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cobalt blade
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smth to do with the way ele hits coded

final owl
sage falcon
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hopefully it's not a doryani's merc 2.0 kinda deal lol

cobalt blade
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it shouldnt actually wor kbut its coded in a dumb way it does

rich widget
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also is the 3 ramdom mods like super bait or is it worthwhile to go only beast specters

hard cliff
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Is their a legion of people about to play ele hit or like 3 people in here talking about it

soft perch
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i dont think ele hit is anywhere near as strong numerically as people are making it out to be

tough cove
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ele hit was greatly improved last league with the aoe increase

soft perch
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its a good skill

livid quarry
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i think lots of ppl talking bout it

soft perch
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and its probably a bit overpowered with the breach thing

hard cliff
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It's crazy this league has no temp power besides the imbues

soft perch
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but its not gamebreakingly overpowered and has a lot of flaws

cobalt blade
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because you have to take this node

hard cliff
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but maybe it's for the best

livid quarry
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doesnt it have big aoe too?

soft perch
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it has big aoe yes but ur still a melee strike build

rich widget
livid quarry
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so u good clear and high ST dmg

soft perch
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and access to defences is a little rough

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cuz a lot of its scaling comes from spamming uniques

final owl
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idk, there are a lot of changes and new things. i think I can deal with not having the equivalent of grafts

tight plinth
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What we talking about chat?

soft perch
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every ele hit build has a billion uniques

hard cliff
soft perch
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admirals arrogance is going to be VERY expensive

cobalt blade
tough cove
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it was expensive last league for a bit

soft perch
past mantle
tough cove
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or at least the good ones were

soft perch
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aware

tight plinth
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Stash sale is almost always a week after a league launch

past mantle
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Even if it ain't, you save for it.

cobalt blade
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less people will be running kingsmarch with the changes to ores/crops

final owl
cobalt blade
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less shippers=less admirals arrogance

soft perch
cobalt blade
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yea

tough cove
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there will be more shippers this league

tight plinth
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Regardless of when the last sale was

sage falcon
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the belt weighting is prob going to be diabolical

cobalt blade
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there will not because you have to actually interact with kingsmarch for it

soft perch
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slayer ele hit is comfy as hell tho people have a very warped perception of it cuz of surfcaster being complete pain

cobalt blade
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personally gonna be ignoring it entirely kek

livid quarry
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i dunno. just halve ur dmg and build more def

sage falcon
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get ready for 90% of them being the useless ones like the offensive being ice nova

tough cove
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some will ignore it, but ore is a good mechanic for adding mobs (or extra modifiers) regardless of the rest of it

short prairie
livid quarry
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dunno why u need sione ambition if not penance mark

tough cove
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and its not super point intensive

final owl
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I am not even thinking about the new belt. The amount of people I see talking about it like they're definitely going to get one with their preferred shrine rolls on it is... way way higher than I believe it will be.

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
slow sonnet
cobalt blade
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but yeah i do feel like people are overestimating themself for it lol

final owl
cobalt blade
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love going multi mirror bla

slow sonnet
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NVM abyssus isn't good for ele hit

tight plinth
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Nah its not even uber version of the boss, there are going to be tons of them in trade

final owl
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yeah like shako

cobalt blade
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but there will be a bunch of different rolls lol

tight plinth
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Thats what i mean, league bosses are a joke

final owl
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and 85% of them will be crap junk nobody wants 😛

cobalt blade
tough cove
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you would do replica abyssus and im pretty sure heatshiver is simply better

cobalt blade
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like this is a defence/offence shrine combo

slow sonnet
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Eh true

sage falcon
tough cove
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if your going the unique route. but aura helm is likely best in slot

soft perch
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and heatshiver is terrible for ele hit

short prairie
soft perch
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it doesnt do anything

slow sonnet
cobalt blade
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no hat at all is better than abyssus/heatshiver

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(you wont run dance with death but it is just better than either of them)

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some rare hat prob best

soft perch
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ye rares good

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https://pobb.in/fqECNW3sKqLP this doesnt even have capped chaos res, you can probs get it with some changes but thats for future me to figure out cuz i cba

slow sonnet
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TBF crits being lucky against you sounds rough

short prairie
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Anyssus lowering max hit is kind of cringe but if you kill fast then those don’t matter anyway

karmic gust
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a lot less ms than i expected with 50% action speed

soft perch
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or future deathbeam

karmic gust
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but i guess not having quicksilver

cobalt blade
karmic gust
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does that to you

cobalt blade
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thats pretty legit with hue yeah

tough cove
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except melee hit is a melee strike build (that doesnt have absurd strike range like some strike skills) so abyssus is usually a death sentence eventually

soft perch
slow sonnet
tough cove
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like you can get away with it on like katabasis builds because you hit things from another zip code

soft perch
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echoing shrine probs strictly better than accel

slow sonnet
karmic gust
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3rd ring for adrenaline

tight plinth
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Is there a fire version of the breach ascendancy? Or just light or cold?

karmic gust
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also makes the ms implicti on boots better than action speed

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
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just break the game for 2 bloodlines

karmic gust
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if there was fire

