1┃general

[frigid wedge]

mine

for me

[crisp obsidian]

Welcome to the group!

[frigid wedge]

no mailing to ppl

[fossil mural]

You can blessed orb shaper guardians maps

[grizzled lily]

trust me you need, slayer provides alot but if youve played the skill, plus without hh if you go the new belt plus second ring, your aoe wont be enough for stuff like expedition or blight

[cobalt blade]

loll fair :3

[onyx adder]

Are blessed orb droprates buffed btw

[stoic horizon]

that blessed orbs swap em

[onyx adder]

Or are we gonna have to make do

[grizzled lily]

yea

[fossil mural]

Same as other normal currencies

[karmic gust]

did you checked what that tree is clicking tho

[onyx adder]

So not especially?

[crisp obsidian]

I have played it, didn't even click slayer aoe iirc

[frigid wedge]

deathbeam why do you have 14 tattoos for 1 warcry

[karmic gust]

its clicking more aoe than you would get from clusters

[fossil mural]

Only locks, mirrors, frac orbs and ancient orbs didnt get affected by the generic buff

[onyx adder]

Alright fine whatever i'll live

[grizzled lily]

only droprates not doubled are mirrors and locks

[leaden quiver]

just use lightning coil

pogge

[karmic gust]

as it needs the aoe for single target

[karmic gust]

its from old pob that i replacd with elee hit :d

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[karmic gust]

originally it was boneshatter penance mark jugg

[fossil mural]

Well frac and ancient orbs as well technically

[karmic gust]

so all the left side is tattoed

[fossil mural]

Since they are new

[karmic gust]

with warcry nodes

lol

[cobalt blade]

based

[grizzled lily]

prob frac rarer than divs

[cobalt blade]

might as well do that even if you dont take the nodes

[grizzled lily]

and annuls or whatnot

as rare are idk blessed orbs

[onyx adder]

Im always too embarrassed to go back to old pobs

[grizzled lily]

or chaos orbs

ancient orbs prob common occurance now

[leaden quiver]

cold sweat when I see all of them

especially 3.0 stuff

builds were so much simpler then lmao

[stoic horizon]

oh man

[karmic gust]

i dont dare to check old folders

[past rain]

HUNGRY LOOP 6 LINK?

[fossil mural]

Shows your growth

[stoic horizon]

i remember going back to my harvest starter

[modest depot]

@karmic gust i cant remember. is there a way to make mapsofexile show the avg value of map in cards or is just score based

like its rating them properly but i wanted a chaos value

[cobalt blade]

-flatstacker??

[karmic gust]

i removed the chaos value as the drop pool is not in datamine anymore

so im just stuck with older value

[modest depot]

fair enough

im debating if the 2x div is worth since it seems like most maps have a decent card

but i think defiled is too stacked

[fossil mural]

Its like 100% not

[grizzled lily]

its not just currency i hope, prob rares are more common also

[cobalt blade]

Ur just gonna get shitter cards most of the time

[fossil mural]

I think ggg kinda fucked up with the keystone

[cobalt blade]

vaal fragment or something

[grizzled lily]

better loot from everything please ggg

i want loot piniata

[onyx adder]

Neither

[grizzled lily]

i want to kill a rare and drop 10 rare equipments and a unique

[frigid wedge]

which keystone

[fossil mural]

Ggg said currency conversions are more common

[onyx adder]

3.9 is when pob changed compatibility i think

[fossil mural]

Double div cards

[frigid wedge]

what

[onyx adder]

My pobs dont go back before then but ive been using pob since 2.x

[frigid wedge]

is pilfering a keystone now or smth

[fossil mural]

Bruh did you sleep the stream

[frigid wedge]

my headphones were dead and i got bored as fuxk

[fossil mural]

You get 2x divination cards but they come from random maps

Not the one you are doing

[frigid wedge]

oh ewww

[fossil mural]

Yea its sucky

[wet yacht]

I got sidetracked lol

[cobalt blade]

the only way its good is if it pulls based on scries and theres 50 good scries

[wet yacht]

That blessed orbs can swap which guardian inhabits the map. Patch notes mentioned elder and conquerors, Octavian mentioned shaper in the wna

[cobalt blade]

i dont think theres 50 good scries

(tho maybe 30 would work)

[grizzled lily]

i know ggg enough to know that that is gonna be a broken concept that will buff EVERYTHING

[scarlet jacinth]

Elder/shaper maps will be so lovely now. We should be able to put them in whatever map we want now.

[cobalt blade]

they removed the divine/chaos conversion tho

[wet yacht]

Well shaper is still predetermined layouts

[stoic horizon]

shaper nah

[cobalt blade]

so your just gonna get abillion alts

[stoic horizon]

but elder conqueror yea

shaper have their own maps

[steel light]

?!

[wet yacht]

Strand destructive play whisps conqueror/elder guardian map. Mmmmmm

[cobalt blade]

p sure it was removed a few leagues back

[crisp obsidian]

It's worth for being more fun

[surreal musk]

i imagine shaper/elder guardian maps are gonna be much less profitable this league cause of voidstone change

[stoic horizon]

also because you cant drop awakened gems from maven witness now, although that wasnt a big part of the profit

[scarlet jacinth]

Run em quickly, people still need frags

And you get the new gems from bosses aswell (with voidstone)

[stoic horizon]

on the other hand the cost of frags might increase if a certain boss drops a popular greater gem

[scarlet jacinth]

And astrolobes are a thing (one of the vault gives currency another gives uniques) soo some profit could be found there

[fossil mural]

Boss rush in general should be still reallly good

Unless astrolabes dont drop in astrolabed maps

[leaden quiver]

if vaults are good

[cobalt blade]

did they say if those vaults would have any vault only uniques

[leaden quiver]

destructive play boss rush will be nice

[rustic sluice]

are balistas good in delve ? lvl 300-500 ?

[scarlet jacinth]

Boss rush 10run on silo or special maps will be pretty nice

[fossil mural]

Map bosses also drop astrolabes

[frigid wedge]

me and my silo runner

[fossil mural]

Even if vaults are meh

[stoic horizon]

you dont boss rush with dest play tho

[stable fulcrum]

Guys we do know the exact weightings of specific type of shrines right? I saw it somewhere but can't find the source now. Anyone knows?

[cobalt blade]

you do if your running guardian maps

[fossil mural]

You do, but on maps where you can kill mobs quickly

[blazing nymph]

I didn't hear about anything like that

[fossil mural]

It doesnt need to spawn max bosses

[cobalt blade]

which you can always do now for elder/conq and shaper is just okay maps in general

[noble sleet]

https://youtu.be/1vRHUP9P6tI?si=wxpQAW3UsZ8v5tmq what’s the s tier meta build ?

