1┃general

[final owl]

makes chat confusing sometimes though

[near crypt]

Tbh I also used manaforged on slayer back in the day because you want life gain on hit rain of arrows anyway

[soft perch]

idk level 30 jack the axe is pretty sick though

its a lot of recovery and damage

[blazing nymph]

Yes, very bonfusing

[near crypt]

And the forbidden combo for aggravate costs a kidney

[final owl]

poor cow is bleeding :/

[soft perch]

cant u manaforge something with crit and click the crit aggravate stuff

also lets u get rupture maybe

[near crypt]

Back in the day I played perfect agony

[soft perch]

im sorry to hear that

[near crypt]

I had 25mil dps with tornado shot

[opaque sphinx]

[leaden quiver]

did we get the numbers already

or just assume +50%

[opaque sphinx]

tainted bless orb when

[soft perch]

uhh

its probably 25%

and 600 regen per bleeding enemy

its weird cuz those sort of skills just have random ass scaling

whatever ggg feels like

[dark sequoia]

Allow me to brick my secret league plans of Jack the Axe reliquarian with foulborn Voll's Vision

[tranquil sedge]

missing 7 int

[opaque sphinx]

workin on it

could get a lot more tbh

swap these for real boot

and chest can crusader int

[leaden quiver]

reliquarian seems good for bleed slams but eh

[opaque sphinx]

oh wait i can div the chest

[tranquil sedge]

once u hit 5k, ill ask you where 10k is

[hoary scarab]

reliquarian seems like an aura bot

[tranquil sedge]

im a true friend in that way

[leaden quiver]

skysunder is so ass though wtf is that

the previous version is better

[opaque sphinx]

[hoary scarab]

why skysunder when fulcrum

[spice pecan]

you have 4 too much int

[dark sequoia]

I guess you dont have to solve immunities?

[onyx adder]

The one reason to run skysunder is that the prolif radius is fucking enormous

[hoary scarab]

dont you still have to solve that

[dark sequoia]

Holy Strike minion instability sounds funny with fulcrum

Sadly I couldn't get runegraft of the loyal to work with fulcrum.

[onyx adder]

Its bigger than old bereks and should scale with aoe

[opaque sphinx]

perfectly balanced

[dark sequoia]

nerfing radius to 1.5
adding 50% less aoe global

[onyx adder]

Someone gonna make legion farmer with it

[hoary scarab]

and yet you say sweep is horrendous aoe 🥀

[dark sequoia]

What's the range on it? Up to 3m?

[onyx adder]

If sweep chained more sweeps off every mob it hit id be hype

It does not chain more sweeps

[hoary scarab]

not with that attitude

[dark sequoia]

like melee version of vaal ice nova?

[soft perch]

people always talk about legion farmers when u can just play any bow build

and get zero loot from legion cuz it sucks

and the new scarab might be better

but requires actual damage cuz its toughness

[hoary scarab]

well with currency pool adjusted and currency conversion rares being more common, legion might be better

[karmic gust]

back to archnem meta

[final owl]

if everything is better isn't legion still bad

[junior otter]

i dont see myself not running breach / exped / harvest tree to start

[karmic gust]

no legion has a lot of rares

[simple stag]

I’ve never farmed legion but didn’t fubgun “farm” a “mageblood” from “legion” at “leaguestart”

[karmic gust]

compared to other stuff

so if conversion shit is good then legion is good for that

[hexed mountain]

rares with more conversion? oh boy i can't wait to do harbingers

[tranquil sedge]

thats a lot of quotes

[final owl]

oh the conversion stuff. hmm

[dark sequoia]

has anybody figured out what somatic shell is useful for yet?
impale?

[opaque sphinx]

imagine having 5k int and this is ur tooltip with WI

[hexed mountain]

nothing

[junior otter]

nothing xd

[simple stag]

“Indeed”

[scarlet jacinth]

Perfectly balanced instead.

[tranquil sedge]

are you just an idiot redditor or trolling here coz i can't tell

[karmic gust]

i never saw anyone even try somatic shell

[dark sequoia]

It's semi-autobomby with CoC and high density I guess but bleeeh

[karmic gust]

that is how obviously badthe skill is

[simple stag]

“ “

[scarlet jacinth]

Half life, 1 life.

[junior otter]

saying both "idiot" and "redditor" is "redundant"

[hexed mountain]

i tried support gems on it in blood aqueduct , its shit

[hoary scarab]

legion is always great at league starts and then falls off

[onyx adder]

It probably wrecks exped too just like every prolif build

[hexed mountain]

the only interesting interaction is barrage sup lets you put more shells

[tranquil sedge]

special cases merit emphasis

[onyx adder]

Dont ackshually me its been a long day

[soft perch]

yea u can just say cank instead

[scarlet jacinth]

"Special" "case"

[hexed mountain]

ackshually its 10 am

[tranquil sedge]

probably redditor then, with a hint of jealousy thrown in

[dark sequoia]

If they made it not area damage and made it like store damage done or something similar to explosive arrow it would fill a niche of ignite wander but right now it just doesn't do anything well

[tranquil sedge]

the only people i ever see complain about fubgun are the poors

especially poors who will never improve at the game honestly

[junior otter]

literally who

[soft perch]

and the stupid

[simple stag]

Classic fubgooner

[tranquil sedge]

[final owl]

why does anyone complaing about fubgun. he tells you what not to play and what to craft for. where problem

[soft perch]

poe is legit like real life

[tranquil sedge]

is little trubby wubby upset that he can't farm a mageblood in a day or two at leaguestart?

big meanie fubgun took all the belts oh no

[soft perch]

tft and rmters get the average players to blame fubgun instead of them smh my head

like billionaires...

[hoary scarab]

i just blame zaccie and move on

[tranquil sedge]

who dat

[hoary scarab]

zaccie

[junior otter]

poe is a microcosm of late stage capitalism.... we are all doomed...

[onyx adder]

I complain about fubgun all the time

[leaden quiver]

gone

[simple stag]

Classic t17 subscriber

[final owl]

utopia just around the corner trust

[onyx adder]

Ppl come in here with his dog shit builds in week 3

[hexed mountain]

ruthless is the communist version

[junior otter]

good riddance

[onyx adder]

And we have to fix them

That is worth complaining about

[surreal musk]

not really, repolaced with map effect per map fragment affecting

[tranquil sedge]

yea but thats still just the fault of the idiots

so not quite the same vein as that moron complaining about him

[junior otter]

map fragment? as in like sac or mortal frags?

