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[hexed mountain]

Ice shot 200 DE

Thats criminal ngl

[safe schooner]

ICESH T

[ember goblet]

anyone have a vaal fireball build for 3.28?

[wintry lily]

gonna try db's sarrow build with anime guardian this time around

[karmic gust]

well iceshot doesnt matter anyway

[fossil mural]

Jungs doedres set up did a lot

[wintry lily]

i remeber them doing someething for it

[karmic gust]

your single target is ballistas

so you are comparing stuff like arti etc

[fossil mural]

Yes, @karmic gust

[karmic gust]

and arti is pretty cracked skill

no disrespect on that one

[safe schooner]

Also we havent seen ANY footage of the static strike right ?

[ember goblet]

pob?

[safe schooner]

I WISH we'd see it work

[stoic horizon]

nop

[wintry lily]

iirc anime guardian doesnt lose all the gear upon death anymore right?

[karmic gust]

right

[wintry lily]

just cant be respawned in that area

[safe schooner]

Like the urge to start the "LS at home" is crazy

[stoic horizon]

correct

[hexed mountain]

Yeah it just dies for the current map

[wintry lily]

Good, that was the only reason why I never used it

even tho db has multiple builds with it

:V

[stoic horizon]

same with spectres

[karmic gust]

yea noone has any clue how the skill works atm xd

[wintry lily]

well spectres didnt have the risk of losing multi divine gears

[karmic gust]

def do not even think about starting it there is so many variables

that could make the skill unplayable or busted

[hexed mountain]

Kingmaker is probably going to cost more for AG tho. The soul taker buff is damn nice

[karmic gust]

unless you delay your league start and test it first

then its fine

[finite quail]

vaal fireball fury valve

[stoic horizon]

spectres themselves can cost divines tho, but yeah nowhere near the cost of juiced ag

[finite quail]

trust

[safe schooner]

I m tempted to go slayer and try it asap with fallback to elehit anyways

[wintry lily]

thats the neat part, I dont use them

[karmic gust]

well trying it asap means actually running lab for it :d

[hexed mountain]

I mean its a strike skill on slayer

[finite quail]

We have

[safe schooner]

nvm

[wintry lily]

the only spectres i've uused in recent time is uh, the respawning one

[hexed mountain]

You can try and have like 15 skills to fall back on if its shit

[forest locust]

Anyone have good knowledge on the microtransactions?

[safe schooner]

HOLY ?

[finite quail]

Oh you mean the NEW one

[wintry lily]

and its on db's build again as an aura slave

[karmic gust]

new one yes

[finite quail]

I mean it's not difficult to understand how it works

[safe schooner]

tell us how it works then ?

[hexed mountain]

Like the new guardian holy strike. Can go in blind anyway its easy respec on an S tier leaguestart asc

[finite quail]

you hit, you gain one lightning buff, every buff gives +1 chain for the singular lightning you shoot out

[stoic horizon]

we still dont know some nitpicks that will decide if its the new strongest strike skill or no

[safe schooner]

if it doesnt work as you say can i call you directly for refunds ?

[finite quail]

Sure

[forest locust]

How does the pilfering ring work?

[safe schooner]

ok

now does it DOUBLE HIT ?

[finite quail]

you equip it and it tracks ur currency drops

[stoic horizon]

you have it equipped, it tracks all currency drop for the current league

[hexed mountain]

Perhaps

[dim gyro]

I was surprised that pilfering ring doesnt track locks

[finite quail]

It should yeah

[safe schooner]

if it double hits apparently its 1380% effectiveness

[karmic gust]

we dont know if it can hit with beam and strike at same time, we dont know if all stacks refresh on stack gain or only one, we dont know if you can get multiple stacks per multiple hits, or if multistrike only gets 1 like trauma etc or no

too many variables to say anything about the skill

[stoic horizon]

thats like 1.5 of smite

[finite quail]

since first the attack has to hit for the beams to start attacking

[safe schooner]

while fully stacked

[forest locust]

My bad, should have been more clear. Is it a permemant thing I can use on all chars and in any season? or does it need to be purchased in the right league on the right char?

[safe schooner]

LS itself with nimis is 720% effectiveness

[finite quail]

Don't forget hydrosphere tech

[finite quail]

no

one ring per char

[stoic horizon]

ggg doesnt do purchases that reset per season unless specifically mentioned otherwise

[finite quail]

if your done with one char, take it off and put it on the next one

[split maple]

You can move it between chars

[finite quail]

the league does not matter

[forest locust]

So it needs to be purchased in the right league I want to use it in?

[finite quail]

mtx aren't league specific like one league it doesn't work

[finite quail]

NO

[stoic horizon]

no

[split maple]

No

[finite quail]

Anytime is fine

[mental violet]

Purchase one

[forest locust]

Ah ok so generic purchase, place it on who I want it on

[dim gyro]

yea only tracks for char u put it on

[safe schooner]

generic and shared between chars and leagues

[forest locust]

Didnt want to purchase it now and it not work on mirage. Thank you all 🙂

[safe schooner]

you just reset it to 0 when changing it char

[safe schooner]

so next szn you just grab it from the mtx tab and it will be reset to 0

[dim gyro]

they needa update ring to include the missing currency

[forest locust]

awesome, thank you to all who helped

[stoic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/insanecat-gif-16700687584290242459

we need 3 days skippa

[safe schooner]

i wish i could fall asleep

and wake up in 72h

(that would help with current exhaustion)

[ember goblet]

whats stopping you?

[dim gyro]

nah ud probs be more tired

[vapid rock]

So the wording on holy strike makes it seem like the weapons will just use default attack on the enemies you hit with holy strike, but the reveal video says that the summoned weapons will themselves attack with holy strike

[stray sedge]

Omg this is awesome

[vapid rock]

Have they said anything about that?

[stray sedge]

New fav gif

[modern zinc]

3 days until

[tawdry olive]

relic of the pact enjoyers are something else

[stoic horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118165205025828884/1311680666219577434/templar-waiting.gif

[leaden quiver]

Its a damn strong build

Falls over sometimes

But dps with HH is crazy

[spice pecan]

so can anyone point out the differences between old woke gems and new greater ones

i am struggling to figure out how and why this change makes any sort of sense

[spice pecan]

like what is the point

[opal ingot]

The philosophy is that they wanted to make the gems feel more transformative

[finite quail]

better stats, some removed or reworked

[spice pecan]

okay, so make the woke gems more transformative

[finite quail]

and generally they will have more transformative effects

[spice pecan]

remove/rework existing woke gems

why do we have to rename them?

[finite quail]

rather than simple number increases for common stats

[opal ingot]

Idk but it's probably cooler for them to do that

[spice pecan]

this shit is kind of annoying

[opal ingot]

Which is why they did it

[karmic gust]

probs was weird to have like 3 levels of gems

[stoic horizon]

woke gems were pure upgrades, greaters are transformative, at least in their mind, some of the ones they shown are just upgrades no matter their explanation (eg multistrike)

[karmic gust]

now we have 2 right

[tranquil umbra]

yes

[karmic gust]

kinda

[spice pecan]

they could do all of that

while keeping woke gems

[karmic gust]

i think it makes sense

[spice pecan]

by, guess what: changing the woke gems

[tranquil umbra]

you don't have woke gmp or woke greater volley anymore

[spice pecan]

instead of inventing another type

woke greater volley was not a thing

and woke gmp is straight deleted

[tranquil umbra]

you get the idea

[spice pecan]

i get removing non transformative gems

but why the fuck did we have to rename them

and then somehow reclassify them as exceptionals

[stoic horizon]

they did mention one of the new gems adds proj, but also with some additional funky effect they didnt specify

[spice pecan]

which confuses literally everyone

are these exceptional like enlighten/empower/enhance?

