

[split maple]

Captainlance setup: 40% mom, 10% hiero, 10% watcher eye, 10x1 = 10% arylardex per pc = 70%. then get 30% from foulborn mind of the council for phys, get 30% for lightning from mind of the countil -> so the only problem is converting fire and cold. taken care of by font of thunder, watcher eye and divine flesh.

[fossil mural]

And ls doesnt have splash on proj

[split maple]

yeah i got that in clipboard

[cobalt blade]

Hiero + clarity watchers eye and there some scuffed 100% mom things

[karmic gust]

i still dont have leveling pob prepared for assa need to do it at some point

[stoic horizon]

you can always swap to ben's eb smite

[safe schooner]

im scared that its mecanically bad, like you cant multistrike, you might need duration to maintain stacks, might not double hit with beam + attack, ...

[cobalt blade]

i would clarify the needing 101% taken as in that clipboard paste

[zealous mantle]

i feel like getting melee splash on HS is gonna be so necessary, i need to level like 20 of those fuckers during campaign

[safe schooner]

like it has ALL THE RED FLAGS

[cobalt blade]

just so people dont get randomly 1 shot if they try go off just that

[main pike]

What are you playing on assassin

[safe schooner]

you click on another class

[hexed mountain]

im in ssf i'm not getting the pieces

[fossil mural]

Whats the other set up? It could work now if you can overcorrupt something

[karmic gust]

crema volcano slinger

[hexed mountain]

not leaguestart at least

[zealous mantle]

yo SSF gaming?

what a beast

[split maple]

other stuff only in standard afaik

[cobalt blade]

bound by destiny over watchers

[safe schooner]

As long as jung doesnt come out with an assassin build its unplayable

[modern flint]

you guys think nightmare maps will still be worth a decent amount? we probably lost the juicing part but it still gives uber frag

[cobalt blade]

you need 11% on watchers so you don't randomly die gettign that 1% anywhere else would fix

[hexed mountain]

lowkey normal static strike with the buff and just do ambush shenanigans could be fun too

[cobalt blade]

The upside of bbd is that its chaos over lightning so dmg completely deleted

[zealous mantle]

wonder if trans static strike works with shockwave

[karmic gust]

the extra duration on normal static strike is def very big deal at least

[safe schooner]

Ngl i m kinda gazing goratha's version and try to cook something yeah

[zealous mantle]

how much pop one can get, esp with void shockwave

[summer spoke]

why wouldnt it ?

[karmic gust]

so should b a lot better skill now

same with the extra range

[fossil mural]

Yea if you can overcorrupt bound it would be cool

[left nexus]

ty and theres the 10 on rare body armour i guess if you dont need 100% i think thats pretty good. im curious about hiro/guardian mana stacking and reserving for ES and the new archmage and using electric battery + MoM and dmg taken from mana

[safe schooner]

Static strike was already not that far from being "decent"

[steel light]

i'm too young to know what it means

[zealous mantle]

idk i just dk much bout the base skill enough

[stoic horizon]

ziggy actually used these together

[steel light]

mamba still dead?

[zealous mantle]

ohhh

nice

[fossil mural]

No

[karmic gust]

yea it was just kinda ass to play

they unnerfed mamba

[cobalt blade]

Am wondering if it ends up being worth running an impossible escape for one of the scion dura wheels tbh for gathering

[safe schooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u2xfNdRsw8 i mean this should be improvable now ?

[stoic horizon]

nope

[steel light]

😱

[cobalt blade]

i could see magebane one being worth maybe

[split maple]

that rounding thingie is so annoying honestly

[karmic gust]

probably yea

[split maple]

not that going for 100% mom isnt supposed to be annoying

[cobalt blade]

yeah i hate it hope they fix it at some point

[fossil mural]

The fix is overcorrupt trust

[karmic gust]

hey now you can just overcorruptsomething for that last %

ez

[cobalt blade]

probably fine to do on uh font assuming you cant over corrupt jewels

Which i really hope you can

[split maple]

can honestly just go EB + MoM and not invest more into it, tho be warned it feels like a bit fake defences practically

[karmic gust]

they should make overcorrupts work on flasks

[split maple]

since you will be sometimes low on mana

[karmic gust]

for no reason whatsover

[cobalt blade]

I want a 180k+ elegant hubris for funnies

[fossil mural]

Poo2 doesnt, but would be cool ig

Progeni price

Will skyrocket

[cobalt blade]

Extra few thousand seeds worth of combos

[safe schooner]

i kinda wish i could make a static strike build but i just cant win when I pob stuff lmao

[hexed mountain]

i think the biggest change is i wouldnt run oath of winter+avatar

[safe schooner]

i mean you'd just do a slayer no ?