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now that would be good

tight plinth
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Balls

mystic socket
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is this autobomber league

tight plinth
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Yesnt

mystic socket
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with belt diamond shrine + new +6 on helm

simple stag
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which autobomber

slow sonnet
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IDK they killed Elementalist meta

warm musk
tight plinth
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Every league is an auto bomber league

karmic gust
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elementalist is far from killed i think

cobalt blade
karmic gust
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well maybe it wont be popular

slow sonnet
cobalt blade
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otherwise its gonna feel so ass without move speed

karmic gust
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but i think its still very strong

cobalt blade
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which mayb the 100% more cast speed on its own is enough

mystic socket
slow sonnet
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The golem stacker meta got nuked

short prairie
tough cove
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golem 2 is still the best first ascendancy and while you might age out of it, elementalist is still a VERY good ascendancy and still the best witch ascendancy

tight plinth
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Nuked is a strong word kek

cobalt blade
tight plinth
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More like slap on the wrist

slow sonnet
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Eh true, I guess it wasn't that big of a deal

simple stag
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personally was thinking of CWDT with proj spells dessicated+wine of prophet but i can never get it to a safe EHP

tough cove
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Its still one of if not the best first lab node int he game

cobalt blade
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like ignite immune for ignite loopers or extra pdr for minion ones

mystic socket
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i had a build that was pretty cheap with 90k phys max hit and 150k ele but it relied heavily on 3 semi expensive items

simple stag
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and if u can imbue all the different CWDT links sounded pretty good in my head

warm musk
cobalt blade
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or avoid damage

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which i think applies to self hit but not completely sure there admitedly

mystic socket
cobalt blade
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p sure wine is just bad though

simple stag
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yeah thats the other problem so the other idea was spellslinger dessicate+wine imbued gems

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idfk

cobalt blade
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this for sure bricks

simple stag
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something that goes well with the belt, flask, and has a lot of main skills

tough cove
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i guess im gonna be boring and go cpath slayer

mystic socket
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as in consecrated path?

tough cove
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yeah

mystic socket
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HELL YEAH

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is it gonna be somewhat meta

cobalt blade
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oh also trub i just realized you said dessicated belt

past mantle
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I think I finally do my poison minion build.

cobalt blade
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you should go reread it

mystic socket
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because of the buff

cobalt blade
past mantle
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Just been sleeping on it for so long. 💤

soft perch
slow sonnet
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I'll probably go ED/CON occultist

simple stag
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oh yeah

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LUL

soft perch
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catch 33 is the best meshuggah album

past mantle
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Buffs to Bino's help a lot tbh.

mystic socket
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consecrated path = best skill in the game

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yes it is

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im buying the anniversary version for rsd

soft perch
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growing up is realising they peaked there

slow sonnet
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And swap to FR of soul sacrifice

soft perch
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so many good riffs

mystic socket
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catch 33 and chaosphere for me

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i dont really like obzen except a few tracks

soft perch
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honourable mention to I

mystic socket
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combustion, dancers,

soft perch
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combustion is best song on that album for sure

mystic socket
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title track is fantastic

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my personal favorite is vsor

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but c33 and chaosphere i think are top

soft perch
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i think demiurge is their best song

mystic socket
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im in the middle of learning random ass songs by opeth on my guitar rn

soft perch
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ive seen them live a few times and it always hits different

mystic socket
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ive yet to see them

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i want to really bad

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whyd you bring up meshuggah? lol

mental violet
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for the fully miraged maps snap brought up such a good point of unrealized potential. After clicking your last altar theirs usually very little left to kill in the map to realize its bonus and now there's an entirely copied zone with all your altar mods???

soft perch
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i wanted to see what ur stupid pfp was and saw the disenchantment line

mystic socket
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oh

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do you like my pfp

karmic gust
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ok with dawnbreaker

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looks better

soft perch
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didnt know if it said beta or restart

karmic gust
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the max hits

mystic socket
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GET THAT PHYS UP

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HOLY SHIT

karmic gust
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but pain to actually setup

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the phys is fine

mystic socket
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whats the budget for this

soft perch
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do u rly think its that worth vs this

simple stag
# cobalt blade you should go reread it

okay so TECHNICAALLLYY unless they change how it works you could apply the flask for the buff and then do some manual toggle to remove the rarity flask effect to keep the shrines up

cobalt blade
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does wine persist outside of the flask buff?

karmic gust
mystic socket
cobalt blade
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but still sounds bad lol

soft perch
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inescapable

drowsy eagle
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how do I league start antiquarian UHM

simple stag
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the buff persists outside of the flask effect

soft perch
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holy

simple stag
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i just tested

cobalt blade
soft perch
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100% reduced flask duration wine of the prophet tech

cobalt blade
mystic socket
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just play not that

simple stag
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yeah warden double tincture + manual toggle wine ummmmmmmmmmm

mental violet
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i've still never wore a win of the prophet 🙁

mystic socket
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only need 1 portal ever but map take u longer

simple stag
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u definitely need to try it

mystic socket
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ill take that over 6 portal defense on faster clear

soft perch
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can u actually reduce flask duration by 100%

simple stag
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no you just toggle by double clicking the flask effect off

cobalt blade
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basically unplayable

onyx adder
tight plinth
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Do you combat focus elehit with breach ascend?

onyx adder
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Clearly ggg hasnt published any more actual spoilers

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XDD

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
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theres basically no sources of stackable reduced flask duration its just reduced duration on specific flasks

soft perch
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it would work with wine of the prophet if you could

cobalt blade
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(and theres sources of less duration but those are multiplicative so bad)

mental violet
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if its not hard to use screams and wine wouldnt wine go to the moon

cobalt blade
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Ya

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but it requires you to unequip so it wont

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Thats too ass to do

onyx adder
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Can u reduce buff duration to 0

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No right

cobalt blade
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not that i know off

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Its just buffs expire faster which halves buff duration at 100%

proud gorge
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alright, concept

