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[runic vine]

👆

[ionic gorge]

@drowsy gazelle smartest redditor

[errant hatch]

huh. no kidding.

[crisp obsidian]

holy smartness overload

[crisp sinew]

guys Guys GUYS
I have a question
I wanna do some big boom expedition at the start of the league and maybe even later
I'm thinkin: ignite eviscerate elementalist, bleed eviscerate glad or ruetoo's phys dot elementalist
Whaddayasay?

[fossil mural]

Downvoted

[crisp obsidian]

phys dot

[tranquil sedge]

phys dot

[normal hedge]

do not play ignite if you wanna farm juiced expedition

[drowsy gazelle]

delving aw hell no

[crisp sinew]

phys dot, buh why tho?

[ionic gorge]

got him real good

[crisp obsidian]

good clear, decent defences and fast

[fossil mural]

Any hit ailment stuff is immediately dogshit, so no ignites/bleeds

[tranquil sedge]

im assuming his phys dot elementalist is using corrupting fever?

[crisp obsidian]

and wont get hit by so many mods

[crisp sinew]

he does use CF

[tranquil sedge]

yea CF is great for expedition

[crisp sinew]

but then what about bleed eviscerate?

[tranquil sedge]

especially if you run logbooks

[leaden quiver]

also domblow is fucking nuuuuts

[fossil mural]

Phys dot or chaos dot are your best options. Id lean towards phys dot because maim

[leaden quiver]

thanks admirals arrogance

[crisp sinew]

no logbooks, just big boom

[tranquil sedge]

bleed is an ailment
corrupting fever is not

[tawdry olive]

basically you want to be immune to as much bullshit mods as possible

[crisp obsidian]

then you need to use more points on getting past mods

and yeah ailment

[astral shadow]

Eviscerate glad is tankiest among those and probably easiest, cheapest to build too

[crisp sinew]

interesting, thank you very much, lads ^^

[fossil mural]

Good big boom expedition will be curse immune, block, ailment immune, a lot of avoidance from hits

Lots of res

Phys dot ignores most of it

[tranquil sedge]

with CF pretty much the only node that can brick you is immunity to phys damage i think?

[fossil mural]

And then get glad explode or banner or whatev

[crisp sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-write-that-down-gif-27686706

[tawdry olive]

yea, you cant disregard everything, but i think the best builds are always some form of phys or chaos dot

[paper root]

Feeling blight this league, skipped it last league and did ulti instead

[fossil mural]

Chaos dot gets hit by res, but gets wither

[tranquil sedge]

of course its worth pointing out mostly any build can run big boom as long as u dont hit a immune to your own damage type remnant like at most u might gimp your damage a lot or somtehing

coz there's not really enough remnants in a single map

but the more remnants there are, the more the build choice matters

[fossil mural]

Phys dot ignores res, and you can get 10% damage from maim

[tranquil sedge]

and if u farm logbooks well its just effectively a huge remnant chain

[astral shadow]

Is there a reliable wither source?

[fossil mural]

I looked into it and it looked bad so I think cf is better

[paper root]

Imagine getting the mirage node that converts scrolls into currency and converts all into divines

[tranquil sedge]

wither totems, withering step, unholy might flask, withering touch support, balance of terror wither on hit, etc etc

depends on ur build and what u want it for

plenty of sources

[errant hatch]

RE: Merchant stash tabs
These turned out to work decently? I just bought the six pack. You guys still find the "manual" third party trading needed?

[tranquil sedge]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Withered

[fossil mural]

Early on especially

You getting no real wither

[tranquil sedge]

well those tabs are just for listing items

you stil use the trade site to get to people's hideouts to buy the item

the tabs just remove the need for someone to be online

[fossil mural]

I think that wand that applies full wither for 8 seconds might be usable?

[tranquil sedge]

so u just teleport in, buy item, and go back

no human interaction required

and

These turned out to work decently?
yes, ofc.

[astral shadow]

Merchant tabs is all u need for trading, and some non-trade tabs to store items then a currency tab, and possibly fragment/map tab then ur fully upgraded with tabs

[runic vine]

I have not listed an item for manual sale since the change

[errant hatch]

Yea. So I can list items then go to bed. Or not have to port out of a map for the person to never show, correct?

[tranquil sedge]

yes.

[runic vine]

Yeah

[icy swan]

will this new sion be cheaper tanky etc ?

[fossil mural]

We dont have the nodes lmao

[crisp obsidian]

we do not know

we will see today or tomorrow

[runic vine]

We don't know quite yet

[icy swan]

when we get info ?

[fossil mural]

They should arrive today

[leaden quiver]

we will know this evening

[errant hatch]

Cool beans. I had a mix of Awakened POE trade and Trace Companion or something.

[fossil mural]

They said monday

[icy swan]

i see

[leaden quiver]

in like 6-16 hours

3-16 hours

[tawdry olive]

can we put volality support on that

[astral shadow]

Didnt see any unique that would give giga buffs to tankiness so i guess no but have to wait

[runic vine]

I do still use Awakened for price checking but that's it

[crisp obsidian]

"sorry, reliquary nodes are not 100% ready yet so we are releasing them tomorrow. instead take a look at these two new uniques!"

[icy swan]

if she can paly with shield and block i gues should be fine ish

[fossil mural]

(they are dogshit)

[leaden quiver]

would be cool

why is that skysunder sword so bad

why is the dps so low

wtf

[tranquil sedge]

if only they had time to make it in time for a highly anticipated reveal

[crisp obsidian]

they need to be working on poe2 patch sorry

no time

[fossil mural]

Ggg made a unique item no one will want to use and then nerf the primary uses for those uniques

You cant make this shit up

[tranquil sedge]

sadge

[icy swan]

i gues i seen summons buffed - so like necromancer ?or whatever its colled in this game forgot ; p

[paper root]

Unique weapons have always been an issue

[tranquil sedge]

what nerf?

isn't skysunder just a different/alternate fulcrum now?

[crisp obsidian]

atleast lioneyes glare is interesting now

[fossil mural]

Self ignite was giga nerfed, and you cant use mamba for poison version

[tranquil sedge]

self ignite was nerfed?

[fossil mural]

Half the explode damage, no refresh

[astral shadow]

Here is my predictions:

1.ggg release reliqirian
2.some content creator overhype some thing on it
3.ggg do a last chance nerf on asc
4.no one play it cuz it will be worst ascendancy

Kf nerf cuz everyone hype it

[tranquil sedge]

jury still out on mamba until they update the patch notes like viperesque said

[normal hedge]

yes they removed toxic sewers from the map rotation

🥀

[tawdry olive]

toxic sewer my beloved...

[fossil mural]

I doubt the "cant apply more than one poison per hit" will get reversed

I mean its possible

[tranquil sedge]

if mamba can't hit with both weps at once then its just a weird trans gem

[fossil mural]

You dont care for that with the sword

[tranquil sedge]

i know but still

i want mamba to have a reason to live

brb apex match

[paper root]

I kinda want to bait myself with new holy skills, than regret it day 2 of league

[fossil mural]

Its possible they wont suck

Especially the autobomber strike

Static?