[frigid wedge]

i need to fix this build so i can run a 7 second silo clear

[cobalt blade]

hmm

i hope they do would be neat

[leaden quiver]

already nerfed

[scarlet jacinth]

The stream showed a vault where they said "contains powerful unqiues"

[stoic horizon]

thats not boss rush then

you just get maps that can get full/close to full completion easily

[leaden quiver]

ele hit with breachlord ascendancy

[noble sleet]

Why 😭😩

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/pf-mamba-viper-strike ok solid i think

[fossil mural]

It is bruh. You kill mobs with movement skills or auras

[cobalt blade]

That does not mean vault only tbf

[scarlet jacinth]

I guess thats fair

[blazing nymph]

Yeah, like void battery. Nothing about vault exclusives

[frigid wedge]

needing thunderfist now is crazy

[short prairie]

Pof sublime

I’ll never get my hands on that

[karmic gust]

i mean it makes sense i think

idk

especially with how mambaworks anywa

with added flat

[hexed mountain]

Word. Im planning on rushing that in ssf to do the unique vaults and try to get a few good ones

[frigid wedge]

no ik, its just funny af

[runic vine]

Guys if they're reworking sweep, what is Oak going to use as his attack?

[fossil mural]

Hes paladin now

[frigid wedge]

would a shako and some flat on gloves be any worse?

[cobalt blade]

game crash attack

[scarlet jacinth]

Ooh my bad i misunderstood your message then

[hexed mountain]

Oak is playing on 3.27

[short prairie]

Ask definitely oak

[scarlet jacinth]

Definitely oak.

[cobalt blade]

gonna be funny if we get the same issue as with enduring cry change

[karmic gust]

well losing helmet is a lot bigger loss than glove slot

even though mine has only 3 mods in pob xd

[frigid wedge]

lot more flat tho i think

[fossil mural]

Its gull league

[runic vine]

I can't handle Oak as-is, they can't buff him 🥹

[fossil mural]

Trust

[hexed mountain]

Blizzard crown till gull

[karmic gust]

barely

stuff doesnt scale well past 30

[cobalt blade]

35/10 flat gems?

or some actual support as the 10

[hexed mountain]

Yeah level 35 gem is basically level 32.5

[fossil mural]

And blizzard crown has flat

[karmic gust]

would def be some actual support as 10

but issue is kinda i already ran out of good ones anyway

[cobalt blade]

Ye idk what flat supports give below 20 tbh lol

[karmic gust]

now that overexertion is not great

[scarlet jacinth]

Shrine league huh

[hexed mountain]

Its still an acceptable level 1 imbue because one of the stats dont scale i think

[cobalt blade]

Theres always dmg on full since ur running that life mastery anyway tbf

[hexed mountain]

Yeah 10% and 7% per warcry

[karmic gust]

yea there are some

[hexed mountain]

A 17% level 1 is close to wed

[cobalt blade]

lmao sadism

surely not the worst support

[karmic gust]

surely :d

[hexed mountain]

Look at him cheat using awakened gem on a 3.28 build

[stoic horizon]

smh db fell off

[hexed mountain]

I wonder what they will do for the boring ones like wed

[cobalt blade]

Yeh idk if melee phys will exist as woke

[fossil mural]

Padding pob smh

[cobalt blade]

its just intimidate right

[karmic gust]

well we are getting some boring ones back

[cobalt blade]

wed might still exist for reflect though lot less boring of an effect

[stoic horizon]

surely there is a poison prolif exceptional gem

[hexed mountain]

Inb4 they remake them all in stuff like toads and grasping hands

[fossil mural]

None of the gems weve seen are really fun except bsb

[hexed mountain]

That would be a banger

[cobalt blade]

i like frost mage

frost mage enabling auras is massive

[karmic gust]

they deleted foulborn embalmer so maybe they will do that

[fossil mural]

(Its 0.7m)

[karmic gust]

because otherwrise thats just mean deletion

[scarlet jacinth]

I'll honestly take anything for additional dps support extra.

[hexed mountain]

Possible... Maybe it even has 3m range like bino

[fossil mural]

Playing poison spells? Tough luck

[short prairie]

Pad your pob with frost shield max stage immortal call

With endurance charges

[frigid wedge]

fair

[fossil mural]

I doubt that ngl

[stoic horizon]

vaal arctic armor ticked

[fossil mural]

1.5 is like maaaybe possible

[hexed mountain]

6m or bust

[fossil mural]

Make binos scale

[hexed mountain]

It is exceptional after all

[karmic gust]

highly doub tthye would give 3m to support

and make bino useless again :d

[stoic horizon]

6m prolif but original target doesnt get poisoned

[hexed mountain]

12m prolif but 12 seconds CD

[fossil mural]

I wonder why didnt they just call them lineage

[hexed mountain]

We doing poo2 now

[cobalt blade]

it also reflects the poison to you

[scarlet jacinth]

Watch GGG add some odd new item and turn the league into scaling something dumb like chaos res. Or something

[stoic horizon]

expended with frenzy charges

[fossil mural]

Using a frenzy charge lowers cooldown to 8 seconds

[karmic gust]

that wouldnt even be bad ngl

[stoic horizon]

nearby enemy chaos resistance is equal to yours

[hexed mountain]

If the whole map loaded at once it would be good yeah

[fossil mural]

And then you use plague bearer

[hexed mountain]

Load in towic sewer, hit once

[karmic gust]

just run fast

gogo

werent ppl doing that on edc anyway

[hexed mountain]

Yeah but edc didnt snowball the damage

[karmic gust]

true, not having consistent 0dps is pretty unfortunate

[hexed mountain]

You would need like 3000%ms and a script to follow

[short prairie]

I thought it’s gone?

[hexed mountain]

Too soon

[short prairie]

[scarlet jacinth]

New meta %inc dmg and +flat dmg from movement speed. Totally balanced unique that'd be

[noble sleet]

Ohh dang I saw that ele hit nerf dang that’s unfortunate lmao. Andrew was like “yep have fun it’s gonna be busted” awe lol

[limpid prairie]

Toxic sewers my beloved

[hexed mountain]

My beautiful toxic sewer

[whole bluff]

You still have time to say goodbye

It's not gone yet

[fossil mural]

They tried to pull that with ignite and poison too. Gave 2 new cool uniques and buffed binos

Only then to take a dump on them

In the notes

At least mamba recovered

[whole bluff]

You can do some toxic sewers and dream of the future you'll never have in 3.28

[hexed mountain]

Mamba's death was greatly exagerated

[noble sleet]

Ohh well lol.

[whole bluff]

I can't decide if LEs utter doom lore is just right or claustrophobic

[fossil mural]

[whole bluff]

Anyway, OT

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/whothefuckstartsaconversation-gif-22983824

[whole bluff]

Just the toxic sewer joke was a stolen line from LE

[mossy magnet]

anyone use better trading here? If yes how do i delete folders i dont want anymore?

