1┃general

[stoic horizon]

its trans shock nova

[icy swan]

nice

[ocean nest]

Shock Nova of Precession

[noble sleet]

Ohh I remember him saying it CAN overlap 6 times lol

[lucid gale]

Hard to tell, mostly happy when I find the root cause of some really gnarly bugs or can contribute something that helps others.

[hexed mountain]

"can"

[tight plinth]

Dude you summoned him

[stoic horizon]

i think they market a 6x overlap point

[icy swan]

yes

[noble sleet]

Does no one know if that skill will actually be good? It looks fun.. more fun than rolling magma lmao

[hexed mountain]

6 overlap would make it a good skill

4 overlap would be enough imo

[icy swan]

as good as kinetic rain ? xD

[hexed mountain]

wouldnt*

[stoic horizon]

but trying to hit with that exact spot wouldn't be fun

[hexed mountain]

not sure about clear

[noble sleet]

Ohh dude what if I had echo shrine with that skill? Lmao. Holy overlaps

[undone gazelle]

Goratha baiting new manaman skill

[onyx adder]

idk why this skill has caused so much confusion in terms of how it might overlap

glacial cascade is right there

[ocean nest]

Shock Nova of Procession could be good on mines if every mine triggers the repeats

[hexed mountain]

new manaman skill's main use is using lightpoacher , prove me wrong

[noble sleet]

Why did kinetic rain get nerfed man

[stoic horizon]

just adds 1 circle further away, each circle is already a repeat

[stoic horizon]

because we have seen pre balance pass version

[stoic horizon]

the only reason mines dont get repeats usually is because the gems say so, if fatal flourish works on blade traps, shock nova should repeat from mines

[surreal musk]

manaman is a hc/ ssf build , no reason to not play eblade over manaman in sctrade

[stoic horizon]

but i dont think its a good mine skill, it looks like it needs precise targeting for optimal single target

[icy swan]

hmm i see this skill might have low range to clear maps fast ?

[ocean nest]

if I read the gem correclty the repeating novas are expanding from the previous repeat and not from where the mine casted it.

[finite quail]

shock spread with fb bereks

or inpulsa

[icy swan]

i see

[ocean nest]

dont know if I'm right on the expansion of the repeats on shock nova of procession thou.

[stoic horizon]

it should just move forward just like you see on the screenshot but from mine instead if you

[finite quail]

watch the content reveal

it shows how the skill looks like when used

[ocean nest]

was just my 2 cents I spent on the gem. I start an completly different build

[noble sleet]

We need some S tier builds to come back, I haven’t seen any

[fossil mural]

Yes but its self cast

They didnt show mines or totems

[dark grove]

Can i Play mirage yet?

I cant wait anymore

[fossil mural]

Ofc

[stoic horizon]

yes login

[tight plinth]

Ok fubgun

[fossil mural]

Into csgo

[split maple]

For once you have a good take

Like I don't see anything New that wasn't already a thing in mercs or keepers

[ocean nest]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fazeclan-csgo-karrigan-faze-KDZS843hcV01GMRbpe

[fossil mural]

Duscharge trust

[stoic horizon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555708248519344159/943458507846475846/output.gif

[scarlet jacinth]

Kinda unfortunate nothing actually new looks to be added. I'll just end up playing the same build cuz why not..

[fossil mural]

With cdr gem

[split maple]

Tbf we also don't know shit about New stuff yet

But still

[fossil mural]

Surely at least some of the gems

Are op

[stoic horizon]

the static strike looks cool

im baiting myself into holy strike

[split maple]

Given how much lab will be needed for gem qual this league maybe I even get emperors then go strstack

[onyx adder]

theres nothing obviously broken but i think theres a lot of solid new setups

[fossil mural]

Phys dot expedition, into ele hit, into discharge

I dont cope

I work

[onyx adder]

static strike could easily be broken

could also easily be dogshit tho

[tight plinth]

Here we go

[onyx adder]

depending on how stacks work exactly

[stoic horizon]

right

if they refresh its op

[onyx adder]

i also think ppl are sleeping on the lycia consuming dark combo to league start with

[fossil mural]

Ggg intentionally didnt specify this

To troll

[onyx adder]

this is a ton of poison damage on skills like cremation and explosive trap

like really stupid numbers

[fossil mural]

Low tol explosive trap pag

[ocean nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118165205025828884/1361286631390187812/ezgif-1ce9898e23d03b.gif

[stoic horizon]

if they don't you gotta attack 3 times a second

[scarlet jacinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153681513163010148/1390599478188183652/ONE_OF_US.gif

[fossil mural]

You can use duration

[spice pecan]

Rip league start for me, my PC is completely dead

GG

[stoic horizon]

true

[scarlet jacinth]

Laptop? Any other device?

[spice pecan]

Only other device is a surface

[noble sleet]

I just like op meta builds as long as it’s fun. Lot of people don’t, especially my friends. I want an S tier build mixed in with the shrine belt and just wanna see how that plays out

[spice pecan]

So nope

[ocean nest]

https://giphy.com/gifs/netflix-tiger-king-joe-exotic-carole-baskin-kC2cRqEt8o41COgjoV

[soft perch]

@onyx adder oh yeah you might know about this

is explosive trap of shrapnel a good skill

like does it clear

[scarlet jacinth]

Minimum settings + sound disabled may function..

[fossil mural]

Go poison binos

[stoic horizon]

is it only broken for me or do all gifs have buncha empty space under them now

[fossil mural]

[ocean nest]

welp, another pcclose to a breakdown I guess

[spice pecan]

Doubt it but maybe

[stoic horizon]

im on mobile rn so im safe

[fossil mural]

Wait is shrapnel

Literally cluster nade

[icy swan]

how is this shield of light compare to eviscirate ?

[hoary scarab]

nice knowing you 🫡

[fossil mural]

Rip pc

[fossil mural]

Complete and utter dogshit

[ocean nest]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hyperxgaming-hyperx-family-gaming-hStvd5LiWCFzYNyxR4

[icy swan]

xD

[fossil mural]

It cant compete with eviscerate

At anything

[icy swan]

sadly

[fossil mural]

Ig it looks cooler

[timid scroll]

do you guys think mirages will be able to copy breach hives?

[fossil mural]

No

Well

You mean hive

[stoic horizon]

copy no, have their own yes

[fossil mural]

Or hive fortress

Basically it cant copy the boss one

Cause its a loading screen

[stoic horizon]

you can force fortress with a scarab and these carry over to mirage

ah wait

no normal fortress is like harvest iirc

the boss one is separate i think

[bold scarab]

Lies ... Embalmer got gutted of the only reason to exist

[fossil mural]

Yea I mean

They are called different things

Actually is boss hive a loading screen?

