1┃general

[tight plinth]

it "buffs" your damage but it doesnt count as a buff

[pulsar vault]

All this kind of stat are always a buff

[tight plinth]

eh?

[fossil mural]

Did wiki people make shit up

[pulsar vault]

Taste of Hate for exemple

[fossil mural]

[stoic horizon]

support just says it inflicts flame, doesnt elaborate further

[pulsar vault]

But okay

[hoary scarab]

it does seem like thats on the hit itself, not for a duration after the hit

[pulsar vault]

Imagine it's not a buff

[soft perch]

Taste of hate is entirely different lol

[pulsar vault]

The mirage will still hit one time

with a snapshot attack

[soft perch]

Yes and mirages can apply hallowing flame probably because it’s a global on hit modifier

[pulsar vault]

so it will never gain the benefits

[soft perch]

And mirages are separate with one another

They are different entities

[fossil mural]

Mirages in mirage league

[soft perch]

See why it’s actually quite confusing

[fossil mural]

😩

[hoary scarab]

so much mirage in this chat and not one word about the league mechanic

[stoic horizon]

wait and they will also benefit from the phys as extra lightning from guardian

[fossil mural]

Charged dash

[stoic horizon]

[soft perch]

Or none of it works

[tight plinth]

^

[soft perch]

Why do u think I’ve been pobbing generals cry guardian

[hoary scarab]

the guardian buff is more likely to work than hallow flame for the mirages

[pulsar vault]

They will only benefits from the guardian nodes

[tight plinth]

wording makes me think it works but until were in game, its all theory

[stoic horizon]

i mean the phys as lightning will defo apply since they copy over what you have, but yeah all comes down in if they proc flame or nah

[fossil mural]

Game theory

[pulsar vault]

It depend

[soft perch]

They have to proc the flame to get the phys as extra

Otherwise no

[tight plinth]

you still have to "proc" the debuff, mirage may or may not proc it, i believe it will but who knows

[stoic horizon]

the fire part yeah, the lightning from node itself no

[hoary scarab]

you can still just cyclone the enemy

[fossil mural]

Maybe mirages can apply it

And you csn consume it

[tight plinth]

yes you can cyclone

[soft perch]

The lightning yes actually

[fossil mural]

For the notable

[soft perch]

It says

Hallowed flame removed by an allied hit

[stoic horizon]

buffs you

[fossil mural]

Jung will clarify frfr

[pulsar vault]

Yes but mirages are more proxies than allies

[soft perch]

Yea, but mirages still need to be able to trigger hallowing flame to get them

Proxies are allies

[stoic horizon]

exactly

[pulsar vault]

Like Master of Metal doesn't work on mirages

[hoary scarab]

just ye ol' cyclone cwc general cry it

[soft perch]

That’s because you share the modifier

It’s boolean

[fossil mural]

Booolean

[soft perch]

Actually no

[hoary scarab]

hey

[soft perch]

It’s because it’s an offensive buff

[tight plinth]

cooolean

[soft perch]

And that doesn’t work on proxies

[pulsar vault]

It work, because they get your offensive stats not their

[fossil mural]

Shit mechanic

Has one niche use

[soft perch]

Yes I know

[fossil mural]

And no one knows how it works

[karmic gust]

only part of master of metal that shouldnt work is the armour

[soft perch]

But they don’t get it twice

[split lodge]

does anyone know how spectre spells work? Does adding levels to raise spectre just increase the damage by flat amount with no multipliers? Or does it work like a normal skill where adding base damage is valuable?

[soft perch]

Is my point

[soft laurel]

why doesn't the delirium encounter end???

[soft perch]

Because they’re allies but gain your stats and don’t have their own offensive stats and buffs

[tight plinth]

is it deli orbs?

[brazen vector]

eternal delirium activated?

[hoary scarab]

is it a deli map?

[soft perch]

They might even be flagged for the allied thing to be given to them but it does nothing

Because they’re proxies

[soft laurel]

ye it's orb

[tight plinth]

yeah they dont end

[hoary scarab]

those dont end

[stoic horizon]

orbs dont end

[fossil mural]

You already got the rewards

[brazen vector]

orbs dont end

[stoic horizon]

you get drops on each fill

[fossil mural]

Orbs dont drop at the end

They drop when you fill a stage

[soft perch]

Makes perfect sense as to why master of metal works and doesn’t apply twice and is definitely very different to hallowing flame on guardian

[soft laurel]

oh fr, I didn't know that, thx guys

[tight plinth]

[spice pecan]

wait wait wait

[fossil mural]

No no no

[spice pecan]

did they just kill bugged fire res chest?

[hoary scarab]

F

[split maple]

where

[stoic horizon]

[tight plinth]

that would be hilarious

[spice pecan]

sec

[soft perch]

I saw someone use one post keepers yesterday

[tight plinth]

i dont think they will

[fossil mural]

Unitintentionally maybe

[tight plinth]

and i dont think they should

[hoary scarab]

?

[soft perch]

I think that’s different

[spice pecan]

i can't find it in the patchnote spoilers anyways

[tight plinth]

could always check trade

[hoary scarab]

yeah its not the same bug anyways

[karmic gust]

its not even in the post anyway

[spice pecan]

i'm not actually seeing this in the patch notes wtf

[karmic gust]

so its just made up

[molten hazel]

is there any youtuber/streamer that is making a holy strike build ?

[soft perch]

Ragebaited

[spice pecan]

damn, it looked properly copypasted and everything

[wary scroll]

Speaking of Holy Strike

[soft perch]

Tbh I’m not sure why they never fixed that chest

[stoic horizon]

because standard

[tawdry olive]

https://tenor.com/view/misinfomation-gif-7843354733697490220

[karmic gust]

im surprised they didnt fixed the chest yet tho, playing in standard was already pointless but with the chest making builds in standard is completely pointless too

[spice pecan]

anyways, about to temple a legacy juju

[soft perch]

Yea sure but they’ve fixed bugged items before

[karmic gust]

and yea they do remove bugged items

[spice pecan]

poof, rip one legacy item

[soft perch]

Damn that was probably worth like 5c

[spice pecan]

bought it for a div

[stoic horizon]

mmmm standard economy

[tight plinth]

rip 1 div

[spice pecan]

same as non-legacy 15 aura effect ones

[ocean nest]

https://giphy.com/gifs/liar-lie-misinformation-7PxuiRgTZG9H1B1vW7

[spice pecan]

temples are 4d in standard and it's a pain in the ass to buy them on async

[soft perch]

I wonder how many divines exist in standard across all characters

[pulsar vault]

2

[tight plinth]

more than 2 for sure

[spice pecan]

im finally below 1k div

[pulsar vault]

3 ?

