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[hexed mountain]

They did say holy strike was omegabusted when they tried it

[heady cliff]

4 hours 4 minutes act 10 practice run with trickster

[hexed mountain]

But nerfed it. Maybe not nerf enough

[cobalt blade]

they said it was busted vs hillock in twilight strand

[heady cliff]

i was angry enough with its awful slowness to improve

[cobalt blade]

that does not necesarily translate to the rest of the game

[final owl]

ele hit is the hot skill of much discussion currently.

[onyx adder]

💀

[hexed mountain]

I haave 9 kids and work 4 jobs. Hillock is my endgame

[cobalt blade]

[soft perch]

path upwards and get rid of everything below the mine node and to the left of the jewel socket

[final owl]

I mean late game scaling is the thing that matters right. otherwise it's just, woo a new campaign leveling skill

[hexed mountain]

Tbh guardian minion is foolproof anyway

If its crap just grab one of the 20 other minions that are playable

[onyx adder]

Did we get holy strike numbers

[soft perch]

holy strike seems not foulproof

[onyx adder]

No right

[soft perch]

it seems weird with weird scaling

[soft perch]

no

listen tho

[hexed mountain]

Yeah but if its shit you can play absolution

[soft perch]

WILMAS

peak

[gritty garnet]

I feel like it'll just be smite numbers without the flat

[potent bramble]

If I could come up with a way to make ele hit work more like Cyclone, insofar as "hold button, walk into enemy", I'd be all over it

[soft perch]

holy strike is a minion skill with a strike attached to it for some reason

[onyx adder]

As long as ur not running wilmas with doedre glove like that potato i saw yesterday

[potent bramble]

But I don't wanna have to actively use attack on each enemy I want to hit

[onyx adder]

I will accept it

[hexed mountain]

If they have no CD wilma holy strike will be hilarious

[soft perch]

HOW WAS THIS YOUR INTERPRETATION

OF WHAT I SAID

[karmic gust]

i guess we wont be able to transform imbued gems right

[simple stag]

So if I try to abuse the heck out of imbued gems how will I deal with the ramping costs

[final owl]

yeah. it's why I don't really wanna play it despite knowing it will be strong

[fathom fjord]

there are many mine nodes

[karmic gust]

you imbue lifetap

easy

[fathom fjord]

i just think it looks neat

[soft perch]

i said to the left of the jewel socket

[final owl]

having on top of that, half the league vying for whatever items are considered BiS for ele hit scaling and it's probs gonna be a bit rough..

[soft perch]

im literally blowing up

[simple stag]

ayaya

[round cairn]

can I make cwdt loop entirely on forbidden rite?

[onyx adder]

💀

[heady cliff]

Sir, this is not middle east

[fathom fjord]

oh my b reading

[soft perch]

woahhh ok buddy too soon

mr russian name man i think this aint ur time

[simple stag]

if i lifetap everything im going to go chronically insane

[hexed mountain]

Sir this is not the twin tower there late enough?

[fathom fjord]

mana regeneration still fucked tho

[onyx adder]

💀

[stray sedge]

Yeah you can really tell when a new league is inbound lol

They all crawl out of the woodworks

[hexed mountain]

People be bored in disc

League when

[soft perch]

@fathom fjord sane and normal pathing

[potent bramble]

Yee. I'm wondering if there's a decent way to run FRoSS with the Breachlord thing for INT. I know I've got a plan for a "there's no possible way this is gonna work", but even without that it might be reasonable if I can get enough added damage to consistently inflict Shock w/ Cyclone, b/c if I'm not mistaken that should give me a free boost to DPS

[stray sedge]

I mean same... I have literally nothing going on this entire week, it's gonna feel like an eternity

[potent bramble]

But it also might be completely and utterly pointless

[soft perch]

u can probably fix suppression in a better way than whatever the hell you were doing

[fathom fjord]

ghost shroud is silly w/ brass dome reliq

[heady cliff]

you could do 3-5 practice runs

[soft perch]

ok fine just dont click ghost shroud

[onyx adder]

💀

[stray sedge]

Hell no

I don't want to play before a league lol

[soft perch]

shut up you know this is literally normal mine pathing

[cobalt blade]

p sure fross doesnt work

[hexed mountain]

Could take the armour es wheel near witch you bypass and slap energized armour

[cobalt blade]

they said ele hit isnt technically supposed to work but its coded badly so it does work this league

[hexed mountain]

If you go brass dome anyway

[karmic gust]

FR literally says base damage anyway

[cobalt blade]

ya

[fathom fjord]

the thread of hope up top is too much value

[potent bramble]

Based on the text it shouldn't work, but at the same time... how can they say both 'Deals X to Y Chaos damage" and also "Deals 20% of your Energy Shield as base Chaos Damage" - surely the X-Y range is already the base damage. Can't have two base damages!

[hexed mountain]

Only issue with brass dome is you cant run it with mines until late red maps because you need a shaped helm you arent putting 5 off colour in a pure armour chest

[cobalt blade]

thats you taking damage

[sterile crescent]

@karmic gust in your elehit pob, you say we need to get "100%" reduced Regen on helm. Is it paramount to be 100% or else the build won't work, or can we get some and upgrade to 100% later?

[cobalt blade]

for the 2nd

[surreal musk]

https://pobb.in/32kOaz2HxO8u lycia boss rusher

[soft perch]

base damage is not added damag eim afraid

[karmic gust]

in the penance mark one?

you need 100%

[cobalt blade]

oh also the first line is the actual base damage of the skill

[fathom fjord]

it's only 177 str i've done worse

[sterile crescent]

Yea penance

Dang, so can't immediately league start with it

[potent bramble]

I know, but I'm saying there's a very slim chance that it says 'base' damage but it doesn't actually mean base damage

[karmic gust]

because otherwrise any regen on enemy is going to outregen lvl 1 corrupting fever

[hexed mountain]

Doesnt seem worth it on low curr leaguestart

[soft perch]

i hope youre not planning to kill packs of monsters with this

[hexed mountain]

Better run a chest with int and then swap to a helm

[wintry lily]

dont be silly splaff, he's a lycia boss rusher, he's going to ignore every floor until lycia /s

[surreal musk]

lycia as in the bloodline

[elfin shale]

Whats the minimum distance for an additional strike target

[soft perch]

i think he has the lycia node

[tight plinth]

chat have we found the bestest league starter yet?

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/slayer-cold-ele-hit-breach i also have this which abuses the breach stuff and no penance

[wintry lily]

even better, just ignore every mob on the map and boss rush mesa or some shit /s

[karmic gust]

i dont think its rly better but its something

[potent bramble]

I'm unsure what you mean. If the first line is the base damage, then the second line can't also be base damage, I feel.

