1┃general

[severe pivot]

So it's the same gem except better

[zealous pebble]

Welp ok it's bait but going sweep and eventually using void shockwave support

[gritty epoch]

Shockwave cyclone bait 🪤

[lethal orbit]

see i told you new teasers incoming

[zealous pebble]

Hence expectional

[worthy cave]

and then maybe anoint nature's remedies?

[lethal orbit]

lets goooo

[karmic gust]

this is very nasty downside

fun for some memes probably

but rough

[pseudo axle]

sure but in this case chains of command will theoretically double dip, because you have level 20 and level 18 animate weapons

[fossil mural]

Dissolution pag

[karmic gust]

lol

[severe pivot]

this looks like some poe2 design

[peak heron]

its going to be a crazy skill for minions you would be surprised how much damage 5 more minons would do

[cobalt blade]

eternal youth vaal spark dissolution

[potent bramble]

If the minion gem scales %more with gem level, then it'll almost certainly be bonkers for Spectres - you already go to like 14 spectres by the endgame, and you have something crazy like +4 or 5 levels to minion gems IIRC. Add a +1 level corruption to the Exceptional gem and you might be able to get up to around 20 total spectres. Which could be phenomenal

[haughty bloom]

no

[leaden quiver]

congratulations support

[crude moat]

I wont be surprised, I'm already aware

[empty bronze]

you have six portals smh

[pseudo axle]

yeah dissolution of the flesh with the vaal sacrificce thing seems good

[karmic gust]

actually congregation is also good for that ascednancy

[vague turret]

Ok that Congregation support is ridiculous. I wonder how it stacks with the various helms

[fossil mural]

Life stacking league

[karmic gust]

that gives shit per minion amount right

[fossil mural]

Even eb life stacks

[sleek ocean]

had 24 golems in merc league XD

[karmic gust]

so i guessthats decent use

[pseudo axle]

catarina

[potent bramble]

The Catarina Bloodline, yeah

[pseudo axle]

yeah

[severe pivot]

maybe sacrifice counts as self damage so you can get insane recoup regen

[worthy cave]

But I don't think Templar can sustain base Lavianga's Spirit

[onyx adder]

Yer

[worthy cave]

you need what...5 charges every 3 seconds?

[fossil mural]

It doesnt

[trim sleet]

anyone noticed void shockwave can be used with AXES

[worthy cave]

no, 7 charges

[onyx adder]

Some minion setups have dogshit supports too it can fit in there

[worthy cave]

so even if you get 4 charges every seconds from tides of time + flask mastery

[modern zinc]

Jesus Christ that Vaal Sacrifice support is insane

[worthy cave]

and then say alchemist's genius

[karmic gust]

also void shockwave has rly good numbers for clear skill thats kinda cute

[onyx adder]

Mostly this is just gonna be about a 33% support thats not great on temp minions

[karmic gust]

just shit aoe

[olive carbon]

Dominating blow not total doodoo kaka garbage now?

[onyx adder]

Which is like

4th or 5th support tier

[crimson spear]

Gems have flavor text now?

[trim sleet]

i think might be a typo

[crisp obsidian]

Can it be abused with penance

[fossil mural]

Its 2m base

[karmic gust]

well it doesnt have that good numbers for that to be worth it :d

[crisp obsidian]

Rip

[stoic horizon]

greater gems not beating lineage gem allegations

[karmic gust]

but 454% DE on half a sec cooldown that expands 4 times will delete packs by itself

[potent bramble]

If you can get to 20 spectres, that'd be 200% increased Defenses, that'd be pretty solid. Could also couple that with the new belt and the shrine for 100% increased armor/evasion/es (assuming you don't need the belt/having an annointed belt isn't somehow stronger) and pretty much just fully AFK any fight

[leaden quiver]

AYO THATS fucking cool lol

[cerulean breach]

void shockwave is insane

[full kraken]

Oh god now I wanna play my fucking nuts phantasm build

[cerulean breach]

realistic maximum without gimping yourself is 14

[fossil mural]

Worm blaster the Nnth

[leaden quiver]

the 44 base one?

[stoic horizon]

void shockwave's biggest buff is that it can use axes

[onyx adder]

Am i missing something or is void shockwave misprinted levels of broken

[potent bramble]

The new gem gives % more maximum minions for the supported type

[karmic gust]

oh ture it isnt limited to garbage weapons

lets go

[leaden quiver]

it is

xpp

[full kraken]

yeah lol

[cerulean breach]

that's already included in my calculation

[karmic gust]

yea the DE is a bit too high

[onyx adder]

Its 900 DEps wtf

[full kraken]

60 phantasms bois

[crimson spear]

Carrion Golem gets increased damage for every non-golem minion you have, with the bonus capping at 10 non-golem minions. Using the new Congregation Support, you can max Carrion Golem damage with only a single non-golem minion skill.

[olive carbon]

Static strike void shockwave reliquarian ward stacking auto bomber 250bilion DPS off screen map clear league starter (easy 4 stones)(cheap)

[karmic gust]

oh wait looking at regular shockwave did not realized it has this shit DE by default even lmao

[onyx adder]

Who cares about clearing its just a 200% more damage support

[karmic gust]

so this is just straight up better

[plush galleon]

how the fuck is this balanced , it has HALF the cd of base shockwave and DOUBLE its damage?????

[full kraken]

120% increased movement speed

[stoic horizon]

• additional shotgunning on clear

[karmic gust]

its triple its damage

[fossil mural]

Its called exceptional

[trim sleet]

base shockwave has 4 uses

[sleek ocean]

less limits on weapons

[pseudo axle]

looks like melee's back on the menu boys

[crimson spear]

Another reply just for the lols

[fossil mural]

Yep

[stoic horizon]

also you could prob scale up aoe for penance mark abuse

[plush galleon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/squid-game-oh-my-god-bruh

[potent bramble]

Really? I know my math was fully from a hat, but the Spectres build I did in Keepers capped out at 12, and that'd be without the new gem

[karmic gust]

dont think thats worth over just doing something else

[leaden quiver]

theyll nerf it

[trim sleet]

calm down pals, its not that insane

[leaden quiver]

1000%

[karmic gust]

also 2m radius is too small

[leaden quiver]

theyll nerf it

[karmic gust]

probably

[fossil mural]

Youd need to double the radius, like not happening

[leaden quiver]

it is that insane

[crude moat]

Dayummmmm 10% increased melee damage

[leaden quiver]

kekw

[cerulean breach]

it is lol

[full kraken]

Staff gives 11
support gives 11, so 22 now
Then you use the helm to double it to 44

New support boosts that to 60

[trim sleet]

base shockwave has 4 uses , this new one its just 1

[full kraken]

or maybe its staff gives 10 and support gives 12, dont remember

[leaden quiver]

but half the cd

[crude moat]

And why exactly you want 120% ms

[dim sonnet]

16 spectres is crazy

[karmic gust]

4 uses doesnt rly mean much outside of avoiding breakpoints

and first 4 attacks on boss

[full kraken]

cuz Im playing path of exile lol

[cerulean breach]

it does more dmg with the 1 than the other one with 4

[fossil mural]

You only need to hit once with this per pack

[dim sonnet]

i thought i was going with storm brand but i guess im playing spectres huh

[potent bramble]

On Spectres!? I'mma need that PoB, plz&tankyou

[leaden quiver]

not worth though

[plush galleon]

this shit will NUKE the screen

[worthy cave]

what's the base amount of max spectres?

