1┃general

[worthy cave]

but warden deals like 6x the damage

[strong totem]

If I worked at ggg, fireball would have 6 tf gems by now

[spice pecan]

why are we asking about 7L+ items tho

[dark sequoia]

You can do lightning shield crush of chieftain now

[leaden quiver]

yeah

[worthy cave]

also I'm not sure slayer is even that much tankier than warden

if you go with oath of winter

[leaden quiver]

the strongest build ever

[dim sonnet]

nah i hate breach. im going to the mines like always

[karmic gust]

but it does nothing for spectrum

spectrum is not choosing elements

[pulsar dune]

Sacrifice support may also be kinda funny

[icy zinc]

hey guys its mathil here today we are doing slayer ele hit, next week elementalist ele hit, next week deadeye ele hit

[leaden quiver]

yeah

[gloomy charm]

If I worked at GGG, so would first blades. My very first skill…

[crisp obsidian]

OH

what

[worthy cave]

Oath of winter, double tincture, wham

[fossil mural]

Pog

[crisp obsidian]

that's insane

[whole bluff]

hmm

so 8L with squire? does that work?

[gloomy charm]

What’s with the ele hit memes? Is it busted?

[karmic gust]

i was saying the imbued support will work like this

[hardy heron]

Love that for imbued gems with shockwave

[leaden quiver]

yeah everyone is playing this shit lmao

[karmic gust]

no reason why it wouldnt

[stoic horizon]

very

[leaden quiver]

new breachlord ascendancy

[empty bronze]

i was hoping it would just apply to the gem its applied to

[jaunty geode]

Has anyone seen darth windu in chat

[leaden quiver]

all damage treated as cold

[strong totem]

Were they discussing fireball in the interview?

[gloomy charm]

Oooh, bow or no

[dim sonnet]

good. crafting elehit gear is easy so its free money

[leaden quiver]

means this will all add up to one of them

[icy zinc]

32 lvl ele hits be like

today im doing 10k flat

[karmic gust]

yea they spit on it

[dark sequoia]

they are totally gonna nerf it before launch just like taming + oath of spring

[karmic gust]

[leaden quiver]

no

[opal ingot]

they said that theyll do that in 3.29

[leaden quiver]

they already said "have fun for the league"

[empty bronze]

then you could do like arcanist brand with one support imbued and your spell with a different one

[opal ingot]

they know its gonna be busted

[dusk rune]

is this rare

[strong totem]

Kinky. I have 3 hrs of sweaty work until I can get involved

[dim sonnet]

pp brand died so elehit can walk

[icy zinc]

ele hit doesnt hit that much to make value out of oath of spring

[dusk rune]

Valdo puzzle box in heist

contraband

[lean urchin]

ye

[icy zinc]

tbf

[stoic horizon]

he is very active in help channels, here not really

[icy zinc]

i get 1 of that every 2-3 maps

[opal ingot]

it's like a divine or slightly more worth iirc

[icy zinc]

thank wisps

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/slayer-ele-hit-penance so i can rework this to be 200M dps instead

[jaunty geode]

dam i was in the help channels then came here

[grizzled lily]

yea

[icy zinc]

is penance mark required

[leaden quiver]

if youre locking into cold only

[jaunty geode]

i love him, he's so very helpful, and i'm a lost lamb

[grizzled lily]

holy ele hit buff

just like that

[stoic horizon]

its 3x boss dps

[karmic gust]

no reason to not do penance mark

[hybrid harness]

oh so you pick one of these that all the flat from ehit gets ''converted'' into instead of just getting 1 of 3?

[karmic gust]

its x7 boss dps

not x3

[dim sonnet]

is there other ascendancies for elehit ? i dont want to play a dualist

[karmic gust]

xd

[icy zinc]

what if want rare gloves and a ring slot

🧘‍♂️

[stoic horizon]

you ancetral cry?

[pulsar vault]

You will still need to block lightnign and fire no?

[karmic gust]

rare gloves suck

soutbound gives +1 frenzy and 16% life

[leaden quiver]

yeah

[icy zinc]

we'll see

[karmic gust]

wht else would you want

smh

[icy zinc]

frenzy

[karmic gust]

yes

[grizzled lily]

ele hit with new bloodline

[jaunty geode]

what are soutbound gloves?

[icy zinc]

tbf i wanted to merged frenzy with strike

influ glove

[grizzled lily]

oh my god we are so fucking up

[pulsar vault]

so it's still 50% of the flat fire + 50% flat lightning + 100% of cold yes ?

[karmic gust]

yea

[pulsar vault]

if you use teh breachlord ascendency

[karmic gust]

100%

of all

[tranquil umbra]

enjoy having 5 div combat focus

[karmic gust]

it gets converted before combat focus applies

becaue the added damage is counted as other flat

[fossil mural]

Doesnt matter

[dark sequoia]

I'm liking the idea of playing an aurabot for a character like this.
Cause wrath/smite/anger/envy will all add cold damage.

[karmic gust]

not conversion

[pulsar vault]

Oooooooh

[karmic gust]

isnt there vendor recipe for cmbat focus now

so thats literally not possible?

[dim sonnet]

there is yes

[tranquil umbra]

there is?

alright

[fossil mural]

10% more damage per level too for ele hit with breach

[dim sonnet]

its a cheap jewel

[karmic gust]

if it was only 50% then it would be bad

and worse than tri ele hit

most of the time

but at 100% its broken

[pulsar vault]

Damn

[fossil mural]

I wonder what the rework will be

[karmic gust]

idk why would they even rework ele hit

[pulsar vault]

Anyway I'm a phys impale enjoyer, please buff gg

[karmic gust]

its finally in like

decent spot

the skill

[pulsar vault]

???????

[karmic gust]

even before this breach shit

[spice pecan]

can they please rename ele hit

[pulsar vault]

6000 base damage is fine ?