[karmic gust]

it has its own issues

[hexed mountain]

Guardian and its not close because the sentinel gets you to yellow solo

[potent bramble]

I know it's cope, and there's basically zero chance it's gonna work

[cobalt blade]

one is the base damage that scales with level the 2nd is base damage from es scaling

[elfin shale]

Second line says "As base chaos damage"

[final owl]

I think both KF and ele hit are a write off for "best league starter" just because of how many people will start both

[elfin shale]

Both are the base damage of the skill

[sterile crescent]

Sorry, wdym abusing breach stuffs?

[hexed mountain]

I think i am going to reliquarian second build simply because bad lab 1 and 2, wants beacon , wants haper helm and wants timepiece

[cobalt blade]

like say cold snap dealing hit base damage and separate cold dot base

[potent bramble]

But regardless of what FRoSS does, if I can apply Shock via Cyclone (which I'm already using to trigger CoC), then I can get up to 50% increased damage dealt from FRoSS in the long-run

[cobalt blade]

but in this case both are hit

[karmic gust]

the breach node for replacing the added flats

with single type

[cobalt blade]

ur shock will be additive with wither

so its not actually that good

[potent bramble]

Only if I'm using Wither though! Contemplating Reliquarian instead, and using FF/FF to grab the Occultist node from Ascendant

[soft perch]

not using wither on chaos skills is like

[surreal musk]

why would you not use wither

[cobalt blade]

it would be very incorrect to not use wither

[potent bramble]

I'm not expecting it to be good, right now I'm just kickin' around ideas to see if they'd work

[soft perch]

using a slam skill on a wand

[cobalt blade]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Ritual_of_Shadows easy enough source of wither from timelessjewel forexample

if ur going trade

[sterile crescent]

So the build generally doesn't work until you can get enough exceptional eldritch ichor and orb of conflict to get the highest number for reduced Regen?

[soft perch]

@karmic gust do u think theres any merit to lycia non-poison pathfinder

[karmic gust]

you need 50%, other 50% is from pantheon

[potent bramble]

Gotta remember, anytime you branch away from 'normal', the first time it's gonna seem crazy. But ya gotta give it a fair shot first

[final owl]

6am saturday league start. ugh.

[final forge]

Above time (06:00 AEDT) in your local time · Mar 1, 2026, 7:00 PM

[karmic gust]

yea, on elementalist right

[hexed mountain]

Can also get unholy might on crit or broken faith

[soft perch]

sigh

[karmic gust]

oh wait lycia

non poison

[cobalt blade]

yaa

[karmic gust]

i cant read

yea i think so

[soft perch]

im thinking about pobbing reave pathfinder

[karmic gust]

well ok maybe not with reave

[soft perch]

converting flat ele to chaos

[hexed mountain]

I kinda like broken faith for the 100% armor and chaos leech too

[soft perch]

or some shit

[soft perch]

reave good skill what the hell

[fathom fjord]

Yes

[soft perch]

unholy might cluster jewel feels like its only good for like molten strike and kinetic fusillade

[hexed mountain]

Also always up unholy might means reflect proof

[karmic gust]

well its good if its carried by something idk if pf hit chaos can carry it :d

[hexed mountain]

While you just die with cluster

[sterile crescent]

Oh wait, so I can actually get the build running with the low tier ichor and ryslatha pantheon?
I didn't realize the lowest tier ichor is already 60%+ reduced regen

[soft perch]

shield also kills you because its impossible to be block on it

[karmic gust]

yea

[hexed mountain]

Idc about block when i got 150K armor 41 fortify and 85 max res tho

[onyx adder]

Ok listen this dude is going to make broken faith work if it kills him

And it will

Repeatedly

[stray sedge]

Is it? Haven't used reave in a decade lol. Refraction looked interesting

[soft perch]

ya reave is good

[hexed mountain]

Its not like im doing valdos anyway

[soft perch]

i pobbed some lycia dance with death glad and it looked genuinely quite good

the major issue is

[fathom fjord]

I've thought about using pf to enable extreme wild strike but couldn't figure out other scaling

[soft perch]

its super bait cuz the unholy might cluster is just not it for reave

u just cant get good enough wither on hit scaling

[karmic gust]

penance mark

[soft perch]

fusillade kinda sucks on glad as well cuz u have no spell damage rly

[sterile crescent]

Thankss, any recommendation on what to start with before switching to elehit?

[icy swan]

Kinetic Fusillade how good is this

[fathom fjord]

You're so right

[karmic gust]

and with breach node now wild strike lightning is no longer disgusting to build

its perfect

[fathom fjord]

Slap on abhorrent interrogation and now we're cooking with gas

[soft perch]

paradoxica moment

[hexed mountain]

Frostblades is kinda nice campain imo for strike skills

[soft perch]

ele hit is fine to play once u get skitters

very fine once u get normal lab

dont be tuadh and not run skitters they make ur life way better

[fathom fjord]

Oh like elemental weapon instead of phys convert

[karmic gust]

yea tri ele

[soft perch]

also dont click multistrike and ele equilibrium pls

[hexed mountain]

I actually had much more fun on frostblades on my surfcaster than on elehit after swap

[simple stag]

devs have destroyed my brain over imbued gems. thanks

[sterile crescent]

Really? I tried frostblades on 3.26 warden I think, it was pretty miserable dps imo

[karmic gust]

oh actually

breach node wont work on weapon

[fathom fjord]

I don't think local weapon works with breach bloodline tho

[karmic gust]

aah

[hexed mountain]

Well youbdo need a weapon but depends on asc

[soft perch]

thats why u go paradoxica

saved

[hexed mountain]

Yeah they confirmed it dont work

[karmic gust]

yea but then where are you getting flat from :d

[sterile crescent]

Deathbeam need to use his big brain to help build wild strikes of extremes build, that one is so whack

[soft perch]

thunderfist + wrath

[hexed mountain]

Smite

[soft perch]

paradoxica thunderfist wrath is genuinely an excellent setup

[karmic gust]

i guess thunderfist sounds good

[elfin shale]

Hey so the Breach node should make full chaos convert also pretty easy right? As an example you go Lightning on the breach Bloodline and equip Voltaxic rift and now 100% of added damage is chaos

[soft perch]

yea

[karmic gust]

but now you are wearing voltaxic

[soft perch]

getting more int than dex on voltaxic tho

gl

also that

[onyx adder]

Lycia is probably better

[elfin shale]

AS AN EXAMPLE

[onyx adder]

And just skip some amount of convert

[soft perch]

do i pob

[final owl]

mathil posted one for phrecia iirc? or was it just keepers. i don't remember. he doesn't care much about defenses though

[soft perch]

lycia poison spark occultist

lowkey

[hexed mountain]

Lycia and foulborn is easy conversion

[soft perch]

it cant be bad shorely

[onyx adder]

Alrdy pobbed as elementalist

Looks legit

[karmic gust]

yea but his setup was basically just halving added flat and ignoring that part

[hexed mountain]

You can run the foulborn maligaro till you can afford the jewel

[onyx adder]