[leaden quiver]

youll never use it

[full kraken]

Phantasms not spectres

[dim sonnet]

thats crazy take

[leaden quiver]

better have 12 spectres iwth 40% more supp

ezpz

[crude moat]

This ain't poe2 tho, you can ez run a map with a flask and a movement skill

[cerulean breach]

@karmic gust void shockwave looking pretty good with that penance mark nonsense

[dim sonnet]

gl with that lil bro

[potent bramble]

Ah. That's fun but less OP than spectres lol... I think. Might be more OP. TBD

[elfin shale]

I wish Congregation was inc so i could double montregul's

[hardy heron]

OK but it's funny

[full kraken]

why would I ever choose "go slower" when I can choose "go faster"

[dreamy charm]

is vaal flameblast a channel skill since its instant ?

[dim sonnet]

we dont have woke supports

[leaden quiver]

do not lil bro me do youj know who i am

[fossil mural]

Good luck getting 2m to 4

[crisp obsidian]

Void shockwave will be nerfed before launch

[leaden quiver]

hextoad easily gets to 4metres

just telling you

[stray sedge]

why?

[crude moat]

This is a buff

[karmic gust]

i dont think it is that great with it, the repeats have 50% penalty the aoe is smaller

[potent bramble]

With absolutely nothing else involved, 3 spectres at gem level 26 - which I suppose really means 2 at level 20, b/c you can't hit 26 without other factors

[fossil mural]

Because people hype it up

[crisp obsidian]

Op

[desert stream]

still will deal big damage

[karmic gust]

would rather do boneshatter of carnage at that point i think

[grizzled ether]

is shockwave on axe much better than staves / mace ? I'm not sure how it compares

[elfin shale]

I like that we have a Suicide button now too

[karmic gust]

even though i guess nothign is stopping me frrom puttin void shockwave on boneshatter too

lmao

[fossil mural]

Hextoad has higher cooldown than this shit, and you can scale it down

[karmic gust]

so i guess that works

[plush galleon]

triple the dmg of shockwave half the cd AND repeats 4 times , this shit aint going live bro lmaoooo

[crisp obsidian]

Exactly

[dim sonnet]

i dont get vaal sacrifice support though. its like woke spell echo but worse ?

[leaden quiver]

cant triggerbot shockwave tho

[leaden quiver]

works for vaal skills

[stoic horizon]

staves and maces are just garbage weapon types in general, so axes are a big up

[elfin shale]

Normally vaal skills cannot repeat

[stray sedge]

Will it repeat on single target? I doubt it

[karmic gust]

this isnt limited by absoluting anything in general right

can just slap it on any melee build for clear

[desert stream]

simple usecase out of head - wormflask+shockwave support=5x damage boost against bosses

[worthy cave]

ah crap

[karmic gust]

[dim sonnet]

any good one you want to repeat ?

[worthy cave]

only 1 +1 max spectre node on tree

[grizzled ether]

Ok, that confirms what i was guessing

[fringe ermine]

they create a gem that gives more minion without any side effect?

lmao

[elfin shale]

No clue

[fossil mural]

Thats just bad taste

[crisp obsidian]

Has to be melee attack and used by yourself

[stray sedge]

The "downside" being one less minion dmg support, but you know... more minions = more damage

[karmic gust]

regular viper strike void shockwave

[crisp obsidian]

[karmic gust]

nah but like that isnt even troll

[elfin shale]

Does the new vaal skill support basically exploding your entire healthbar let you do anything funny
I know it procs Champ adrenaline for instance

[crisp obsidian]

With new sword poggg

[karmic gust]

with the void shockwave numbers ngl

[crude moat]

I wish skele mage was still alive to see this 🙁

[karmic gust]

like what ae you losing its just better melee splash

[native abyss]

‼️

[elfin shale]

Varunastra Pestilent Strike Void Shockwave

[dim sonnet]

carrion golem with that is insane though

[full kraken]

yummy

[fossil mural]

Inb4 exceptional splash is like 4m at 500de

[crisp obsidian]

Exactly why it's either gigarare or nerfed before launch

[dim sonnet]

since you usually have carrion golem and zombies in the same 12 link and now both get more minions

[karmic gust]

but melee builds are weak smh

just keep it

[nova pivot]

I need someone to yell at me that i shouldn't start cyclone with the new support shockwave

[potent bramble]

Yeah but you can also get +1 spectres on Bitterbind Point and a chestpiece, plus some levels which takes the gem to 3, so now you're at 6, and Dark Monarch takes it up to 12

[full kraken]

Honestly the hard part now is merely sustaining 60 entire fuckin phantasms lololol

[dim sonnet]

from 12 to 16 zombies and 6 carrion jolems

[karmic gust]

well why would you put it on cyclone when you can put it on good skill instead

[trim sleet]

dont do it

[spark violet]

surely the new shockwave droprates are atrocious

[fossil mural]

"We have had extensive discussions within our team and have come to conclusion that void shockwave is a tad bit too strong."

[nova pivot]

Thanks lads

[karmic gust]

nah first they must say to enjoy it first

cant be skipping steps here

[gentle chasm]

nothing is stopping you from going the normal shockwave then upgrading eventually

[crude moat]

Except normal Shockwave is way worse

[haughty bloom]

I think it would be fun to farm onigoroshi and start cyclone with goroshi

[gentle chasm]

obviously but youre not exactly starting with a gem that requires lvl 75+

[worthy cave]

gem at 25 -> 3. Bitterbind -> 4. Tree: 5. Chest piece: 6. Still 4 short of the 10

[nova pivot]

might farm it on ruthless now that you say it

[crude moat]

Ain't I?

[crisp obsidian]

😠

[crude moat]

Onigoroshi does drop in ruthless

[nova pivot]

What have i been spending these last 6 weeks on then??

[worthy cave]

yeah I'm not sure what all the sources of +1 max spectres are

[haughty bloom]

didnt ggg confirm it does on their twitter

[crisp obsidian]

No

[worthy cave]

bitterbind, chest, tree, lvl 25 gem

anything else?

[crude moat]

Yes

[solid stratus]

38% more minions eyyy

[crisp obsidian]

No

[leaden quiver]

why is it even called void shockwave

[coral crystal]

yeah keep them minion buffs coming

[leaden quiver]

when it has no chaos conversion or cold

[worthy cave]

38% more minions with 6 specs gets you to 8 max spectres

still need 2 more

[stoic horizon]

fubgoon is watching a soulwrest guide OH HELL NAW

[crude moat]

Cuz it voids the normal shockwave

[nova pivot]

Bro has the void as an opp

[potent bramble]

Dark Monarch doubles 1 minion type at the cost of not being able to have other minions

[worthy cave]

aware

Trying to get to base 10 before dark monarch

[tender forge]

I love that new minion gem lol. MINIONS EVERYWHERE!