[tranquil umbra]

because they are removing sirus so there is no awakener anymore smile

[spice pecan]

could they clarify this in the patch notes?

[gentle chasm]

is anyone really confused tho

seems pretty straightforward

[spice pecan]

i fucking am

are they exceptional like the three current exceptional gems or not

[gentle chasm]

yea

you can see the xp requirements

[finite quail]

Fine by me, shakes up the support gem meta

[gentle chasm]

in plenty of the videos they posted

[dapper robin]

Does anyone know if level 2+ empower/enlighten/enhance can still drop (uncorrupted)? I don't think 4+ can drop at all anymore, right?

[spice pecan]

great, show me in the patch notes where it clarifies that

[opal ingot]

Probably just gonna be a Wed scenario

[kindred silo]

it literally says that they r exceptional

[spice pecan]

because it looks like they've tangled their wording and don't know what is what

[tranquil umbra]

the point of making them exceptional is to make them really fucking hard to scale I assume

[finite quail]

Haven't seen anything like that before unfortunately

[kindred silo]

and the teased ones were all lvl 3 i believe

[opal ingot]

Someone help neversink or else we'll lose our filters

[dapper robin]

Yeah.. Wondering if I can drop the +LEVEL enlighten/empower etc exceptions

[spice pecan]

if +1 gem level strongbox is a thing then i guess hypothetically, but idk if they can drop exceptionals

[leaden quiver]

Yeah, they dont get stuff that gives + to non exceptionals

Like the runegraft for +1 level to support gems

[spice pecan]

word

[gentle chasm]

it should be possible in theory still

[spice pecan]

absolutely not a fan of this gem change at all

[gentle chasm]

from a gems have experience gemcutter box

[tranquil umbra]

yeah if you want to scale them you need to do more wizardry

[azure sandal]

Hey guys, did they nerf Blight in the upcoming patch??

[tranquil umbra]

yes

[leaden quiver]

Yes

Not base blight

[azure sandal]

Shit.. any idea what they did??

[leaden quiver]

But the scarabs

[tranquil umbra]

read bro

[azure sandal]

yikes

[leaden quiver]

Blightheart spawns less waves

[dapper robin]

hmm

[leaden quiver]

Blooming gives less mobs

Thats about it

[azure sandal]

lmfao how silly

it was the last good farm

well back to farming Docks it is. thanks guys!

[dapper robin]

OK, but no longer as part of the delirium/incubator drop pool, right? There USED to be leveled drops to exceptional gems from those

[finite quail]

there's a gems dropped have additional xp mod on gemcutter shrines

[tranquil umbra]

they are buffing everything else so idk

[finite quail]

but no idea how much xp it is

[spice pecan]

i still fundamentally do not understand why they did not just roll this change into the current woke gem system

[hoary scarab]

almost like they completely reworked endgame

[dapper robin]

Delirium even dropped level 4 enlighten once

[spice pecan]

why do we have to obfuscate stuff with new names

[stoic horizon]

it prob can be giga buffed with new astrolabes tho

[opal ingot]

Gasp

[azure sandal]

already in Docks, thanks though!

[tranquil umbra]

also blighted maps are untouched

the scarabs are the ones that got tapped

[gentle chasm]

i think those got downgraded to quality only

[dapper robin]

perfect. Yeet.

Less rules

[spice pecan]

like this whole "rename it instead of changing the function" shit is irritating

[gentle chasm]

ah no wait there were 2 gem incubators

[tranquil umbra]

what does docks even mean in this scenario

[stoic horizon]

campaign zone

[tranquil umbra]

what is bro doing in docks anyway

[spice pecan]

magic the gathering has gone to slopshit in the last several years because of this

[dapper robin]

hmm

[stoic horizon]

farming

[solid stratus]

hi guys

[finite quail]

Would be weird if this applied to exceptionals now

[opal ingot]

Now it's come to poe because you're playing it. It haunts you

[solid stratus]

what're your league start plans today

[opal ingot]

Flicker

[spice pecan]

haven't competed in mtg since 2017

[finite quail]

glacial hammer of shattering elementalist

[opal ingot]

Sunder until flicker then complain about dying

[finite quail]

With a warstaff

[spice pecan]

league doesnt start for 3 more days

[limpid prairie]

Are cards for corrupted mage blood cheaper than a mage blood

[split maple]

Bleed boneshatter into zenith

[tranquil umbra]

personally I understand why they did this and it's because they fundamentally changed how they work

[main pike]

I kinda wanna try this Azadi crest flick but idk if it's meme

[solid stratus]

yeah but we know it changes at least once a day

[main summit]

Anybody experienced in running fire reap build which I can ask some questions?

[split maple]

Not rly, folks gamba on implicits

[finite quail]

well yes since you're buying a fraction of a mageblood

[spice pecan]

why ask now, then

[finite quail]

but not that much cheaper

[stoic horizon]

he tracks our data and sells it to ggg

[finite quail]

you end up paying more in total because of gamba addicts

[stoic horizon]

[opal ingot]

Bastard

[solid stratus]

i got you all, data collected

[finite quail]

god damnit now they know I like their game

[split maple]

Preemptive day before nerfs incoming now

[stuck phoenix]

Where's my kinetic rain buffs

[finite quail]

yeah this one officer

[solid stratus]

why are you avoiding the question

[opal ingot]

Roundhouse kick on kinetic fusillade

[finite quail]

keepers reveal kinetic rain

[solid stratus]

perhaps don't have a build yet

[stoic horizon]

mirage = desert league = no rain

[main pike]

Before FF to go slayer do people just play a different build or do they go gladiator flicker with azadi shield

[tranquil umbra]

fundamental rework of gems patch note coming on thursday to spite all content creators

[opal ingot]

When jung interview

[stoic horizon]

tomorrow

[tranquil umbra]

tomorrow

[finite quail]

tomorrow

[opal ingot]

Thanks you guys

[solid stratus]

tomorrow

[stoic horizon]

and in case you didnt see yet its tomorrow

[finite quail]

tomorrow

[opal ingot]

I really hope jung keeps a set of questions in case he runs out of topic

[tranquil umbra]

yesterday

[solid stratus]

tomorrow

[opal ingot]

[tranquil umbra]

jung will name drop every build he hates so ggg will be forced to nerf them

[opal ingot]

Last time I checked his streams he was talking about not having a docs of questions and just letting the questions come and go naturally

[split maple]

Just take some evasion and rely on overleech to soak up hits

Like slayer gets inherently tanky enough 75/75 block is good enough or even skip it entirely

[opal ingot]

I always visit his streams at the most opportune times

[tawdry olive]

> roughly adjust earthshatter and overexertion gem levels down to reflect numbers after nerfs
> annoint charisma on belt, drop herald of purity (dmg) or general's cry (qol)
> its still kinda busted

i dont even

[tranquil umbra]

I mean

[solid stratus]

just join me in being a trashmancer

[tranquil umbra]

yeah they didn't gut it

[tawdry olive]

even after double tap, earthshatter is HIM

[tranquil umbra]

doubt

[solid stratus]

ssf ruthless animate weapon + animate guardian, the revenge of the trash

[tawdry olive]

honestly the real painge is gonna be the lost of gamba and tree for ez weapon

there's gonna be that period red maps+ where you haven't recombed your 1k pdps axe yet

• the nerfs and before you can annoint the belt

[nimble rock]

are trap and mines the same in poe1 or can anyone tell me the difference?