[stoic horizon]

yes

[unique crown]

anyone out here consecrating their path???

[hexed mountain]

no

[unique crown]

😡

[fossil mural]

Isnt cons path bad compared to enduring or whatever

[hexed mountain]

its nerfed btw

the buff doesnt make up exertion nerfs

[finite quail]

its a minimal buff

[unique crown]

idk last time I played consecrated path my hairline was in better shape

[stoic horizon]

real

[frigid wedge]

so last week?

[unique crown]

💀

[fossil mural]

Never

Bald since born

[unique crown]

trueeeee

[fossil mural]

Man

Imagine the prices

On mirage maps

I hope they are high

[finite quail]

1c

[fossil mural]

It doubles the map bruh

Aint no way

Its cheap

[finite quail]

1c per map means another c in mirage

trolled

[fossil mural]

Nightmare mirage maps will be poggers

I wonder if its possible to force mirage to spawn near boss

Youd probably have to run certain layouts

Like that swamp map

[finite quail]

or just run ritual

[west pasture]

my Faustus shop trades are not showing when checking website - only few items are shown, I search for something new I've added few hours ago and it's not there! 😱
any idea? (yes, the league is set to "Standard" in website search)

[split maple]

toxic sewers

[finite quail]

so it spawns in the boss room

[fossil mural]

Its 4 rituals

[finite quail]

and so does mirage

[fossil mural]

So chance to spawn near boss

And then

Like

1 in 3/4 to spawn mirage

Near the boss ritual

[split maple]

yeah gamba for ritual to spawn close to boss too

its not guaranteed

[icy swan]

this creeping frost of floes is dot spell like ignite and will have 36kk cap ?

[finite quail]

not like you have a better option though

[split maple]

but okay lets say its 1 miraged boss per 10 maps that way

[finite quail]

all dots have the same cap

[fossil mural]

I think grounds dont have a dot cap?

[split maple]

maybe even better

[finite quail]

they do

[fossil mural]

I saw pob calc alch mark

Without dot cap

Maybe I missremember

[split maple]

alch mark is certainly dotcaped

[fossil mural]

[eternal pier]

Can anyone tell me if there will be new Kirac's Vault and challenges cosmetics for Mirage ?

[fossil mural]

Challenge yes

[finite quail]

probably

[fossil mural]

They already confirmed challenges

Kirac no

[blazing nymph]

The challenge set is an armour set we haven't fully seen yet, and ggg like money so there will be a vault pass

[icy swan]

easy or not ? xD

[eternal pier]

thanks a lot

[fossil mural]

Maybe if you have nothing spawn it will choose boss kekl

[split maple]

challenges were getting easier last few leaguesw

extrapolate from that if daring

[fossil mural]

I meant that challenge rewards are a skim set

Nothing else

[fossil mural]

For normies ugh

Even ggg

Were super easy

And quick

[split maple]

ggg was hilarious in keepers

[icy swan]

when i start i was feeling it was hard, but last leage was quite ok

[split maple]

like you do it by default

[lucid gale]

The 40th alliterating one?

née E.G.G.?

[haughty bloom]

how much more time do I have to complete keepers challenges

[fossil mural]

Easy gear goals?

[lucid gale]

Negative hours.

[fossil mural]

Its over

[lucid gale]

End Game Grinds.

[lucid gale]

The league ended ~13h ago.

[noble sleet]

Man this chat has a lot more energy than th one in Poe 2.. and I like poe 2 a lot better but this league really excites me

[icy swan]

u get 100 nice

[fossil mural]

Bruh poe2 doesnt have a new league in 3 days

[split maple]

any chance you can sugggest to someone over coffe that counters should keep going once you hit challenge goal - like pinnacle bosses 232/75

would be fun 😄

[fossil mural]

That would be 9.99$

[noble sleet]

Idk I forgot if it was like this tho when Druid was gonna come out?

[split maple]

only took a few sessions of harbbeyond, like 1% a map

[fossil mural]

Or 5 maps of alva

[frigid wedge]

harby go bye bye

[split maple]

that was the second one yea

but hardly counts when last days of league 😄

[fossil mural]

Always hated it

Looks lame, plays lame, rewards are lame

And beachhead stuff was meme

[blazing nymph]

It was great back in the day

[fossil mural]

Okay grandpa

[blazing nymph]

But it really didn't age well

[frigid wedge]

ill buy supporter packs when they give me the elemancer body armour

back

[blazing nymph]

My laaaaaawn

[frigid wedge]

xD

[lucid gale]

I grabbed the Verdant pack from 3.27 now the other day, the hideout looks neat.

[fossil mural]

Verdant hideout is cool

And the kalguuran skin

I love short capes and hats

😩

[frigid wedge]

which one is that

[lucid gale]

Kind of like the wizard robe and hat in the 3.28 one, but don't care for the hideout.

[fossil mural]

Plant wizard skin

[split maple]

what map-unlock hideout is big enough for that rare mob counter map device from keepers? it barely fits into robber trench -.-

[fossil mural]

Like why is this so bad lmao

[frigid wedge]

the hideout

[lucid gale]

Bunch of islands magically connected, nice lookout spot up high.

[fossil mural]

There is a big square hideout

I think?

[lucid gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmw_fVVUuxo&t=1m21s

[haughty bloom]

yeah that was the last good one

[fossil mural]

It wasnt that long ago

[haughty bloom]

almost a year ago

[split maple]

does it fit into nocturnal 🤔

[fossil mural]

Oasis looks big

[ocean nest]

forged frostbearer necromancer sounds to be a good leaguestart I guess

at least for me who wants to play minions badly

[fossil mural]

It looks like it will take up all the space

Promenade looks primising

Battle scarred

[tight plinth]

cartography has a pretty big open space

[haughty bloom]

is the quicksilver flask bull very nice

[fossil mural]

Its indoor so will look bad

[frigid wedge]

oooh

[haughty bloom]

does it help remind you to click flask

[hexed mountain]

holy molly scorching ray CLEARS cold dot even self cast and its not close

[signal shoal]

do Runegraft of Refraction nerf affects exanguinate?

[tight plinth]

bonus points if you have shaper mtx

[lucid sandal]

What sorts of builds have been cooked up for new scion ascendancy?

