1┃general

[nova lion]

Thanks for explanation, well those are ancient times I see, I wasn't present there back then :]

[cobalt blade]

from panth +mageblood flask

Gonna be so much nicer next league

[ocean folio]

yea it feels nice being able to trust that mod at all in hc

[cobalt blade]

no more ziz reflect deaths ):

[tough cove]

zziz will find a way

[cobalt blade]

well i guess he might vaal smite on a minion build

but yknow there shouldnt be any more

[ocean folio]

he will still die because he doesnt read

[tough cove]

if anyone could find a way it would be either ziz or quinn

[cobalt blade]

Nah quins deals too little dmg to die

[tough cove]

lol true

[low lava]

He will die mid explanation of something.

Or some ragebait 😂

[thin hill]

I am trying to under this, why is incandescent invitation soo this expensive, considering that it doesnt drop any expensive uniques. is it just for forbidden flame?

[ocean folio]

forbidden flame is enough for this fight to have value

[thin hill]

yep its flames that when their price peaked

[low lava]

Maybe related to people not farming it and just buying to get the clear ?

Or yeah, the flames 😂

[cobalt blade]

quest version

[cobalt blade]

its just for flames

[modest depot]

some of the jewels are expensive

[low lava]

Yeah, forgot about flames.

[cobalt blade]

thats just someone price fixing for fun

[modest depot]

its merchant only

[cobalt blade]

yes

check trade

its all just 1 person listing e xcept one

lol

[thin hill]

fair, i wanted to see how hard it would be to farm for dissolution of the flesh day 2-3, seems its easier to drop a divine and buy it

[cobalt blade]

they just bought out the market for fun

real easy to do this late in the league

[modest depot]

i mean i can say that i've sold one

so people are buying them

🤷‍♂️

[low lava]

If ya need em, ya need em

[thin hill]

i have spent atleast 200div this league on flame/flesh gems

[low lava]

i only played like a week. So didnt get to anything near there XD

[thin hill]

i bought it at week 4 shit league though, hope mirage is better

[low lava]

think i made the accu stacker and stopped XD

[graceful bloom]

does poe ninja not have mirage league yet?

[thin hill]

🤣 it hasnt started yet

[uneven gust]

Takes 20ish maps to get, it's really cheap, sample size of 100 usually gives forbidden flame which can be dozens or hundreds of divine

Or is it seperate from uber now?

[low lava]

let it start first bud

[graceful bloom]

oh... xD

I thought it started already

[low lava]

friday 😉

[final owl]

mirage can't be worse than keepers. that's unpossible

[low lava]

All-nighters incoming 😂

[thin hill]

its sucks for me cause all poe leagues start at 7pm for me which means, i need to get my beauty sleep in 5 hours T_T

[uneven gust]

Keepers was p good

[final owl]

yeah i'm probs gonna take the following week off so i can be a proper degenerate

[uneven gust]

I'm guna farm act 6 mudflats and sell 5 links and 35 ms trires boots

[blazing spear]

I will probably not play w1

[cobalt blade]

separate from uber

[final owl]

unless opening weekend goes spectacularly badly for some unexpected reason i guess

[low lava]

Starts 8 in the evening for me. So im starting early with bud.

[cobalt blade]

uber jewels have 7 unique nodes

nine lives indomitable resolve unleashed potential fatal flourish and the other 3 arent real nodes

[onyx adder]

Is that a stat that would work on totems

[thin hill]

NICE,I train myself to sleep for 5hours for the last 2 weeks, and fell refreshed LOL

[uneven gust]

I'm starting going to work going home early playing the rest of the night going back to work for 12hr going home sleeping going to work 2 hrs going home and nolifing for the week

[onyx adder]

Kinda hard to tell

[blazing spear]

I will spend w1 being my dad's assistant

[cobalt blade]

i would assume no but reflect for totems is just a tank mod

not that much more than more life or w/e

[onyx adder]

My instinct is probably it does since its a modifier to your damage

So its probably an "offensive mod"

[uneven gust]

Post your leaguestarter using only standard emoji

[onyx adder]

Reflect is rly annoying on totems ngl

[low lava]

I just sleep when i can. Since i was a kid i have been able to function on 2-4 hours a day.

[onyx adder]

Ur just sitting there spamming totems for 17 years

No fun allowed

[tough cove]

i wish i could get more than 5 hours of sleep a night

[low lava]

sleep faster

[onyx adder]

Hiero totems might be playable now i suppose

[low lava]

Guess work, dont allow it XD

[onyx adder]

Its been one of those builds that ppl have coped on for years but if ur serious u never touch it

[split maple]

🪓 🩸 💤

[onyx adder]

Problem is still that if u want decent boss damage u have to play some ubergimp zero qol skill like ice spear or incinerate or stormburst or whatever

[low lava]

Aint no holy emote XD

[onyx adder]

But maybe theres something nice out there

[crisp sinew]

Yo, in the announcement they said the voidstones give global bonuses, but the animation showed that the bonuses only apply to the quadrant it was socketed in. which one do we trust? XD

[low lava]

probably global bonus to the section its connected to 🙂

[crisp sinew]

sooo, if u're only interested in altars, you get the first voidstone and that's it? XD

[low lava]

Dont take my word for it, but yeah. I think thats how it is

[main pike]

anyone got experience playing shield crush slayer/jugg/whatever and can tell me how the clear feels

seems like it would bbe acceptable

[ocean folio]

at least the nightmare map drop chance mentioned "per socketed voidstone" i think

[crisp sinew]

I hope that's not the case cuz that sounds like ass, lmao

[cobalt blade]

ya

[low lava]

Only done Shield crush as a act skill. Was fine on jugg.

[ocean folio]

why. thats also how it works currently

ah wait i missread

[hexed mountain]

I expect it to be map tier drop global and the boost to x or y mechanic is for the quadrant so you can slot it in the quadrant you farm

[crisp sinew]

it's not tho, with each voidstone, you get more bonuses (atm)

[hexed mountain]

So if i want to do altars on beach i put altar voidstone on the beach quadrant

[crisp sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/supergirl-want-gif-10146738

[low lava]

Just get all stones.
I need the new support gems XD

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-endgame-infinity-gauntlet-infinity-stones-power-gif-2147317492145410101

[rose vault]

what do i farm for currency now

[hexed mountain]

Nightmare maps probs locked behind stones slotted too

[rose vault]

they deleted my beloved harbies

[low lava]

betrayal+blight start league

[stoic horizon]

blight ewww

[low lava]

I love it 😂

[hexed mountain]

Fracture notable for betrayal looks amazing ngl

[rose vault]

meh guess i have to go back to essence prison

[low lava]

that gilded drop is always a nice profit boost.

[stoic horizon]

my pc doesnt

[crisp sinew]

well, no more endless blight waves, so, your pc will be fiiiiiiiiine

[low lava]

As long you have more then 2 fps, its good.

[stoic horizon]

not really, it struggles on normal blight if it spawns with more than 4 lanes

[low lava]

damn

[onyx adder]

Btw i just had a look, that mod is on the list of bullshit mods removed for 3.28

So ur safe

[crisp sinew]

right click to the metal and you only stop if you see 'blight complete' or you die
fr fr

[low lava]

i really need to push blight for it to drain my fps.
Tho, KB+Legion with deli on top is hard on ma PC

[frigid wedge]

me losing 20 fps just by clicking bismuth

[low lava]

shesh

I hope i can snag another 16 ram this week on the second hand market. See if that will help me on league start.