[surreal musk]

scarabs

[junior otter]

oh

[surreal musk]

and sac frags

[hoary scarab]

scarbs

[tranquil sedge]

how have you managed to be in the discord this long but still get upset there's better players than you?

[hexed mountain]

[simple stag]

Classic doxxing

[onyx adder]

If he stopped pretending to be a build creator then ppl would play stuff by tuna or spicysushi or other efficient players that suck less at build creation

And we wouldnt have to fix em

[karmic gust]

2024 isvery new player no

[hoary scarab]

thats long?

[tranquil sedge]

its almost 2 years

[final owl]

you don't have to fix em, you can choose not to :I

[tranquil sedge]

if he's still crying about fubgun he's a lost cause anyway

[junior otter]

so he played settlers and nothing else xd

[hoary scarab]

[karmic gust]

thats 1 and half league xd

[onyx adder]

U know how often i have to fix spicysushi builds

Never

[leaden quiver]

there is a funky build using it

[onyx adder]

Because they work

[simple stag]

When did I cry, I wanted to start a convo about legion leaguestart

[leaden quiver]

one guy on youtube was doing it with return projectiles + impale

since impales can proc somatic shell itself

as they are a separate source

[tranquil sedge]

when you started using quotes for every other word in your sentence with fubgun lol

[simple stag]

But ur too strung up on protecting papa

[final owl]

most fish based build creators are good. I 100% have no verified this outside of tuna and sushi

[junior otter]

when are spicysushy or tuna going to make a sweep buiold

[leaden quiver]

it looked promising

[tranquil sedge]

you don't have to pretend to be dumb man

we know you are

[hoary scarab]

i dont even know when i joined this serverm like 2019 probably?

[hexed mountain]

you should fix his trade tab then , i might have seen him listing mid items at 50 divines in phrecia (maybe or maybe not to have viewers buy them)

[tranquil sedge]

just say u wanna be rich like him

[onyx adder]

No dude i said good

[scarlet jacinth]

What is this "rich" you speak of

[tranquil sedge]

nah fubgun's playstyle will never work for me, i cannot nolife that hard

but hey i can understand noobs being jealous of him

it's okay

[simple stag]

This man cannot be saved

[junior otter]

only a truly good build creator would make a good sweep build

all others are posers

[final owl]

don't worry, mathil will sweep you off your feet, trust

[karmic gust]

fubgun only knows how to make bow builds adn even those were always pretty mid

idk how did he got to a spot where people actually follow his builds ngl

[tranquil sedge]

because people see a currency tab with 20 mirrors and they're like this must work

[simple stag]

ANYWAYS legion leaguestart anyone?? Anyone?!?

[hexed mountain]

because they think him making currency means he got a good build

[tranquil sedge]

idiots chasing after wealth is a tale as old as time

[remote sparrow]

He is a blaster and makes money which is all softcore cares about idk

[junior otter]

legion leaguestart nah

[karmic gust]

if you play the game as a job and still cant get currency that would be more suprising

[junior otter]

but its on the right side of the tree so thats goo

[final owl]

beuller

[tranquil sedge]

yes but that particular nuance escapes most people

they dont think how good he is at the game or how much he plays

[blazing nymph]

I believe

[junior otter]

exped + breach + harvest is where its at

[tranquil sedge]

just 'fubgun build make mirrors'

[soft perch]

oh hey someone just pointed out something cool

u can now play not bricked lightpoacher setups

with frostmage support

[junior otter]

yea i saw that post

[soft perch]

cuz its like archmage but in reverse

thats cool

[hexed mountain]

yeah , probably the best use of the gem

[soft perch]

i might do that

[onyx adder]

Thats actually cool

[soft perch]

wait its big for glad

holy login

[hexed mountain]

cant really leaguestart it tho need a lot of small things

on top of the gem

[karmic gust]

what doees not bricked mean? it still costs the same and you still dont want to proc it the same or

just the damage bonus is different

[junior otter]

its annoying to make it not proc itself

[hexed mountain]

yeah but you dont need cringe weird interactions

[junior otter]

now you can just reserve all your mana

and it cant proc

is my understanding

[soft perch]

dont even need to reserve all your mana

[karmic gust]

couldnt you do that before witharchamge too they both add same base cost

[hexed mountain]

was harder

because the cost is % unreserved

[soft perch]

no

archmage is unreserved cost

[karmic gust]

oh

adn frostmage full 5% right

[hexed mountain]

you needed to lose your mana to do the combo

[junior otter]

you still need to reserve 95% or something with frost mage dont you

[soft perch]

yes so like every build

[hoary scarab]

who doesn reserve 95% of mana

[karmic gust]

ok that makes more sense

[remote sparrow]

What is everyone's leauge starter? And why does it suck?

[junior otter]

me

[hexed mountain]

not 95% you can add another support

[soft perch]

sunder bleed glad

it sucks because its bleed glad with 1h

[remote sparrow]

Same lel

[junior otter]

sweep berserker

it sucks because splaff told me it sucks

[karmic gust]

im starting assa poison or sabo miner

[soft perch]

correct

it does

[karmic gust]

will be fun for sure

[hexed mountain]

holy strike guardian because its new

[junior otter]

im going to use maces out of spite

[soft perch]

is the spite being 2 attack time that youre inflicting on yourself

[dark sequoia]

aurabot champion because I have no poe friends

[remote sparrow]

But it will become great once swapped into actual build

[hoary scarab]

i been working on a ss of gathering poison assassin, looks good for now but survivability is still a hard solve for ass

[junior otter]

mace > staff

[soft perch]

bleed sunder glad is totally fine in trade for the record

u can buy a good 1h for a small amount of chaos

cuz its offmeta

which makes it very playable compared to 2h

[hexed mountain]

"if you outgear the content its not that bad"

[soft perch]

turns out using offmeta setups to your advantage sometimes is useful yes

[junior otter]

coronal maul is 1.2 base aps thats not that bad

i just dont see non crit staff beating mace

and i dont see myself starting a crit based warcry stacker that seems really painful