[hexed mountain]

[fossil mural]

Anyway

New poison sword

[fossil mural]

How bad is it

[hexed mountain]

Most likely usable with enough flat

[whole bluff]

Looks pretty shit to me

[whole bluff]

Also this, I suppose

[hexed mountain]

Its kinda quadruple damage with shit basz

[cosmic eagle]

Flicker again?

[fossil mural]

Cant use it with mamba 😩

Mamba has basically 4x poison and 2x flat

And this has 4x poisons

[hexed mountain]

Can use it with vaal flicker strike

[noble sleet]

Whats Connorverse gonna play?

[whole bluff]

I just kinda think, if you're incentivised to get exactly 12 poisons, shouldn't it have been a more slam weapon?

[hexed mountain]

They probably made it a sword for that exact reason

[limpid prairie]

Heavy strike of tarthus

[whole bluff]

I guess

[hexed mountain]

They dont want quad poison on a fist of war hit

[whole bluff]

Yeah

[noble sleet]

Man with the shrine belt, I gotta wonder if that’ll power creep mageblood lol. I guess theres 3 belt contenders now. Headhunter, mageblood and now this?

[hexed mountain]

Earthquake of ampli would dot cap easily probs

[fossil mural]

Hh buffs drop when you enter mirage

[hexed mountain]

Perfect roll does, but most of us arent getting a perfect one

[fossil mural]

[whole bluff]

What would you even play with it as is? All I can think of is lacerate of butchery which sounds shit, or perforate cuz slam but even worse

[noble sleet]

Whattt, is that intended or why is it like that

[hexed mountain]

I will be happy if i even get a res shrine one with a crap offensive shrine in ssf

[whole bluff]

I want a diamond shrine

Idc about the other mod

[fossil mural]

Its a new zone like vaal shit

[noble sleet]

How many mirrors is this gonna be like 12 for a perfect roll..

[final owl]

mirages will be a new instance, anything that causes you to change areas does that

[hexed mountain]

Same but its 10% if rhey use shrine weight from shrine spawns

Res shrine is like 30%

[whole bluff]

Aren't there 14 shrines and each belt has 2?

[whole bluff]

Ah, weights

[fossil mural]

Id look for higest de and just play it like mamba

[noble sleet]

so it’s one defensive and one offensive which I guess limits it or makes things easier.

[hexed mountain]

Yeah but weighted

[surreal musk]

diamond shrine is going to feel like a snail

[fossil mural]

Where you stack low tol

[surreal musk]

no quicksilver or si lver flask

[hexed mountain]

Res shrine has 90 weight , diamond 30

[leaden quiver]

ahhh dom blow is going to be so good

[final owl]

why would they match the weights of those shrines in maps. the context is totally different

[whole bluff]

Rip

I just hope it's unweighted then

[limpid prairie]

Shrine belt is either going to have shit drop chance or 500 shrines it can roll
So price will be the divines you need to roll a good one which is kinda good?

[final owl]

that assumes it's divinable

[hexed mountain]

Its not

[leaden quiver]

its not

[cobalt blade]

Not divineable

[stoic horizon]

its not divinable

[leaden quiver]

they confirmed its like watchers eye

[noble sleet]

And it’ll be more busted if we can scale the shrine effect right?

[cobalt blade]

Confirmed in ziz interview

[onyx adder]

Na u can run it on big ass leapslam if thats what u want

[cobalt blade]

u can

[leaden quiver]

u can

[final owl]

right, fair enough. kind of expected tbh

[onyx adder]

P sure its a sword so u can use it with normie viper strike

[hexed mountain]

Yeah should work

[fossil mural]

Crit has no scaling

[surreal musk]

shrine belt is not gonna be nearly as expensive as people think, its a boss invite thats from the league mechanic thats in every single map for every player. even if its a 2% drop the a mount of bosses that are going to be ran is going to mean the supply will be very high

[whole bluff]

Oh, damn. Leap slam of groundbreaking is the one

[fossil mural]

[noble sleet]

man all hits are crits…. That sounds nice.. I’d like that in Poe 2 tbh..

[short prairie]

Shoes, since converse is a shoe brand

[fossil mural]

And stack low tol

[hexed mountain]

Yeah if you have divine shrine maybe no gull

[fossil mural]

Like mamba

[final owl]

a million crap shakos doesn't make the ease of getting a good one cheap

[hexed mountain]

Although gull on a res shrine isnt too bad

[noble sleet]

Divine shrine and you just beat the game

[thick narwhal]

does anyone know when they usually release pob/atlas data ?

[whole bluff]

Normie viper strike or leap slam of ground breaking. I bet that's the things that play it, if anything at all

[leaden quiver]

the day of the patch

[short prairie]

The day before

[stoic horizon]

its the only shrine to be confirmed as unrollable

[golden moat]

not on belt

[noble sleet]

I know ):

[runic vine]

Belt is confirmed to roll 1 Defensive shrine and 1 Offensive shrine right?

[short prairie]

Also the echo shrine buff is gonna be nerfed to sh**

[hexed mountain]

Diamond shrine and you beat the game too tbh

[noble sleet]

I need to look up the effects. 50% to all res and plus max Res sounds so relaxing. That’s majority res just covered

[leaden quiver]

with blunderbore + gull thats 90% all max res

except for chaos ofc

[short prairie]

Prob won’t be guaranteed crits, most likely 200% increased crits

[hexed mountain]

Dont need blunderboe

[leaden quiver]

and then 125% speed form accel shrien xd

[whole bluff]

Hmm. Can guardian give divine shrine? That would imply guardian uses weights? If weights and greater versions of shit shrines go hand in hand, that might imply belt doesn't have any greater shrines?

[hexed mountain]

Its 10 max res base

[noble sleet]

Chaos rolls on belt too thankfully lmao

[leaden quiver]

oh lmao

[hexed mountain]

So gull alone is 90 max

[brazen vector]

@noble sleet I accidently ignored your dm request but

[leaden quiver]

welp, 10 max res allows you to go transcendence maybe kekw

[whole bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

[golden moat]

did they say how rare the belt drop is? is it like sublime vision level drop rate from the boss?

[leaden quiver]

seems like the meta for deep delve then

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/who-tf-starts-a-conversation-like-that-who-the-fuck-starts-a-conversation-like-that-who-tf-i-just-sat-down-conversation-gif-25275678

[frigid wedge]

so rude smh

[noble sleet]

They told me to ask

[brazen vector]

Who

[stoic horizon]

the voices

[brazen vector]

7p

[limpid prairie]

F

[frigid wedge]

money

[whole bluff]

Vendor

[brazen vector]

2

[final owl]

no. i don't think they ever really talk about that stuff. they expect the community to figure it out in their usual fashion

[noble sleet]

I’ll show you give me a sec

[frigid wedge]

its me, im the vendor, i want ur shitty voices

:D

[past rain]

is Silo map on the atlas this time?

