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[spice pecan]

you just become a sprinkler

of deth

[hexed mountain]

its still an S tier build

[prime hill]

exsang is more like you spend 100-150d at most to delete ubers

[split maple]

Just start slaping around ES tattoos

[prime hill]

then you swap to something else

after farming enough

[split maple]

Like leaning into int stack don't make sense anymore

[hexed mountain]

totally could yeah

[icy swan]

hmm tatos instead int maybe

[frigid wedge]

i miss ror2 but i got sick of a 30 quid dlc every 2 months

[spice pecan]

i think that's more like every 1.5-2 years lol

[prime hill]

how I was fixing secondary stats was crafting/buying cheap 5 passive jewels etc and corrupting them early league, amulet, and not like you go dagger before getting enough for the metacrafted daggers

[spice pecan]

sotv was 2022, sots was 2024, and ac was end of 2025

[prime hill]

• 2 dd timeless jewels with some goodies around is cheap for more regen etc etc

tl;dr

its still good

selfchill setup is bis compared to graft setup we had last league

and not hard to setup

[frigid wedge]

it felt very close together and i felt like i was missing out

and i didnt wanna play like that

:/

[icy swan]

tatoos should be fix now bc 5% hp and 3% for es only

they should buff it for 5% es

[tight plinth]

why cant the league come already

[stoic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/insanecat-gif-16700687584290242459

[tight plinth]

i wanna test my super secret janky build

[tranquil sedge]

buying cluster jewels with 1 extra passive is a nice budget hack yup
but only if there's supply of actually good ones :x

[prime hill]

yoinked

[spice pecan]

is this the league where i dont pick a leaguestarter or make a pob

and just fucking yolo it?

[stoic horizon]

do it

[split maple]

Yes

[tight plinth]

thats usually what happens to me

[prime hill]

almost every miner uses same clusters atleast

[spice pecan]

ngl, dual strike of ambi impale champ

[prime hill]

im just scared of fossils

[spice pecan]

looks really fucking fun

[tight plinth]

make a bunch of pobs, then decide on another unpob-ed build

[past rain]

whats best leveling for totem?

power siphon totem?
holy flame totem?

until KF swap

[split maple]

These clusters are Just like 5x reforge speed or smh like that no?

[icy swan]

20 tatoos gives 500es curently, so i gues after nerf it be 1000 instead int note.

[prime hill]

yep

[hexed mountain]

https://pobb.in/Ld25AMlyqBHs there

[spice pecan]

if hiero, go holy flame

if not hiero, go non totem till swap

[hexed mountain]

with ES tatoos and LoM rather than int stack

[spice pecan]

imo

[past rain]

is holy flame good enough campaign?

[spice pecan]

yeah, i run it till i swap to whatever totem build im playing

3.25 i swapped to storm burst, 3.26 shockwave, 3.27 flameblast of celerity

[past rain]

imma try it

[spice pecan]

usually by lab 1-2

[past rain]

whats the links

[drowsy eagle]

rain of arrow totem was so good I played it through the whole campaign

[hexed mountain]

holy flame totem of ire looks like real solid dps

was 39% more damage than normal and now got another 20% more on top

[spice pecan]

infused channeling, added fire, phys to lightning

[past rain]

ikk

kk

[steel light]

did they release the actual end date and time for keepers yet?

[split maple]

Kinda want to swap shield to aegis aurora and non-body armor pieces to arm/ES hybrids + take divine shield (need a bit of work on passive tree to get enough armor but doable from when I was pobing)

Would feel comfier imo

Ik keeping Bertha gear there 😄

[hexed mountain]

a fat 450 ES shield with es on block would outdo it too yeah

[past rain]

usually a day before launch no?

or two

cant remember

[spice pecan]

no, its long before the reveal

but its generally 3 days before new league launch

so march 3 i believe

[past rain]

yeah

[steel light]

still would prefer an actual time so i can convert my currency into better assets

[past rain]

u want standard currency?

[stoic horizon]

imagine caring about standard

[split maple]

Isn't 2nd march?

[past rain]

theres tons of people willing to give u standard stuff if u want

[steel light]

better to hold onto shards than divs, and i'm fine with playing standard if future league sucks like keepers

[split maple]

Idk cba to check

[tranquil sedge]

keepers ends 2nd yh

mirage starts 6th

[spice pecan]

wait, they're ending a day early this time?

fuark how am i gonna endure FOUR std days

[hexed mountain]

just play something else

[spice pecan]

no

[split maple]

Maybe I will get to a3 practice even

[icy swan]

nice, is it with 80% es nerf ? becase u turn on gem that i turn off to make it equal.
but yeah now tatto worth more than int, curious price of that tatoo xD

[spice pecan]

the only other games i want to play are incompatible with watching youtube on the third monitor

so other games are not viable

[tranquil sedge]

the solution is watch youtube on your main monitor for 4 days

and play no games

[hexed mountain]

its with 50% reduced ES from 500 int

[tranquil sedge]

or better yet touch grass for 4 days

[spice pecan]

i mean thats what i've basically been doing the last week or two

[hexed mountain]

and 50% reduced golem effect

[tranquil sedge]

so you dont have to touch it for 4 months after

[spice pecan]

i don't leave my house

[tranquil sedge]

well i think u know what to do then

https://klipy.com/gifs/getout-28

[hexed mountain]

the level 1 sup gem is the imbued thingy

[spice pecan]

i will not!

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[split maple]

How much aoe does Evi actually lose by lossing 50% flame golem effect

[spice pecan]

going outside costs money and physical exercise

[split maple]

Not that it matters with prolif

[spice pecan]

two of which are Very Bad

[tranquil sedge]

well if u just go for a walk around wherever u live i think it will be free

[hexed mountain]

depends on where you live

[tranquil sedge]

and physical exercise = more energy = better poe performance

[hexed mountain]

london enjoyers : gets shanked

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[hexed mountain]

no poe at the hospital , league start ruined

[split maple]

More calorie usage

That's money

[drowsy eagle]

when will we get the antiquarian nodes?

[spice pecan]

walking also equals sweat which is yucky

[hexed mountain]

tomorrow evening

they said monday NZ time

[spice pecan]

idk but sweating makes me like freak out lmao

[hexed mountain]

then go to the pool

[spice pecan]

man i wish

i love swimming

[modern zinc]

I need a lazy build that's not RF and DO

[split maple]

Herald of hive

[tranquil sedge]

swimming is just sweating with less steps
either way you end up wet in the end

[split maple]

Imagine rf with damage

[hexed mountain]

wait i didnt see but vaal absolution got from 200% more to 300% more damage

innocence slaps

[icy swan]

nice, just curious why its sey 0 er regen ?

