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Mfa buff 😄
what'd you suggest? All hits poison, I have 40% explody, just need a skill to play it with
Blunderbore + gull for over 200% effect for +3 charges pag
wouldnt this be kinda scuffed now witout defiled
no, why would it be?
ignite duration is 6.3 sec
respawn time of stuff is 4 sec
is this on the main 3.28 patch notes?
nice, looking like a casie pob
yea did not had pob open, i guess thats good enough
great
imagine the damage on marohi
Where new gems
Actually youd need blunderbore, gull, guardian and one sword for 10% buff effect
Don't have POB up, how many stages is this?
Searing bond of detonation
10
And it can overroll area
My worry would be blowing up your golems, so no golem buffs to the ignite
Was a fun one to build
meh that's like a 10% cut
forgor, does it work on values that don't have ranges?
the golem buffs are just for mapping
Mostly
Huh we getting 1.34 multi?
Ggg can lock certain mods
Viper said it rounds up. Well, hinted
This is irrelevant actually
I wonder if you even go ele tbh, there's foulborn dyadian dawn now no
you need ele for the golem respawn
Viper said poo2 rounding works same as poe1 but maybe had more exceptions, I wouldn't call that a hint it rounds up there
Do you need golems?
another fun interaction with the new vaal orb is 100%+ unveiled mod effect on cane
yes to make mapping not cringe
Is ur weapon taken now
Fair fair
so you can get +4 to socketed support gems
Amulet is timepiece?
yea
So no spark
That seems kinda sad tbh, golems just for that
Oh wait a bit how much explosion chance does this vaal thingie give me
IG it's not nothing
50% elevated crusader explodeys 🤔
Where challenge rewards
more res reduction
Yeah, but chieftain res or smth y'know
Naw
I need my mtx motivation
so we get 5flask magebloods?
This could scares me
U can try ice spear but i always recommend crema for these all damage can poison setups
And whatever good coverage skill u want for clear
crema scales with projectile count, too, doesn't it
Yes
If vaal has same multi as poe2 and if it rounds up same as in poe2
Big ifs
in reality it misses half the time
we farmed one last league lol
well it absolutely is hit by downside of refractor if you cant chain the explosions :d
That was certainly not intended as a hint, I don't even know anything about this item. Literally found out about it the same way you all did
They just admitted they may have powercrept mb. Maybe this is their way of making it catch up
I don’t know what’s going on with my game, but I’m having network latency problems. Right now my ping hit 20,000+. Does anyone know how to fix it?

wdym?
firestorm of meteors is also an opion if you want something simple
does this mean I have to farm alberrons
ooo
👀 how many unrelentings give or take?
cuz 1-80
I like that
I farmed up like 8 or 9 unrelentings and I was nowhere near the majority farmer lol
uuugh Rawr farmed like 60
well you would be hitting exactly single mob wit the ice spear lmao
Possibly 3.5m binos
That's the plan lol
Fucking hell i Got like 5-6 in entire league
And most were karui so not even full set
@karmic gust but don't you think it looks really solid?
we share around scarabs a lot
Yea i suggested cremation partly for this reason
Also because that skill is op when u can scale it
i mean it does look rly good and i think ele is still stupid strong ascendancy
with the other nodes it has
Yeah scarbies aint as much an issue as heck that's a load of 5ways:D
is there a way for Filterblade to set the used filter for Standard League?
Honestly 80% f my pobs this league are still elementalist
does it round up in poe2?
just put em in the gs, someone will run em
does this mean 5 flask mageblood? xD
Yes
just don't know about early availabilty of pragmatism
Idk salty Said it does
Splaff made fun of me for saying some prolif effect was big enough to be a legion farmer, im told nobody runs legion in trade anymore madge
Which prolif was it again
Oh yea the new 2h sword with no damage
It has a bunch of shit stats and an enormous aoe ignite prolif
lol

I just want to play with beacon
like, it supposedly automaticall puts stuff in different tiers
huge pops sound fun
based on the economy of that item
i never saw anyone even us that chest i have no clue where it even comes from lmao
oh king of the mists
It's a king in the mists drop
king of the mists
pragmatism? It's the most common drop from king of the mist
It's what you get when you want ES lom
me: excited about the changes
Friends: man you are always excited about changes, every time you are hyped
me: well yeah they are good and fun changes lol
Someone has to hit nameless ritual and GG
Yeah its common as grass
it's insanely commona nd 1c day 1 lol
Technically with overcorrupt from poe2 pragmatism can become +3 levels for six link