[karmic gust]

ele tickle

[fossil mural]

Lol true

[karmic gust]

before breach shit

[heady cliff]

"decent spot" "40% playrate"

[karmic gust]

it was good last league

[pulsar vault]

yes

it gonna get reworked in the code

[heady cliff]

welcome to 45% ele hit slayers 45% kf totems 10% meme builds league

[pulsar vault]

not as gameplay

[karmic gust]

ah

yea maybe

would make sense

[tranquil umbra]

good, let everyone use elehit so my shit is cheaper

[pulsar vault]

because is the only skill where the flat is a count as added damage and not base damage

Like the base fire, cold and lightning is 0 + flat xdd

[karmic gust]

well its attack

[spice pecan]

agmp gone, no greater greater version

[karmic gust]

every other attack that had added flat worked sameway

[crude moat]

rip

[karmic gust]

before

[icy zinc]

exceptional gem NAME DROP!

[karmic gust]

they just deleted all added flat

from other attacks

[pulsar vault]

Boneshatter

still has

[karmic gust]

yep

and its added still also

[supple basin]

Awakened is boring af

[pulsar vault]

But maybe in the code it's base = eff + added from skill

dunno

[cerulean breach]

@karmic gust why go so heavy on the penance mark cheese tho

[karmic gust]

why not

its good and doesnt have downside

[cerulean breach]

clunk and shouldn't be needed

[karmic gust]

where is the clunk

[split maple]

Weapon swap cf to finish boss

[karmic gust]

oh noo :d

[fossil mural]

Id say regen block is the most annoying part

[split maple]

That's entire extra click db

Practically back to flask piano days

[karmic gust]

true

[fossil mural]

For map bosses you probably dont care

Its for ubers

[cerulean breach]

1. you gimp your character when not manually using the mark
2. you have to manually mark the boss
3. then you have to wait 7 seconds before you reach full DPS

[fossil mural]

Or low budget with zdps

For easy multipliers

[karmic gust]

you dont gimp your character, other than the ring southbound is strong

and you are scaling clearspeed while scaling damage

[cerulean breach]

you gimp your character in many ways

[leaden quiver]

lmao another newb talking about ele hit penance mark being bad?

[karmic gust]

and you dont have to wait 7 seconds

[dark sequoia]

Why ele hit slayer over ele hit warden

[cerulean breach]

southbound is not strong compared to the +level gloves

[karmic gust]

warden has no defense

[stoic horizon]

because imagine playing warden

[tranquil umbra]

oh so dplay is now for farming astrolabes

[karmic gust]

why would you ever go warden

[fossil mural]

Map boss rush will be absolutely fucking insane

[leaden quiver]

southbound is strong as fuck it lets you penance mark

[karmic gust]

well you are not getting + frenzy easily on celestial brace :d

[leaden quiver]

crazy take in this chat

[hybrid harness]

pog

[spice pecan]

reliquarian reveal

[cerulean breach]

that's not the one I meant 😛

[karmic gust]

anyway other than having to mark the boss

[tranquil umbra]

RELIQUARIAN TIME

[karmic gust]

there is no clunk

and you get way better clear speed

[karmic gust]

because you are actively investing in it

[fossil mural]

Unaffected by poison lmao

[karmic gust]

like you normally wouldntget that many + strikes or aoe even though it actively benefits you always

so this is good excuse to actually get that

and get way better clear speed while not ruyining your single target

[leaden quiver]

this is crazy

[karmic gust]

the attack mastery is also crazy good clearspeed node

[leaden quiver]

for a 2 pointer

[karmic gust]

that thanks to penance also benefits you for single target

[digital fern]

3* no es btw

[tranquil sedge]

defensively very strong but adds no offense

[leaden quiver]

thats 2 points

[fossil mural]

Terminus is frenzy on each hit

[dark sequoia]

wait does actual brass dome remove es now

[hybrid harness]

hail nerfed?

[karmic gust]

and the base crit slayer node i because paradoxica crit sucks so benefiting frrom the crit multi at same time as well

[icy zinc]

widowhail saved

[karmic gust]

is just good

[icy zinc]

75% is really good

[digital fern]

3* u have 2 points before that buddy

[fossil mural]

Grace is just wisps no extta

[icy zinc]

flicker sweep

morbius sweep

[tranquil umbra]

SSF Flicker time

[rancid tendon]

how much does expedition scale with map juice?

[icy zinc]

magefist crying rn

in joy

[tranquil sedge]

how does the reliquarian widowhail work with the widowhail bow?

[karmic gust]

totally balanced xd

[fossil mural]

Lmao 5% of your life

Garbage

[icy zinc]

maata is really strong

[leaden quiver]

okay thats bad

[icy zinc]

holy sheit

[sleek ocean]

did they reveal the notables for the scion ascension?

[icy zinc]

op

[rancid tendon]

he talked about it and said that even with this it probably wouldnt be worth unless ssf

[leaden quiver]

cadigans authority is so ass

why would u use it ever

[icy zinc]

maata teaching is the best in this

cause you can have actual 11-12% crit base

than the weapon itself

[leaden quiver]

cybils paw is pretty okay

[fossil mural]

Paw lmao

[pulsar vault]

Mystic Refractor is good with grounded projectile btw

[icy zinc]

weapon is 9%

[leaden quiver]

since its just inc spell damage

[hybrid harness]

120% inc spell dmg

[leaden quiver]

but everything else?

[leaden quiver]

you can pick two nodes with double armour xd??

[icy zinc]

i guess free purity of ele reserve is nice

[karmic gust]

at 75% its kinda useless

ngl

[hybrid harness]

projector is nice

[wheat sinew]

oooh are they out

[icy zinc]

double armour then gain no armour xdd

[leaden quiver]

warped timepiece is amazing

[fossil mural]

Wow reliq kinda sucks

[leaden quiver]

warped timepiece is amazing

[icy zinc]

is it

[fossil mural]

Flicker?

[leaden quiver]

beacon of madness booties

[spice pecan]

beacon of madness reliquarian

[spring gulch]

What is Reliquarian Ascendancy exactly? Is it an extra ascendancy everyone gets?

[fossil mural]

I missed that

[leaden quiver]

no

scion ascendancy

[lean urchin]

scions new ascendency

[tranquil umbra]

Scion Ascendency

[spring gulch]

ahhh ok

[empty bronze]

glorious madness reliquarian?

[spice pecan]

warped timepiece node 100% reduced debuff duration

[crisp obsidian]

l0l you wish

[karmic gust]

well you cant double extra proj or chain corrupt anymore

[spring gulch]

so doing scion league start worth it?