[soft perch]

Perhaps 3

[tight plinth]

nah i have 2 in my stash alone

[soft perch]

There’s gotta be like actually billions surely

[tawdry olive]

i usually just spend everything so my standard stash is probably broke bitch

[finite quail]

more than 3

[soft perch]

I bet 5

[fossil mural]

Surely everyone gambles it all away

[true falcon]

72ish more hours

[karmic gust]

well mythik just spent 1

[haughty bloom]

more than 2 or 3

[karmic gust]

so 2 left

[ocean nest]

I probably havent logged into standard for 7 years

[soft perch]

I mean they have to be physically used

[ocean nest]

should be overflowing with remove stash tabs

[true falcon]

I occasionally long into standard to see how a support interacts with a skill

[fossil mural]

Whoever buys them surely has a use for them

[soft perch]

I wonder at what point ggg genuinely struggles with item storage across every character

[true falcon]

Storage is basically free

[soft perch]

Because there must be a point

[fossil mural]

Warn that all remove only tabs will be deleted in std

[molten hazel]

so i take the silence as a no to my question XD

[haughty bloom]

probably doesnt take much to store player data

[fossil mural]

A 5mb floppy per player

[haughty bloom]

the servers cost a ton I saw a 2022 finance sheet on some reddit page and they pay a ton for it but they're crazy profitable

[karmic gust]

as long asthe stuff isnt listed on trade it has probably barely any performance impact on anything

and yea otherwise storage is cheap

[true falcon]

Probably not far off

[karmic gust]

and compression for most of text data is pretty broken

should be nerfed :d

[fossil mural]

Delete winrar 🔥

[tawdry olive]

any winrar payers in chat

[soft perch]

Fair enough

[haughty bloom]

you think there's ever going to be an end of poe or will the engine keep going for 40 years

[quaint zinc]

This is gotta be good no?

[stoic horizon]

no

[pulsar vault]

Yes, Eihnar told us about it "Best prepare for the end"

[soft perch]

I would’ve assumed items are complex and diverse enough that their individual text strings alone are kinda long

[fossil mural]

At some point virtual reality will exist and everyone will play poe there

[quaint zinc]

Why

[stoic horizon]

not buffed enough

[fossil mural]

Slams were nerfed across the board

[quaint zinc]

😔

[fossil mural]

This is just to compensate basically

[true falcon]

PoE1 dies when PoE2 becomes PoE1+++

[pulsar vault]

So in 40 years xd

[fossil mural]

Poe1 dies when it doesnt make money

[quaint zinc]

Is the holy hammer skill no good either then?

[fossil mural]

Holy skills fucking succ

[tawdry olive]

here's the thing, it depends on how easily you can get it to overlap

[haughty bloom]

poe2 just needs dark pact and exsanguinate and its better than poe1

[pulsar vault]

No a better Charged Dash

[true falcon]

Holy Strike looks cool but I don't know the knowledge to PoB it

[fossil mural]

For single target

Clear doesnt exist

On it

[tawdry olive]

if you're just doing one slam for 100% more damage and power charge for 20% more
its gonna be comparable to sunder/groundslam etc for much more hassle

but... if you can overlap 3 though

heh

[lucid gale]

Carthago delenda est.

[haughty bloom]

making cast on minion death good again would be great its kinda bs how buggy and pointless cast on minion death is in poe2 rn

[hexed mountain]

idk man clear on the reveal looked good , idk what setup he had tho

[hexed mountain]

can always use another clear skill

[stoic horizon]

dp in poe2 be like
affected skeletons revive twice as long
8s cooldown, expand power charge to bypass

[fossil mural]

And like 3% of minion life as damage

And an innate item skill

[pulsar vault]

"Holy minions from Holy strike can strike every 6-7 hours"

[fossil mural]

For an extra fuck you

[pulsar vault]

Can wait to have minions that need sleep

[fossil mural]

Bro its literally a normal strike skill with splash for clear

[hexed mountain]

look the reveal he cleared half the screen

looked more than just splash

[fossil mural]

Holy strike? No he didnt

[hexed mountain]

on the port map

[low lava]

Think you are thinking of holy hammers ?

[true falcon]

Is it 2.6m melee strike range or +2.6m melee strike range

[fossil mural]

Yea watch it

Lmao

Literally strike with splash

[soft perch]

Holy hammers clear on the reveal might be the best a skill has ever looked on a ggg reveal

That is why I’m hype for that skill

Bigly aoe

[stoic horizon]

the shock nova as well

[soft perch]

Because holy moly ggg do not advertise their skills very well sometimes

[hexed mountain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFzHf3etCTA&t=13m15s

thats not just splash

[fossil mural]

Idk why they are hellbent on showing ruthless gameplay for poe1 too

[fossil mural]

Yes I just looked at it

[spice pecan]

man, there's a decent aurabot simplex in std for 1mirr

[fossil mural]

Its like

[spice pecan]

but i spent all my shit during the league

[fossil mural]

Actually 3m around char

[tawdry olive]

yea it does look hype, i really want it to work too, its just when you're rushing leaguestart you start to really feel when a skill has underpowered numbers on single target

[fossil mural]

Clear

Just splash

And strike range

[lucid gale]

If you're putting textual mods into storage server-side, you're probably doing it wrong.

[subtle forge]

does VD of seething work all that well still?

[low lava]

holy strike looks like splash to me, looking in the video.

[fossil mural]

How much is a mirror

[spice pecan]

1700d

[fossil mural]

And how much is osin

In std

[sour wadi]

several

[fossil mural]

Several what

[hexed mountain]

unless he got very high strike damage and + strikes that's more than the usual splash

[fossil mural]

Divines?

[soft perch]

The numbers are pretty solid tbh

[spice pecan]

osin is 1.0mirr from async

[soft perch]

Before even considering overlaps

[hoary scarab]

a handfull

[spice pecan]

in person listings go down to 0.7mirr

[soft perch]

They’re nothing special

[stoic horizon]

a dozen maybe

[hoary scarab]

atleast 7

[fossil mural]

A fistfull

[soft perch]

But holy hammers numerically looks very playable

And it’s aoe is clearly exceptional

[haughty bloom]

wait for classic ziggy day before -70% effectiveness of added damage nerf

[lucid gale]

As for compression in general, that performs better the more data you can fit into the compressor's context, but that also means that decompression and heaven forbid modification is costlier.
If you want decent random R/W, you're probably gonna limit the compression scope or have none at all.

[stoic horizon]

holy hammers gc guardian cope

[fossil mural]

Hammers basically chain, so it makes sense its good

[karmic gust]

yea true, got tunnel visioned on storage costs :d

[hoary scarab]

holy hammers are gonna clear legions so hard

[soft perch]

I will keep coping until ggg says hallowing flame doesn’t work

[subtle forge]

holy hammers with penance mark

[soft perch]

In the q&a amen

[soft perch]

No

[hoary scarab]

i dont think you can make holy hammers overlap

[stoic horizon]

penance doesnt do anything for that skill

[tawdry olive]

true looking at just the damage numbers, but there's some clunk because it converts 50% to lightning and needs power charges for 20% more damage and giga AOE, you also cant use axes so its not as straight forward to compare directly.

i am tempted to start it too btw, it looks dope

[soft perch]

U can for sure

[fossil mural]

Maybe if you get a lot of red area

[subtle forge]

😔

[soft perch]

It just uhh

Requires the edges overlapping a bosses hitbox

Which is easier said than done

[lucid gale]

Please wait while the tape robot fetches your remove-only tabs from near-line storage.

