1┃general

[olive sinew]

Doubt I’ll play with the lack of love to totem there is in the patch

[ocean folio]

it doesnt raise your peak dps in theory but it lets you ramp faster. i like to take it just because it feels better

[hard cliff]

Spellslinger spark sounds bad

Doesn't spark already want a ton of support gems ?

[hardy heron]

Recovery mastery

Not scalable though

[limpid prairie]

noted noted ill test thanks

[sly basalt]

Guys, what 1 button builds are you playing? I am 28 and now that I am older I can't handle the many buttons play style. Aside RF which I had a blast with, what you guys recommend?

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/OGCQ8Sq.png

Not enough but it's something

[mossy marsh]

28 is not old, play a button intensive build to train brain

(I will play totems or minions)

[hardy heron]

Faker (greatest LoL player of all time) is 29. You're fine

[hard cliff]

28 is not old wtf

[tranquil umbra]

you got trans shockwave totem

[hard cliff]

65 is old

[spice pecan]

flash, the greatest starcraft player of all time, is almost 40

[gritty epoch]

https://pobb.in/OMeBdg2RNtDG

[sly basalt]

Tbh, minions are sucky cuz if I lose specters I have to re buy them

[modern zinc]

I wonder how this node interacts with petrified blood

[tranquil umbra]

if you are in your twenties you are old

[karmic gust]

basically dead already

unlucky

[unborn shadow]

I thought this was fixed?

Couldn't you revive your dead Spectres?

[mossy marsh]

25 is finally adult. up to like 35 you're young adult. 35 to some 55 you're just adult. Then you're getting old

[solid thicket]

What is seeming to be a good class to start in for mirage ?

[gritty epoch]

mirage archers

[gritty garnet]

you can revive them but you can also delete corpses you buy accidentally if you had offering skills in trigger wands

[hard cliff]

Nobody answered my question so I'mma just check it in game myself like a boss

[mossy marsh]

:|

[solid thicket]

Any particular reason why ?

[gritty epoch]

coz it's mirage league /s

[solid thicket]

😭😭😭

I trusted you considering u have the helpful tag

[hard cliff]

I've never seen anyone add a sarcasm tag to a post or message that didn't immediatly kill any humor in it

[gentle chasm]

its not a help channel so hes excused

[gritty garnet]

I think you should set your discord guild tag to /s

[mossy marsh]

reddit user detected

[solid thicket]

Fair

[elfin shale]

@hard cliff Cook me something with Fleshrender

its dogshit but its really cool

[hard cliff]

I'm trying to cook cold spark

[solid thicket]

I didnt know which help channel to ask in so i came to general

[sly basalt]

You can?

[hard cliff]

You're fine brother just use a help channel for serious answers

[potent bramble]

I'm not at my desk right now, does anyone remember/can check what happens if you use a scouring orb on an item that has an anoint? Does the anoint get poof'd too?

[unborn shadow]

Yes (:

[sly basalt]

Ah, that's great

[elfin shale]

OH when people said Blight was dead they meant Blight not Blight

[solid thicket]

Which one though 😭

[gentle chasm]

its an enchant so its unaffected

[hard cliff]

What's your question ?

[elfin shale]

New player if you havent finished acts, after acts if you have

[solid thicket]

What builds seem good for mirage rn ?

[spice pecan]

you can ask here but yeah you might not get the most serious answers, as for a good class, they're all good

[modern zinc]

i'm not new player or senior citizen but I would like to play rf

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/Dj5fY4D.png

I have great news

[solid thicket]

No no like who's been made the most op or who is going to be played by a lot of players

[sly basalt]

Senior citizen is me

[heady cliff]

first time in many leagues i have no idea what to play, and that it not because expected league difficulty is too high

[arctic tundra]

always retal glad

[hard cliff]

Give it a few days and people will post league start lists and such like that. Someone can point you to the reliable ones. Maxroll GG is always very safe because they are peer reviewed before posting.
@solid thicket

[potent bramble]

Surely there's no shot you could anoint the new belt, then chance orb it into a unique, then ancient orb it to the fancy new shrine belt. Right? There's some super obvious rule that stops it and I'm just an idiot?

[stone tundra]

I think spark with new belt with accelerating shrine buff will be meta

[spice pecan]

that belt will not be cheap

[gritty epoch]

could squeeze more dps out if use AG

[hard cliff]

Wait does the belt roll different shrines or is it always diamond/resistance ?