[karmic gust]

and with widowhail diminishing returns

[fossil mural]

I seeee. Yea okay maybe

[dim sonnet]

is ascendant gone ? or do we have 2 ascendancies for scion now ?

[spring gulch]

i havent played poe 1 in 6 years so idk

[karmic gust]

so most of the time its not great

[icy zinc]

right

[empty bronze]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Glorious_Madness

[tranquil sedge]

is reliquarian multiplicative or additive to widowhail?

[icy zinc]

ye iguess

still 325%

[karmic gust]

additive for sure

[icy zinc]

but for regular quiver its raw stats

[hardy heron]

latter

[tranquil sedge]

if its multiplicative then 75% is a lot
thats why i was asking

[icy zinc]

reliquarian has really solid nodes

[spice pecan]

oh no

[pulsar vault]

Yeees

[spice pecan]

delve drops jack shit for fossils

[icy zinc]

legion sus

[pulsar vault]

Gonna sells them high

[leaden quiver]

its increased effect

not more effect

[icy zinc]

legion better be goated

[crisp obsidian]

l0l delve is gonna be 100d/h

[icy zinc]

removed harbs removed fossils removed whatever

[pulsar vault]

FInnaly

[supple basin]

Delve my beloved

[pulsar vault]

Farming delve since 6 seasons

[icy zinc]

legion blob

[lethal berry]

delve bout to be giga profit

[pulsar vault]

Our time has rise

[spice pecan]

it doesn't address the problem when delve drops fuck all for fossils in the first place tbh

[fossil mural]

He said they might buff it

[spice pecan]

i know

[fossil mural]

[pulsar vault]

Oh no, they are thinking to buff it :(

[fossil mural]

This leg it will just be rough

[icy zinc]

reliquarian looks kinda mid overall

[rancid tendon]

how much does expedition scale with map juice?

[icy zinc]

on second thought

[urban spade]

level 30 purity of elements goes kinda crazy...

[fossil mural]

A lot

[icy zinc]

thats just a bit more res

[crisp obsidian]

noo

[icy zinc]

the reservation is nice i guess

[crisp obsidian]

rip delve d/h

[pulsar vault]

Nooooo

0d/h

[hard cliff]

guys I'm making a pizza I can't get on my PC someone give me a short summary of the ascendancy please

[empty bronze]

i was hoping the warped timepiece node would have the reduced duration affix too

[icy zinc]

what was said

[dark sequoia]

Reliquarian vs Ascendant aurabot?

[soft perch]

reliquarian bad

[crisp obsidian]

they will discuss buffing delve fossil amounts

[ornate patrol]

WHAT

[soft perch]

pyroclast mines maybe good but reliquarian bad

[crisp obsidian]

cause of removal from other content

[fossil mural]

Flicker KEK

[icy zinc]

clusters not removed but removed

[crisp obsidian]

right after stream

[hard cliff]

yessss

[vague steeple]

Thos notes looks so broken i dont know why ...

[icy zinc]

i dont get them

[sleek ocean]

they already nerfed widowhail

[icy zinc]

oh lel

[karmic gust]

well the brass dome node is rly good

[tranquil umbra]

Reliquarian is funny with Flicker yeah

[ornate patrol]

oh nvm the unique is already 100%

[icy zinc]

jesus christ the debloat

can they stop debloating

[soft perch]

its fine

[crisp obsidian]

no this is good

you should be getting fossils primarly from delving

not from other content

[soft perch]

reliquarian is for sure near required bloodline ascendancy lul

the jewellery is so bad

[dark sequoia]

brass dome + prosperos protection

[hard cliff]

@crisp obsidian
you are right

[tranquil umbra]

?

[spice pecan]

i agree with this, but delve intrinsically just doesnt drop that many fossils

[halcyon flicker]

time to make a completely off meta build because i want to feel special and get stuck in act 3

[tranquil sedge]

so that should be a buff to delve that can be made

[sleek ocean]

kitavas feast and beltimber blade are both quite strong

[dim sonnet]

hopefully ppl dont go farm delve

[heady cliff]

fossils are near useless anyway

[tranquil sedge]

but thematically its good

[crisp obsidian]

yeah, they adressed this and are gonna talk about it after interview

[dim sonnet]

leave my niko alone 1

[soft perch]

whats good here

[heady cliff]

you craft +2 wands with it and... all?

[spice pecan]

yeah im just surprised they didn't already know this

[soft perch]

the best is supreme truth

[viscid ruin]

aren't we gonna talk how the scion needs to complete 2 LABS before she can get an ascendancy node?

[split maple]

Clusters

Body armors

[mint gorge]

TERMINUS EST LOOOOOGIN GIROV REPORTING @magefist

[pulsar vault]

clusters, body armour defense

[split maple]

Yea that's it

[dark sequoia]

I feel like there's something here with smite

[karmic gust]

ok how do you gain get enough elements on single element ele hit

[south marlin]

me struggling to make starter builds every league with 10-20mil sDPS

[tranquil sedge]

im gonna go with they just didn't think about it enough but at least numerical buffs seem to be easy

[karmic gust]

we go cold right

[past mantle]

Oh lol.

[soft perch]

skitters + legacy of fury

[pulsar vault]

cold with Heatshiver

[karmic gust]

man i hate those boots

[soft perch]

or arkhons tools but i dont know how worth it is

[stoic horizon]

the funny ring

[hard cliff]

that's funny

[crisp obsidian]

you go elementalist ez

[soft perch]

i dont like arkhons tools

[tranquil sedge]

hahahah

[stoic horizon]

i love arkhon

but because i love mine builds

[karmic gust]

what if we just dont go for the extra ailments and go for 3 only

[dark sequoia]

replica malachis artifice

[heady cliff]

elementalist elemental hit

[karmic gust]

chill freeze brittle

[pulsar vault]

Dev leave

[soft perch]

just go skittles and legacy or no legacy

[karmic gust]

well is skittersr worth for the shock alon

[crisp obsidian]

you can use arkhon tools + skitterbots

[tranquil umbra]

how you getting brittle

[crisp obsidian]

[karmic gust]

i gueess it is

[blazing spear]

reliquarian seems really cool

[heady cliff]

still yoke or +4/+8 amulet?