[sage falcon]

this is the hard hitting journalism that we need

[potent bramble]

Ah

Uhh. Plus 1 from something you can put on your chestplate

[worthy cave]

so far, at base 6, 8 with the new support gem

[potent bramble]

Dunno how you actually do it, I never got that far

[crude moat]

Tell zizaran to ask that in his next interview

[worthy cave]

chest, bitterbind point, tree

lvl 25 gem

that's 6

[past rain]

wait poe1 is only 56gb? istg my old one was like 120gb

[stoic horizon]

shaders mayhaps

[past rain]

ah

[stoic horizon]

they can sometimes chunk up

[potent bramble]

If you use the anoint and also have the point allocated, can you double-dip?

[worthy cave]

and then this new exceptional support

[sage falcon]

no

[leaden quiver]

no

[cerulean breach]

alright did some simulation work for glacial cascade of fissures

[dim sonnet]

after seeing these op exceptional gems im coping for an op brand related one

[steel light]

are u throwing shades?

[cerulean breach]

@fossil mural oops wrong reply

[worthy cave]

wait does that work?

[fossil mural]

It comes from the void between the legs

[dim sonnet]

surely ggg nerfed penance brand because the exceptional support for brand is too op

[worthy cave]

thought so

obv it works with deli notables

[potent bramble]

Multiple people immediately said no. I guess it'd be "too overpowered" or something

[onyx adder]

Did u see it

[stoic horizon]

unfortunately i couldnt find a gif of someone throwing sunglasses

[worthy cave]

I mean it'd be kind of gross for charges

[stoic horizon]

[worthy cave]

double dip on +1 max curse

[heady forge]

I don't want showcase videos... I want detailed pages with the skill gems on the website

[dim sonnet]

no im just high on copium

[onyx adder]

I saw someone link one somewhere

I presume it was real

[gentle chasm]

best we can do is datamined gems 2 hours before league launches

[stoic horizon]

we wont get full list before launch

[gentle chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/pawn-stars-yes-yass-awesome-gif-21935666

[onyx adder]

Some shit about hands

[worthy cave]

I wanna see the runegrafts

[heady forge]

[leaden quiver]

ennervating support?

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/johnnycage-johnny-cage-johnny-cage-1-gif-7659977956940290762

[leaden quiver]

or what

[hard cliff]

who pinged me

[potent bramble]

@worthy cave Technically you can get another +1 from Midnight Bargain

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-me-barry-original-flash-reverse-flash-gif-16579891338034607240

[stoic horizon]

me ||actually no clue who||

[hard cliff]

whys that bad

[leaden quiver]

hextoad support holy..

[fossil mural]

Inb4 they are like uniques and server sided

[zealous mantle]

ayo congregation for holy strike

+1 weapon POGGERS

[hard cliff]

It would be better if we got like 40% less patch notes and people just figured stuff out by playing the game together

[gentle chasm]

that is very likely lmao

[worthy cave]

ew midniht bargain does NOT seem good

30% of your life for one more spectre? Sorry

[gentle chasm]

i dont remember how it went with poo2

[zealous mantle]

wait so

[potent bramble]

This is what the Wiki says about max spectre count

[stoic horizon]

wait we can get an extra buff spectre with that gem

[vapid rock]

Thats level 3 though, +1 corrupt +1 from mod probably puts you at 63% more minions

[fossil mural]

Lineage are exactly like uniques yes

[zealous mantle]

dark monarch + congregation support = 8 total holy weapons for holy strike

[sleek ocean]

you can foulborn it

[zealous mantle]

im gonna bust

[crude moat]

I was me, Barry! I told Octavian to interrupt ziggyd and mention ruthless!

[gentle chasm]

yeah 99% they work the exact same way

[worthy cave]

63%?!

from 38?!

[simple stag]

cancel your plans we're going Bonestatic Void shockwave Juggernaut

[haughty bloom]

yo did standard have a rollback I was in act 6 but got sent back to act 1 progress

[zealous mantle]

which mod gives +1?

[fossil mural]

Jung soon

[potent bramble]

Still can't go CI though, right, because of the -0.5% life per second? Or would you just need to have innate regen that's more than 0.5% of 1

[worthy cave]

Waiiiiiiiiiiit

[vapid rock]

(38/3)*5=63

[worthy cave]

this si a minion gem

so uhhhh

[leaden quiver]

are we discovering poe now here

[sleek ocean]

you can offset it with hp regen

[worthy cave]

is there a corruption that's like +level of socoketed minion gems?

[zealous mantle]

also yhoure assuming it scales linearly from 13>38

[fossil mural]

Just need 1 regen

[zealous mantle]

instead of something like 25-38 from level 1-3

[crisp obsidian]

Yes

[worthy cave]

does it work on minion support gems?!

[vapid rock]

Skill gems, not all gems afaik

[crisp obsidian]

And same item can have +1

[zealous mantle]

i think at most itd go up to 50% more minions

[worthy cave]

ah crap

[coral crystal]

can u somehow stack + level to congregation and have enough for 2 ag

[potent bramble]

Oh cool. So it's just a completely irrelevant mod then, as far as life goes

[gritty epoch]

Proposed change to void shockwave support:
||2000% better shockwave,
when your character dies, it gets sent to the void||

[worthy cave]

but +1 to all gems does work on exceptionals

[vapid rock]

There is +1 all gems corrupt though

[worthy cave]

yep

[vapid rock]

Yes

[sleek ocean]

we dont know how the gems scales above level 3 yet

[worthy cave]

So we can feasibly expect to get this to 5

[fossil mural]

Do it on trigger and we talking

[zealous mantle]

yeah the minion +1 will be expensive

[crisp obsidian]

It says socketed minion gems

[crude moat]

0.5% of 1 is like
Less than 1
So just have 1 life reg per second and you'll be fine

[worthy cave]

O_o

[sleek ocean]

still have +2 support gem on weapon afterall

[onyx adder]

Its alrdy 2000% better

And no void

[haughty bloom]

would be fun to get a selfexplode gem where if you die your voided but kill everything in the map

[worthy cave]

This is indeed a minion gem

[gritty epoch]

It's called void shockwave

[potent bramble]

Ye, that's what I was thinkin'. Couldn't remember if regen needed you to have missing health before it could do anything, even if it was just 1 under max, or if it'd do the math first and then apply after

[vapid rock]

True, I assumed linear, that's how the enhance/empower/enlighten work

[worthy cave]

so you can potentially get +1 all and +2 minion

and a corrupt

[zealous mantle]

yeah you can get +2 from the helmet affix

yeah

[worthy cave]

OH CRAP

HOLY F*CK

[zealous mantle]

but chances are its not gonna be like

[bleak quiver]

axe shockwave, hp stacking autobomber time

[crisp obsidian]

Now they could just change it to non-exceptional minion gems

[full kraken]

WAIT

GUYS

this is a twisters buff

[zealous mantle]

linear

[worthy cave]

True

but they haven't have they?