[hexed mountain]

your hits are big enough to freeze withou hoarfrost

[cobalt blade]

surely balanced right

[hexed mountain]

the barkskin tree got buffed since

[karmic gust]

i think i would just go slayer for regular static

[cobalt blade]

Definitely no flasks that would want negative or positive multipliers like olroth and progen

[hexed mountain]

its actually a very solid branch if you can afford it

[karmic gust]

you kinda want the aoe

probably

[karmic drift]

anyone know a way I can check what the prices of the Pride sublime vision jewel was last league?

[karmic gust]

i would want some for sure

[left nexus]

i mean you could scale high ES + high armour no? i feel like it shouldnt be less tanky than normal archmage? you can also leech ES and maybe use agies from there is just how to protect / scale life

[karmic gust]

especially with the base radius buff the targretting range with the slayer aoe is gonna be fat

[fossil mural]

Imagine you could do new ammy with 100 mom

[split maple]

if you go eldritch battery i dont think you want to lean too much into getting significiant amount of es - much better to not take eb if you hit like 10k es

like i wouldnt do eb above 1-2k es

[prime hill]

man fuck

[cobalt blade]

you just click corrupted soul and dont play eb

[fossil mural]

Ninja doesnt have it?

[cobalt blade]

corrupted soul op

[safe schooner]

yeah and the culling is nice with this kind of mecanic imo

[prime hill]

one thing I don't like about poe 2 gear is needing to corrupt gear

😔

and we're getting volatile vaal orbs now huh

[main pike]

Why does rues ambi build use a dagger am I missing something

[cobalt blade]

imagine not doing that in 1

[fossil mural]

The best part

[left nexus]

thats a possability i consider but for that you can only do it with the newish amu that let you pay ES as cost instead of mana right? i considered maybe doing that + CI or maybe doing that + ivory tower ?

[karmic drift]

poeninja just lists the generic jewel cant choose what version of it.

[prime hill]

can't corrupt mirror gear

[fossil mural]

You "corrupt" rares too

[split maple]

whispers do be good yea

[cobalt blade]

You can

You just need to make your own mirror rares

[prime hill]

true

[cobalt blade]

Lock corrupt off item sells to vendors

[fossil mural]

You corrupt mirror gear to make dozens of mirrors gear

[frigid wedge]

whispers would be good for my lightning conduit but then i dont trigger kitavas

;-;

[hexed mountain]

damn looking at goratha's 3.25 tree and seeing champions' node "you have 15 fortify" xd XD

[cobalt blade]

Which sebk this did league

[cobalt blade]

Ye do that in poe 1 as well

albiet at really high invest

[prime hill]

yeah, now you'll need to do it on mid invest aswell ig

[left nexus]

yah thats the one i considered. im just checking more options. but if you can comfortably get 70-80% dmg taken from mana before life without much of a sacrifice wouldnt EB and high ES still be good becuse only 30/20% of dmg will go to life?

[frigid wedge]

u can get 100% btw

[prime hill]

since it rolls over, +4 wands etc are possible

[frigid wedge]

of dmg taken from mana before life

[karmic gust]

i think overcorruption will be in same category as temperings and shit

[split maple]

i rly want to slap overcorrupt on explodey body

[karmic gust]

dont think you will be mass corrupting items with it

[cobalt blade]

we don't know if this will hold true in 1

[fossil mural]

How many wands have +3 as a single mod

[frigid wedge]

wait what changed?

that we gotta do now

[cobalt blade]

but also pretty sure poe2 it only rounds up if its over 50% of the way there

[cobalt blade]

volatile vaal orb

[frigid wedge]

what it do

[cobalt blade]

It does the poe2 multiplier to mods

[fossil mural]

Depends where it drops too. It sounds like something you only get from like corrupted vessels in mirage or some shi

[karmic gust]

well thats just normal rounding right :d

[prime hill]

normally it's impossible to roll amulets in 2 to 4 if

it worked normally

[cobalt blade]

So *1.2 to item mods

[frigid wedge]

so its a half mist for all slots

[cobalt blade]

yes but poe1 always rounds down here

[prime hill]

but they're rounding over so

most likely gonna change that aswell

5 flasks mageblubs where

[left nexus]

wouldnt apply to chaos dmg tho right? + mind giving all the ways to get it? i dont think reaching 100% is mandatory at all cost. . but if can get like 80 with minimal sacrfifice in gear and building hybrid with ok life should be good enough no?