[low lava]

Cant wait to test it. I will try and have as much power charges as possible too 😂

[fossil mural]

I dont think stacking more aoe will ever work for holy hammer?

[hexed mountain]

could just romira for charges

[hoary scarab]

from what we have seen, they seem to have thought of that

[soft perch]

The edges very clearly touch

[fossil mural]

It sounds like new hammers fall from the edges of previous hammers

[slow niche]

does the radiating sentinel from guardian ascendancy scale well into endgame?

[true falcon]

Out of curiosity, do you know how much storage roughly a several year old account takes up?

[low lava]

i would not stack it, but adding a bit sounds better in my ears.

[tawdry olive]

that works up to 2/4 stones yea, its what im gonna do too if i play the skill

[hoary scarab]

imma touch you for editing

[soft perch]

Ye but if a boss is basically on top of the apex of both it probably gets double hit

[hexed mountain]

stack aoe then play a map with tight coridors

[lucid gale]

You could probably do some back of the envelope calculations, but I'm not sharing anything.

[hexed mountain]

then wonder why you're not playing mamba since you're doing toxic sewer like maps anyway

[true falcon]

Fair enough

[low lava]

tho 1.7 does look quite small 😂

[tawdry olive]

yea like toxic sew-
...

[fossil mural]

"Toxic sewer-like" sounds like soulslike

[tawdry olive]

[lucid gale]

The number of Standard stash tabs are somewhere between a heckload and a metric crapton.

[karmic gust]

holy hammers looked pretty much almost exactly like spell cascade mechanics

[hexed mountain]

removing toxic sewer is the only L of this patch

[karmic gust]

at least from the preview

[hexed mountain]

ngl

[hoary scarab]

i definitly cant see goly hammers be a good single target skill

[fossil mural]

Maybe if you use it next to a wall

[hoary scarab]

even then, the damage effectiveness doesnt even look great

[tawdry olive]

there's some smaller creators league starting it, like woolie. i always start a league on day 2 anyway so by then ill know about the overlap situation

[karmic gust]

if it double hits its 660% DE, that is decent for skill thatcan actually clear well right

[hexed mountain]

already better than frostblades

[hoary scarab]

you gotta position properly and all that, doesnt seem that worth it for single target

and if you going 2h mace, might aswell have a bossing skill too

[fossil mural]

Ggg should make force wall work like an actual wall

[hexed mountain]

could just glacial hammer single target

and bonk

[tawdry olive]

yea, more if you power charge, it does look decent enough given the giga clear

[onyx adder]

Its also faster than pretty much every slam yeah

Its solid enough for clear, bearing in mind that it might be a bit anaemic at max distance

[hoary scarab]

its definitly a great clear skill

[onyx adder]

Where if its only on 220de it wont kill rares early at the edge

And might not even kill tanky blues in one hit

[fossil mural]

And you dont need to scale area for it to clear, unlike most other slams

[onyx adder]

Early league

So i mean just because its got good paper single target and good coverage doesnt mean its gonna automatically be good, nobody uses ice crash right

[hoary scarab]

holy sweep however still looks incredibly solid imo

[onyx adder]

Because the bit that does damage and the bit that does coverage are not the same

[tawdry olive]

new skills always be gamba

[onyx adder]

Mostly be gamba

[fossil mural]

Wormblaster yet lives

[onyx adder]

Sometimes theyre pbod and u look at the skill and go which intern balanced this

[stoic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/gamblecore-stickman-casino-gamble-gif-7118676210396292522

[blissful zodiac]

so what is mamba dead now

[hoary scarab]

even without worms its more DE on single target than holy hammers

[hexed mountain]

only hit version

[leaden quiver]

barely tapped

[stoic horizon]

hit based yes

[leaden quiver]

hit is gone

[fossil mural]

Bro you are like

[stoic horizon]

poison basically untouched

[blissful zodiac]

so back to ambidexterity

[fossil mural]

Wrong @

[stoic horizon]

maybe a bit slower now

[fossil mural]

Wasnt sting used

On mamba

[spice pecan]

yes

my mamba char still has one

[fossil mural]

Thats technically a nerf

[hoary scarab]

bug abusing smh

[fossil mural]

Clever use of ingame mechanics

[lucid gale]

It's a fun exercise even if you know absolutely nothing about the quantities involved, just ballpark them.
Guess wildly at say 10 quads per player, average item dimension of four squares, 500k players, 256 bytes per item, 30 leagues worth of tabs?
That's a bit over five terabytes. (numbers completely made up)

[leaden quiver]

thats why u leaguestart domblow

[stoic horizon]

thats almost as big as the average homework folder

[ionic folio]

Why allbuild using templar

[low lava]

O_o

[stoic horizon]

because you only look at templar builds

[true falcon]

I got about 0.5mb per player, then realized that you obviously can't describe an item with just ID so I was revising lol

[split maple]

nvm wrong channel

[leaden quiver]

thats simple

[lucid gale]

Like how many mods can you have on an item, how many stats can a mod have, how do you represent fractures, imbues, enchants? Don't forget quality, crucible trees, item notes for trade, etc.

[leaden quiver]

just have a library of babel-like creation on your servers. IDs of items just point to entries where those things are the same. Amazing

[lucid gale]

Do you assume item size is constant or variable? Can you compress individual ones? Does that help? etc.

[hoary scarab]

how many mods does it take to replace a lightbulb?

[leaden quiver]

https://libraryofbabel.info/book.cgi

easy

[lucid gale]

And depending on database system, how does updates work? Do they mutate things in place or is it more copy-on-write, leaving fragmented pages?

[leaden quiver]

infinite storage hwen you think of it

[final patrol]

You definitely can.

The item ID is a component of the process and seed by which the item is generated in that case.

[leaden quiver]

but then you'd have to regenerate the item whenever its needed

[true falcon]

I need my laptop to type faster

[final patrol]

Or a database with every item, and a lookup table for them..

Still smaller than storing every item on a per account basis.

[fossil mural]

But items have rolls?

[leaden quiver]

zao youre actually baiting me

please tell me how it works now

im interested

[lucid gale]

The fun thing about representing things with a single seed is that you could only store things that are sourced from that seed; or you'd need a seed that holds at least as much information as the actual item itself, or subprocesses for the mutations.

And a method of finding such a magical seed from a finished item.

[spice pecan]

so what you're saying is i need to make way more ancient fruit seeds on my stardew file

[lucid gale]

You could also envision storing a log of crafting/generation steps taken to produce an item, but that means that alt-spamming would bloat the record.