[crisp sinew]

bismuth tornados annoy me to the point where I don't wanna play glass cannon builds anymore cuz they always 1tap me if I don't see the ore on the minimap

[tight plinth]

funny enough ram prices havent changed in my country

at least in the second hand market

[crisp sinew]

and which country would that be, askin for a friend

to ba fair, with ram, you're pretty safe going 2nd hand

[tight plinth]

i dont think SEA countries were affected much by ram shortage

[placid inlet]

Poe is mainly CPU driven

Ofc ram is not going to hurt but

[low lava]

Its not bad here either, but there are some greedy ones. Thinking a 5+ year old ram stick is 100% its price 😂

[crisp sinew]

can't really play poe with 16gigs of ram these days tho

[frigid wedge]

my issue is the 8 billion particles that id adds for no reasob

[tight plinth]

yeah bismuth can get bent

[low lava]

im able to, tho i had to really debloat windows and remove alot of shit 😂

But if i can find atleast 8gb more, it would be awesome. Even tho its not ideal

[ocean folio]

16gb ram on windows are kinda rough if you also use other software at the same time

[tight plinth]

same, there are some that think its going to sell but the listing is months old

[final owl]

the second hand market will dry up because it will be bought up by resellers if nobody else

[crisp sinew]

I mean you can, but if you don't use pob + a browser at the same time
there's a huge difference with how the game feels once you reach 90% ram usage

[lucid gale]

The more the merrier!

[low lava]

hence why i debloat yeah 😄

[stoic horizon]

just sell your kidney for 128 gb ram

[final owl]

if you run windows you should debloat regardless.

[low lava]

While you can buy a used 3080 for like 300€ now

[low lava]

If i was to sell my kidney, which i cant in Denmark.
I would buy a house, not some ram 😂

[lucid gale]

I'm against it, personally.
A lot of the things people do tend to play a bit too loose with Windows components they don't understand, breaking things subtly.

[stoic horizon]

fake gamer smh

[lucid gale]

While there's some things that ought to be tuned, tooling to mess with things tends to enable quite some ruckus.

[low lava]

Just buy a pc on the house after 😂

[stoic horizon]

ur being reasonable, thats not a gamer trait

[low lava]

agree, but if you "only" game and google. You can do alot, but you still gotta be super careful.

[final owl]

If you want to not feel like you're renting your PC from Microsoft it's neccessary. imho. Sure it requires at least middling understanding of what you're doing.

[lucid gale]

It's great fun when you're elbow deep into how Windows launches executables because someone removed a bit too much of the Windows Store.

[low lava]

Well, only getting older in life. Gotta make sure youre comfy.

[ocean folio]

i feel personally attacked

[lucid gale]

Did you know that if you have particular kinds of modern manifests for your executables, some parts of the infrastructure that enables Windows Store needs to survive?

I've had users for hobby software that were trying to run it on Windows PE 😄

[low lava]

Me with no store itself >_>

[final owl]

I mean i gut the thing the moment it's installed. I am not a microsoft fan. putting it lightly.

[ocean folio]

also did the same for years. solved that by not using windows anymore

[low lava]

i remove what i can, i just need games to run and my visual code/studio to work.

[stoic horizon]

yesterday ive talked to someone who even deleted goddamn notepad and wondered why he cant edit minecraft mod config files

[final owl]

I need to set up a dual boot situation so i can only use it when neccessary tbh. I'm just lazy

[low lava]

Time to make it run on a calculator XD

[lucid gale]

640x480 ought to be enough for anyone 😛

Wanted to set up a potato machine to run PoB on, might've been a bit too potato.

[crisp plinth]

saves gpu costs for sure

[low lava]

Time to get a shitty windows tablet from temu 😂

[cobalt blade]

[hoary scarab]

im pretty sure my self checkout register has more computing power than this

[cobalt blade]

perchance was it an old nvidia gpu and cachy os tried to default to gsp drivers

[blazing spear]

zao, like what the fuck

[cobalt blade]

Because i encounter that constantly with mine lol(when reinstalling)

[low lava]

Thats what i have now, i tried gaming on linux. But it was too unstable for my needs. So i just have barebone windows for when i need it, else i am just on Linux now!

[blazing spear]

I use Steam for Linux

[lucid gale]

i7-6700T, 32G DDR4, onboard Intel Something 530 with VGA and 2x DP.

[cobalt blade]

oh igpu i see

[blazing spear]

And I avoid games that hate Linux

[lucid gale]

For some reason, Intel drivers under Linux refuse to go over 1024x768 over VGA, while Windows happily goes for 1080p.

[blazing spear]

This is why I quit LOL

[cobalt blade]

Fuck kernel anti cheats :3

[lucid gale]

Could run a vkcube at least.

[spice pecan]

i'd use linux but having to use terminal for everything and having an innate 50% chance to error out the ass is too much effort for me tbh

[final owl]

yeah thats the move. annoying it's still neccessary tbh. fingers crossed it's not in the forseeable future i guess

[native abyss]

what am i gonna play while i wait for the new league

[crisp plinth]

the 2000s called and want their opinion back

[low lava]

Room for like a lil Gt 1030 😛

[crisp plinth]

you barely need the terminal on any modern distro

[noble sleet]

That’s funny one of the qna questions was if rolling magma could get charged lmao. I guess it’s really op early on but god damn do I fucking hate that skill..

[blazing spear]

yea

[native abyss]

i try other game and nothing can replicate what the tink does for my brain

[stoic horizon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555708248519344159/943458507846475846/output.gif

[spice pecan]

also having to make a reddit post weekly on some 30 viewer subreddit about "linux compatibility?" is no bueno

[main pike]

I do IT stuff at work I don't wanna deal with any issues at home so I just use windows ez

[cobalt blade]

youd be surprised how little you actually need to touch terminal on modern Linux

[low lava]

i think, when the steam machine hits off. We will see more

[noble sleet]

And they’re removing tier 17 maps??

[crisp plinth]

i use windows at home and have issues

[cobalt blade]

for atleast gaming

[crisp plinth]

[blazing spear]

@lucid gale are the mamba changes final? they seem way too brutal

[lucid gale]

Nah, it's one of these little guys:

[final owl]

assuming AI hardware drought doesn't kill it before it's born :I but yeah that's the hope i spose. fingers crossed

[blazing spear]

My condolences

[lucid gale]

The 1060 3GB is in the e-waste server 😛

[cobalt blade]

fully expecting it to get delayed due to this lol

[stoic horizon]

zore please read patch notes for once

[crisp plinth]

it already got delayed

[lucid gale]

Or maybe it's a 1030. I don't remember.

[crisp plinth]

there was news in january about it

[low lava]

Ohhh. I have a cluster for my game servers with these!
Need to fix my docker setup argh.

[noble sleet]

Watching a video on it why would I do that

[blazing spear]

There isn't a 1030 with 3gb of RAM

[low lava]

Yeah, sadly quite delayed or not worth it yet.

[stoic horizon]

to answer your questions obviously

[main pike]

time to decide if shield crush or eow mines

[noble sleet]

Well I asked it out of shock I thought that would’ve been obvious lol

[lucid gale]

I installed Win11 on the home server when the recent texture clusterhug was going on - the world's most lopsided machine.

[crisp plinth]

ive been looking for laptop replacements for my tuxedo one that has no display out via usbc but its all various levels of jank nowadays

[final owl]

go watch a summary. some big changes.

[noble sleet]

I’m watching rax right now, I love him

[split maple]

still wip but getting kinda happy

[low lava]

Time for hackintosh 😂

[noble sleet]

Awakened gems are gonna be “Transformative” instead of a basic stat jump

[cobalt blade]

T17's are only kind of removed they still exist as nightmare maps

[lucid gale]

Something like a Ryzen 5700X, 128G of RAM, 25G networking, and a dinky 240G SSD with a 1050 3GB.