Occ sucks

[karmic gust]

which is well

less than ideal

[soft perch]

occ has profane bloom and its funny

your move

[fathom fjord]

Voltaxix ain't working with extreme wild strike anyways

[onyx adder]

I would rather give up my weapon slot while mapping than play occ

Your move

[soft perch]

that is honestly fair

[karmic gust]

yea that was for different thing

[hexed mountain]

Also lowkey abyss jewel stacking goes hard on lycia. Just grab 6 mod corrupt jewels with random tri ele flat

[soft perch]

i concede

[hexed mountain]

On breach i mean

[fathom fjord]

Oic

[sterile crescent]

Wsoe biggest problem is defense no? 😅
Eating both health and es

[karmic gust]

man why did they made occu suck so much

just give back malediction

[fathom fjord]

Pf fixes it

[karmic gust]

the +1 curse node is such a massive joke now

[hexed mountain]

I wonder what ascendancy is nice for lightpoacher abuse with frostmage this league

[karmic gust]

oh good point about abyss jewels

paradoxica + abyuss jewel stacking

breahc node wild strike of extremes

then you dont lose glove eitherr

[fathom fjord]

Do you even need the beach node in this case

[soft perch]

ok ngl

[dry tree]

Replica paradoxica twice as good 2x the veiled mods

Obv

[soft perch]

thunderfist is not losing gloves

thunderfist is a really fucking good item

[karmic gust]

well idea would be PF with abhorrent right

[fathom fjord]

You could do abhorrent interrogation if you stack abyss

[karmic gust]

or at least that was part of the idea

[karmic gust]

just flat lightnin abyss jewels would probs not be enough flat

[soft perch]

i suppose but thunderfist is legit like top end almost 1k lightning damage

[karmic gust]

and what are you clicking as 4th node eon PF anyway

[hexed mountain]

Essence craft helm with +6 gem level if no support. Get that level 30 wrath going

[fathom fjord]

And the coins let you add a 5th link to thunder fist

Then shroud for more abyss jewels

[surreal musk]

thunderfist is for low budget , coins are a high budget thing

dont think u will use em together

[hexed mountain]

Its irrelevant to item choice anyway

Because you would get the imbued on your chest too

[karmic gust]

well it is somewhat reevant because you push down good supports with more links

[fathom fjord]

We're talking wild strike of the extreme on pf here

[karmic gust]

but its like 2% difference max

so not that relevant

[brave sky]

what's happening with with Home and Gemcutter's Mercy divination cards? I noticed they weren't patch noted but I suspect they might now specify Empower/Enlighten/Enhance to fit the card themes?

[hexed mountain]

Lowkey tho... Archdemon or blizzard crown with +8 or +10 level foe wrath or anger is a lot of flat

[sterile crescent]

Wait, deathbeam's Mamba not dead?? Bait??

[karmic gust]

well they unnerfed it

in patch notes

[fathom fjord]

But with wsoe you want treachery with purity auras

[umbral crag]

Its not fully unnerfed right

[hexed mountain]

Stronger than in 3.27 now

[karmic gust]

it lost attack speed

otherwise fully unnerfed basically

[fathom fjord]

Giving enemies big flat is kinda sadge

[karmic gust]

you are pf you will live

[olive sinew]

Mmmm im tempted

Shockwave totem of authority deals 25% more damage and has 20% dmg effectiveness

[hexed mountain]

The glorious 6 low tolerance+ flask node

[umbral crag]

Kek

Starting to think what to play now

No idea yet my starter

[fathom fjord]

I'm never rich enough to have progen tho

[karmic gust]

toh good enuff

[sterile crescent]

You have temu petrified blood

[karmic gust]

and if you are not doing breach memes then deli

probably

actually not

because combat focus

smh

[umbral crag]

Db whats ur league starter planned

[karmic gust]

no idea, i might just play PF and then farm for jiquani assassin :d

[umbral crag]

@.@ hahaha

[pine totem]

welp i guess ele hit only suppose to feel good after some mark

[umbral crag]

The neverending qn on league start

[fathom fjord]

Maybe no need cuz ws doesn't do 0 damage of element not chosen

[pine totem]

so back to my beloved frost blade

[umbral crag]

League starting ele hit seems kinda sad

[civic charm]

Elehit and kf totems are going to be big this league

[pine totem]

i saw the run

[karmic gust]

yea but for penance mark you want to lock lightning

[pine totem]

look pretty sad

[karmic gust]

for the chains

[umbral crag]

Yeah figured

[pine totem]

i feel like it gonna bang after u get the impact node on slayer

[hexed mountain]

Hm peak vigour for 8% max life and 25% life flask recovery on every low tolerance medium

[pine totem]

then the aoe increase and it look a bit better

[fathom fjord]

Fire aoe should cleave, no?

[karmic gust]

i guess you can do fire and lightning sure

[pine totem]

but it looked a bit jank

[fathom fjord]

So it's just ice

[karmic gust]

if you scale fire aoe to 4 radius

or so

which isnt that hard

but still effort

[hard cliff]

anyone looking at the extending shock nova transfigured?

mechanically at least it looks cool

can't miss lol

[hexed mountain]

They showcased it in the greater echo staff... Need to see it base

Also its not around you maybe cascade?

[fathom fjord]

What is it base at 20?

[hard cliff]

scammed

[soft perch]

i am unhappy with ele hit as a leaguestart

i gotta cook something else

[hexed mountain]

Come to the holy side

[icy swan]

whats diffrence rf chieftan vs eviscirate

[hexed mountain]

Play guardian and test the new skills

Evisc does damage

[granite nexus]

Shield crush slayer is good and easy swap once you get stuff

[karmic gust]

2.4 i think

or 2.5

similar to ele hit

pretyt big

[fathom fjord]

Come cook wild strike or infernal blow

[final owl]

i was considering this. still am kinda

[karmic gust]

yea 2.4 base

with some aoe on the gem

so slightly smaller than ele hit base

[onyx adder]

The kittens will survive until another day

[soft perch]

what the fuck does this mean

[karmic gust]

smh not reading other servers

[sterile crescent]

Any levelling pob with elehit? 🤔

[final owl]

I think they were threatening to kill some kittens if you played ele hit leaguestart.