[tawdry olive]

you'll feel it in the midgame

[nova pivot]

Is there someone that can explain and/or confirm the "downside" of the new keystone enabling you to run the same map in astrolabes?

Because i thought the "reward" would be the same for all the maps in the field, but people talk about having to mouse over and getting rng-ed into worse loot

[marsh rune]

Each time you run a astrolabe map, each other astrolabe map in the are gains an extra mod for more loot

[empty dove]

blobs need to not be interrupted, if your maps falls onto a side and not the middle you can cut your blob in half killing the reward chain

[marsh rune]

The keystone makes it so you don't get those extra mods

[nova pivot]

Aw that sucks a bit :/

[stoic horizon]

mines reserve mana and have built in auras around them and are detonated with a button/skill
traps just cost resource, are activated by enemy stepping on them unless specified otherwise

in general these days mines outperform traps hard

[stoic horizon]

you do you just have a decent chance of reducing the total runs from a blob

[marsh rune]

I'm assuming for some strats getting those extra mods will be really strong, like with Blight. But for others like legion or if your doing strongboxes, its worth to take the node and buy the cheapest astolobe for the vault

[whole bluff]

I think supposedly the big distinction was that mines were manually detonated and could target quite far, while traps just sprung on enemy getting close, but manual detonation is highly optional on mines these days

[lilac parcel]

so this is what they will smelt for people who like kingsmarch

[crisp obsidian]

Huh

[simple stag]

So with frostmage, you're gonna need EB or something right? But that also doesn't apply indigon so I don't get it. I'm a mana noob

[whole bluff]

dont snip the influenced area

[simple stag]

EB or lifetap, no indigon, but synergizes with guardian radiant faith, i don't see the angle

[crisp obsidian]

Yeah?

[cerulean breach]

am I gonna run lab on standard?

[marsh rune]

It removes a random one, and therefore can become Bisected, which means not every map gets the additonal mod

[cerulean breach]

I want to test something but the alt gem costs 80d lol

[crisp obsidian]

Ok but you still get the extra mods

[gentle chasm]

what gem cost fucking 80 div lmao

[crisp obsidian]

You claimed it disallows those extra mods

[cerulean breach]

glacial cascade of the fissure

[hoary scarab]

mine

selling lvl 1 pconc for 80div on async

[stoic shore]

Did rf change im still dying with res 75 and the regen node

[marsh rune]

Bro are you a fucking lawyer, let me correct my statement... "The keystone makes it so you don't maximize those extra mods"

[simple stag]

is frostmage gonna need like.. perma vaal clarity or someshit like im so lost

[hoary scarab]

no just use EB

[crisp obsidian]

Thank you, that is a very different statement

And a very different result

[marsh rune]

From what we saw, each mod incrementally improves the map, with one or two mods it pretty much not that different, but if you stack 7-8 of them then its strong. We had the same thing with memory map alters and thats what people found from that system

[tawdry olive]

that keystone is still gonna be worth it, you turn brain off and blast

[marsh rune]

For most content prob

[simple stag]

yeah no frostmage is doa i do not want to invest anything to make that work

[stark badger]

ggg too afraid to not let people run the same fucking layout forever 32 leagues in a row in poe1

[ancient sorrel]

If you could cast 10blades BV on one cast, for a 10s duration, what spell would you insert?
Bladefall? Ek ?

[gentle chasm]

more like ggg letting people actually run the same layout cause they could have just not added the keystone

[eternal hill]

ppl would riot if that keystone didnt exist

[tawdry olive]

yea you could see the reactions on twitch it was so hilarious

during the reveal

it was all dooming until they showed that keystone

[gentle chasm]

everything is dooming regardless

[eternal hill]

destructiver play is already large enough carrot to run non mono maps

[stark badger]

yeah at least running multiple maps is infinitely less of a hassle now

good job ggg

[tawdry olive]

yea tbh i didnt really mind changing/non optimal layouts

the part i minded was getting the maps for them

i even ran twist of fate harvest lmao

[stark badger]

but it's really funny that people complained so much about delirium fog because it makes everything samey, but will happily stay in jungle valley for years in a row

[cerulean breach]

anyone have any character on hardcore?

[tawdry olive]

tbf i have my limits, shit like cells... ugh

[stark badger]

yeah some layouts are borderline unplayable

[tawdry olive]

most players probably like just running 1 layout tho, that keystone gonna be part of the "club" with other things like brine king freeze immunity, carrying the game on its back

[stark badger]

even the worst poe2 layouts don't come close

which I think would be uuuh mire?

[split maple]

Mire is what unholy child of Maze and citadel

[stark badger]

mire is the huts and narrow bridges over a swamp

[split maple]

Tho I am ashamed to admit it but I started liking citadels for harvest - it's way less terribad if you just run the outer circle

[tawdry olive]

shitadel....

[hard cliff]

You don't need to add something to punish players for running the same layout over and over again. The Joy they take away from the game by doing that is punishment enough

[muted ledge]

It’s very very stupid that prospero’s protection doesnt affect shield skill damage. I thought I was cooking a reliquarian for a second there.

[pulsar vault]

It's not

[stuck phoenix]

It's not stupid

[pulsar vault]

Why a ring should give 100% more damage

[muted ledge]

It’s stupid

[stuck phoenix]

If it did affect it, they'd just have to give all shield skills 50% less damage to balance

[split maple]

taming wants to know your location

also death rush

[stuck phoenix]

And the reason it doesn't work

[split maple]

yeah ik ik not literarly 100

[stuck phoenix]

Is because prospero's is not on the shield, so it has to be a global modifier

[pulsar vault]

Taming is around 26 and Adrenaline is around 20-30 more

[stuck phoenix]

And shield skills read the shield's values as they are (after local mods apply)

[grizzled lily]

depends the skill

[muted ledge]

It says the armour of your shield is doubled. A skill that scales off armour should count it being doubled.

[stuck phoenix]

If this wasn't the case then any source of increased defences would also have worked

[grizzled lily]

some benefit harder from taming

[stark badger]

wishful thinking isn't a game mechanic

[stuck phoenix]

No

[cerulean breach]

wait

[grizzled lily]

elehit

[cerulean breach]

trade on standard is completely broken?

[stuck phoenix]

That's like saying increased armour should be increased damage

Do you think so?

[cerulean breach]

every 'instant buyout' I click on says item no longer available

[muted ledge]

Yes. These stats should do what they say.

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

That's not on the shield

[muted ledge]

Stats should do what they say they do

[grizzled lily]

yes and no

[stark badger]

they do what they say. next question

[stuck phoenix]

They do what they say that they do

[cerulean breach]

it is tho it says the armour OF YOUR SHIELD is doubled

[muted ledge]

They say the armour on your shield is doubled

[stuck phoenix]

Where does it say that on the shield?