[tranquil sedge]

his partner can take him out on a date ez

[atomic crane]

Harbies gone = RF useless

[bold scarab]

Meh

[atomic crane]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-screaming-cat-disappearing-monjjunirawr-cat-scream-cat-screams-gif-2353694372143718210

[modern zinc]

mirage is a clear league

RF will be goated

[tranquil sedge]

that's not how it works

[bold scarab]

I think Dom blow sentinels got the same buff but it's kinda whatever

[hexed mountain]

thats while you have the shavs ring , its a swap for bossing , use berek for mapping

[lucid gale]

Keepers ends <t:1772485200:F>
Play for free <t:1772823600:F>

[split maple]

Also toxic sewers gone

[tranquil sedge]

especially with their explode chance going from 5% to 10% lol
even if the explode damage cut in half still a net win i think

[split maple]

Doubletap

[atomic crane]

Lemme be sad

[split maple]

Just slap ignite prolif on gloves

[tawdry olive]

the bigger hit to RF is actually toxic sewer being gone

[lucid gale]

via https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3912208

[atomic crane]

My fav mechanic and map are gone

[tawdry olive]

i think this is kinda going under the radar

[bold scarab]

They did make it harder to sustain cuz they raised the duration by 50%

[tawdry olive]

toxic sewer is like the perfect RF map

[bold scarab]

From 20 base to 30 base

[split maple]

What rfers gonna do now, stacked decks in waste pool?

[hexed mountain]

RF is buffed : just use shrine belt to be at 90 max res and have you explosions crit

[native abyss]

sad

[split maple]

Oh criting hinekoras is rly good take

[tawdry olive]

gloom shrine for double explode pog

[hexed mountain]

can skip the entire fire res branch too

[icy swan]

ah it block complety, i gues it can not be becasue u have no other sources to get es back ? or leaching etc ?

[split maple]

Can someone pob me diamond shrine belt + 2x nebulis elevated crusader for that sweet 90-100% explode chance

Idc ascend

[hexed mountain]

yeah just use the berek then since you dont leech

or some heist ring with inc ES

[atomic crane]

What would be good xp now since harbingers are gone

[tawdry olive]

breach baby

as in the old days

[atomic crane]

Fk this new breach

[tawdry olive]

well.. assuming it kinda still works like the old days

which it looks like you can get it to

[split maple]

Double taming+ ignite prolif on gloves

Makes dot cap easier

[stoic horizon]

you can force unstables

[hexed mountain]

yeah but its already dot cap without even alchemist mark burning ground

[stoic horizon]

and have multiple

[split maple]

Or even that Black star ring for covered in Ash, since grafts gone

[atomic crane]

I better see 3 a map

[stoic horizon]

5 with scarab

+2 on some chance from tree

[atomic crane]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-amazed-funny-surprised-camera-gif-25640741

[tawdry olive]

i hope there's a node that says boss doesnt spawn but gives you some other benefit for the unstable breach

having to go back to the center was always a pain anyway

[hexed mountain]

lowkey if you get the shrine belt on RF you just go elem RF and explodey chest dont you

[tawdry olive]

basically max out giga damage whatever it is since your entire res problem is fixed

[hexed mountain]

yeah and make sure your crit explodes ignite

[icy swan]

this ring gives 2k es i see quite ncie but blocking regen yeah xD without it 16.5k es not bad

[atomic crane]

Chieftain is the only true RF

[tawdry olive]

sorry we are heretics over here

[split maple]

And two explode nebulises surely

[stoic horizon]

it used to be bait in olden times

[split maple]

Ik ik better dmg Grace of goddess

But almost 100% explode chance is crack

[grizzled lily]

can we have 7 defence breaches i wonder

[split maple]

Why do you care for regen tho

Like just ES on block and chill

[stoic horizon]

its unstable only iirc

[grizzled lily]

why

[stoic horizon]

because the modifiers say so

[grizzled lily]

i want to start all 7 of them

[hexed mountain]

17700 with a manifold ring and inc es/flat es on it with crusader

its ok

[past mantle]

Frostmage solving so many issues man. :coppegy:

[hexed mountain]

the cursed occultist RF with blasphemy flammability

[past mantle]

With enough reserved mana it just disables spirit burst.

It's the easiest way to disable it now.

[hexed mountain]

or just FF profane bloom on elem :^)

[icy swan]

with spirit shield this 5% isnt big, overa 1k wasnt enaught, or maybe ucnat regen if u getting hit ? idk but sometiems it wasint enaught but i remember i missed something and had 500es recharge

[hexed mountain]

ah yeah that's really cool

[spice pecan]

wait, tyty has blade flurry champ on his list

[past mantle]

FF Profane Has been very decently priced for the past few leagues.

[spice pecan]

is this a real build

[hexed mountain]

tyty is memeing he has no warden

[past mantle]

I am realllllllllllllly happy with all the tech people are coming up with like 10 gems we saw total.

Good league when the creative juices are flowing.

[hexed mountain]

i just hope the damn exceptional gem wont be 0.5% droprate on their bosses

[spice pecan]

oh it's reave gencry bladeflurry

[hexed mountain]

i dont wanna run 200 neglect

[past mantle]

If they're anything like awakeneds they'll be fine enough.

[hexed mountain]

would be cool if the conquerors and guardians got exceptional gems themed for them too

[past mantle]

Thatd be neat.

[modern zinc]

I don't think inquisitor RF is as tanky as advertised. I think i'm gonna try a lifestacking build next league instead

my inqui RF is dying a lot

I can't even afk simulacrum

poison killed me like 4 times there

[past mantle]

Show pob.

RF inquis is kinda in the middle of tank and clear so shouldn't be having issues with simus.

[modern zinc]

https://pobb.in/IBJQCzxWhw8u

[spice pecan]

RF inquis is not a build anymore

[hexed mountain]

118%

[modern zinc]

instead of Righteous Providence ascendancy passive I should get the Trialmaster bloodline

[spice pecan]

i would consider respeccing to mana rf hiero if you want to stay on templar

[modern zinc]

and get blood brarier

[icy swan]

@hexed mountain with your build this might be over cap, or at lest belt dont change anything,
so i could use mageblood now

[past mantle]

RF inquis isn't tmlike dead or anything.

[modern zinc]

that's not high enough?

[spice pecan]

what's the reason for playing RF inquis

over hiero or chief or scion

[hexed mountain]

usually yeah

[modern zinc]

I have a lot of ES so I thought it wouldn't be too bad

[modern zinc]

regen

you double it

[spice pecan]

regen isn't a problem on RF tho

[modern zinc]

yeah but I have like 1.3k net recovery

[spice pecan]

like that's the first problem you solve on rf

[modern zinc]

that's like a health potion online all the time

[hexed mountain]

sir

[past mantle]

I don't think there's a reason to play it over chief or elementalist or hiero but I don't think its unplayable either.

[modern zinc]

I need the charge duration actually

my armor replenishes an end. charge every 14 seconds

that node makes them last 16

[hexed mountain]

upgrade your implicit

[spice pecan]

you gain like 31% increased damage from inquis

and some regen

[past mantle]

Its not a build that got killed, just one that got outdone by others.