[blazing spear]

no one misses t17s

[cobalt blade]

just t16 instead of 17 and we dont know if theyll still have loot or if their smaller maps etc

[stoic horizon]

except mob level ofc

[final owl]

a lot of the most obnoxious T17 mods are dead but i suppose it's still possible they will suck to run

[stoic horizon]

ye

[low lava]

i will trade you 60tb SSDs for that 128gb ram 😂

[cobalt blade]

ye

[lucid gale]

Stopped trying that when AMD drivers stopped being available and Apple Silicon took over.

[blazing spear]

unstable tentacle fields

[cobalt blade]

Ofc theres just still a chance bigger map means they are better than other 16's

[low lava]

Yeah, i gave up on it as well after the whole M1 chips.

[cobalt blade]

like allflames in a bigger map spawn more total mobs

[final owl]

yeah i noted their lack of removal. I don't love em, but I guess I can deal with them.

[blazing spear]

they can't be astrolabed

[cobalt blade]

which im hoping isnt the case

Ye fair

[lucid gale]

Anyway, how about that PoE1. Are we there yet?

[blazing spear]

exarch runes are obnoxious as well

[cobalt blade]

so close yet so far

[low lava]

Few days bud

[noble sleet]

When yall do the campaign, are yall trying to do it asap and just get to the endgame as fast as possible?

[low lava]

😂

[hexed mountain]

Looks like the game will be easier

[cobalt blade]

yes

[final owl]

it's going to be a slow week :I

[cobalt blade]

fuck being in campaign longer than necessary

[hexed mountain]

With weaker mods on nightmare bosses and -1 level

[low lava]

Use to, but i want to find all the new stuff this time around. So will take my time :3

[blazing spear]

I'll be my dad's assistant

[final owl]

I am always zooming to endgame as fast as I can. unfortunately my ADD means it is a genuine struggle to not get distracted. so I am slow.

[hexed mountain]

Im in ssf so will do a good old 10 hours campain trying to grab the room and clicking mirages

[blazing spear]

In July, I can no life week 1

[low lava]

Know that feeling. Reason why i have 3 monitors, had 4 before 😂

[onyx adder]

Im still tossing up starting hc

[final owl]

oh i roll with 3 on all my setups now. Apparently I need maximum distraction potential

[crisp plinth]

i downgraded to single monitor

49" tho

[final owl]

my primary is 55" 😄

[onyx adder]

Sir thats a television

[crisp plinth]

nah its super ultra wide

[final owl]

my side monitors are 27" in portrait on the sides of it

[crisp plinth]

very comfy

[blazing spear]

also, what obnoxious mods did they forget to remove?

[low lava]

It has gotten so bad with me, i have 1 eye on my left monitor. While playing 😂

[crisp plinth]

[steady elk]

imagine playing poe1 on that

[low lava]

Better send that over right now, so i have a reason for a 3080 😂

[steady elk]

can't see shit

[blazing spear]

for me, tentacle fiends and exarch runes

[crisp plinth]

poe1 doesnt even use it fully

gotta use picture in picture

so i have normal ultra wide + a 1:1 side screen on my panel

[dense rock]

5140x1440p masterrace

[final owl]

the worst is when you catch yourself with phone in hand in front of multiple monitors with things going on..

[noble sleet]

I’m gonna miss my mercenary

[crisp plinth]

was kinda afraid i didnt like it but its so nice

[native abyss]

i feel like i have a nice pc but it still goes brrrr when i open poe

[low lava]

Oh i am big anti phone and socials, so that is not a problem with me 😂

[noble sleet]

I really thought those would’ve gone core immediately

[crisp plinth]

especially with the picture in picture

[final owl]

I had an ultrawide before this

[modest depot]

guys im sending holy hammer

o7

[stoic horizon]

not me talking on discord, playing tft and a mobile gacha auto battler at the same time

[modest depot]

surely its good skill

[final owl]

oh i have no social media either, binned it all years ago. I'll just catch myself looking at discord on my phone while sitting in front of a screen with discord on it..

[low lava]

Welcome to the club!

[dense rock]

Having practically 27" screenspace in the middle with enough left over for 2x vertical screenspaces on the sides goes so fucking hard for poe

can have poe in the middle with pob on one side and discord and tunes on the other

[low lava]

Yeah, i gladly dont do that. Even right now, my phone is like in the other room 😂

[final owl]

they are terrible little devices so thats fair

[low lava]

Yeah. I do check it here and there if the mom tried to call or send something.
But luckily people around me know, i aint glued to my phone XD

[native abyss]

i should take friday off work so i have ample time to game

[icy zinc]

sixth legion when

[low lava]

And lose out on a full day of money. damn

[low lava]

Forgot the third one

[native abyss]

nah it would be paid

the vertical monitors always get me

[final owl]

that is an amazing portrait monitor setup. chefs kiss. no notes

[low lava]

only have discord on it

So you can see the whole chat 😂

[tight plinth]

you can see chat from last year

[native abyss]

i think i can turn one of my monitors like that but ive never tried

[onyx adder]

🚮

seriously tho it looks maybe playable

if u cope on overlaps

[low lava]

Discord is on my portrait monitor right now 😂

[icy zinc]

holy hammer numbers when

[onyx adder]

we have them

u potato

[icy zinc]

damn

[final owl]

it kinda looks like holy sweep might be the better pick than holy hammer tbh. but i'm leery of both

[icy zinc]

i needed something to be mad about

[low lava]

i only have simulated numbers 😂

[icy zinc]

wonder what the numbers like at lvl 26 and alike

[onyx adder]

base hit is 440 explosions are 220

and u get 20% more if u eat a pc

its uh

what was it 0.8 skill?

quite fast for a slam i remember

[icy zinc]

[cobalt blade]

.85 i think

[onyx adder]

the big problem is its locked to dogwater weapons

[cobalt blade]

but yeah it seems decent if your coping on overlaps

[low lava]

Oh we get to use it at lvl 26 already ?

[onyx adder]

so u have to be like YO GUYS EAT MY MACE

[tight plinth]

0.85 actually

[cobalt blade]

brutus lead sprinkler it

[onyx adder]

and all the other slammers are running around with 30% more dps from a real weapon with real nodes

[cobalt blade]

Realistically you just run a staff though

[tight plinth]

its quite quick for a slam

[cobalt blade]

big phys staff is okay

[hoary scarab]

it does seem solid for clearing shit like legions

[onyx adder]

if u dont mind sinking four suffixes into accuracy staves are alright

staff accuracy always makes me want to cliff

[icy zinc]

uh 21 lv corrupted, +3 level from gloves and 2 from chest corrupt or something like archdemon helm

when not sure always do archdemon helm

[tight plinth]

20% more from pc is the quality you reckon?

[cobalt blade]

I think if your going slayer or jugg its not that bad

can play impact early

[low lava]

Im confused, we talking about holy hammers 😂

[icy zinc]

holy hammer is half lightning btw

[cobalt blade]

But ye its more scuffed than other things

[icy zinc]

so helm essence is strong

[cobalt blade]

which helm essence

[icy zinc]

insanity

[onyx adder]

hucu

what are u doing

and why is it dogshit

[final owl]

by the time i finish campaign it will be known what sucks and what doesn't so i'll know how much i should regret rolling whatever i roll

[cobalt blade]

this is just worse than 30% more damage essence

[icy zinc]

eh well

[final owl]

i already regret what i'm going to roll a little bit and i havent decided on anything yet.

[cobalt blade]

but an actual route you can consider is 50% phys to cold on the tree and play trinity

[hoary scarab]

virtual

[rose vault]

Holy Hammer Hiero?