[zealous mantle]

im sure itll have a plateau

[potent bramble]

But not a totems buff, sadge

[zealous mantle]

that being said

even getting to 50% is fucking nuts

[crisp obsidian]

About to ping ggg to ruin your fun

[fossil mural]

And bolts

[worthy cave]

I'm not a summoner guy

[hard cliff]

lmao

[gritty epoch]

Can we scale it to 100% more and get two AG

[worthy cave]

I'm just trying to theorycraft how nutty this thing can go

[zealous mantle]

you could also get like what

[worthy cave]

bceause if you can get this to 100

[potent bramble]

I wasn't gonna be a summoner guy but after this... I might have to be a summoner guy again

[zealous mantle]

+1 of skill gems on amulet

[worthy cave]

with 5 max spectres

[fossil mural]

I have had this happen in poe2 2 leagues now. Ggg is really good at reading this chat room in particular

[worthy cave]

then you get to 10

[zealous mantle]

wait no

[worthy cave]

and then 20 after dark monarch

[zealous mantle]

doesnt work with supp

[vapid rock]

Then helmet and double it to 4

[haughty elbow]

Supports are not skill gems pretty sure

[zealous mantle]

hmmm

[onyx adder]

This would actually be good

[zealous mantle]

yeah i just brainfarted lmao

[crisp obsidian]

Well on gloves you can get stuff like +socketed int gems with fossils and it has +1 socketed and +2 socketed minion gem implicits

[zealous mantle]

but yeah im stoked

[worthy cave]

that said

[zealous mantle]

the hypothetical 10 holy strike weapons

[worthy cave]

Who's going to be corrupting +1 to spectres chests?

[zealous mantle]

im gonna have a lot of fun this league

[worthy cave]

That's going to be a MASSIVE f'ing gamba

b/c +1 to max spectres only comes from delve

[fossil mural]

Would be an interesting build as well. A lot of investment potentially to make it work

[worthy cave]

so you can forget about that if you're going for gem corrupt implicits

unless you're an absolute maniac

[zealous mantle]

femur of saints has +2 to socketed minion gems

wondering if youd scale even harder on that

[crisp obsidian]

I am like 99% sure AG's are hard limited to 1

[zealous mantle]

for a total of +5 to congregation

up to lv8

[fossil mural]

Ag rework pog

Also andrew I think said ag is never getting a proper ui

[slow niche]

ERM DOM BLOW BUFF

[fossil mural]

That thing is doomed

[onyx adder]

Maybe thats just because we havent tried hard enough yet

[slow niche]

idk if that's true

[sleek ocean]

helmet mod wiont work

[rancid sluice]

i dig the support but man some minion gear is going to be chase expensive af now

[crisp obsidian]

I mean with the new support gem people can try

You can get it to like lvl8-10

[onyx adder]

Yer its an actual use for it

[zealous mantle]

Oh does it not work?

[crisp obsidian]

I think

[zealous mantle]

Is it only skill gems or all minion gems

[full kraken]

new support gem is about 12% more dps for twisters wheeee

[onyx adder]

Rather than pogging out over mid linear damage increases with breakpoints

[warm oar]

haven't played in a few leagues, thinking about coming back for this one. how does the async trading (not currency exchange) work?

[potent bramble]

I'd like to point - isn't living lightning considered a minion?

[onyx adder]

Anyway im off to pob the actual broken support

[crisp obsidian]

Wait does the minion helmet have AG as a mod?

[stoic horizon]

it is yes

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can-google-it-gill-engvid-you-can-search-for-it-online-you-can-browse-for-it-on-the-web-gif-10409511348401384306

[coral crystal]

no ag for dark monarch

[sleek ocean]

the minion support wont get plus from +2 minion helmet

[zealous mantle]

Oh ok wait yeah

[stoic horizon]

you have a special stash, you put items there, ppl come over and take stuff from it

[onyx adder]

Sure but whats ur plan

[fossil mural]

Vaal repeat pog

[worthy cave]

well femur of the aints would lose any bonus from skellies/SRSs if you went dark monarch

[zealous mantle]

Helmet is to + to skill gems

[crisp obsidian]

Pob it and ship it back to hell where it belongs

[zealous mantle]

Rip to that

[crisp obsidian]

Fk strong melee stuff

[worthy cave]

yeah minion skill gems

[mild rune]

Hardcore viable?

[worthy cave]

KEKW

[sage falcon]

just log after using it

[fossil mural]

Just go blood barrier

[zealous mantle]

Any other options for scaling the support?

[crisp obsidian]

Very much so yes

[onyx adder]

Its like 300% more damage on cyclone shockwave or something

[warm oar]

is it the merchant's tab? are we meant to just convert all premium tabs to that?

[normal quiver]

any notes for the exceptional gems?

[full kraken]

additional effect: turns off RF

[potent bramble]

It's pretty simple, you use a different stash tab (in an NPC), set the price similarly to how you would during 'normal' trades. Other players can see that stash and buy directly from it by paying the price you set and also a gold fee. Gold is poof'd, currency goes to a bonus tab in the shop that you can then take out whenever you wish. Prices can be adjusted, but they do lock after a grace period so you can't spam change the price for like 10 minutes lol

[crisp obsidian]

Can you do double shockwave?? Omggg

[stoic horizon]

hp stack vaal bv reliquarian log in

[onyx adder]

Cyclone shockwave sucked but it didnt suck THAT bad

[onyx adder]

Yea i guess u can lul

But its not good

Except for clear

[stoic horizon]

not sure if the conversion is still available but you could do that when it launched

[crisp obsidian]

But it's funny!

[sage falcon]

i dont suppose the second shockwave would be better than a damage support

[onyx adder]

Because ur adding 1 shockwave worth of power to 6 shockwave worth of power

Plus the base from cyclone

[fossil mural]

And you got shepherd with blood barrier

[potent bramble]

I don't have one, other than wondering if there's some busted interaction there with combining the Dory's chest with Living Lightning having more minions since I assume they do lightning damage based on the name

[onyx adder]

So it'll be terrible for single target

But if u just want shockwave

[sleek ocean]

not alot of general + Minion Gems out there

[full kraken]

it might matter for the worm blaster build

[onyx adder]

Well the question u need to ask urself is how much better is 38% more minions than a different support gem more multi

Considering living lightning has ramp

[full kraken]

I dunno if living lightning count matters for the actual wormblaster

[lime bolt]

Well for spectres were talking about 1-2 more 50%auras.

[potent bramble]

Keep in mind, depending on the skill you can still use the imbued skill to get a bonus gem link, albeit slightly weaker than normal

[onyx adder]

Utility spectres is a good use

Assuming u need a 5th and 6th big aura

[worthy cave]

do spectremancers use dark monarch?

(probably)

[onyx adder]

Ppl here are talking about it in main links tho

[ocean nest]

Yes later on

[hard cliff]

always

[onyx adder]

I mean sure but that doesnt have anything to do with the opportunity cost of this gem

[cosmic raptor]

@grok is this true?