[frigid wedge]

yes

[hexed mountain]

pyroclsat mines is the obvious one

[signal shoal]

so no forking?(

[haughty bloom]

dark pact

[frigid wedge]

never forked

[fossil mural]

Man discovers easiest dot cap in the game

[fossil mural]

Yes

[stoic horizon]

only knifing

[fossil mural]

Exsang isnt a proj

[frigid wedge]

u took it to save a gem in ur 6L that would be chain support

it never forked

[stoic horizon]

it could never fork

[fossil mural]

I can fork

I am better

[haughty bloom]

I can scissor

[signal shoal]

so is this big nerf? i never tried and now looking for starting build. one of it is exsanguinate mines, but somebody said that this changes heavily affects it

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/classic-ef-where-is-it-yuri-where-the-yuri-at-korone-gif-23665600

[frigid wedge]

i can do both and then suffer the steel

[split maple]

well its -1 support gem, so what 30% less dmg?

[frigid wedge]

u lose some clear dps but the build is still fuckin exceptional

[haughty bloom]

rip no spoons in chat

[fossil mural]

Spoons overrated

[frigid wedge]

i like spooning!!!!

i spoon

[fossil mural]

Even soup you fork and then drink

[brazen vector]

You dont

[frigid wedge]

;-;

[brazen vector]

[split maple]

Alesia looks different today

[whole bluff]

I eat soup with a blade

[split maple]

a tad more menacing

[frigid wedge]

bad morning

[split maple]

evil twin day?

[brazen vector]

No twins involved, I ate them all in the womb

[frigid wedge]

you studied the blade to slay your foes, i studied the blade to eat soup in peace, we are not the same

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-shocked-cat-cat-shocked-kittens-kitten-gif-12626346118847122059

[split maple]

dont do banners kids

[stoic horizon]

folks we got a chimera right there, prepare your weapons

[brazen vector]

My banners inflict giga cancer now but im not giga cancer immune

[frigid wedge]

i am giga cancer

[whole bluff]

They should age restrict banners so only people who are 36+ can use them

[stoic horizon]

mmmm uranium banners

[whole bluff]

And below 37, for now

[stoic horizon]

pretty sure thats already the only demographic using them

[whole bluff]

Yay

[brazen vector]

Im 29

[stoic horizon]

ok auntie

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/hellooo-cat-cat-meme-kitty-black-cat-gif-3944595165325169081

[sleek ocean]

Your average belt wont be great

[stoic horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/846389813531115521.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[frigid wedge]

zemor i can't imagine shes much older than u, u gimme 35 vibes

[brazen vector]

Zemor is 56 at least

[stoic horizon]

lmao i mean i do look much older than i am, but im younger

23

[full fossil]

@crisp obsidian after looking into builds more idk if ima play ele hit since deathbeams one only has the endgame completed gear. not what you can get/do on league start before having currency

[whole bluff]

I hope I give 36 vibes

[wintry lily]

double it and give it to the next person

[brazen vector]

25 vibes

[whole bluff]

Meh

And I get carded if I shave

It's ADD, not youth

[brazen vector]

Better than discarded

[frigid wedge]

i dont even carry my id, i just pull up and ppl let me in

[stoic horizon]

they didnt check my id when i was 16

[tight plinth]

i havent been id-ed since i was 15

[split maple]

they checked my id more often after i was 20 than before i was 16

[brazen vector]

I get ided all the time

[sleek ocean]

If I shave i need to show id

[stoic horizon]

although by the end of prim school i already had a beard so understandable

[whole bluff]

I had people ask me to prove I was under 18 when I was 14, and people ask me to prove I'm over 20 at 36. But I think my eyes look way older now, and skin a bit

[frigid wedge]

thats bc ur a tiny girl that has the energy of a ferret

[brazen vector]

Online maybe

[stoic horizon]

offline alesia is actually a cat

[tight plinth]

alesia is atleast 6'5" in freedom units

[split maple]

offline alesia doesnt exist as concept

like girl when was the last time you werent there

[brazen vector]

Great...

[stoic horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507526008556224524/1475111869722394654/togif-4.gif

[frigid wedge]

i think shes more likely to be a puppy

[stoic horizon]

puppies are all fun and games until they shit on your carpet and eat your phone charger

[frigid wedge]

did i stutter

[stoic horizon]

my goldie really liked my ethernet cable when he was a puppy

but only in one specific spot

if it was covered there he wouldnt touch it

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[kindred laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/666519736007262240/1368460208447295509/togif-13.gif

[sleek ocean]

Still not sure what to league start

[stoic horizon]

then the car engine starts

[frigid wedge]

i have 2 builds to pick between and a functional pob/char for neither

[stoic horizon]

same

[stoic horizon]

discord is dying again?

[brazen vector]

Yea

[frigid wedge]

i am dying again

[brazen vector]

Ive never stopped dying

[stoic horizon]

their servers are breaking down because they didnt get the money from selling our id's to shady companies smh

[scarlet jacinth]

Schrodingers discord

[frigid wedge]

maybe you should stop

[brazen vector]

There is only one way to stop the process of dying

[limpid prairie]

Pyro clast mines or rolling magma mines

[frigid wedge]

balls

whats the content goal

[frigid wedge]

just survive faster smh

[noble sleet]

So with the new skill gems, do we have to wait till launch to see if any of them are actually good?

[limpid prairie]

Farm 5 divines and throw it away

[frigid wedge]

yes

[frigid wedge]

why tho

[hexed mountain]

i was checking sabo and it looked decent for pyro too the buffed node is good because low variance in damage and the 150% inc aura of pyro is a nice damage boost

[noble sleet]

I pray to god there’s some unintended interaction with them tht skyrockets them to S tier lmao

[scarlet jacinth]

Farm more divs and make whacky super fast build

[frigid wedge]

isnt pyro aura just exposure now

[hexed mountain]

the exposure scales on aura effect

so sabo node is -22% fire res

[limpid prairie]

Is the new buff strong?
I don't know how much hit you gain from it

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/lucky-star-tsukasa-tsukasa-hiiragi-eating-phone-funny-gif-14674139093149157189

[frigid wedge]

fairs

[hexed mountain]

havent really done the maths on before and after pyro changed

[scarlet jacinth]

I am confused.

[limpid prairie]

Playing static strike right after
Of course

[leaden quiver]

Its cool with will of xoph

Anyway hextoads look fun af

Big aoe, fully automatic

[hexed mountain]

my only issue with the reliquarian pyro on astral proj is it feels not that insane no?