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Gluttinous Tide Reliquarian with Terminus Est

cobalt blade
proud gorge
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good source of frenzy charge on hit

karmic gust
cobalt blade
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or you could use farruls fur and generate full charges

proud gorge
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plus you actually generate more frenzy charges than you spend

cobalt blade
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constantly

mental violet
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someone will figure out how to break reliquarian with 2 points 30% ms

proud gorge
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per attack

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Farrul's Fur limits you to only a few attacks per second

soft perch
proud gorge
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since it's duration-based

soft perch
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and click the onslaught nodes

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since theyre not bad lowkey

cobalt blade
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are you getting more than 5 aps or whatever it is

loud zenith
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Yo why my chaos resestins is not going down than 42-

mystic socket
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what build is this for

proud gorge
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whereas Terminus Est node lets you maintain Gluttinous Tide at any attack speed

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and also generate excess frenzy charges for other purposes

cobalt blade
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but your losing damage by not playing any other ascend

proud gorge
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it's probably a Barrage build

cobalt blade
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and you can still sustain charges fine with farruls if you take reduced dura stuff

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like bows dont have great attack speed scaling vectors

proud gorge
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eh, Gluttinous Tide wants to consume all your frenzy charges on every attack

karmic gust
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is going from 50 to 65 spell block worth 3 points

karmic gust
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because i can just reserve tempest shield

proud gorge
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which means you'd need to be getting frenzy from Farrul's for basically every attack

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maybe every two if you get lucky with the Gluttinous Tide frenzy on crit generation

loud zenith
soft perch
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@karmic gust btw the armour and evasion charge mastery on the onslaught cluster gives 20k armour

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actually not bad at all

proud gorge
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Gluttinous Tide really wants you to be spending all your frenzy charges on every attack

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and thus the best way to use it is to chain all the extra projectiles into more hits into more frenzy charge on hit generation

karmic gust
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oh nice

proud gorge
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or in this case on crit

karmic gust
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ok max hits

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playable

onyx adder
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This patch so boring db is pobbing straight melee

proud gorge
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and I looked into it a while back, but there's no good way to get 100% frenzy charge on crit, or even really a sustainable level of frenzy charge on crit, normally

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so getting this Terminus Est node is like the only real way to get that

karmic gust
onyx adder
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Not even playing poison melee hit smh

cobalt blade
onyx adder
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For the sexy 0dps

cobalt blade
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its a very boring gem as an exceptional and they did say they culled those

onyx adder
karmic gust
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but yea i guess you are right

onyx adder
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Just slowly take away the fun stuff for being less efficient

soft perch
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woke pen exists i think

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i saw it on the list of gems

cobalt blade
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hmm

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I dont remember seeing it but maybe

soft perch
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there was like

cobalt blade
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worth checking that image i guess

karmic gust
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wort thing is that i am literarlly

soft perch
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a sliding part of the stream showing a ton of gems

cobalt blade
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Yeah

karmic gust
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reserving tempest shield to save 1 point

cobalt blade
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i dont remember seeing it there but mightve missed it

soft perch
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can get mana reservation

karmic gust
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oh true

soft perch
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and shock pantheon

karmic gust
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but does that even help me

soft perch
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idk

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might do

cobalt blade
karmic gust
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lvl 20 precision and vitality i guess

blazing nymph
soft perch
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oh yea true

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tempest shield gives shock immunity

winged dagger
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how bullshit is ele hit going to be, i wanted to do zenith this league but its sounding really powerful how roughly does it compare?

cobalt blade
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like greater multistrike used multi strike art but blue hue

granite nexus
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sup guys. so we all playing ele hit slayers this league?

winged dagger
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its either slayer or jugg for me, im still trying to decide...

cobalt blade
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and pen would be a greater gem if it does exist

blazing nymph
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No, i'm going to play holy sweep slayer for a week before discovering i can't make it work and pivoting to ele hit slayer

cobalt blade
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personally doubt tho

onyx adder
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Sweep looks playable if unexciting

wintry lily
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aight math lads, how undead is mamba now

winged dagger
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holy sweep looks fun

onyx adder
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Writhing jar gigacopium notwithstanding

wintry lily
proud gorge
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poison-based mamba just got a 30% attack speed nerf

cobalt blade
wintry lily
proud gorge
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so it's still good, just a bit weaker

onyx adder
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Dont play mamba

proud gorge
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while hit-based mamba did take a very large hit

cobalt blade
wintry lily
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I mean I played it last league

proud gorge
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justifiably

onyx adder
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But if u do i wont make fun of u

wintry lily
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It's very mediocre

onyx adder
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Only when u die to attacking too slow

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I make fun of that

wintry lily
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Sir I only die because I took 20 altars that kills me for breathing.

cobalt blade
onyx adder
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Imma try to make an alternative low tol setup with the new sword

wintry lily
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But nah not interested in mamba

onyx adder
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Its probably okay

wintry lily
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just needed to know how its state is

cobalt blade
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they made it so mamba cant infilict additional poisons

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New sword is ass for it

onyx adder
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Yea

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U have to use other skill

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Like normie viper strike or similar

cobalt blade
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ah alternate is in diff skill fair ye

soft perch
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@karmic gust accuracy is also a bit better than taking all of the cluster

granite nexus
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gonna bring back pestilient strike

onyx adder
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Or just build it as multiple hits and run sadism

tight plinth
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Chat, what do we think about ele hit gen cry?