[icy swan]

hmm igues it can be tanky too

[onyx adder]

Only if he posted another elehit pob

Playing it would be cool

[final owl]

oh right. I suppose thats fair

[soft perch]

do u want some colossal bait

[delicate ether]

alrd nerfed ? why is 15% in pob

[fathom fjord]

Yes

[soft perch]

no im not posting it cuz its not a real build

[surreal musk]

its just a type in pob, if you click it , your dps increases by 50%

[fathom fjord]

None of my builds are real builds send it

[hard cliff]

please

[karmic gust]

idk why pob has 15% there

[onyx adder]

Can i stop it

Or is it getting posted regardless

[hard cliff]

let him post it

[karmic gust]

15% do not even matches with lesser shrine

[surreal musk]

even though it says 15% it actually increases your action speed by 50% when you have it ticked in pob

[karmic gust]

as that one is 10%

[surreal musk]

typo

[sterile crescent]

🤲

[odd fox]

what if toad league, we fill the screen with toads with hextoad

[stray sedge]

Couldn't you just play another strike skill to level up and then swap when you get the jewels? I really don't think it would be bad

[soft perch]

https://pobb.in/B4g_8AMQbPXF here u go

[karmic gust]

ah, lol

[soft perch]

please dont play this

i dont even think its functional

[granite nexus]

Toads are cool

[karmic gust]

should've just went all in on that one for the memes

[surreal musk]

https://i.imgur.com/x65MCeU.png

[soft perch]

azadi moment

[icy swan]

are there any new skills that witch can use great ?

[fathom fjord]

ty this is good build i will league start this

[onyx adder]

Thanks, i hate it

[soft perch]

azadi dance with death in softcore is honestly very good

its obviously not good for hc

[hard cliff]

No

[wicked shore]

Is the gem info post going to include the new exceptionals, or is that something people are going to have to crowdsource from standard?

[soft perch]

but u get insane bang for your buck and it is way way tankier on avg compared to random builds and can farm all content it will just die maybe every 20 maps randomly

or more

that build however is stretched way too thin

https://pobb.in/cBWoTEssQFOC i honestly might just play my friends setup it looks very reasonable

[odd fox]

block only blocks hits tho no? what if its not a hit?

[final owl]

that is some decidedly ethical looking dps

[short prairie]

you take full damage

Like dots

[soft perch]

this is why i said that pob specifically is a bit rough around the edges

[icy swan]

rip

[final owl]

block doesn't do everything but it's still a pretty damn strong defensive layer

[soft perch]

block is the best defence in poe atm

[surreal musk]

ehp in pob should be deleted like my fross char had infite ehp cause it had recover on block but still died in juiced t17s

[final owl]

especially if you can get any kind of hp or es gain on block

[odd fox]

what about endurance stacking + immortal call

[sterile crescent]

This azadi delusion is so strong

[soft perch]

azadis is genuinely a really fucking good item lol

[short prairie]

If you want to play an all rounder just play jugg with svalinn

[icy swan]

but ppl seing slam slayer got so much leaching he dont need any defence to be immortal xD

[short prairie]

Jugg with svalinn is pretty dam strong

[soft perch]

azadi is a better item than svalinn that is nerfed by being stuck to glad or glad ff

[karmic gust]

[wintry lily]

i bet you ticked wither /s

[final owl]

1 Warnings - unethical dps

[soft perch]

lul

[hard cliff]

yeah let me get right on that

[icy swan]

should i go glacial cascade ?

[hard cliff]

yes my friend

[onyx adder]

Its a valuable stat to know about

[surreal musk]

block with a large pool and recover on block is the best defense in poe

[odd fox]

if only sabot ascend wasnt sabotaged, we couldve played gc miner

[onyx adder]

And these days ppl obsess over maxhit rather than ehp so its less stupid than it used to be

[fathom fjord]

you still can! on another ascendancy

[final owl]

instant leech + recovery on block is nice. you don't even need lucky block for it to be strong

[odd fox]

sigh

[karmic gust]

i consider myself pioneer

[tranquil sedge]

its a noob trap for sure

[short prairie]

That’s why I take iron reflexes

[karmic gust]

im surprised i dont have older messages calling evasion bad sadge

[fathom fjord]

i wish it was better

[onyx adder]

Evasion isnt bad tho

[fathom fjord]

i'm probably gonna league start some dogshit spell totem build again

[wintry lily]

yeah but how else am I going to justify my 3k hp/s life flask

[odd fox]

is recoup life over 4 seconds?

[hard cliff]

big brain

[onyx adder]

Not in the sense that siphoning trap or cank is bad

[cobalt blade]

i love peoples svalinn builds with 10k max hit and 1 million ehp asking why they die

[hard cliff]

do the new shock wave totem that centers on you and run face first into enemies

[onyx adder]

Its just useless against certain things and not worth the investment at other times

[tight plinth]

woct mines seems nice

[tranquil sedge]

by default, yes, 4 seconds

[onyx adder]

But is sometimes good

[fathom fjord]

i guarantee you it's not gonna have nova tag so it's gonna be huge bait

it's so hard to build a spell totem build that's tanky and has good damage

[final owl]

both evasion and armor are fine so long as you're not only getting their base benefits. imo.

[soft perch]

sir

it has the nova tag

we've seen the gem

[fathom fjord]

oh what

[fathom fjord]

where

[karmic gust]

yea but it was supposed to be a joke

[fathom fjord]

i missed

[tight plinth]

did we see the gem?

[karmic gust]

bring out the kittens there will be some killing for missing it

[surreal musk]

why does nova tag matter

[fathom fjord]

astral projector

[surreal musk]

lol

the opportunity cost of a ring these days is pretty high u know

[tight plinth]

that wont work anyway

[wintry lily]

just play reliquarian or whatever its called or some shit

[odd fox]

even with recovery master, need like 300% recoup

[fathom fjord]

the opportunity cost of building a shockwave totem build that can do damage and survive running into packs is even higher

[soft perch]

was on the stream

had like 25-30% more base damage than normal swt

[karmic gust]

isnt the whole point of shockwave totem that even thoug the gem is 0dps it can hit stuff at range

because base shockwave is 0dps gem

[fathom fjord]

base shockwave is 0dps and only hits around the totem

it is unplayable without astral projector

[karmic gust]

yea

[fathom fjord]

you're so right

the kittens will be spared

[karmic gust]

why does poedb not have it when it has rest

[onyx adder]

U know what im gonna say right

[karmic gust]

wow this sucks

is the only difference 20% extra DE?

[fathom fjord]

and 20% more damage

[onyx adder]

That being its chuan's way of making sure nobody plays the skill

Helping out his bros

[fathom fjord]

base is Deals (33—412) to (65—765) Physical Damage

[karmic gust]

thats so bad

oh and slightly bigger

well a lot bigger actually

[onyx adder]

Since its got nova tag i suppose it is strictly better than shockwave base

Like actual strictly

[karmic gust]

if astral can override the targetting

oh wait nova

or well

idk

the targetting is overriden by the gem

and then by astral after idk if that will work

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/please-beg-20

[tight plinth]

astral says "instead of casting around you" meaning the caster

[karmic gust]

well the caster is the totem and its not casting around itself

[fathom fjord]

what did divergent shockwave totem do again

[tight plinth]

meaning around the totem itself, but trans showave isnt casting around itself

[fathom fjord]

i forget why it was so much better than base

[tight plinth]

so i doubt astral works

[hard cliff]

https://youtu.be/rJ6E933J8X0

I've found the Korean league starters

[candid pier]

Big Oof?