[tawdry olive]

same, holy hammer calling for me

[fossil mural]

Or whats it called

[tawdry olive]

inquisitor slams, power charge shenanigans

[molten hazel]

why cant it be tomorrow yet

[paper root]

They prob are good, GGG new skills have been solid and holy skills feel like poe2 Templar skills being tested

[molten hazel]

i need the info dump

[tranquil umbra]

Scion should be revealed today for all westerners

[light sundial]

Would you guys recommend exsang miner or la deadeye?

[fossil mural]

They are both fine

[molten hazel]

in how many hrs ?

[fossil mural]

I think miner will have better single target doe

With reap swap

[light sundial]

Fair

[stoic horizon]

4-12

[halcyon flicker]

So I see elemental hit is strong

[crisp obsidian]

neither

[halcyon flicker]

I always thought elemental hit was single target tho?

[light sundial]

Lol what do u recommend then?

[tawdry olive]

just live in the future

[stoic horizon]

single screen target

[crisp obsidian]

kf ballista into some actual good build

[strong totem]

Holy skills cannot fail

[halcyon flicker]

I thought it was literally the default melee attack

But with a random element which you can influence

[light sundial]

Some actual good build is..?

[stoic horizon]

its aoe got "slightly" buffed quite some time ago

[paper root]

Either I start as AWR or holy skills as of now. Could prob make a meme necro build with the holy skills if I wanted

[strong totem]

Fireball totems

[halcyon flicker]

Interesting

[ember goblet]

vaal fireball

[crisp obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WtuRCA-Aj8 does this look like default melee attack xdd

[stoic horizon]

fireball fireballs

[halcyon flicker]

Lmao

[brazen vector]

that looks funky

[strong totem]

Blazing fireball of wintry blast

[stoic horizon]

they deal "high" damage eh?

[fossil mural]

Very jazzy

[fossil mural]

And explode in a large area

[strong totem]

Flameblast totem traps is kind of good too

[molten hazel]

if its 12 then its tomorrow for me XD

[fossil mural]

Totem traps poggers

[strong totem]

Totem traps used to be a funny meme before crucible

[dreamy charm]

thinking bows or flicker strike in ssf next patch

[fossil mural]

Bleed bow gladiator

To solidify hatred for yourself

[tranquil umbra]

flicker with reliquarian?

for terminus node

[strong totem]

Is it today we get reliquarian info?

[tranquil umbra]

should be

[strong totem]

In the next 8hrs

[dreamy charm]

i was going to go zerker and try it out with flicker but idk the nodes are good for flicker on new auntie class

[fossil mural]

I guarantee you

The terminus node

Will be dogwater

[tranquil umbra]

trust the process salty

[strong totem]

I heard it's going to have a mage blood node

[fossil mural]

Megabald node

[tranquil umbra]

so true

[fossil mural]

1 util flask at 30% of effect

This is a buff

[gentle chasm]

how much time till the ggg interview with ziz

[icy zinc]

five billion hours

[icy zinc]

i will swap ele hit with frenzy strike of onslaught and equip ralakesh impatience for frenzy and claim this as mine

[crisp obsidian]

Boo

[icy zinc]

fancy

[tranquil sedge]

13 hours 47 minutes 15 seconds

-# give or take 100 hours

[icy zinc]

<t:1772383900:R>

[hardy heron]

How expensive do lightning dmg light of meanings tend to be in the first few days of a new league? They're currently at 1div, but it's the end of the league

[icy zinc]

lightning is most popular

so pricy

[tight plinth]

yes

[south marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/pathofexile-radiology-gif-27219962

[hardy heron]

Phys ones are way more expensive though. Are they just rarer?

[fossil mural]

Phys is more expensive this leg cause slams and phys dot

Will prob be different in 3.28

[stray sedge]

Idk that any particular mod on those jewels are rarer than others. Comes down to demand

[steady elk]

my favourite league start

[fossil mural]

I doubt its weighted

[steady elk]

name a more fun league start bros

[blissful zodiac]

when did wave of conviction of thrathrus get the nova tag?

always had it nvm

[split maple]

one last crop ship

[spice pecan]

just finished emptying most of my tabs

[past mantle]

Do we think we'll get the new runegrafts shown before league launch?

[whole bluff]

50/50

Uniques (all of them) - N, Runegrafts (all of them) - 50/50, Skills - Y

[south marlin]

show result later

[whole bluff]

Maybe supports aren't all revealed idk

[split maple]

supports better be in gem info

[whole bluff]

I hope so

[past mantle]

Yeah.

I'm still peeved off about the howlcrack change.

Something very disheartening about making the Kanai cube ascendancy and immediately worrying about the balance.

[tranquil umbra]

I mean you still want to keep it somewhat in check

[high path]

Hey quick question, is it better to practice for an upcoming league in the current challenge league (Keepers) or in standard?

[past mantle]

You need to keep it a lot less in check because it's gone next league.

[tranquil sedge]

even worse, worrying after showing it off

[hardy heron]

Probably standard, since league ends soon and breach won't be everywhere

[tranquil sedge]

like cmon just have someone look at it before u tease

[split maple]

eh i would do standard - idk how much tree is nerfed (we know no more weapons). + dont relly on gold gamba for gear, its also nerfed

[tranquil sedge]

standard.

and yea what he said ^

[brazen vector]

tbh they said none of the changes are final

[high path]

thanks y'all!

[livid quarry]

ggg listend to fubgun about gold gambling

[hard cliff]

what did he say

[heady cliff]

fubgun disappointed about gold gamba nerfs?

[past mantle]

Phew, glad fubgun said something about it, was mere moments from forming my own opinion. :xdd:

[fierce rock]

gold gamba nerfs? what happened?

[empty bronze]

I feel like ggg should add legacy support gems like in poe2

they are cool

[tranquil umbra]

...they literally are

this patch

[empty bronze]

I mean like more of them

[livid quarry]

ppl werent picking up rares early game cuz better gear from gold

[hardy heron]

There's over 40...

[past mantle]

They roll worse items.

[opal ingot]

let me guess, something like "they already nerfed breach tree, why include gamba"

[fossil mural]

What happened to them

[tranquil umbra]

this is the first patch they've been it doing it relax

[empty bronze]

I forgor that they didn't show all of them

brain fart

[fossil mural]

Ground loot saved pog

[opal ingot]

what about window loot.

[empty bronze]

hey chat

[past mantle]

Gloot.

[empty bronze]

I cooked a pizza, want a slice?

[fossil mural]

You mean

Lineage

[past mantle]

I am very excited for ground loot to stop being the buzzword of the month.

What's gonna be the next one?

[empty bronze]

Faustus async trade

[empty bronze]

yeah

[tranquil sedge]

skyloot

[whole bluff]

Ground slam

[empty bronze]

poe skyblock

[fossil mural]

Player agency

[arctic tundra]

just thought about putting a spell inside of a mine. youll never guess which spell

[tranquil umbra]

lootslop

[tranquil sedge]

fireball

[empty bronze]

eye of winter

[opal ingot]

frostblink

[empty bronze]

a trap

[past mantle]

I wish the players had the agency to shut up about ground loot.