Last I checked, prospero's protection was a ring

[cerulean breach]

to be fair, that's not actually waht it says

[stuck phoenix]

And that's not a text on your shield

[stark badger]

it doesn't say that. if you're going to try to nitpick in your favour at least get the facts right

[cerulean breach]

if that's what it said, it should work

[muted ledge]

The stat should do what it says it does

[cerulean breach]

so call me misled

the actual stat is

Armour from Equipped Shield is doubled

[stuck phoenix]

Lol

[grizzled lily]

is unseen hue better than interrogation?

[cerulean breach]

that's different

[grizzled lily]

no right?

[cerulean breach]

if it said "Armour of Equipped Shield is doubled" it should work

[hardy heron]

It's armour from equipped shield.

[cerulean breach]

@grizzled lily for cold builds absolutely

freeze is a huge defensive mechanic

[grizzled lily]

yea cause of brittle

[tawdry olive]

the other gotcha related to shields is the gladiator 50% block chance node coupled with the attack block per chance to block on shield mastery

they dont work together i believe, it still takes the original shield's block chance

[grizzled lily]

100% crit

[hardy heron]

It's like when...you can in yugioh
Or more vs increased

[muted ledge]

Then GGG shouldn’t write stats specifically in confusing ways just to skirt around one interaction

It should do what it says it does

[grizzled lily]

yea but its a statistic

[dry tree]

Well except glad node specifically says INSTEAD

[stark badger]

just because you don't understand it it doesn't mean it's "written in confusing ways"

[grizzled lily]

they have specific wordings

for specific methods of calculating

[stuck phoenix]

GGG is genuinely speaking, the least misleading game on the market in terms of wording accuracy relative to its scope

[tawdry olive]

yes, the wording is specific, i called it a gotcha because its very easy to overlook

[astral shadow]

Only local stat affect the base armor, such things as double shield armor isnt local modifier and only applies towards your character's total armor

[stuck phoenix]

GGG is a game where you can actually read something, and know what that means, without testing

For a vast majority of items, so long as you understand the basics

[grizzled lily]

yea

[stuck phoenix]

Local vs global is one of the basics

[tawdry olive]

the one time i recall where the thing didnt actually do what it says....
got fixed in 3.28 lmao

its the claw instant leech mastery

[gritty epoch]

GGG is a game?

[hardy heron]

Okay, I wouldn't go that far

[muted ledge]

That’s just straight up not true. Global vs. local modifiers are not clear on their face at first glance.

[stuck phoenix]

Prospero's is not a shield, so any stats it has affecting a shield MUST be global

[stark badger]

and as long as you don't have a preconceived opinion of what something should do and are hellbent on warping definitions in your favor

[stark badger]

relative to scope? absolutely would go that far

[stuck phoenix]

That's one of the gripes but still not that difficult to understand if you just test a tiny bit

[grizzled lily]

theyre if you open your character screen and check the armour

[fluid stratus]

Guys, is Supreme Verdant Magus Supporter pack worth it? The Arcane Isle HO looks sick

[stuck phoenix]

And I didn't say it's perfect

[grizzled lily]

yea its cool

[stuck phoenix]

I said GGG has done an amazing job considering the complexity

[stark badger]

it's amazing that poe never collapsed on itself even if it has reached stupefying amounts of bloat many years ago

[grizzled lily]

but the map isnt exactly made for speedrunning

[stuck phoenix]

What game of a similar scope is better

[tawdry olive]

from 3.28 onwards i can no longer whine about why im not getting 20% ES instant leech, its so over

[grizzled lily]

its aesthetically pleasing but you lose the prettiness when you stack every crafting and npc

on one island

[stuck phoenix]

Yeah, arguably a bug though

[stuck phoenix]

You got me

I messed up

[steady elk]

it's MTX. that's an entirely subjective question and we can't make that decision for you. that said the points are best value if you want tabs and other mtx tho

[grizzled lily]

this is just ragebait right

he asked if its a cool map cmon

no need for the chatgpt special here

[astral shadow]

Worth if you want support ggg, otherwise not

[stuck phoenix]

It's true

[tawdry olive]

One day, they will comb through all usage of "nearby" and assign values to them, then we will ascend to valhalla

[stuck phoenix]

Mhm

[lethal orbit]

got anymore of those.... teasers?

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[stuck phoenix]

Bro we have patch notes

What more do you want

[steady elk]

idk what you're waffling about i just answered his question

[gritty epoch]

Soon surely

[stuck phoenix]

Did you even check the three gems on the mirage page

[gentle chasm]

probably not at 6 am nz time

[astral shadow]

www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3909036/page/1#p26560163

[grizzled lily]

you gave him a headache

[molten hazel]

guys what about this with the new nova skill and the fact that we can put a support on the skill gem seems like it could be pog

[grizzled lily]

and me

[steady elk]

poor ragebait have a nice day

[gritty epoch]

Why does foulgrasp support have a secondary radius

[muted ledge]

But you understand how it’s better when stats do what they say they do, correct? Can we agree on that and leave it there?

[stuck phoenix]

It's good when stats do what they say that they do

[grizzled lily]

they do tho?

[muted ledge]

Cool 🤝

[stuck phoenix]

PoE is not, and cannot be, written in plain English. It is a language of its own, where More and Increased are different

[grizzled lily]

wel its just math so

[winged dagger]

do we know the kiraak pass or the challenge reward? i thought those usually get announced with the livestream but i don’t remember seeing it

[finite quail]

no

[muted ledge]

That’s arguably one of the reasons PoE 2 became its own game

[finite quail]

not yet

[winged dagger]

dang

[grizzled lily]

poe2 has the same mechanics no?

[gritty epoch]

Most RPG have niche interactions and hidden formulas I mean

[steady elk]

i imagine they'll release another teaser sometime this week

[stuck phoenix]

PoE2 became its own game because they wanted it to be a fundamentally different gameplay experience

[grizzled lily]

isnt 3.28 coming this friday?

[winged dagger]

poe2 is more streamlined and built for impact over speed

[hard cliff]

reposting this cause it's killing my sides

this man is so happy about his totems

[gritty epoch]

Totem player detected

[tawdry olive]

https://tenor.com/view/punya-gw-gif-21591247

[steady elk]

indeed it is

[grizzled lily]

im 98% sure more and increased are in poe2 too

[subtle forge]

with skills that hit with both weapons, would the paradoxica "double damage" mod apply to the entire attack, or just para's portion of it?

[grizzled lily]

the weapons attack

[winged dagger]

i don’t know why they used more and increased as examples

[grizzled lily]

same as hits cant be evaded mod

[subtle forge]

so just para's bit?

[grizzled lily]

its local

i think so

[modern zinc]

Is this the guy that was in the Q&A with ZiggyD?

[stuck phoenix]

Combined hit is one of those cases that are least intuitive unfortunately

[modern zinc]

he hasn't changed one bit

[subtle forge]

yeah

[hard cliff]

the beard helped a lot

[grizzled lily]

viper strike has that mod no?