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I wanna get om this elehit train

karmic gust
cobalt blade
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why play it as gencry

karmic gust
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was kinda overkill

onyx adder
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It probably works but is there any particular reason u want to click nerfed autoexertion

tight plinth
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Im lazy

cobalt blade
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fair

soft perch
karmic gust
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ah

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hmm i guess because of the crit multi seed

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ok

soft perch
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its a bit less flat life ig

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yea ok also that lul

karmic gust
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ideally the cluster would also be better right

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i just put some shti roll there

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kinda

soft perch
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ye

prime needle
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ye emiracle says cws chieftain fine

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worse early simulacrums and pretty much doesnt matter otherwise

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just have to run ulti until your gear can run simulacrum

onyx adder
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Isnt that a problem when the main reason u play the build is to hit up simulacrum early

prime needle
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maybe

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just harder to kill kosis etc

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bc u cant refresh the ign anymore

onyx adder
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Ofc

granite nexus
prime needle
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however

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simu later farm is prob higher value now

simple stag
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i tried cws once and i fuckin hated it tbh

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glad it got nerfed so i can hate it more

prime needle
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with the removal of 84 clusters elsewhere

onyx adder
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Cws is one of those setups like flicker and cyclone where if u like it it becomes ur obsession and if u hate it then its a mystery why anyone touches it

prime needle
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might try it on league start for this league

onyx adder
prime needle
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haven't played it before so figuring out if it's dead before i do

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looks like it's basically fine. ultimatum is my fave farm when i've played in phrecia

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been debating between running a bosser ala manaman or cws for ulti

simple stag
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like even if u imagine it as an autobomber it is the clunkiest shittiest one

granite nexus
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im not sure if i sated my flicker appetite in phrecia

soft perch
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@karmic gust btw there is one actual genuine issue with this build that ive spotted

cobalt blade
soft perch
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i lied actually

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ignore me

simple stag
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I like ulti too, but if I do it again in Mirage I'm definitely just going to go with a tanky totem build this time

prime needle
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but then u also have to be a valdo runner

cobalt blade
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I pretty regularly dropped decent i84 clusters running them lmao

soft perch
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going fresh into a boss in terms of frenzy charges might feel bad tho

prime needle
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which budget is much higher

cobalt blade
soft perch
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its gonna take a long time to build them up

prime needle
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would be stunned to see people target famring 84 clusters in valdos

cobalt blade
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And have bad uniques

karmic gust
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yea both frenzies and endus

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idk if thers good solution for that

cobalt blade
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like you can just run a 100% deli t17 with basically nothing else roughly equivalent to alched deli t16

empty bronze
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ele hit is gonna be bad for the economy right?

soft perch
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ele hit is not as good as people are making it out to be

empty bronze
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although i do think a bunch of people will bounce off before they get the bloodline

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because its feels clunky

soft perch
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i mean its not tanky without investment

simple stag
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yeah its a boatload of funneled flat damage with skill level

soft perch
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ele hit is rly not that clunky on slayer

empty bronze
simple stag
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i would play it but ele hit is an ugly skill bla

soft perch
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and

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is mamba clunky

empty bronze
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yes

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its a strike

soft perch
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???

wintry lily
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any clunkiness is gone with how fat the aoes are

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also attack speed in general

empty bronze
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strikes have a level of inherent clunkiness

cobalt blade
wintry lily
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that you can usually scale out of, yes.

empty bronze
cobalt blade
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strikes feel real good with atk speed

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and not clunky

empty bronze
soft perch
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strikes dont have a level of inherent clunkiness lol u just hit and an extra strike hits a mob and blows the screen up

karmic gust
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strikes are way less clunky than slams

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for example

cobalt blade
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^^

prime needle
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give me LS meta back

soft perch
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u dont even have to aim

prime needle
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give me 2 more years of it

empty bronze
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slams feel good to me

soft perch
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idk how anyone can genuinely say mamba was clunky

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its like the most smoothbrain build ever

empty bronze
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like not in terms of strength

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but like game feel

cobalt blade
empty bronze
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yknow

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big wave of hit

onyx adder
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U all should play earthshatter of fragility

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Best slam now

cobalt blade
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eq of amp

onyx adder
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10/10 would play again no manual warcry bullshit

simple stag
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vfos with aoe stack used to be just a ranged skill

cobalt blade
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go for 1 minute per damage

soft perch
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the only clunkiness of mamba was everything that surrounded it not the actual skill

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i didnt even know it was possible to consider mamba clunky to clear with

cobalt blade
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lotta that goes away with 3m binos too

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Youll just clear a whole screen

karmic gust
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i mean you do that with 1.5m prolif already

cobalt blade
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just a bit of added clunkiness for lower aps

cobalt blade
onyx adder
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Well it'll be 30% clunkier now

cobalt blade
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but ye

onyx adder
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Well i suppose actually 43% more clunk

cobalt blade
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juicier the content more likely you clear a whole screen with 1.5

hard cliff
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@cobalt blade
Juicy fruit

barren shell
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One thing i am sure it will improve the game alot is putting prices next to items on the ground..

cobalt blade
hard cliff
simple stag
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prices tf, before we get mass looting?

onyx adder
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The last thing we need is more text on ground loot

cobalt blade
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^fuck screen clutter

onyx adder
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If they could just all be textless boxes by color

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I would be happy

simple stag
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people r out on the streets suffering from scroll bind

soft perch
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@karmic gust i just realised lol

wintry lily
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Nah bro, just give me a singular letter for every item

soft perch
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the claw ele hit ppl were playing had 1.1m strike range

wintry lily
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fuck seeing

karmic gust
soft perch
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thrusting sword and slayer has 1.7m