[fossil mural]

Why the fuck did they nerf gold gamba

[haughty gale]

What is the point of sending ore to a further away port now? Will it give more currency or will the closest port be the best?

[tranquil umbra]

people already formed their opinion by listening to fubgun

[tranquil sedge]

we dont know how much yet so lets see 😄

[fossil mural]

The only difference is tatto/rune pools

[past mantle]

Because gold gamba rolled items with stupidly high bonuses.

[tranquil sedge]

also that ^

[opal ingot]

all i want for the gamba is to roll good sockets

[tranquil sedge]

and nothing wrong with forming an opinion based on fubgun, the guy is literally minmaxing this game and if even he says he's unhappy with loot, its just trickle down from there lol

[haughty gale]

I'd agree that fubguns loot takes are usually wrong but the map showcase he did was rather damning

[fossil mural]

The only thing I noticed is good socket rolls thats it

Personally

[nova thorn]

guys what are you playing next league? im thinking of starting some chaos skill

[past mantle]

Trickle down these nuts.

[haughty gale]

gonna hit us with 67 next?

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-lick-67

[past mantle]

I think Fubgun's far too neuron fried at this point to make any valuable insight for most people.

[fossil mural]

Thats what you did, but your mom fished out the used condom

[arctic tundra]

ggg needs to stop making so many cool skills. how am i supposed to pick one

[haughty gale]

randomizer

[fossil mural]

I actually find a lot of poe1 skills unappealing

[arctic tundra]

i dont

i love them all, mostly

[fossil mural]

I cant decide what to play cause everything looks meh

[haughty gale]

I usually pick a few strats that I want to try and farm and based on that pick a build that can do them

[fossil mural]

That sounds like a solid plan

[past mantle]

Is the cold archmage support just delegated to guardian/hiero?
Losing out on mana with MoM seems like a pain for the rest.

[fossil mural]

But then you need to know which strats will not suck

[livid quarry]

remember i complained bout ground loot before content creators talked bout it

[fossil mural]

Who are you

[livid quarry]

dementia

[icy zinc]

Holy

[haughty gale]

everyone complained about ground loot

people are going fubgun this fubgun that but truth of the issue is that loot from base monsters in a map has been completely fucked

fubguns input doesnt change that

[dim gyro]

there were just league mechs that covered up the problem so ppl didnt notice

[tranquil umbra]

oh I am not saying fubgun's opinion was bad

but people do not think and just copy his opinion

[fossil mural]

Chat, should a map drop one fusing with 200 quant

[opal ingot]

does fubgun think it's okay?

[past mantle]

That's not fair, they also copy Snap's opinion too.

[tranquil umbra]

TRUE

[haughty gale]

I love how there are both people who jsut copy his opinion and people who from an opposite opinion just because they dont like fubgun

[split maple]

taking some stock of league - was a fun one buildwise if kinda felt like minimum wage maping lootwise at times https://pobb.in/qjHS6vABBFFP , https://pobb.in/DgakGY-TerNN , https://pobb.in/FLtIt3oVw-4a

prolly gonna take next one a tad easier 😄

[fossil mural]

He doesnt think he blasts

[past mantle]

Venarius' Astrolabe is so good.

Love that thing.

[whole bluff]

Maybe I am blessed for not knowing what either of those opinions are

[fossil mural]

Ground loot bad

Literally thats it

[whole bluff]

I snooze on that topic

[tranquil umbra]

you should do reliquarian flicker with the terminus node

[brazen vector]

real

[past mantle]

Luv that item.

[whole bluff]

Gimme harvest or Alva

[split maple]

the only issue venarious has is there is no double corrupt options to minmaxy it

[past mantle]

Snap's video was pretty decent in terms of an overview of the history of the past few leagues and terrible in terms of conclusions on loot.

[brittle oracle]

Freedom at last

[fossil mural]

And what do you think is the "good" conclusion?

[opal ingot]

gz. enjoy the big ass totem

[brazen vector]

one thing I will only touch on accident

[fossil mural]

I know layouts well enough to avoid it always

[whole bluff]

To press your mental snooze button when streamer opinions are discussed

[past mantle]

Real.

Jiji is the only streamer with a good point so far.

[opal ingot]

what'd he say?

[tranquil umbra]

he said delete ground loot and revert km nerf

we play clash of clans

[fossil mural]

When did the internet become occupationist smh

[past mantle]

That league mechanics should drop generic loot even if you don't invest into them and that skipping them feels badge.

[brittle oracle]

i have plenty of them already.

[dark sequoia]

What is somatic shell good at?

[dim gyro]

You guys ready to read every single influenced map after using astrolabes?

[fossil mural]

Isnt that what ggg is trying to do in poe2

[past mantle]

His example was poe2, yes.

[tranquil umbra]

being bad

[fossil mural]

Except in poe2 you just get "free" investment into each mechanic

Since separate points

In poe1 it would have to be generic buffs

[past mantle]

Post-modernist Jiji completely trashing the modernist streamers with facts and/or logic.

[tranquil umbra]

they should have every mechanic on every map at the same time

[fossil mural]

Tbh I wouldnt mind if people wanted to block all mechanics and wanted to just drop loot from normal mobs

What was that keystone

[split maple]

Back to basics

[kindred silo]

b2b

[fossil mural]

Yea just keep that

Idk

[past mantle]

Chasing a generic drop pool has me sleeping. 💤

[haughty gale]

then dont, that the beauty of poe1

I like that we have so much specific customisation when it comes to end game

[tranquil umbra]

chasing a generic drop pool with league mechanics

[fossil mural]

Just give people the choice

[split maple]

Or just make risk scarbs common af and give them limit = 5 + cannot use other scarbs

[tawdry olive]

This was the answer to people who “just want to blast”, but yea others really didn’t like it and felt it too strong

[fossil mural]

And establish that normal mobs arent supposed to give loot

Without stuff like back to basics

[split maple]

And give some Phrecia style quant/packsize when fortune favore the brave nodes

[fossil mural]

Risk buffs other mechanics too

Balancing horror

Imho

[past mantle]

Honk shoo, honk shoo.

[split maple]

Some hard blasting content, no bullshit just 1min maps

[dark sequoia]

Impale wander?

[split maple]

Yea that's why make it only usable with no other scarbs

[crisp obsidian]

Wowowow I am not a streamer, please do not associate me with them 😭

[split maple]

So no harvest issues

[fossil mural]

Kboc yea

[past mantle]

That reminds me, is beach still in the game?

[tranquil umbra]

yes

[past mantle]

Okay cool, that means there's gonna be some giga blasting with Settlers ores.

[fossil mural]

Ewwe occupationcist

[split maple]

I rly wish it would be possible to go giga into impale on kboc, just pathing is too cursed & there is only one decent impossible escape spot and that isn't enough

[tranquil umbra]

toxic sewer is the only "good" map getting rotated

[tawdry olive]

Mesa still in too I believe, as long as Mesa is there I’m happy

[past mantle]

Mesa good too for that.

[tranquil umbra]

they showed mesa like 10 times in the trailer

it's staying

[split maple]

On phys kboc impale eldritch is still bis for pob damage tho with no other investment into impale I will forever find this funny

[dim gyro]

yea both breach and settler ores have that scarab that makes it more difficult+ reward each time you open one

[runic vine]

Impossible escape is for the impale chance right?