[scarlet jacinth]

Failed adorned jewel attempts . Best I've got to offer the vendor

[golden moat]

imma be delving anyways so ig belt drop rate doesnt matter for me

[noble sleet]

These

[fossil mural]

Actually, I wonder if betrayals sting works with the poison sword

[whole bluff]

I only have echoes of creation, sorry

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/grabby-hands-give-me-i-want-you-me-want-me-want-food-gif-24520158

[noble sleet]

Wait did they actually say echo would get nerfed.. this sounds broken, skills repeat…?

[brazen vector]

Shrines told you to ask me if im a furry?

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[stoic horizon]

man why am i getting so many invites from random bozos from this server that never said a word

[scarlet jacinth]

Sounds about right

[noble sleet]

We def don’t judge here

[cobalt blade]

i can offer 2 3p's in standard once your setting up ur funny meme choir thing

[fossil mural]

Its still being discussed

[scarlet jacinth]

You can have all the shitty bricked jewels you want!

[brazen vector]

I do judge

[frigid wedge]

the boykisser has made judgement

[fossil mural]

We dont know what shrines can roll, except divine cant

[golden moat]

exalt orbs being more common is feel good for crafting

[scarlet jacinth]

Hush women!

[frigid wedge]

oh fuck i forgot about that an didnt get a choir

[cobalt blade]

riip

[limpid prairie]

Lmao

[cosmic eagle]

At least ele hit got a giga buff and nerf at the same day

[frigid wedge]

nuuu

[cobalt blade]

don't think i have one of those f

[brazen vector]

I sold one for 600d yesterday

[noble sleet]

How is resonating shrine? Someome told me that got nerfed cause it looks fun

[fossil mural]

Yea go build a career or whatever the fuck you do these days

[golden moat]

yea imagine ziz didnt ask about ele hit, that skill would have had a 90% playrate the entire league

[cobalt blade]

its fine but nerfed yeah +1 charge and charges on hit/kill

[noble sleet]

Aweee man when you say that, it kinda hurts

[frigid wedge]

my 1 purpose is to yap at this moment in time, im very good at it

[cobalt blade]

instead of extra pdr per endu etc

[stoic horizon]

its ziz' fault smh

[fossil mural]

It no longer gives bonuses, just +1 max charge and charge on hit/kill

[cobalt blade]

https://tenor.com/view/pop-cat-gif-4564454694708864673

[noble sleet]

Awe that kinda sucks

[native abyss]

[cosmic raptor]

When leg start

[fossil mural]

Has its uses, but yea

[native abyss]

ask grok

[cosmic eagle]

They buff it during the stream no? Then 1-2 hours later andrew changed his mind

[fossil mural]

Was op

[short prairie]

You know league is starting if you see drayfuzz here

[gritty epoch]

Ele hit

[cobalt blade]

discharge prolly considers running reso

[frigid wedge]

yeye

[cobalt blade]

For qol well mapping

[fossil mural]

With gull you can probably spam discharge for clear

[golden moat]

andrew just said enjoy the skill during the stream, then they nerfed it after

[fossil mural]

Not so much for single target

[cosmic eagle]

Im going elementalist dawg

[frigid wedge]

moar aoe

[scarlet jacinth]

Fair enough, valid argument. Still am not a boykisser.

[cosmic raptor]

The fuck

[short prairie]

I’m going ssf flicker scion

I’m ready to suffer

[native abyss]

W

[noble sleet]

I remememr ziz asked about league starters getting changed and idk maybe im just really sick of seeing rolling magma get used. I honest to god Poe 2 never has that issue, I just don’t understand how a simple rolling magma is better than everything else lol.

[gritty epoch]

Jungroan pls get KF totems nerfed next

[final owl]

you know you don't actually need to use rolling magma to have a decent league start right

[brazen vector]

Ill go

Animate Weapons of Ranged Arms 🦾

[scarlet jacinth]

Yep same

[prime hill]

Nerf this nerf that...

[scarlet jacinth]

You fucker!

[cosmic raptor]

Let's play holy relic

[karmic gust]

poe2 progression is a lot more polished in acts so it makes sense that the early act skill variety is also better

[brazen vector]

Holy relic of cringe

[cobalt blade]

you could always just play absolution or something as your start

[prime hill]

Jeez I dont even think kf is as bad ppl make it out to be

[karmic gust]

most early skills in poe1 are just terrible :d

[cobalt blade]

Or like stormblast mines oos is still okay

[gritty epoch]

Mirage is a new zone and u need to.... Resummon minions

[cobalt blade]

but yeah most early skills just arent great

[short prairie]

Except frost blades

[cobalt blade]

magma is hard carried by double hit

[split maple]

spectral throw a1 is pretty pleasant

[cosmic eagle]

No chance for some holy action?

[scarlet jacinth]

Poison or hit variant?

[cobalt blade]

if your good at positioning yeah

[cosmic raptor]

You will get banned for this

[short prairie]

I ain’t holy enough apparently

[limpid prairie]

Monkey paw curls

[brazen vector]

You too

[karmic gust]

burning arrow is 10/10 at hillock and then never useful again :d

[cobalt blade]

holy relic of glorp

[noble sleet]

When I say I hate rolling magma, it just feels awful to use lol.

[golden moat]

they seemed confused on how flat damage scaling worked with ele hit and andrew thot it was as balanced as % eff. dmg on skills. so im guessing he took one look at how it worked after interview and was like yea nvm this is getting nerfed

[cosmic raptor]

I did not disrespect holy relic like you

[fossil mural]

And hh is fucked and shrines

[short prairie]

I’ll try out holy skills when holy damage becomes a thing in poe

[prime hill]

Glorp

[brazen vector]

Probably hit, no idea what actually exists so ill wing it as always

[split maple]

you mean throw backwards every so often when running then panickly tweak around the boss a tad

[cobalt blade]

truth

[noble sleet]

Uhh 😩😩 it’s one league just let it be op

[karmic gust]

also yea i was actually surprised how nice is spectral throw early when i leveled with it briefly last time

[scarlet jacinth]

Hit is definitely easier early on as it doesn't need a unique body armour with like 5 off colours.

[karmic gust]

good skill if you grab rando 2h

[cobalt blade]

but no i mean it doing like triple damage if your good at volley positioning

[brazen vector]

Poison needs the blood magic covenant?

[cobalt blade]

its v nasty early dmg with volley

[fossil mural]

Does anyone have a math on discharge? Is misery higher ailment damage or not?

[scarlet jacinth]

Normal atleast.