[stuck phoenix]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Hit_combination

[grizzled lily]

or am i tripping

[stuck phoenix]

There's a reason there's a dedicated wiki page

Lol

[grizzled lily]

yea

this game isnt for everyone unfortunately

and its not because its hard

but its not telegraphed enough

like barely

[subtle forge]

yeah, seriously

[grizzled lily]

youd think using 2 claws would give u double the damage

[subtle forge]

there's so much fineprint 😒

[grizzled lily]

but it has a mitigation

[stuck phoenix]

Well, hit combination is genuinely just a mess

It's genuinely one of the places that have poor design in that it's basically impossible to know almost anything about how it works without testing

[grizzled lily]

you wouldnt even think cleave uses a combination hit

[stuck phoenix]

Because some with this weapon effects do apply to the full hit

[grizzled lily]

or vaal flicker?

not even flicker has it

the vaal version

[stuck phoenix]

But yeah double damage is probably only the weapon that has it as far as I understand

[subtle forge]

'cause my thought/hope was that, say, paradoxica would be part of the combined hit, and all the damage would be doubled, but it seems not

[grizzled lily]

well depends on the ability

you can do smth like

[subtle forge]

had dual strike in mind here

[grizzled lily]

mamba

[grizzled lily]

well it works?

read the wiki

its there

its part of a combination skill

dual strike and the transfigured version

you benefit from paradoxicas bonuses

now idk if you can fit in two of the weapons

but it can work

[stuck phoenix]

What

[subtle forge]

nah, was just gonna use one

[stuck phoenix]

As far I understand it, the question is: will "dd with hits from this weapon" apply to a weapon without that same stat in the other hand (for a combined hit)?

And as far as I understand, it won't

[grizzled lily]

https://pobb.in/yW3m21aSxRGn

well if this works..?

i suppose using a paradoxice instead of that rare sai would just up the damage

as it uses both weapons to attack

[tired niche]

With ambidexterity that'd be a good use of a slow paradoxica, sure

[stuck phoenix]

You did read dsoa right

That setup works but it doesn't care about double damage applying or not to the off hand

[subtle forge]

What I had in mind was using Grey Wind in MH and Para in OH

[tired niche]

Not much point in that

[stuck phoenix]

Why

[grizzled lily]

i mean tou can use tempetuous steel instead of grey wind..?

[subtle forge]

Life stack

[grizzled lily]

i think he cares more ab ele pen or?

[grizzled lily]

yea but wouldnt u need rathpith?

[subtle forge]

had an idea of DSoA lifestacker, and was wondering if Paradoxica in the OH doubled the entire combined hit

since it's an "attack with this weapon"

[tired niche]

Basically anything related to damage calculation (hit damage, ailment dps, stun) is calculated independently per hand. A mod local to one hand only applies in that half.

[stark badger]

the fine print is probably that a combined hit is an "attack with this weapon and another weapon"

[stuck phoenix]

That also is separate per hand

[stark badger]

(I wasn't even aware that combined hit was an actual mechanic until 5 minutes ago)

[brave marsh]

This strikes me very much as a build that looks better in PoB than it feels to play.

[nocturne maple]

it's much simpler, it's just calculating everything assuming normal dual wield, and then just adds the two numbers together

[grizzled lily]

tbh kind of but it actually works

in paper it looks good asf

but its one of those ruetoo hit mamba bullshits

[subtle forge]

heh

[grizzled lily]

https://pobb.in/wcVmHutiXs9g

smth like this

its a combined skill

so

yea idk

[sleek barn]

rip mamba

[grizzled lily]

rit hitbase

rip*

[tired niche]

It's not really related to wording, just to timing. For example:

Ignites inflicted with this Weapon deal #% more Damage? Ailment dps, so before combination. Applies to one hand.

Hits with this Weapon Shock Enemies as though dealing #% more Damage? After damage calculation, so it applies to the combined total from both weapons.

[unique sierra]

is new shrine belt base drop or boss drop?

[sleek barn]

no idea

[grizzled lily]

i dont think they said anything

they were supposed to say it today or yday

[stray sedge]

clear your cache or refresh browser history or something and try again

[unique sierra]

hopefully its boss, to avoid having to mouse over 3 base type belts lmao

[grizzled lily]

i would sell that belt unid’d

prob really damn expensive

[tired niche]

Unid would just be the price of a divine orb no?

[grizzled lily]

idk not really cause it has

[crisp obsidian]

From new boss

[grizzled lily]

watchers eye mods

[crisp obsidian]

No

Not divinable

[hardy heron]

Boss drop

[grizzled lily]

you can get diamond shrine

and idk smth good defensive

[tired niche]

Oh were we told that already?

[unique sierra]

oh, got a source? i didnt find any info

[stray sedge]

It'll retain the shrine modifiers if you divine it, just reroll the chaos resistanceand other stat

[fathom fjord]

yes

[grizzled lily]

yes, in the interview

[nocturne maple]

yeah, one shrine mod alone would be super high value by itself

[hardy heron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFzHf3etCTA&t=680s
timestamp for boss drop confirmation

[nocturne maple]

so it being divinable would be...questionable

[tired niche]

Gotcha. Still, wisdom scroll it, you cowards

[grizzled lily]

imagine you get the extra es defensive and diamond shrine

boom

thats a mirror right there

[icy swan]

what build should i go for

[fathom fjord]

it's gonna be heavily weighted towards bricks

[crisp obsidian]

Pretty sure it was said in reveal? Maybe I am wrong

[unique sierra]

tyvm

[potent bramble]

I do wonder if it'll be reroll-able via Beasts somehow

[grizzled lily]

we barely know any of the new uniues tho, only like 4-5

the sword

the belt

the amulet?

[crisp obsidian]

Ok?

[grizzled lily]

they didnt say much ab where they are from

[nocturne maple]

WTS brutal/skeleton shrine belt

[crisp obsidian]

Pretty sure belt was mentioned to be from new boss, sword is from mirage

Amulet idk

[potent bramble]

I wonder if they consider Skeletons to be offensive or defensive shrine, or if there's a third category for misc

[tired niche]

Or both, to dilute the pool!

[subtle forge]

Wonder if that works for Dark Pact?

[grizzled lily]

p sure skeletons one is offensive xd

cause it impacts minion players offensively

[potent bramble]

'Cause there's also like the shock and freeze shrines, which are... something, probably

[tired niche]

Dark pact says skeleton minions, and skellies from shrines aren't minions, so I'd expect no

[nocturne maple]

even if the mods were weighted, only like 1 or 2 shrine buffs would make it not great. Every other shrine mod makes the belt insane

[crisp obsidian]

Shrine belt sucks

Overhyped as fk

[potent bramble]

Based take. If you find any just throw 'em to me and I'll make 'em go away

[nocturne maple]

jijiPT dusting off the market manipulation API again I see

[crisp obsidian]

Nah they go to the vendor directly

[potent bramble]

Gotta get those alch shards, :nodders:

[crisp obsidian]

Did you know that if you calculate the amount of money API makes you it would be

[mellow jackal]

Hi, havent looked at anything real for the league this time around, just want to ask if TR PF has been affected in any way?