Lel
Whats the exact multi on poo2
I draw my line at allcaps
imagine it's -1 to level of socketed skill gems per sockete4d gem and +18 level of socketed skill gems
1.22
👀
If ur not allcapsing then ur hype is fine
1.22, but you overshoot it a lot. 1.22 is like 14.65
overcorrupt binos prolif, 4.3m prolif huge
I have a couple of builds in mind but i rather start a build as early as possible. Most build switch at the end of campaign. Any good build that start early?
Sameeeee
Where did you get that number
Wtf is crema really good?
crema's always been really good
Second most, according to wiki
But still pretty common and cheap
AAAAAAA
It's just not a playstyle people like
Yea I am slaping that on crusader chest
but poison can keep scaling it
crema hits a lot
It doesnt work on rares no?
Or did they say it does
What why
wait nvm i thought it was 3.5m prolif, its just 3.7m prolif
No fun allowed poe2 orbiee smh my head
Poe2 has 2 orbs
Well
Technically
i think if it works on jewels its gonna be most busted there
Vaal for uniques
you have stuff like watchers, sublimes
And divine+omen for rares
and some very hard to get stats there otherwise
Balance of terror phys as extra vaalie 👀
volatile should work for rares too
oh that'd be insane
Idk I am just saying
Oh wait is 1.22 enough to get 100% phys as fire without sublime
Tides of time
Stronkest
foulborn jewel effects
you miss 10% i think right
Maybe thats why they were all nerfed across the board copege
what about Volatile dead? I used to love that skill, idk how it'd be as a poison skill tho
it has big issues wih targetting
Surely there is some bound by destiny mod
4x Hunter?
if it actually works like poe2 overcorrupt, you can turn 2 to 3 on uniques
well if you have bound by destiny you have that solved already lul
dont need corrupt on top
No, its 3 to 4
because thats the 10% missing
Oh rite you take 2x conv on watcher
yea
After it's popular outing GGG always seemed kinda angry about it existing.
too autoaimey I guess
Fwiw explodies largely solve this problem
news :
i guess thats true
some of these exceptional gems sounds like brand support or maybe mines ?
but also i still dont know if iks has any aoe :d
So okay Grace of the goddess vaalie
becaues you cant just have the boots and they will not just clear for you by default
Practically all the phys as extra stuff is interesting
cause the math is bad either way 
Holy
Thats actually
Fun?
That gem is a lot of damage
wait, trap totems are back
Wow, that's kinda good huh
Rf buff?
Bro that shit will cost multimirror for a good roll
U cant clear with it i dont think
crucible explody totems but for dots holy
They aren't repeating explodey totems right?
The single target is rly big tho
Youd need to stack min power charges
Which goes against single damage
Divines work on them tho
no clue i bet they explode all at once
I assume "detonate" doesn't deal hit damage.
You can go ballistas to pad out count, tho it may not even be needed
or the tooltip would say it
Oh that's really fun.
I mean yea, but poe2 overcorrupt divines first anyway
What
Does cheiftan explode apply to minions?
Why
Correct
No fun allowed poe2 orbie
So you cant perfect sivine a unique
it divines first and then applies the multiplier
And then overcorrupt
Placement range and just use the bond, or RF IG
Whats the bloody point of divine orbs then
It has to perfect roll both times
Thats the question people ask in poe2 often
guess why there is no divine sink in poe2
What are you league starting
oh shit, new searing bond
overcorruption makes having perfect items feel worse.
Phys dot glad
Exploding totems were busted because they had infinite base damage, this isn't that nuts lol.
fbowb ignite totems may legit be on the menu
Like FFS they better fix that if they bringing that to poe1
Cause there is no crafting bench
It should respec my divs
in pathofpathing what should I pick for atlas? atlas or atlas-league?
Make a video guide
is there even a difference
Xdd
gem looks cool
Ask grok to record
And write the script
ait im back, any cool news from the jung interview?
Because of omens.
Have you heard of poo2
We getting a vaal orb that fucks up your divine
Do I gotta watch the stream or can I skippge?
no it was mostly just philosophy/game design questions
very little to do with new league
Or vod rather.
kinda expected it from the filter info but glad to see confirmation
I don't really care for junGROAN.
jungle ryan
John Groan Ryan
Give grok the pob and ask to make a video on it
so, hierophant trapper spawning like 10 totems at once and having them all instantly apply the degen at 300% more damage?
Mr Anathema himself
Pog
pc stack explodey totems
I saw that mf roll his eyes 3 times and I only watched for about 10 min before leaving. Wtf was that about, or does he have some nervous tic or something?
let's fucking go
MFW Holy relic hasnt been touched this league(it got a minor regen buff)
holy relic only gets buffs
Yep, can fully play hroc
Oh fuck.
For the 3rd league in a row
would hroc on a holy strike build be a waste of effort?
All hail our father Balormage
syndicate farmers what r u guys doin for next league
If you can push the new minion gem to 50% more minions, you could get 6 holy relics going.
you'd have to get a lot of attack speed to meet breakpoints on the weapons holy strike allows
Farming syndicate
I need to get my hands on that gem immediately.
W/o dark monarch?
With.
that is if they stack
Hmm.