[karmic gust]

as there is nothing to reserve

[karmic gust]

ring

[coral summit]

hmm

[crisp obsidian]

arkhon tool's!!

where's uly rn

[karmic gust]

oh right yoke works for shock

[coral summit]

self-cast forbidden rite reliquarian

[sleek ocean]

warped timepiece as a passive

[rancid peak]

Relequarian class it is 👍

[raw void]

Reliqurian nodes not so strong

[crisp obsidian]

yelling arkhon tool's

[soft perch]

i think arkhons tools is worse than legacy of fury

[karmic gust]

atm i just have ashes there

[soft perch]

ngl

too many good belts

[karmic gust]

yea im def not using arkhons

[soft perch]

boot slot is lul

[stoic horizon]

you could also use the sap shield technically

[nocturne pivot]

When is new sesaon ?

[coral summit]

brass dome with fourth vow>mystic refractor>figure out what to do with last 2 points

[karmic gust]

i think the play is to not use legacy of fury

[stoic horizon]

but thats not reliable

[bitter bluff]

Kinetic Fusillade (self-cast) is eating good

[karmic gust]

and not use arkhons tools

[south marlin]

couple leagues ago I made hundreds of divs selling resonators and fossils

[halcyon flicker]

veruso's wow

[karmic gust]

and just not have scorch

[dark sequoia]

Has anyone tried making ivory tower life based forbidden rite? Since you take 100% life on mana it doesnt disrupt dissolution of the flesch

[karmic gust]

you have turbo damage skill anyway

why make yourself squishier

with dogshit items

[spice pecan]

ASA vs SRU in ziz chat rn

[split maple]

Good thing bloodlines compensate for jewelry node being sad

[spice pecan]

i love it

[crisp obsidian]

cause we are SC players!

[soft perch]

i dont think losing boot slot is that bad

[strong totem]

Microdistillery league. Hiero can has flask effect too

[sleek ocean]

+2 wisps is quite crazy

[junior otter]

holy moly this is pretty nice for reliq

[soft perch]

mystic refractor is straight up way worse than beltimber blade btw

[south marlin]

have to be couple weeks or more into the league tho when people start crafting

[tranquil sedge]

i spy a wild @spice pecan

[heady cliff]

yeah, just going yoke + funny ring gives you chill, freeze, shock, brittle

what else do you need really

[soft perch]

yoke bad

just use skitters

[sleek ocean]

there is 30% ms in the ascension 😄

[spice pecan]

:)

[soft perch]

too many good necks for ele hit

[finite quail]

why does it remove all es lmfao

[sleek ocean]

as well

[finite quail]

brass dome doesnt do that

[tranquil sedge]

because you don't need to wear a brass dome to take this node

[split maple]

Its a buff

[junior otter]

widowhail + actual widowhail seems like it could be good?

[soft perch]

because it would be better for es than life if it didnt

[split maple]

No 50% to not be stunned

[sleek ocean]

i like this one

[strong totem]

No es is great for cast when stunned

[soft perch]

widowhail node is for non widowhail builds

[coral summit]

idk why they dont have third proj on mystic refractor

[finite quail]

Thats really nice qol

[lime otter]

+3 Max Totems is pretty sweet. I wonder if there's enough of a build there to not play Heiro

[coral summit]

it's literally just worse than beltimber blade

[bitter bluff]

A little disappointed this isn't reduced skill effect duration

[coral summit]

why would u ever pick it

[dark sequoia]

What are important breakpoints with 325% quiver effect?

[soft perch]

what about the 2nd part

[heady cliff]

would they deal more damage than 70-90% inc damage during mapping?

[finite quail]

widowhail was kept nice

and also +2 wisp from grace of the goddess

pog

[split maple]

More arrows

Spinehail angle

[soft perch]

yes, yoke is not that good and u can just click skitters

[lean urchin]

[finite quail]

and beltimber blade for +2 proj dayum

so many good options

[lime otter]

It would be a totally different build but it does make me wonder.

[heady cliff]

okay what amulet would give you the same damage as 70-90% inc damage on monsters?

[soft perch]

youre forgetting about skitters

[junior otter]

no doomfletch is sad

i liked doomfletch on scavenger

[coral summit]

Would you just go huntleader on a forbidden rite reliquarian

[heady cliff]

skitters are unreliable

[hybrid harness]

skitters is just gonna give 1 new ailment though right

u will have either shock or cold already

[coral summit]

for more crit+cast speed

[sleek ocean]

dont like much of the caster notables

[fossil mural]

+8 ammy would be better

[coral summit]

why is huntleader so generically good

[slim island]

this is nice for leveling but pricey to spec out of

[soft perch]

skitters are extremely reliable for strikes actually lol

[coral summit]

not sure what to take, just get more damage

[soft perch]

u also rly want to play ele hit with skitters

[dark grove]

Self cast KF eating good with reliquarian

[soft perch]

cuz then enemies have ailments before you hit them

[bitter bluff]

Kinetic Fusillade

Reliquarian or another ascendancy?

[sleek ocean]

whats thirst for blood?

[soft perch]

its way comfier for clear

[heady cliff]

thats an endgame item

[dark grove]

gecko ppl are trying still ele, warden i think

[lime otter]

Reliquarian Totems with Astral Projector, 2 Frost Nova, 2 Shock Nova, 2 Firestorm.

[slim island]

gain a bunch of flat life regen per nearby bleeding enemy

[heady cliff]

+4 amulet probably wont be better

[karmic gust]

this is too slow right

[elfin shale]

Jack The Axe skill. Reserves life, gives % more damage with bleed, gives 200 life regen per target bleeding up to 2000

[karmic gust]

the +1 level better

[dark grove]

But i mgoing with new reliq

[soft perch]

ye

just click +1 cold skill

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/7KoOKnExKa4t fk scion we still glad

[elfin shale]

Hype as fuck since you dont need to use Jack anymore

[onyx adder]

Scion looks solid

[opaque sphinx]

it does look ok tho

[onyx adder]

The jewelry all suck tho

[elfin shale]

Im sad the Cadigan Authority node sucks ass

[karmic gust]

so far went to 167M

from 70

[opaque sphinx]

brass dome widowhail seems meme

[karmic gust]

no scorch and other garbage

[onyx adder]

Looks like 6 points + bloodline angle

[opal ingot]

oh shit

whaaa

[fossil mural]

Where is 7 coming from btw

[elfin shale]

Warped Timepiece is pretty hype

[opaque sphinx]

brass dome, widowhail, PoE for early simu

[finite quail]

gah dam this is so good

[opaque sphinx]

yeh

[onyx adder]

Its very narrow

[thorny fern]

I think party players will be happy with new Scion, you can get 32 Purity of Elements like for free.