[spice pecan]

that's basically it

[modern zinc]

yeah I guess I could

[opal ingot]

ive never seen this flask in my life

[tight plinth]

dont, take that node so kharjou will think about it before he goes to sleep

[frigid wedge]

ive seen on many

[hexed mountain]

you got 3 duration nodes for endurance charge and 2 points 30 dex

[frigid wedge]

magefist builds

[hexed mountain]

that's beyond ghetto setup

[opal ingot]

yeah im watching his new flicker vid

[modern zinc]

I need the dex for fire trap

[split maple]

Make your item filter worse

[frigid wedge]

thats pob

[opal ingot]

im bummed that he went for duelist this time, cuz triple block glad for 95% block is too juicy

[split maple]

This flask tho has hella funny synergy with taunt

You like juggling with mobs

[tight plinth]

wasnt that at some point the pinnacle of melee flask?

[past mantle]

Cap your chaos res first thats for sure, you can replace our flask for it.

[opal ingot]

guess i have to use a little bit of my free will to adjust his old zerk flicker

[hexed mountain]

this flask used to be goated

30% more melee phys

[tight plinth]

it used to be 30%?

[opal ingot]

holy moly

[frigid wedge]

issue w lions roar is if ur lacking certain types of targeting it just gimps ur dps bc of positioning

[tight plinth]

poggies

[frigid wedge]

which is why is fine on flickee

[split maple]

hmm defiled forces nerf is actually kinda annoying

[hexed mountain]

like you got 8 points you should be fixing on gear

that's enormous

just get two 50+ dex suffixes on gear

[opal ingot]

you know what fuck it

ill do glad flicker, then when i get enough cash ill level a marauder

[modern zinc]

maybe I should try flicker too

I want a lazy build to play

[hoary bone]

Hello everyone, I have a question for the upcoming 3.28.
I heard in a video someone saying Fossils will now be a Delve drop only, but I don't see the infos in the patch note, can anyone enlighten me please :)?

[modern zinc]

I wonder if it works well with predictive mode? I have 90 ping so I can't play lockstep

[split maple]

patch notes dont have everything

[modern zinc]

they forgot to write it

[split maple]

so yea fossils gone

[frigid wedge]

how does one crit cap a bow build

[hexed mountain]

brittle

[split maple]

em bleed wheel, blind wheel and hope

[lucid gale]

IIRC, it was covered in the Q&A.

[spice pecan]

yeah bleed wheel helps

[hoary bone]

My thanks

[hoary bone]

Thanks!

[spice pecan]

unless you have to convert 100% to non phys

[frigid wedge]

how does one bleed on cold convert

[spice pecan]

you just go like 99% convert

[split maple]

by leaving 1% unconverted 😛

[hexed mountain]

you dont convert with mastery

[spice pecan]

hrimsorrow in shambles

[hexed mountain]

you use gloves to setup 95% or smth

[split maple]

crit without these is kinda annoyinge

[frigid wedge]

I don't know if i have the freedom to convert w glove

at all

i mean ig

[hexed mountain]

watcher's eye convert?

[frigid wedge]

id like hatred watchers but then i need a double hatred haste watcher

:/

cdrr, convert, crit

honestly brittle doesn't seem awful but i need clear dps a lot more than sing target

[hexed mountain]

could go for blind crit wheel then

if its too hard to get bleed

(could manaforge bleed frenzy too maybe)

[modern zinc]

I'm kinda sad Dissolution of the Flesh doesn't work with RF

[spice pecan]

anyone tried the reave/bladeflurry champ from jung in 3.26?

[dark grove]

God why isn't league this week ;-; my college semester starts next week

[spice pecan]

it looks pretty cool, and i'm kinda wanting to play some attack based champ

[lucid gale]

Timestamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBv6SfYnNSg&t=1h21m40s

[dark grove]

Brittle gives lots of single DPS. You need to invest less in chance and more in multi

[frigid wedge]

trinity on cold convert with 10 apd is spreading mydelf too thin right?

[lapis dove]

sorry when are the 3.28 builds going to be released?🤔

[hexed mountain]

they already are , open pob

[potent bramble]

Sometime in the next 2-3 weeks

[lapis dove]

ah mb i was looking at the maxroll builds

[true falcon]

What is a basic normal minion build so I can poeninja and see how minions are built

[lilac parcel]

mappers bring this why is it showing up in loot filter

[frigid wedge]

not how minions work

[lucid gale]

Depends on how speculative you want your build to be.

[true falcon]

Dang.

[icy swan]

https://pobb.in/ZEtZoxGxjgGX
that was my poison fross build with similar ish cost to evi just with mageblood. but posion fros a lot more immortal than evi - posioned enemy cant crit, + bigger es regen and leaching.

[frigid wedge]

thats like saying every wander is the same

[potent bramble]

I think Raise Spectre and Raise Zombie of Slamming are probably the two most generic minion builds, there's several others but they get progressively more nuanced

[true falcon]

I mean...

[modern zinc]

I lowkey believe that

[spice pecan]

arent zombies like one of the most unplayable builds outside of cwc raise zombie of falling sabo

[lucid gale]

Something written before reveal and patch notes? Probably wildly out there.
Something after reveal and notes? Probably dodges the biggest changes.
Something after gems and whatever other teasers there might be? Probably even more informed.
Something once data mines land, even more.
Something once PoB is implemented - now we're talking 😄

[potent bramble]

Nah RZoS is functional. Might not be competitive, but it's functional

[spice pecan]

zombie ai is supposedly the worst in the game

from what i understand

[lucid gale]

I tend to wait for the MS Paint flowchart post or South Park build video.

[hexed mountain]

antiquarian build pobbed we ready for antiquarian full reveal tomorrow

[spice pecan]

lily's flowchart videos are so good

[lucid gale]

Been a while since I saw the latter.

[true falcon]

Trying to do something with Mark Effect minions but I get to the minion part and am just like "huh"

[modern zinc]

nothing some movement speed can't fix

[lucid gale]

I have no idea even what kind of build I want to start on.

[spice pecan]

movespeed, minions are aggressive, attackspeed

[potent bramble]

I just want my broken idea to not be a pipe dream lol, need it after having lost my Harbs

[spice pecan]

i saw alkaizer testing dual strike of ambi impale champ, looked really cool, kind of want to pob it

[fossil mural]

What did you lose them to? Car crash? Cancer?

[icy swan]

https://pobb.in/o0rch7icY9k2 so with mb evi 20k phy 115 ele max hit not bad if those ES tatoos are not expensie as hell xD

[potent bramble]

Prejudice Mark hates Blue People, confirmed (this is a joke, do not hate on Mark)

[native abyss]

zao you have to scion default attack

[fossil mural]

If you love - let go

[hexed mountain]

ES tatoo will be more expensive probably with int nerf people will want to tatoo int nodes

[icy swan]

yeah iwas thinkig abut it too

[fiery junco]

Is there some sorta list of what the big streamers are playing/pushing as good for Mirage? ie. what to avoid like the plague and sell gear for?