[remote sparrow]

I need like 3 unique items to play actual build I want to play so Bleed glad till then, new chaining Static strike

[leaden quiver]

why would you go non crit staff

staves have the best crit nodes in the game

and high base crit

[junior otter]

exactly

[hoary scarab]

isnt he advantage of staves over maces crit

[soft perch]

staff crit is way more accessible than you think

[soft perch]

and block

[leaden quiver]

you would NEVER not pick this up

[hoary scarab]

true

[junior otter]

the problem is going crit means solving for accuracy and im already dropping points into warcry shit

[hoary scarab]

just hits cant be evaded craft

ex are getting cheaper

[junior otter]

yeah on my leaguestarter

[karmic gust]

ss of gathering? and survivability is now solvable just needs the new ammy thats why i dont mind as much anymore

but also just gonna play it as transition to mana miner

[fossil mural]

Why does discharge of misery on poedb say radius is 30, but description says base radius is 2m

[soft perch]

poison strike clear with no prolif sounds a bit sad

[junior otter]

have we seen the new templar area nodes

[soft perch]

yea

[spice pecan]

oh fuck chronic painless uploaded another bv video

[soft perch]

theyre a little conditional tbh

[hoary scarab]

The idea for static strike of gathering is that you reduce your hit dmg so you can actually build up the stacks with your hits and use melee splash for clear + chain, its solid for clearing with poison without prolif

[junior otter]

any convenient lightning masteries?

[soft perch]

no

[junior otter]

what a joke

[soft perch]

has anyone ever told you your pfp looks like a dick

[hoary scarab]

chain + melee splash static strike beams should be solid enough

[remote sparrow]

What are you starting as sabo? Rolling magma Mines? Some kind of brand build?

[leaden quiver]

regular static strike will feel better than the alt one

[junior otter]

they didnt really need to

i didnt choose this pfp

[rancid peak]

wtf is a Volatile Vaal Orb 💀

[junior otter]

it was forced upon me

[karmic gust]

ah static strike, we do not know enough about skill for me to have any confidence in it yet ngl

[leaden quiver]

holy buff

[karmic gust]

could be absolute ass to play or very broken

[empty ivy]

missing Imperial Staff Piece in removed items

[finite quail]

yes but you lose a chunk of phys dps on your staff

[hoary scarab]

im optimistic

[soft perch]

i dont think the chains do a whole lot

its not many targets

[finite quail]

that's from from the harbinger item pieces, no?

[soft perch]

yea it should be removed

[karmic gust]

eats your soul irl when it kills you

[hoary scarab]

do we even know the ammount of chain, the gem doesnt say a number, just "chain additional times the more gathering lightning you have"

[soft perch]

id imagine its 1:1

[hoary scarab]

also iirc, the beams from static strike can also melee splash

[leaden quiver]

17% more damage on static strike and more duration

[scarlet jacinth]

Corrupts all your gear when it hits you.

[finite quail]

+1 chain per gathering lightning, up to a max of 12

[leaden quiver]

sounds nuts for saboteur tawhoas felling

[soft perch]

they cannot

[leaden quiver]

xd

[karmic gust]

they also buffed targetting range of the beams its just not on the gem :d

[leaden quiver]

yeah

sounds cool for saboteur

[remote sparrow]

I think Alt Static Strike will be op tbh, for single target woih decent attackspeed you are gonna do so much damge and the clear will still be good IMO

[junior otter]

im actually mad about there not being a lightning mastery near templar

such an obvious addition

[onyx adder]

Did we actually ever see the new static strike

[wintry lily]

just have explode clear for u

[onyx adder]

In any of the reveals

[finite quail]

why sabo?

[soft perch]

i agree and the one counterargument i got was 'i hate templar' which was said by WTD

[finite quail]

arent those from the trialmasters fight?

[onyx adder]

I won the argument tho

[junior otter]

this is why the whole bundled archetype style of new content drops is a bad idea

[blazing nymph]

I was trying to hunt it down on the poe2 wiki, i'm sure i remember the name being used before

[junior otter]

they forget something in the bundle and now we're never gonna get it

[remote sparrow]

Actually what about the just spoiled Void shockwave gem with SS? Isn't that gonna be op?

[soft perch]

i mean that gem is just generally questionably strong imo

[finite quail]

its shockwave but it has better clear, so not really

its just marginally better

[leaden quiver]

tawhoa's felling

[junior otter]

its lots more damage

not just better clear

[soft perch]

?

[junior otter]

and better cd too

[soft perch]

its 700% de on a 0.5 sec cd

[wintry lily]

doesn't it have like way less cd

[onyx adder]

Its probably not a ton of damage on static strike

[wintry lily]

lmao

[finite quail]

Oh it got a de increase?

Nvm then

[remote sparrow]

Its how much more % damage on single target with the cdr buff?

[onyx adder]

Which has 1 billion % DE already

[soft perch]

it has a secondary shockwave component

[karmic gust]

also less shitty weapon requirements and way more damage

[leaden quiver]

https://youtu.be/e1b4yqYay_k?si=4NXygvSH_8rxlzgy

[soft perch]

so im assuming it hits twice

2nd being less dam

[onyx adder]

Its still probably fine since we're all complaining about the probably bad clear on it

[leaden quiver]

should be like 16 of those now

[onyx adder]

And shockwave is good at that

[soft perch]

not having pulverise as a support feels kinda bad

[finite quail]

I see

[soft perch]

if ur playing shockwave

[remote sparrow]

Just with the cover image that build is gonna be SO expensive the weapon is UBER rare from kings march and will need crops to find it its gonna be sooooooooo bad as a leauge starter

[scarlet jacinth]

Void shockwave flicker time (it can uses axes)

[finite quail]

you don't need crops though

[karmic gust]

boneshatter of carnage + void shockwave jugg

[finite quail]

you might depending on the port quota

[leaden quiver]

it will never be expensive

no one runs it

[remote sparrow]

You do how else do you get the item

[finite quail]

but to get it you just complete a port quota

[leaden quiver]

are we talking leaguestarter

im not

[finite quail]

you complete a port quota that doesn't need crop

[remote sparrow]

If that build gets any traction it will be

[finite quail]

ezpz

[remote sparrow]