[nocturne maple]

nah, tr stays the same

[crisp obsidian]

No, it's still shit

[mellow jackal]

Good enough to get to t16 on shoe string then thanks. will figure out the league stuff on friday

[full fossil]

chat what build is better for shaper/elder/sirus guardian farming kf totem hiero or bleed slammer or uhhhhh idk sometihng else

[tawdry olive]

its kinda like RF in a way, i remember it also has a very detailed levelling guide for it, no idea if it's being updated though

comfy builds that just fall off a cliff when you want to start scaling

[hard cliff]

If my build doesn't really use any defensive stats like evasion and armour are there any good cheap early map int or int/str boots I could get for some survivability or should I just go triple res life?

endgame the guide suggesting end ralakesh for example

[still wing]

is Dom Blow good for an intermediate-ish player learning to do Ubers/full clearing of seasonal content? im fukin stupid if that matters

[crisp obsidian]

Just go for highest %ms

[hardy heron]

Seven-League Step confirmed best boots in the game

[gritty epoch]

Something that can also zoom

Zoom to boss, kill, repeat
*Do it as fast as possible

[sleek ocean]

might get baited by attack builds again xD

[brazen vector]

action speed implicit
30% ms + 12 ms if not hit recently
beats seven league steps

[full fossil]

i mean that would be ideal yea but unsure what build can actually do this tbh

[vapid rock]

Its non-slam attack league

The borrowed power heavily favors them this league

[gritty epoch]

15m DPS, ignore all defence, zoom via frostblink of wintry blast or leap slam with giga attack speed

[hardy heron]

TIL

[vapid rock]

Minions are also probably going to be great too

[grizzled lily]

kf totems/ballistas, you pllace everything and walk to the next pack

[vapid rock]

They're always socket starved

[full fossil]

thats probably not a thing day 1 icl

just tryna find a bosser that wont constantly die day 1 that i can farm all the guardians + their maven rotas

[gritty epoch]

Probably aim for day 3 coz influenced map is hard to get day 1

[nocturne maple]

just be jung

[full fossil]

cant you just buy them no?

or what

[grizzled lily]

day1 guardian farmers xdd

what do you guys think you are

[gritty epoch]

Ppl are still doing atlas and stuff day 1 and there is low supply

[sleek ocean]

banner champion also always tempts me

[crisp obsidian]

Day1 guardian farming is ez to do

[grizzled lily]

yea with a 24h game session

[full fossil]

although, im leaning towards kf solely because bleed slam is apparantly tight to cap suppress or smth, and needs aload of buttons for bosses according to phaze

[grizzled lily]

and 1 kg of adderral inhaled

[gritty epoch]

Usually if a build is good at guardian invitation farming it should be great (fast) at shapers so u can do shapers for day 2 too

[nocturne maple]

I'm doing the opposite. I played bannerman slams last league, now I'm playing zerker slams this league

[full fossil]

what u playing btw

since im still tryna pick

[gritty epoch]

If u are bossing focus on DPS first those are your div/hr

[hoary scarab]

himself

[gentle wolf]

As someone coming from PoE2, is Shadow any good or should I keep on rolling the Witch?

[nova pivot]

What do you guys think will be "build of the league"?

[crisp obsidian]

Something into pf scourge arrow into pf coc fr poison cwdt looper

[sleek ocean]

did animate weapon cheerleader

[grizzled lily]

did u see the new banner support? you might want to play it again

[full fossil]

assuming your farming guardians and shit on the scourge?

[crisp obsidian]

Pf coc fr poison cwdt looper

[crisp obsidian]

Impossible to answer before even seeing atlas tree

[grizzled lily]

kf

[crisp obsidian]

But most likely yes

[hoary scarab]

shadow in general is fairly weak rn, witch is just solid all around

[full fossil]

how so?

[nocturne maple]

maybe, I played phys dot like 3 times past 5 leagues so I'm a little tuckered out on those

[crisp obsidian]

Cause I have no clue what's gonna be in it

[sleek ocean]

was my banners

[grizzled lily]

if you want to play smth, play smth that can do expedition, it should be the best mechanic this league

[nova pivot]

You have a POB?

[crisp obsidian]

Yes but not on pc and the pob is not finished

[gritty epoch]

Wrong, sanctum will be best mechanic

[sleek ocean]

😅

[full fossil]

btw whos uhh scourge arrow build you suggest? was gonna do deathbeams but the one he has on the fourms hasnt been updated for 2 leagues, and the one on his pobb.in is a finished build so unsure how to transition into it after i got 2 stone

[crisp obsidian]

Deathbeams

Only build I know

[nocturne maple]

this was my pob list for keepers, I was a banner fanatic

[opal ingot]

Wow that's a lot

[worldly bridge]

i think holy sweep needs its base aoe doubled

[full fossil]

which one tho? this is the one hes got on pobb.in so not rly smth i can swap to after 2 stone

[sleek ocean]

it throws out hammers as well tho

[worldly bridge]

ok but its 70% as of a mace

swing less but swing big

[sleek ocean]

quite normal for big melee attack

[grizzled lily]

NO keep sanctum as fake weak so noone will start playing it again

[worldly bridge]

i got to act 4 last night playing sweep on a marauder and it was the worst feeling skill ive ever played

it needs some qol

[grizzled lily]

holy purple build

[gritty epoch]

Those KF totems need fracturing orbs u see and sanctum drops fracturing orbs

[worldly bridge]

otherwise its a build you reroll into

[full fossil]

purple?

[grizzled lily]

i mean

brown

not purple

[sleek ocean]

hammer is 286% ED in additional to the 440% base ed

[full fossil]

brown..??

[grizzled lily]

yea

[full fossil]

what are you yapping about

[blissful charm]

does anyone know if arakaalis fang and Bonemeld amulet work together?

[grizzled lily]

brown build

full of uniques

[blissful charm]

i.e. reduced max res and increased defence per spider?

[crisp obsidian]

Impossible to answer, I am just clicking stuff I know works on the build

[gritty epoch]

Check base attack speed

[sleek ocean]

i know its 0.7

[crisp obsidian]

That's not even that full of uniques tbh

Missing lots

[sleek ocean]

but thats quite common for such large attacks

[fathom fjord]

Through pathfinder many things are possible

[full fossil]

main thing for me is the gems/rings/boots/belt and the progen/gold flask

wouldnt know what to use in place of them

[modern zinc]

no league spoilers today? what's going on

[fathom fjord]

It is 7am in Auckland sir

[gritty epoch]

Anytime now

[worldly bridge]

😩

like come onnnn this is not ok

poor maces

[modern zinc]

oh

[gritty epoch]

Poe2 maces?

[crisp obsidian]

Progen is just defences, you wont need it vs guardians. Rings are pinnacle drops, belt can be replaced by a flask rare belt and gems are just gems, replace awa versions with normal

[nocturne maple]

if you scroll down on db's pobbin list, there's an older version of SA that has levelling stuff

[worldly bridge]

this is a ss from a poe1 sweep pob

[sleek ocean]

at least its an attack so it can have multistrike

[worldly bridge]

in act 2

[nocturne maple]

you can incorporate some of it from there

[full fossil]

what about enlighten

[worldly bridge]

im actually not sure if multistrike is good because generals cry might be better

[full fossil]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/pf-poison-scourge-arrow

this ?