[potent bramble]

Yeah, I know... and I know they'll come back cooler than ever. But I was planning to farm them, as I always do, and now I can't lol

[potent bramble]

Not yet, most of 'em are still generating ideas I think. Don't bother trying to make Mamba gear though, lmao

[icy swan]

so theres no t17 maps, so i gues u dont need anymore that much power and survability ?
or u will need but on t16 maps ?

[modern zinc]

you won't need that much, yeah

[hexed mountain]

we dont know how hard mirages will be

[modern zinc]

won't need to make builds immune to all the mods either

[hexed mountain]

maybe the boosted events will be much stronger maybe not

[potent bramble]

I thought T17 just got a name change to Nightmare maps & a rebalancing of modifiers, but the difficulty was mostly intact. Could be wrong though

[hexed mountain]

nightmare maps are T16

[lucid gale]

No harbls, no breachstones. This hits all of my 3.13 levelling spreadsheets 😄

[fossil mural]

Its not prejudice, its statistics

[fossil mural]

Ggg pulling the poe2 high ilvl item shit

[split maple]

Now replace shield for smh with like 400es

[potent bramble]

Sure, but that doesn't work for the joke lmao

[hexed mountain]

alva : xp for each : Y E S

[native abyss]

spreadsheets what the heck

[split maple]

And Bertha FFS roll your flasks

Without changing flasks you don't get any benefit of mbloode

[lucid gale]

I did level 100 in 3.11, 3.12 and 3.13 with just Beachheads and Breachstones, as Intended.

[icy swan]

its in pob only i added this 70% stuff

[lucid gale]

And well, mapping/delve.

[split maple]

Eh fair I only checked quicksilver

You forgot that one

[delicate otter]

if I find the itch to play this league I have to try sweep again

[icy swan]

yeah but it ddint change stat so i didnt bother 😛

[fossil mural]

Mamba nerfs are still pending

As far as we know

[potent bramble]

Shhhhh! If I'm right, then it was good advice. And if it turns out I'm wrong, then it's "Creating a hole in the market" and I can profit 😉

(Didn't actually know the nerfs were pending review)

[true falcon]

Every patch notes I swear I'm like "ooo, I can't wait for the next phrecia"

[wintry lily]

as long as the change to how dual wielding works on it stays the thing stays dead anyways

[hoary scarab]

i mean, doesnt it still have like 1.5k DE for poisons

[fossil mural]

https://youtu.be/R_dtEUcA5ng

Now we talking

[visual stream]

real player skip league start

[icy swan]

I seen theres new "evisirate skill" but i gues its less good, seen its aoe not great ?

[visual stream]

this is just fake tier list

[fossil mural]

New what?

[visual stream]

the holy one

[icy swan]

dont know how its colled

[visual stream]

but we dont have number yet

[fossil mural]

There is literally a retal shield skill in the game already

😩

[icy swan]

so they just changed animation ?

[hoary scarab]

are you talking about shield of light?

[icy swan]

in video they showed something that counter with block and hit with light yes

after showcase with this 2hand weaopn swings

[hoary scarab]

yes thats shield of light

it seems to have potential, but we literally dont know til we are in game with it

[fossil mural]

Inb4 every consequtive hit does 90% less damage

Poggers

[hoary scarab]

fuck you

[fossil mural]

With the new cdr support

I am thinking playing glacial swipe

With bell

70% chance to retain use, another 20% to retain just cooldown

A bunch of cdr

Surely

[hexed mountain]

that's most likely the case

[stoic horizon]

huh what sushi is she eating that is not filling?

[hexed mountain]

there's no way the shield skill is just 40x damage if you got 40 minions

[fossil mural]

I mean obv

But they can make it dogshit

Or playable

[hexed mountain]

90% less is still 10% more damage per minion tho

[fossil mural]

Even if every new hit is less than before

[icy swan]

its allreaydy close range, evi u hit 12m ahead or more with ring

[fossil mural]

No no no

Every consequtive

Means 90% less second hit

Then 90% less 90% less third hit

[hexed mountain]

nah that would be basically no damage

[hoary scarab]

you can hit multiple minions with the first hit tho

[fossil mural]

I mean its retal skill

Surely theyll allow it

To be good somewhat

And not slap

70% less damage with ailments

[hexed mountain]

its a shame its a retaliation skill

[icy swan]

will be great like kinetic rain 😄

[fossil mural]

Whatever they added bell

[hexed mountain]

imagine if it was not retal how good farrul's attack speed per minion would go

[fossil mural]

It would just have numbers tuned down according

[hexed mountain]

arakaali x2 helm and 40 spooder then enjoy 140% attack speed and spamm

[icy swan]

i kinda like retal skill counter stuff, but yesh it got some issues

[fossil mural]

In this case it would actually have

What I aaid

At least rn it might be usable

[fossil mural]

Remove unlucky block from bell

Dumbest shit

[icy swan]

like sometiems during harvest mobs atack minons not me and i could do shit xD
but now without minons might be better

would be nice if it was like the more dmg u take u hit harder bos hiting u for 80% hp and u counter it x100 or something xD like in anime xD

[hoary scarab]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1ovnnpg/psa_the_monastery_bells_unlucky_block_is_actually/

(this is a buff)

[icy swan]

whats unlucky block

[stoic horizon]

something that requires reading

[tranquil sedge]

the opposite of lucky

[stoic horizon]

[icy swan]

ah for this item

[tranquil sedge]

ye its from the item

[icy swan]

i seen someone was swaping

with evi too

i did tryied but didnt work for me

[tranquil sedge]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Luck

Luck is a mechanic that rolls an outcome or a number in a range more than once, with Lucky rolls applying the best result of two rolls, Unlucky rolls applying the worst result of two rolls, and Unexciting rolls applying the "middle result" of three rolls.

[icy swan]

yeah xD

[signal hawk]

Unexciting is such a good name

[steel light]

anyone still remember by day 3 of keepers what's the cost of chaos for div?

[icy swan]

so like u counter normaly, then swap to this weaopn to counter again ? something like that >?

[hoary scarab]

between 50 and 200

hope this helps

[drowsy eagle]

poe ninja

[signal hawk]

poe.ninja has graphs for this

[steel light]

ok thanks

[fossil mural]

I thought unexciting was average between 2 rolls xdd

Yea that seems good

[signal hawk]

It's the power of maths

[hoary scarab]

yaknow it tells you when you press alt

[signal hawk]

I mean, empirically "middle of 3 rolls" I would just assume it's close to average of 2 rolls

[fossil mural]

As if I ever hovered that rune

[tough cove]

you know better than to assume people read on the internet

[fossil mural]

I probably heard it from someone and never checked

[fossil mural]

Didnt work how

As in was too clunky?