Ah that case no worries should fall into reasonable build

[soft perch]

tawhoas felling sucks tho

it has very low damage

[remote sparrow]

Cool idea at least

[soft perch]

yea

[leaden quiver]

but you can get 16 static strikes on it now

sounds like a funny gimmick build

[soft perch]

sure

[leaden quiver]

i want to play around on sabo anyway because of hextoads

so /shrug

[merry agate]

for the 8s trigger mod on weapons, if you have two different skills in it, does each have its own CD or what

[finite quail]

sounds like painge

[soft perch]

its gonna be worse than the eb ghostwrithe setup ppl keep posting tho

[leaden quiver]

obviously

[finite quail]

they rotate

[leaden quiver]

eb ghostwrithe is broken

[leaden quiver]

why

[spice pecan]

i am once again asking to be talked out of leaguestarting cold BV

[finite quail]

one skill pops every 8s in rotation

iirc

[finite quail]

just don't

[finite quail]

low damage

its also a two handed mace

poop recovery probably

no block either

[merry agate]

darn

[leaden quiver]

hello guys today i will hate on a fun gimmick build

that was buffed significantly HOOOLY POGGERS

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[finite quail]

bro takes an opinion that differs from his as hate...

[merry agate]

im trying to make a super jank build atm

[finite quail]

🥀

[remote sparrow]

Is it Thorns?

[finite quail]

I'm all for weird gimmicky builds

I'm just pointing out the weak points

[merry agate]

no lol, thats for POE2

[fossil mural]

Does replica maloney work with wing of the wyvern?

[merry agate]

i made an infernalist crit thorns for POE2 that has around, 1300 crit multi i think?

[leaden quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[merry agate]

with 6k ES, some armour, and decent damage i think

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[merry agate]

well its also guaranteed crit

[leaden quiver]

you can have capped block with queens hunger

[merry agate]

cuz thorns

[finite quail]

poe 2 talk in my sacred poe 1 channel?!?!?!?!?

BLASPHEMY

[hoary scarab]

hmm im testing it right now and it looks like they actually do

[final owl]

straight to jail. back to discussing baby belt or else

[fossil mural]

I also heard it works

From someone

Ffs, I am at work and cant test shit 😩

[remote sparrow]

They both would trigger the spell sockets in them

[karmic gust]

they count as melee damage right so would make sense if they did

[fossil mural]

Maloney triggers attacks

[karmic gust]

actualyl that cound be fun with new static strike

if the stacks arent pain to maintain

[fossil mural]

I need it to frostblink -> trigger attack -> it freezes -> triggers the spell in wing

[karmic gust]

i still think they will be tho

[hoary scarab]

thats why poison

low hit dmg = more hits land

[karmic gust]

well the more hits toland is still the pain point anyway :d

[fossil mural]

Thats a very interesting way to solve a problem by introducing a different problem

[hoary scarab]

i love poison, its not a problem

the problem is assassin

i fucking hate reworked assassin

honestly give me back old assassin

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/pf-assassin ez defenses for assa

justmake it into pathfinder

[hoary scarab]

day 2 pob right there

[karmic gust]

day 2 you dont need defenses

[fossil mural]

Is amulet really that easy to make work?

[karmic gust]

yes

[blazing nymph]

Replica maloneys only triggers when you cast a spell, triggering a spell doesn't cast it

[leaden quiver]

you can also get life recovery from teh new runegraft xdxdxd

from arcane surge

amulet is op

[fossil mural]

I cast frostblink -> it triggers maloney -> maloney freezes -> triggers wing skill

[karmic gust]

yea that pob above isnt mana build or anything

just using the runegfraft

to be pathfinder

[fossil mural]

I just need to know if maloney counts as main weapon hit

Or something

[blazing nymph]

That'd probably work. I thought you were trying to loop

[fossil mural]

Yea aint no way you loop with these cooldowns

[leaden quiver]

why wouldnt it

[native token]

how do you guys prepare your food for 2 weeks poe nolife

[fossil mural]

Cause I dont know how poe1 works

[fossil mural]

Its called normal food prep

You buy containers and cook

[split maple]

By spreading that two weeks worth of playtime over two months

So enough time for real food

[leaden quiver]

just take time off and have good food

cooking is short

[fossil mural]

Food prep is good food

You just refrigerate it/freeze it

[karmic gust]

instructions unclear died of starvation rip

[native token]

ill spread the 2 weeks of playtime to 1 week

[leaden quiver]

fourth day meal prep food fucking SUUUCKS

youre delulu if you dont agree

[fossil mural]

Skill issue frfr

[split maple]

I don't think that surprises anyone

[final owl]

I mean if i'm proper no lifing i probably just sell a kidney and order delivery a lot.

[fossil mural]

Or dont sell the kidney and order cheapest shit possible

[hoary scarab]

i'll give you 3d

[fossil mural]

Live off of protein powder

[native token]

i think ill play like 18-20h per day

[karmic gust]

so ruin the kindney instead

[final owl]

gonna have to check the pizza to div ratio first

[native token]

im addicted

[hoary scarab]

dont worry just trust

[fossil mural]

And other organs while at it

Tbh in 2weeks you wont die

Okay so plan is wing of the wyvern, replica maloney discharge of mysery

[hoary scarab]

sounds bad

nice

[fossil mural]

🤷

[fossil mural]

Its also reliq

For nova

[hoary scarab]

[final owl]

what does replica baloney do

[native token]

breach notes read quite op

[pulsar dune]

bow attack on spell cast

[native token]

in the atlas passive tree

[fossil mural]

Wait, can you link replica maloney?

[warped gale]

hello, quick question, the new prefix/suffix effect catalysts won't work with unique jewellery, right? since they only have "unique" modifiers?

[thin leaf]

Replica Gabagool

[fossil mural]

Oh you can

Can actually use a cdr support

[hoary scarab]

replica bologne

[fossil mural]

Just need to make sure that shi actually freezes at least white mobs

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-plate-sandwich-bologna-tutorial-gif-6698309865783028765

[blazing nymph]

Correct

[fossil mural]

Which is kinda sad

That kind of effect is best on unique items

On rares its boring mostly

[hoary scarab]

isnt it just plain better than any other cata on rares

[simple stag]

Sounds fun for the experimental jewelry but by golly its already tilting misting

[fossil mural]

I think so? For poe1 at least.