[tight plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGUiEPdzTD4

[karmic gust]

converted to cold

from qual

[fathom fjord]

that's right

were the numbers still the same?

[karmic gust]

well the alt quals only changed quals right

[hard cliff]

it's so pretty 👀

[karmic gust]

so ofc

[fathom fjord]

it's been so long idr

[tight plinth]

ikr? also the damage

[karmic gust]

have we seen that divine blast clip? because that is pretty fat aoe

[onyx adder]

It looks SO bad

U still have a cap of 1 wave

So ur clear is 1 tiny blob x number of mines

[odd fox]

mines
looks inside
assassin

[karmic gust]

i guess it has 2.9 base radius did not even noticed its that massive

[onyx adder]

Plus 1 big wave at the end

[wintry lily]

afaik the other waves still double hit

it just doesn't get to clear since it doesnt expand

[onyx adder]

Yea if the mob is standing on top of the mine

Lmao

[wintry lily]

hard if but yeah

I think fearlessdumb0 has a video where he compared it against reap

and came out ahead

then again, its against maven, one of the most optimal bosses for that setup

[spice pecan]

damn

[final owl]

clear doesn't look that bad but i guess it depends what you're comparing it to

[spice pecan]

its hard as fuk to give out free cowards trials/untainted paradises on last day

[wintry lily]

clear is mid for a miner build

[tranquil sedge]

lmfao

[final owl]

it's no KF or flicker or KBoC I guess

[wintry lily]

but everything is mid when its not exsang miners

[hard cliff]

https://pobb.in/cf-SBpAQm-aQ

Korean divine blast league start idea

[wintry lily]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45lRuIcNolk ye this one

[hard cliff]

wait that's the wrong pob

[wintry lily]

definitely not a build i'd play

[hard cliff]

whatever figure it out yourself

[simple stag]

i am breaking up with KF and im going divine blast for fun

[final owl]

surely there will be strong bossing strats this league.

[short prairie]

1m dps?

[final owl]

it can't be entirely map blaster league

[tight plinth]

same as any other league, a miner/trapper dude with a bajillion dps

[short prairie]

Flicker mentioned

[gritty garnet]

divine blast doesn't look that impressive numeric-wise

[karmic gust]

farm league boss sell belts for mirrors ez

[karmic gust]

its like straight up better shield crush

with fat ass base crit

thats pretty impressive number wise

[odd fox]

inb4 u have to do 20 maps to get a chance of killing the head on spear guy

[gritty garnet]

these numbers?
169 to 253 Base Off Hand Physical Damage
3 to 5 Added Physical Damage per 15 Armour on Shield

[final owl]

I caught the disease, what can I say. flicker will always have a place in my heart.

[karmic gust]

these numbersr

way faster explosion deals double damage and it hits with main and explosion

[gritty garnet]

oh right the extra explosion damage

[tight plinth]

oh kirac sell maps for gold now, interesting

[karmic gust]

shield crush is 0.8 attack time

[tight plinth]

is that skill any better than shield crush?

[gritty garnet]

at least it's not chieftain levels of speed

[hard cliff]

listen to me

[karmic gust]

yes its better

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

[simple stag]

is added phys also going to convert with the breachlord

[tight plinth]

phys is easy to convert

[karmic gust]

you lose some melee relted stuff tho

but the rest of the gem makes up for it easily pretty sure

[tight plinth]

no need to go for ascendancy if you wanted it converted

[simple stag]

okay sure

[worldly bridge]

yall how viable is jugg holy sweep

[tight plinth]

yes

[sterile crescent]

Where to get divine blast

[worldly bridge]

do you full convert

i keep hearing that baked in conversion on skills is bad

[hard cliff]

FAT ASS CRIT

[worldly bridge]

so you have to find a way to get 100%

[tight plinth]

oh i was meme-ing, im very bad at attack builds

[final owl]

holy sweep looks like it has potential tbh

[worldly bridge]

ive seen a couple of sweep slayers

[hard cliff]

prob pirate lady

[gritty garnet]

you just need to get lucky with percentages on your foulborn emperor's vigilance

[worldly bridge]

i was thinking about endurance charge stacking

just because

[sterile crescent]

Aight shield crushDivine Blast levelling to Elehit league start then

[split maple]

With elehit ridiculusnes ritual may even be rly profitable first week or two

[worldly bridge]

holy shit thats a lot of armour

i just looked it up

[tight plinth]

oooooh because of blizzard crown?

[cobalt blade]

is real good because of seething fury too

[split maple]

Bc of hateful accuser

[onyx adder]

Definitely not because of blizzard crown

Ele hit scales horrendously with added flat

[tight plinth]

oh derp

[shrewd fiber]

Its hexblast mines viable at all still?

[gritty garnet]

550 es

[fathom fjord]

Nope

[worldly bridge]

yeah this too

[tight plinth]

i forgot where the ring came from

[final owl]

I hex blast got blasted

[onyx adder]

Does viable once every two seconds count

[worldly bridge]

OH WAIT

[gritty garnet]

you can try the transfigured version if you really must

[worldly bridge]

you take vigilance for the giga es

is any other shield comparable in terms of raw es?

[sterile crescent]

Ok, I admit I wanna start elehit because of deathbeam's build, but what is ridiculous about elehit actually?

[cobalt blade]

a synth 30 qual titanium beats it

but you dont have armour then for shield skills

[sterile crescent]

I also dunno how the penance mark will work, just yolo

[shrewd fiber]

I see

[split maple]

Usually it takes one element and discards other two - use combat focuses and breachlord bloodline you get all 3 as one. So triple flat damage

[tight plinth]

if i understand it correctly you usually dont get all the added damage from the skill, with the ascendancy you can

[split maple]

Add to that penance Mark and with enough aoe you get what 7 hits in single target

[worldly bridge]

oh right the idea is crit with the new shield holy skill

[cobalt blade]

ya and you use this

for 200+ crit multi

[worldly bridge]

im piece'n it all together now

[gritty garnet]

you go hybrid eva so you can also roll suppress maxres etc

[worldly bridge]

armour eva?

[gritty garnet]

they top out at around 300-400ish es and under 2k eva

[worldly bridge]

how do you get max res on rare equipment

that isnt eldritch implicits

[gritty garnet]

they're shields

[sterile crescent]

So with penance mark, you hit main target, main target release waves, and waves hit minions, minions releases waves, and all of it hit main target?

[worldly bridge]

arent we using a unique shield

im so confused

[buoyant jungle]

I suspect there might possibly be a bug where this passive does not apply to Veiled Item Bargain option.

[void oasis]

yo guys when is the jung roan interview set to happen?