[fossil mural]

Ore farming + boss rushing + reliq room rushing

Surely

[split maple]

versatile combatant for brutal skewering yea, but it just isnt enough

or crimson dance for merciless skewering

[dim gyro]

whats reliq room?

[whole bluff]

Impale is one of those things that enable melee phys, while also taking too many passives imo

[fossil mural]

Room you get for completing an influence atlas blob

[hardy heron]

thing you get after clearing astrolabe area

[dim gyro]

ah didnt know that was the name

[hardy heron]

gives rewards based on map quadrant

[whole bluff]

Like warcries, rage, strikes, splash, strike range, AoE

[tawdry olive]

wouldnt this almost be just recreating back to basics?
then you get the same people complaining why the folks who "ignore the game/league mechanics" and dont have to strategize get equal or better reward vs those that do

[fossil mural]

It sounds soooo good for map rushing

[whole bluff]

Melee at least has a lot of options if limited points

[arctic tundra]

ngmi to friday. i need to login

[split maple]

a tad more risk for reward i feel

[tranquil umbra]

they should make it so risk scarabs always roll one brick mod

[split maple]

i just want ufrag rushing back with 5risks even if no more t17 and no more risks :/

[fossil mural]

Back to basics means you can also slot in other scarabs. And if you make it not cost scarabs its kinda too free?

[dim gyro]

Map rushing ur gonna have to just use the new keystone and hope that the mods you get from astrolabes are good ig

[fossil mural]

Map rushing you absolutely do not take the new keystone

You want to cut the influence blob

Reliably

I suppose depends on how it works?

Maybe you will cut faster this way

[tawdry olive]

someone will post a 5 page thesis about it day 2

[runic vine]

It's potentially mega high roll to expect it to be free but there is the potential for +60% free impale with the new currency that adds a free support to a skill gem, but I assume you're already running impale as a part of your 6L

[past mantle]

Enriching + new kalguuran scarab changes that give +2 ore per scarab instead of +1, so +4 total on that instead of +2. It's to make up for the map device but you didn't take that to begin with so just pure bonus.
Bismuth shrine unchanged.
Magic monsters scarab still there too plus bloodlines scarab not changed.
Plus the new influence currency thing.
Reasonable to get like 7 or 8 per map.
Think that's gonna end up pretty good as an end game farm option.

Ghost your 8th Verisium ore.

[tranquil umbra]

I think they made it so you cannot edit the nightmare maps with scarabs

[fossil mural]

Ghost?

[past mantle]

Ghost.

[fossil mural]

[hardy heron]

Synthesised Stability I believe makes the speed you clear the influenced somewhat area random
since you can get every area, or cut off parts of the area to shrink it quickly

[past mantle]

(This isn't an actual suggestion.)

[tranquil umbra]

so that they do not overshadow t16.5s as usual

[dim gyro]

yea i was planning on doing settlers this league after i saw the new scarab and changes to ore/crop. Feel like it's gonna be pretty good

[past mantle]

I think it will be pretty goodge.

[fossil mural]

Nightmare maps dont get strands or astrolabe bonuses

[dim gyro]

not sure how breach is though

[past mantle]

If not one of the better end game farms.

[fossil mural]

They will already be worse

[haughty gale]

Wasnt there a line that it like prefers maps with most connections first?

it shouldnt cut stuff off unless I hallucianted that

[past mantle]

And I'm happy with that because we need evo shrine alva difficulty content to do.

[dim gyro]

yea i think it's either gonna be like A to low S tier

[split maple]

idk why folks consider evo alva difficult content tho

[fossil mural]

What if they nerfed shipment

[split maple]

its just hh and computer check

[tranquil umbra]

also I think the voidstones only affect the maps in their own quadrant

[haughty gale]

I do want to try the enraged hive defense

[fossil mural]

Its difficult for the pc

[past mantle]

Don't think so, no.

[fringe ermine]

kf ballista on hiero cannot cap block attack if you go to the witch area lmaaaaaao

[tranquil umbra]

good

[haughty gale]

I dont believe so, the voidstones themselves dont say that and I saw the tier up animation affect the whoel atlas

[fringe ermine]

cannot go suppress either

[tranquil umbra]

good

it shouldn't have everything

[fringe ermine]

but it has almost nothing lmao

[split maple]

Cant you red nightmare in templar socket?

[hardy heron]

here's the keystone
Didn't say one way or another in the video

[tranquil umbra]

you are playing the dedicated totem ascendency

[fringe ermine]

nice idea

[haughty gale]

yeah last line

[tranquil umbra]

and have no mana issues

[wraith kraken]

Whats the best type of srs build

[past mantle]

Most likely dark monarch crit skulls.

[dim gyro]

You're going to have to run multiple different maps if u wanna giga juce mechs or rush for astrolabes i guess

[tranquil umbra]

you also get ancestral bond extremely early

[past mantle]

That's fine I think, gonna be a more reliable version of the memory altars.

[fossil mural]

People will just gamble on it staying alive as long as possible

[hardy heron]

Yeah so it can delete part of the area. Specifically the smallest part. I might have misunderstood what you were saying

[split maple]

There better be harvest beasts astrolabe thingies

[dim gyro]

I just think imma get tired of having to read everytime you clear a map to see what new mods there are

[fossil mural]

Unless there is a place where multiple map layouts are good

Which I doubt

[haughty gale]

basically on the rare chance something gets cut off its only ever gonna be like one

[past mantle]

Do different maps and get more things or be comfy and get less things is always a fair exchange.

[haughty gale]

unless you are target farming a map in the very corner and get unlucky

[tranquil umbra]

einhar astrolabe final added mod will be harvest beasts

trust

[fossil mural]

Sometimes map layout is too important, and speed per map will differ greatly too

[past mantle]

Einhar astrolabe final added mod will be you can capture einhar.

[fossil mural]

Comfy doesnt cut it

[haughty gale]

I mean, wont harvest beasts being gone make regular harvest more profitable since there is less supply?

[karmic gust]

as long as its not forced but didnt they really not buffed anything this league as far as the baseline mechanics go

outside of exped

[split maple]

Harvest beasts is for synths

[tranquil umbra]

harvest beasts have nothing to do with regular harvest

[karmic gust]

so i feel like we will be very reliant on running different maps

[haughty gale]

oh right I am confusign that with the other tihng

[past mantle]

I dunno how reliant, that I can judge after.

[split maple]

The large grove kirac mission ye that's different one

[haughty gale]

there too much stuff in this game

xd

[glass elk]

can you do quest bosses/void stones decently with kb not looking to get carried, ok it's bad for Ubers and stuff

[fossil mural]

Bruh imagine running different layouts is basically mandatory

Oh the whining

[past mantle]

Oh wait, with memories gone harvets beast prices are gonna skyrocket aren't they?