[leaden quiver]

are you just sharding your database?

and compressing text:0

what are the techniques

what are you using zao

[onyx adder]

U should consider mapping every stash to a 4 digit seed

[leaden quiver]

what database does triple g even use

[onyx adder]

And then letting players divine the seed to pick a random stash

New league idea 10/10 glowy brain shit

[wheat sinew]

eww

[lucid gale]

Actual business secrets.

[final patrol]

And the ID has the seed for those rolls as a component. A simple 16 bit id could be divided into an 8 bit lookup and an 8bit seed, and you get millions of variations of millions of items. Or even bump it up to bytes, and you get so many I don't even want to ballpark the math for it.

[leaden quiver]

i wont tell

[lucid gale]

Deduplication is a fun can of worms too, as you then you also need fairly consistent ref counting and global access to that store.

[livid quarry]

i understand

[final patrol]

Didn't even realize you were a programmer at GGG.

And that's very true... I actually have no idea how you guys do it, I was just proposing an option. As a lot of people tend to get the idea that there's only one way to do something correctly. When really TIMTODI.

I can't spell.

Sorry.

There is more than one way to do it.

[stoic horizon]

attack instead then

[hoary scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-jump-attack-gif-24628203

[stoic horizon]

holy is that the director of iron lung?

[whole bluff]

There are several ways to make a ventilation duct, and infinite ways to write an algorithm

[low lava]

slide's you a hundred

[limpid prairie]

Can you autoexet generals cry?

[whole bluff]

We won't tell! 😶

[stoic horizon]

not just can, you should

[hoary scarab]

i wil

[spice pecan]

yes

[whole bluff]

Me too

[limpid prairie]

nice so in theory we could just be doing something else while we General Cry

[lucid gale]

I had some fun problems back when I was data mining with historical game files.

How do you make 15 terabytes of PoE1 accessible in any useful way?

[stoic horizon]

just make people download 15 terabyte zip bombs

[hoary scarab]

delete every second bit and let AI fill in the rest

[hardy heron]

Mail hard drives to them

[final patrol]

Enterprise solutions.

[whole bluff]

Download more storage

[lucid gale]

Naively stored, just the file manifest for a modern release were a good 200 megs of NDJSON. Most software bloats that up to around a gig of RAM on load.

[final patrol]

Ooooof.

[lucid gale]

I stored all my files in a postgres database and separate entries mapping each deduplicated file to a release and path.

[fossil mural]

No, there is only one way - the way grok tells you to

[whole bluff]

I grok not ask grok

[low lava]

So i am watching the interview and they are talking about you can only have 1 imbued active skil.

But that made me think.
But could you not hold a one handed weapon, have a active skill there that is imbued. And then 2 supports.

Have a squire. Put in a active gem there which is imbued too. ?
Have 2 attack skills active. That benefit from just the supports in the shield.

While the shield, shares the supports with the one-handed weapon, which can also have sockected gems are supportbed by X

[lucid gale]

Selecting a subset of files across releases took a good 35 minutes on the harddrives I had the database on, as even just the path table didn't fit into RAM.

If I were to add indices to it, they in turn would cost gigabytes and gigabytes.

[fossil mural]

Doesnt squire specify socketed, and imbued isnt socketed

[hoary scarab]

squire is only supports

[lucid gale]

All in all, I think the deduplicated data was around 500 gigs when I stopped a bunch of leagues ago.

And now with PoE2 existing, that'd be a big additional chunk.

[low lava]

Ah okay, i have never tried slotting in anything other then supports myself. Just an idea that popped up in my head 😂

[hoary scarab]

[fossil mural]

Yea I doubt imbued counts as a socketed support

[low lava]

They said in the interview it does

[fossil mural]

Its linked, not socketed

[low lava]

which is why they limited it to 1 imbued

[fossil mural]

Just like supports as affixes

Arent socketed

[lucid gale]

I sometimes want to play around more with that dataset, but I find it hard to motivate as it can't be used for anything.

[low lava]

yeah. But how doesnt the connection work between the squire and the main hand ?

there must be some kind of connection ?

[normal iron]

account merge happened or not yet?

[whole bluff]

When's jungroan's interview?

[spice pecan]

march 4

[whole bluff]

Meh if true

[hoary scarab]

march for whom

[ember torrent]

should i start guardian minionz orrr miner orrr some else

tell meeeeeeeeeeee

[hoary scarab]

pbrand ignite elementalist

[spice pecan]

is regular pbrand actually playable now

[lucid gale]

League ended <t:1772485200:R> and merge began then.

[spice pecan]

the aoe on it looks kinda good ngl

[final patrol]

Toxic Rain Pathfinder 🧌

[ember torrent]

hmmmmmmge

[hoary scarab]

it looks like an ignite powerhouse

[normal iron]

Thanks, appreciated

[ember torrent]

i always wanted to brand shi

but also totems seem sexxxy

[arctic tundra]

brands and totems are both great and have especially comfy campaigns/early mapping

[modern zinc]

I want to play my Death's Oath build

league when

[split maple]

whats the total nerf on pbod like actually, like 50% less dmg napkin math? + loss of qol due to activate frequency so prolly forced into dual wands for cast speed

[hoary scarab]

honestly fulcrum pbrand elementalist with self ignite prolif sounds like a solid zoom build

[livid quarry]

whats strong that hasnt been nerfed

[ember torrent]

deez

[arctic tundra]

kf totems

[livid quarry]

oh kf

[split maple]

strstack

[arctic tundra]

thats probably gonna be the super popular build this league

[final patrol]

50% flat.

[arctic tundra]

especially since devs said they "probably forgot to nerf this skill" or whatever it was

[livid quarry]

should i learn to craft wands

[arctic tundra]

yes

[final patrol]

Learn to craft.

[ember torrent]

what melee builds still poppin off

[final patrol]

It's good money.

[low lava]

Damn Kongor is out touching grass and streaming it 😂

[livid quarry]

actually feels better to go into this leag with intention of crafting

than playing a build

[final patrol]

I wish I had grass nearby to touch.

[hoary scarab]

static strike of gathering

[ember torrent]

[fossil mural]

Cope

Seeth

And mald

[hoary scarab]

its looks incredible

insane clear potential and potentially like 1356% DE single target

im fully expecting a nerf before release

[wanton haven]

Man. Getting damage from the passivetree early on scion is actually so tilting :D. I might need to plan for a 20 point respec for mapping just to not suffer with 24% inc damage only till Dominus.