I like my bob.
im going as many holy hammers brother
But when you have 6 relics, monarch becomes very worth it.
Wdym? You only need one totem to actually hit
I gotta check the new gems
But the tethers maybe stack
can you have 2 AGs actually
6 relics is crazy
did they show the new searing bond? i dont see it in gem info
then there would be no need to use 10 totems
quite unlikely tbh
Its for the bottom line bruh
yes gem weird
you have to reach totem cap to make them pop
Man Jungroan and the devs were talking about "choice within an ascendancy"
There's no dark monarch mod for it so no.
and that's the exact problem that several ascendancies absolutely lack
hiero with multi totem support, gg
painge
AND the bloodlines suck so much so they wouldn't pull away from the base ascendancies
hm yeah i guess
6 totem limit with 3 max pc, 7 with shaper shield
But in the meantime, how many of those bloodlines offer support to existing ascendancies?
Lmaoo imagine 2 bobs with 2 kingmakers
There are a bunch of bloodline minion nodes when Necromancer is already spoiled for choice
get 9 pc, shaper shield, and all the totem stuff and you get 13 max totem limit lol
3-4
looks fun actually
It looks genuinely good as a gem that you can scale.
The vaal one only has two choices, one of which is a meme
Which is great.
Farul, lycia, idk pick the one you like most of the other ones but trialmaster or aul
then like inner conviction and scale dot multi i guess
i am a minion enjoyer so i am happy that there are minion bloodlines
Trialmaster asc is great lol.
Farrul offered one node that just got blown up
on the other side i don't use the minion bloodlines
Trialmaster asc is great if you're specifically a vaal build
How did it Got blown up
If you could get 2 bobs you'd just go with the trans version and have them beat the shit out of everything.
yeah thats the purpose
the tigers had their health cut in half
Kittens still give crit and as
Well, I know what I'm league starting, what's everyone else doing?
Its awkward to make it both clear well and scale single target. I am not sure what burning means in this context.
RF buff
wait that dot can get huge
Tiger health isn't a relevant stat.
You resummon them in half a sec
Or less
Like its rly nonissue
I might actually go for Dark monarch this league, in 3.26 I had full MB/adorned, thought of doing monarch but AG was too op then.
one thin im wondering will the hiero's more dmg per summoned totem apply before or after the explode happens
like do you actually benefit from it
What do you mean?
And then Farrul's spectre
I don't think sane RF players are gonna sit there summoning totems to do single target
it's like "so hiow am I supposed to keep this thing alive in juiced content?"
If it's the tiger that is
By it being perfect tutel?
You don't take Both nodes
faster attack speed
as if they weren't already standing there spamming fire trap or scorching ray
on most stuff like this you still do right
so hopefully
turtle is a beast
like you have to be a minion build already and invest into minion life already
Yeah turtle survives
Dots from non persistent effects do snapshot so i would assume u get the bonus
i think so but not completely sure
Yes for the bottom node you take the bloody perfect turtle
oh, good luck with that
U got it from explody totems so
but turtle = determination
It was hard but managed to do my first build though old build but new asc
so you have to specifcially be an armor build to make full use of turtle
oh ye you did actually tha ts good reason to think it works
guys do you think guff/haku in intervention will be good? 
You only care for node buff if you take that
eh? everyone can benefit from turtle
Otherwise Just take kitties
makes the skill look pretty legit 
Coz it lives
ong indigon dot totems will go so hard
Well for the scaling part, if you want more single target you get more pcs. But if you want to clear with it comfortably you want them to explode on initial cast. You probably cant summon 13 totems with one cast right? And for burning damage - it says enemies take fire dot while in the tether, but you can also make them start burning. I am not sure whats the difference between burning and just taking fire dot.
det also gives base armour and turtle also gives you flat pdr
wait wait wait
i still dont think its gonna top fire trap
can we abuse new searing bond with cluster traps
Would be nice if determ got reworked to offer flat % phys reduction
time to take deathbeams pob and convert it to totems 
Oh yes please
but actually i dont think you go indigon since its somuch investment to make that mana work lmfao
Well, I know what I'm league starting, what's everyone else doing?
please no
hm the searing bond is already highest dot in the game with baseline power charges
Time to craft introspction clusters
it all comes back to poison with an asterisk
We getting phys immune
why not ?8(
burning is anything that deal fire damage over time
armour stackers
we might be going explode totems 2.0 with the new gems that just got revealed
they would have to remove one of the armour lines to make that a reasonable change lol
I mean armor stackers are already phys immune
It says specifically they can take fire dot without burning?