Poe1 wep swaps are nowhere near as seamless as poe2 unfortunately

There is like 300-400ms delay before you can do anything

[tight plinth]

did you hit with a shield attack?

[fossil mural]

You swap to bell, throw your shield, once it hits you swap back - your eviscerate is now active

[true falcon]

can the coins only add level 1 supports?

[fossil mural]

Borderline unplayable

[hoary scarab]

it seems so

[fossil mural]

If glacial didnt have the fucking ailment line

It would be better

Than evi

[leaden quiver]

sweep looks like similar damage to single target with old sweep

dang yo

whats the point

clear is better i spose

[fossil mural]

You can spawn multiple hammers

[paper root]

Ye, lvl 1 sup only

[fossil mural]

If you bother

[icy swan]

ahh i see not bad

[leaden quiver]

hm?

[paper root]

You either aim for utility support or whatever you weakest dmg will be to replace with hopefully a exceptional gem

[hexed mountain]

Sweep is massively buffed

[fossil mural]

Shit like worms, penance and hydrosphere would summon an extra hammer I believe

[stoic horizon]

or a gem that doesnt benefit much from levels

[leaden quiver]

hydrosphere thats interesting

[hexed mountain]

Get lots of AoE on sweep the hammers target your ennemies so they dont spread more you just get more overlap

[paper root]

Kind is utility basically, unless your roll added lightning dmg

[fossil mural]

Swipe isnt a strike skill right

[paper root]

That just useless

[hexed mountain]

Sweep and worm flask or penance tec is going to nuke

[fossil mural]

Penance you need too much aoe

The hammers are small

[hexed mountain]

Then just worms

And a hydrosphere

[paper root]

Generals cry hammers

[fossil mural]

Wormblaster the Nnth

[leaden quiver]

nope

i guess hydrosphere it is

[tough cove]

in the end,, it always rolls back to wormblaster

[fossil mural]

Where did that bring you? Back to me...

[hexed mountain]

Sweep with two hammers hitting the boss just from hitting him and hydro is already solid dps

[signal hawk]

Happy with ignite build > use coin to add a support > ele focus > cry

[tough cove]

is worm flask still the most nerfed item ever in poe?

[fossil mural]

Reddit will implode from posts like this

[hard cliff]

don't gamble what you can't lose

[paper root]

Surely people will be smart enough to not coin there current used gem and only gems on the back

[fossil mural]

R*edditors will think it cant brick

[tough cove]

i guarantee there will be at least one reddit post of an ele skill getting brutality on day 1 or 2

[signal hawk]

The obvious thing to do is too level 6 gems in weapon swap

[hexed mountain]

Ah i paid 3 div for a coin to imbue my skill :level 1 prismatic burst support

[signal hawk]

But I guess PoE players

[fossil mural]

Yea leveling gems on swap will actually be like okay?

And lenses

[hard cliff]

if its on Reddit they'll be asking ggg to change the interaction so nothing can brick

[leaden quiver]

interesting i guess

[hard cliff]

you're a poe player

[paper root]

Being a minion enjoyed means I get to deal with like 8 active gems

[hexed mountain]

Wait thats actually a giga nerf to builds that want vaal gems

You cannot imbue a vaal gem

[true falcon]

Holy Sweep Assassin poision because I'm dumb or something idk

[fossil mural]

Can only have one extra support in a link

So really annoying

[signal hawk]

And you wouldn't guess how many dumb things I did I'm this game

[hard cliff]

yeah vaal gems just get +1 this league

[fossil mural]

If you want to support multiple minions with one gem

[paper root]

@fossil mural per hear, 5 gears so 5 gems

[tough cove]

2.8 radius is really good which is a huge buff to og sweep

[hard cliff]

you can't +1 a imbued gem that's the catch

[leaden quiver]

well, holy sweep + berserker

[stoic horizon]

holy sweep slayer looks comfy

[leaden quiver]

is probably the way

with bmcry + 2 hydrosphere

[paper root]

They should just let coin auto give vaal gem if able

[fossil mural]

And you cant double corrupt an imbued gem as well

[hard cliff]

bad idea

[stoic horizon]

slayer or nothing

[hard cliff]

Holy sweep should be Templar only

[fossil mural]

It will be elementalist

[paper root]

Abso would be fun; but can't coin it

[hard cliff]

Thankfully she's been contained

[true falcon]

Holy Strike Assassin Oshabi for the mark effect with level 30 assassins mark

[leaden quiver]

real

but i guess bmcry hydropshere hydrosphere

is the play

[fossil mural]

Level 30 ass mark is dogshit

Deadeye is better

[hexed mountain]

Guardian has no aoe tho

[hard cliff]

he's got that faith though

🙏🏻

[true falcon]

125% mark effect > level 30 50%?

[hexed mountain]

Bro trying to hit mobs with thoughts an prayers

[fossil mural]

Not even close

[true falcon]

mhhh

[hard cliff]

I'm looking at kf totems but I'm worried it's gonna be super mainstream and fuck up my prices

[hexed mountain]

Guess slayer or jugg are the top contenders for sweep

[hard cliff]

[fossil mural]

Totems so no one will play

[hard cliff]

the build for it looks so versatile though

[leaden quiver]

berserker and slayer

for sweep

[hexed mountain]

You can get millions of dps with no items and a white wand

Should be fine really

[hard cliff]

so true

[hexed mountain]

Wand is kinda easy to essence craft

[paper root]

Spell totem support as a lvl 1 gem could happen on a caster....

[fossil mural]

How does it even look with no reduced duration

[hard cliff]

is there any easy way to set this up on s charecter without leech?

[hexed mountain]

Oh right did they say anything about manastorm and yoke? Core drop pool?

[fossil mural]

Do you wait for totem to summon, then cast full proj, then wait for time to run out?

[leaden quiver]

corrupting cry?

[tranquil sedge]

what does leech have to do with this?

[hard cliff]

drop hp and gotta leech it back fast but no leech means gotta use other means

[fossil mural]

Arent these t17 boss drops?

[tranquil sedge]

corrupting fever + lifetap sounds like one way to do it

[hexed mountain]

Yeah but no t17 maps

[fossil mural]

They are still there

They just have 1 less ilvl

[leaden quiver]

nightmare maps are there

[tranquil sedge]

they aren't t17 anymore

they're t16 now

[fossil mural]

Its basically the same thing

[tranquil sedge]

but ye they still gonna be hard mods

[hexed mountain]

We dont know if they kept the items

[fossil mural]

They did

[tranquil sedge]

its just renamed to nightmare and dropped area level 84 -> 83

amongst other reduced reward changes

[leaden quiver]

they would mention if they were moved to the core drop pool

lol

[tranquil sedge]

u can see it on the voidstone hover in the reveal

[fossil mural]

Didnt the say they slightly buffed quant from t17 mods

[hexed mountain]

As if they mentionned everything

[vale holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w-Xng8J0I0 7:24 anyone know where this music is from?