[cobalt blade]

Prob okay

[low lava]

dont want to socket my attack skill on the helmet. When i can get 7 link on body/mace 😂

[tight plinth]

you can also get a 7+ link on a helm

[low lava]

Yeah. But that shit either hard to craft or expensive to trade for

[hoary scarab]

isnt that only for like a duration aoe fire skill

[low lava]

And as a league starter, i aint doing that.

[cobalt blade]

(specifically thinking this route from woke pen being gone so it should be better for a while than pure light)

[icy zinc]

put your holy hammer here

[low lava]

im just doing phys and lightning.

[onyx adder]

okay but why do u think gem levels are gonna do anything

[low lava]

screams expensive.

[cobalt blade]

-2 support is really bad for slams because of overexert

[icy zinc]

ever since totems removal the levels on melee been much stronger

[cobalt blade]

also slams really really want shaper hat

[icy zinc]

since damage effectiveness and added damage

[cobalt blade]

so like lol

[icy zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/rah-gif-14283880331149196129

doa

[onyx adder]

its gonna be like 6.5% dps per level like it is on every other melee skill just about

which i mean okay its better than zero but im not really getting out of bed for that shit

[cobalt blade]

lower than 0 since -2 on overexert will more than likely bring you to a lower more dmh

[onyx adder]

naca i can see u typing if ur response has BUT SMITE ACKSHUALLY im gonna lose it

oh ok

[low lava]

I will just wait and see when i can thinker with holy hammers.
I'm still doubting inquisitor will be the best. But meh!

[onyx adder]

ur good

carry on

[icy zinc]

i guess

[native abyss]

i am going storm brand inquisitor

[cobalt blade]

Ill admit it did tempt me but decided not to lol

[icy zinc]

numerically elemental hit levels are like 9.5% dps per level

[cobalt blade]

Since there was an actual argument

[icy zinc]

at least per pobs im looking atm

[low lava]

I have that added to my holy hammers build too 😂

just for power charge generation tho

[icy zinc]

29 lv vs 30 lv

[cobalt blade]

ele hit gets flat per level

[native abyss]

I think it was my first ever poe characters build so i want to try it again

[cobalt blade]

holy hammers does not

[onyx adder]

ele hit is not hammers its got flat on it lul

it scales like a spell

[icy zinc]

yeah and ive counted it as well

it got to 9.5%

[onyx adder]

cmon hucu ur not using the skill that scales like a spell

[cobalt blade]

Ele hit is quite literally the worst skill you can use for this

[onyx adder]

in order to justify putting levels on things that dont scale like a spell

[icy zinc]

[tight plinth]

cmon hucu

[icy zinc]

but my holy hammer slow skill with admiral arrogance that gives +3 levels

[tight plinth]

shaking my smh

[icy zinc]

oh btw why dont ele hit use the archdemon helm then

[cobalt blade]

just run like fortify gloves on a champ setup

[icy zinc]

i suppose foulborn has +2 lvl of socketed so it also empower

[low lava]

Gotta get that 10 attack speed

[cobalt blade]

because your supports are pretty good

and you dont get good supports on affixes

[onyx adder]

ele hit can run a 7l archdemon if it wants to its probably acceptable

u dont want conc tho

[tight plinth]

please let foublorn oppressor be cheap 🙏

[icy zinc]

righte righte

[cobalt blade]

you get attack crit 30% more essence and hypo if your doing cold for some weird reason

And i cant think of a prefix off the top of my head

[icy zinc]

ruthless is a really decent lvl 1 support imbue on ele hit

its 70% more vs 100% more 1-21 lv

which is not a lot

well(that being divided further)

[leaden gust]

are we talking chad bow ele hit or trashy useless melee hit

[cobalt blade]

if ur running endu charges endu charge on melee stun is probably bis

[icy zinc]

WOW

[tight plinth]

oh yeah, has someone made a tier list of the best lvl 1 supports that you can corrupt on gems?

[icy zinc]

the ele hit slayer that is totally league startable

[icy zinc]

not yet i guess

[cobalt blade]

the best 2 are endu charge on melee stun and pcharge on crit

[icy zinc]

it'll get popular soon enough

[cobalt blade]

then its stuff like lifetap and fortify

Spells you probably dont actually bother with the support because for alot of them +1 level is better

[leaden gust]

will only lvl1 supports be added or is the lvl random as well

[cobalt blade]

Theres gonna be a few where its not though

[cobalt blade]

always 1 was on the coins

[icy zinc]

if theres a better coin then we figure out in game

lootfilter info should show up soon enough

so thats also to factor in

[cobalt blade]

(Or they said it one of the two)

[onyx adder]

CHARGED MINES ACKSHUALLY

[cobalt blade]

^

[icy zinc]

holy miner

[blazing spear]

how can you forget about ice bite?

[icy zinc]

crit a lot crit a many

[cobalt blade]

Yo truuuue

[icy zinc]

lvl 1 ice bite, logout

[ember hemlock]

Chat is bows good

[low lava]

Argh, imma see if i can get my tampler setup goin on marauder/jugg :3

[native abyss]

bows are so back

[tribal rose]

havent played path of exile 1 properly in quite a while, im not fullly convinced this league will be the one that properly gets me back but it does seem kinda optimistic(?)

[blazing spear]

nvm

[blazing spear]

pcoc and endu on stun are bis

[icy zinc]

red maps 8-12 cold

brr

[cobalt blade]

pog damage numbers

[dusky marsh]

Anyone has problems with poe 1 ps5?

[blazing spear]

it's fucking trash at level 1

[tribal rose]

do we know waht the numbers for new sweep is

[cobalt blade]

(i thought you were meming suggesting ice bite and was gonna roll with it )

[tight plinth]

level 1 ancentral call support

[onyx adder]

ppl think the brick is ice bite lul

wait till they hit void manipulation

[icy zinc]

or brutality

[cobalt blade]

That ones imo ass your better off running ancestral call and getting smth else corrupted

It has a less dmg mult

at lvl 1

[tight plinth]

oh man it would be funny if you get level 1 cwdt

[icy zinc]

i wouldnt suggest having conc effect but thats like 25% more dmg at the expense of 30% LESS aoe

[split pagoda]

also quality is important on ancestral call

15% range is solid

[tawdry olive]

Took 10 hours to reach red maps ssf, skill is issue 😔

I now understand why everybody doesn’t just play hcssf builds too, need damage to rush

[cobalt blade]

ya^^

why i think endu charge on stun pcoc are best then lifetap/fort as generically good ones

[worldly wind]

nobody wants to spend 30 minutes fighting the act 4 act bosses

[cobalt blade]

Theres also like rage for attack builds especially wanders

Saves a few points or glove implicit

[split pagoda]

yeah

[tight plinth]

oh increased crit strike is pretty good

[cobalt blade]

if your playing a uh str stack caster and need to go really out of your way for iron will that could be one worth using over +1 gem level

[onyx adder]

I think they said triggers cant roll

[cobalt blade]

But thats a very niche scenario and i really wish iron will support could support attacks

[tight plinth]

you just lost a bit of increased from levels

[cobalt blade]

wouldve been such a nasty one

[tawdry olive]

Especially at maps tbh, damage is so important

And your build needs to get going on a 4 link with gamba weapon

[tight plinth]

item rarity support, free mf

[rocky glade]

Ironically you don't want that
Ancestral Call wants the quality

[cobalt blade]

time to overprice that on the fubgun skill

probably ele hit

[stoic horizon]

and the level too, before 20 it reduces your damage

[surreal musk]

improved offering lab farming prob gonna be crazy profit with the amount of lv 20 transfigured gems ppl gonna need

[trail laurel]

Anyone got temples with high exp mods that I can join I need to level gems

[surreal musk]

it was already a really high profit strat usually

[cobalt blade]

for suuure

ima be buying a shit ton of nova sparks if I figure out a good enough setup

[stoic horizon]

wrong game

[cobalt blade]

though connors heavy strike setup is tempting me as a second build start as some random ass marauder setup that isnt slams

[karmic drift]

does anyone know if "gain 1 vaal soul per second" works during soul gain prevention ?