it's specifically not ignite tho
but you can surely proc a fat ignite off the explode
It's traps really for exploding them immediately, same as crucible.
In terms of burning, highest one takes priority so explode dot always gonna be the thing.
it doesnt look like it hits tho
no hit damage mentioned
where was this found?
I'm gonna do esxang mines elementalist and farm blight and harvest so I can get and harvest craft cord belts.
What does that question mean?
so instead of doing billions of hit dmg and dot capping, we just get dot cap
oh wait
actually not really they take less ele damage than phys but uh the problem would be theyd need to remove one of the lines from it to add pdr w/o it being broken :p
wait lmao
fucking rip
where did the image come from?
Twitter and reddit.
which does nerf armour stacker
there's no hit on it apparently
oh I saw it on path of exile builds reddit
so i don't think explode totems 2.0 is real
its dot not hit, so spamming totems wont work
and i assume multiple dots from multiple detonations dont stack
then again it isn't ignite
it's just generic burning damage
Still the dot will be juicy from the detonation
i don't get it
weird skill
scorching ray on multiple totems stacks
since the detonation scales per number of totem it shouldnt stack
It deals burning damage, but only enemies at the end of tether take burning damage?.. Either I am stupid or this has issues
detonate into dot?
Correct.
if you get more max totems it does more dmg but takes longer to get to max totems
you bypass this with traps
it just apply a dot, and if the totem explode they dont hit they put the dot on closeby ennemies with a 30%more multi per totem
and I assume the detonation deletes the totems?
how so
If they're in the beam they take damage
yes
Yes.
yes u are
your goal is to detonate th totems for dmg
Yes, now read the line after
rather than the beams
cluster traps etc, to summon more than a dozen totems at once
but you also nerf dmg, so you need to make sure getting them out faster truly helps
About either end of tether
That was the worst interview I ever seen ever. Who tf was that random ass bald guy??
The scaling vectors are different but the concept is exactly the same as explodey totem.
...at the cost of support gems
quantrix, some league guy
@past mantle did you see my new leaguestarter pob?
Oh Muphy is back
I dont care what the goal is. The tether dot lines sound wrong
this is how it was done back in 3.20
Was it the glacial cascade miner you updated?
Lmaooooo
catarina bloodline is good
Cata bloodline is great.
yeah, for minions
very good, but only if you can use it properly, its insane on DP
Hello can I get a refund from a bought MTX? Want to know how if possible
its the same wording on regular searing
Farrul: minions
contact support
Catarina; minions
That's if they're not in the beam they still take damage
Yea, wtf does that mean
Are you detonating your spectres?
email support
who knows
ye
but either way your goal is detonating them lol
Good luck.
ignore what pobbin says about 60m, it's basically dot cap ignite + burning ground
there are lines between you and each totem + between totems, they deal dot
hmm?
So "suffer burning damage" means it applies the 4 second debuff?
it never hit, it just put a dot between totems and you
I didn’t use the MTX after I bought do you think this helps with the refund? Or doesn’t have anything to do it
You gonna farm exarch or eater with that?
offerings can be good to anyone with queen's body
no, just mapping
Farul, lycia, aul, trialmaster are all used by nonminion builds. Prolly missing one or two more
Shouldn't matter.
Thats such a weird way to put it
Like idk whats your issue Ilya
Ok thanks for the help guys
not sure, but afaik if you dont do this too often they will prob refund it for you
@past mantle spectre is perfect dark marionnette - it respawns, like my golems, which also respawn
Aul is nice for the action speed can't be reduced, farrul for crit cats
think +1 ring saw use for some minions too
Can searing bond of detonation totem explode itself for insta pop?
That is gonna take a hot minute to respawn still. It's 4s on both.
they explode when you reach max searing bond totems
yeah, 4 seconds
Was gonna league start with trickster exsanguinate mines and bought the mercury one but now I don’t want to do trickster 
for clearing you just pop 1
5.5k flat burn that scales with spell damage at 3 pc
if you place over the cap yes
and you have 4 specters and 6 golems
for bosses you pop all and the ignite last long enough that everything will have respawned
yeah its already biggest dot skill in the game at baseline charges, and hiero gets 1 for free
you could reduce your totem limit to pop them immediately, but it wouldn't do much.
it's not quantrik, its this guy :https://liquipedia.net/leagueoflegends/Spawn
So technically I need negative power charges
If you think that's good clear, build looks good. 
@past mantle I've played it before, it's decent clear
No you want more power charges to scale the dot with the detonation
no its quantrik
Yea for clear with traps... surely wont be jank
but you get increased dmg per totem
Why are we trying to reinvent the crucible wheel?
Hiero can spam totems especially with emerge speed now