[fossil mural]

In the notes

[tranquil sedge]

no opposite

Slightly increased the reward values of Originator-influenced and Nightmare Map modifiers that granted Increased Pack Size or Item Rarity.

Slightly reduced the reward values of Originator-influenced and Nightmare Map modifiers that granted More Currency, Maps or Scarabs.

[hexed mountain]

Its cool if they stay the same way

[hard cliff]

that's wild

[hexed mountain]

Can target farm manastorm

[strong totem]

Time for a 30 imbued skill build

[fossil mural]

They didnt buff quant lmao

Just pack and rarity

[tranquil sedge]

well that makes sense doesn't it, for what they wanna do

[fossil mural]

I skimmed through assuming they did

[tranquil sedge]

it's gonna be at least a little bit worse than running t17s before in terms of juice/reward

[fossil mural]

But it also makes 16.5 worse

[hexed mountain]

The juice will be ik astrolabe zones probs

[tranquil sedge]

astrolabes are the main diff

[fossil mural]

Strands too

[tranquil sedge]

ppl saying coz of nightmare maps being on the edge of atlas, astrolabe not as good for em?

so it benefits maps up to t16.5 better?

[fossil mural]

They cant get

[warm musk]

[Hwo bad is this? https://pobb.in/rYddgaBZsU6L

[fossil mural]

The blotches

At all

[tranquil sedge]

oh straight up can't astrolabe them?

oh yea okay thats going to be a big difference then lol

[hexed mountain]

Probably cannot open nightmare in a zone with astrolane

[fossil mural]

They have their own special sections

[vale holly]

Correct

[fossil mural]

Completely cut off from the tree

[hexed mountain]

So 16.5 in astrolabe zone will be the play

[hard cliff]

level 1 chain could be a good imbued roll

[tranquil sedge]

8 mod t16.5 is gonna be the highest tier of map farm now for more people i think ye

[fossil mural]

You will have to run different layouts for max juice btw

Or it might cut blotches early

[true falcon]

level 1 phys to lightning

[vale holly]

Yup unfortunately

[tranquil sedge]

there's a keystone that lets you get around this

[hard cliff]

I do that already 😛

[hexed mountain]

Heavy damage penalty at level 1

[fossil mural]

It cuts a random map

[vale holly]

It's less juice though

[tranquil sedge]

how so?

[fossil mural]

So it can cut a blotch more than normal

[vale holly]

If a map is cutt off from the chain, it will be removed

[hexed mountain]

An acceptable sacrifice

To not run shit maps

[tranquil sedge]

i'll take ur word for it
but that seems okay tbh

i dont think its bad to reward running a few more layouts than you would otherwise

[sly basalt]

I love this emote:

[vale holly]

I don't completely get how it would work though, like if you split it in the middle, which part will be removed?

[fossil mural]

It makes reliquary rooms rush a thing

[tranquil sedge]

especially now that rolling maps has become easier?

[opal ingot]

lmao reminds me of thefatrat dota music

[fossil mural]

I hope its good

[vale holly]

Yeah it was mentioned in the Q&A

[fossil mural]

The biggest will survive I imagine

[vale holly]

That would make sense

[hexed mountain]

Im a bit scared that the way the chain works is that it gives the modifier of the map you completed to the next ones. Making it optimal to pick maps in a certain order

Like start your astrolabe zone with the map that rolled 35% more currency

[fossil mural]

I think it just buffs the blotch

[tranquil sedge]

i dont think its a specific order?

[vale holly]

I've seen up to 9 maps, so you sacrifice 4-5 maps. It will depend on how expensive the astrolopes are. If they are expesnive then you can't use the keystone

[fossil mural]

Its an aura

Mods stay the same

[tranquil sedge]

^ wat he said, buffs the whole splotch i think

[fossil mural]

You just get more

[opal ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVFrM13tBiQ

[vale holly]

It's so relaxing

[hexed mountain]

We will see if its good or bad

[tranquil sedge]

it is a nice soundtrack 😄

[hexed mountain]

I hope its valid to farm one layout and not horrible for loot

[tranquil sedge]

should be fine

[opal ingot]

this is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At8v_Yc044Y

[tranquil sedge]

i cannot see a world in which that is going to fail

[fossil mural]

Jiji would say " #2┃general "

[opal ingot]

good

[vale holly]

If the sextents are well priced, it will be fine to sacrifice maps to run one layout

[opal ingot]

any mention of tourism must be nipped at its bud

even if its friendly fire

[tranquil sedge]

i like that ppl are calling them sextants again

[hexed mountain]

Im in ssf so it will depend on droprate more than price. Will see how worth it is

[coral summit]

What counts as losing a charge for this line on Willclash? Gain a Power Charge every Second if you haven't lost Power Charges Recently

[fossil mural]

Its called astrolabe damn it

[coral summit]

does spending charges count?

[fossil mural]

Yes

[coral summit]

ah

[opal ingot]

i have a service idea

you run all the garbage maps for them

[hard cliff]

Calling out tourists is good but I don't see how it applies in a f2p game lol

this is a theme park by definition

[coral summit]

and the only way to bypass the lose charges on block is to gain a way to prevent blocking at all rite

[opal ingot]

so they can do the extra juice at the end

[hexed mountain]

Helm is basically ralakesh only

[opal ingot]

while they watch anime

or tv shows

[coral summit]

ahh

so unuseable with cold snap of power

[hard cliff]

in Japan anime is tv shows

[vale holly]

My only problem with Astrolabes is that they add random juice and not all genetic. I'd prefer more rarity than adding strongboxes if i'm doing blight astrolabe

[fossil mural]

Just play the shrine belt

[opal ingot]

okay. english shows

[rough egret]

no holy relic nerfs 🥱 another stale minion meta but BAMA was the issue iguess

[stoic horizon]

outside of japan some are/were too

[fossil mural]

If its totally random it will be dogshit

[rancid tendon]

what do you guys think will be the main low value trading currency?