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which is further than siones on dagger mamba

barren shell
wintry lily
karmic gust
#

why were ppl playing claw ele hit wtf

soft perch
barren shell
#

And its so good

soft perch
#

xdd

karmic gust
#

lol

wintry lily
#

thought suffering with bad builds is my job

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wtf

granite nexus
cobalt blade
#

Its needless screen clutter when you can just look at the item

barren shell
onyx adder
cobalt blade
#

and would make looting a complete pita

simple stag
#

Criminal I need to know, are you using a loot filter?

onyx adder
#

One point six eight attacks per second

soft perch
dreamy charm
cobalt blade
soft perch
#

am i correct on how siones works

onyx adder
#

DB out here wishing fist of war applied to strikes

barren shell
cobalt blade
#

But also different game

karmic gust
#

yea gotta make attack speed daggers now :d

wintry lily
#

practically playing slams at that point with how slow it is

soft perch
#

its just base weapon range ignoring additional weapon range

#
  • 1.4
karmic gust
#

actually

cobalt blade
soft perch
#

so siones with dagger was 1.4m reach

cobalt blade
#

and clones dont scale with weapon range iirc

karmic gust
#

i just get multistrike from the gem thingy

#

ez fix to attackk speed

barren shell
slow sonnet
brazen vector
karmic gust
simple stag
#

omg items are already organized by their rarity/price you know when it shings that means money?

karmic gust
#

also i cant anyway beause i use warcries

cobalt blade
#

that bubble name looks weird without a name colour btw

karmic gust
#

sadge

cobalt blade
#

It looks so off white

slow sonnet
#

True, I guess some strike skills don't use it

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But 99% of strike builds use it for the atk speed

forest drift
#

How do u get this

soft perch
onyx adder
#

Ambush doesnt work on two handed sword

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Why does ambush not work on two handed sword

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Let me clonk people

granite nexus
karmic gust
#

lmao i thought it just works with everything

brazen vector
cobalt blade
simple stag
cobalt blade
#

completely unrelated to weapon range

cobalt blade
karmic gust
#

yea clones dont scale with anything

cobalt blade
#

glorpless ):

wintry lily
karmic gust
#

other than single clone scaling stat

cobalt blade
wintry lily
#

yknow what, fair enough

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roll a persuasion check

soft perch
karmic gust
#

is base

soft perch
#

'The base maximum appears to be approximately 3.5 metres' wait it actually is

cobalt blade
soft perch
#

isnt 3.5m fuckin huge

cobalt blade
#

yup

soft perch
#

wtf do u need siones for then

karmic gust
#

well yea with ancestrarl qual quality and siones you can hit stuff at other side of the screen

cobalt blade
#

getting close to offscreen targetting

soft perch
#

neat

karmic gust
#

as its linear scaling

cobalt blade
#

Because why would your melee skill be melee

soft perch
#

i think theres approximately 0% chance i dont just put ancestral call in links

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defo playing strike gloves until i get admirals arrogance

cobalt blade
#

if theres a greater one with extra range youd 100% do it for clear

soft perch
#

or never using them tbh

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there is a greater ancestral call

cobalt blade
#

Yeah 100% worth

karmic gust
#

well the extra range is on qual right

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i assume it will stay on greater

cobalt blade
#

Ya

karmic gust
#

but maybe they give extra

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that would be cool

onyx adder
#

It was common as shit in its own league

cobalt blade
#

no just less people will be shipping

soft perch
#

and demand will shoot up again

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and less shipping will happen

cobalt blade
#

less people also shipped in keepers/phrecia than settlers

onyx adder
#

I just figured it would be easier than strike gloves

onyx adder
#

But i didnt think it would be so bad that u would need to plug with strike gloves for a day

soft perch
karmic gust
#

you just need to fail some of your shipments intentionally and you get it no

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or idk wtf is the boss

cobalt blade
#

Nah

cobalt blade
#

Boss is unrelated to shipment fail

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Its just % chance to show up

onyx adder
#

Its just rng

karmic gust
#

ah ok

slow sonnet
#

Just send shipments and you'll get it

brazen vector
#

I got the gloves for the first time since settlers last week

cobalt blade
#

Tbf phrecia didnt rly move past day 2-3 economy

onyx adder
#

Dw reddit will misbuild ele hit unless a streamer gives em a build

cobalt blade
#

it will be cheaper in actual league prolly

soft perch
#

so it will probably be cooked still

brazen vector
#

Pootoo

soft perch
#

at least ele hit hits entire screen on slayer

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so probably cant go wrong

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unlike surfcaster which was pure pob only build

elfin shale
#

fuuuck i thought i cracked the code with Fleshrender Pestilent Strike but PS doesnt accept swords

simple stag
#

oh god there are gonna be so many ele hit players arent there..

wintry lily
#

Someone should pull a fyregrass this league start

elfin shale
#

oh well

karmic gust
wintry lily
#

oh fuck oh god

simple stag
rich widget
#

is a impale build better on slayer or champion?

karmic gust
#

best build

wintry lily
#

the deathbeam special

simple stag
karmic gust
#

no clue :d

simple stag
#

remember 1 per gear VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

tranquil umbra
#

I will not though because that shit sounds boring

karmic gust
#

yea. oh btw i was talking with you about the imbued swift affliction right

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i think they prertty much confirmed that will work on the interview