Shhhh. That shit was busted
Okay, and?
cause traps 🥀
thats exactly why this was designed in a way you cant do old explode totems again
How many totems can you summon per cast manually
Maybe ignore traps
2
like 3?
or 3 ye
So are kalguran scarab of refinement gonna be giga expensive this league?

Kinda bummed then. Dps increase for rf regardless
Possibly not, because the dudes work much faster
So maybe its not a very important scarab
Doubt it.
honestly if you only go like 4-5 totems, its aight
dont power charge stack
it also seems like if you over-trap, then as they explode/die the traps will keep popping and refilling you to max totems
Still 2 casts for explode. For clear sounds meh.
Hiero so much placement speed the emerge is gonna be near instant now
testing 9 max totems with regular searing bond rn
Maybe if you clear with tether/rf
Like over 200%
is it worth upgrading my int accuracy stacker
didnt they change how totem placement speed works
https://pobb.in/-bAs7qWaTc-X I prefer BSoS for less clunkiness
with my standard funds
yes but its irrelevant for this skill
my build's a leaguestarter tho (well take out the FF/FF that's probably not happening on day 2)
in fact the change was a nerf for this
Maybe not for clear, if they only explode once fully placed
or no nvm
Excuse you what the actual fuck xd
It's a spell tho
thats my point
yes I know it's pretty popular
but BSoS doesn't have maw of mischief as a required unique technically
0.5 sec placement speed instead of 0.35, so its gonna feel a lot better now than after the change
or farmable with cards on SSF within an hour or so
actually wasnt that the activation delay not placement speed?
i might actually yolo league start this
So what are y'all starting? I have no clue what to play
wait it is ranged
oh yeah
And its a nerf to base placement speed 
Static Strike (non-transmute) shockwave mana stacker
should be no difference for normal totems, only ballistas
definitely gonna play an awful homebrew build like always
consecrated path inquisitor
For exp you use bleed just to proc explodes
also doing cpath but slayer
So its not really bleed
cause i want easy mode for league starter
wrong
Hmm.
you use bleed because it ignores all expedition mods
Where can I see the minions support gems that are being added?
You use phys dot
Holy Strike is not going to interact well with extra strikes is it
nowhere
eh is there no immune to phys damage
That actually ignores mods
I've done it before
There is
Only mod that actuallt affects phys dot really
yeah every build is affected by immune
but those are highlighted
we don't count those
Yea on shit expedition im guessing
I just go ignite prolif for exped
Bleed is pretty good vs expedition but i do agree non ailment dots are better, with the exception that poison prolif is also really good
no
Ignite avoid is like the most common mod
In exp
expedition is immune to ignite regularly
Ignite for juiced exped isn't the play.
Not just the avoid hits mod but also bleed sucks versus proxy shields since bleed explosions dont chain
it wasn't a big deal with vaal earthquake 
too lazy to do bleed
So u end up having to clear more
Where is jung roan interview
Seems like Dark monarch might be better for endgame than Geoffris for HRoC
plus my builds can't handle juiced exped anyways
not worth the time imo
sadge
Wdym?
I watched it, it was mostly just talk about general design philosophy
very little information about the upcoming league at all
I mean if that's what you like to see, then sure it's nice I guess
so the new searing bond has 30% more burning damage per totem detonated
oh exped is gonna be nice with mirage instance
300% more if you detonate 10 totems, with base damage of 2.5k
What is it on, can’t see it on YouTube
that is a lot of flat damage
That's gotta be what, like at least 7 damage
7.5
and it sounds like they detonate at the same time rather than sequentially
I bet you won't do searing bond totems though
So now to get some increased into mix