[tight plinth]

starting as scion is a bold choice

[haughty bloom]

scion is the best starting location for me but I like phys damage idk

[spice pecan]

phys dot scion is good

it was what people played before elementalist became broken

[tight plinth]

who needs an ascendancy before 50+ anyway

[fossil mural]

Or it has no double hit, stacks dont refresh and it looks ugly

[haughty bloom]

phys dot scion is the comfiest starter Ive ever played

[spice pecan]

i wish there was a guide out there for phys dot scion tbh

like no one has actually made a video or guide or pob or anything

[haughty bloom]

scion one shots everything in campaign with zero gear once reap drops in act 3

[hoary scarab]

who cares about stacks not refreshing, you scale attack speed anyways. Also if its not double hit you can make it double hit

[spice pecan]

you just have to look at 8 different pobs on ninja and hope that one works

it's kind of frustrating

wheree the hell did you find this

[hoary scarab]

cunninghams law

kek

[fossil mural]

Okay yea it should double hit nvm, it doesnt spawn beam on hit but rather on attacking. And even if you stack attack speed thats only reliable for single target

[dark grove]

First league where i will need to do my own tree even if skill is unoriginal. KF reliq just need to figure defences before CI

[fossil mural]

Ancient scrolls

[spice pecan]

bro

[wanton haven]

Im going for a SSF pyroclast start with the new accendancy. +2 aura gem lvl, +2 proj, astral projector from accendancy is a really nice statline @tight plinth

[onyx adder]

Are there any skills at all with a stacking duration buff where u get a stack and it refreshes every stack

[spice pecan]

this is fukn sicc

[onyx adder]

I cant find any

Dont say reave its got stages

Not stacks

[zealous mantle]

Anyone think running rallying cry is worth it for holy strike

[hoary scarab]

its basically wild strike lightning version, scales the same way but better. No reason not to go attack speed

[zealous mantle]

Warcries seem like a lot of investment for not too much return from what I’m seeing

[lime tartan]

does anyone here have the timekeeper's map device? How has it affected the way you play?

[wanton haven]

Static stricks chain lightning counts as melee hits btw for effects like melee splash. Really nice.

[stoic horizon]

they seemed to use it on reveal stream

[fossil mural]

Tbh it should also be considered a buff, so warp rune works

[onyx adder]

Yea for sure im just saying i rly dont think its gonna refresh stacks

[hardy heron]

Frenzy ig, but that's not really what you meant

[zealous mantle]

I mean yeah but I’m thinking about like

[final patrol]

I tend to use the kill count one, because I like watching number go up, not time be wasted. But the time keepers is in my experience a really good one for making sure you focus in. You don't just see it in your hideout, there's an interface in map as well.

[zealous mantle]

Passive tree investment wise it seems pretty hefty on it

[final patrol]

It's also significantly smaller than the kill counter ones.

[hoary scarab]

yxeah definitly, but it doesnt need to

[zealous mantle]

Needing warcry speed and a decent amount of duration

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/bigger-number-go-up-balatro-stupendium-jimbo-gif-12250160338395191849

[onyx adder]

Yea nah charges are charges they have their own behaviour

[zealous mantle]

• no good guarantee of warcry power

[stoic horizon]

you literally only do enough to keep the buff up, you dont care about exert

[lime tartan]

cool, thanks for sharing your experience

[gleaming linden]

wait so what are passage jewels? intuitive leap, from nothing, and thread of hope?

[hoary scarab]

4 sec base duration and 12 max stacks means you only need to attack 3 times per second, wich is easily done

[gleaming linden]

what am i forgetting

[onyx adder]

Im more talking about BV, shattering steel of ammunition, stuff like that

[zealous mantle]

Unless you go say red blade banner but then you’re sfuvk with a one handed

[onyx adder]

Which all have individual stacks

[split maple]

impossible escape prolly a few more

now have passage written on them

[fossil mural]

Rite of passage

[gleaming linden]

ok they added a tag

[zealous mantle]

I think if warcry power was a non issue it’d one hundred percent be worth running rallying

[fossil mural]

Pog

[split maple]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Jewel#Passage_Jewels

[finite quail]

passage jewels are those that have radii and let you spec passives in that radius without being connected to your main tree

[spice pecan]

wait why does this phys dot scion guide buy herald of ash

that skill literally does not work with dots

[onyx adder]

If it doesnt then clearing will suck fat nuts

[finite quail]

because it's cool

[onyx adder]

U will hit 1 pack and kill it

And then two seconds later hit 1 pack and kill it

[hoary scarab]

doubt it tbh, it has so much damage scaling that you will clear even with little stacks

[spice pecan]

and why are we stacking fire resistance

[fossil mural]

Or you wont kill it because you have no chains

[spice pecan]

without RF

[hexed mountain]

i'm starting to question the +2 proj node on scion for pyroclast

[fossil mural]

[gleaming linden]

ya ik but i didnt know they already updated the wiki

[zealous mantle]

I mean yeah but you’d still need things like warcry speed and call to arms to make it not feel dogshit and you still gotta worry about power right? Rallying scales it’s buff off power still

[onyx adder]

Ah ha, self regulating clear speed

Genius

[hexed mountain]

we get a lot of projs from pyro... might not be that big of an increase

[soft perch]

Probably doesn’t work with multistrike

[onyx adder]

U need to hit mobs to clear them

[gleaming linden]

thats what i mentioned too

[soft perch]

Also I’m ngl

[gleaming linden]

cause a lot of things that specify per attack dont work with repeats

[onyx adder]

If u dont have stacks this skill is heavy strike

[zealous mantle]

I’d imagine that the holy strikes will be queued up by the weapons

[soft perch]

I don’t think 12 total targets with a melee skill is particularly good clear

[fossil mural]

Heavy strike at mcdonalds

[soft perch]

Like no matter what

[hoary scarab]

just use +1 strike target gloves

[zealous mantle]

Even if they’re not repeated

[soft perch]

Obviously u also have the strike portion

[fossil mural]

It might work with splash

[soft perch]

Don’t think this works either lul

[zealous mantle]

It’d be weird to play otherwise

[soft perch]

Normal static strike doesn’t

[fossil mural]

Sadge

[stoic horizon]

you just need 1 support and 1 warcry cluser for 10 minimum power, it also counts allies so you can add up minions like specters etc to the count

[hexed mountain]

but there's like no other decent weapon node for pyroclast

[fossil mural]

And it says one beam target

[hoary scarab]

no reason it shouldnt, the buff is on hit, the beam is on attack

[soft perch]

Most buff on hit stuff is limited to one per attack

[karmic gust]

its funny that such a simple skill like that reworked static strike has so many things that noone knows how they work :d

[soft perch]

Unless per enemy hit is stated

[onyx adder]

Yea

[hoary scarab]

ah sure but that wasnt my point

[onyx adder]

Like its possible that this dude is right and the skill is sick

[zealous mantle]

Which support and which cluster? I don’t think I saw a minimum power notable unless it’s a mastery

[gleaming linden]

cause the wording is limited and can apply to multiple things

and we dont know what exactly it means just yet

[soft perch]

Cuz every fucking strike has different wording

I looked at them yesterday

[gleaming linden]

cause they are ancient

[hoary scarab]

no u

[soft perch]

I’d expect buffs to work more like charges and flicker and frenzy both don’t scale with target count

[stoic horizon]

mastery yes, and i mean basically any cluster that wont deter your path too much, probably the cdr one near marauder, and there is a support that increases warcry speed a lot

[onyx adder]

At least u all have convinced me that it will do very competitive dps if i turret

[soft perch]

Reave also has very specific wording

[onyx adder]

However ive alrdy got one of those strikes

[zealous mantle]

Hhmmmmge

[onyx adder]

And i dont wanna play boneshatter again

[soft perch]

Heavy strike pog

[gleaming linden]

im 26, just sent in my unc status request. should get my card soon

[split maple]

does cryogenesis enable any funny biz with trauma

[gleaming linden]

reave slaps so hard

[zealous mantle]

So at base minimum 10 power and say 5-10 minions give or take you’ve got what

24% extra right?