[cosmic raptor]

Ask grok

[fossil mural]

Fuck ur right

[prime hill]

@grok is this true

[brazen vector]

Hmm yea expensive early on

[wicked shore]

Oh, wow. Just realized this league is removing 2, might be removing 3 reward types from Blight's chest pool. Neat!

[scarlet jacinth]

Got a funny +to lvl of minion +to lvl of duration corrupt on them in keepers. 1st one. Thought that'll never happen again

[prime hill]

Yeah blight got hit by quadtap

[cobalt blade]

I mean removing harbies is a buff

Objectively from blight

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-girl-smile-smug-gif-8645837818159986657

[brazen vector]

Me with my +1/+2 minions doppelgänger

[golden moat]

turdtwister's moonbender trauma stack jugg thing for delve looks very promising as a starter

[cobalt blade]

you never got anything good from the harby chests

[short prairie]

You mean Steve?

[prime hill]

lol

[frigid wedge]

moonbender

[leaden quiver]

as a starter

xd

[karmic gust]

what happened to good old brightbeak for trauma stack memes

[golden moat]

sir turdtwister

[wicked shore]

We still got oiled up, and it's possible we only lose Harbinger (lmao) and Delve while breach changes to wombgifts and rarely rings. Also Belts.

Yes I primarily play blight for blighted maps and not whatever nonsense people were doing with enemy spawns.

[leaden quiver]

you do brightbreak, then rare siege axe

then foulborn moonbenders

[karmic gust]

foulborn? waht does that do

[leaden quiver]

brightbeak is 2.10 as nothing else

[golden moat]

40% attack speed LOL

[karmic gust]

oh wow

[leaden quiver]

50%

its 2.25 as

[karmic gust]

ok thats cute :d

[karmic gust]

big memes

[leaden quiver]

and 100% as extra

[fossil mural]

Okay discharge of misery is dogwater

[leaden quiver]

he uses og sin though

to just deal chaos instead of ping pong

[karmic gust]

thats actually like rly solid weapon in general

[golden moat]

in pohx keepers turd was destroying delve with that build

[karmic gust]

is ping pong even bad its just free trinity

[leaden quiver]

for trauma stacking yeah

[leaden quiver]

https://pobb.in/VIEBS_WieJsR

here pob

[onyx adder]

so im just checking here right

[fossil mural]

Right

[onyx adder]

this shit support has no synergy at all other than the stupid gloves

Added a new Strength/Intelligence Support Gem, Excommunicate: Supports melee attacks, causing them to gain a percentage of physical damage as extra fire and lightning damage, and excommunicate enemies on melee hit. Does not modify skills used by minions.

[warm musk]

Some rudy

[onyx adder]

right?

[cosmic raptor]

Supergrok heavy

[leaden quiver]

depends on the numbers

[onyx adder]

im not missing anything relevant?

[leaden quiver]

if its just simply better than added fire

[karmic gust]

well its just utility support right

[leaden quiver]

not even

the gloves already have it

[karmic gust]

chance to flee tier

[leaden quiver]

this support is useless for them

[karmic gust]

[leaden quiver]

excommunicate is a joke stat

[scarlet jacinth]

Fuck sake. How did i end up in this damn situation again.

[onyx adder]

ok

[leaden quiver]

but yeah

it not affecting minion skills is weird xd

[golden moat]

for day 1-2 gear this is nuts https://pobb.in/ivQpQ8T2zwMc

[fossil mural]

I mean it has extra

[onyx adder]

so its added fire damage for developers that ran out of design space

[karmic gust]

oh it doesnt even affet minions

[leaden quiver]

i want the numbers on exemplar

[onyx adder]

got it

[karmic gust]

tf

why

[fossil mural]

Maybe its not bad

[noble sleet]

Ohh is this the only unique that increased shrine effects? Ohh dude this seems like this would be busted asf with echo lmao

[whole bluff]

Excommunicate is kind of like brain fart lvl of design tbh

[leaden quiver]

holy so gotta use the holy thing

[leaden quiver]

the gull

[fossil mural]

Gull

[stoic horizon]

the gull

[leaden quiver]

the gull

[whole bluff]

If it had a use, it would almost for sure be OP

[leaden quiver]

the gull || the gull ||

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/seagull-angry-crazy-bird-gif-21518366

[stoic horizon]

||gull deez nuts||

[warm musk]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-licking-white-dog-gif-27524166

ty

[leaden quiver]

maybe if it had something else going for it

[cosmic raptor]

The gull

[leaden quiver]

like "convert 10% of physical damage to chaos" or whatever

it would be usable

but still mega meme tier

considering you have to melee hit them first

[whole bluff]

It's giga odd

Wonder if they had fever dreams of searing purity when they made it

[short prairie]

[leaden quiver]

and those gloves are t1 btw

[karmic gust]

the anti kosis technology

[fossil mural]

One day they will add "nearby enemies convert x% damage to chaos"

[leaden quiver]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Hand_of_Heresy

[noble sleet]

Bro this all looks so broken, I hope they don’t touch any of this lmao. This is fucking silly lmao. Resistances and all of it will just flat out be covered lmao. Holy I was thinking that belt was op on its own but with these uniques….

[scarlet jacinth]

Aah kosis. Either i die, or kosis dies

[karmic gust]

they were decent merc gloves at least :d

[leaden quiver]

were they?

[karmic gust]

yea aura aoe + regen rate

[leaden quiver]

they are good dusting gloves lmao

arent they like 300k or something

[whole bluff]

What the actual fuck. It was a merc gear item? Like the merc would just randomly fuck over some players and then drop a piece of equipment with no reliable use case?

[final owl]

the game needs chase items. that doesn't make them broken. or maybe the word "broken" has just been internetted to the point where it actually literally just means "good" now?

[golden moat]

can do 600 depth with that pob, v nice

[noble sleet]

Fuck mageblood this looks so much more fun

[fossil mural]

What skill hits a lot? Was it splitting steel?

For single target

[final owl]

KF aint bad fo' that.

[karmic gust]

i mean not as bad as dod mercs right :d i never met one but yea

[golden moat]

rain of arrows hits the most i think if ur doing some herald of agony thing

[drowsy eagle]

30aps flicker strike

[warm musk]

Yep, I can see shits good. Are you Rudy free fall?

[fossil mural]

I am thinking discharge with charge shrine

For clear youll be fine

[karmic gust]

roa only hits 3-4 times its not much

[fossil mural]

But on bosses you need to constantly get back

[frigid wedge]

? which

[karmic gust]

splitting hits def a lot more

roa of saturation does hit like idk

6 ish times

or something

maybe more

or less

[scarlet jacinth]

You calling me a boykisser!

[karmic gust]

yea wiki says 5-8

[noble sleet]

Ohh wait I just saw that his has like a 500-700 str requirement. Uhh is that pretty challenging to get if you’re not really a str character?