[haughty gale]

people should be able to play the game the way they enjoy it

I dont think thats whining

[split maple]

Yeah that's my worry, since without some harvest beast thingie added to compensate it's like one vulture per 30 maps scarbed

[tranquil umbra]

I realized crop rotation is dead because no more kirac mods

[strong totem]

Every league they don't buff fireball is a fireball nerf it's being power crept out of the game

[split maple]

That's kinda not acceptable

[dim gyro]

The reveal shows that you will get alot of mods that are unrelated to the mech u'll be running. Not sure how the weights are gonna be.

[haughty gale]

I like that with the node you can run the same map but sometimes be a little bit punished where as the guy that runs different maps wouldnt

[soft perch]

think ppl are rly sleeping on the new toughness scarabs

[fossil mural]

Crop rotation was better without woke scarab in keepers like most of the league lmao

[tranquil umbra]

I hate crop rota anyway

[soft perch]

toughness legion and toughness hive fortresses might be good as hell

[past mantle]

Kalguuran and breach ones?

[soft perch]

yea and exped

[past mantle]

Yeah, those will defo be good.

[karmic gust]

well the exped one looked strongest

idk about legion tho

[crisp obsidian]

Why

[soft perch]

i think hive fortresses looks the strongest

[karmic gust]

and i have no opinions about new breach xd

[past mantle]

Fortress was already good loot if you did wisps tbh.

[soft perch]

they dropped a lot of loot

[fossil mural]

Didnt they make it so chests have an aoe

[soft perch]

ye

[karmic gust]

because they nerfed most of stuff again

[past mantle]

Just way too long.

[karmic gust]

and only buffed like few scarabs

and added

[soft perch]

i mean

astrolabes defo add a lot of juice

[past mantle]

If you can juice it more it'll be very giga I think.

[karmic gust]

so it feels like most of juice will be reliant on the astrolabes

and mirage

[dim gyro]

RNG juice though

[crisp obsidian]

Oh I thought you meant running diff maps = multiple layouts mb

[karmic gust]

i mean thats what im saying but that forces you to rotate

[soft perch]

it doesnt super force u

[hardy heron]

Seem to be either generic or focused on their mechanic, though. Wonder if there will be stuff on atlas tree to affect these odds?

[tranquil umbra]

keystone lets you not rotate

[soft perch]

its 70% effective just spamming one map probs

[crisp obsidian]

You can click keystone

[fossil mural]

Depends on how aggressive the keystone is

[crisp obsidian]

To not rotate

[past mantle]

Mirage juicing is gonna be insane no matter what.

[crimson hearth]

is hh good for expedition

[icy zinc]

ayo summ teasers

[past mantle]

Yeah.

[potent bramble]

That's from a Blight astrolabe, right? So that's 3 modifiers that are exclusive to Blight, 2 that just give a substantial amount of juice (more currency and scarabs, not increased), one that gives a small amount of juice, and then 5% pack size which isn't a ton but it's always nice

[icy zinc]

sorta

[crisp obsidian]

Where

[soft perch]

i think it evens out in doing good map only vs also bad maps

[karmic gust]

if its 70%-ish effective then yea that sounds fine

[soft perch]

to where the keystone is fine

[dim gyro]

I just think it'll feel bad if u do it and then u dont get any other mods that buff the mech lol

[icy zinc]

nowhere

i needed to add question marks

[karmic gust]

we will seee

[crisp obsidian]

Keystone had no negative to it on stream atleast

[tranquil sedge]

also we don't know how many maps it took for that many lines to spawn right

so i feel like its too early to comment on that

[crimson hearth]

soo worth swaping out full res belt for it?

[soft perch]

it does

[haughty gale]

depending on where the one map is in the quadrant, if it's in the corner bisections will be more likely, if it's in the middle you will be very unlikely to loose areas

[karmic gust]

but still feels like it competely depends on these new mechanics actually being good

[fossil mural]

Also its possible the more mods the map has the better they roll

[crisp obsidian]

Huhh

[karmic gust]

because the base for sure sounds worse

[fossil mural]

You missunderstand it a lil bit

[icy zinc]

are ya'll discussing expedition astrolabe, cus of fkn course some maps gonna feel terrible 💀

[past mantle]

The bisection part namely.

[icy zinc]

login

[karmic gust]

and obviously the astrolabes need to make up for no t17s right

and also for the base mechanics being weaker somewhat

at same time

[fossil mural]

Keystone can actually cut your map out early

[haughty gale]

basically if you got the synthesized stability node just dont farm a map in the very corner of a quadrant

[past mantle]

I hope that they don't make the astrolabes too rare.

That'd be ass.

[haughty gale]

I imagine they will be common

[tranquil umbra]

1 every 10 map go

[potent bramble]

That's true, although I can't imagine they'd design it where the astrolabe spawns irrelevant modifiers. "Your maps have one additional blight" and "Syndicate members have a 10% chance to be accompanied by the leader" wouldn't make any sense to put together... so my assumption is everything is either gonna be directly tied or at least mildly impactful

[karmic gust]

because doubling currency drops for everyone i think is net 0 change anyway

[haughty gale]

they are replacing map device crafts

[karmic gust]

so i dont rly consider that one like anyhing

[dim gyro]

thats from the reveal thats the last of 6 maps

[past mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lost-mind-share-this-cat-gif-10624429942940364630

[potent bramble]

Can't lose what I never had! 😄

[crisp obsidian]

Oh didn't read description, L ggg

[hardy heron]

Think astrolabes are a post-incarnation thing, based on my interpretation of the voidstone

[soft perch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lost-mind-share-this-cat-gif-10624429942940364630

[icy zinc]

seems like bissection is high unwanted

[haughty gale]

he didnt word that right, it's not doubling really, it stuff you didnt pick up before sometiems being converted into currency now

double was a poor choice of words

[icy zinc]

cus cut in two parts

[soft perch]

it always had to have a downside sir, but it evens out for sure

[fossil mural]

If upgrades dont target mechanics you are doing or have synergy it will be the worst shit ever

[crisp obsidian]

This isn't poe2

[past mantle]

I mean, if it had no downside you just always take it.

[soft perch]

i mean

[past mantle]

You'll still likely take it anyways.

[soft perch]

if it had no downside youd never care about the geographical event shit so its fair

[icy zinc]

even singular focus has downsides

[past mantle]

Comfy mapping > rewards.

[soft perch]

its probably better if youre a gamer to click it than otherwise

[karmic gust]

wait is it conversion? well that sounds even scarier :d

[icy zinc]

(guardian maps)

[karmic gust]

but ok that one at least scale well

[pliant hamlet]

Do we know how proc gems work w/ the new system? EG: If I get CWC on cyclone, is it linked to the other gems?

[soft perch]

conversion from equipment items

[haughty gale]

they talked about it in the interview

[soft perch]

which does mean uniques will probably drop less lol

[dim gyro]

You mean like additional strongboxes?

[past mantle]

I gotta watch the interview now.

[karmic gust]

yea maybe i should watch it too xd

[icy zinc]

holy shit strongbox with blight

skull emoji

[karmic gust]

rarity meta

again

hell yea

[tranquil umbra]

I do like that astrolabes work very nicely with dplay since you would normally want to change maps anyway

[hardy heron]

I think it's specifically non-unique equipment

[pliant hamlet]

link? 😮

[hoary scarab]

truly a poe2 moment

[haughty gale]

It will still be better to take the same map node, you can run a practiced map in 1-3 minutes where as runnign random maps will just take longer, over a large sample size I am pretty comfident that running the same map will be more loot

[soft perch]

agree

[icy zinc]

get your magic find character ready

[past mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBv6SfYnNSg

[fossil mural]

It probably doesnt matter which rarity the gear is

[past mantle]

Yep, agreed.