[merry marlin]

Why life flask charges gained over mana flask charges gained?

[fossil mural]

Light radius just got a giga boost

[karmic gust]

no reason just clicked fastest relevant cluster for mastery :d

should be mana flask ofc

[hoary scarab]

smh another bait pob

why do i ever trust you

anyways, assassin still kinda wonky for survivability

[native token]

just dont get hit

[hoary scarab]

my build is running like 50% spell and attack block, around 20k evasion and like 5k armour rn

with 5k life

still feels like thats not enough

[fossil mural]

If you want to hit multiple times per pack?

With like no leech?

[surreal musk]

if ur going block then go block

[hoary scarab]

its a poison build, you go life on hit

[fossil mural]

Maybe that would be enough?

[karmic gust]

well on most assa poison builds you actually go leech and just not click deadly, usually

[fossil mural]

If splash works ig

[hoary scarab]

it would be enough for mapping, but the max hits looks terrible

[fossil mural]

[karmic gust]

or any non PF poison builds really

[hoary scarab]

depends on the skill, molten strike loves on hit

[karmic gust]

yea but thats because molten loves on hit even for regular builds lol

[hoary scarab]

but the point is reducing my hit dmg, so yeah

[surreal musk]

having 50 block/spell block while going evasion is just a really inefficient way of going about it , being spell block capped with 0 attack block would be better

[hoary scarab]

cause i cannot grab block nodes without reducing my dmg by like 80%

the 50% block is literally just from shield and tempest shield + a couple jewels

[fossil mural]

Impossible escape?

[hoary scarab]

the worst part honestly is that they fucked over asssassins poison chance

have to go through hoops to get 100%

[karmic gust]

you still get 30% its plenty with hoag

or just snakebite

[hoary scarab]

im actually using cospris rn with blasphemy temp chains

[leaden quiver]

anyway new mana flask is broken

shrimple as

[karmic gust]

while complaining about assa defenses :d

[hoary scarab]

thats part of the problem yes

xd

but honestly, cospris isnt that bad of an ev chest

like 2.3k

its aight

[surreal musk]

either go evasion+supress cap or attack+spell block

[hoary scarab]

i gotta onion

i need layers

[native token]

i think ill be in breach prism till mageblood in 3.28

[karmic gust]

https://giphy.com/gifs/guidoio-smile-smirk-shrek-LR5GeZFCwDRcpG20PR

[hoary scarab]

im sitting at like 10m uber dps with a meh claw, that should be fine, im investing into multiple defense layers

[leaden quiver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEYFAyDk5W4

most important post

[tawdry olive]

I tried a 2 stone run seriously for the first time the other day, damn, shit is hard lmao

I was playing boneshatter glad tho, actual quin dps towards the end

[finite quail]

new mana flask?

[leaden quiver]

uh new mana flask amulet*&

[finite quail]

ah

Yeah it's quite good

I should prolly pob it later today

[modest depot]

any breachmaxxers

[leaden quiver]

deathbeam had a pob for it

8k recovery mana + life

[finite quail]

Yeah but I wanna make my own

[native token]

dude ill sit in breach

for 2 we eks

shit is hot on the passive tree

[slow niche]

is this anything? what weird strat would include harvest and delve

[modest depot]

im league starting breach

on holy hammers

[onyx adder]

Im going to laugh if fractures get removed

[tawdry olive]

It that farms…

[finite quail]

its mid iirc

[slow niche]

i never tried it

[modest depot]

doubt it

[native token]

im sure 99% of the trees in ssf will look the same xD

[finite quail]

wdym fractures

[native token]

everyone breach + harvest/jun

[split maple]

was good in phrecia where it stacked and barely at that

[karmic gust]

poeplanner rnot updated yet sad

only poedb has?

[modest depot]

prob links go from 150 to 50 or 100. then everything else nerfed by like 50%

[native token]

https://www.pathofpathing.com/?v=3.28.0-atlas-league#AAAABgAAAgEAcXVxdQAA

[slow niche]

and poe ninja but only in differences

[karmic gust]

ah nice

[tawdry olive]

Early ssf expedition is kinda fine too, for bubblegum

[karmic gust]

thanks

[onyx adder]

I will wait for genesis tree

If tree is playable i tree

[slow niche]

nice thanks

[modest depot]

and either way u clicking currency + uniques on tree

[native token]

fuck expedition. i refuse to do it since 3 leagues

[onyx adder]

If tree is not playable i exped

[native token]

just not needed anymore for ssf

[karmic gust]

pathofpathing always somewhat lags my browser but betterthan nothin

[split maple]

exped rly feels unnecesary since like settlers

[modest depot]

and it should be overall better because u can't get dog shit growing wombgifts

every gift is clickab le now

[tawdry olive]

I get it, I skipped it too last time

[gentle chasm]

oh path of pathing is updated

[tawdry olive]

I tried something wack with just shrines and strongbox in 3.26

[native token]

But are we hive or unstable enjoyer

[cerulean breach]

I hate how passive allocation works in it

[modest depot]

hive fortress maxxin

[onyx adder]

Has to be hive

[gentle chasm]

what do i even atlas

[onyx adder]

Unstable is bait

[gentle chasm]

i usually did blue bois to start

[slow niche]

how did you guys manage to not get ailith killed in fortresses?

[split maple]

unstable is still only source of grasping mails right

[modest depot]

yes

[split maple]

tho not for legstart

[native token]

play not a bait build

[modest depot]

its gonna be good farm when u can have scarabs

[blazing nymph]

Do you feel... Betrayed?

[split maple]

by having at least earthshatter level clear

[gentle chasm]

absolutely not

[slow niche]

i had RF

[gentle chasm]

never have i touched that mechanic since it was introduced

[modest depot]

5 breach a map with scarab for boss spawn

[gentle chasm]

maybe ill bait myself with breach

[modest depot]

5 rings a map 🥜

[split maple]

still worse than old breach for graspings, but okay

can live with that

if scarb isnt too rare

[modest depot]

idk

[slow niche]

my only problem with breach is that it takes so fucking long

[modest depot]

if its even that much worse

since u can target it now

specifically the breach mod

[split maple]

it was like grasping per 3 maps with optimal setup right?

can compensate for not targeting by sheer number of them

[karmic gust]

extra waves on tree for hives is quite nice

[onyx adder]

Im going to miss double foulborn bereks this league

That item made fortresses fun

[native token]

like isnt KF totem perfect for fortress pain xD

kinda to tempted to play it

[golden timber]

I'm thinking of new static strike with gladiator what ascendancy are you all going with it?