[gritty garnet]

rare shields can roll these and +3 max to another

[cobalt blade]

its about 1.8k and 380 on a supreme without synths and no over qual

[worldly bridge]

oh youre talking about if you use a rare shield

[cobalt blade]

but uh for shield skills im p sure vigilance is still just better atleast in softcore

[strong totem]

I know what I'm going to play this league

[hard cliff]

it is

by far

[shrewd fiber]

Can a miner trickster get tanky? I hate dying

[hard cliff]

foulborne is good too

[odd fox]

we could do FRoSS with ES% and diamond shrine belt

[gritty garnet]

if you invest in defenses sure otherwise paper life + es won't cut it

[shrewd fiber]

What defensive layers are essential?

[hard cliff]

we?

I'm looking at absolution or miner

[split maple]

You take a bunch of nonvaal strike extra targets

Then its Just a question of keeping shrimps alive

[short prairie]

😳

[split maple]

And enough aoe to make shrimp hits also hit boss

[short prairie]

me 2

[gritty garnet]

it's the same stuff you get on any other build except you can't count on having leech

and being able to off-screen freeze helps quite a bit

[shrewd fiber]

Why cant i count on leech? Isn't a big draw of trickster the overleech ES?

[worldly bridge]

ok so im curious then

[shrewd fiber]

Or do mines not proc leech

[leaden quiver]

@fossil mural Crest of Desire Elemental Hit is the Secret Broken Build of the League
Theory

Glowy brain on reddit

Having the worst opinions known to man

[worldly bridge]

if youre using these jewels to DENY it from chosing one element how does it do damage?

[cobalt blade]

because the flat is always on the gem

[fathom fjord]

Mines don't leech, unless you use machina mitts

[cobalt blade]

its just normally dealing no damage of the type it doesnt choose

[hard cliff]

no on hit or on kill using mines

[worldly bridge]

mines are not you

[leaden quiver]

Oh god are we still going about ele hit?

[cobalt blade]

your converting that flat to cold so tis always dealing damage when you convert to cold

[shrewd fiber]

Uh oh

[worldly bridge]

im asking a mechanical question because im curious

thats all

[leaden quiver]

Oh good okay

[muted ledge]

Unless the monster dies from a DoT created by the mine.

[hard cliff]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Machina_Mitts

is the wiki barely working for you guys

[fathom fjord]

Ele hit chooses one element and does no damage of any other element, or phys, or chaos

[short prairie]

Scion is barely working for flicker

[cobalt blade]

mika^ this flat is always baseline but it only deals the chosen dmg type

[shrewd fiber]

Damn this is wild information

[cobalt blade]

breachlord makes the damage all cold you prismatic to only do cold

[worldly bridge]

so you use green blue combat focus then convert fire/lightning to cold?

[fathom fjord]

Breachlord let's you treat all added damage as cold or light, which is not conversion and bypasses the less damage modifiers on combat focus

[worldly bridge]

oh right i havent read the new breachlord

[cobalt blade]

yep

[worldly bridge]

that would be important

[leaden quiver]

And its not conversion, bypasess the mod, so you get all three of them

On one hit

[cobalt blade]

its rly silly

[leaden quiver]

Which is like 1200-3700 on level 20?

Just remember to always use skitterbots on ele hit

[hard cliff]

scion and flicker

[cobalt blade]

skitter bots brittle unseen hue and yoke for shock

[fathom fjord]

But yes, all the damage on the ele hit gem is then treated as your chosen element, which bypasses rules of conversion as well as the less damage mods on combat focus

[muted ledge]

But keep in mind ele hit is a very low range melee skill. You’ll prolly have to spend some of the $ you save on damage on QoL.

[leaden quiver]

Oh with cold breachlord skitters you can use bonechill lmao

[leaden quiver]

Just use secrets of sufferingfor brittle

[worldly bridge]

ok so now my question is what is "added damage"

[leaden quiver]

Use unseen hue for scorch

[leaden quiver]

Adds X to Y damage

[cobalt blade]

then ur losing chill/freeze dmg mult

[worldly bridge]

i rememebr in the interviews they mentioned the item mods being "local added damage but its not really 'added' damage"

[leaden quiver]

Except for the local stat on the weapon

[fathom fjord]

Cuz ele hit is coded weird

[leaden quiver]

Chill from skitters

[cobalt blade]

fair

still losing freeze/shock then from going yoke

[leaden quiver]

Freeze being lost is desired because of penance mark + southbound anyway

;)

[worldly bridge]

so what sources would this be? abyss jewels and gloves and rings and such?

[cobalt blade]

idt secrets is all that good

[worldly bridge]

support gems?

[soft perch]

very simple answer to this

[cobalt blade]

eh fuck penance mark

[leaden quiver]

Support gems

[cobalt blade]

feels bad to play imo

fair enough if you dont mind it

[leaden quiver]

Splaff I am fighting a battle here

[split maple]

Hear me out - venarious astrolabe elehit

[soft perch]

any mod on weapons = base damage, damage on spells and spell adjacent gems like prismatic burst (irony) = base damage, ele hits for some reason = added damage, everything else = added damage

[fathom fjord]

Added cold/light, abyss jewels, anything anywhere that adds x to y damage that's not on your weapon

[leaden quiver]

Important; they said gain X as extra isnt added

[worldly bridge]

interesting

[leaden quiver]

In case you were wondering

[soft perch]

correct

[fathom fjord]

Fixed ty

[worldly bridge]

so you get enough dex to proc the bloodline

[cobalt blade]

i could see it but im not sure where your getting all the influence slots

[worldly bridge]

then get as much added damage as you can

and it doesnt matter what kind

[cobalt blade]

weapon is pretty set as paradoxica

[leaden quiver]

Early frostbreath, paradoxica once u can buy one

[soft perch]

i think the breachlord bloodline is kinda shit if ur not ele hit personally

[leaden quiver]

Very shit, kinda pointless even

Unless youre doing something like... Jiquani? And you want cold damage?

[worldly bridge]

you could get added phys but becuase of breachlord it becomes added cold, which is easier to scale since youre mono damage type

[fathom fjord]

So for ele hit, no, because it has a 100% damage effectiveness and you're better off getting more multipliers for its huge base damage

[cobalt blade]

think it has potential to enable wrath for frostmage but im pretty high for trying to make that work

aura stack mana frostmage nonsense

[leaden quiver]

Oh wait its highest int for light conveet

[worldly bridge]

ohhh right because ele hit is fucked and its ONLY flat damage

[cobalt blade]

ya

[leaden quiver]

So pointless o jiquani xd

[split maple]

Gloves Hunter+warlord, redemeer+Hunter boots, slap rest on shield and one ring

[worldly bridge]

no multipliers baked in like other attacks

[cobalt blade]

hmmm maybe

could do belt too pre hh/mb/shrine belt

[soft perch]

yoke is gonna be better

[fathom fjord]

Just get a double influence mb

[split maple]

Crusader anointed belt login

[leaden quiver]

Anyway many people will bait into melee hit and have a shit leaguestart because theyre a) bad players
b) following shitty builds

Aka no skitterbots

[fathom fjord]

Also lulmelee

[leaden quiver]

Weee wee woo owhere aoe

Feels bad!!!