[fossil mural]

I doubt its totally random

[fossil mural]

Exalts

[opal ingot]

chaos orbs. i will singlehandedly keep the supply low

[fossil mural]

Poe2fication

[opal ingot]

i will chaos spam every item

[hexed mountain]

We have no data for holy armament

And several minions got buffed

[vale holly]

It looks like it will always add 1-2 genetic after adding 1-2 mods for the specific mechanic, then it will add random stuff

[opal ingot]

i promise you i will keep the chaos to divine ratio under 250

i will shoulder the burden

[rancid tendon]

what will you do if you dont succed

[fossil mural]

Theyve shown one instance of it

You cant judge shit from that

[opal ingot]

i will eat my hat

[vale holly]

Sure, but we can only go off by what's available for now

[fossil mural]

Is it made from bacon

[stoic horizon]

[fossil mural]

Yea so we dont make baseless assumptions

[opal ingot]

cotton

[fossil mural]

[stoic horizon]

same stuff ngl

[fossil mural]

Basically mutton

[modern zinc]

so there's only 4 builds you can play as a lifestacker
Dark Pact
Grey Wind
Burning Arrow of Life
Righteous Fire

[fossil mural]

You can play anything as life stacker

[rancid tendon]

i will hold you to it

[hexed mountain]

Antiquarian with nameless staff

[fossil mural]

Rathpith

[opal ingot]

do we count foulborn ghostwrithe eb players

[fossil mural]

And that

[hexed mountain]

Reliquarian*

[modern zinc]

oh true there's rathpith as well

ty

[stoic horizon]

last person who said that deleted their account

[fossil mural]

Altho I doubt its above 10%

[vale holly]

They've shown like 4 I believe, it's not too bad to get a base of how it works

[fossil mural]

So it will suck

[hexed mountain]

If the reliquarian node is good it will be a very strong rathpith build

[opal ingot]

they're not me

[fossil mural]

Also the unique scepter

That reserves life

Relict of the pact

Or something

[fossil mural]

Was that your other acc?

[split maple]

Relic is kinda the lifestack build rn

Idk if any other one is as strong

[hexed mountain]

We need rotating ascendancies ngl

[fossil mural]

Ggg already does this by making some stuff so dogshit no one plays it

Its basically rotation

[hexed mountain]

I would LOVE some wildspeaker on main league or surf or a lot of others

[split maple]

Tip tricky 😄

[spice pecan]

i wonder why there's no crown of eyes rathpith attack build

[hexed mountain]

Stop bullying assassin

[fossil mural]

One day ele will become obsolete

[spice pecan]

i guess you just need disso for lifestacking and no one is playing attacks with disso

[modern zinc]

a lot of ppl use both of those in AG of Smithing

[spice pecan]

ag of smithing

[hexed mountain]

I dont remember last time assassin wasnt a meme ascendancy

[spice pecan]

it will make me a rune scimitar

[modern zinc]

lmao

[coral summit]

idk about crown of eyes, but there is foulborn yfelban's trickery or whatever it's called

[opal ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-shaking-dog-wobbling-artqngel-gif-21411744

[fossil mural]

Tbh best budget bosses isnt really meme

[coral summit]

the 200% spell dmg to retaliate skills

[split maple]

Hard to get flat, I tried to cook some kb stuff (so not even need to lose helm slot) but at some point you rly want to go replica alberons and then its Just strstack not lifestack

[coral summit]

and just life stack with grey wind+rathpith+helmet

get eighty morbillion damage per eviscerate

it's even runnable with dissolution

[spice pecan]

only applies to retal sadly

[fossil mural]

Not a bell build - not interested

[coral summit]

and this league

you can even do enmity+double synth rings

to prevent all fire damage taken from the self dmg

to not brick it

[spice pecan]

i guess you could do this with grey wind, not kb but an actual attack

[hoary scarab]

i wonder how expensive that saresh belt will be

[coral summit]

then u use massive shrine+crit shrine

[spice pecan]

and then enmity's embrace obv

[coral summit]

and print infinite damage

[toxic token]

What weapeon should i use whith totems?

[hoary scarab]

belt will prolly be more expensive than MB

[fossil mural]

Fists

[spice pecan]

wand or sceptre generally

[coral summit]

fuck i've talked myself into pobing it again

[fossil mural]

Depending on roll

Might be a good unid sell

[toxic token]

What does sceptre even do?

[coral summit]

the unfortunate thing is that you get locked out of uhh

other helmets

[fossil mural]

Like gull

[coral summit]

no gull, and if you run apostate no blunderbore

[fossil mural]

For the belt

Pog

[coral summit]

but it's still fine you'll still hit like 30k+ life

[pastel crystal]

is 100% minion crit worth giving up a wand and shield

Tryphanon + Maata Reliquarian

[coral summit]

and guaranteed crits on grey wind with eviscerate is strong as shit

cuz it's REALLY hard to scale crits otherwise.

[fossil mural]

Not dot eviscerate?

How do you clear

[coral summit]

dot is doable too but if you're lifestacking

you can get like

12m aoe and 200mil damage a cast

run gladiator and get chance to use again/chance to cast a different skill

and run a 4l (5l now) crushing fist

on another equip

[hexed mountain]

Glad with prismatic annoint is 70% chance to reuse

[fossil mural]

Sounds meh

[coral summit]

bounce back and forth between those two skills

[fossil mural]

Ill stick to shield retal

[coral summit]

cuz they will make the other one useable

[fossil mural]

[molten hazel]

ay is there a way to make totems auto place down ?

[coral summit]

do the other retals have better clear?

[fossil mural]

Can you coc totems?

[coral summit]

cuz i thought eviscerate was already huge

single biggest aoe per cast

[fossil mural]

Glacial could

[hexed mountain]

Crushing fist is nice aoe

[fossil mural]

Its big aoe

Crushing fist is not so much

[hexed mountain]

You get fist of war on it

[coral summit]

well if any other retal was useable with weapons

i'd try it

[fossil mural]

And the other retal skills are unusable

[coral summit]

but only evis+crushing fist are useable for it

with grey wind

[hexed mountain]

Bladestorm looks so cool but its bad

[fossil mural]

Its horrific

Same as divine retribution or whatever

Hopefully the new shield skill is good

[coral summit]

how much inc life is massive shrine by default, 50?

[hexed mountain]

Yeah

[modern zinc]

I never played Storm Brand, I wonder if it's good and fun

it looks like a pocket arc

[hexed mountain]

Its bad

They buffed the worst version of storm brand and nerfed it with refraction runegraft no longer applying

[spice pecan]

storm brand was bottom 5 damage skills in the game

now it's maybe like bottom 10

[modern zinc]

lmao

[rocky glade]

I have
Doubts
About Templar melee leveling

[hexed mountain]

Dont

[spice pecan]

kbolt of frag, storm brand, chain hook, bear trap, siphoning trap are like the worst dps skills imo

[rocky glade]

Templar is notorious for having zero mana leech on the side of his passive tree

[hexed mountain]

Mana isnt a big issue grab clarity

[rocky glade]

No I don't think I will
Gonna path down the Warrior path like a chump and grab that leech node

[hexed mountain]

Also holy skills are conversion skills so you can inspiration

[coral summit]

it's a shame on lifestack with diamond shrine marylenes isnt bis

cuz you want reflected simplex

with life+crit multi

similar multi and just like +550 life

[rocky glade]

Yeah but I'm not gonna run crit so its just an opportunity lost

[spice pecan]

Std players in 3.29 with legacy crit multi simplexes: 👀

[opal ingot]

can you give me one

[spice pecan]

Nomegalul

[opal ingot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/846389813531115521.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[fallow fern]

would jugg or berserk be better for sweep

[hexed mountain]

Jugg for aoe to overlap

But i would go slayer personally

[fallow fern]

kinda too far

but yea

slayer is best

[hexed mountain]

Get some intimidating cry worm flask overlap on boss and laugh

[fallow fern]

holy slam seems fun too

but that 220% effective dmg is kinda stinky

[opal ingot]

flicker with me

[tranquil umbra]

Templar also has like five ways to get mana regen out the wazoo

[hexed mountain]

440 on first hammerd and another 20 more with power charge

[opal ingot]

you go glad i go zerk

[rocky glade]

Can I outregen my attack speed

[fallow fern]

oh its 440 on first?