[onyx adder]

Its probably good

[modest depot]

i think it lacks the damage

[native token]

mhhh dmg shoud be fine

[modest depot]

its good coverage but the single target is sus so early on ailith gonna get ran down

[gentle chasm]

synthesised stability is probably mandatory huh

[native token]

mhhh

[modest depot]

idk i've done 2 runs of kf totems and it was sus enough single target that i decided to league start marauder

[noble sleet]

do we get patch notes everyday or?

[native token]

ye im in between

slam or kf

[modest depot]

i was debating betweeen armour stack reave and kboc mana carry for duo and after playing both builds i'd rather just slam

did some practice runs and kf swap early is so awful in group runs

[blazing nymph]

Not planned or guaranteed, just as they keep working on stuff. So pretty much certain there'll be something each day

[gentle chasm]

they are cranking stuff until the very end

[native token]

i mean ill go kb after i got mageblood or headhunter

anyways

[tawdry olive]

The voices in my head telling me to start Earthshatter zerker once again like a fuckin robot

[modest depot]

play holy hammer

[native token]

ye same for me

giv pob

for holyhammer

[modest depot]

i have no pobs

only vibes

[gentle chasm]

is scrying maps still a thing

[tawdry olive]

I tried to pob holy hammer zerker and then I was like… wait Earthshatter is still better

[modest depot]

nah bro the clear is so much better for sure

[tawdry olive]

Maybe I’ll pick one of the inquis builds

[golden timber]

Played it once had some fun and the second time I almost fell asleep and switched immediately to flicker

[tawdry olive]

I value ST a bit more, on league start crap gear stone rushing

Earthshatter was godlike

[modest depot]

@native token only thing i know is im going maces early instead of staff crit and using romiras for power charge generation so i can stay resolute

[native token]

tbh it just matter

[modest depot]

and im using this

[native token]

how good your build peform in fortress

[modest depot]

early

[native token]

thats all what matters

[modest depot]

its kinda insane for holy hammer

has like every stat the build wants

[native token]

brainrattler is insane lol

[modest depot]

some chance to shock too so you don't have to actually get it on tree

[onyx adder]

That item is quite rare

[modest depot]

yeah its a t3

[onyx adder]

And its not exactly a secret so keep an eye on streamer builds

[warm musk]

Why is this happening?

[onyx adder]

If anyone recommends it ur gonna be paying divs early

[split maple]

you have that keystone on atlas tree

that converts dustsulphite to ores

[native token]

we have tree

[modest depot]

the real issue is its a t3 but its drop lvl 77

[native token]

wont be hard to get

[warm musk]

ty

[modest depot]

idk

i think its gonna be a janus wep

most non cope source

janus research

i swear the fucker has one like every shop

[onyx adder]

Proper cope lul

[modest depot]

i really don't think It is cope

[tawdry olive]

Nameless seer league start drop trust

[modest depot]

hes guaranteed atleast 1 t3 a lot of times its multiple

i know for a fact i've seen brain rattler a LOT from my janus shops

cuz im normally buying his shit out to dust in early gsf

[split maple]

should be guaranteed at least t3 all items at full rank, no?

hm really niche but surely handy for some lifestack versions

[cerulean breach]

isn't this like the highest DE/s of any skill?

even if you assume just 3 stages

>>> 2*1.6*(3*1.45)
13.92

oh wait

only the final wave when you release does the more dmg

I thought it just meant like the final pulse along the path

[leaden quiver]

isnt it just a weird blood barrier

[modest depot]

idk i havent done betrayal in a long time

[leaden quiver]

oh wait its worse

its on savage hits only

[split maple]

worse but no requirement to corrupt all the gear

[modest depot]

im loading it up right now lets get it

[livid quarry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rindpu/miss_dating_someone_who_was_actually_good_at_path/

[odd flicker]

Wtf

[tawdry olive]

Funky ass pasta

[dark sequoia]

is brain rattler getting buffed or something

[leaden quiver]

no it just has innate conversion

which is good

[dark sequoia]

Charged Dash of projection is just charged dash that doesnt teleport you right

[odd flicker]

Is shield crush slayer good? I've never played it before, DPS and clear seems fine but he does not have any stun/bleed/ ele ailment immunity on leaguestart till I get that jewel which scales my shock avoidance to all ele ailments

[leaden quiver]

yh

[spice pecan]

iirc there's an omni shield crush slayer build floating around

it's like the last omni build

[leaden quiver]

clear is meh

[blazing nymph]

With better numbers

[leaden quiver]

but dps is very good

[leaden quiver]

also this jewel prevents ele ailments

not bleed or stun

[tight plinth]

is the new atlas tree posted anywhere?

[sleek ocean]

They got One more nerf 😅

[hexed mountain]

good

[dark sequoia]

Is self-bleed with foulborn infinite pursuit a thing? To get immune to ailments and etc

[split maple]

poedb and pathofpathing

[sleek ocean]

Arrogance no longer gets Over written by autoexcertion

[tight plinth]

thanks

didnt know poedb has one

[dark sequoia]

How is foulborn uul netol embrace with 80% reduced int?

Usable weapon at that point?

Thinking of doing something dumb with self-bleed uul netol embrace

[sleek ocean]

So instead of 15% life reservation with arrogance auto its 40% in The next patch

[sterile depot]

The new anoint belt base is from Blight right?

[remote sparrow]

I think its on poe website

[split maple]

blight inside mirage yea

[modest depot]

volkuur t3
cold iron t3
grey spire t3
kaom's binding t3

@onyx adder its the strat bro trust

[dark sequoia]

Stranglegasp in belt form when

[onyx adder]

Thats p good

Alright im in

[leaden quiver]

800pdps axe, might be good with new shockwave support

[remote sparrow]

Ritual farming?