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idk i was talking about it with someone for sure

final owl
#

ele hit sounds like it will likely be disgusting but i've played enough builds that don't feel "good" to play I think. I might have to go KF anyway

simple stag
tranquil umbra
#

is that an mtx

karmic gust
#

i doubt ele hit will feel any worse to play than KF totems

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its just strike with big aoe

tranquil umbra
#

I mean I do not doubt at all that it will be good to play

simple stag
tranquil umbra
#

I just don't want

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another melee build

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hell I might do ssf with pyroclast mines reliquarian

final owl
onyx adder
tranquil umbra
onyx adder
#

Im still thinking about hiero spell totems

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Im in if i can find a skill to actually put in the spell totem

zinc lily
#

anyone planning on playing bleed bow?

onyx adder
#

Current options suck

final owl
#

because I will play the version that has late game scaling options and isn't totems. self cast KF feels good.

tranquil umbra
#

sure

granite nexus
#

shockwave totems still good right?

tranquil umbra
#

I'll play totems

onyx adder
#

See above

karmic gust
cobalt blade
tight plinth
#

Gc of fissure?

simple stag
#

totem totems are gonna be good

tight plinth
#

^

onyx adder
#

Storm burst clears like potato and shockwave is zdps

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Celery flameblast is unironically better than both

cobalt blade
#

its an actual legit spell totem build rn

onyx adder
#

And when im considering that skill u know we're cooked

tight plinth
#

Celery looks decent

karmic gust
simple stag
#

storm burst is gonna clear faster with twice the emergence speed and the quick channeling buf

soft perch
simple stag
#

i was thinking of storm burst, is it really not that good for map with the buffs?

soft perch
#

its dps does not scale well after 2 stones without buying expensive jewellery

cobalt blade
#

swap to a str stack setup

rich widget
#

is there a cap to how many impales yoi can have on a enemies and can you proc your minions impales?

cobalt blade
soft perch
#

cuz its very limited by duration

tight plinth
#

Only 1 stone now kek

karmic gust
# simple stag storm burst is gonna clear faster with twice the emergence speed and the quick c...

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Reliquarian is FULLY REVEALED in this interview.
In this interview they discuss mechanics, balance insights, design principles, and much more regarding PoE 3.28 and more.

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soft perch
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yes ele hit has expensive uniques but u can use so many different random setups

karmic gust
#

found it

tranquil umbra
onyx adder
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But given that base storm burst has aoe problems on top of its delay problems im not rly in

craggy fiber
#

something to take note on imbued gem support. it will affect the item skill too
ie= death oath deaths aura instead of putting 6 support to the armor. you put 1 spell chaos skill imbued with lvl 1 support which can affect the skill and death aura. the other 5 support also affect both skill
instead of 1 death aura with 100% dmg you get 2 skill with maybe 80-90% damage=160-180% damage

karmic gust
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supports everything in the links

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so acts basically like if you had the support straight up socketed there

simple stag
#

that is huge

wintry lily
rich widget
karmic gust
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i dont think you can get exceptionals

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right

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idk

craggy fiber
cobalt blade
karmic gust
#

but also

rich widget
#

dam

karmic gust
#

what would be the point of level 1 empower

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lmao

soft perch
cobalt blade
#

and itll support your chest sockets with imbued

simple stag
#

but just think about the CWDT that's so many skill links

#

have mercy

wintry lily
karmic gust
#

and then have second imbued in chest?

craggy fiber
cobalt blade
onyx adder
#

Warped timepiece is like a tier 5 unique right

odd fox
#

i really hope one of the GGG challenge objective is just reach level 67 instead of 100

karmic gust
#

that could be funny

cobalt blade
soft perch
#

even if its common

craggy fiber
soft perch
#

they still have a variable roll range

craggy fiber
#

the armror support wont affect the skill on amulet

karmic gust
soft perch
#

cuz everyone was playing kf early league

onyx adder
#

T4 apparently

soft perch
#

u underestimate the impact of when tons of people play the same thing

#

even common shit gets pricy

onyx adder
#

And yea i appreciate its got rolls

final owl
#

thing is you don't need perfect rolled warped timepeice, or any of the reduced duration uniques, to make it good.

onyx adder
#

But t4 uniques are usually pretty free pretty quick

soft perch
#

no like legit day 1 timeclasp over 17% will be 2-3 div

desert tendon
simple stag
#

the amount of nonsense im going to do with imbued gems... yeah this is gonna be insane

soft perch
#

day 1-3

craggy fiber
cobalt blade
rich widget
craggy fiber
#

nvm says socketed support

onyx adder
#

I cant remember the last time u guys had a t4 unique valuable early

cobalt blade
#

fucking pyre

craggy fiber
#

yeah become 8l but you cannot use skill gem in amulet

onyx adder
#

But t3s happen all the time and they were usually 1div early then double digit chaos in day 3-5

karmic gust
onyx adder
#

Cold iron point and shit like that

karmic gust
#

i was so annoyed

craggy fiber
jagged raven
#

all equipment to currency monster is more common
how does it work?

soft perch
rich widget
#

was the dom blow buffs huge?

cobalt blade
karmic gust
#

nah fyregrass is lovely ts poison dude :d

wintry lily
#

fyregrass if he only made pf ts poison league start and not occu

karmic gust
#

but curses op wym

#

its clear as day

granite nexus
#

oh yeah i remember he had a buffed curse on hit enfeeble on the 1sec duration rain of arrows boots lol

#

not terribly reliable i guess

wintry lily
#

I mean, he's guaranteed 1 proc.