[worthy cave]

That's for bosses.

[livid quarry]

we have no borrowed power this leag?

[onyx adder]

Good for the one build that wants it

[opaque sphinx]

might be worth swapping to scion over glad for tear of purity + brass dome

[worthy cave]

Can Kinetic fusilade make use of deli boots?

[fossil mural]

You will have same overlap while clearing on rares

[split maple]

Lvl1 support corrupt on gem currency

[lime otter]

If you use Totem Chest you can corrupt both Spell skills with a level 1 skill gem and run Two 6L Totems at once lol

[strong totem]

Dat beltimber blade doh

[elfin shale]

Lets you ignore stuff like the deal no damage for 4 seconds out of every 10 and such mods

[karmic gust]

ancestral cry

[opaque sphinx]

yeah beltimber node is silly

[fossil mural]

All damage poisons maybe

[heady cliff]

friendship ended with exsang/reap mines, elemental hit is my new best friend now

[livid quarry]

what are the mods we can get?

[split maple]

Mod that was removed

[onyx adder]

I dont think u need this thing to deal with that mod this league lulw

It got deleted

[coral summit]

hold up

you can use the mystic refractor node and still use mystic refractor wand for forbidden rite LMAO

[elfin shale]

I mean i assume there's similar mods elsewhere

[coral summit]

just +5 proj without having to burn a link

[elfin shale]

And it works on every degen

[finite quail]

GUYS DONT FORGET

[coral summit]

for volley/GMP

[split maple]

Any support gem that can support skill you use currency on, can pick color by having one currency for each support color

[hardy heron]

Any valid "regular" support for that gem. You can choose which colour support is given

[soft perch]

i can see reliquarian kinetic fusillade totems being good tbh

[finite quail]

FF JEWELS FOR RELIQUARIAN

FF JEWELS

[opaque sphinx]

timepiece lets u play deli boots easy tho

[elfin shale]

There is none

[opaque sphinx]

they dont exist

[onyx adder]

Theres not anything worrying this time round and degen resistance is not worth two asc points

[finite quail]

bullshit

[heady cliff]

do not exist as nodes are constantly changing

[onyx adder]

Its good with the boots

[livid quarry]

so we dont have to worry about stat requirements for the gems?

[opaque sphinx]

fr tho wtd u think this can do simu https://pobb.in/7KoOKnExKa4t

[onyx adder]

Not clicking it in other circumstances tho

[finite quail]

SO WHAT, CHANGE THEM EVERY LEAGUE TOO

sad

[elfin shale]

FFing stuff from Ascendant is pretty good tho

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/wuxhVedpH0PN technically this can also get ignite somehow but its annoying

[worthy cave]

BTW I have a question about reliquarian brass dome -- does that apply to evaison as well, or only pure armor?

[opaque sphinx]

thats with 100% attrition so the real dps is like 3m

[onyx adder]

Brother i just got 24 new ascendancy nodes and u want me to look at ur shit build

U shoulda posted yesterday

[finite quail]

armour is armour

armour is not evasion

[opaque sphinx]

[elfin shale]

It works with Iron Reflexes yeah

[worthy cave]

damn it 😭

[opaque sphinx]

valid

[finite quail]

but iron reflexes is a thing

[worthy cave]

so no buffing eva with the brass dome node 😭

[pliant hamlet]

what's your opinion on reliquarian, first viewing?

[worthy cave]

I mean you get the brass dome node and the amazing purity of elements node

[heady cliff]

db pob, ofc i see tides of time on every character

[onyx adder]

Asc looks good jewelry looks shit

[worthy cave]

so then all that's left is the weapon slot

armor wander?

[onyx adder]

If ur build can use jewelry then its rly gas

[fossil mural]

100% exp for boots KEKL

[karmic gust]

i mean is just very good belt :d

to be replaced with shrine belt later

[pliant hamlet]

Jewellery looks VERY niche. Every single piece looks good for like 1 niche build

[fossil mural]

Coping that a good shrine belt will be cheaper than mb

[pliant agate]

oh did widowhail ascendency already get nerfed?

[split maple]

Db don't forget your combat focus

[junior otter]

cant you just use a bloodline instead of jewelery

[onyx adder]

Yer

[fossil mural]

Sounds good to me? Just get bloodline

[heady cliff]

why southbound?

[nocturne pivot]

When is new sesaon ?

[elfin shale]

What does Ravenous do again?

[worthy cave]

When the heck did Zizaran lock in questions ?8(

[pliant hamlet]

I can't figure out why you're clicking reliquarian on any established build

[kindred silo]

why cold pen?

[lean urchin]

6th

[hardy heron]

I'm going from 0 mirrors to 0 mirrors, then

[karmic gust]

its pure cold

[junior otter]

more damage against type of monster you ate the corpse of, cant target skill generated corpses

[ebon tendon]

2 x 0 = 0

[karmic gust]

with the breach ascendancy

[kindred silo]

just go trinity

oh

[hazy kiln]

he posted a reddit thread a couple of days ago to get questions, idk when they locked in

[kindred silo]

does that work?

[karmic gust]

that remindsme i forgot to put combat focsu

[karmic gust]

yes they just confirmed it

[worthy cave]

ewwwwwwww reddit 😭

[karmic gust]

on the interview

[elfin shale]

Huh that doesnt sound that bad. Whats the numbers tho

[icy zinc]

and you wont be able with schizo bloodline

[karmic gust]

to enjoy broken ele hit for a league

xd

[junior otter]

15% and it lasts perma in the zone

[hexed mountain]

So reliquarian who only gets 3 notables get 2 proj from mystic refractor with a downside. hile deadeye gets 2 projs with no downside. Real cool

[karmic gust]

i switched that one already even though it makes me sad

for the breach one

[icy zinc]

ggs

[hybrid harness]

so no need to feel bad dropping annul now, not like a div

[worthy cave]

waiiiiiiiit so ... int stack ele hit jugg?