[modest depot]

back in mercenaries this was my strat for merc support start in gsf

[dark sequoia]

Hard to scale both melee and bone nova tho

[leaden quiver]

is it

[modest depot]

its the best way of getting march + binding + gloves

[modest depot]

janus in research t3

for getting my brain rattler

also pro tip. janus always spawn in research when u first start ur board

[leaden quiver]

yeah

[modest depot]

so all u have to do is rank him up

[leaden quiver]

easy to set it up with that

also syndicate is buffed now so

mega worth running it early

[split maple]

kinda sad no more maven chisels from it

[remote sparrow]

Anyone know rarity of thunderfists?

[split maple]

idk what i would want on board actually rn

[dark sequoia]

wat janus do

[split maple]

t2 https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Guide:Analysis_of_unique_item_tiers

[karmic gust]

t2

[remote sparrow]

Faaak I need them for my LS swap

[hoary scarab]

@karmic gust would the laviangas life recovery actually apply to PB capped life?

[karmic gust]

yes

i tested it in game already

[fossil mural]

T2 is pretty cheap no

[hoary scarab]

alright

[karmic gust]

with the runegraft ofc

[fossil mural]

Or you ssf

[leaden quiver]

thats so gaoted

im creaming all over the ground

[remote sparrow]

I wanted to start SSF but I cbf

Well group ssf but similar idea

[leaden quiver]

btw the way it works with a flask and pblood, if you have 5k life and pblood, a hit dealing 5k gets only the 2.500 part on it modified by pblood, right?

[karmic gust]

yea its literally just pathfinder on any ascendancy

lol

[karmic gust]

yes

[leaden quiver]

and its even if youre at full life

nice

[remote sparrow]

Hmmm is it worth running pet blood on all builds with just that

[karmic gust]

if you dont need ammy on most life builds yes

pathfinder defenses are strong

[hoary scarab]

https://pobb.in/MPNr5klG_CoT

this is what im at rn

still feels like not enough

:/

[formal dove]

phrecia updates? is that event still out?

[hoary scarab]

well the plan is to have phrecia aviable to private leagues too

[formal dove]

ah

[karmic gust]

just go snakebite at this point

you are even grabbing the frenzy stuff

instead of the chest

[hoary scarab]

yeah but despair + temp chain is so good for poison stacking

[karmic gust]

even though i think if you are PA build you should justnever leave the shadow middle circle really

[modest depot]

how is it possible to use a scarab for reinforcments

and have node on tree

and 1 guy shows up

[hoary scarab]

also temp chains is another defense layer

[karmic gust]

because its so point efficient

[leaden gust]

I think i might just go fusillade totems on hiero as starter as it lets me transition to multiple end game builds. Not sure i can be arsed to play glass canon deadeye another league

[hoary scarab]

how am i gonna get endurance charges then

[karmic gust]

enduring composure

[covert otter]

Will there be forbiden jewels for reliquarian?

[karmic gust]

also i would cap supp

[hoary scarab]

probably

[blazing nymph]

Reli can use ascendant jewels, but no jewels for reli nodes

[hoary scarab]

yeah i took out the suppression for block nodes

[karmic gust]

the laviagna setup helps with that because you can ensure you are at fuill life most of the time

[covert otter]

ty sadge:(

[karmic gust]

so revenge of the hunted will be active like 95% of the time especially if you click life mastery

[split maple]

no

[blazing nymph]

It's cos the nodes change each league, apparently

[sleek ocean]

No, there wont be any

[covert otter]

ty

[tawdry olive]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/tree-version-history?type=atlas
pretty cool

map pathing nodes actually kinda good now?

[modest depot]

i did 2 runs and no mace. gg

[hybrid harness]

obv not gonna work out so cya 3.29

[short prairie]

[rough tulip]

Hmmmm, i wanted to start warden KF but seeing gameplay it seems kinda scuffed to start with

[remote sparrow]

I just realized reli is an awnser to let us use d3 cube uniques lol

[rough tulip]

but i dont want to start hiero KF like 45% of the playerbase

[hoary scarab]

hm i dont really see it considering im going PA, so the dot multi is just wasted

[odd flicker]

Then what build would you recommend? I played hroc last league, was a blast but I want to try something else now

[hoary scarab]

and i still need 10% poison chance

[remote sparrow]

It is gonna be ok, you can try a quick 1hr test lvlin to see how it is

And tbh just use another wand skill to level then swap later on lol

[karmic gust]

wait actually

you are pa

just click the dagger node

and go dagger

[hoary scarab]

ive tried, its worse

than claws

[rough tulip]

im more worried about how it feels until u can swap to the "machinegun" version, cause the stupid timewarp/timeclasp with good rolls is gonna be ungodly expensiver early

[karmic gust]

i mean its same thign you just lose the implicit

but you dont need the implicit anymore

[hexed mountain]

totems gatling without uniques

[hoary scarab]

dagger nodes are just gonna be worse for assassin, cause i dont need to go pneumatics

unless i go elusive but eh

[rough tulip]

[final owl]

it's not that bad. idk. has every other build you've played had a 100% smooth transition to endgame version? mine havent. still fine

[hexed mountain]

hiero has better endgame with indigon on totem

[final owl]

play the OP skill while it is OP

[spice pecan]

doesn't this not function with PA

same with vile toxins

[leaden quiver]

bleed slams are good early

[hexed mountain]

warden is more fun because its faster

[hoary scarab]

he means just the poison chance

[karmic gust]

the second line always functions

[spice pecan]

oh, true

[hoary scarab]

might aswell rather go dendro bait

[odd flicker]

But clear didn't look very good

[rough tulip]

welp, worst case scenario i just cope that 1-usable-shrine belts are affordable and cope with tinctures carrying my sorry ass

[karmic gust]

also why no nightblade

[leaden quiver]

im starting domblow

[karmic gust]

isnt that kinda th ewhole point

of PA dagger/claw

[hexed mountain]

tinctures will carry your damage belt or not

its impossible to not have damage on warden

[odd flicker]

Necro?

[rough tulip]

i havent played ranger builds since the days of TR/CA PF lol

[hexed mountain]

you get about 450% ele damage and crit from the base of tincture

[hoary scarab]

i hate elusive stuff, also its just kinda bad rn

[hexed mountain]

and then the crit multi and ele pen on top from suffix

[kindred burrow]

Where can i find a necromancer leveling guide? I wanna play KB later

[leaden quiver]

templar

smoother leaguestart and thats what I care about

will swap to diff build after like 30-40d

[rough tulip]

aight, if it ends up sucking ill personally hold you accountable

[hexed mountain]

you wont have defenses but mobs will be dead

[odd flicker]

Which ascendancy Templar?