[scarlet jacinth]

Oh and i should probably also learn how to make actual good rings.. after keepers "interesting ring crafts"

[brazen vector]

Ill play AWoRA and transition into ChoCo

[leaden quiver]

U just lay it fown and chill

[hexed mountain]

like astral proj is +1 hit on pyro

[leaden quiver]

While it spawns frogs

[hexed mountain]

from exploding on top of them

when you got like 8 projs a +1 hit seems almost irrelevant

[frigid wedge]

my attention being taken from my random stupid at sound of funny fast build

[hexed mountain]

comfy for clear useless on bosses

[scarlet jacinth]

Am starting the same one. Are you going necro?

[brazen vector]

Of course

[hexed mountain]

so in the end sabo probably deals more

[frigid wedge]

i think the idea was sabo for her static strike anyway

[scarlet jacinth]

Its such a confy build. Just waiting for the tree changes. Hey didn't you do that other animate weapon build with the blades?

[brazen vector]

Thats me, yea

[scarlet jacinth]

My attention span has since died as i debate wether to be smart or also attempt to make something speedy it looks too appealing

[toxic token]

Do on kill cosmetic effects work whith totems

[frigid wedge]

me debating between my non functional build and my non functional build but fast

[scarlet jacinth]

How was the clear on it overall? It looked lovely but the clear seemed a bit meh. And didn't it use aggresive minion wand?

[brazen vector]

Mine used FB severed in sleep and clear was fast

Not zoomy but fast

[scarlet jacinth]

Fast build! Cuz fast.. while i debate between decent build or making a build with shitty rare items and meh flasks.

[frigid wedge]

yes but

105% shock

[scarlet jacinth]

But t8 es roll

[thin leaf]

So torn on what to play

Imma just put some builds on a wheel and let fate decide.

[scarlet jacinth]

Did you ever try afk ravaged blight on it? Seems decent for it

[scarlet jacinth]

Didn't you plan on using voltaxic. Does it still shock after convert?

[brazen vector]

I killed ubers on it, so I assume it can do ravaged blight

[limpid prairie]

static strike general's cry
clearly

[scarlet jacinth]

Valid point.

[leaden quiver]

Hmm, shield of light looks pretty strong if you have allies?

[scarlet jacinth]

Mmhm i could still play flicker strike.. maybe

[limpid prairie]

Can you battle mage an spell with flicker strike?

[frigid wedge]

literally says your chaos damage can shock

[scarlet jacinth]

Oh yea i forgot...

[brazen vector]

Maybe ill shock everyone and play something atypical for me

[frigid wedge]

are u gonna go coc flicker

[frigid wedge]

maybe ill shock everyone and my build will work

[scarlet jacinth]

Flicker + shrine belt.. how fast can i go

[stoic horizon]

that would be shocking

[frigid wedge]

slower than my tshot

[brazen vector]

Doubt

[onyx adder]

Its got big numbers

All u need is hop

[limpid prairie]

No
But I'm curious
Cause like
Scion scavenger flicker is bad
We gotta improve the idea somehow

[scarlet jacinth]

Its cuz am terrible at crafting. You know that!

[frigid wedge]

coc discharge

[tight plinth]

adding coc doesnt improve the idea somehow

[brazen vector]

Scavenger flicker was never bad lmao

[onyx adder]

Much bigger numbers than eviscerate but u cant play it ignite/bleed

[frigid wedge]

scav flicker isnt sm bad as it just doesnt have many nodes other than terminus

[runic vine]

Yes but keep in mind for things like Multistrike, the BMC'd spell will only cast on the initial attack, not all 3 IIRC. Might need someone to fact check that for me but I remember BMC having a weird interaction with Multistrike'd attacks

[brazen vector]

Oh you're talking antiquarian

[stoic horizon]

you cant exert repeating attacks

[brazen vector]

Not scavenger

[tight plinth]

thirst for blood from reliquarian might just be 40% more bleed dps

[scarlet jacinth]

I should follow good build creators.. @frigid wedge pob when!

[frigid wedge]

for which build

[scarlet jacinth]

Speed!

[leaden quiver]

Yeah, when i looked I thought it was bad, but then I realised this is basically better than glacial shield swipe

[runic vine]

THIS was it, thank you. I knew there was a reason it worked like that, I just couldn't recall

[leaden quiver]

Which you can still use to ping pong them on glad

But the numbers are better, and with extra levels much better probably

[spiral cave]

Yes!

[limpid prairie]

Isn't it scavenger
How is new Scion called

[stoic horizon]

it just doesnt work at all, the first strike doesnt proc either

[fossil mural]

It doesnt

[brazen vector]

Reliquarian

[fossil mural]

Its like 8700 combined hit and 10 base crit with 2500/500 shield

Thats same flat as glacial

But more crit

[stoic horizon]

too many quarians

[runic vine]

Damn it's even worse than I recalled

[limpid prairie]

I don't accept that as her name

[fossil mural]

While eviscerate casually gets like

[leaden quiver]

Isnt it 5 waves?

[fossil mural]

10k flat

[tight plinth]

have you tried adding worms to it?

[kindred laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/woosah-ears

[fossil mural]

It has a limit of 4 waves

Well 5

[lost finch]

Berserker vs gladiator flicker
I keep going back and forth

[brazen vector]

Thats what my mother said too

[frigid wedge]

are u deadnaming the scion ascendancy

[fossil mural]

4 additional

[leaden quiver]

1 default + 4 add

[split maple]

slayer duh

[frigid wedge]

uh, ill lyk

[lost finch]

Slayer is neither peak damage or peak defence sorry

[split maple]

like why is suddenly everyone and their mother trying to force slayer stuff on glad

[frigid wedge]

slayer is the balance of both ascendancy

[scarlet jacinth]

Its peak slayer!

[limpid prairie]

Yes
Cause the force her into a name she didn't want
I'm sure Scion would like her Phericia name based league

[frigid wedge]

ppl too broke to grab more than skill

on forbs

[stoic horizon]

crossposting same question across 3 channels ewww

[final owl]

+1 for slayer if you're going flicker.

[leaden quiver]

Isnt it 40 to 55 at 5 waves, so better than glacial shield swipe

[split maple]

ig but i would rather play slayer without block than glad without dmg

[frigid wedge]

i think scion is quite fluid with their identity, considering new ascendancy changes every league

[split pagoda]

Not even just flicker seeing so much glad now for w/e reason

[fossil mural]

People getting baited by 99 block

[split pagoda]

Even glad bonezone like it didn't alrdy have mid dmg

[final owl]

if you have a nice league you just go FF lucky block. theres your defense.

[split maple]

did you see that bleedshater on glad lol

[split pagoda]

Yes lol

[split maple]

day2 slayer dmg on minmax pob

[frigid wedge]

ppl broke and lazy

[spice pecan]

un-bricked my PC by clearing CMOS again and updating bios and shit

[stoic horizon]

why even bleed on shitter, just play a single hit slam for that

[spice pecan]

but now my ethernet device has just fucking vanished lmao

[scarlet jacinth]

Should revisit poison pf flicker..