[cobalt blade]

no

[onyx adder]

💀

[cobalt blade]

you cant gain vaal souls during prevention

[frigid wedge]

does tshot ever have actual dps anymore without hh other than om attrib stacker

[cobalt blade]

i forgot heavy strike of trarthus had crown of eyes and it actually looks legit because of that

[blazing spear]

no

[onyx adder]

Just play elehit u can sink mirrors into that and its not aids

[tight plinth]

level 1 manaforged looks okay too

[onyx adder]

u cant roll triggers right

octavian said?

[tight plinth]

oh you cant?

[frigid wedge]

ele hit doesn't full clear the map when u get from point a to point b in 7 sec

[cobalt blade]

doesnt that deal no damage str stacking

[rocky glade]

Best imbue for melee skills is probably Fortify

[cobalt blade]

Endu charge on melee stun

4% more doesn't scale with levels

[rocky glade]

Not everyone is gonna play slams

[onyx adder]

sure but i didnt say u had to str stack lul

[frigid wedge]

generates endu charges

[tight plinth]

the +proj ones arent bad either

[jaunty herald]

Is lacerate still a good league starter or did it get nerfed a few leagues ago?

[icy zinc]

i guess you can also imbue lvl 1 penetration fire/cold/light

which is handy

[cobalt blade]

Well yeah but i mentioned connors build and crown of eyes heavy strike :p

[icy zinc]

its 20% pen at lvl 1

[pulsar dune]

it's the exact same afaik

[rocky glade]

Alternatively Inspiration Imbue would be good

[cobalt blade]

slayer runs masterful form for ele charges jugg is jugg

[icy zinc]

of course, inspiration imbue is quite imba

[onyx adder]

yes obviously thats a stacker its connor im just sayin u dont need to do it

[cobalt blade]

Regardless of slams its good support

[onyx adder]

because its heavy strike

[icy zinc]

25% reduced mana and inspire if you do low mana hits to hit trigger the charges every 122 mana

[frigid wedge]

never been so upset by my own link group

[cobalt blade]

i mean with attack speed it plays nigh identically to other generic melee skills lol

Like ambi

and i weirdly dont hate how that plays

[tranquil sedge]

well it has all 3 colors, R G B
therefore ur fps goes up by 20%

[onyx adder]

do u see me out here recommending u sink 50 mirrors into ambi lulw

[tight plinth]

faster attacks support

[onyx adder]

ur allowed to do that if u never leave uber boss rooms

[whole bluff]

Ancestral Commander could actually be decent on that skill 🙁

[cobalt blade]

they have good clear with splash or unspeakable gifts clusters+genetic dmg scaling yes its worse than pure mapper but its fine

Also my goal every league is funny valdos

So yknow good pob for that

[whole bluff]

Not anymore my way cuz overexertion no longer justifies with dmg using ancestral cry and company

[frigid wedge]

@tight plinth

[onyx adder]

im certainly not going to argue against a connor pob being good for a 45 minute valdo

so if that is the goal then fair enough

[cobalt blade]

ya always is

love doing valdos

[uneven gust]

Are you connah

[cobalt blade]

(whole reason i havent rly touched the two hander str stack stuff is because i hate how zenith feels so heavy strike atleast isnt bad )

Fucking despise the deal no damage deal a billion damage playstyle

[native abyss]

what about deal just a lil damage 🤏

[tight plinth]

whats the max valor you can get?

[low lava]

str stack holy ham >_>

[tight plinth]

100ish?

[cobalt blade]

bit over 100

[uneven gust]

Have you tried static strike autobomber?

[tight plinth]

[cobalt blade]

i tried a scuffed version to see how it feels before its not bad

[tight plinth]

damn its an exceptional support tho

[cobalt blade]

Like just slotting it into a 1 hander str stack setup

[tranquil sedge]

heavy strike sounds worse tbh

over zenith

[icy zinc]

who is chaos orb and why is it dead

[cobalt blade]

its trarthus heavy strike which gets crown of eyes

[uneven gust]

You can slam duration support on your static strike now

[tranquil sedge]

its not dead

[cobalt blade]

so your getting p good attack speed from getting to use elevated warlord hat

[tranquil sedge]

ik i saw video but ehhhhh

[uneven gust]

Well prayge for it

[cobalt blade]

idk it looks fine to me as i said v similar playstyle to ambi

[finite osprey]

is map equity gone?

[icy zinc]

good

[uneven gust]

Gosh imagine trinity on like frostblades for free

[icy zinc]

copege

[icy zinc]

GOSH

actually not bad ig

[whole bluff]

At worst, how many alts would a chaos be worth? For their actual use case?

[uneven gust]

Frostblade warden tbh

[icy zinc]

the levels only determined pen from 7% to 16%

[uneven gust]

3 tinctures 1 mana flask 3 tamings warden

[tranquil sedge]

dunno

[cobalt blade]

atleast 7

[icy zinc]

3 tinctures wutehell

[whole bluff]

I could see chaos droppinh in value, but you can actually craft with chaos

[cobalt blade]

it will drop in value with no sink

[uneven gust]

3 tamings = no utility flas
You use blind, hit, then ele and bleed for yoke procs

[frigid wedge]

bc its link starved anyways deathbeam

[cobalt blade]

Fully expecting 300c div

[cobalt blade]

mirage archer corrupt

[frigid wedge]

perhaps

[split pagoda]

they arent tho

[whole bluff]

Then I could see devaluing of alts as well as chaos, rise in value of split beast, people using either for recombs, and such?

[dim sonnet]

Chaos spamming jewels new meta

[uneven gust]

Don't let them know

Sheesh

[tranquil sedge]

good question
i dunno

[frigid wedge]

the ONLY reason im not playing frenzy is bc is has to clear compared to tshot

[cobalt blade]

Chaos are unuseable for recombs lol

You want clean bases

[whole bluff]

Hmm

[uneven gust]

Annuls

[dim sonnet]

Who cares. Ppl here forget everytime anyway

[split pagoda]

connors pobs are usually on the dps side, good for valdos that need high dmg

[whole bluff]

Can't you just use poe2 recomb to clean?

[uneven gust]

Ppl rolling w chaos still need annuls

[split pagoda]

but theres a reason he never takes his builds into void maps

[whole bluff]

Or is that fucked by weight

[uneven gust]

There anent many div cards for annuls

[cobalt blade]

this is completely ass to use because the chance is based on weight

[frigid wedge]

he always goes double wand and shit instead of wand shield

[uneven gust]

It's going to be annuls

[whole bluff]

Fair

[dim sonnet]

You don't need anulls

[cobalt blade]

his builds are tanky enough but he doesnt like losing them

[icy zinc]

annuling then exalting the random jewels and clusters letsfuckinggo

[cobalt blade]

( at the 5+ mirror level)

[whole bluff]

Worst case scenario, I'd see chaos worth 1/10 harvest clicks anyway?