hm maybe unironically that ammy with the new searing, doesnt crit anyway
Cook me indigon pob by tomorrow
you think i won't? I've done regular searing bond + fbowb totems

nomegalul on the indigon
@fossil mural I farmed a mageblood on day 2 using Expedition Scarab of Archaeology in settlers btw using vaal earthquake bleed glad
Depends on its level scaling ig
wasn't there a way to convert spell damage to attack damage?
true
crown of eyes
No takebackies
fireflower in poe1 where 

Ill look into that, but it sounds just worse than phys dot because of hit avoidance
esm dark mode
it was occassionally annoying but vaal earthquake hits a lot so mostly wasn't a problem
where does bleed get prolif
if you have some good phys dot pobs that are as tanky as lucky block glad, let me know
or is it explosions
no way Vaal questions and answers
They explode
yeah you just run through with phasing lol
i can't believe this shit
Mastery
ghazzy made a dom blow guardian instead of necromancer, the gods smile upon me
damn attacks have it easy
Ye
throw one for the spell casters por favor
Spells open chests
Its all balanced

this was my theorycrafting at the time

lightmode user, request denied
i refuse to believe lightmode users are real
I saw that, didnt read every comment 
must be some AI agent
@karmic gust
i dont use light mode smh
@fossil mural I must admit I'm slightly interested in this skill for clearing expedition
wtf is a floe
the lady from the progressive ads
floe is a noun that specifically refers to a mass of floating ice, whereas flow can be both a noun and a verb related to the movement of liquids or the seamless progression of anything.
Yea I was thinking on cold dots, but they get mogged by both res and generic dr
While phys dots ignore armour, resists and you can use maim for 10% inc damage taken
Which basically doubles damage against 90dr
Could go aura effect on blasphemy frostbite from the ring, that pretty much negates +res
the resistance is fair
like ice cream that weirdly float from my fridge to my hand, nothing I can do about it
it just happen
Curse immunity is one of the most common mods too
tons of builds have inc dmg taken though
Hard to apply it
Its usually shock
Bonechill Support is a support gem that grants the supported skill more cold damage and increased chill effect. Chills from supported skills also cause enemies to take increased cold damage (from all sources) equal to the strongest chill affecting them.
calcs for pobing new searing bond if anyone wants to do it
even more than your idea
what build should i go for in 3.28
Immunity to chill
if you get the combination, then sure
Fair fair
This is why i still think chaos dot is the best build for expedition if u want to do nothing else
Wither shits on that mod
Just from my testing double remnant + big bomb is guaranteed brick on like everything
Wither is hard to apply so early
bombastic totems
@fossil mural my problem with phys dot is that there's no good build to play 🙁
is the 36% less damage from trap support
at least none I've seen
Yea I just copied ele set ups personally
Without the golems
Xdd
no, its to take normal searing bonds base to the new gems
Still good
big boom expedition without 96% block is a no-go for me
gotcha
I never Play expe big boom because there is no limit of max 4 dmg immunities
Worked well enough
exsanguinate is pretty good no ?
the dmg immunities you just read and work around
especially mines
no dmg and don't like swapping to reap for single target
that's hit based
Like how do you apply max wither consistently
On all mobs
Day 1
I think only that unique wand can do it
i do believe you can get to 21 max totems quite easily for this
You hit them with kb
@fossil mural if you can make it work the bloodsoaked banner is proabbly the best farmer btw
Then chaos dot
what about bleed bow stuff ?
Yea but its exceptional. It is def the best variant
is ass, unlike vaal earthquake which ihts everything all the time that runs into 'avoid dmg' mod a lot
No block you get mogged, have to kite a lot
And damage is just ass
And still runs into hit avoidance
how ass are we talking though ? like storm brand lvl of ass or actually garbage ?
what about corrupting cry?
I think bleed bow in general feels bad to play
dont talk that about my storm brand