[frigid wedge]

maybe i should clear my cmos and bios irl

maybe id function

[limpid prairie]

Ethernet has a driver too trust

[split maple]

you do complex trauma and use bleed to get rid of that 0-10 trauma cycle yank

[spice pecan]

cannot update/install the drivers for it because the device is not on my pc

[split maple]

kinda comfy for legstart since it makes weapon not super important

[spice pecan]

for some reason

[noble sleet]

Is there a twister or tornado build in this game or no? I like seeing tornados everywhere lol

[spice pecan]

tornado of elemental turbulence inquis is a build

[frigid wedge]

both of those yes

[stoic horizon]

ah wait you meant boneshatter not earthshatter bleed bonezone is good

[frigid wedge]

twister is also a build but with stuff for kf being do needed i wouldn't recommend u start it

[tight plinth]

reliquarian brass dome + brass dome

[frigid wedge]

so uh

[split maple]

yeah just no clue why folks trying to force it on glad

[frigid wedge]

why we got 855 res

[noble sleet]

Is it good? So in my good days of Poe 2 which I’m playing now, Twister is pretty op lol. Barrage, frenzy charges and there’s nados all over the map

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-long-hair-mustache-magic-shia-labeouf-gif-17741293

[safe schooner]

huh guys, now that PConc is nerfed how do we even play PF ?

[wintry lily]

so you dont die to exposure + pen + curse duh

[wintry lily]

with pconc

[brazen vector]

Heist

[split maple]

la deadeye into mamba pf trust tho idk if pconcb is that bad now

[bold scarab]

I want tornado to be less shit at the start

[split maple]

it looks allrite

[frigid wedge]

ahh

obv

[safe schooner]

doubt

[wintry lily]

so silly of you

[leaden quiver]

Yeah just checking @fossil mural at 5 waves shield of light is
40 to 55 per 15 armour
790 to 1185 base
66% higher scaling crit

Glacial shield swipe is
29-43 added phys
607-911 base

[frigid wedge]

la deadeye into... speed

[leaden quiver]

Problem is, gss wasnt used before for a reason

[split maple]

i still think necro could hypothetically work there 😄

[leaden quiver]

At best youll juggle those two on gladiator now anyway with HoP

[split maple]

just coz it feels ridiculus enough

||i am rly worried about coc desecrate and mark timing needing to match at some point tho||

[frigid wedge]

oh very much so, i just want deadeye proj nodes for chain and projectiles

[soft perch]

azadi is op in softcore

[frigid wedge]

i want as much non conditional attack speed as i can get

[soft perch]

azadi is basically the 'yeah u can do juiced maps and u probably wont die no matter how bad ur gear is' item

[frigid wedge]

i want to be able to keep my speedge without having to buff ramp

[soft perch]

more or less

[frigid wedge]

like to the point that ill probably use frenzy ralakesh and cdrr support

[split maple]

ik triple block is good, issue is that folks are suddenly pobing fs/bleedzone/etc etc on glad where it just cannot get acceptable dmg at least not early, instead of going evi/lace

[safe schooner]

playing deadeye to level a PF what a sad day

[soft perch]

yea thats not happening

u can play sunder bleed glad perfectly fine

aggravate is comfy as hell and so are explosions

and the damage is acceptable for atlas progression

[split pagoda]

If ur an evis leaguestart kinda guy glad makes sense to me, otherwise just play slayer for bleed

[hexed mountain]

wasnt it the only retaliation that scaled off shield?

[leaden quiver]

Yeah

Now we have two

[hexed mountain]

so not being able to ping pong

[leaden quiver]

So u can ping pong them

U could ping pong with vengeful cry still

[brazen vector]

Ah fuck

[warm musk]

How to not go Holy strike

when im a sucker for melee skills

[soft perch]

bleed slams genuinely does pretty great damage though on absolute ratfuck gear so its perfectly acceptable even as 1h on glad

[limpid prairie]

Holy sweep it is

[soft perch]

fist of war is just good as hell

[wintry lily]

woe Mamba start upon ye

[leaden quiver]

Holy sweep + gss spam seems fun

[frigid wedge]

alesia do you wanna play mana

[potent bramble]

League Start or actual long-term build?

[leaden quiver]

Problem is, different elements

[brazen vector]

I hate mana

[leaden quiver]

So you gotta do something about it

[brazen vector]

Yes

[frigid wedge]

so u dont wanna play lightning conduit

xD

[soft perch]

i have been very surprised by how generic staff scaling is

[scarlet jacinth]

Hey Alesia you saw the thing about needing to resummon minions in mirage zones right?

[soft perch]

in pob at leaast

[leaden quiver]

Yeah its quite crazy aint it

[brazen vector]

AG and specters persist through loading screens

[leaden quiver]

Lots of global crit

[scarlet jacinth]

AW minions don't

[potent bramble]

Righteous Fire to start, get enough wealth for a Whispers of Infinity, roll a new character and go FRoSS. That's my plan, anyway, pending any further reveals from GGG

[brazen vector]

Desecrate unleash AW ezpz

[soft perch]

the weapon nodes are also all attack damage as well

not physical damage

[potent bramble]

Could also just do Spectres from launch, they're still strong

[brazen vector]

I dont wanna play fross again

[hexed mountain]

arma brand of recall could be really good this league too , cdr buffed on sabo , perfect crime buffed , +8 helm for brand recall

[scarlet jacinth]

Were u doing animate weapon of ranged? Why not trathus bladefall + just summon

[potent bramble]

That's just heresy

[brazen vector]

Also works, yea

[frigid wedge]

lightning arrow to tshot but i make the most abstract tshot the world has ever seen

[leaden quiver]

yeah

[split maple]

i still didnt play fross now that i think of it

one more for the backlog

[soft perch]

its just rly hinges on if generals cry mirages can proc hallowing flame

i think they can

[soft perch]

i just dont know for sure

the wording is very weird

[frigid wedge]

if im playing forbidden rite im playing tainted pact pf and that decision is final

[scarlet jacinth]

You still need to click the animate weapon skill to spawn them. Or are you somehow automating that bit?