[frigid wedge]

do any of u remember the captainlance ice nova video in necropolis where he closed passive tree to show he was facetanking ghosted feared the entire time he was explaining build

[uneven gust]

Come to think of it annul and scour

[cobalt blade]

that one was funny as fuck

[split pagoda]

well yeah thats the point, its not enough to take the risk

[uneven gust]

Acour is what everythibg vendors up to

[cobalt blade]

it is enough he just doesn't

[dim sonnet]

Scours are the bottleneck

[split pagoda]

not for the rippiest ones

absolutely not

[cobalt blade]

like people other than connor regularly do voids on them lol

[uneven gust]

But you don't scpur of you chaos annul exalt lol

All depends on harse

[cobalt blade]

Yeah not the really fucked up ones that require glad block and es on hit to live

[split pagoda]

yeah but they do easy ones

[cobalt blade]

but a good 80+% of them are runnable

[twilit fiber]

What are we thinking is looking like a solid char for endgame expedition with Mamba gone and the nerfs to phys dot elementalist ?

[frigid wedge]

me with no valdo experience bc im a little baby about making good builds

[dim sonnet]

Yea I usually just alt regal exalt

Will have to see the market

[severe pivot]

what are good builds for harvest? u dont need clear speed right? so bossing oriented?

[cobalt blade]

personally i dont like doing voids either even when im in the range of them being doable since I just dont trust not randomly dying to a dd rare vs feared

[tranquil sedge]

literally anything will work, harvest is a chill ass mechanic

[dim sonnet]

Harvest is easy just use any playable build

[cobalt blade]

or some other nonsense i cant rly plan around

[low lava]

RF can clear that shit 😂

[brazen vector]

answer my dm >-<

[bright lagoon]

kboc hierophant or hroc necro ? i feel overwhelmed but i have question hierophant should benefit more with changes than hroc like exceptional gems and new iteams feel like hroc u can't modified iteams

[spice pecan]

bought supporter+kirac finally, my 4 boxes were 2x footprints 2x hideout mtx

i am become sad

[split pagoda]

void valdos are the only thing that interests me in sc

[surreal musk]

harvest wants something decently tanky

[severe pivot]

everytime I do harvest I just get exploded

[split pagoda]

but recently ive just played hc instead

[cobalt blade]

love doing maps like dark remnants or the one voices underground river though

Those are fun as fuck

[gritty epoch]

Preferably something with high DPS and some decent clear so it's faster to farm

[tranquil sedge]

mamba patch notes are not clear, they've said it needs to be clarified

[tranquil sedge]

what kind of builds were you using? show some pobs

[icy zinc]

we went too rough on this 2% played skill :<

[tranquil sedge]

because harvest is seriously a low threshold as far as difficulty goes

[icy zinc]

mamber

[severe pivot]

frost blades and bow builds

[dim sonnet]

By a normal build i mean a build with decent dps and some layered defense

[tranquil sedge]

i said show pobs because this answer doesn't mean anything, those builds are fine for harvest

like i said the bar for harvest is low

[gritty epoch]

Harvest can hurt you on early stages of build especially if u scarab it

[cobalt blade]

This work of art

[split pagoda]

also imo connors str stack pobs have always been pretty poorly made

[twilit fiber]

even the low tolerance nerfs are pretty massive though arent they?

[tranquil sedge]

like if ur struggling with a bad build on a casual t16 harvest thats an issue with your build not that build archetype or anything

[split pagoda]

didnt look at the new vid for this league tho

[gritty epoch]

If u don't kill the rates fast

[cobalt blade]

he forgoes qol he doesnt care for

I personally will add some of that back

[severe pivot]

hmm yeah thinking of maybe doing some slammer

[split pagoda]

lol fair

[tranquil sedge]

yea low tolerance nerf was just uncalled for lmfao

but the skill itself lets see what they update

[cobalt blade]

Overall the pobs are good though

[severe pivot]

my every build has issues bro

[low lava]

holy

[split pagoda]

disagree, his highend pobs are just bad imo

[tranquil sedge]

frost blades builds do have defences
and harvest mobs have low enough health that even defensively weak rangers can just pop them as soon as they spawn

if he's struggling with harvest its far more likely an issue with his specific build

[dim sonnet]

I have no idea about slammers but im sure they also have capped block and suppression or something right ?

[tranquil sedge]

which again, is why i said pobs

[split pagoda]

the more budget stuff is fair enough but u can make those high invest pobs way better

[low lava]

slammers in harvest is just fine.

[tranquil sedge]

like seriously this conversation is making harvest sound harder than it is lmao

[cobalt blade]

he makes some conscious decisions of specifically putting the 3rd to 4th best of some specific items in because people look at his pobs and live search for that specific thing and price him out of it though (like lethal prides)

[twilit fiber]

I'm just an expedition enjoyer and that new scarab has me pretty hype. Combined with nerfs to tree / ships / gamble is hould be able to get some good currency from Rog this season i hope.

[cobalt blade]

ya he does that on purpose to fuck over flippers

[uneven gust]

Oh yeah uh... Delve is for big boy tanky like

10k max phys/chaos hit immune to elemental ailments 80 allres some phys as elemental etc

[tranquil sedge]

rog is going to be pretty useless still i reckon

and ship nerf didn't have anything to do with this, if anything it made low tier gear even more easily accessible by swapping crops and ores

[dim sonnet]

Maybe. Im a minion player so I just stand there and loot

[twilit fiber]

i thought they removed the higher tier bias from gamble / ships as well etc? surely that makes rog better?

[tranquil sedge]

harvest is just a low tier mechanic in terms of difficulty compared to other stuff
so first question is going to ofc be whats his pob look like

[supple basin]

Delve this league

[severe pivot]

difficulty is relative to the player

[uneven gust]

Tree doesnt print weapons anymore ig so crops = 2h recomb food?

[whole bluff]

Tree tree + boats now have less modifier tier rating

[cobalt blade]

there was a strat people did this league where you just dumped every base item from rog into a merchant tab for like 5-10 c but it requires a 100 merchant tabs or something stupid

[tranquil sedge]

not really when you're talking about 'farming harvest' and the baseline difficulty is t16 maps with low juice

[low lava]

You can do harvest on a super simple RF setup. So its so and so

[cobalt blade]

And rog is actually good profit if you do that

[tranquil sedge]

also you still haven't provided a pob for us to see

[cobalt blade]

You dont read mods or anything just fill up tabs

[supple basin]

Poe 2 ahh strategy

[tranquil sedge]

so im just going to assume your build was bad until you prove otherwise lol

[whole bluff]

I will prolly buy some supporter packs and get a ton more merchant tabs

[cobalt blade]

its so dumb yeah

[dim sonnet]

Oh we are talking about t16 with low juice

[tranquil sedge]

i mean
if ur planning to farm harvest and not reaching at least t16s and putting in a few scarabs

[uneven gust]

Meanwhile my t16 scour and go makes 10d a map(in phericia)

[tranquil sedge]

u might as well do something else

[severe pivot]

my every build is bad like what its not even a question

[dim sonnet]

I thought we were talking about proper crop rotation

[tranquil sedge]

if thats the case why do you think choosing a different build guide/archetype is going to make the situation better?

the focus should be on finding whats wrong with your build, what you can do to avoid it next time, so you can farm what you want

[cobalt blade]

rip awakened crop rota

[tranquil sedge]

some builds are easier to make than others but no build is immune to being made bad lol

[onyx adder]

I expect this line to help rog more than all the obvious changes tbh

[low lava]

Then its time to lock in, we have asked for a pob. We can probably solve the problem you are having. But you're not providing us with it XD

[onyx adder]

Lowered how much Modifier Tier Rating is granted to Rare items generated from Kingsmarch Shipping, Kingsmarch Mapping, Gambling and the Genesis Tree.