[soft perch]

tbh u can get away without skitters if u have multistrike once u have the breachlord

[final owl]

I have a feeling ele hit hype is going to make for a lot of league start regret 😛

[soft perch]

ele hit is a good skill

[leaden quiver]

We're talking pure early

[soft perch]

surfcaster ele hit was not a comfy build

[worldly bridge]

so instead of flat you go for + levels

[soft perch]

slayer ele hit is comfy

[worldly bridge]

for ele hit

[soft perch]

they are different

[worldly bridge]

really interesting gem

[final owl]

that doesn't mean noobs and people who don't know what they're doing aren't gonna get baited by it

[soft perch]

fair

[split maple]

Who would have thought slayer giving aoe for free matters

[soft perch]

im not super convinced by the ele hit transition with a lot of people playing it

[split maple]

Like I think I was warning folks before Phrecia 😄

[soft perch]

its pretty good for 2stone

after that i think its gonna be pricy as hell to scale

and slayer is so limited defensively

[worldly bridge]

imo i would rather play smite

[soft perch]

especially on ele hit

smite is way less damage

and worse clear

[split maple]

Cannot you do that partial convert thingie also on elehit? That hc dudes are doing

[soft perch]

make of that what u will

[sterile crescent]

Deathbeam's elehit seem tanky?

[split maple]

Just 90% fire res, take 70% cold and light as fire

[worldly bridge]

idk ive played smite on a meh budget and it felt fine

[soft perch]

https://pobb.in/pFi7xeoMoVMc im probably gonna play this

[worldly bridge]

im above a casual but not a giga-degen though

so tak that as you will

[simple stag]

how are the mine/trappers feeling this patch

[cobalt blade]

holy glad block build

[worldly bridge]

ill let you know when it updates on friday

[hoary scarab]

traps still dead

[short prairie]

I’ll fix this for you by swapping to flicker

[soft perch]

im tellin u

azadi glad is fuckin based

[fathom fjord]

Like degenerates, same as always

[cobalt blade]

personally dislike losing % on block but with only 4.5k pool it is kinda mid anyway

[hard cliff]

this is so cool

[soft perch]

aaand its dead

kekw

i dont even think it was that good

[simple stag]

lul

[tranquil sedge]

@crisp obsidian @split maple

[split maple]

Okay back to pobing zenith slaya it is

[worldly bridge]

well it was strong before breachlord

so itll be fine

[soft perch]

ye

[split maple]

Yea its ok build now

[soft perch]

ele hit still great

[split maple]

Just not busted

[short prairie]

I’ll just take the uber dan version

[soft perch]

i think the simulacrum slayer setup was better anyway

than breachlord

CAUGHT

[final owl]

well, for sure no reason now to torture myself with ele hit. so that's a plus.

[split maple]

Exactly

[tranquil sedge]

i'll take the frank comment any day over wishy washy behaviour tbh

[karmic gust]

lets go now we can continue with penance mark

[hard cliff]

did he drop a new league starter?

[soft perch]

wait actually true

negative hype into everything is cheap again

HOLY

huge

[karmic gust]

[short prairie]

No, it was the 3.26 uber dan zenith slayer

[soft perch]

ok now the build probably far more reasonable

[hard cliff]

sounds very expensive

[simple stag]

this is why you spin the wheel on launch day

[blazing nymph]

Ele hit getting nerfed btw, good luck everyone

[tranquil sedge]

yea its not like its going to be unplayable lol, ele hit is still gonna be fine

[cobalt blade]

u just play the trinity ee nonsense now dont you

[final owl]

it's going to be fine instead of disgusting in the right setup

[cobalt blade]

and its still fine

[fathom fjord]

Gimme another 20% damage on divine ire, cowards

[short prairie]

I think the weapon is the most expensive, his version doesn’t even have pof sublime

[soft perch]

ye ele hit is excellent with that setup and ur upgrades are more reasonably priced

[cobalt blade]

ya

[blazing nymph]

Exactly, and the people planning for it were playing it because they wanted something disgusting

[split maple]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mercenarieshc/character/PoEDan79-7719/DanFaithInCarn?i=0&search=name%3Ddan @hard cliff

[soft perch]

• slayer has a 40% less damage taken bloodline notable

[fathom fjord]

Wait wdym

[cobalt blade]

i rly hate howt hat blood line makes ur tree look

[soft perch]

simulacrum node

[cobalt blade]

all the 1 point and 2 point jewel sockets you just cant take

[fathom fjord]

Oh right

[soft perch]

that didnt happen

[hard cliff]

awesome

[soft perch]

its really good on slayer

cuz of the leech

[final owl]

it was the only reason i was considering it admittedly. kinda glad i can leave it on the table without feeling bad about it now tbh 😛

[blazing nymph]

Same

[strong totem]

Schizo on slayer or jugg is busted

[blazing nymph]

Sweepy sweepy without guilt

[hard cliff]

what didn't happen?

[fathom fjord]

That

[karmic gust]

looks completely reasonable wym :d

[cobalt blade]

it hurts my soul

it is a good bloodline though

[short prairie]

Might as well take the gem slot

[soft perch]

does he know

[split maple]

There isn't enough passage jewels ingame senses

Tho wouldn't thread of hope be good there?

Hits Both disciples

[cobalt blade]

technically you could use 5 threads of hope

[short prairie]

Yes

[cobalt blade]

you shouldnt but you could

[soft perch]

losing the masteries feels bad

especially the block one

[sage falcon]

rip ele hit

[main osprey]

LMFAOOOOO

[karmic gust]

yea i tried putting toh there

but it doensnt rly work

[main osprey]

i'm not gonna lie it would be absolutely fucking unbelievably easy access to super high damage

[split maple]

Charge wheel minors too good 😄

[cobalt blade]

could maybe mak 1 impossible work but eh

[craggy fiber]

https://klipy.com/gifs/keyboard-hyperx-4

[tranquil sedge]

it's still going to be a strong build, doesn't matter

[onyx adder]

💀

[tight plinth]

man this last few days before launch is so slow

[short prairie]

[soft perch]

ele hit still very strong but dont tell anyone

[onyx adder]

Now it will be cheap

[tranquil umbra]

I mean yeah it still is very strong it was just omega stupid before

[soft perch]

and tankier

and honestly a better build

i think the prismatic stuff is far more well rounded

[final owl]

i mean saying it "doesn't matter" like 100% of people running ele hit wouldn't be going for the breachlord angle if it still worked is a bit of a cope

[radiant jolt]

They say melee but bows and wands might still work

[sterile crescent]

Is elehit dead? 😭

[final owl]

it's not dead

[tranquil umbra]

oh it absolutely matters but it's not dead

[final owl]

it's just not.. the skill of the league

[lucid gale]

Elemental Hit²?