[karmic gust]

probably not because replacing phys directly with other flat will almost always be bad right

[zealous mantle]

I’d say that’s pretty nice but kinda sucks since it’s added

[onyx adder]

I would usually rather have physical damage on any setup that wants boneshatter plus a weapon that can use boneshatter

[karmic gust]

it saves you some effort with conversrion but otherwise pure downside

[gleaming linden]

i just wish reave did more dmg

[onyx adder]

Like what does it open up

[zealous mantle]

I’m hopium that MS would work with HS

[fossil mural]

Cleave

[gleaming linden]

ironically worse

[zealous mantle]

I cant imagine a world where it wouldn’t

[fossil mural]

I wish it were better

I like skills like that

[gleaming linden]

bro cleave is trash for so many reasons

[fossil mural]

Its like cleaning your windows

[karmic gust]

time to rework cleave to holy cleave

[fossil mural]

You wipe

[gleaming linden]

<100% base attack speed, low aoe with nerfed weapon range affects

[fossil mural]

Dual strike of holyness

[gleaming linden]

even with saviour cleave is ass

[zealous mantle]

Would unironically play that if it summoned holy swords on hit

[fossil mural]

Its kinda crazy how none of that shit is buffed

Ngl

[zealous mantle]

Anime as fuck

[gleaming linden]

ya

[tight plinth]

there should be an opposing faction for holy skills

[onyx adder]

Cleave was fun for about 5 minutes when it had the mini hh

[gleaming linden]

thats what im thinking too

[onyx adder]

Which league was that

Sentinel?

[stoic horizon]

half the damage effectiveness, excommunicates mobs on hit

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[hoary scarab]

unholy skills next

[zealous mantle]

Pog

[fossil mural]

Make excommunicate an actual debuff

[zealous mantle]

Cold/chaos melee skills

I would love that actually

[fossil mural]

I want to be able to convert elemental damage to phys

[wanton haven]

Man imagine getting a good base phys spell that starts with 60% chaos conversion

[onyx adder]

What would u use that for tho

[fossil mural]

Id rather it didnt

[fossil mural]

Expedition dots

[gleaming linden]

ive wanted this for a while

[onyx adder]

Lul

[fossil mural]

Not conversion obv

But taken as

Impales as well

And bleed

[gleaming linden]

imagine something that converted all phys as extra ele to more phys

[onyx adder]

U can take elemental damage as phys if u want

Its usually a bad idea for ur life total

[fossil mural]

I want it for enemies

[hoary scarab]

i can take ele dmg as chaos and excommunicate with static strike

[onyx adder]

That would be interesting

[wanton haven]

Getting a unique that enables lightning damage melee hits to apply bleed would be metal as helk

[fossil mural]

Actually wasnt there a build where taking ele as phys was good

[ionic tide]

So phys converted to ele damage converted back to phys?

[onyx adder]

Doesnt work, enemy is still dealing elemental damage u just take it as chaos

So excommunicate does nothing

[hoary scarab]

ah sad

[fossil mural]

Excommunicate fucking sucks

Ngl

This is one of the reasons

[spice pecan]

who designed excommunicate

[wanton haven]

What happend to poe mobile btw?

[fossil mural]

It sounds like a player debuff that was made an enemy debuff with no further consideration

[fossil mural]

Benched for the time being

[hardy heron]

John Excommunicate himself, of course

[hoary scarab]

its in soonTM space

[ocean folio]

poe2 happened ig. no time to work on it

[paper root]

Excommunicate should of been changed

[soft perch]

I really don’t think excommunicate is that bad

[spice pecan]

the only john i like is John Darksouls

[hoary scarab]

damn he really did that to himself

[fossil mural]

Its not that bad obv, like you can run chaos extra maps and shi

[soft perch]

It’s a decent utility link to put on move skills

What’s the problem

[fossil mural]

But thats it?

Tbh

[paper root]

But its just something there; prob won't notice it unless you fight chaos dmg heavy mob that does direct damage

[soft perch]

Well idk why it exists

[fossil mural]

With the suppport it gives extra right

[soft perch]

But I don’t think it’s useless

[crisp obsidian]

Links in my movement skill??? What is this, poe1??

[fossil mural]

So you can use it as main link

And be

Ci

But life

Sorta

[soft perch]

Why would u ever do that

[fossil mural]

It should work for poison too right

[soft perch]

That’s just too conditional and a bad idea

If you do that you deserve the suffering lul

[potent bramble]

Surely it's better to just be poison immune tho

[zealous pebble]

Rsthlytha lol only mob I can think of

[hoary scarab]

the gem is also like 34% phys as extra

[onyx adder]

I can put chance to flee in my moveskill and it'll probably save me about as often as excommunicate ngl

[fossil mural]

But then not life

[scarlet jacinth]

Excommunicate: % Reduced dmg dealt

This would keep it conditional but atleast somewhat useful

[potent bramble]

I mean, there's othe ways to be poison immune... probably

[onyx adder]

Thats debilitate

[fossil mural]

Yea I think it can a use case where you want to run chaos maps or smth as a phys skill

[ocean folio]

or sap

[onyx adder]

Hope thats not too confusing

Omegalul

[soft perch]

I mean if it’s a worrying issue ur gonna die to random damage

Before u hit mobs

[onyx adder]

Some ggg dev with the thesaurus looking up synonyms for everything

[gleaming linden]

added as*

[paper root]

Mostly waiting for exceptional gem datamine now on launch day

[soft perch]

I feel like wording is getting a bit weird and inconsistent in poe1

There’s a lot of things I find confusing in this patch especially

[paper root]

There gotta be something juicy in there for minions

[fossil mural]

And poe2 gets ai written tooltips

[soft perch]

And unclear

[stoic horizon]

yeah last hour before launch will be juicy

[gleaming linden]

phys as extra ele stacking is still very good damage scaling for big phys weapons, way better than impale cause of how many scaling options u have

[soft perch]

I think viper would hit you with a brick for this

[gleaming linden]

it'd be nice to put that scaling back to phys somehow, so it can actually compete

[potent bramble]

Don't forget waiting (im)patiently for PoB to push the updates out lol

[spice pecan]

guys, do i pay for a month of geoguessr to get me through these 4 days of no poe

[fossil mural]

I saw at least 3 tooltips that were written like it was early ai making mistakes

[paper root]

Wait in queue, log in, get instantly dc ion lioneyes watch, sit in queue again

[spice pecan]

i'm so rusty

[potent bramble]

Or go play Guess The Game

[fossil mural]

Just wing it

[onyx adder]

Just make toad pobs for four days whats the problem

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[sour wadi]

T O A D

[soft perch]

Do u want ele hit pobs for 4 days

[potent bramble]

The last time I wing'd something it turned out to be a thing I most decidedly should not have wung

[fossil mural]

Is there any real usecase for toads doe

[soft perch]

What about staff gen cry pobs

[onyx adder]

💀

[onyx adder]

Its not ele hit i guess

[fossil mural]

Like its a funny meme skill

That about it

I need to pob my discharge

I have phys dot and ele hit

But also if resonance shrine is like mirror

Ill just wait for someone to pob it

[paper root]

Do wonder if the global drop pool for exceptionals got original ones shoved in there making empower more rare

[trim sleet]

any new teasers?