[brazen vector]

Also RF is cringe

[leaden quiver]

very comfy here

[potent bramble]

If you're willing to cook up your own stuff, a 'death by a thousand cuts' type of poison-centered Cyclone could be interesting

[native token]

I played fross and its realy realy bad. Didn't liked it

[leaden quiver]

anyway glacial shield swipe + shield of light sounds like comfy damage

[potent bramble]

See now we can't be friends 😛

[brazen vector]

Unleash at the start is good enough

[split maple]

it just looked somewhat slow to me

[leaden quiver]

sinec you can just use monastery bell to trigger it xd

whenever you want

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-upset-violin-sponge-bob-mr-crab-gif-3530280

[native token]

It was wheelchair

[soft perch]

idk why youd use this when a rare staff can go over 1k pdps

[frigid wedge]

someone get rem

to post the rf hater thinf

[near void]

True, they should rename it to "Rapid Fatigue". That skill looks so boring.

[frigid wedge]

moderate inconvenience

new rf name

[native token]

Fross was a low/mid budget ssf build but not good after day 3-4

[noble sleet]

Is this gonna be a long week?

[potent bramble]

I did it in Keepers, I wouldn't say it's super zoomy but it was an incredibly smooth experience

And could have been a lot faster if I had put effort into it

[leaden quiver]

can get profane explosions on it as an extra prefix

if you get the 4mod one

[brazen vector]

Mamba it is then

[leaden quiver]

that or 22% pen

[soft perch]

yea but u could also use a better weapon

[frigid wedge]

lul

[leaden quiver]

(chaos pen)

[soft perch]

oh are you poison

fair enough

wait

no

wat

just use a better wep

[karmic gust]

how do people even scale gen cry damage the attack rate is slow and you cant exert it

never rly looked at that skill

[leaden quiver]

you spawn many dudes

[soft perch]

it just kinda does great damage out the gate

[safe schooner]

yo DB

[soft perch]

staves also have terrible attack speed scaling anyway

its fine

dont search attack speed on tree and look at templar btw

💀

[noble sleet]

I gotta look at this mambosa yall are talking about. I love how they gave it some downsides lol.

[frigid wedge]

big bonk

[leaden quiver]

problem is, holy strike deals lightning damage, so id have to convert that to chaos somehow to let them poison xd xpppppppppp

[soft perch]

no like

[leaden quiver]

giving them the staff allows you to give minions 80% cdot

[soft perch]

why chaos pen kulemak

just use better wep

[leaden quiver]

which is kinda nice for poison

[wintry lily]

@karmic gust i assume pconc start is still optimal

[leaden quiver]

anyway im just starting domblow because domblow is chill asf

[karmic gust]

well they didnt added anything else :d

[safe schooner]

regular now ?

[leaden quiver]

if you get vaal domination

[brazen vector]

@frigid wedge assass or pf

[split maple]

trust

[leaden quiver]

if minions could have a passive tree

then sure

[candid moon]

@karmic gust can you remind me the conditions for impending doom to function? 3 curse limit, cdr/cast speed ratios, vixens, anything else?

[leaden quiver]

the only condition is, a curse has to expire or be removed

[candid moon]

And why in pob increasing overlaps from 2 to 3 doesnt increase dps?

[leaden quiver]

you use vixens and apply more curses than you have with your impending doom curse

[karmic gust]

yea i think thats it

[frigid wedge]

for what

[karmic gust]

i think its already at trigger rate

[brazen vector]

Just say

[frigid wedge]

pf

[karmic gust]

like doomblast has charges and cooldown right

[brazen vector]

Okay

[wintry lily]

no cluege hence asking

[karmic gust]

so extra overlaps just proc doomblast more often but you are still limited by its cooldown

[leaden quiver]

0.15cd, 3 charges

[karmic gust]

at least that is how i understand it

[split maple]

whats your starter gonna be btw

[candid moon]

Oh, so more overlaps functions as if more cast speed or does cdr not increase doom rate?

[karmic gust]

so either you get more cast speed, or more overlaps to need less cast speed

[candid moon]

Icic

[frigid wedge]

u make me pick between pf and another ascendancy without context im gonna say pf to everything other than maybe necro if i think ur gonna corpse pact it

[split maple]

and okay what is Ben pobing: https://pobb.in/EI7U94sFoerv

[karmic gust]

i was just under impression for a while that its zerker locked skill but i guess they removed the zerker node a while ago

i wonder if its possible to make gencry pf pob then just for fun :d

or what would stop me from doing that at least

[soft perch]

u rly need the warcry cdr node near marauder

[karmic gust]

i guess tattoos maybe

[soft perch]

and u rly need the minimum power mastery

[candid moon]

I'll try to cook my own version with occultist crit to see how it differs to your pf version

[safe schooner]

I m so confused with PF now, like i love starting PF but what do we even do now ? Regular pconc is going to fall off and ? If the impending doom uniques is hard to get you're cooked ?

[hexed mountain]

no movement speed

[hexed mountain]

mamba

[karmic gust]

well same stuff as before nothing changed at all

for PF

[pulsar dune]

mamba but you get more AS

[wintry lily]

eh pconc should be the same

[pulsar dune]

or just suffer

[hexed mountain]

its all mamba

[karmic gust]

so just pathing issue i guess, makes sense

[safe schooner]

really ?

[soft perch]

p much

honestly i rly like this staff gen cry shell i made

just rly hinges on if this guardian node even fkin works for mirages lmao

[karmic gust]

what are you doing for defenses there even

[leaden quiver]

block

[soft perch]

max block

[leaden quiver]

staves are easy block cap

[soft perch]

its not that hard to get surprisingly

[leaden quiver]

its very easy to get

[karmic gust]

yea but no recover on block

actually isnt there mastery for that

[hexed mountain]

2% life on block

[soft perch]

ye but its not super strong

[hexed mountain]

its something

[soft perch]

it has leech and consecrated ground as well

[leaden quiver]

you get that for free

this too

[karmic gust]

i guess you can always just grab the inquis node eventually

and just do hybrid

[leaden quiver]

this too

[soft perch]

defences are the normal shit

[safe schooner]

how is the mamba nerf looking ? i cant weight it

[hexed mountain]

i think 20 life on block is about the most wasted point on earth

[soft perch]

bit of max res, some armour/es pieces

[karmic gust]

ez mana sustain

[soft perch]

youre block and recover some es on block so its probably fine

[native token]

Slams or kb

[hexed mountain]

hit mamba is dead , poison mamba doesnt care , just a bit less QoL from striking slower

[karmic gust]

you just have to get attack speed on weapons

now

[pulsar dune]

you need to get a bit of attack speed now, or give up on mater toxicist alch mark dot pools.