[tranquil umbra]

you could try ranged ele hit

but idk

[blazing nymph]

Different skill

[main osprey]

elehit is still a very much alive skill its just not extremely broken with little investment

[blazing nymph]

Different numbers

[void oasis]

yo death beem u play a lot of pf right, do u do pconc start ever? cause i have a question i cant find the answer to

[cobalt blade]

the ranged one doesnt have the deals only damage of x type so its base numbers are lower

and you dont actually need breachlord bloodline

[simple stag]

devs u now owe us Holy Hit

[karmic gust]

well pconc is always start on pf

[cobalt blade]

u just play it as tri ele lol

[karmic gust]

regardless of what im playing

unfortunately

[cobalt blade]

(ofc ded now )

[tranquil sedge]

did u notice andrew mentioning pconc in the interview when they were talking about skill balance lol

[lucid gale]

Melee: https://poedb.tw/us/Elemental_Hit
Ranged: https://poedb.tw/us/Elemental_Hit_of_the_Spectrum

[tranquil sedge]

something something he doesn't mind if pconc's dead

[void oasis]

sweet heres my question for u then, say you have a 4L 3 green 1 red, what are u putting into the sockets assuming ur in acts. im trying to figure out which 2 green supports are most important and which red support is most important. from what i can tell its greater volley and gmp but i cant figure out what red support to put, i always end up with a 4L with a red socket its mad annyoing 🤣 and want to be ready for 3.28

[tranquil sedge]

-# it is dead sir why is this funny :/

[karmic gust]

yeai agree with him for sure :d

[sterile crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-dont-you-dare-gif-21943972

[tranquil sedge]

pconc is a useless gem when you have pconc of bouncing, its so dumb

straight up downgrade in basically every way

surely 3.29 fixes that

[cobalt blade]

jus remove the life flask charges per proj

and now its maybe playable again

[tranquil sedge]

the funny thing is thats the change that killed the gem

they made it consume more charges than it did before that change

[cobalt blade]

yep

[karmic gust]

for red honestly just cruelty

dont think theres anything better there

[cobalt blade]

and now you can no longer gmp and lmp so it should be a bit more balanced to allow that again

and iin general higher powercreep lol

[karmic gust]

dofl if you rly cant get cruelty

[cobalt blade]

youd just be volley mp

[karmic gust]

but dofl kinda miserry

[short prairie]

I think this is a str stacker static strike shockwave league

[soft perch]

fuck am i gonna have to leaguestart bleed sunder

[tight plinth]

whats the buff on static strike beams?

[cobalt blade]

why are you shockwaving on a str stacker

[soft perch]

god

[tight plinth]

it chains farther?

[void oasis]

what is dofl?

[simple stag]

he thinks this is poe2

[karmic gust]

damage on full life

[karmic gust]

it targets further

[short prairie]

I call it the sssss build

[blazing nymph]

Sounds like a bl-under

[soft perch]

nah bleed sunder is good

it just doesnt scale super well

[heady cliff]

league suddenly changed from 45% elehit 45% kinetic fusilade to 90% kinetic fusilade

[noble sleet]

So what are tinctures?

[void oasis]

got it, and would u say for the 2 green scokets its always greater volley and greater multiple projectiles?

[tranquil sedge]

bleed sunder is fine

[short prairie]

The unique sceptre that gives you aoe per x str

[tranquil sedge]

something you can look up on the wiki

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Tincture

[karmic gust]

yea

[eager lion]

Is RF really bad for day1-2 Exarch?

[blazing nymph]

Yes but if you take out the -eed s-...

[heady cliff]

imagine the prices on warped timepiece and timeclasp

[cobalt blade]

but you could just play replica alb for all ur flat and not play shockwave?

[noble sleet]

Ty

[final owl]

for sure a bunch of people who were considering ele hit breachlord are now back to KF 😛

[short prairie]

You still want shockwave for aoe clearing

[cobalt blade]

eeh id say your static beams would do enough u shouldnt

but fair ig

[onyx adder]

Shockwave is pretty good on static tbh

I wouldnt skip it

U can take it out for bosses

[void oasis]

last question for u beam sorry if im being annyoing but say i have 2g 2b
what supports would u say.

[cobalt blade]

u have to give up going paradoxica for double dam though

[short prairie]

This tbh

[noble sleet]

Wait so what about warden tinctures? lol. Man I swear I feel I know everything on Poe 2 and understand but here, there’s always something new lmao

[tranquil sedge]

still playable

[tranquil sedge]

same thing just more uptime and effect

and also works w/ range weps

[cobalt blade]

and you get 2

[karmic gust]

blues are probs the worst slot at least when leveling when you want to level as hit/poison

its basically just added chaos and unbound right

and they are bth not super ideal

unbound is ok

[cobalt blade]

i think youd be better off playing 3g over 2g2b

[karmic gust]

but added chaos is just waste of time to get it

yea think so too

[hard cliff]

this was a good build https://youtu.be/gK9aEfCAovU

[sterile crescent]

@karmic gust I haven't check ur pob in app, but are you taking breachlord ascendancy too? What happens now that it's nerfed?

I just saw that it has 6 nodes on the slayer I think

[sterile crescent]

Was?

[karmic gust]

i had cold pob and tri ele

tri ele takes deli

no breach

cold is ded obviously now

[radiant jolt]

where the poison one?

[cobalt blade]

tri ele fuck deli go 3 ring shrine belt

[tight plinth]

so what do you even do with the breach ascendancy now 😭

[karmic gust]

if they gave us phys/chaos ele hit i would not complain for sure :d

[heady cliff]

....and people run avatar of fire instead

with funny fire pen ring

[cobalt blade]

aof's alot worse since its affected by the less dmg's of the prisms right

[karmic gust]

yea

enmity carries the difference tho

to some degree

[cobalt blade]

ye true but its alot more investment

[heady cliff]

you get x2 instead of x3 and no brittle, but you get a lot of fire pen

[karmic gust]

but without enmity its unplayable

[cobalt blade]

getting enough fire res for that is a pita eeven with fire res clusters lol

[dense roost]

I'd kinda been looking forward to doing an ele hit build tbh. It's still capable of good clear I guess. Might do it anyway.

[karmic gust]

yea you are basically just stuck to the chest

[leaden quiver]

LMAO THEY REMOVED MELEE HIT

17 MINUTES AGO

Ik late info

But lmao

Shot out the back insta

[tight plinth]

thats not news, thats olds

[finite quail]

I wish zizaran would timestamp his fucking interviews bro I don't wanna sit through the whole thing

[karmic gust]

someone was linking fire ele hit setup erlier tho and it looked good for sure at least

[leaden quiver]

@tidal lintel hitler's dead

[gentle ice]

nice, ngl i was kinda tempted playing ele hit even tho i don't really like it 😅 , now i wont 😄

[finite quail]

Does anyone have a shortened version or something

[heady cliff]

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