[junior otter]

its like, fine? mainly i'd pick that node for the ms and chaos res over the actual ability

[worthy cave]

wait no

[junior otter]

you can use it to eat ritual corpses for bosses if you want i guess

[elfin shale]

holy pog

[hexed mountain]

Yeah, need ritual corpses but its good vs pinnacles

[elfin shale]

Its prolly good as long as youre doing 1 specific mechanic

[hexed mountain]

Fun fact :if you push citizen into the storms vs sirus their corpse works vs sirus

I did that on the patch they came out

[onyx adder]

Thats fine tho, i cant click brass dome on deadeye

[elfin shale]

Like eat a human corpse and thats 15% more damage for a 5way

[digital fern]

what cheese can u d o with unaffected by poison

[hexed mountain]

Flicker

[fossil mural]

Not much tbh

[onyx adder]

Golden rule is the obvious case

[elfin shale]

Golden Rule and Temptation Step

Yeah not much

[fossil mural]

Self poison has good use of infinite regen

[elfin shale]

And Herald of Agony

[fossil mural]

But it doesnt work with unaffected

[hexed mountain]

Also infinite chaos res i guess

[icy zinc]

people rly discovering memory strands just now

wtf 3.26 info

[onyx adder]

Self poison generally works fine with unaffected the only case where it doesnt is tainted pact where ur actually taking the damage

[junior otter]

who is discovering memory strands

[icy zinc]

interviewers and twitch chat

[past mantle]

People don't play this game monka.

[opaque sphinx]

most people would 100% ignore strands cuz they are useless

[fossil mural]

I mean the reverse effect is the only worth the time option imho

[pulsar vault]

Wait a minute

[tranquil sedge]

alright his current line of questioning in interview is cringe

[elfin shale]

Is the Grace of The Goddess node good?

[tranquil sedge]

can't wait for interview to move on

[opaque sphinx]

u only give a fuck about strands if it drops on a bis t1 base
or u put them on urself

[junior otter]

i mean they arent useless right thats how you get the bosses

oh strands xd

im thinking tears

[nocturne yoke]

sooo blade vortex scion is silly right??

[pulsar vault]

Ddin't the poe community get very angry when Chris said that ground loot rare should be taken ?

[zealous pebble]

it should, unaffected isnt immune, you can be poisioned just take no damage

[pulsar vault]

and now asking ground loot rare to be better?

[crisp plinth]

No

[fossil mural]

It doesnt. The thing reverses poison damage. No damage = no regen

[opaque sphinx]

they dont want rares they want money

[tranquil sedge]

yea this is a dumb line of questioning

[zealous pebble]

yeah just read that

[lethal berry]

have they talked about boss bar UI issues?

[tranquil sedge]

was asked, said its noted i think?

[nocturne yoke]

no poison damage on lab one is crazy

[lethal berry]

oof

[fossil mural]

Its lab 2

[nocturne yoke]

is there any chaos damage that is not poison?

[tranquil sedge]

was more generically a question about ui and boss bar clutter

[opaque sphinx]

not rlly there's very little poison in the game before a7, even then its not a ton

[fossil mural]

Lots

[nocturne yoke]

ohhh i hate the scions dead lab 1

[quartz tartan]

Welp, guess I'm going reliquarian like 90% of everyone else, bahaha. 😄

[sage falcon]

wdym

[onyx adder]

Yes on its own, its not immediately obvious to me how you build wander as this asc tho

[icy zinc]

im glad the way to get transfigured gem is way too easy now, when you get the transform get into the transfigured and it shows you all options

[zealous pebble]

scion gets 3 points i thought?

[sage falcon]

that's like asking if there's any fire damage that is not ignite

[quartz tartan]

Nope

[zealous pebble]

yes, how do you thibk you get posined

[sage falcon]

scion just has a bad first lab

[hexed mountain]

Expecting sub 5%. No damage lab 1, low or no damage lab 2

[split maple]

By phys 😉

[icy zinc]

yeah quite a lot

[zealous pebble]

listen here

[fossil mural]

Expedition moment

[icy zinc]

but then again its ok

[heady cliff]

almost noone would go reliquarian

builds that he is good with is quite niche

[zealous pebble]

cap

[junior otter]

Yeah reliq was much better in first phrecia imo

[kindred silo]

reliq is fine

[junior otter]

This incarnation not so much

[fossil mural]

Okay so blob is generic + mechanics the blob is into

[quartz tartan]

I wish we could slot uniques into the tree instead

[junior otter]

By reliq I obviously mean the artist formerly known as scavenger

[hexed mountain]

Idk why they made some nodes so weak

[quartz tartan]

Perhaps that could have been the 8 pointer. Allowing us to a wear a free additional unique.

[kindred silo]

its like brass dome and +2 proj or some niche interactions

[stoic horizon]

ayy the addressed the random strongbox mod on the blight astrolabe

[forest surge]

so, what is the trouble with ele hit

[fossil mural]

So people dont feel bad when its gone KEKW

[hexed mountain]

Why is there a damn downside on a +2 proj node

[true falcon]

What is this about the breach bloodline?

[hexed mountain]

Why is grace litteraly the oshabi node but worse

[stoic horizon]

it tripples ehit dmg

[tranquil sedge]

not a problem, rather a bug

so you play ele hit, use combat focus to force one damage type, then take new breachlord bloodline to convert all damage to that type and now ur doing all 3 types worth of damage?
basically you do triple double damage, via a 'bug'

[heady cliff]

3000 flat damage level 20 gem with breach ascendancy, no biggie

[hexed mountain]

Doubles doesnt it? Still need to pick the right element

[fossil mural]

Still need 2 battle focuses

[soft perch]

@karmic gust lul

[stoic horizon]

it ignores the reductions from focuses

[hybrid harness]

breach asc is from hive fortress right? so u can get it in like t1 map

[stoic horizon]

since its not conversion

[kindred silo]

its like 33% better than avatar of fire

[opaque sphinx]

y'all just guaranteed elehit nerfed before league

[forest surge]

ty, should I avoid it as a build in mirage league ?