[potent bramble]

It does in the sense that you don't fully lose the support gem you're dropping to fit the new one. You just have a weaker one as a result

[zealous mantle]

Someone ban this guy

[karmic gust]

i dont like this support for most mass minions the minion one

[potent bramble]

Not saying it's worth it, just that it might be worth it

[coral crystal]

spectre players on their way to add all three purity spectres

[cosmic raptor]

why

[zealous mantle]

LMAO

[karmic gust]

it makes your clear worrse and its at bebst on par of existing support you already use

[stoic horizon]

NOTES UPDOOT

[vapid rock]

A perfect double corrupted [[Matua Tupuna]] would be +5 to the gem, +1 from vaaling the gem, +3 from base, just need to get +1 from somewhere else

[onyx adder]

Sure u are, now ur not taking into account the opportunity cost of the imbue versus using a different imbue

[zealous mantle]

I think unless the gem scales up to 66% more minions

[cobalt blade]

fuck they killed repelenshing shrine

D:

[zealous mantle]

It’s not worth pushing levels for holy strike

35% at base gets you one more

[tough cove]

i think they sensed a disturbance in teh mom/archmage force

[onyx adder]

Yer its not super strong its just a gem

But i think its useable

Like as 5th support

[karmic gust]

yea. said this before but its rly good for the catarina garbagetoo

[tough cove]

theres builds where it will be good at

[sleek ocean]

rip replensig shrine

[onyx adder]

Some minions have crappy 5th support

[karmic gust]

so theres some good uses at elast

[onyx adder]

It is good for cata

[karmic gust]

lmao rip replenishing memes

[onyx adder]

U get 20% inc damage on ur chains of command lul

PogU

[stoic horizon]

💀

[hybrid harness]

If repleneshing was killed then accel/echo wont even exist on the belt..

[cobalt blade]

taking credit for this nerf

[sage falcon]

proof ggg hates fun

[potent bramble]

65535 is such a weirdly specific number

don't read and type, y'all

[cobalt blade]

it had so much potential

[cobalt blade]

its not

[heady cliff]

yay delve fossils

[cobalt blade]

8^5

[karmic gust]

its just max short

[tough cove]

my question is does congregation work with spooders

[drifting epoch]

question about the search syntax, how do I search for map tiers 11-13?

[heady cliff]

2^16-1

[worthy cave]

if accel/echo doesn't exist on belt, what shrines are we even shooting for on offense?

[potent bramble]

[worthy cave]

Just the crit one?

[cobalt blade]

or no sorry 2^16

[worthy cave]

And all the others are just junk?

[vale holly]

wtf lol

[rancid sluice]

dark pact was already on cata bloodline .. hmm

[cobalt blade]

8^5 is half that lol

[potent bramble]

Gloom, if it exists, could be busted

[sleek ocean]

minion uses your wewapon anyway

[tough cove]

someone found an infinite point overflow

[stoic horizon]

the cata node was like 40%ish dmg on my dp in keepers

[hard cliff]

6^7

[tough cove]

thats what that means lol

[worthy cave]

ah right gloom is great for clear

[heady cliff]

FOR SCIENCE!

[cobalt blade]

skul

[vale holly]

It's actually 6^4

[worthy cave]

I mean divine shrine obviously had to go

btu the rest of them feel like...fair game?

[stoic horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552615024393322506/1477347987687739614/67-3x.gif

[charred hornet]

Rip mana regen shrine...its changed from 10% max mana into 200% mana regen lol

[potent bramble]

inb4 quant shrine

[hybrid harness]

where are the rest of the gems

[cobalt blade]

i dont like how they just shot replenshing lmfao

[tough cove]

because lets be honest, at 10% max mana a second it was going to be in some broken mana build

[onyx adder]

Also u guys know how we just got this melee skill that we all think does infinite single target but is heavy strike for clear

[vapid rock]

This should be against the TOS

[vale holly]

Yeah if the intent to make it on the level of MB

[cobalt blade]

i mean yeah it obviously slots into enabling archmage indigon

[delicate ether]

patch notes?

[vapid rock]

Scroll up

[charred hornet]

They already change 2 shrine now

Resonance shrine now only +1 max charge and random charge generate on hit

Replenish shrine from 10% max mana regen into 200% mana regen

[onyx adder]

What if u gave it a gem thats like a 70% more multi for single target and makes clear good

[karmic gust]

why did they added all damage can poison on pathfinder, pretty op

[tough cove]

?

[worthy cave]

Resonance would have been absolutely obscene with endurance stacking

[charred hornet]

Just open old patchnotes and scroll down..they already put the update for 4th day

[modest depot]

LETS FUCKING GOOOO

[vapid rock]

You forgot to include the dps in the picture, lol

[modest depot]

god group runs have been so cancer since keepers

you have to remake every zone u want to share or portal

[tough cove]

i mean its pathfinder, dps is pretty easy to figure out

[heady cliff]

what is your act times in party?

[karmic gust]

tides + khatals is basically whole pathfinder so why play pf :d

[tough cove]

true

[night fulcrum]

||IT CAN BE USED WITH AXES ???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|| nothing to see here :p

[tough cove]

yes

[karmic gust]

now im gonna put it on every oher build instead gg

[tough cove]

thats the biggest thing from that preview

[night fulcrum]

thats crazy good

[cobalt blade]

quick hide it so they dont remove that

[onyx adder]

U gotta hide the whole support

[tough cove]

sadly no unarmed

[modest depot]

like pb ?

or average

[hybrid harness]

is that good cuz current shcokwave is not for axes or

[true falcon]

"Cannot support triggered attacks" There are triggered attacks?

[heady cliff]

whatever

[cobalt blade]

gen cry

[tough cove]

current shockwave is staff, scepter and mace only

[cobalt blade]

also attacks on weapons

like the meatball weapon i dont remember the name of

[modest depot]

avg if i have a good group is 2:15-2:20

[heady cliff]

if you are good, they do not differ by a lot anyway

[zealous mantle]

i meant for congregation support leveling scaling

[modest depot]

pb was 2:12

[zealous mantle]

lv 3 is a breakthrough point at 34% more minions which is one more weapon

[karmic gust]

ngamahu

[cobalt blade]

yeah that one

[zealous mantle]

youd need to hit 67% for the second one

[karmic gust]

but wouldnt apply anyway beecause melee only

[toxic token]

Anybody know how can i see my charahter in poe ninja

[karmic gust]

same with hidden uuh

blade

[cobalt blade]

hidden blade

[cobalt blade]

love hidden blade

[charred condor]

Whut

[coral crystal]

need to hit how may

[charred condor]

I understood nothing

[hybrid harness]

these arent all the exceptionals right? They dont really mention showcase of further gems in the vid

[sinful jackal]

what are y'all starting on friday? 🤔

[tough cove]

we know its not all the exceptionals becaucse there were some exceptionals in the other preveiws

[toxic token]

Ligning tendril totems

[charred condor]

Some ranger build

[tough cove]

cpath slayer i believe

[modest depot]

@heady cliff

[modern zinc]

gonna do campaign as Arc then switch to Death's Oath at 62

[cobalt blade]

fiery impact is i guess a melee example

[charred condor]

Recommendations

[modest depot]

example splits

[cobalt blade]

from heist weapons

[hardy heron]

They want us to find them in play. A lot of people will use datamined stuff instead

[hybrid harness]

oh, bleh

[hardy heron]

Cis static strike

[tough cove]

they will all be known in 3 days regardless

[true falcon]

"Add 400% added damage and massive clear" what a silly support

[gentle ice]

most likely starting RF, that's boring but that's safe

[heady cliff]

what software is it?