wdym your storm brand ?
im playing storm brand too 
unless i accidently play spectres somehow
I've never played it
sure but then you gotta summon them all
Useless for clear
the loss to woke added lighting is tragic though
huh? I'm talking about the cry itself
hopefully we have exceptional gems that do something for brands
use traps imo
yeah, just gotta get throwing speed somewhere
forget spectres, if u love storm brand like me, arakaaly spiders is your next build
run around while everything burn
21 totems for like 80% less dmg cause you gotta use traps
that didnt do it for me tbh. i just dont like cyclone its too slow
rather use 4-5 totems and have comparable dmg without traps
cyclone? hahaha
u can use sunblast to get around the cluster traps downside tbf
isent that how arakali works ?
thats still not worth it
sunblast feels garbage without huge throwing speed
that's what im talking about, and its low dmg in this versiion like 70M dps
i made one PoB with 252M
what language is that
is there ever an angle where you go 0 max power charges to have searing bond of detonation always explode instantly?
Oh wait, it applies 4 stacks itself? Yea that could work actually. I thought it applies only with attacks exerted
how do you spwan the spiders though
that looks comfy
Little question: Is holy shield so bad? i see all Holy skills but holy shield is not in...^^
Honestly, I might farm settlers this league. I havent touched it at all.
its comfy af, we do nothing hahaha
you mean this?
how do you spawn the spiders at first ?
Walking sim
maybe time to pob a corrupting cry build
when in doubt, worms
this gloves make the spiders self-sustain
at first we use the worm flask
ah yes this new realitation skill .^^
This might be better than cf
sry i mean builds for it .^^
and for ubers ?
its prolly alright, but its not on the radar til we actually know how it works mechanically ingame
penance mark ?
Also you don't necessarily need the gloves, if I remember correctly (might be completely wrong?) as long as the things die to the spider's poison (and not a direct spider hit), the kill is considered yours by virtue of being a dot kill
ok i think holy hammer will the new Volcanic fissure of snaking ... 😄
Thing is with cf you can apply it to all expedition mobs at once
do you have a pob you can share? looks really cool
Cause wand skills have insane coverage
holy hammers does look incredibly solid yea
No
So congregation support with Holy relic and Dark monarch could get like 5/6 relics?
yes
no, we can use the flask 3 times if im not wrong
Its only 38% at max lvl and qual
3 minutes to kill uber is enough
you'd still run into the 'avoid' problem, no? how would you apply?
With cf you dont care for damage
Like, Gravebind is only realistically necessary if you're killing your worms with your minions, and not with a spell
which, ya know, can happen
is smite just more damage than smite of divine judgement
I care for dmg, I think the new expeditions are going to be rather juicy
Like an attack can do 0 damage and it apply cf stack
shit we don't know what the quality does on new searing bond
yeah but its clunky, sometimes dont work and u stop the walking simulator
smite for supports, smite of divine judgement for carries
oh in that sense
i wonder if it's still +2 totems
That's the neat part. I only read craft of exile and poedb
Assume I'm solo.
Divine ire and worm flask is the normal play
That's got more to do with spiders not refreshing their duration though, the issue is that if you spawned all of your spiders at the same time, they will despawn at the same time
so, even with the gloves, if you spawned everything at the same time, they'll despawn all at the same time ; if that happens between packs, then y'oure fucked
Volatile Vaal orb is just Vaal orb with new effect or is it like a double corrupt poof or work situation?
so 15 totems with 10 max power charges, 16 if using shaper shield, 18 if shaper shield and if the quality gives +2 max
then generally divine judgement better
Its poe2 overcorrupt
it's poe 2 vaal orb
Lmao
divines and +- up to *1.22
i have tested a lot and, without these gloves i need to look at the spider's numbers, with them i dont care about nothing is way comfy
I know it’s the divine values effect but can you use it on uncorrupted or no
despite the damage diff?
you can only use it on uncorrupted ye
@fossil mural main reason I find corrupting cry interesting is it's significant'y higher dmg

+1 target vs +5 targets
Yea
theres a bunch of stuff that competes with double corrupt this league
Its also warcries, so maybe some funk there
I was planning my build around enmity ring so that thing can go crazy for me lol
Poe2 double corrupt works on corrupted items

I mean I suppose technically you could want to swap to a normal vaal smite for bosses
But, like, the clear between divine judgement is basic smite is just incomparable
@fossil mural wonder when the first corrupting cry forbidden shako comes on the market
Diy