[karmic gust]

against signel

[fossil mural]

I watched hoag guide and it used splitting steel

[onyx adder]

did that happen lmfao

[frigid wedge]

[karmic gust]

i def remember seeing it somewhere

[onyx adder]

thats the funniest shit ive heard today

[fossil mural]

Just timeless it

[tight plinth]

did we solve the league yet chat?

[scarlet jacinth]

Supreme ostentation would fix the requirements right

[golden moat]

roa of saturation manaforged arrow + storm rain is the herald of agony thing i was thinking of

[fossil mural]

Would be also good if you dont need to wep swap for it

At least not often

[golden moat]

from this guys build he did for delve https://pobb.in/anhEkGfUdNWr

[karmic gust]

found it :d

[stoic horizon]

2+2=5

[karmic gust]

i think blunderbore is too much effort for the belt most of the time, just gull is plenty

[cobalt blade]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Mercenary's_Lot

also not as bad as when this was on mercs

[cosmic raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-of-course-drake-lil-yachty-laptop-confused-understand-gif-13325798991723423204

[fossil mural]

Can you get 25% somewhere else

[cobalt blade]

and if you were ci

you just fucked died

no counterplay except ignoring the merc

[karmic gust]

for resonating you need both i guess no opther way

as you cant i dont think

[sterile crescent]

Is merc ready for 3.28?

[cosmic raptor]

Imagine it also had a mirror

[final owl]

mercs certainly unalived my brains out regularly during merc league.

[fossil mural]

And then you cant get another 50% for third charge. That sucks

[cobalt blade]

technically you can dual wield ichimonij

[karmic gust]

i assume the hiero node doesnt have shrine effect too right

sorry i mean guardian

it does!

but not enough

but also nice

[fossil mural]

So dw ichimoji and guardian

For an extra charge

Icant

I imagine not worth it

[karmic gust]

yea not worth

[golden moat]

holyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy LOL

6 weeeks?

[frigid wedge]

oml

[stoic horizon]

some people are built different

[hallow bluff]

Is there a way to use PoB on mobile?

[frigid wedge]

mf tryna hit 100 on twilight strand

[karmic gust]

they should've just added it back to drop pool that dude deserves it

[tight plinth]

can a cws build get by with just bloodnotch and defiance of destiny for recouping life, but has 90+ attack and spell block?

[limpid prairie]

GGG has no chill
They could have said xD

[narrow yew]

who else going pure elemental slams on duelist ?

[noble sleet]

Is the Skelton shrine a meme or? Just summon skelly boys?

[fossil mural]

Wait, discharge only gets 10% more damage per level? Thats so lame

[molten hazel]

that is actually pretty mean lol

[fossil mural]

Thats a ballsack punch for sure

[cobalt blade]

#1┃general message

Some funnier context too

[scarlet jacinth]

Would of been a bit broken

[noble sleet]

Yeah I got really hyped when watching it, I mean it’s just one league, we’ve had more broken stuff why, why not just let hell rain loose /:

[limpid prairie]

110 hours/24

[cobalt blade]

its like 2-3 hours average per day

[molten hazel]

sure but then they should not have straight up said they know and wont fix it this league

[blazing nymph]

And it's a shame they did it after the interview, but a hell of a lot better than doing it a week in to the league

[cobalt blade]

its good they clarified it just a few hours after interview too instead of like 3 days later

[karmic gust]

should've clarified on league launch for the memes

[fossil mural]

Just dont tell anyone

Let them "discover"

[blazing nymph]

Extra patch notes to read while queueing, how thoughtful

[ember hemlock]

Dev is goated

[scarlet jacinth]

Day1 nerf would of been allot worse.

[noble sleet]

It could always be worse as they said

[molten hazel]

i was not going to play ele hit anyways but knew a few that was they are gonna be gutted to see this lol they spent all last night theory crafting builds for it XD

[leaden quiver]

i still remember the volatile dead enchant nerf

[*]

[sterile crescent]

Maybe if we complain enough they will reverse it? mamba was resurrected at least

[noble sleet]

Just maybe.. just maybe

[leaden quiver]

mamba was just clarified

they will not reverse it

[molten hazel]

considering how broken ele hit was going to be i doubt it XD

[leaden quiver]

they nerfed it because of that

[karmic gust]

well they did reverse the low tolerance nerf

i do not think the cold ele hit needs to be resurrected tho

[stoic horizon]

to be specific only low tolerance unnerf was a functional change from the first patch note iteration

[blazing nymph]

They nerfed it because they could already hear the week 1 complaints of "there's only one OP build because of a bug"

[scarlet jacinth]

We tried with bama, doesn't work sadly. The part they did reverse should be considered quite lucky

[sterile crescent]

Me too, cos then more ppl will be playing and it will get expensive 🫰

[cobalt blade]

what if we ask for spark buffs instead surely they do that right

[leaden quiver]

low tol revert good

can play it with skills other than mamber

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[karmic gust]

yea it was rly weird nerf in first place

[sterile crescent]

Discuss well what you want to complain, and gather all your support for that

[leaden quiver]

sadism low tol type beat

[karmic gust]

as low tol builds were always meme at best

[leaden quiver]

anyway i wonder if I can cook up a fire slam ignite build with that new sword

or the numbers are too dogshit for it

running around with 3metre prolif sounds cool

[fossil mural]

They thought the new sword was good

[cobalt blade]

Tbf if they didnt make mamba not work with it something probably wouldve came up

[sterile crescent]

Ask them to resurrect katabasis

[leaden quiver]

the sword is hilariously underscaled for flat damage

xd

[fossil mural]

Masterful form is probably giga expensive as ff

Right

[cobalt blade]

assassin mamba with some weird sources of flat damage scaling

[karmic gust]

well the sword has potential

[cobalt blade]

It wasnt pricy last league iirc

[karmic gust]

you can get flat elsewhere

[fossil mural]

Its just worse mamba

[leaden quiver]

thats why i want to cook a fire slam with ti

[fossil mural]

Cause mamba gets like 300% more poison damage and doubles flat

[karmic gust]

kinda yea

[leaden quiver]

holy pogman

xpp

[karmic gust]

but it has potential :d

[blazing nymph]

I'm wondering if the ignite refresh duration got pulled off the tree cos of an exceptional gem doing that, or more

Might be that that's whats needed for the sword to not suck

[fossil mural]

They were asked in the intreview and from what the answers are I think its just fucked

For 3.28

[blazing nymph]

Lol, fair

[noble sleet]

I think ziz should rename his video title now lmao

[karmic gust]

well its more likely becaues it was very unhealthy for the game i assume

every ignite build just turning into brand build on bosses :d

[fossil mural]

Are there any crazy rings for discharge? Or is it simply synth

[fossil mural]

Eviscerate still hit at least 4 times

[cobalt blade]

theres some precursors that are okay

worse than synth tho afaik

[valid coral]

bro, this was just add to the wiki as official source,

[blazing nymph]

Sir if your ring is having a crazy discharge please consult a doctor

[fossil mural]

Discharge of misery frfr

[leaden quiver]

+pcharge synth

Only really

Unless u wanna do %es stacking with precursors

[fossil mural]

I am thinking of going masterful form

[leaden quiver]

Masterful + badge

Yeah

[cobalt blade]

yes u play badge its discharge

You cant not take extra charges

[noble sleet]

Damn kinda sad I’m getting so hyped for a game I don’t play as much compared to two. Looks like one of the biggest leagues in a while

[scarlet jacinth]

For the other person who wanted todo animate weapon of ranged. Mirage area is a new instance soo you'll need to resummon

[cobalt blade]

i love how thats gonna fuck up the hh players

absolute perfection

[molten hazel]

when is gem info dropping today ?