[pliant hamlet]

oh this

[karmic gust]

hopeully lol

[hoary scarab]

if its conversion, it does

[karmic gust]

but we had this mechanic

already

so it probably does

[soft perch]

i think the one exception will be like, group play allflames

[potent bramble]

That is... mildly concerning. But all the same, I have confidence. And I'll continue to have confidence until it's deployed and actively bad lmao

[soft perch]

and im ngl

[hoary scarab]

archnem says hi

[stoic horizon]

ziz stream already up, so we can expect the interview within few h

[fossil mural]

I remember he said it wasnt conversion, it was "removing weight from things no one picked up"

[whole bluff]

I think I will skip keystone and try to just speedrun the bad layouts first, with low juice. Then juice hard on the good maps

[soft perch]

i dont give a fuck if group play has to play poe2 towers for multi div maps

[icy zinc]

157% for your strongbox to be unique ...

[past mantle]

Real.

[strong totem]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3913568

Maybe this is useful for you

[tranquil umbra]

I'm more interested in what the opalescent strongboxes can drop

[karmic gust]

if you are doingthis arent you effectively wasting time then

[dim gyro]

I mean still RNG. the bad layouts could be the ones with all the good modifiers and the good layouts get nothing good for the mech

[karmic gust]

so might as well do 1 map

but with proper juice

idk

[whole bluff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fossil mural]

Its possible there will be spaces on the map with good maps clustered

[tranquil umbra]

the generic map drop system will be so nice for progression

[karmic gust]

yea i maen that just says double currency so thats not that helpful :d

[crisp obsidian]

Time for db to add "best map clusters" to mapsofexile

[dim gyro]

Hey you can get 2 fusing from a t16 8 mod map now

[fossil mural]

Best astrolabe positions

[haughty gale]

I am really happy about the being able to pick a map thing now that the maps themselves are just generic tiers

[karmic gust]

idk if the site doesnt break after the atlas changes lmao

[haughty gale]

I hated always struggling becoems I sometimes didnt have that one specific map to get my completion

[leaden quiver]

god im goinna play dom blow leaguestart so hard

[karmic gust]

im grabbing the data from poedb but if the format changes

[fossil mural]

It was annoying for low tier farm too

[karmic gust]

its pin to debug

[leaden quiver]

unless holy strike is op

[karmic gust]

pain

[crisp obsidian]

Let's hope not too badly atleast

[past mantle]

Was that an issue outside of ssf?

[leaden quiver]

remember to put haunted mansion as the #1 map

[karmic gust]

and im downloading the atlas image manually lmao at league start when it changes

[leaden quiver]

GIVE US THE NEW ATLAS TREE HNNGG

[haughty gale]

ehhh, only if you hated trading and it's less now that we got async

still much more comfy now taht you dont have to do that

[split maple]

Any smexy hideouts unlockable in 3.28 that werent now?

[past mantle]

Why not horizon them?

[pliant hamlet]

it's cost 10ex or 10d for a single map in the past

[whole bluff]

Holy strike seems like it could be really good, but I'd bet on some complication making it not so

[haughty gale]

didnt have enough sometimes

[split maple]

Wasn't that pretty much Just doryani

[pliant hamlet]

tbf, full clearing the atlas wasn't as valuable back then, but it has been expensive numerous times in the history of poe

[soft perch]

holy strike seems funny

[split maple]

Which is for challenge not for atlas

[soft perch]

idk if its good

but it seems funny

[leaden quiver]

it seems like the only skill which can use Hallowed properly

tbh

[fossil mural]

Essence farming. You had to find a bulk of low tier maps, and then roll them yourself for more rares. Super annoying, sometimes those didnt exist on sale at all.

[soft perch]

wilma holy strike 10 fuckin aps

[pliant hamlet]

I wasn't even thinking of doryani, I don't think it's ever been that expensive has it?

Perandus was like 18ex way back when

[split maple]

20div late settlers

[whole bluff]

Lmao

[karmic gust]

unless the minions have their own attack speed like focused ballista :d

[past mantle]

Thats not completion tho.

[fossil mural]

Nvm den

[leaden quiver]

hallowed is like 50% phys added as fire for it

i wanna know more hallowed mechanics

[soft perch]

does it not work

[leaden quiver]

can minions apply it in any way? the support gem not really

[soft perch]

its not btw

its 25%

[opal ingot]

if you apply purification powder on the hallow, it turns to normal

[soft perch]

you can just apply 2 instead of 1 as guardian

it doesnt mean u get 50%

[split maple]

Low tier maps were kinda super easy to farm with memory threads tho

[karmic gust]

well you cant make focused ballista attack faster than its own attack speed

even though it totally sounded like that when they announced the gem

and this sounds the esame

[leaden quiver]

hm, do we know if they arent all consumed?

when minions hit

[opal ingot]

oops it can't mybad

[dark sequoia]

can you only get matching color supports enchanted on gems

[soft perch]

it says removes a stack no?

[karmic gust]

or at least smilar

[fossil mural]

Time spent farming your own maps is time spent not doing the strat

[opal ingot]

oops it can

[split maple]

No

[icy zinc]

wilma holy strike holy shit

wait what

[pliant hamlet]

hogm clears were pricy at one point
Cortex has spiked in price a few times
Perandus Manor was incredibly expensive its entirely lifetime
after that it's just the normal cower's trial/putrid cloister I think

[fringe ermine]

best place that I found for a red nightmare

[crisp obsidian]

Wilma generals cry holy strike

[split maple]

Tradie problems 😉 just become a t8 strand seller lol

[tranquil umbra]

tf is wilma doing there

[karmic gust]

i mean if it woks then it will be nice ofc and you just do necro or some shit

[dim gyro]

idk how im getting downvoted for stating what the new astrolabe keystone does. Did i say something wrong?

[leaden quiver]

depends on the mechanics

[whole bluff]

Sounds to me like holy strike gives you 3-4 minions attacking with the stats of your weapon. So you go spiritaul command

And minion cluster

[icy zinc]

im quite sure holy strike hits as soon as you hit

not the other way around

[hardy heron]

based on the coin you used. So you can get a random, say, blue support on earthshatter

[icy zinc]

like sacred wisps

[fossil mural]

You will have to match your as and minion as if they have their own. Which is garbanzo gaming

[strong totem]

Arcane surge earthshatter

[soft perch]

this is not the wording of something that gains 50% if a mob has 2 stacks instead of 1

[crisp obsidian]

Your first problem was thinking reddit cares if you right or wrong

[whole bluff]

Nah, just dont get any non minion AS

[leaden quiver]

would it make sense to apply it twice then?