[fathom fjord]

Run one less aura

[worldly bridge]

for QOL

[nocturne maple]

ye

[hoary scarab]

ew deathbeam

[full fossil]

yeah uh

that doesnt help

xd

[hardy heron]

get it a little lower and you can use the double damage mastery

[nocturne maple]

just throw on rares

[crisp obsidian]

You don't need any of those

[sleek ocean]

attack speed matters less iuf using that sure

[nocturne maple]

none of them are necessary

[worldly bridge]

is this a meme

[hardy heron]

Yes

[worldly bridge]

ok

they should really buff that node to be 100% chance

if youre underinvesting in attack speed

[full fossil]

i'd prob use this if i go scourge arrow to pick out the gear ig idk

[crisp obsidian]

Deathbeams pob's are great cause you don't need to 1:1 copy them, you just need to have knowledge how to acquire the same stuff in different way

[worldly bridge]

nerf the dmg of course

[full fossil]

since its practically all uniques

[sleek ocean]

you have pulverize as well XD

[full fossil]

although im curious why he drops the unique amulet for a rare one and swaps the quiver for the totem one

[hardy heron]

Yes. It would probably still not be very good

[elfin shale]

If i link Spell 1 to a trigger, and Spell 2 to the same trigger and also another trigger, disabling it, Spell 1 will still function normally, right?

[grizzled lily]

cauae he goes totems scourge arrow

[crisp obsidian]

Quiver cause of totem placement speed nerf in 3.28, amulet cause of rings most likely

Idr what the new amulet is like

It's just stats right

+attris

[worldly bridge]

well time to practice templar start so i can reroll my quin build "swepp jugg"

[worldly bridge]

i actually struggled with t1 lab lastnight, thats how bad sweep is

[full fossil]

wdym rings btw

oh

i see

[hushed slate]

is legion farming something that is only done early in the league or is it viable through the entire league till the end?

[crisp obsidian]

Yeah it's just to fix attris + mana costs(and regen)

[worldly bridge]

despairge

[full fossil]

yea just saw he swaps to double unqiue rings

[elfin shale]

holy attack time

[full fossil]

after looking at it abit more, it seems fairly simple to gear {if you have the uniques}

[crisp obsidian]

Almost 1s attack time??

[elfin shale]

Are you using Marohi whats going on over there

[crisp obsidian]

Pf bismuth flask makes gearing so ez

[full fossil]

head hunter would turn it into cyclone fr copium

[tranquil umbra]

it's something you should never do because it's ass

[sleek ocean]

havent touched spectres for a while does the corpse versions of spectres get deleted if dead or do they respawn next map like ag?

[full fossil]

pathfinder bismuth?

how so?

[nocturne maple]

solves res

since you have perma uptime

[full fossil]

right but why does pathfinder make bismuth giga

just regenning that many charges?

[crisp obsidian]

Cause pathfinder = flaskfinder

You find all the charges

[full fossil]

is that the case with erh

[fossil mural]

They respawn like normal, and if you unequip the gem or lose atrributes to use it then they drop the corpses on the ground

[full fossil]

qiucksilver too?

[crisp obsidian]

Qs is harder to sustain but it should stay up in maps

[hushed slate]

thanks really helped

[full fossil]

from the looks of it, his pob uses sharpnal ballista into toxic rain into Scourge

which is interesting

might give it a try dunno

[tranquil umbra]

I was being serious btw
like genuinely do anything else legion just doesn't really give much

[late slate]

was mod 'Minions convert 100% of fire damage to chaos damage' on gloves still availabile in 3.27?

[fathom fjord]

Don't tell him that I need people to supply timeless jewels

[worldly bridge]

leap slam has a .82

[stray sedge]

https://imgur.com/a/mYmbPEp

[rancid sluice]

@late slate no

[worldly bridge]

literally almost faster to just pop quicksilver and walk

[sleek ocean]

are most non spectre perma minions rather weak?

[pliant hamlet]

like?

Golems aren't bad

[elfin shale]

Is Trauma a buff, debuff, or neither?

[nocturne maple]

Buff

Ah good old mantra of flames boneshatter, how I miss thee

[sleek ocean]

like zombies

[pliant hamlet]

Zombies are just bad in their own right

they're mechanically bad

[sleek ocean]

now that i think of it there isnt that many perma pets xD

[cerulean breach]

where does PoB gets its radius numbers?

[pliant hamlet]

you can juice them to have good numbers but their mechanics will always suck

[cerulean breach]

I tried looking on poedb but I can't see it

[fathom fjord]

Math

[tight plinth]

data mined prolly

[cerulean breach]

https://poedb.tw/us/Glacial_Cascade_of_the_Fissure

[cerulean breach]

if it were datamined, why is it not on poedb?

[sleek ocean]

i never liked dom blow

[pliant hamlet]

Reaper is...fine, but clear is always an issue

[tight plinth]

no idea

[pliant hamlet]

You need to solve clear

[cerulean breach]

pob says this has a base radius of 1.2m, but I can't find where it got that info from

[hushed slate]

@tranquil umbra what would you say is more worth the time then?

[pliant hamlet]

Golems are ~b-tier, S-tier at super high budget, Holy relic is always a solid A-tier, Reaper is A-B tier with bad qol, AG is ...hard to place. Like AG's dps is bonkers, it's very cheap, can insta-kill ubers, and the clear is passable. Not amazing, but decent.

[mental violet]

I hate picking a league starter 😭

[pliant hamlet]

zombies aren't a real build lol

[crisp obsidian]

https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/tree/dev/src/Export/Skills prob from here

[tranquil umbra]

if you want to kill a bunch of mobs then breach

[hushed slate]

what do you think of bossing? like carrying people etc. ?

[tranquil umbra]

that works too sure

a lot of things work but legion is particularly awful for some reason

[mental violet]

Tft server is the boss carry area

[hushed slate]

but it is better then last season right? legion

[tranquil umbra]

I mean

they didn't buff it

[mental violet]

Legion will be great with double dip

[tranquil umbra]

the double dip

could produce good results

[mental violet]

It's tile loot and they didn't buff anything but rare currency

[tranquil umbra]

but I am not optimistic

[hushed slate]

well gonna have a look at some other things thanks tho

[mental violet]

And they said in ziz interview a 4 ritual map with mirage will = 8 rituals of favor

[placid hull]

If trying to finish the campaign as fast as possible, is it better to keep the quicksilver flasks you drop or use all of them to get movespeed on boots(in case you dont get any from vendor)?

[ocean nest]

also can get 2 blights and 2 abysses

i love blight and abyss...

[neat sluice]

Can someone wake me up Friday night please thanks a lot have a good long night

[cerulean breach]

act_int.txt doesn't seem to be exported

[mental violet]

My man likes lines of Crack all over his map

[ocean nest]

https://giphy.com/gifs/CocaineBear-bear-cocainebear-cocainebearmovie-DEPEiX5CV05ioTwmOn

[hard cliff]

don't forget the quicksilver room early in prison act 1 I think

[mental violet]

I really wonder what new rewards are hidden in the campaign

[ocean nest]

somewhat managed to get a blight+abyss+harvest tree

[sleek ocean]

Did you try the minions in keepers league that came from offerings? Hiveborn

[pliant hamlet]

Nah never touched it

I didn't get around to my minion ideas in keepers, had too many other builds i wanted to play

[stoic horizon]

i used them on my dark pact

[pliant hamlet]

foulborn uniques were fun

[sleek ocean]

Wonder if they are any good at all

[mental violet]

They gonna cost way more now with alot and I mean alot of people blocking breach

[pliant hamlet]

My 2nd or 3rd build, depending on uber drops, is gonna be either AW or AG w/ the breach unique axe

[stoic horizon]

honestly i only used them for brittle

[placid hull]

wdym?