[cobalt blade]

we dunno but prob within the next 2 days?

[molten hazel]

? it is meant to be today

[blazing nymph]

It's the middle of the night in nz, probably 9 hours to post

[crisp obsidian]

Huhh

Is it??

[cobalt blade]

i dont remember seeing them specify today but fair

[fossil mural]

Its not as bad as people pretend tbh

[fossil mural]

Yes, its like vaal area

[karmic gust]

they said child instance specifically

or something

i think

[cobalt blade]

Yea and they referred to vaal side areas and abyssal depths as other kinds of child instances

eg load screens you lose buffs

[fossil mural]

Btw discharge doesnt benefit from charge buffs themself right, unless the non consume procs

[lucid gale]

That image is legacy, the post was updated.

[karmic gust]

it should

deals damage then charges removed

[fossil mural]

Oh yea it works

[karmic gust]

or like this

[fossil mural]

At least as per wiki

[karmic gust]

either way yea works

[fossil mural]

Eventuality rod

Lmao

[noble sleet]

I’m gonna need shrine builds day one

Shrine mappin setup everything

[cobalt blade]

hoping for the first of my own kill to be that accel+res shrine

[dusky void]

with FF you can get 2 templar ascendancies on scion or?

[brazen vector]

@cobalt blade dont you need to sleep?

[cobalt blade]

i should

[brazen vector]

Correct

[tight plinth]

why is you no longer yella alesia

[cobalt blade]

ye actually good night lol :3

[brazen vector]

Because fuck the mods for taking my ability to post glorps away

[molten hazel]

i did not even know that it count for the transfigured version also before lol that kind of makes me salty since i would have loved that as a ranger thought it was only for the melee version that the breach bloodline worked XD

[brazen vector]

Sleep well!

[tight plinth]

nini

[cobalt blade]

might as well keep sleep schedule in this fucked up state for league start

[tight plinth]

capital D colon

the audacity

[brazen vector]

IKR!

[lucid gale]

[cobalt blade]

(it was bad on ranged anyway it already dealt all 3 types and u just ran trinity)

[scarlet jacinth]

Ain't too bad, animate weapon resummoning with unleash is fairly quick

[true falcon]

Woke up 4 hours early for work to fail at more PoBs

[molten hazel]

welp back to the scion acendency XD

[valid coral]

to get this blade, you can farm this mob as keeper and hardcore mode without Ruthless mode enable?

[true falcon]

Unleash Ball Lightning still looks best. But I need to play with lifecost stacking builds

[noble sleet]

I don’t like dealing with resistances in either games tbh or hoesnkrt any arpg and tht res shrine will just get rid of one big annoying factor for me lol. Never have to think about resistances again

[tight plinth]

ues

[dusky void]

what do you guys think about aura stacking herald stacking scion with prism guardian you can reserve determ zealotry and discipline on youre life and than all 3 puritys + heralds on mana with some clusters evenflesh and stone hatred etc is possible and pathfinder gives ez 4 flask uptime with balbala or flask belt and 25% reservation efficiency for life and mana from guardian helps to fit everything in

[tight plinth]

also yes

[fossil mural]

Warstaff with 2 charges, 3 levels and crit multi

[native abyss]

can’t glorp wtf

[fossil mural]

Get mogged

[tight plinth]

can you recomb minion mods on non minion wands?

[crisp obsidian]

Damn so it's not an in-map mechanic

[molten hazel]

have you seen the level 30 tears of purity in the scion acendency a nice way to fix that

[crisp obsidian]

Kinda cringe

[scarlet jacinth]

Huh no external emojis anymore

[fossil mural]

Hh useless shrines useless

Pog

[karmic gust]

just have perma shrines

[crisp obsidian]

Always blame yuzu

[karmic gust]

[crisp obsidian]

How do I have all shrines perma 😔

[final owl]

there are easier ways to "solve your resistances" than the new chase item belt. hth. unless you're cool with not solving your resistances until actual endgame for some reason

[tight plinth]

they taking away our freedums

[crisp obsidian]

My charlatan build is garbo now

[karmic gust]

guardian and self curse and uuuh

[scarlet jacinth]

<insert external server discord emoji of "this" here>

[karmic gust]

just stand in place for a bit

[crisp obsidian]

Still timed

[coarse prawn]

My bro claim that we can no longer "craft" weapon with the breach tree, is it true

[final owl]

it is true

[fossil mural]

Yes

[tight plinth]

yes

[crisp obsidian]

True

[coarse prawn]

Nice, ty

[fossil mural]

No wep and quiver

[karmic gust]

is it really true tho are we sure 😢

[noble sleet]

Ohh I have not

[fossil mural]

It should have been 100% reduced reservation cost

I hate this bullshit ngl

Poe2 does it so much better

[scarlet jacinth]

Soo i guess breach left for just uniques and armour

[noble sleet]

Actually in Poe 2 I hate even thinking about resistances in tht game. Think it’s a lot harder there than here cause there’s not as much tools

[noble sleet]

Poe 2 mentioned

[tight plinth]

oh yeah, is it only uniques and armour left?

[valid coral]

there is any strong unique equipment to minions that drop early in campain like oni-goroshi?

[past rain]

that feeling when u should be studying but all u wanna do is POB and leagues start test

ggg

[tight plinth]

thats poop

[fossil mural]

Jewels

Frac jewels was pretty good

[tight plinth]

okay less poop

[scarlet jacinth]

Unique jewels also kinda pog

[noble sleet]

Why can’t studying be as fun as Poe

[scarlet jacinth]

Can we still get 6links decently from breach?