[whole bluff]

And use spiritual command

[leaden quiver]

that seems like something that doesnt matter at all

[soft perch]

it doesnt apply it twice

[icy zinc]

reddit moment medal

[soft perch]

it means a mob can have 2 stacks

[leaden quiver]

but that node looks bad anyway

[soft perch]

instead of 1

[dim gyro]

the guy i was replying to was saying that the new keystone will take the mod of the map that gets deleted

[fossil mural]

But then you gimp your attack speed, especially with stuff like onslaught

[soft perch]

it says you can inflict, not you inflict, which is +1 maximum, not +1 inflicted stack

[leaden quiver]

yeah but whats the usecase for that

hmmigi

[fossil mural]

If you have onslaught and minions dont then its async

[icy zinc]

bazooka can inflict hallowing flame, fr fr

[whole bluff]

I wouldn't think onslaught is overly required. You're a summoner. The problem is the upper middle templar starting notable

[soft perch]

hallowing flame seems kinda ass idk

[karmic gust]

so you stack the guardian node faster? as minions will consume both at once maybe? idk

[hardy heron]

Not that one specifically, but you could get say immolate support

Has to be a compatible gem

[fossil mural]

Attacking faster than holy strike minions is same as critting more often than coc cooldown allows

[whole bluff]

Incidental attack speed that doesnt go to minions needing to be avoided can for sure be a problem

[fossil mural]

Its giga dps loss

[karmic gust]

could;ve been at least generic more not shitty 25% phys as extra fire

[leaden quiver]

splaff says they dont consume them

at once

[karmic gust]

idk what are you even supposed to do with such weak conditional buff

[leaden quiver]

it does

[whole bluff]

So dont do it. Just accept that it's a summoner

[leaden quiver]

need more info on it

[icy zinc]

and will attack the enemies you target with Holy Strike.

[soft perch]

this reads like only one stack gets removed

[icy zinc]

i hope so

[soft perch]

even if a mob has 2 stacks

[true falcon]

I think Unleash Hexblast of Havok might be playable

I'm struggling

[leaden quiver]

anyway sounds like a non-pick still

you just get block node + 4 minion nodes

[icy zinc]

successfully made

[leaden quiver]

and take farrul or trialmaster next

xd

[icy zinc]

what a way to word things

[fossil mural]

Hallowing flame does seem like something youd put on ag lule

[tranquil umbra]

ag of self-reflection

[fossil mural]

It will do fuck all for multiminion builds

[leaden quiver]

not even

[tranquil umbra]

no that was aw

[leaden quiver]

minions cant apply it

as we know it

[icy zinc]

lightning golem of hordes hallowed flame

[leaden quiver]

supreme truth maybe the unique

[soft perch]

yea they can

theres a new support gem

[leaden quiver]

but the support gem cant make them apply it

Added a new Strength/Intelligence Support Gem, Hallow: Supports melee attacks you use yourself, causing them to inflict Hallowing Flame on melee hit. Does not modify skills used by minions

[tight plinth]

i think gem says you cant use on minion

[tranquil umbra]

Greater Hallow Support

can be used on any skill

[soft perch]

wait i didnt read that part

[fossil mural]

They might add uniques and stuff

[tranquil umbra]

trust

[soft perch]

lul

f

[icy zinc]

i mean only templar gains 80% of phys as extra light

[soft perch]

then it sucks

[fossil mural]

But yea as it is

Its a buff for like

Reaper buids

Or ag

[karmic gust]

so theres no way to even get it for yourself?

[icy zinc]

reaper roids

[karmic gust]

as im assuming getting it rfom totems wont work anyway

[leaden quiver]

there is a cluster jewel thing

[fossil mural]

With tools with have

[leaden quiver]

its on melee hit

so you'd have to use dawnbreaker totems

[fossil mural]

New uniques maybe

[leaden quiver]

xd

it looks very bad

[tight plinth]

all of them are on melee hit no?

[fossil mural]

Its dogshit

[hardy heron]

have friends

[icy zinc]

hallow support is given on fuckin hillock area as first support

[leaden quiver]

remember

[karmic gust]

weird ass mechanic

[icy zinc]

it has to be something mid

fr

[leaden quiver]

this is a game where Excommunicate gloves

are a thing

xddd

[icy zinc]

The Templar now wakes on the Twilight Strand more in touch with his faith: the starting skill gem for Templar is now Holy Strike, and the starting support gem for Templar is now Hallow Support

[leaden quiver]

and they're t1 too

[icy zinc]

woken up

[karmic gust]

this is never gonna be used in party play either i dont think :d

[leaden quiver]

sounds like hallow is good only for holy strike

[karmic gust]

unless you want your aurabot guardian or some shit go and hit stuff with smite melee hit

[icy zinc]

i cant image how fukd hillock gonna be with holy strike

you gonna smack his ass unreal

[tight plinth]

i think you can stack more than 1 debuff per hit

[true falcon]

Big day today, GGG about to announce sweeping buffs on unplayed skills!

[tight plinth]

im guessing

[fossil mural]

How is it good? You summon 4-8 of them

[karmic gust]

but it has limit of 1

no

[fossil mural]

And only one benefits per flame

[halcyon flicker]

Never thought I'd see harbingers being removed before Syndicate tbh

[karmic gust]

so that doesnt even rly matter

[icy zinc]

i guess glacial hammer froze his ass

[halcyon flicker]

Terrible mechanic

[karmic gust]

harbis are just temp removed right

[fossil mural]

Lol what

[icy zinc]

syndicate was reworked hundred times

[shrewd fiber]

when / where is the new interview today?

[leaden quiver]

do we know you summon 4-8 of them?

[icy zinc]

its importanto

[tranquil umbra]

they want to rework it yeah

[leaden quiver]

we have only seen 3 max, right?

[true falcon]

3.29 is Harbinger returns for sure

[fossil mural]

We can see 4 in the trailer

[leaden quiver]

interesting

[fossil mural]

And then the helmet

[soft perch]

syndicate is way more polished than harb why are u surprised

[halcyon flicker]

And you still need a PhD to understand it

And outside the game knowledge

[tranquil umbra]

complexity does not mean its bad

[halcyon flicker]

Wikis, videos

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[soft perch]

harb is like, some random blue human npc that floats in the air and creates random mobs

[icy zinc]

well

[soft perch]

it has god awful flavour

[karmic gust]

also i never heard anyone talk about the hiverborn support when talking abou all this minion shit

[leaden quiver]

very bad performance too

lmao

[karmic gust]

surely that one has potential

[leaden quiver]

it looks bad

only supportive for forged frostbearers

[dim gyro]

does syndicate still reset the board when u kill caterina?

[true falcon]

We should remove all crafting because you need outside tools to do it right

[leaden quiver]

if you dont want to use dark monarch

xd

[icy zinc]

@halcyon flicker https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Immortal_Syndicate guess its time for you to read this with a cup of coffee for literally 15 min

[fossil mural]

And feels bad to play with all the cooldowns

[icy zinc]

very phd

[tranquil umbra]

also yeah harbis fucking sucked for my pc

[past mantle]

Look at the llayerbase bruh, I swear to god we are never getting an actual complex mechanic in this game. 😭

[karmic gust]

are the minions bad or

[icy zinc]

it was brittle before

now its just frost

probably good utility

[leaden quiver]

why would they be good its a small limit

and they apply frost

[fossil mural]

Temple still happened, and it had a lot of quirks

[icy zinc]

tbh graft applying brittle was super good

[halcyon flicker]

0iq disingenuous statement. I'd say crafting is super easy to understand

[karmic gust]

14 isnt rly small limit

[icy zinc]

i had 3.8% brittle on maven

[tranquil sedge]

anyone wanna give a crafting steps i posted for someone a lookover in case i missed something obvious

#1┃crafting-advice

[past mantle]

I want something like temple in 1.