[frigid wedge]

just was letting you know

[fossil mural]

Viper said pretty much everything outside of corrupting and sanctifing works the same

[frigid wedge]

aylardex has dmg from mana first on it

[cobalt blade]

hmmm interesting

[fossil mural]

And poe1 didnt have those mechanics

[cobalt blade]

wdym

This is fully possible in 1 without any rounding

[prime hill]

+4 amulets in poe 2 is what im talking about

[prime hill]

there

[split maple]

viper said that

[frank sable]

Will aylardex work with the new mirage vaal orbs to get 1.2% per power charge

[split maple]

not that it acts that way

[prime hill]

with oversanc etc

[frigid wedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/s/dbxIHYQGt7

[frigid wedge]

unlikely

[karmic gust]

smh viper baiting

[fossil mural]

Yea still have no idea if it rounds up or not

[cobalt blade]

Ah yes im just assuming that it rounds down like in 1 but if it doesnt cool

[left nexus]

ya but this one is a big sacrifice . doesnt give dmg on amu and also - 40% crit per power charge . but maybe theres syntasis implicit on rings/jewels? etc?

[cobalt blade]

Which now i assume it doesnt again

[left nexus]

tyvm

[fossil mural]

Also wild how he didnt know it existed

[cobalt blade]

need to test it ingame since its nuts if it does

[fossil mural]

Its nuts regardless

Poe2 was balanced around it

[cobalt blade]

idont think thats crazy you cant know everything

[fossil mural]

Poe1 isnt

[cobalt blade]

yea

But its even more nuts if it is

[split maple]

i just pray it doesnt mess up the item divine

[fossil mural]

Its a new currency, its not a small thing tbh

[split maple]

would make it close to useless outside of tradie gambas

[cobalt blade]

like the obvious ones are 90% loreweave and 5 flask mb

[karmic gust]

5 flask mb isnt even useful ngl

[prime hill]

you're in a rude awakening if it works like poe 2

[cobalt blade]

if it werent for shrine belt id disagree

ES casters wouldve loved it

but yknow shrine belt

[fossil mural]

I mean, its fine? I personally dont like unique flasks

But tides would be huge no

[cobalt blade]

tinctures for melee

[fossil mural]

Extra effect and charges

[main osprey]

i'm super excited to see 20% underrolled guaranteed stats bro 😭

[prime hill]

ngl would be useful for es casters as naca said

[fossil mural]

Well I dont play melee normally And hate tinct as well

[cobalt blade]

skill issue or something

[karmic gust]

even those can still do stuff like explody flask right, but yeae i guess for single target most of them dont have good unique flask

[prime hill]

but then 80% of the builds I play is worse with mageblub

[split maple]

do you even play salty

[prime hill]

so I'm fine

[fossil mural]

Smadge

[frigid wedge]

salty plays long enough to insult ppl about their builds by proxy to his

[prime hill]

ig if I had to actually explain my niche they'd be ballistas and mines

[frigid wedge]

and then leaves

[split maple]

oh wait a sec

over corrupt celestial brace

[cobalt blade]

lets say u take the average flasks of max res crit silver bismuth(to free up suffixes for more int) you can now also run jade to help fix up the mastery being nerfed

just as a quick example

or qs for qol

[fossil mural]

Yea I was looking at it

But its 2 fort max. Is that really that good

[split maple]

yes

[frigid wedge]

my niche is whatever makes my dynamic resolution decrease whenever i deal dmg

[prime hill]

ig tamings actually have value outside of early league now

[karmic gust]

btw wouldnt loreweave be 95% max res (or 93 is it .22 or 20), or how does the math work there

[prime hill]

to pick up

[frigid wedge]

i was tryna play my impending doom yesterday without dynamic reso and i had 17 fps

[cobalt blade]

93 if its 1.2 but hard caps at 90 anyway

even if you have 93 max from stuff

[prime hill]

my poe 1 journey is like

[karmic gust]

i guess you are overriding -max by it being loreweave anyway

so the overcap deosnt matter

[cobalt blade]

and i doubt loreweave would override but its weird

yea

[hoary scarab]

its 1.22 for uniques in poe2, but we dont know for poe1

[prime hill]

self casters>ignite builds>ballistas of everything>mines now

[fossil mural]