[karmic gust]

and thats about it

[leaden quiver]

oh also funniest shit ever, you get free 15% max life with a staff master

the socket one

lmao

[karmic gust]

i just swapped my mamba pob to AS pneumatics and grabbed thunderfist

[pulsar dune]

good for proxies

[odd flicker]

Is shield crush slayer good in comparison to the other melee skills this league?

[karmic gust]

which also has some attack speed so

[hexed mountain]

but mamba endgame can now stack the 8% life 25% life recovery from flask notable with low tolerance on the clusters and get EVEN MORE life flask action

[soft perch]

this is 67/69 block

[safe schooner]

sounds fair I guess

[safe schooner]

67 nice

[odd flicker]

[hexed mountain]

mamba might be one of the biggest abuser of the new clusters

[spice pecan]

brother

[karmic gust]

looks like fairly nice pathing

[soft perch]

it actually is pretty dense ye

[spice pecan]

its literally impossible to buy fucking temples in std

[soft perch]

biggest issue with staff templar is legit attack speed and accuracy

accuracy is mostly solved with new clusters

and u pretend attack speed isnt an issue with gen cry

[safe schooner]

anyone has cooked a good static strike build ? (regular?)

Also new static strike alt seems kinda like new LS if it double hits no?

[frigid wedge]

i wonder if my light conduit should be rearguard and bone offering to block cap

[leaden quiver]

oh true, you can pick the 60% crit mutli mastery

since you dont hit, right?

[soft perch]

i do hit

[leaden quiver]

ah

[soft perch]

im cycloning and proccing shockwave

for map clear

[leaden quiver]

hextoad

god hextoad makes me poggers

[soft perch]

and then bosses u just throw a desecrate on the floor and ur good cuz gen cry doesnt delete corpses

[scarlet jacinth]

Ur doing necro right? So bone offering for easy block is kinda nice

[stoic horizon]

with nimis ls is like 900 damage effectiveness, if the new static strike double hits its 1300 damsge effectiveness on max stacks

[final owl]

looks decent to me. kinda hard to say how it plays vs all the melee skills considering we have some new ones. considering league starting it

[frigid wedge]

its both if i do that iirc

[brazen vector]

So those are still fine?

[wintry lily]

brother its for league start, it will be fine

[frigid wedge]

rn ur better with thunderfist bc u only hit w one at a time now

[leaden quiver]

why do people think that nimis is going to affect the new static strike

lmao

[hexed mountain]

someone who knows minions well knows if ancestral call works on minions?

[crisp obsidian]

No, you need 23%+

[leaden quiver]

or that any proj modifiers will affect it

whats the rationale

[stoic horizon]

ppl do?

[soft perch]

no u dont

[stoic horizon]

it doesnt have proj tag

[soft perch]

u hit with both now

[final owl]

pre-league hopium is powerful stuff

[leaden quiver]

yeah, I've heard people talk about it scaling with follow through

or whatever

[soft perch]

and u hit with both next patch

[brazen vector]

Hm

[leaden quiver]

i thought there was something dubious like the holy strike thing

[hexed mountain]

nvm gem says it doesnt

[safe schooner]

i m tempted to start that and if its mechanically bad just go ele hit instead

[leaden quiver]

anyway HEXTOAD SWEEP

hextoads look chill for rituals and breach and blight mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[fossil mural]

Will be so ass

[frigid wedge]

did they remove that change from notes? does it still apply a combined poison again

[leaden quiver]

we are hextoading

[stoic horizon]

bros blaying nazeebo in poe

[leaden quiver]

hextoads

oh my god i just hexed all over the toad

[karmic gust]

yea

[brazen vector]

Fuck...

[karmic gust]

but crafting the suffixes there is giga pain without recombs

[zenith dome]

Just something I noticed. Shouldn't the banner on the main page pathofexile.com have a time? It just says March 6 PST. Or am I just reading it wrong?

[karmic gust]

so you can just do thunderfist so the weapon isnt pain to craft

[brazen vector]

I know, I crafted these xd

[stoic horizon]

go to the reveal page

[leaden quiver]

? its there for me

on the main page

[soft perch]

yea

[hexed mountain]

btw the wording on trans static strike is different from normal , it says your attack procs the beams , so maybe +strikes =+beams?

[frigid wedge]

oh sick

[fossil mural]

Whispers mana stack

[soft perch]

trans static strike says maximum 1 beam

[karmic gust]

whispers mana stack has even less attack speed xd

[stoic horizon]

last line might be hinting otherwise

[karmic gust]

i think that one actually might be ded somewhat

it was already very low qol before

[safe schooner]

I suspect the static strike works like LS so you have to hit from range for double hit

[fossil mural]

Sadge

[dapper ridge]

Is anyone elses' stash tab not transferred to standard yet

[leaden quiver]

mmm hextoad

[near void]

Yo league start at 8 pm

[leaden quiver]

for eubros yeah

amazing time

[karmic gust]

even though that one will actually still keep reliable fortify at least

[hexed mountain]

idk if last line is for +strikes or to say there's one beam per hit

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/lucas-frog-flag-gif-20816705

[leaden quiver]

real

[safe schooner]

sadly we dont know but i m so down to play that skill if it is mechanically good

[final owl]

I get to wake up a few hours after league start. I need everyone to get cracking so i can change my mind about my starter 3 times before i login.

[karmic gust]

the skill doesnt even have any projectiles whatsoever who even thinks hat lol

[hexed mountain]

vigilant strike looks like a megabuffed build in trade too

[karmic gust]

not a single line thats even remotely related to projectile

[hexed mountain]

enduranche charge on stun imbued will go ultra hard

[fossil mural]

Words are a social construct

[haughty bloom]

just play fubgun

[leaden quiver]

believe it or not

reading comprehension aint too hot here

[final owl]

whadjoo just say about me ma

[leaden quiver]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1rh6kv3/328_dance_with_death_energy_blade_juggernaut/
amazing posts on the "better" subreddit

leaguestarter with a required foulborn unique

when we dont know how attainable they are

also uses dwd??

[hexed mountain]

is trans stormburst legit just more than double damage stormburst but targets away from your cursor?

or i'm not understanding smth?

[leaden quiver]

id feel ashamed to post that

ridiculous

[split maple]

i saw so many fbl ghostwrithe pobs last few days

[leaden quiver]

400 upvotes btw

[fossil mural]

Yes

[split maple]

makes sense with eblade nerf

[leaden quiver]

makes sense, not for leaguestart though

[fossil mural]

We now have stormburst for clear

And for single target

Pog

[leaden quiver]

isnt it inside your cursor and then moves away from your cursor with each jump

[hoary scarab]

can i play you instead

[safe schooner]

I just compare LS to new static, in a way they could play similarly, but nimis unrelated, unless computing for dmg comparison

[rocky glade]

I am still surprised that Divine Blast counts as an attack and you know

Not a spell

[hexed mountain]

if we get enough AoE maybe the higher damage stormburst can single target higher ?