#

at least.

onyx adder
#

That one will be annoying

granite nexus
#

i cant believe they murdered cobra lash

cobalt blade
#

speaking of timeclasp its kinda sad they made the version on reliq not have reduced dura :c

#

you just get the fucking glorius madness boots mitigation

desert tendon
#

Damn people still talking about fyregrass build lol. That shit was so bad it ended his career kek

karmic gust
#

well it ould be kinda annoying for glorious madness enthusiasts right

soft perch
#

btw i regret to say it

soft perch
#

i think astrolabes look ass

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ass gameplay

cobalt blade
#

shouldnt mess them up at all excluding any specific skills that hate it

soft perch
#

each map in the blob has different mods

cobalt blade
soft perch
#

u actually cant just random map blob

onyx adder
#

I hate reduced duratiom

cobalt blade
#

i dont wanna mouse over 5 maps

final owl
#

I am reserving new atlas stuff judgement until I get to play it.

karmic gust
wintry lily
onyx adder
#

Anything that gets in the way of my guard skill uptime is personally offensive

wintry lily
#

or does it not work the way I think it does

soft perch
cobalt blade
#

guardskills overrated

soft perch
#

u have 8 maps with 8 variable mods

karmic gust
#

well thats one thing i dont like most about KF

soft perch
#

lets say 4 of them are fucking useless

karmic gust
#

reduced duration stacking is max anti qol build

pine totem
#

guys where do the Ele hit guys get exposure from to use elemental equalibrum

#

from glove eldritch implicits?

soft perch
#

if u run a map and it removes the useless ones, all ur maps now gain the useless mod

cobalt blade
soft perch
#

compared to

fathom fjord
soft perch
#

u can run a good mod

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and now all ur maps have the good mod

pine totem
#

wait

fathom fjord
#

@soft perch what're you cooking this league

final owl
#

is it? KF felt like it had great QoL in phrecia 2. shrug

soft perch
potent bramble
wintry lily
cobalt blade
#

and running that bad map with keystone might end up causing you to remove running your good map so youll have to remove that keystone to run that 1 map

wintry lily
#

well im not planning on running astrolabes anyways

pine totem
cobalt blade
#

and thats just tedious as hell

fathom fjord
pine totem
#

why every ele hit trinity build tick that key note

karmic gust
#

because EE gives exposure

pine totem
#

im build illiterate

soft perch
#

i might play ele hit, but im not convinced by the survivability or the mid level scaling with a bunch of people playing it

karmic gust
#

just read the keystone

pine totem
#

oh

karmic gust
#

it has no prerequirement of exposure

fathom fjord
# pine totem how do that works

when you hit with fire, EE gives you exposure to cold/light, next hit will be with cold (for instance), EE gives you exposure to fire/light

pine totem
#

so it doesnt require exposure already right?

wintry lily
fathom fjord
granite nexus
#

i mean its a melee slayer, its going to be fairly tanky

karmic gust
#

melee slayer is not tanky

pine totem
#

i see i see i was tripping because i thought it need the initial exposure

cobalt blade
pine totem
#

i see

soft perch
#

and it kinda has to

fathom fjord
pine totem
#

ty somuch brother @fathom fjord @karmic gust

true flower
#

wait does this somehow work with blood sacrament?

final owl
true flower
soft perch
karmic gust
cobalt blade
#

your already getting so much flat from blood that its bad

soft perch
#

yes just ff the glad node

pine totem
#

welp everybody and their mother is running ele hit i guess

final owl
#

I mean I use the 5% life on block implicit, not svalinn, but sure

pine totem
#

i guess i just stick with my frostblades DivineOrbSad

soft perch
#

@fathom fjord i think the the zaresh ascendancy has a bleed, poison and ignite node based on the art

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if so i might play bleed reliquarian

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cuz that just seems solid as hell if so

fathom fjord
soft perch
fathom fjord
#

oh wait the league mech has a bloodline?

final owl
#

mirage bloodline

fathom fjord
#

i was stuck adulting during league info release

pine totem
#

i saw a video and thought it look cool

soft perch
#

i might be cooked, looks like bleed ignite and poison

final owl
#

i don't think we have details for it yet?

pine totem
#

but then the new interview dropped

fathom fjord
#

where TF am i gonna get defense on a reliquarian tho

soft perch
fathom fjord
soft perch
#

oh then idk

#

lul

#

click brass dome anyway

#

xdd

granite nexus
#

wait, can cold EH apply shock with yoke? I thought prismatic choice locked out other ele ailments

karmic gust
#

it locks elements

potent bramble
#

@soft perch - If I'm understanding everything that Octavian and Andrew said in the Q&A on Ziz's stream, then:

  1. The modifiers added by Astrolabes should be either tied to whatever mechanic they're for (IE getting Harvest mods for Harvest astrolabe) or they'll be generic juicing modifiers like % quant, % pack size, etc. The teaser showed a mix of both, but I don't think they confirmed any specific numbers on that
  2. The modifiers sound like they're random for each map, and each time you run a map in the blob it'll add a new random modifier to each other map. It does not sound like you're running a map to put that map's modifier on all the other maps in the blob.