[uneven gust]

2 harvests per map tho

[dim sonnet]

Oh yea sextants are gone

[onyx adder]

Tldr ur boat items and tree items will now be more shit

[cobalt blade]

i think woke crop rota is still better but fair

[severe pivot]

I dont want u to solve its my fun to figure it out

[supple basin]

I can finally play Bear trap ignite saboteur this league

[onyx adder]

Exactly how shit is up to ggg and to ur imagination

[uneven gust]

Map crafts*

[tranquil sedge]

woke is no longer a thing is it

[cobalt blade]

Ya

[tranquil sedge]

so

[cobalt blade]

^

[tranquil sedge]

ah

[dim sonnet]

Oh yeah that too. How do we juice now ?

[tranquil sedge]

astrolabes

[cobalt blade]

p sure 2 per map is just worse than woke

[tranquil sedge]

• scarabs
• roll your map well

[uneven gust]

Imo new woke is pog

[low lava]

Then its a you problem if you cant solve it.
Like i said, you can do harvest on a super cheap RF setup.

[dim sonnet]

You can only put one per corner right ?

[twilit fiber]

Feel like this surely has a decent impact on rog early doors.

[cobalt blade]

Oh yeah im looking forward to it as a valdo enjoyer

[tranquil sedge]

i dunno chief i didnt pay that much attention if it was mentioned

[cobalt blade]

gonna be fun wisping feared and what not

Titanic feared

[tranquil sedge]

but it's going to be part of the juice now

[supple basin]

Anyone cooking general cry holy sweep?

[cobalt blade]

also exceptional rogue exiles seem fun

[uneven gust]

Alao the tormented spirits summoning a copy of a rare after posessing combined with the legion fix might make double seargents, that and curency incus can drop frac orbs

[tranquil sedge]

get good maps, atlas tree + scarabs + astrolabes gonna be the juice

8mod t16.5 sounds like it'll be the main desired endgame map now

[cobalt blade]

it wasnt copying rares it was copying spirits

[dim sonnet]

Do we have t16.5 ?

[tranquil sedge]

originator wasn't removed wdym

[dim sonnet]

I thought we only have t16

[uneven gust]

The new torm scarab? It reads confusing lol

[cobalt blade]

youd break the ghosts out they posses another mob you repeat and get a hundred or 200 ghosts all of which are uniques to drol more itrms

[tranquil sedge]

thats what we call originator maps

t16.5

[whole bluff]

Is echoes of the maven cool? I have like 2.5 days to buy it right?

[undone gazelle]

adds blobs to a quadrant, not sure if you can add more blobs in one quadrant or overlap blobs

[cobalt blade]

nah the old one

[tranquil sedge]

coz they roll both t16 and t17 mods
they're inbetween

[atomic crane]

Do you guys think chaos will be as worthless as poe 2 exalts now

[astral shadow]

If base loot is trash, no matter how much u juice those rogue exiles they will give nothing

[tranquil sedge]

no, i dont think so

[cobalt blade]

Oh wait they made a new one copy rares

[cobalt blade]

Yea probably I've mentioned before its prob gonna suck

But it looks fun

[prime hill]

losing biggest sink

[cobalt blade]

i like fighting rippy as fuck shit

[tranquil sedge]

we're losing two sinks lol

[dim sonnet]

Ah right there is an atlas point that make it so you can just spam the same map and make it juicer and juicer

[prime hill]

yeah

[tranquil sedge]

but like

[prime hill]

gcp main currency it is

[atomic crane]

[cobalt blade]

They physically cant be

[tranquil sedge]

people will just start crafting with chaos now

beyond just cluster jewels n shit

[cobalt blade]

Worst case scenario they get priced around chaos spamming clusters

[tranquil sedge]

so i think it'll be alright

gcps are definitely going to the moon

gonna be fun

[atomic crane]

Hopefully it doesn't reach 1k chaos to div

[tranquil sedge]

you're safe from that

[cobalt blade]

im so sad they nerfed synth maps for this

[atomic crane]

[tranquil sedge]

synth maps are a dogshit state and they dont even care dude

[whole bluff]

Yup. But you gotta consider, how many times better is a harvest click or fossil click?

[cobalt blade]

I used that to make early league profit a few times

[dim sonnet]

I remember them changing originator in the reveal

[cobalt blade]

Yeeh

[tranquil sedge]

valid but fossils are gonna be more expensive now, juice might be too

coz delve-exclusive, and no more woke scarab, respectively

[crystal quartz]

Chaos crafting

[cobalt blade]

for clusters it is a legitimate strategy to chaos spam them rn

[tranquil sedge]

also harbingers are gone

annul orbs might go up in price

[dim sonnet]

Good. Let us delve in peace

[undone gazelle]

fractured ring veiled mods are gonna be some easy early game money maker

[whole bluff]

Ah, woke scarab gone. I missed that but it makes sense

[cobalt blade]

Remember that attributes and inc effect arent harvest tagged and fundamental fossils are priced around influenced crafts

[tranquil sedge]

it does something else now* not deleted, but ye

[limpid prairie]

Where so you get annuls in mass now?
Uhhh blue altars? Red?

[cobalt blade]

Red

[tranquil sedge]

red altars yea

[dim sonnet]

I wonder how mirage interact with niko and hoarder monsters

[tranquil sedge]

im more interested in what dense fossil price will be

[cobalt blade]

mmmm

[uneven gust]

"The Torment Scarab now grants a chance for Tormenting Spirits that have Possessed monsters to be released when that monster is killed. The Spirit then immediately dives into the ground, resurfacing with a new rare monster which they again Possess"

Suits tops mean it coppies it?

[cobalt blade]

20c per dense

[prime hill]

pain

[cobalt blade]

also actually worth looking for fractured walls in delve now

[cobalt blade]

Ah funky

[tranquil sedge]

also do you guys remember people buying veiled ilvl 86 bases for mirror crafts before the new higher tier bases were added and they made changes to betrayal drops (or whatever that nerf was)

[uneven gust]

Bit yeah my rares per rare rate just went up like 20%

So now I'm up to 10 rares per rare

[tranquil sedge]

new veiled frac drop update might be nice for some crafting base supply in market

[cobalt blade]

Hillock veiled bases specifically

8% attributes unveil

[tranquil sedge]

ah right that was it

[limpid prairie]

Alternative 3 defense crafts going to the moon

[pulsar ice]

was my favourite part of delve back in the day

[surreal musk]

reforge defense spam login

[tranquil sedge]

yea good league to start delving if anyone was thinking about it

[astral shadow]

Delve will be meta farm now?

[tranquil sedge]

just recombinate

[cobalt blade]

absolutely horror

Ye as a delve enjoyer ill prob be delving on the side

seems in theory good profit

[limpid prairie]

Tree might print decently if you play a lot
Or Rog? Rog good?

[whole bluff]

In any case, I learned around 3.8 to save my chaos and not go stupid mode sinking 200c in a max ilvl sorc boot to sell for 5ex if lucky. It still kinda worked though. I don't despair if that has to come back. I just wonder about costs of different competing clicks (some of which didn't even exist in 3.8)

[prime hill]

recombing still needed some fossil crafts etc at times

[tranquil sedge]

recomb and fossil don't go together unless you use fossils to make bases to recomb

[prime hill]

thats exactly it

[cobalt blade]

Uh no not really only for weird abyss socket stuff

[tranquil sedge]

yea but the point is its optional

[cobalt blade]

way better to alt

[split maple]

my annoyance with fossils is clusters

[tranquil sedge]

u can just alt or chaos or harvest spam if u need

[prime hill]

2k alt

[astral shadow]

Ggg said they remove fossils from non-delve things, so for example simu will drop no fossils?