I just want a 120% darkness enthroned, it's not too much to ask, right
125?
122
Well, 122 if it works like poe2, but 120 would probably be a softcap
heard totems will be broekn now
I'm trying to decide if it's better to use a coin on my exsanguinate or get a lv 21 version
Simple, put setup in PoB w/ lvl 21, then add the lvl 1 support you wanna test and remove 1 exsang level
Anything that works off of stacking and has 3 in it might be crazy
Going from 3 to 4 is huge
the funniest 3 => 4 actually doesn't do 3=>4
The problem is there much fewer lv1 gems that work with mine-skills that can go on the gem... like I can't put minefield on exsanguinate
it's Kulemak, it rolls 60-90% increased effectf of veiled mods, which could in theory vaal up to 109, which would put the +3 support to +4 support
If it were basic exsang I'd imagine Cruelty would be a good choice, but on mines, probably not
(to have at lvl 1 I mean)
on kulemak especially, a perfect roll is technically not a 1.22 but a 1.4484
like, you "double dip"
I did the math 'cos I like death oath and uh
It's also presumably tricky to get the support gem you want on it
Would that be true if it was 4 targets (smite) vs 8 targets (Divine)
compared to getting lv 21
@fossil mural another kind of crazy idea is storm call of trarthus
perfect kulemak would go from 188% increased chaos / 91% chaos dot multi to 279% increased chaos / 135% chaos dot multi
how are you getting the extra smite targets tho
SSF is gonna have a hard time with the coins I reckon
in many ways it's perfect
that's a lot of skill gem levelling
you can pre-stack it since it's ground effect
attack mastery +1 and 1 or 2 from gloves.
since it's a ground effect it should bypass bubbles and block dudes
SEARING BOND SWEEP
1 BONDILLION TOTEMS
thank you for your contribution
Then you're comparing 4 targets to like 20 targets
oh I see.
Divine judgement is lightning strikes 3 (+0.1 x quality) targets within 5 meters w/ 38% more area damage
Holy shit you are right...
So in that case you should just swap to molten strike for Ubers instead of base Smite.
basic smite is strikes 1 (not quality) target within 5 meter w/ 20% less area damage
..flat?
Its 2000 base
Honestly, idk what kind of build you intend to do, but in, uh, mercs, a guildmate went smite armorstacker w/ divine judgement, and he did not, in fact, swap anything for ubers
glad. Generic league start until I can eventually armor stack
Cry and storm call
yeah I was like why would you go glad 😮
if you're playing SC and are not afraid to trip on mana siphoners and die, you should probably consider the early doryprot start
w/ shitty mirrored rings & co
I think the best lv1 gem to get is gonna be high impact mines, it's 6% less than levelling it up to 20, as opposed to most support gems which are 10%... still though, you're losing about 12% on average from going down to 20 versus 21 on the main skill, plus the 6 from the lv1 high impact... that's 18 total dps loss, but it frees up a new support that should be 20-40 more... so on average it should be win, if you can get the right lv1 on the skill
It's high on the list of starts.
that said I dont know how to do it
i wish claude can attend meetings so i can just play poe
get lightning res to -200, other res higher, a lightining taken as cold talisman can help, replica dreamfeather x2, determination, pew pew
can probably even use the new essence to get +6 to determination
so just armour stacking but with extra steps.
armour stacking, lightning edition
Gotcha
and, uh, don't do baran maps
LFMAO
insta death
also dont do that one map with the lightning squid
I don't think it's worth it even if it works, but I'm curious if Gloomfang makes exsanguinate chain?
@fossil mural hmm I think the base dmg on thrarthus is too low
is armour stacking worth it? How much do I need to do this? I assume its a mid/high budget swap. How much armour are we wlooking at
how much consecrated ground effect can we get from the tree
lmao why is galesight on burning wiki page 
Do the Leagues in this game generally require more play-time than Seasons in Diablo 4?
depends on how good you are and how much you want to achieve
Depending on ur goals 40h+
ok quin calm down
Just in general. I typically don't have a massive amount of playtime. Someone told me the other day that investing like 6-ish hours per week in a League is okay. Wondering if Season in Diablo 4 would be more my speed, if it requires less time commitment. Both games seem nice.
But I definitely am not the type to sink tons of time per week into one game.
they require as much playtime as you feel like sinking
diablo is definetly more casual, but in general there is no "required" play time, you set the goals you want to achieve
this searing bond is like free dot cap dps
A bit more casual may be for me, honestly. I remember I played on release and I didn't like the dodging/rolling cooldown. I played POE2 for the first time last night and liked the dodging and sprinting!
Wish I could get D4 but with combat leaning a bit more similar to POE2.
you are in the wrong chat for that, this is the poe1 channel
poe1 has none of that
... oh, whoops.

Woah...
Lmao. Thanks for letting me know. My bad!
about time! gonna be huge