[fossil mural]

#poe1-news

[true falcon]

After napkin mathing the DB stuff still, I've decided that the best way to handle items is to delete standard

[paper root]

What's standard

[fossil mural]

All timeless drop from legion right

[zealous pebble]

Or Divi cards

[true falcon]

That place you logged in to to set up your stash tabs 10 years ago because you were tired of them resetting every league

[paper root]

I still set mine up every league

...

Too lazy

[brazen vector]

people did that?

[stark badger]

legendary standard avoider, respect the hustle

[true falcon]

I did for HCSSF for gauntlet once

I keep forgetting to for the other leagues

[zealous pebble]

Yes because it's annoying to do every league

[wanton haven]

My standard tab scares me.

[paper root]

I should do it though

You can hide all remove tabs I believe

[true falcon]

I still don't understand it because I log into standard and my tabs look "fine" but if I log into SCSSF, they're 1,2,3,4,5...

[teal hare]

new league starts on 6th?

[zealous pebble]

Yep that way I can ignore them

[stone robin]

So how exactly do you get transfigured gems now as of 3.28?
The way i understood it was if i level with holy relic and i use that in the lab for transfigured, i am guaranteed to get the holy relic one, right? Or did i missunderstand the change?

[teal hare]

cool

just something new to play in the weekend

[gentle chasm]

nothing has changed in their acquisition

that ONE specific craft just got buffed

[stone robin]

so its still random?

[gentle chasm]

which starts appearing from merc lab

[paper root]

@stone robin not exactly, there is a rare option that got changed; but the usual is random still

[brazen vector]

let me just quickly find my keepers tabs

[paper root]

Idols

[tight plinth]

sell 1c, ewe

[paper root]

Tab

[zealous pebble]

The reveal showed then getting the actual transfigured gem though, unless that was just luck

[stone robin]

ah got it ._. whelp that might change my league starter then 😄

[paper root]

Unless your SSF, its not really a issue

[fossil mural]

There is 2 crafts - one is random trans of colour (unchanged) and random trans version (which was buffed to not be random).

[paper root]

Usually by maps you can swap over easily

Unless you playing some super meta gem

[ember torrent]

finna DOM BLOW GUARD THIS LEEG

[tight plinth]

not luck, just run it multiple times and then start recording when you get it

[fossil mural]

Yea early trans gems in trade are free

[zealous pebble]

You're gonna do what to the guardian?

[teal hare]

so cool that it stsrts at the weekend

[fossil mural]

It always does?

[lilac parcel]

do i need to find her first in campaign ? i cant travel there ?

[teal hare]

yeah but i didnt play before 😄

[lilac parcel]

standard

[gentle chasm]

its probably not enabled yet

[tight plinth]

currently unavailable

[ember torrent]

[fossil mural]

Closed for contruction

They are cutting tree branches

[paper root]

Dunno if im doing Keepers with mirage

[lucid gale]

https://youtu.be/zFzHf3etCTA?t=2234&si=iJfixKkvDydfDzHV

[paper root]

Breach with mirage, jeeeeeez i need foulborn unique or I just buy it...

[fossil mural]

I mean, you can force unstable

So whatever

[paper root]

Because pathing to blood magic is scary

[lucid gale]

When doing the craft that transfigures a specific gem and it has alternatives, you get to pick.

[teal hare]

they say "significant endgame changes"

[gentle chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-then-gif-26630246

[teal hare]

they say "significant endgame changes"
is this good or bad?

[lucid gale]

The video demonstrates how Penance Brand lets you pick either transfigured variant.

[tight plinth]

zao, are walls from hive considered enemies? for minion targetting puposes?

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[toxic pier]

Is there any good mana stacker RF for League start

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/blark-and-son-he-is-in-the-walls-walls-gun-screaming-gif-10485824307355622292

[fossil mural]

Pohx did it for private league

You can check the video

See if its good or not

[toxic pier]

Oh ty

[paper root]

As long there is mobs around, minions should hit the walls

[potent bramble]

Yo, did any of you see the video that NeverSink posted like 12 hours ago? Because hoLEE that's an exciting new feature

[true falcon]

Oooo, you can convert all the archmage/coldmage damage to fire now too

[lilac parcel]

?

[true falcon]

Or is it just lightning or cold I forget

[fossil mural]

Wdym

[fossil mural]

Yea its cold or light

[true falcon]

Ahh nvm

[brazen vector]

omg I know how to fix the idols stuff

Enable them in standard!

[potent bramble]

TL;DR they're adding the ability to mix strictness easier so you can have like low strictness currency and high strictness bases or w/e https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSciXUY2w_c

[tight plinth]

technically you still can

[potent bramble]

Won't be a huge change for people who use ultra-custom filters, but it'll be really nice for anyone who's working off the base template with some light tweaks

[brazen vector]

my standard dudes have been farming a little

[tight plinth]

lightning might be a little more tedious

[paper root]

Send boat before league start

For science

[brazen vector]

yea let me grab more dust

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/breakingbad-science-yeah-science-gif-5954775

[lilac parcel]

how much ore can the workers smelt a day in 24 hours?

[brazen vector]

I am sure I have dust worthy shit on standard

[paper root]

Rip legacy uniques

Shove them into the oven

[livid quarry]

@split maple did u get the 50m loot

[candid moon]

Theyre increasing smelting rates so unknown unless theyve mentioned specifics

[stoic horizon]

dust all your mbs

[lilac parcel]

you sure ?

[tight plinth]

not much but if youre gonna farm ores for constant shipping youre gonna use the scarab that turn ores into bars anyway

[candid moon]

Couldve sworn it was mentioned somewhere

[past mantle]

They did.

[tight plinth]

yeah they are

[livid quarry]

nice 3 shards

[lilac parcel]

this is 50 mil

[tight plinth]

i dont remember if they said how much tho

[past mantle]

They said they at least doubled speed and increased costs.