They might even nerf it

Who knows

[frank sable]

100% mom will be even easier to get with mirage vaal orbs , you can get 36% mom on mind of the council

[cobalt blade]

Also 7 socket loreweave

[hoary scarab]

[cobalt blade]

Probably will get excluded from scaled mods but its funny

[zenith citrus]

Fuck it just go replica loreweave

[fossil mural]

Ggg can lock mods on uniques

[cobalt blade]

Ya

[fossil mural]

Tbh would be funny

Says 7 sockets

But nothing changed

[wispy wing]

oh damn 😳 mirage vaal orbs making mom even easier 36% on mind of the council sounds busted lol

[karmic gust]

its possdible the loreweave max res is excluded already anyway tho

[split maple]

defiance of destiny would be a nice one to overcorr too

[karmic gust]

because they did hat thing before because of temperings

[cobalt blade]

so actually we have had over socket items before from bugs

[karmic gust]

tailorings

[cobalt blade]

It sort of puts them off screen

Its really cursed

Its in one of empyrians meme museums if you want to dig it up

there was also x sockets i think

[prime hill]

[cobalt blade]

that were invisble and buggy

[wispy wing]

ahhh yeah that makes sense 😅 they’ve done stuff like that before with temperings so kinda expected lol

[cobalt blade]

(like when you ctrl c the socket showed as x instead of BRGW)

[cobalt blade]

It is unscalable value rn buti hope volatiles override that

[prime hill]

xero socket, the new socket type

[fossil mural]

60% coils and shi

Also very interesting

[prime hill]

with how much they nerfed conversions

[cobalt blade]

Since theres alot of random unscalable values on uniques in 1

[karmic gust]

well if they dont like heist orbs doing it then i bet they wont like mirage vaal orbs doing it either

[prime hill]

I'm sure they're nuking whatever left of it

[cobalt blade]

like coil is also iirc

[cobalt blade]

yea but idk give us fun powercreep

[fossil mural]

"Unscalable" doesnt mean cant overcorrupt

[zenith citrus]

Could be mirror rarity drop kappa

[cobalt blade]

^

[frigid wedge]

mirage vaal orbs are just an excuse to nerf all the decent uniques bc they were too strong when u increase rolls

[prime hill]

but yeah in poe 2 it works with divineable affixes only no?

[cobalt blade]

Yes i did say i hope it overrides

[wispy wing]

yeah fr 😅 those random unscalable values on uniques make everything kinda messy and inconsistent

[cobalt blade]

The horror

[main osprey]

no

[fossil mural]

Fbl jewels got a big hit

[cobalt blade]

mmmm

[fossil mural]

Could be...

[frigid wedge]

which ones?

[main osprey]

you could get valakos which have a flat 100% conversion fire to lightning to be 80% or 120%

[fossil mural]

Mostly the "fire res in radius as life" and stuff

[karmic gust]

they could just make pass on those as well

maybe they did even its not something that would be in patch notes most likely

[frigid wedge]

that was on cws

[main osprey]

any numerical affix was vaa-able

[cobalt blade]

redbluegreen dream/nightmare all got hit

[split maple]

soul ascension overcorr 🤔

[prime hill]

ah now I just remembered the painters gloves etc

okay ty for reminder

[frigid wedge]

what did blue and green nightmare foulborns even do

evasion and es?

[cobalt blade]

One of them did max mana

Idk the other

[split maple]

blue is es

[prime hill]

vaaling is way more risky in poe 1 anyway

[fossil mural]

All the ones that gave something from res

[split maple]

for dreams, nightmares are converts

[fossil mural]

Got nerfed

I think

[split maple]

yea

[fossil mural]

From 75 to 50

[thin leaf]

welp ig we ball

[cobalt blade]

or 100>75

for some

[zenith citrus]

Wow 3deep5me

[karmic gust]

the conversion ones didnt no

[fossil mural]

How many times did you click

[karmic gust]

the ele to chaos

[prime hill]

in 2 you don't have the rare item brick outcome

[main osprey]

i think i read that the new djinn vaal orbs have a reduced chance to turn the items rare as well

[thin leaf]

1

[main osprey]

so its just not just pure dogshit

[fossil mural]

Sure buddy

[thin leaf]

Actually 2 but I removed earthshatter

dont wanna play that xd

[prime hill]

nice

[cobalt blade]

Those are betrayal bench vaal orbs that can let you hit 2 implicits on a random unique

you cant actually get them

[fossil mural]

Those are from res too? Ig

[karmic gust]

yea

[zenith citrus]

I think I read that new vaal orb can make your pp bigger

[prime hill]

technically you do but only for the chaos helm

[cobalt blade]

but anyway gn :3 yall have fun

[frigid wedge]

gn naca

[prime hill]

gn

[frigid wedge]

do we have an unvaal orb

[fossil mural]

The day that happens

[frigid wedge]

a laav orb if u will

[thin leaf]

vaaln't orb

[zenith citrus]

You want to make ur pp smaller?