[modest depot]

livesplit

[sinful jackal]

i really wanna do totems i just dk which

it just seems very nice this league

[tough cove]

lots of solid totem builds righ tnow

[stoic horizon]

the area didnt look massive ngl

[modest depot]

has an auto splitter where it can record a time when u transfer to a specific zone using client file

[tough cove]

2m base radius is pretty big

[teal hinge]

I might league start sweep honestly

[vapid rock]

Isnt kf the new hotness?

[true falcon]

2m and it repeats

[north spear]

PoB seems to halve the added physical damage from trauma support when I dual wield. Is it tripping or am I missing something ? If I add a custom flat added physical damage mod instead it doubles my damage compared to trauma support. If I equip a single weapon the custom mod and trauma support give the same result, but when I dual wield trauma gives only half the damage. I am dual wielding 2 almost identical scepters.

[tough cove]

and 4 repeats yeah

[hybrid harness]

I would do KF but thats very meta if u dont like meta stuff

[hardy heron]

I mean, Shockwave already had even more dmg effectiveness. The biggest thing is lower cooldown (though no charges)

[stray sedge]

16 min to get to act 2 is p nice

damn

[sinful jackal]

kf? 🤔

[tough cove]

shcokwave doesnt have more de

[teal hinge]

Kinetic fusilade

[sinful jackal]

ahhh

[tough cove]

shockwave is 350ish at 20

[heady cliff]

KF totems has a noticeable downside of required unique items costing x50 in this league

[sinful jackal]

possibly, i'll see

i still have 3 days

[heady cliff]

20% warped timepiece 10 div easily

[onyx adder]

This is group is it?

[heady cliff]

yep

[onyx adder]

16 min a1 is like impossible solo

[hybrid harness]

u dont need a 20% but yea it will be more expernsive than usual

[charred condor]

Should I play kinetic fusillade ballista hiero?

[heady cliff]

A LOT more expensive than usual

[tough cove]

shockwave has to get to lvl 39 to have more DE than void shockwave

[hardy heron]

For some reason the wiki had the lv40 version. You're right

[heady cliff]

even in phrecia warped timepieces were 0.5 div

[hybrid harness]

it's a t3?

[onyx adder]

t4

[modest depot]

yes

[tough cove]

but it has a wide roll range

[hybrid harness]

yea nah that shit might be a div first day but not after that

[heady cliff]

you'd think, but no

[onyx adder]

I was thinking i was washed for half a sec

[stray sedge]

Yeah, that shockwave gem really does look nice

[sleek barn]

wtf is vaal sacrifice

holy balls

[heady cliff]

reevaluating your life choices and skill issues?

[vapid rock]

How bad does it feel without it?

[tough cove]

its something for ward builds to abuse

[sinful jackal]

well, unless it's squishy

i HATE squishy builds lmao

[heady cliff]

amulet and rings are like... 2.5x the damage?

[wet granite]

Bro, axe based cyclone shockwave. We haven't gotten to play anything but staves for cyclone for soooo long

[sleek barn]

HOOOLY

wait

[true falcon]

It's essentially added 1350% damage per second

[heady cliff]

amulet alone probably around 30-50% more

[hoary scarab]

its sacifice

[modest depot]

fastest solo act 1 i've seen was 15:23

[sleek barn]

oh more maximum minions won't work with 100% decreased

[stoic horizon]

you still play staff until you drop it

[stray sedge]

My plan was to do regular shockwave on a mace, ill have to farm for this lol

[hybrid harness]

does scaling less duration improve dmg after hitting the threshhold where it becomes gattling?

[onyx adder]

With skill points?

[heady cliff]

no lab no crab no pirate?

[wet granite]

I know, but at least eventually you can get rid of the absurd staves pathing

[hybrid harness]

I thought it was a hit once then u have the big dmg

[onyx adder]

I havent seen that time since 1.x pretty sure

[modest depot]

everything

[heady cliff]

wtf

[onyx adder]

Wtf

[modest depot]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2629488434

[heady cliff]

with maphack?

[wet granite]

You save so many points by not having to go way up to top left.

[modest depot]

no. timmy is literally an act 1 demon

i don't think i've ever seen him outside of act 1

[keen veldt]

why does templars gem selection in act 1 have to suck

no faster attacks, momentum, no wand stuff

[heady cliff]

you DEUS VULT now

[dim gyro]

I wonder if u can have eagon memory thread and astrolabe influence on same maps

[heady cliff]

rest is irrelevant

[onyx adder]

Bookmarked thanks

[modest depot]

this is the level of madness this guy is on

[heady cliff]

[Crusader's Crusader Helmet of the Crusade]

[wet granite]

Also... shockwave support for Slams? Worth it if you're going RT axes?

[modest depot]

mud flats testing on diff setups

[teal hinge]

Holy flame totem is literally twice as strong now, just level eith that early

[keen veldt]

rn rn or in the new patch?

what did they do to it?

[teal hinge]

NewpTch

[heady cliff]

mud flats ethereal knives op confirmed

[charred condor]

Guys I don’t understand what the kinetic fusillade duration mechanic means

[stoic horizon]

do slams attack at least twice a second?

[sleek barn]

wait you're telling me league start is this friday

fuck

[charred condor]

Yes

[wet granite]

Yeah, once you get a decent axe absolutely

[teal hinge]

Doubled projectiles, 6 now instead kf 3

[golden phoenix]

[charred condor]

Guys I don’t understand what the kinetic fusillade duration mechanic means

[keen veldt]

when u summon more balls the duration is “reset” so u want the duration to be low enough that all the balls fly out before u summon more

[charred condor]

Could some one explain

[stoic horizon]

you want the duration to be lower than time between attacks so totems can shoot it at all

[dim gyro]

so this is either gonna be insane or trash right?

[true falcon]

I miss regret orbs

[scenic anchor]

how long does it normally take to check resources before the game launches?

[charred condor]

Ok?

[keen veldt]

Wow that is rly good

[stray sedge]

rogue exile scaling has felt kinda ass for a while

[keen veldt]

may just beeline to ancestral bond and yeet rolling off a cliff

[stoic horizon]

its not

[stray sedge]

this will just make it have insane IIQ I would imagine

[keen veldt]

it’s not??

exprain

[stoic horizon]

holy flame totem doesnt shotgun

so its still garbo boss dps

and for clear its maybe a slight buff

since the proj are rather thick regardless

[teal hinge]

I was only talking g about early leveling, its better for that

[heady cliff]

you charge your KF to max damage, lets say in 0.35 seconds; but skill has a base duration of 0.7 seconds, so without less duration you deal half the damage

if you have 50% less duration, you deal full damage, and if you have even more, it does nothing

[stoic horizon]

and still holy flame totem has the lowest shooting range of all totems

[keen veldt]

ok that is kinda nice tho, esp on controller it’s hard to optimally position them for clear

I’m only using it till a3

[heady cliff]

think of less/reduced duration as of cap on your attack speed

[trim sleet]

inb4 the shockwave for axes was a typo

[stoic horizon]

dont snitch to ggg

[onyx adder]

In b4 the three times as much damage and half cd as regular shockwave was a typo

[charred condor]

Ok is this correct

I summon a projectile that fires after 0.7 seconds

[hybrid harness]

Man Im sick of being shown op stuff just for it to get nerfed, just dont show us it in the first place

[charred condor]

And summing more resets the 0.7 second duration

[hybrid harness]

if anything what about a surprise buff here and there too

[keen veldt]

correct

[charred condor]

Ok

[stoic horizon]

toad buff surely

[charred condor]

And the sequence firing thing?