[split maple]

the last 50miler of league 😄

[paper root]

This is the league my mappers give me a mirrior

[lilac parcel]

i have send yesterday 1 shard 14 divs

[livid quarry]

they cost 25% more gold to run now

[split maple]

now convicted to rot in standard

[candid moon]

Costs being proportional, meaning effectively same cost per bar

[tight plinth]

woah i didnt know this

[livid quarry]

gaming in standard?

[stoic horizon]

no mb logout

[brazen vector]

they stay in their remove only tabs >_<

[dark grove]

It said doubling effectivenes i think

[candid moon]

My memory tells me that it's not true, but I have not been known for having a good memory

[brazen vector]

[stoic horizon]

what are you summoning?

[brazen vector]

3.23

[stoic horizon]

bringing the plague down on us gotcha

[brazen vector]

affliction has been the last time I felt pure happiness

[gleaming linden]

nah settlers > affliction

build diversity + currency is better than just currency

[true falcon]

Phrecia 3.23 when

[brazen vector]

fuck settlers holy shit 3 years long league

[stark badger]

affliction abyss rare explosion was such a stupid thing

[gleaming linden]

still the best league ever

[glacial prism]

i got way richer in settlers but that's just because i knew the game

[stoic horizon]

if you cut off the extended time settlers was fire

[true falcon]

Settlers was great, until it was a year long

[gentle chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-he-gif-3749724709641675358

[gleaming linden]

settlers lasting that long doesn't make the league bad

[brazen vector]

settlers was cool ONLY becasue we got phrecia lmao

[gleaming linden]

phrecia is hot ass

idc

[scarlet jacinth]

I still want private league phrecia

[true falcon]

Settlers was great because the list of buffed skills was like a novel long

[scarlet jacinth]

Phrecia was great

[brazen vector]

Id never play the real league again

[gleaming linden]

nah phrecia is dogwater but you can have your own opinion

[scarlet jacinth]

Let us hide away with our idols and fishing rods!

[brazen vector]

thank you for allowing me to have my own opinion

[stark badger]

settlers was great because I got rich by getting a hinekora's lock from like the second map ran by kingsmarch atlas runners

[gleaming linden]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-pool-gif-9491674

[brazen vector]

also wasnt settlers build diversity just 95% lightning strike on any ascendancy

[gleaming linden]

i got 2 locks in 1 t17 map farming titanic giant exiles

[scarlet jacinth]

I liked idols, and the ascendancy differences

[candid moon]

Settlers was aight imo, nothing special. Novelty wore off real fast. Introduced recomb which was an L

[brazen vector]

recomb was from sentinels

[stoic horizon]

it didnt, it readded them

[candid moon]

Shouldve stayed there

[gleaming linden]

settlers recomb was sick bro

[brazen vector]

Id always pick something like harbinger over elementalist

[gleaming linden]

recomb nerfs after settlers made it shit again

[candid moon]

It's worse than spamming alts

[fossil mural]

No?

It was part of alts

[gleaming linden]

bro you musta just did it wrong

[scarlet jacinth]

I wanted to play harbi but when i got to it, it was the last week. Still regret it.

[crisp obsidian]

new recomb is absolute garbo and the fact it's behind k*ngsmarch makes it very cringe

[true falcon]

Recomb is why I spam alts

[gleaming linden]

i was printing squire weapons in settlers

[crisp obsidian]

I'll hate GGG forever for doing that

[gleaming linden]

almost every craft was profit

[candid moon]

It being powerful doesnt make it good

[stoic horizon]

why compare bananas to potatoes?

[fossil mural]

It was actually fun doe

Minmaxing it

[gleaming linden]

it was expensive to do

[fossil mural]

Now recomb is super straightforward

And lame

[candid moon]

Idk. I didn't enjoy making the 5-6 mod items

[fossil mural]

And eats gold like no tomorrow

[gleaming linden]

yeah its too expensive now, and too rng

[candid moon]

Sure it was powerful and profitable, but having to make/buy a bajillion blue bases was meh

[crisp obsidian]

recomb hasn't been good or fun since sentinels

[gleaming linden]

you didnt have to do that but ok

[fossil mural]

Idk I didnt okay sentinels

Settlers recomb felt good

[spice pecan]

man, my ethernet device really just disappeared huh

[fossil mural]

Now I refuse to touch it

[candid moon]

You had to for some things, and if you were making those items in any other way you were wasting money

[gleaming linden]

bro sentinel recomb was absolutely broken

[spice pecan]

guess im a wifi gamer now

[gleaming linden]

insane shit

[crisp obsidian]

yes

[fossil mural]

Its all those pesky gnomes cock-thiefs

[tight plinth]

[crisp obsidian]

which one

[candid moon]

Not just wasting a few divs, but making 200-300d normally costing items for like 40d

[spice pecan]

literally the ethernet device in device manager/network devices

it's just straight gone

[gleaming linden]

because people are too lazy to learn how to make them

thats why crafting is so profitable

[spice pecan]

tried every single fix i can find on the internet and no luck

[whole bluff]

heisting shaper?

[fossil mural]

You dont need to anymore, since they added the poe2 recomb

[candid moon]

Thats not the issue. I'm talking about raw currency costs

[crisp obsidian]

what

[true falcon]

Any build tips for sleeping for 72hrs straight?

[scarlet jacinth]

Heist.. fragments? Huh!

[spice pecan]

nothing without drugs

[candid moon]

They hit it that hard? Good to hear

[fossil mural]

You can get a severe concussion and sleep for more than 3 days

[scarlet jacinth]

Either drugs or large dosses of caffeine

[spice pecan]

it's giga gone from here and device manager lol

[whole bluff]

did your network card die?

[low lava]

Hire someone to knock you out, everytime you attempt to wake up

[spice pecan]

i don't use a network card

[fossil mural]

No I mean you can isolate mods using poe2 recomb, instead of alt spamming

[gleaming linden]

stay up for a few days then down a double dose of melatonin

[scarlet jacinth]

Hippity hoppity your device is now my property!

[crisp obsidian]

right-click network & internet at the task bar and go to advanced network settings and check if it's disabled ((this is how it's done in win11 atleast))

[gleaming linden]

can prolly get 24

[whole bluff]

doesnt every interface have like a NIC?

[candid moon]

Oh, well ig I will need to check how it works, havent interacted with it with settlers and only played the current league for like 5 days

[gleaming linden]

pob update when

[candid moon]

Made my mirror and dipped because I didnt feel like it, wasnt a fan of breach

[fossil mural]

Its the better way for stuff like levels for example, or high phys

Since alt chance is so low

Or just script like a normal person

[gleaming linden]

the defend breach being 80% of maps really felt like shit

i quit at lv 90 tbh

[atomic crane]

did they forget to show the challenges mtx this time?

[fossil mural]

There will never be a worse mechanic than breach walls

[atomic crane]

or there aren't any

[maiden spear]

once again asking, what minion is best for scaling the highest single physical damage hit possible?

[candid moon]

The mechanic itself felt like it was begging you to play KB