[rough tulip]

jk, ive started way worse

will be fine

[hexed mountain]

its genuinely a toptier starter

[leaden quiver]

guardian

[hexed mountain]

just lacks defenses

[rough tulip]

i paid for 6 portals, ill use em

[leaden quiver]

first lab sentinel of radiance, second lab relics, third lab block

[hexed mountain]

idk if i can find the pob but i had a warden pob with 2.5M dps without items equipped and a white wand

[leaden quiver]

uber lab first Time of Need, later trialmaster or whatever

[final owl]

6 portal defences

[hexed mountain]

i would leaguestart kinetic fusillade if i didnt play 4 of them arleady

[noble sleet]

https://youtu.be/_uA8dTNO2FA?si=DA7RE-KJc_eOWZnD I think our build has been decided

[final owl]

playing KF in phrecia 2.0 is the only reason i am considering not playing it for 3.28

but like. it's good.

[kindred burrow]

Is fubgun playing bows or wands?

So i know what not to play

[rough tulip]

if you somehow find it, pls let me knowm idk how much i trust lolcohol one

[warped gale]

any talk yet on new stone rushing strats? like originator stone is the most important I guess?

[hexed mountain]

STOP

lolcohol trolled his pob

i've seen it he plays warden with ONE tincture

[rough tulip]

thats what i feared

[hexed mountain]

he's committing terrorism

[final owl]

lolcohol is good. dude collaborated with the guy who made the KF calc. i think he knows what he's about

[leaden quiver]

https://pobb.in/Yi5JMNDdykpk

take my leaguestart pob

[hexed mountain]

https://pobb.in/PPqBpFOCP6Ou

[noble sleet]

that pfp is something lmao

[hexed mountain]

lolcohol takes freeze and avatar over lingering tincture and double tincture

[scarlet jacinth]

Seems kinetic fusilade may be a bit popular

[hexed mountain]

doesnt matter if he usually does good that's terrorism

tinctures give more damage than avatar on the build

[final owl]

i think it was always going to be #2 to broken ele hit. now that ele hit isn't the skill of the league..

[noble sleet]

if ziz never asked about ele hit, you think we would be safe?

[hexed mountain]

(i got no res and life because there is no item except the white wand)

(and the tinctures its a warden obviously)

[leaden quiver]

yeah

[rough tulip]

ill check it out, thanks!

[noble sleet]

awe fucking hell I wish I didn't ask lmao

[onyx adder]

Yea but freeze gives u marginally less dying

[fossil mural]

I doubt it. It seems to have been on their mind

[scarlet jacinth]

Lovely my build has no items in common with totem so that'll help

[onyx adder]

Which is the warden hot commodity

[hexed mountain]

he loses 50% of his damage for it

[hoary scarab]

https://pobb.in/5HtigjG4qfVP @karmic gust this is the non cospris version, looks solid for survivability but now the dps is very meh

[onyx adder]

Damage is easy

[hexed mountain]

and that's 50% of damage WHEN his tincture and avatar is up

[onyx adder]

Not dying is hard

[leaden quiver]

marginally less dying

[hexed mountain]

so since he didnt go lingering

[leaden quiver]

its huge with wands

[hexed mountain]

he has 10% of the damage

[leaden quiver]

you just permafreeze stuff with hoarfrost

unless it was sarcastic

[final owl]

i mean it's something you can tweak if you decide you need more damage or less dieing isn't it

[scarlet jacinth]

Can't kill you if they are dead

[hexed mountain]

permafreeze is pointless

[pulsar dune]

Hoarfrost is the best warden node, hard to not click

[hexed mountain]

when you oneshot everything

[leaden quiver]

yeah classic leaguestart

oneshot everything

xd

[hexed mountain]

you're locked into 6 tincture points

[leaden quiver]

yeah and you then spend the 8th on hoarfrost

where's the problem

[hexed mountain]

didnt you see 2.5M damage on a white wand and no item?

???????

oath of spring is 140% more damage

there's no way you're not clicking it

to freeze trash mobs

[leaden quiver]

no totem placement spee

d

GG

1 second delay before it starts attacking

then another delay before the proj fire

[hexed mountain]

did you play kinetic fusillade totem?

[leaden quiver]

you'll die more often than you think

it was nerfed this league

to higher emerging speedoutside of hiero

[hexed mountain]

i litteraly played it last league and you can annoint the damn placement speed if you want

[fossil mural]

Damn placement speed

[leaden quiver]

jimmies rustled

[hexed mountain]

you can even 3 points the totemic zeal if you want

[final owl]

nothing about choosing a build requires you to mirror every point spent and every item used? idk

[fossil mural]

Too much effort

[cosmic eagle]

Well now you annnoint 3items for the placement speed

[pulsar dune]

Surely you can just get enough mana recovery to sustain tinctures without linger

Or don't go double tincture

[split maple]

sorry i cannot change anything without written approval from pohx

[hexed mountain]

like playing without double tincture on warden is a war crime

with a warden tree a tincture is 100% more damage

[modest depot]

yo why is this actually good money making strat

[fossil mural]

Its only a warcrime if you didnt have fun

[modest depot]

wilma like +5d on league start

[fossil mural]

What is this?

[modest depot]

super secret hidden op farming strat

i cant tell u bro

[hybrid harness]

wilma hasnt been over a div in years I dont think lol. though this league it will prob be juicy

[cosmic eagle]

Gwennen strat

[modest depot]

its rank 3 janus in research

[split maple]

if you click ritual twice without killing any mob inbetween ritual window trash is replaced by that

kinda like evo strat

[leaden quiver]

yeah sounds like it

dont share it

remove messages

im making a youtube video abotu it rn to cash out thanks

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[fossil mural]

Lmao what

[modest depot]

shit bro the more people that farm this the more likely ill get my brain rattler

i've done 4 safehoues now and got 2 ethereal and a syndicate medallion

and people say they can't make money in this game

[rough tulip]

im starting breach/betrayal and u cant stop me