[tranquil sedge]

read my msg above urs

[heady cliff]

and runs chill/freeze/brittle instead of ignite/scorch

[tranquil sedge]

it was already asked by zizaran on stream lol

[crisp obsidian]

nah they confirmed no nerf

[kindred silo]

although u do get brittle

[fossil mural]

He said its fine, op for one league

[soft perch]

its way better what

[stoic horizon]

oh they already know, they said they are reworking ehit after this league

[opaque sphinx]

the fuck

[soft perch]

its 50% more flat damage than avatar of fire, and you dont need to pay any investment to conversion of any kind

[tranquil sedge]

'we forgot we'll probably leave it in for a league'

[stoic horizon]

they are letting it be op for this league basically

[heady cliff]

imagine the price of breachlord carry early in the league

[soft perch]

average azadi pob

[karmic gust]

lol

[opaque sphinx]

i feel attacked

[kindred silo]

avatar is a 1.5x multi vs breach is 2x multi

brittle stuff is better

[onyx adder]

Degens dont exist copium

[kindred silo]

but fire gets emnity

[stoic horizon]

no reliq ffs confirmed

[karmic gust]

im at this atm but it can easily double with the shrine belt

or triple

i think

[heady cliff]

hm

[opaque sphinx]

so why would i not just play elehit then man

[icy zinc]

by chaos damage probably

[karmic gust]

and with higher budget in general

[heady cliff]

enmity is a good point

[icy zinc]

enmity scaling though

[karmic gust]

well its not a bug

its intentional, just ele hit works that way

[icy zinc]

to be fair you'll be competing with 90% of other players also playing ele hit

[kindred silo]

again it is not triple dmg

it is 2x dmg

[karmic gust]

what was the requirement for the breach node again

[icy zinc]

and 9% other will be kinetic fussilading

bla...

[karmic gust]

or is there any even

[tranquil sedge]

gotcha*

[worthy cave]

Does Paradoxica double that?

[fossil mural]

Dex or int need to be highest

[opal ingot]

NOOO

[icy zinc]

requirement was to kill breach boss

[worthy cave]

Kill the breach boss

[icy zinc]

kekL

[karmic gust]

ah

[worthy cave]

Esh/Tul

[opal ingot]

ZIZ!?

[tranquil sedge]

ah okay i thought the interaction would fall under 'bug'

[karmic gust]

yea ok i have highest dex anyway

[soft perch]

avatar is a 2x multi breach is a 3x multi

[opaque sphinx]

whi its 2 and not 3

[kindred silo]

read what combat focus does

[soft perch]

yes

[opaque sphinx]

yeah it can only choose one, so you use 2

[kindred silo]

it has a 50% less dmg multi on it

[soft perch]

you have 1 part of 1 damage, and 0.5 parts of the other 2

its a 2x multi

[opaque sphinx]

ohh

[soft perch]

breach is 3 parts of 1 damage

so its 2 vs 3

[opaque sphinx]

i forgot the less part

[low lava]

which skill was it they used, when they showed the mana support "frostmage" or what it was called. The one that shot those ice thingies in front

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/CrcJ2fN.png

Why is this bad ?

[soft perch]

if youre 100% conversion

breach skips combat focus downside entirely

so its 3x

[fossil mural]

New trans shock nova

[crisp obsidian]

insane for death's oath

[tranquil sedge]

why would it be bad?
its strictly a positive upside node

[opaque sphinx]

its not, just not good

[dim gyro]

guess destructive play gonna be good for farming astrolabes

[zealous pebble]

it is not but there are better points

[hexed mountain]

Why would breach bypass the "can only deal damage of chosen element" tho

[heady cliff]

it is not bad, but ascendancy node for it?...

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/slayer-ele-hit-penance ok anything im missing

[forest surge]

is it viable without it? I was wondering start as ele hit deadeye

[low lava]

Wasnt that the circles in front ?

[soft perch]

because its not conversion

[strong totem]

I like how they acted like they buffed pledge of hands, when it always used to have 100% increased mana. Classic pr trick

[soft perch]

its instead

[hard cliff]

I want to play a build based on it so it's prob bad

[soft perch]

you are not doing fire damage

it is cold or lightning damage

[heady cliff]

why southbound

[crisp obsidian]

precision watchers eye

[soft perch]

so it doesnt get 50% less fire damage

[crisp obsidian]

to not kill penance mark minions

monsters

enemies

[karmic gust]

smh my head

[opal ingot]

are you askign about why ele hit can work with breach and get triple damage? if so, it's because of the wording that ele hit iirc (what the devs said just now) has it worded as "added damage" so it would work

[karmic gust]

i have flask mastery

[fossil mural]

Oh yea not sure, maybe ice spears?

[karmic gust]

should be good enough

[soft perch]

for damage

[crisp obsidian]

multi, attack speed

[hexed mountain]

I thought the cannot deal famage of other elements would check as last step and force you to double combat focus

[heady cliff]

nothing in notes about southbound

[karmic gust]

ah, i dont have spot for watchers

[heady cliff]

except culling

[crisp obsidian]

rip

[karmic gust]

soutbound is tonot kill phantasms

[fossil mural]

You do need double focus

[karmic gust]

so they stay alive for shotgunning

oh wait

[heady cliff]

what phantasms

[karmic gust]

but this is cold

[crisp obsidian]

lmaooo

[karmic gust]

so i cant freeze

[tranquil sedge]

vivid vulture STONKS hahah

[crisp obsidian]

synth beasts gigarare

[karmic gust]

from penance mark

[lethal berry]

lmao rip synth rerolling

[tranquil sedge]

YES HE SAID IT

HE FUCKING SAID IT FINALLY

[fossil mural]

Yea but where tf do you get them

[tranquil sedge]

SYNTH MAPS DONT DROP SYNTH ITEMS!!

finallyyyyyy they said it

[low lava]

This skill.

[dark sigil]

why is poe suddenly using so much gpu today?

[fossil mural]

They mentioned this last one wdym

[lethal berry]

they're just giga rare in normal maps

[crisp obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WtuRCA-Aj8

[pulsar vault]

Shader cache

[heady cliff]

why do you want to avoid killing them

[tranquil sedge]

mighta missed it then this the first im seeing em say it

[pliant hamlet]

Do we know what lv30 thirst for blood does?

[heady cliff]

your notes are confusing, fix that

[karmic gust]

see jijis vid

[hard cliff]

Second this question

[dark sigil]

do i need to delete it then?