[prime hill]

guys what happens if I vaal orb my catto, she becomes a doggo?

[zenith citrus]

24% chance to become catgirl or catboy

[fossil mural]

Or grows a human head

[cobalt blade]

poof outcome pls

[prime hill]

[frigid wedge]

focc

[native abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-tom-delonge-what-the-gif-13829782

[prime hill]

NAUR

[fossil mural]

What are some uniques with downsides you want to lower

[night fulcrum]

do we know where the anoint belt is coming from ? is it blight ?

[zenith citrus]

Yes

[fossil mural]

Yes

Miraged blight

[prime hill]

anyways back to work

[night fulcrum]

ty

[soft perch]

@onyx adder ziggys opinion on sweep made me laugh

https://youtu.be/GZl2-PtK3jY?t=1420

[main osprey]

like abyssus damage taken lowered but crit dmg increased

[soft perch]

@junior otter

[karmic gust]

lmao

[soft perch]

it sure tracks

[fossil mural]

Nice rework, ggg

[soft perch]

70% attack speed is not it

[fossil mural]

Does it at least still have

Quality radius

[karmic gust]

the aoe is also turbo ass :d

[fossil mural]

It should have become a strike

[soft perch]

oh neat the new greater shrines add phys as extra

[gentle chasm]

[soft perch]

shocking freezing and skeletal

another guardian W

[fossil mural]

Wtf does skeketal give? Chaos?

Also big buff to charlatan

Ek

[delicate otter]

Oh shit, ziggy's video

[onyx adder]

At least he's honest

[fossil mural]

Altho doesnt make up for other shrine nerfs

[karmic gust]

also i did not knew about this vid that is why ppl were confirming the multistrike thingy

ok now that makes more sense

[onyx adder]

If its too shit for ziggy its way too shot for everyone else

[onyx adder]

Whats ppl confirming

[pulsar vault]

Told ya

Sweep bad

[karmic gust]

only 1 stack per multistrike

[onyx adder]

Dont make me watch ziggy

[soft perch]

wow such a prophet

[onyx adder]

Ah

[hexed mountain]

to be fair you would probably do slayer on sweep

[soft perch]

i think you would probably never do sweep

[onyx adder]

Did we get answers to any other questions

[hexed mountain]

you want them overlaps and the hammer drop based on targets so they dont spread

[onyx adder]

About static strike

[pulsar vault]

I have done a Sweep build, Impale and Bleed :3

[onyx adder]

Obviously the only question about sweep is why

[karmic gust]

no refresh

[hexed mountain]

all we got is that it seemed good and that multistrike is ass

[pulsar vault]

But Holy sweep is worst than old Sweep

[karmic gust]

e.g separate timers per stack

[fossil mural]

Conversion pag

[opaque phoenix]

wtf kf hierophant's defense sucks balls? ds lily rated the build's defense a 2/5 stars. for some reason i thought it was better than that

[hexed mountain]

its better , its holy

[royal storm]

Anyone got ideas for Cryogenesis?

[junior otter]

Yeah I'm gonna be real that does it

[karmic gust]

he doesnt have +1 strrike so cant rly tell anything else

[onyx adder]

U can ignore ziggy's opinions on power forever, good or bad

[soft perch]

individual stacks is

sad

[onyx adder]

Ok well thats also expected but bad

[hexed mountain]

lily unironically rated necro HRoC defenses 1.5

[fossil mural]

Slot duration in

[junior otter]

If Ziggy thinks sweep is that bad I'm tapping out

[soft perch]

nice now its worse than other strikes

[hexed mountain]

yeah but on screen it seemed good even with ziggy playing it

[fossil mural]

Gem swap for single target, so good

[zenith citrus]

Getting duration on tree isn't the worst thing in the world

[soft perch]

i literally cannot see the chains happening at all

even though he has 3-4 stacks

[hexed mountain]

that's nice , more clarity

[junior otter]

So what do I play instead