[pulsar ice]

At least a lot more stable, even the more common drops are now exclusive. Previously you just waited until some delve bases and boss drops basically

[prime hill]

vs 4 clicks

[tranquil sedge]

its cluster jewel crafting thats going to be more impacted lol

[cobalt blade]

But clean bases

so literally just a 1/3 into another 1/3 to hit pre

[prime hill]

I mean

[tranquil sedge]

you can still do this

[cobalt blade]

or whatever it is

[tranquil sedge]

its not like u wont be able to

its just going to be more expensive thats all

[prime hill]

yeah

[tranquil sedge]

as always u will have the choice

so its fine

[split maple]

the one case where fossils would be legit useful is +all into split+annul isolate feeders

[prime hill]

it's gonna be just pain on early league

[limpid prairie]

Cluster jewels second best method is also alt orbs right?

lol

[prime hill]

wont matter that much later on other than weird crafts like +1 chest

[split maple]

harvest

[cobalt blade]

its the best method technically its just also gonna kill your hands

[prime hill]

for me atleast

[cobalt blade]

Basically always cheaper to alt clusters

[limpid prairie]

alt orbs to the moon

[cobalt blade]

with very few exceptions where harvest forces a mod

[split maple]

dont worry surely fracturing orbs will be div common

so fracing all th clusters

[cobalt blade]

suurely

[prime hill]

surely

[cobalt blade]

Fully expecting them to be sacred odds

[onyx garnet]

Anyone know who this steve is referring to? Is it someone with a YT channel?

[prime hill]

that'd be

[spice pecan]

holy flashbang

[prime hill]

GET DOWN

[split maple]

dude who hits delve bottom

[spice pecan]

ShitStainSteve, he's the turbo delver every league

[tranquil sedge]

guy who deep delves and got famous for it

[cobalt blade]

Shitstainsteve/turdtwisterx

[spice pecan]

he streams on ttv/turdtwisterx

[onyx garnet]

Oh I see, thank you all 🙂

[tranquil sedge]

lol he got tagged out in replies

[prime hill]

that'd be a horrible economy shakedown ngl

[whole bluff]

How many types of "chaos but better" do we actually have btw? Harvest, essence, fossils, anything else? As well as alt, alch/scour for similar use cases?

[spice pecan]

i might legit delve this league

[hazy wing]

How do configure my stash tab when a fresh league starts it starts like it

[spice pecan]

if they don't prenerf bloodsoaked banner

[tranquil sedge]

not alch/scour, that'll be more expensive i think

[cobalt blade]

Yaaa

[split maple]

do it in standard

[cobalt blade]

Probably also gonna have 10-20c annuls

Which is gonna be fun

[whole bluff]

It's basically the same thing as chaos

[tranquil sedge]

price diff*

[prime hill]

yeah just trying to simulate prices in my head

[whole bluff]

Ah

[prime hill]

my weapon crafts early league is like

[hazy wing]

just create a fresh account and configure it or use an old standard character/

[tranquil sedge]

even prior to this league i was chaos spamming quite a lot of things

[prime hill]

going from just metacraft + 1 div to metacraft + 10 divs

[split maple]

use any char you have in standard

[blazing spear]

annuls will be 5c

[cobalt blade]

if you set them up in standard league inherits them but note that if your playing ssf you need to do ssf standard and same for hc/hcssf

[blazing spear]

fract 2d

[split maple]

and hide removeo nly tabs for sanity

[tranquil sedge]

fewer clicks to chaos instead of alch/scour plus scours aren't terribly cheap

[cobalt blade]

and if your doing private leagues you need to make a character in the regular league first for it to inherit tabs

[whole bluff]

Chaos is cool anyway

[cobalt blade]

And login

Its really dumb for privates

[tranquil sedge]

heck yea feels good to use em

[whole bluff]

Yup

[uneven gust]

Frac=d
Exalt=annul
Chaos=5alt=1scour

[split maple]

eh is there any ways on poegems or somewhere to filter support gems by "can support # skill"

[cobalt blade]

Hard disagree because they mentioned cluster fracturing into changing cluster base in the qna

from some new item

[whole bluff]

If regal becomes alch rarity, that will help out in like t5 maps, whichever day you're there

[cobalt blade]

so you could move unspeakable gifts onto a not chaos damage cluster

and get explode

[whole bluff]

If alch went more rare that would be frustrating in campaign

[uneven gust]

If bindings rain from the sky in act 5 I'll be happy

[whole bluff]

Campaign might be easier for crafting your gear now

[tranquil sedge]

regals drop in price very fast anyway

[prime hill]

interesting youtube for you page

[cobalt blade]

(+some other funky combos with like cold to the core overlord quick and deadly etc)

[uneven gust]

Bindings are the best campaign orb

[prime hill]

but kek I'm always amazed by llyd

[split maple]

i am legit blind

[blazing spear]

i made a fake giveaway in global for these xd

[whole bluff]

Yeah, but they're like several times rarer than alchs atm

[prime hill]

reported

[cobalt blade]

red dot D:

[blazing spear]

anyway, 800 more d for my standard zenith char

[limpid prairie]

some people
just want the world to burn

[tawdry olive]

lmao just a random comment in the fub tierlist reddit post

[uneven gust]

67 joke in patchnotes I'm out

[cobalt blade]

based

[prime hill]

based but also wrong

[tawdry olive]

i have no idea what the context of this is

it may have been from previous leagues even

i just found it really hilarious

[prime hill]

this is one league I didn't cringe on fubgun's list

tbh

[undone gazelle]

now thats a reaction image you can add on every tier list

[uneven gust]

Wonder what theyd rate my deaths oath build

[icy zinc]

@leaden quiver https://youtu.be/rdQrfTdg_Lg ENOOOOOOOOORMOOOOOOOUS (im exaggerating)

you already know

[cobalt blade]

chat ban rating

[uneven gust]

It's 3x 60kehp with 70% evade 78% block

[obsidian wharf]

hello guys returning player with 100 hourse so a new player
quick question how to start the league character
i pressed create then standard and keepers and hardcoree keepers which one to choose ?

[whole bluff]

What's 67 anyway?

[prime hill]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01K91ZKMKBW0EA884967R3MHCM/3x.avif

[uneven gust]

Alicia ascendancy

[tranquil sedge]

keepers ends tomorrow
wait till 6 march to play the game if you can wait

[cobalt blade]

keepers would be how you start it but ends tomorrow

[icy zinc]

6 7

[tranquil sedge]

because thats when the next league starts and it will be called 'mirage'

[whole bluff]

I assume it's not 674 related?

[tranquil sedge]

some idiot young kids thing

brainrot content

[prime hill]

just a shitty internet meme

[leaden quiver]

Told u

Nuts for ballista totems

[icy zinc]

its a good time to start keepers, lvl 1 to feared

[leaden quiver]

Nuuuuts

[uneven gust]

Yeah like 69 or 420 or 1738 or 8675309

[icy zinc]

but dont expect to buy anything

[leaden quiver]

Storm burst type shit

[gentle chasm]

yea but youre still playing totems

[leaden quiver]

U use cowards wail shield

And have undying totems

[icy zinc]

erecting a totem

[leaden quiver]

Hucu refuses to

[icy zinc]

i will refuse

jojo style

[leaden quiver]

Hello I will not like having 50% of my dps extra

[icy zinc]

still crazy that wilma hat still alive with soul eaters

[uneven gust]

Wilma balls

Reminder belt annoint, totem giga buff

[icy zinc]

what to anoint tho

[leaden quiver]

Wilma + cowards wail + wand + coiling whisper