[stoic horizon]

you ignore it to be able to shoot like with a normal skill

[molten hazel]

can you lower the cooldown time for this with CDR ?

[keen veldt]

they fire in sequence, if you have the max (12) the last proj has something like200% more damage

[stoic horizon]

or more like, use multiple proj sources for that

[charred condor]

Oh

[keen veldt]

but u won’t have 12 proj per click

[karmic gust]

yea its just cd like any other

[onyx adder]

Yes

[molten hazel]

spicy

[hybrid harness]

how come its 3x the dmg btw. I see the cd but

[stoic horizon]

yeah

[wet granite]

I feel like shockwave was their way of giving an "option" to players to use make maces and warstaves appealing, but in reality it just meant that warstaves became the default best and nothing else was good for cyclone. Instead of promoting build diversity it just shifted the meta and killed any kind of cyclone build diversity. So if this is their way of correcting, I am all for it. I might be high on hopium/copium right now though lol.

[karmic gust]

454% de vs 140% de

[trim sleet]

notice what they are using in the video?

yep staff

[hybrid harness]

isnt shcokwave 460 at 20

[karmic gust]

no shcokwave is garbage at 20 :d

[fallow viper]

Damn I wonder if Congregation works with Dark Monarch. 16 spectre build?

[modern zinc]

it's good if you like pvp

[hardy heron]

Sadly no, that's 40

[onyx adder]

Shockwave isnt 140 i cant do math

[mellow kraken]

When is next league? The 5th?

[karmic gust]

oh wait

yea im blind xd

[onyx adder]

Its 400 or something i think so its not as bad

[modern zinc]

6th

[karmic gust]

yea 336

[onyx adder]

Still ridiculous support

[mellow kraken]

Thanks

[hybrid harness]

oh ur right but its still not that low, 336

[hoary scarab]

60 phantasm build login

[karmic gust]

i was lookigna t cost and reservation multiplier

lmao

[hybrid harness]

o xd

[onyx adder]

So did i for a minute

[karmic gust]

its 10pm and im getting old you must excuse me

[onyx adder]

Only 3x better not 6x

[stoic horizon]

wouldnt spectre build just use wraithlord

[keen veldt]

phantgasm build

[onyx adder]

Still ludicrous

[tranquil umbra]

if void shockwave is not limited to maces and staves I will be feasting

[stoic horizon]

just craft a phys axe ngl

[karmic gust]

weell it says on the gem that it can use axes

[hoary scarab]

disfavour, havent seen that in a long time

[karmic gust]

so sure

[tranquil umbra]

no I want big circle

[molten hazel]

do you guys think the mtx for shockwave works for this 1 to ?

[karmic gust]

but the qual is 0.5% inc damage

[wet granite]

Kind of hilarious how cynical we have become. "cyclone can't have nice things" lol. But I am right there with you, it absolutely could be a typo or mistake.

[stoic horizon]

it should

[karmic gust]

per qual

so like thats useless

[hardy heron]

I do think the loss of multiple charges is a real loss for shockwave. Void Shockwave is still stronger though. Please be cheap

[fallow viper]

Depends on how far you can push your base spectres. If you push more than 4 base spectres Dark Monarch doubles it all the same so more than 4 spectres.

[karmic gust]

to put in disfavour

[hoary scarab]

hmm actually, 60 phantasms is like 3.300 flat phys to spells with black cane

at lvl 21 gem

[sleek barn]

holy login

thats my build

[coral summit]

Void shockwave does more damage over a longer boss fight, but normal shockwave can frontload all of its charges at once to nuke a boss

[sleek barn]

minion zoomancer for stats

[hybrid harness]

''a number of enemies hit by the wave will release an additional wave'' does regular shockwave have that line?

[coral summit]

but void shockwave also has better clear and can be used on axes

[sleek barn]

• catarina bloodline

[tranquil umbra]

no

[sleek barn]

• looper

[coral summit]

nope, that's new

[hybrid harness]

so half cd, more DE, additional waves

and on axe

[gritty epoch]

and more expensive

[hardy heron]

Shockwave has cdr on level, so not really half

[gritty epoch]

[tranquil umbra]

the fact that you can use it on axes seals the deal

[hoary scarab]

honestly, might be solid for absolution of inspiring

[vale holly]

Atlas tree when

[hardy heron]

Probably the biggest strength of it. Maces are not as strong as axes

[slow niche]

Is lolcohol a good buildmaker?

[stoic horizon]

yeah

[hybrid harness]

oh I see the 38%?, so down to like 0.6. then its kinda the same

[thick goblet]

mostly yeah

[cobalt blade]

hes good at mid budget builds not great at league start ones imo

[tranquil umbra]

I mean you just use staves with regular shockwave because easy crit and block but axes mean you do not have to travel across the whole tree

[cobalt blade]

like single tincture warden

[modern zinc]

wait

Maven is a brain and not the hot chick?

that's depressing

[hardy heron]

Lv21 is super important for shockwave for the extra charge, so really 0.6s exactly. But void shockwave is much better with additional cdr

[slow niche]

I am asking cuz it just so happened i was looking for a dom blow build or warden

[cobalt blade]

Both

[frigid wedge]

ughhhhhhhh

[cobalt blade]

Also mavens a child in lore

[frigid wedge]

i gotta pob thissssss

[hardy heron]

The hot chick is basically her VTuber avatar

[cobalt blade]

hiii eri :3

[zinc kernel]

anyone excited for holy hammers?

[slow niche]

Not really

[frigid wedge]

hii naca

[keen veldt]

when do we fight mavens mom

[thick goblet]

she's a child btw

[charred condor]

Ok so my ballista attack speed has to be less than 1 second?

Or is it more

[frigid wedge]

isnt maven one of those weird situations where she experience like multiple centuries of knowledge rlly fast or some random bullshit excuse

[slow niche]

Damn so if we fail the maven encounter we get beaten by a child

[modern zinc]

Is it like, real child child or 1000000 years old child?

[thick goblet]

yeah she's like 1000s of years old or whatever, but as an eldritch entity she's a toddler

[tranquil umbra]

The Bestiary crafting recipe for Corrupting a Map to have 30% Quality instead now Corrupts the Map to have an Implicit Modifier.