[tranquil sedge]

so you can proc aoe off them for singletarget

[onyx adder]

It'll just be more damage than the lv20

[strong totem]

Lvl 20 is 20% more bleed dmg

[pulsar vault]

You can, the shader cache will be deleted at league start btw

[zealous pebble]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Thirst_for_Blood

[hard cliff]

@elfin shale
https://i.imgur.com/0aHdBxf.png

Hey they made that meme item you tried to make work into a fuckin ascendascy

[pliant hamlet]

Think it'll be more healing too? I didn't realize Thirst for Blood healed so much

[karmic gust]

ok issue, i cant do cold with soutbound @soft perch

[gritty garnet]

my guess is more beams

[karmic gust]

i just realize

xd

[gritty garnet]

good map sustain no impact single target

[fossil mural]

I remembered the name but now forgot. Look through int and dex gems

[mighty fulcrum]

when do keeper characters get migrated to standard, is it tomorrow, or when 3.28 drops later this week?

[soft perch]

LMAO true

[karmic gust]

because it freezes

aah

[soft perch]

wait

[opal ingot]

fuck them new players

[soft perch]

ele focus

SAVED

[stoic horizon]

interrogation? instead of ring

[karmic gust]

buit then no brittle

lul

[hexed mountain]

Looks like one of the strongest node even if its barely better than the level 20 value

[soft perch]

oh

not saved

[karmic gust]

but interrogation works

lmao

ok

so back it goes

[fossil mural]

Dont you just go suffering

[dark sigil]

yeah but i wanna go sort stuff in standard before league ends

[low lava]

New ones, the trans ones. Or norm ?
Because i am looking and none of the int/dex sounds close to the skill

[karmic gust]

so no unseen hue

[pliant hamlet]

yeah no kidding, I was floored when I checked the numbers

[karmic gust]

and i get taming back

thats fine

[karmic gust]

yea ok saved thx

[hexed mountain]

The simple 2000 regen and 20% more bleed are already massive and its level 20

[pliant hamlet]

Imagine it's like 30 or 35% more damage and 3k hp/sec or something

[hexed mountain]

Worse vs bosses tho

[stoic horizon]

might be even better than using the ring anyway

or you can use the ring for sap if you really want to instead

[hexed mountain]

If we just consider level 30 as 50% higher than 20 its an omega bleed node. Maybe the best bleed node of any ascendancy

[opaque sphinx]

or its like envy and there's literally no dif

[heady cliff]

then write in notes "we abuse phantasm spawned by penance mark to get multi-hit vs single target"

[tough quartz]

can you like stack the ascendancy and armour brass dome?

[heady cliff]

with extra melee strikes

this mechanic is absolutely not obvious

[hexed mountain]

That would make no sense they would have called it level 20 then (but even if that was the case 20% more and 400 regen per enemy is massive)

[strong totem]

Cant double a double

[stoic horizon]

doubling shouldnt stack, but for the max res yeah

[opaque sphinx]

brother assassin has lvl 30 ass mark for no reason and u question this

[supple wren]

Man, they messed up the placement of Astramentus on Reliq asc

[gritty garnet]

what about it

[tough quartz]

I mean las time I checked brass dome doesn't even have the armour effect

[hexed mountain]

Assassin gets level 30 value

[opaque sphinx]

which is not any higher than the lvl 20

[karmic gust]

yea makes sense

[heady cliff]

@karmic gust galesight?

[hexed mountain]

Its higher

[supple wren]

It could have been a great tool for leveling. Instead it's the final Lab and competes with the other stuff.

[stoic horizon]

right, it just has giant armor value

[opal ingot]

xd

[opaque sphinx]

my bad 9 crit multi dif

[pulsar vault]

Gamba in 3.29

[hexed mountain]

I think if you grab brass dome you 100% use the brass dome anyway sikce you skip the downside

[fossil mural]

I was super confused when I saw the 7x

[stoic horizon]

8k armor from chest login

and lotta max res

[karmic gust]

hmm

not sure if losing helmet is wroth over 4 points

[gritty garnet]

idk if you can run the transcendance version of brass dome now

[stoic horizon]

yeah

[gritty garnet]

I used the other foulborn for life mastery though

[karmic gust]

three dragons xd

[hexed mountain]

Yeah 8 max res is wild with 8400 armor maw and no crit damage taken

[gritty garnet]

yeah but you'll ignite them

[pulsar vault]

Wait, Beyond + Mirage = Double bosses ?

[supple wren]

And if you just wear BD, Veruso's is better irrespective of if you care about Ravenous

[stoic horizon]

yup, and if you get the foulborn version you can use the life mastery too

[karmic gust]

now how to make this tankier

[soft perch]

https://pobb.in/mJTgMvnlYT3u please enjoy this absolutely cataclysmic bait

[fossil mural]

I am 100% doing that

99 block is based

[supple wren]

What could possibly go wrong?

[opal ingot]

ho

hot

[tough quartz]

a cool -32 chaos

[soft perch]

i said cataclysmic bait

[dim gyro]

@karmic gust oh so it's basically doing the same thing as zerker Ancestral fury with hydrosphere

[thick narwhal]

sanctum is so back

[karmic gust]

kinda

[tranquil sedge]

:O

cool

[karmic gust]

doesnt this still need southbound or how are you not killing phantasms

[karmic gust]

also lucky supp mastery i guess

[stoic horizon]

instructions unclear, leaguestarts this

[karmic gust]

nice

[fossil mural]

Okay mamba is saved

[karmic gust]

so they only nerfed attack speed

[crisp obsidian]

yeah

[karmic gust]

and low tolerance

[tranquil sedge]

full mamba update

[fossil mural]

You can use the new unique dword

[soft perch]

oh fuck

[fossil mural]

Nvm next line you csnt

[soft perch]

i forgot to put them back on

HOLY

[crisp obsidian]

l0l

[karmic gust]

oh wait they did not nerfed low toelrance

they removed i

[crisp obsidian]

no low tole nerf

[karmic gust]

from patch notes

[heady cliff]

The Heist Trinket modifiers granting a chance in Heists for Chaos Orbs and Regal Orbs to drop as Exalted Orbs has been disabled.

[crisp obsidian]

ahahahahahah

[karmic gust]

xd

[crisp obsidian]

mamba is so back

[heady cliff]

exalted orb now as rare as chaos orb?