[leaden quiver]

definitely not

if it moves out

[hexed mountain]

[split maple]

gotta love Ben

[hexed mountain]

what if its full screen memes

[hoary scarab]

it was shown as a shield skill, wich are usually attacks

[fossil mural]

Sounds like it will be worse than normal anyway

Because of all the effort

Need to see how it functions anyway

Sounds weird af

[leaden quiver]

what im surprised to see

is the trans charged dash

literally 0 discussion about it

lmao

[stoic horizon]

cuz its charged dash

[fossil mural]

Its worse than normal

Normal at least clears faster

[pulsar vault]

I've seen so much post about people wanting to play GenCry with Hallowing Flame, they will be so sad when they see that it doesn't work :c

[fossil mural]

Cause you move at the same time

[safe schooner]

Btw guys what is that mamba line for ? "Cannot inflict multiple Poisons in the same Hit" ? I m confused wtf does that do ?

[fossil mural]

Why the fuck would you not want that

[hexed mountain]

to avoid the double poison on hit ring stack

[fossil mural]

Betrayals sting and new sword

[spice pecan]

betraya's sting lets you inflict an extra poison when you hit

[safe schooner]

ohhh okok

[fossil mural]

New sword would be

Bonkers

Kinda

For mamba

[pulsar vault]

Yep

[soft perch]

I think it works but will probably be clarified in q&a

[fossil mural]

On budget anyway

[pulsar vault]

All damage can poison for huge flat into Mamba would be absurd OP

[fossil mural]

Dw daggers would be better

[hoary scarab]

time to read

[fossil mural]

Anyway

[fossil mural]

Yes, exactly

[soft perch]

Sword sucks for mamba lol

[pulsar vault]

It should not, Mirages gets your offensive stats and the attack it's instancied

[soft perch]

What are u trying to say

[spice pecan]

hit a decent double corrupt

[soft perch]

Hallowing flame is a debuff on enemies that causes hits against them to do 25% phys as extra

[tight plinth]

"Mirage Warriors can apply on-hit effects and debuffs "

[soft perch]

The guardian notable probably works with generals cry too

[fossil mural]

And this man says people cant read

The hypocrit 😩

[wet bolt]

Does anyone know if "Expending a charge" work with minimum charges?

[soft perch]

The phys as extra lightning

[fossil mural]

Read my messages bruh

[pulsar vault]

Guardian will work

[stoic horizon]

no

[scarlet sonnet]

I believe you cant expend a charge in that case

[hoary scarab]

ah shit i just jumped into the middle of that

[pulsar vault]

Yes but it's still your attack despite not being you

[wet bolt]

That's what I figured, was just difficult finding an answer on google

[hoary scarab]

it would benefit from both guardian node and hallow flame iirc

[fossil mural]

Do gc dudes count as allies?

[safe schooner]

also we got this for mamba "The Low Tolerance Cluster Jewel Notable now has Poisons you inflict on non-Poisoned Enemies deal 200% increased Damage (previously 300%)." how bad is it ?

[pulsar vault]

yes

[soft perch]

The way hallowing flame is worded makes me think it’s calculating entities

[hoary scarab]

its been removed

[fossil mural]

Then it should work?

[soft perch]

Not you

[pulsar vault]

Maybe not that's the problem

[safe schooner]

oh wait

[soft perch]

It says ‘the one who’s

[prime hill]

so

[safe schooner]

its actually removed

HOLY

[soft perch]

Not ‘you’

[safe schooner]

saved ?

[fossil mural]

This isnt going live

[tight plinth]

they count as allies not you

[hoary scarab]

poison mamba is barely changed

[prime hill]

what is broader community playing now

still kf?

[soft perch]

And the game is able to determine you’re a different entity to a mirage

[hoary scarab]

static strike

[soft perch]

And mirages are able to determine they’re a different entity to each other

[scarlet sonnet]

Look under "Minimum Charges"
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Charge

Skills and effects that consume charges to activate an effect cannot use these minimum charges.

[prime hill]

surely jungroan wont get it nerfed tomorrow

[soft perch]

I’m pretty sure generals cry can apply hallowing flame even and trigger off of another generals cry mirage

[prime hill]

:clueless:

[hoary scarab]

it honestly just sounds so bonkers

[fossil mural]

Inb4 ggg sees this and prenerfs the interaction like ele hit

[soft perch]

But I don’t know for sure

I’ve seen enough people unsure about it to think it will just get clarified in q&a so

[pulsar vault]

"Hallowing Flame is a stackable debuff that causes the next attack from another ally other than the entity that inflicted Hallowing Flame to consume a stack and grant a non-stackable buff of the same name, granting 25% of physical damage gained as extra fire damage. ". Mirages cannot gain buff

Wait is the buff on the player ?

or on the mirage ?

[soft perch]

It’s a debuff

On the enemy

[hoary scarab]

it grants a buff tho

[wet bolt]

Ah, thanks!

[pulsar vault]

It's a debuff that grant a buff

and mirages cannot gain buff

[tight plinth]

if the gc mirage cant get the buff, then you can take it and gc will get it too

[soft perch]

It doesn’t state a buff though

[fossil mural]

Just need to hit

"Non-stackable buff of the same name"

[pulsar vault]

so they will trigger hallowing for guardian but not gain the damage from the buff because they will instant disappear after attacking

[soft perch]

It says attacks against enemies with hallowing flame inflict 25% physical as extra fire

[tight plinth]

oh yeah true

[soft perch]

Where’s the buff

It’s purely a debuff on enemies

[split maple]

lovely

[fossil mural]

It says buff

[pulsar vault]

Debuff into buff

[fossil mural]

Where is this from btw

[pulsar vault]

Wiki

[fossil mural]

And wiki got it from where?

[soft perch]

Wiki is wrong go read hallowing flame on the guardian node

It’s clearly a debuff

[pulsar vault]

It's a debuff that grant a buff

[fossil mural]

Its both from the description

[tight plinth]

yeah i dont think thats correct, i dont think they said anywhere its a buff

[fossil mural]

But like where is this from

Gem?

[pulsar vault]

Attack -> Hall debuff on enemy -> Hit enemy -> Grant buff to the entity that hit the enemy

[soft perch]

At no point does that state anything about a buff

[fossil mural]

Yea where the hell is the wiki info from

[pulsar vault]

It will be a buff

[fossil mural]

What does the support say