[hexed mountain]

Holy hammer with precise tec and romira sounds decent

[fallow fern]

ig my ass missed it

[fierce rock]

i now know what i'm going to be playing, and every post i make from here forward will be pure propaganda to throw GGG off my tail

[tranquil umbra]

I have no idea what your build is

[hexed mountain]

Yeah 100% more on first hammers

[fallow fern]

i though its 100% more after the first

[rocky glade]

Holy Strike Guardian

[tranquil umbra]

oh guardian ok

[thick narwhal]

next league we get harbi 2.0 with walls

[fierce rock]

i am sorry in advance to everyone that i mislead by saying a build looks "based" or "op"

[rocky glade]

Its just gonna be a regular strike melee build but with Guardian flavour and minion damage scaling

[tranquil umbra]

just get a jewel with mana leech

[hexed mountain]

Holy strike with wilma looks fun

[rocky glade]

Sure let me just get one while leveling

[tranquil umbra]

for leveling you suck it up and use clarity

[fallow fern]

do we know if the extra hammer minions do ur dmg

or just their base dmg is based on the main weapon

[rocky glade]

No

[rocky glade]

Yes

[hexed mountain]

Looks like basically animate weapon of reflection

[rocky glade]

Its gonna work like Manifest Weapon from PoE 2

[tranquil umbra]

so you want a dummy pdps weapon as usual

[rocky glade]

Makes a copy of your melee weapon

That uses your weapon stats but not any other sources of damage increase other than generic damage increase or minion damage increase

[hexed mountain]

AW of reflection except you scale it through your own attack speed

[rocky glade]

They will also do the Holy Strike attack, which depends on the stats might be broken

[hexed mountain]

If the attack has no CD it will be super good

[rocky glade]

3 hammers can appear at the same time, so its an average 4 attacks per attack

[rocky glade]

From the vid they pretty much is up all the time

[fierce rock]

that's 300% more attack, per attack

[hexed mountain]

Yeah. If its the case wilma and haste onslaught will give you enormous dps

While also giving nice mobility. Should feel good to play

[rocky glade]

Guardian has Elemental Relic, which solves your DPS aura

[hexed mountain]

Yep

[rocky glade]

So I can just run Haste

[hexed mountain]

Can afford haste

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-x-family-yor-forger-based-department-phone-uh-hello-gif-27583186

[hexed mountain]

Also lowkey templar needs haste aura to not feel like you are playing a semitruck

[rocky glade]

Guardian also has alot of mana reservation which means you can run another aura

[fierce rock]

yooo slams look based!!!

[hexed mountain]

Maybe play crit if the new crit minion gem has good values

[fierce rock]

what if that's my power fantasy though

[rocky glade]

Now the big brain is

How can I run DomBlow at the same time

[hexed mountain]

With huge AS to stack minion crit and multi

[hoary scarab]

i wonder how holy strikes minion attack speed will work

[hexed mountain]

You can dom blow every now and then to pop the debuff

[rocky glade]

I saw someone suggesting DomBlow for clear and Holy Strike for single target

[hard cliff]

Dump truck build

[rocky glade]

It attacks the same time you attack

[hoary scarab]

is it gonna be based on your attack speed or do you have to match minion attack speed and your attack speed

[rocky glade]

Basically think of it as Multistrike but minion damage scale

[hard cliff]

when do we get gem level info for the new skills?

[rocky glade]

It can proc Hallowed Flames

[rocky glade]

Next week, soonest is Wednesday I persume

[hexed mountain]

Probably atound wednesdat

[hard cliff]

cool Deal

[tired niche]

Don't they attack once, after which you have to spawn new ones?

[rocky glade]

But what I worried the most is that Templar gets this skill on the beach meaning that the stats can be shit

[hoary scarab]

no

[hexed mountain]

So its just stack pobs rn and cross out the ones with bad value gems on wednesday thursday

[rocky glade]

No, go watch the vid again

[atomic crane]

Alo Mr cat

[hexed mountain]

Its basically like wisps you spawn them then they stay on

[rocky glade]

Also

How will it work with Multstrike

Like imagine if the minion attacks on every repeat?

THAT WOULD BE TOO OP RIGHT

[hexed mountain]

They probably triple attack for every first auto of a triple attack

[rocky glade]

God I'm so excited and nervous

[tired niche]

Kind of looks like they disappear after attacking, but I suppose that could just be them teleporting back to you rather than respawning

[hexed mountain]

But maybe you can cancel tour attack to restart their triple attack and "create" dps

[rocky glade]

They dissapear when you don't hit anything anymore after a period

[dense rock]

Potential for minion builds to have fun detected. Nerfing all minion builds by atleast 25% overall

[rocky glade]

This isn't even a minion build
This is just a plain ass melee strike skill with minion flavour

[hexed mountain]

Basically melee hroc but without cd scaling

[dense rock]

minion tag involved in something that works = minions need a nerf

[hexed mountain]

Could be good with Eblade too

[tight plinth]

shhhhh

[dense rock]

didnt eblade use its face to block every nerf coming in that general direction?

[tranquil umbra]

attack EBlade real if true

[tight plinth]

wait no, only mace

[leaden mural]

Are there other skill with similar mtx to toxic rain and caustic arrow where it makes your skill look like chaos damage?

[tight plinth]

and staves i think

[rocky glade]

Sure if we get Emace

[hexed mountain]

Ah right might not be sword skill

[tight plinth]

in showcase they said, it inherits the weapons stats, im assuming thats just the dps right? special mods dont apply

[rocky glade]

Now I have to decide
1h mace/scepter with shield or dual mace/scepter

[rocky glade]

Maybe, we don't know

[tight plinth]

my guess is only the dps

[stoic horizon]

id assume otherwise ngl

[tranquil umbra]

most likely yes

[stoic horizon]

stuff that isnt triggers should work

[rocky glade]

If I had to guess yeah no special triggers or anything like that

Damage mods will apply though

[tight plinth]

im more thinking double damage from frostbreath

[hard cliff]

hello