Separately, Astrolabes function in addition to normal Atlas, Scarab, and map-item stat juice, which is a relevant thing to be considering as well. They're a win-more system, not a get-to-the-win system

karmic gust
#

not ailments

#

so yes

hexed mountain
granite nexus
fathom fjord
hexed mountain
#

+2 to pyroclast isnt worth as much as giga defenses

granite nexus
#

oh nm

hexed mountain
#

Global defences

soft perch
#

if u have one really good map maybe u wanna save it idk

karmic gust
granite nexus
dreamy charm
#

there an updated gc mines build ?

onyx adder
soft perch
#

who the hell is clicking armour nodes anyway

onyx adder
#

Its not a huge investment on scion

#

And if ur there ur clicking soul of steel and maxres prolly

#

Which gives u enough armour

tight plinth
#

when do we usually see the challenge rewards?

onyx adder
#

Dont bash

potent bramble
#

I deff do think that if you're trying to super min-max on juice, you wanna save your most impactful scarabs for the last map or two, so you can scale the numbers to the most extreme. But also based on what they were saying, you don't really stress about using Astrolabes until you've already gotten a solid setup because IIRC they drop from pinnacle bosses and then once you have all four stones they have a chance to drop from t16 map bosses. Pretty sure that's what they said

soft perch
cobalt blade
#

energized armour templar socket

onyx adder
#

I dont think u need much else

soft perch
#

there u go

onyx adder
soft perch
#

my point was u dont rly need to click armour nodes to make use of scion brass dome

elfin shale
#

Did we learn anything good from the interview

onyx adder
#

U can click a few

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If theyre good

soft perch
#

i am not saying u cant u dumbo

hexed mountain
#

Fortress rune is 40% already

onyx adder
#

Every scion paths through sanctuary as well

#

Is that the node

hexed mountain
#

And if you are a phys build you can broken faith and get 100%

onyx adder
#

Whichever one gives u armourev and res

past mantle
#

Terminus wording meant that you could get 3 charges with multistrike if they all crit right?

soft perch
#

sentinel yea

cobalt blade
true flower
#

delete reflected damage from the game

hexed mountain
#

Equip breach helm when no one is looking and overcap fire res

potent bramble
# elfin shale Did we learn anything good from the interview

Yes, there were some good bits of information in Ziz's interview today. I think the craziest thing is that they confirmed that Elemental Hit is squirrely on the back-end and as a result it's technically considered 'added damage' even though it reads like it's base damage, which means it works with the new Breachlord node. From my understanding they aren't patching it for this league but it'll get fixed for 3.29

onyx adder
onyx adder
hexed mountain
#

Nah. Get unholy might and 100% inc armor

soft perch
#

only volls works like this

#

and it has different wording to volls

onyx adder
#

Even armour stacker usually just wants more aura effect for the points

soft perch
#

'Gain a Power Charge for each Enemy you hit with a Critical Strike' vs 'gain a frenzy charge on critical strike'

cobalt blade
#

ye inc armour is ass on armour stacker on the tree because of how much u get from res

#

its just not worth the points

soft perch
#

modifier 2 is worded like stuff that stops as soon as you roll a crit on a multistrike

rich widget
fathom fjord
rich widget
#

isn't insta leech like super good

hexed mountain
rich widget
potent bramble
#

Isnt' multistrike considered one 'attack' even though it hits multiple times? I would assume that means it rolls to crit and then they either all are or are not crits, so it only counts as one successful critical strike - just applied multiple times

onyx adder
fathom fjord
cobalt blade
#

ya

hexed mountain
fathom fjord
#

4000 HP is whatever but you just don't have a whole lot of defense

onyx adder
#

If i ever play storm burst again i'll probably run the energized armour setup tho

soft perch
#

please remove

onyx adder
#

Because u have 12 second molten shells

#

And its funny

cobalt blade
fathom fjord
soft perch
#

that is the bad

fathom fjord
hexed mountain
#

Is there other skills that scale well with duration than stormburst?

final owl
#

dps: 0.

fathom fjord
#

earthquake of the magnitude 🙂

hexed mountain
#

Spark totem sounds zdps

onyx adder
#

BV

hexed mountain
#

Looking if there is a cadigan reliquarian angle

onyx adder
#

Not BV

hexed mountain
#

With 3 sets of 2 totems

fathom fjord
#

and some mana regen

strong totem
#

Who is this GGG senior monster designers who loves fireball? I'd like to buy him lunch.

rich widget
hexed mountain
#

Kind of yeah

gritty garnet
#

you don't have enough sockets

soft perch
hexed mountain
#

Lots of damage from them

soft perch
#

thats kind of the problem with breachlord ele hit

#

it removes all your ailments

#

then u kinda need to get them back cuz ele hit gets huge ailment scaling

#

which means u are going to be squishy

strong totem
#

Bruh

soft perch
#

and its sort of unavoidable

strong totem
#

TF Fireball in 3.29!

#

hype!

rich widget
onyx adder
#

See if u could use leaderships price

hexed mountain
#

I wonder if there isnt just a more chill breachlord setup Ith converting to lightning anger and blizzard crown and stuff like that on a less cringe skill

onyx adder
#

U wouldnt have all this bullshit

#

But ur locked out of it

soft perch
#

sap ring helps a bit

#

its damage and survivability

hexed mountain
onyx adder
#

U can run scorch shield

#

And cope like hell

hexed mountain
#

Scorch shield sap boots

soft perch
hexed mountain
#

We pob warrioring with this one

rich widget
hexed mountain
#

Pure phys elehit is a weird use of free will

onyx adder
#

Brutality elehit

fathom fjord
onyx adder
#

Your time is now

hexed mountain
#

But if you run a slayer with phys sure you dont go taming

final owl
#

maybe i am going entirely off meta and just investing in whatever turns out to be disgustingly broken later

onyx adder
#

Even get the support for free

cobalt blade
soft perch
fathom fjord
#

bring it up w/ GGG

soft perch
#

whatever that is

#

stop it

#

that aint it

fathom fjord
rich widget