[past rain]

fr who cares what incisura ischiadica major is

[fossil mural]

They said its nerfed

We dunno how much

[molten hazel]

?? why 100% reservation efficiency is pretty good

[tight plinth]

we dont know if its gutted gutted or just slightly nerfed

[fossil mural]

It only halves the cost

[sterile crescent]

If you haven't aced your maths, you're not pob-ing enough and seriously

[fossil mural]

I hate how an ascendancy point also has a fucking cost

[molten hazel]

more then halfs im pretty sure

[karmic gust]

baron

[tight plinth]

its half

exactly

[fossil mural]

No, 100% reserv is exactly half

[stoic horizon]

reserv/1+efficiency

so 100% puts that at 2 so half

[noble sleet]

All that matters is what fubgun plays

[fossil mural]

Cast on crit discharge with frostblink

[tight plinth]

mathil is gonna cosplay as a belly dancer 😳

[stoic horizon]

coc discharge login

[fossil mural]

Is there any way to make it trigger on other spell use

[stoic horizon]

cwdt scolds?

[true falcon]

Oh yeah, I forgot CoC Discharge doesn't require Flicker lol

[fossil mural]

Oh yes hm

But I want to scale levels on it

[tight plinth]

yes with that skull helm thingy

[fossil mural]

Does that matter for cwdt?

[tight plinth]

kitava whatitsface

[fossil mural]

Gull fucking sucks anyway

Doesnt give an extra charge

Without blunder

[stoic horizon]

after 20 gems dont increase in level req afaik

[tight plinth]

kitavas thirst

thatsitsface

[fossil mural]

4 link oof

Maybe

[crisp obsidian]

5

[stoic horizon]

scolds is 4link too

[crisp obsidian]

5

[fossil mural]

Oh right

[stoic horizon]

4.3

[true falcon]

Alt Discharge unleashed

[fossil mural]

Nah, pc on crit

Is a full link

[stoic horizon]

true

[molten hazel]

i hate poe math

[crisp obsidian]

Mirages are gonna suck ass

Rip

[tight plinth]

how so?

did they say something new?

[crisp obsidian]

Ruins your mapping

[gentle chasm]

just general doomerism from the locals

[final owl]

alas, nostradamus pulled back the curtain, and what he saw was poop.

[true falcon]

I'm more excited for the new atlas than the league mechanic

[crisp obsidian]

You go into mirage and lose all buffs

[tight plinth]

so alva temple?

[crisp obsidian]

But don't get flask charges back for example

[gentle chasm]

big deal

[stoic horizon]

we call that skill issue

[crisp obsidian]

Sucks ass

[gentle chasm]

its a build issue more

[crisp obsidian]

By the devs? Sure

[leaden quiver]

holy hammers looks good

[final owl]

do your builds operate on such a knife edge that losing buffs is a major problem. how do you start maps? do you just not go to abyssal depths? like what

[leaden quiver]

bro thinks a second juiced map is bad

icant

get an nvme ssd my bro

[tight plinth]

is it considered another instance? maybe its like those doors

[crisp obsidian]

It does when you need to either backtrack or gather your buffs 3 times a map

[gentle chasm]

nvme isnt going to save a minion bozo or some wet paper build that needs HH buffs

[tight plinth]

like entering a boss room

[warm musk]

If t 17s are gone is time to go back to farming easy valdos and fishing for deis?

[sterile crescent]

Imagine map so juiced you get mirrors, then you repeat with mirage :orgasm:

[final owl]

yes it is considered a sub instance, like a vaal area

[leaden quiver]

im going to play minions

[warm musk]

deli

[leaden quiver]

and you'll see that I'll just chill

bing chill

completely

[crisp obsidian]

Holy strike doesn't count

[sterile crescent]

Strongbox get x2 :hnng:

[leaden quiver]

domblow

[crisp obsidian]

Same thing

[leaden quiver]

domblow summons minions

[karmic gust]

domblow would get despawned no

[leaden quiver]

yes

[fossil mural]

Containment on those full mirage areas

Oof

[final owl]

gather your buffs. wild. what build relies so heavily on HH buffs it can't kill anything without them. how does that even make sense

[fossil mural]

Surely they arent 5div

[karmic gust]

there is a lot of builds like that

golden charlatan was super popular last league for example

[final owl]

how do they get their HH buffs if they can't kill anything

[crisp obsidian]

I said it sucks, I didn't say it being hard or impossible

[karmic gust]

they can

its just annoying to do it multiple times which is understandable

[fossil mural]

Does anyone remember what they said: full mirage maps drop from any map boss or only nightmare?

[tight plinth]

there are mirage maps?

[crisp obsidian]

Three times or backtrack to reduce to two

[gentle chasm]

mirage affected bosses i think?

[crisp obsidian]

Very zzz

[leaden quiver]

mirage affected bosses yeah

[fossil mural]

Oh yea

[dark shoal]

A wild uly spotted

[leaden quiver]

but you dont backtrack jiji

[junior otter]

why are people saying ele hit is dead what did they do to it

[karmic gust]

yea full mirage

[crisp obsidian]

Then you need to gather buffs etc 3 times

[stoic horizon]

unless you have the bigass mirage map

[tight plinth]

it was about to be godlike for like a few hours

[final owl]

they reversed course on the breachlord ascend interaction

[dark shoal]

If I'm reading this right, the number of maps is reduced to 16.

[karmic gust]

breach node ele hit is

[junior otter]

oh

[final owl]

so no more triple flat

[crisp obsidian]

100

[junior otter]

makes logical sense

is there any reason to play holy sweep templar over slayer

[tight plinth]

style points

i take that back, templar got no style

[karmic gust]

you get 10% shrine effect for the eventual shrine belt

big value

just gotta wait forit

[crisp obsidian]

is there any reason to play holy sweep templar over slayer

Answer is no

[junior otter]

holy sweep is gonna be good bro

just you wait

[final owl]

i'm already sick of hearing about the shrine belt and league hasn't started :I

[leaden quiver]

holy sweep is worse than most strike skills

[crisp obsidian]

1.2 aoe so good pog

[junior otter]

wdym 1.2 aoe its 2.8 on the sweep

[true falcon]

Shrine belt giveaway in global 777 /s

[karmic gust]

we will be belting shrines all over wraeclast

[fossil mural]

Youll run it and youll like it

[karmic gust]

the falling hammer aoe is like smaller than melee splash

its pretty funny

[fossil mural]

3 to 1 shrine belt will be a solid divh

[leaden quiver]

sweep has to have 50% more damage

to be usable

old damage + extra hammers

[junior otter]

wdym its already like 500% deps

[leaden quiver]

700

[junior otter]

not factoring attack speed

[leaden quiver]

70%

[junior otter]

its 500% factoring attack speed

[leaden quiver]

yeah thats ahh

[dark shoal]

It will sweep the meta.

[karmic gust]

you know what skill has these numbers

[junior otter]

its not that ahh

[valid coral]

yeah, but mean yeah, but was more saying start, kill a mob and reload over and over, but its this is not possible as wiki says

[gritty epoch]

Slow aps, 2h, no exerts