[modern zinc]

well that's legal enough

[cobalt blade]

shes an eldritch being and technically thousands of years old but envoy is her caretaker and refers to her as a child

[stoic horizon]

both, she is a child in terms of her species, but she's thousands years old in human years

[zinc kernel]

she's a glorified elf

100 year old elf is a kid

[frigid wedge]

interesting

[charred condor]

Guys Ok so my ballista attack speed has to be less than 1 second?

[raven anchor]

Can the genesis tree make shields still?

[simple stag]

Step aside Bonezone, make way for

[thick goblet]

i think lolcohol has vids explaining the mechanics in depth
id just watch one of those to clarify everything

[thick goblet]

i think so

[cobalt blade]

the envoy voicelines after beating maven are funky

Cant remember the exact stuff off the top of my head but worth reading

[molten hazel]

i am confused about the new void shockwave the description leads me to believe it wont work with holy strike but that seems pretty harsh

[leaden quiver]

Hextoad support sounds so good

I cant

[blissful zodiac]

so super cyclone shockwave

[hoary scarab]

fem toads

[keen veldt]

can use nemrods calc

[blissful zodiac]

but 50% less shockwave damage

idk man

[cobalt blade]

Its only less on the repeats

[hard cliff]

goes hard

[blissful zodiac]

so super shockwave cyclone

[cobalt blade]

seems like p good buff

[hybrid harness]

how many times can it repeat on same mob

per hit with shockwave

[blissful zodiac]

and maces are cringe soooooooo like war staffs

[cobalt blade]

being useable with axes is probably the most nuts part of it though

[blissful zodiac]

staffs*

forget axes

[tranquil umbra]

yeah it means I can use atziri's disfavour for true aoe

[blissful zodiac]

gimme block chance

and crit

[keen veldt]

if league starting just slap less duration on there and don’t use a “cannot roll caster” or ias wand and it should full auto

[cobalt blade]

Staffs are useable with reg shockwave axes are not

[safe perch]

Imagine not league starting

[cobalt blade]

axes opens up some interesting things me thinks

[blissful zodiac]

@cobalt blade I know

[cobalt blade]

jus makin sure^^

[blissful zodiac]

no need to

[keen veldt]

the calc is recommended to learn as the balls need time to fly out also so breakpoint doesn’t exactly match the duration on the skill

[onyx adder]

Well the reason everyone wants to use axes is because theyve got better access to attack speed

[full lava]

naca how do i unlock farruls bloodline

[hardy heron]

The Grey Wind lifestacking sounds neat

[onyx adder]

Which is nice for qol but shockwave doesnt care about

[molten hazel]

always need to XD

[stoic horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz0kJAzZpoc
this guy knew, bro released a shockwave build 1h before the gem vid

[hoary scarab]

time to jack the axe

[blissful zodiac]

if ur thinking of doing bleed shockwave imma need you to slowdow

[cobalt blade]

you need a farric tiger alpha

[molten hazel]

trying again (i am confused about the new void shockwave the description leads me to believe it wont work with holy strike but that seems pretty harsh)

[cobalt blade]

opens portals to farruls boss you kill farruls boss

[tranquil umbra]

I mean he made a guide last league too

[full lava]

where to get that?

[cobalt blade]

run bestiary or buy it on trade

[keen veldt]

it’s a beast from the uhh

[cobalt blade]

its somewhat rare

[blissful zodiac]

he did that last league also

[onyx adder]

Its probably a decent clear setup tbh

[cobalt blade]

its from wilds

[blissful zodiac]

and the league before

[stoic horizon]

it will just your hit not minions

[onyx adder]

454 is bad but not awful and it triggers fast enough that u can run crimson dance

[cobalt blade]

Yee that is 1 route you can go

[blissful zodiac]

and no i will not wait

[molten hazel]

so the minions that are copies of my weapons wont trigger the void shockwave

[hardy heron]

they peaked at 10c last league on trade: https://poe.ninja/poe1/economy/keepers/beasts/farric-tiger-alpha

[heady cliff]

shockwave would like be double digit divines btw

[blissful zodiac]

no

[hard cliff]

https://youtu.be/qJwSzxRjSxg

whose ready to dance

[slow niche]

I wonder if beacon of madness is leaguestart viable now with the reliquarian ascendancy

[stoic horizon]

minions in general dont trigger

[full lava]

its pretty cheap

and where do you craft?

[cobalt blade]

the menagerie

[full lava]

is it on mengerie or something

ahhh

[signal hawk]

hmm I almost want to do a "this build has a lot of zombies" build this league, maybe second or third build

[cobalt blade]

it says something like open portals to farruls domain i think should be at the very bottom of the menagerie window tho

[onyx adder]

Btw does the new shockwave do enough damage to make normie ass static strike not suck

Yes right

[cobalt blade]

ithink it does

[keen veldt]

I always wanted to try the falling zombies

name him itsrainingmen or something

[cobalt blade]

the repeats seem like nuts clear atleast probably worth using on gathering?

[hardy heron]

It was never that bad. huffs copium

[zinc kernel]

are there still any tanky builds viable or did everthing get giga nerfed

[hard cliff]

yes

[cobalt blade]

es glad

[zinc kernel]

ES was cut in half, wasn't it

[next rose]

thinking about doing generals cry in the new league, is generals cry fun?

[full lava]

one more thing say it was different thing called "prey of something" does it matter what i pick?

[solar smelt]

Do y'all think ggg would ever create an item that doubles percentage chances? Or do ya think it would be too broken?

[cobalt blade]

yep people had 60k es this league on glads

30k es is still better than anything life

so

[cobalt blade]

wdym?

[hard cliff]

you can simulate it in standard a bit too play test

[tranquil umbra]

so like
double crit rate?

that's never happening

[cobalt blade]

does not matter

[full lava]

ahhhh

[cobalt blade]

just needs to be the tiger alpha

[next rose]

i can try, i was hoping to use holy sweep with it, but maybe i try another skill just to test it

[keen veldt]

there’s a lot of percentages in this game

[cobalt blade]

Thats the beast mods basically and they do different things no clue what they do

[slow niche]

I saw people use it for corrupting cry or smth, but with forbidden shaco and that's expensive

[keen veldt]

doubling all would be truly busted

[zinc kernel]

is the belt that can be anointed any good? Belt is such a competitive item slot

[solar smelt]

Double anything that has a percentage chances of occurring so crit rate, block, spell suppression, double dmg, etc

[hard cliff]

test it with sweep lol

[cobalt blade]

you synth it after anoint

[next rose]

lol true

[tranquil umbra]

yes this is never happening

[keen veldt]

good for totems prob

stretching for all the extra max totems is a pain

[steel light]

nice juiced map with lockbox, nerf ground loot further

[cobalt blade]

its strict power creep for any builds that ran synth belts

pita to craft though since vultures lmao

[stuck phoenix]

Ah yes. Double dps and double defences. Very fair
Probably more honestly

[zinc kernel]

chisel detected

bro got the last of it's kind

[grizzled lily]

how do you get the new awakened gems again?

[cobalt blade]

get voidstones kill bosses

[grizzled lily]

okay

[keen veldt]

I can finally cap attack block on top left build tho so i like it

[grizzled lily]

maven witness or