[tight plinth]

i dont see said somewhere its limit of 1, also mark said this in showcase

[icy zinc]

99 holy strike arnaments

[karmic gust]

well guardian has can apply +1 hallowing flame

[icy zinc]

• dark monarch

[stoic horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohv-7yCZZOM
carn unethical bug abuser smh

[icy zinc]

login

[karmic gust]

so its definitely some shitty low limit at least

[tight plinth]

i think you can apply 2 per hit

as guardian

[karmic gust]

no it just says can apply

[true falcon]

You can describe a Syndicate strat in like 20 seconds "Get Grav and someone else in transport, put everyone else in the rest, always execute and only run transport safehouses"

[karmic gust]

not apply

[icy zinc]

wtf is this carn thumbnail xdddddddddd

[empty bronze]

i dont get why ggg hasnt made which skill gems a support works on searchable

[leaden quiver]

problem is

[karmic gust]

can apply will never mean 2 on hit

[fossil mural]

Poe1 tourist lmao

[leaden quiver]

minions deal damage like 50 times a second

and the player not so much

[halcyon flicker]

You already lost me there lol

[empty bronze]

like you know the little box at the side when you hover over a support gem?

[leaden quiver]

cant even abuse it with like, molten strike

or anything xd

[unique crown]

has anyone seen a non bait holy hammers build yet?

[icy zinc]

carn: WOTOFOK DUDE

[empty bronze]

just make the ones that work added to the search

[stoic horizon]

but yeah tldr due to some weirdge stuff autoexert doesnt get the cost multiplier from arrogance

[karmic gust]

just put it on regular slammer

[tight plinth]

well either the description is misleading or what mark said on the showcase is misleading

[karmic gust]

surely it cant be hard to pob

[empty bronze]

so you could search "eye of winter" and it would highlight all the support gems that eye of winter supports

[leaden quiver]

just regular slams and use a mace/staff

[karmic gust]

well one of them most likely changed right

[halcyon flicker]

How do you get someone in transport. What happens when you do this, why are you doing this, what outcome will this have. It's all very unclear

Not to mention minmaxing with blocking etc

Eternally boring

[fossil mural]

Yea Id rather hit invincible blue blobs

Peak gaming

[tight plinth]

yeah he keeps mentioning stack of hallowing flame in the showcase

[soft perch]

gen cry probably

[halcyon flicker]

At least you are hitting something instead of playing a dumb tabletop game

[true falcon]

Still easier to understand than 10 different crafting methods where each one is better or worse based on fracture, blocking, and weights.

[fossil mural]

Reminder they all forgot uber keys exist

[leaden quiver]

you can zoom into the nemeies

and see how many stacks they have

[past mantle]

I like how you call the other person disingenuous but then go "what the hell how do I move someone?????!"

[fossil mural]

Yes so good, go drool somewhere else

[past mantle]

C'mon cuz, you're surely better than that.

[halcyon flicker]

Umad lmao

[karmic gust]

but like i rly dont see how this gem is bad

like its smaller amount than the graft right

but you can support it with gems and actuall scale

[leaden quiver]

you can check the minions from it on poedb

[tight plinth]

tingzhii is building around that

[leaden quiver]

theyre the same as the graft

[karmic gust]

do you hve link i cant find them

[soft perch]

manual offerings

[leaden quiver]

no

[fossil mural]

Chance its changed maybe

[stoic horizon]

the worst prt is that its now cover in frost not brittle

[leaden quiver]

apply frost not brittle

I think thats the diff

[tight plinth]

says hes gonna trigger it on arcanist brand with trigger bots

[soft perch]

its just unusable because manual offerings dont exist

[past mantle]

My bad, guess interacting with the mechanic at all is too much to ask for. Maybe you weren't better than that cuz.

[fossil mural]

I mean the base minion

[karmic gust]

i mean that doesnt rly matter right

[valid coral]

this shit carry my dogshit build in this season

[soft perch]

u cant

[true falcon]

I hope exceptional gems are farmable ssf

[elfin shale]

Since it triggers a spell that summons hiveborn you cant socket this in like, Queen's Hunger right?

[soft perch]

no

[karmic gust]

well thats just altenrative to summoningthe minions normally

its same thing

[tranquil umbra]

they should be

[fossil mural]

They can be target farmed I believe, at least some

[karmic gust]

and you get benefit of summoning minion and offering with single button

[soft perch]

yea and is that worth 2 gem sockets, meh

[karmic gust]

not rly big downside

[soft perch]

perhaps 3 cuz u need corpses

[karmic gust]

i mean it could be

[halcyon flicker]

I think the concept of weights is extremely easy to understand compared to the whole Syndicate thing. You can make a case for the different mechanics you can use to craft, but they are their own individual mechanics

[past mantle]

Is 5 minions per manual cast really that bad when the max is 14?

[karmic gust]

spiders are good with 3 supports

[fossil mural]

Occu pag

No need for corpse

[tight plinth]

covered with frost is increased cold damage taken yeah?

[soft perch]

ye

[tight plinth]

just reverse of ash

[soft perch]

i think this gem is giga whatever

[opaque wing]

So, the big problem is minion crowding, if you get enough things, your main minions may not be able to reach your target to be able to do damage. I suspect It will be fine for 95%+ of builds though

[soft perch]

maybe the minions are ok

[karmic gust]

if this is any similar power level to spiders and you dont need fang for it then i can def see it being good

[thick goblet]

i'm guessing most of them will be reasonable with a few global ones being pretty rare
that's how it is in poe2

[past mantle]

Did you know that certain meta mods respecting annuls took like 3 leagues for people to find?

[halcyon flicker]

An average player is just going to do whatever when it comes to Syndicate and won't know what's even going on

[soft perch]

as a utility skill it sucks, as a minion skill maybe its good

[tight plinth]

the minions are okay, i think people used it last league

[karmic gust]

are these big?

[halcyon flicker]

Don't even lol

[karmic gust]

i never saw how the graft looks

[soft perch]

yea they get support gems and stuff now maybe thats alright

[tight plinth]

less crit chance damn

[fossil mural]

You mean annuls respecting meta mods

[soft perch]

the 5 second cd only summoning 5 is a bit cooked

[stoic horizon]

i used it on my dark pact and it was fine

[halcyon flicker]

That's just lack of transparency really

[stoic horizon]

but ig dp is different

[soft perch]

no it just means developers put things in the game for players to discover

cuz ppl enjoy discovery

[past mantle]

No certain meta mods. We knew they respected suffix and prefix but things like attack mods ee didn't.

[soft perch]

crazy really

[halcyon flicker]

Riiight