[pliant hamlet]

o/ Howdy viper

[hazy kiln]

For PoE1 it depends on the skill. Some old skills that have not been updated to use stats have a hard-coded base radius, so the only way the community knows that number is from it being directly mentioned by someone from GGG at some point

[stoic horizon]

and now they cover in frost instead

[pliant hamlet]

Know what you're playing?

always fun to see your wild builds lol

[cerulean breach]

I'm interested in Glacial Cascade of the Fissure which PoB says has a base radius of 1.2

but I can't find where it got that number from

[ocean nest]

a wild viperesque appeared. good day

[hazy kiln]

I didn't think I was going to have time to play until a couple of days ago, now I have exactly 1 week to play so I'm gonna need something stronk. Haven't decided what yet

[pliant hamlet]

just gonna say, the glacial cascade community isn't a community I'd doubt lol

[stoic horizon]

ppl poison tested that skill a lot lately, it mostly doublehits, 3hit rarely

[pliant hamlet]

ooo no meme build this time?

[cerulean breach]

from my personal testing it appears that the explosions are ~1.5 meters apart

[pliant hamlet]

who's the glacial cascade guy? if you can find him, he has very precise videos with tons of testing

[cerulean breach]

although I didn't take into account the first explosion being offset from your character

[pliant hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4LOIsCtylk

[cerulean breach]

I also don't know if the glacial cascade explosions are actually circular

[ocean nest]

I will start with Forged Frostbearer Spectres and maybe switch into Hydra spectres later on.

[cerulean breach]

1.5 years ago you were able to show me this for frostblades of katabasis, there's no chance perhaps you could show me something similar for GC of Fissures?

[blazing spear]

frost blades of katabasis got found in a bathtub full of ice, with its organs stolen

[modern zinc]

I wonder what tier Death's Oath is

[tranquil umbra]

my skill has got 12m radius so I'm chilling

[modern zinc]

hopefully B with low investment and at least S- with high investiment

[pliant hamlet]

not a minion tier 😛

[modern zinc]

Jesus that's huge

[stoic horizon]

D tier because it starts with d

[pliant hamlet]

I've never played death's oath, so no idea

[modern zinc]

have you played righteous fire?

[pliant hamlet]

A bit

[stoic horizon]

definetly nowhere near s

[hard cliff]

Google this the devil check but in act 1 prison there's a secret room on the first floor that gives you guaranteed quick silver and I think an Alchemy orb

[blazing spear]

F

[stoic horizon]

even on investment

[pliant hamlet]

I've always said RF is a B-tier skill with a S-tier guide

[covert otter]

are t17 spectres gone?

[pliant hamlet]

and I stand by that

[tranquil umbra]

no

[pliant hamlet]

nightmare maps are old t17s, same areas just easier

[blazing spear]

Death's Oath is a really shitty RF

[stoic horizon]

the maps still exist, just not as t17

[covert otter]

oh ok ty!

[elfin spire]

wait, wtf is ward?
i didn't knew it existed until i looked what armor i got from boat

[native abyss]

is it friday yet

[stoic horizon]

it wards you

[tranquil umbra]

funny defensive layer

[stoic horizon]

[blazing spear]

No

[native abyss]

damn close

[elfin spire]

why it exist and is it usable?

[pliant hamlet]

It's fateshield if you know what that is.
whether you take 1 damage or 500,000 damage, all of the ward goes away. It recharges over 4 seconds. It's a temp hp pool

[stoic horizon]

thursday and tuesday sound basically the same, so league is basically tomorrow

[blazing spear]

[pliant hamlet]

[eternal apex]

What would you start as a Marauder? I'm thinking Bleed Slams but I'm not sure it'll transition well from Duelist -> Marauder.

[blazing spear]

zenith

[potent bramble]

It's in about 20 minutes, I thought 😉

[modern zinc]

smite

[main osprey]

sunder until the sun burns out

[stoic horizon]

it exists because expedition decided it wants to be funny and make you think the mobs dont take damage until they do, its only useable in specific setups and it used to be useable in a very popular autobomber that has been quite bonked since, it also has a whole bloodline around it

[blazing spear]

you mean zenith

[potent bramble]

We just gotta ignore the two blocks on the left, they're not real

[main osprey]

i'm first time slammer late in keepers league

my eyes have been opened

ts is so gas

[pliant hamlet]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Ward
It's honestly quite usable. With full investment, it recharges over around .25s. You can also just use orloth's flask and be functionally immortal in most scenarios. You can also just ignore the defensive portion entirely and use it as pure offense w/ nightgrip. Or some combination of the above.

Wardloopers use it extensively

[blazing spear]

I would start zenith

[stoic horizon]

so gas it gets nerfed

[main osprey]

if i just don't bother with 10 million exertions i won't feel the difference

[native abyss]

i’m about to glorp out

[main osprey]

playing unoptimally is so fun

[pliant hamlet]

take a10m dps build, do 40k dps

[merry agate]

Did that new foulgrasp support do anything other than allowing 2 more brands and the arm bomb things

[nova pivot]

Does anyone know if someone has cooked up a good holy hammers or holy smite build?

[hazy kiln]

I'll be in the office shortly, I'll check what's up

[cerulean breach]

🙏

[worldly bridge]

https://youtu.be/zRQc33PyRAE it finally finished processing

[grizzled lily]

SUNDER

[worldly bridge]

its not lookin good yall

[grizzled lily]

i love sunder

[worldly bridge]

like leap slam is clearing better

somehow

[sleek ocean]

I dont mind melee minions as banner, got Over 200% ms afterall

[grizzled lily]

fungun made a video ab kb again

its over

[simple stag]

that's not fungun thats his evil step brother fubgun

[tranquil umbra]

that's why you use sweep on gc

[sleek ocean]

Though he was going bow

[grizzled lily]

im on phone

[simple stag]

bows and wands are effectively the same fub

thing*

[grizzled lily]

yea but he made a video ab a build that isnt cbt

[stoic horizon]

one at least can use shields

[grizzled lily]

well now headhunter will be expensive again

[split pagoda]

earthshatter zerker

[civic charm]

Wouldn't EB be great with the new shock nova skill gem?

[simple stag]

dont knock rearguard

[unique crown]

Goratha is baiting me into league starting shock nova

[stoic horizon]

if eb wasnt gigabonked together with int/es stacking

[sleek ocean]

Animate of reflection energy blade i Kinda like

[simple stag]

how are u gonna deal with all the mana cost

spammy spells are fun but how long can u spam em for

[split pagoda]

goratha build is just archmage hiero, baseline is alrdy tried and tested just depends how exactly shock nova turns out

[civic charm]

You can life stack though with rath and foulborn ghost and circumvent a lot of the downside.

[grizzled lily]

no need to spam

[split pagoda]

but like it was already decent with ball lightning of orbiting or ice nova for example

[grizzled lily]

just spell cascade

[civic charm]

It has built in cascade

[grizzled lily]

whole screen cleared

[sleek ocean]

Harbinger belt is base loot

[grizzled lily]

so put a second one lol

make a whole screen of shock novas

[simple stag]

actually interesting thought whats the difference between procession and regular nova with projection+cascade

[grizzled lily]

one has cascade alr

so a second one can be put aswell

or idk

ill check everyrhing on league launch