[hexed mountain]

my man is disrespecting warden KF totems

[unborn shadow]

Do you recommend any Cyclone build to start? I'm still new to POE. I started in the Merc league

[gritty epoch]

1 offence 1 defence

[solid thicket]

Ok lol mb. Imma try righteous fire ig

[stone tundra]

1 offen 1 def

[solid thicket]

Thank you

[gritty epoch]

no, unless its coc (as 2nd build)

[bronze falcon]

everyone loves the coc

[potent bramble]

Was the 1 off/1 def confirmed? Or is thst just from the rumor I reported seeing yesterday

[solid thicket]

I dont get to play a lot hence i was just asking which one is gud now

[split maple]

Ancient orb doesn't give a fuck about your anoint, won't work

[solid thicket]

Coz i just come here to quench my thirst for pve

[gritty epoch]

afaik they said it in Q&A

[unborn shadow]

Boooo I wanted to be a beyblade T_T

[split maple]

Also cannot ancient to non-global drop unique

And shrine belt is boss drop

[hard cliff]

Cyclone shockwave exists

[bronze falcon]

Cold convert blade vortex is very fun

[fierce rock]

so accel+resistance is probably best combo then?

[stone tundra]

Do you know that poe is successful because is it made for addicted adult gamblers like us?

[bronze falcon]

spin to win, screen wide pops

[heady cliff]

you are 15 leagues late for that

[native token]

i think the chagne to ships is a good choice

[unborn shadow]

Respectfully, you're all typing in a language I do not understand LOL

[native token]

you shoudnt get free currency for afking

[gritty epoch]

esm can u help with this build? https://pobb.in/4NpjZyw0nJTb

[bronze falcon]

Na, played it in 3.27

[elfin shale]

Cord Belt doesnt have any uniques (that we know of so far)

[hexed mountain]

crit shrine belt , herald of ice clear

[hard cliff]

Does anyone actually got a POB for Ballista KF that's league start ?

I love the idea of a turret build

[heady cliff]

you could fishing rod before

[hard cliff]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-tf2-team-fortress-2-Fr37eNsqI7MPJHIWE9

[hexed mountain]

fishing rod is bad for BV

because fishing rod is more cast speed and cast speed mod on rod

[split maple]

Can just copy fishing rod hot and give it real weapon, no?

[hexed mountain]

which BV have 0 scaling with

[split maple]

How much res would you need with res shrine belt to fit in Anni light 🤔

[gritty epoch]

those are cold convert i think

[bronze falcon]

Yep

[split maple]

Is elementalist version also cold convert? I didn't look at these hots much

Or just surfcaster

[gritty epoch]

the surfacer pob i saw has 5m dps

[hard cliff]

that'

is awful lol

[split maple]

Why not herald of hive tho

[hoary scarab]

spin to win, screen wide poops

[split maple]

And some explodeys

[thorny hemlock]

holy shit 8k hours in and TIL

[bronze falcon]

Chronic_painless cold convert was an elementalist

[modest depot]

oof

[modest depot]

int accuracy stacker

[onyx adder]

Yea we know

[hexed mountain]

SSSS tier to S tier RIP

[modest depot]

its f tier

[split maple]

Not even s tier, too much invest needed

[hexed mountain]

maybe A+

[heady cliff]

no int evasion mastery?

[split maple]

Strstacker beats it now on same budget easily

[hexed mountain]

ah i didnt see

4500 int

yeah that's not A tier

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/24S4EOg.png

Forbidden Rite works to trigger self chill with Winterweave + Call of the Void

The catch is it's 2 seconds so.......yeah

RIP

[fierce rock]

str stacker clearly the best stacker now then?

[elfin shale]

oh no, i only deal 150 million dps

[modest depot]

not on this setup but i dont think it matters

[modest depot]

if you put multiple mirrors into a build to get 150m dps its cooked bro

this is with extreme investment

[hexed mountain]

to be fair at 4500+ int 150M dps is hilariously bad

[hard cliff]

this is such a cool looking skill. There's no way to play it without trigger crap, and whispers of ininity tho is there ?

[elfin shale]

I get by with 5 mil on a good day, what do you even need all that damage for smh

[hard cliff]

Forbidden rite

[hoary scarab]

just leech

[elfin shale]

I mean you could play normal FR

[hexed mountain]

juiced content

[elfin shale]

which is, fine

Pira play Dark Pact skeletons itll be funny

[hexed mountain]

you cant do valdos on 5M

[hard cliff]

Fine is another word for bad

[hexed mountain]

ubers feel horrible on 5M too

[hoary scarab]

wait how does FR interact with unleash

[split maple]

5m even makes t17 with not even tank mods icky rn

gonna guess nightmare maps wont be any easier

[hard cliff]

You will take a hit for each repeat of the skill when used with

Spell Echo Support
or

Unleash Support
. This damage cannot be blocked, dodged, evaded or reduced by spell suppression.

[elfin shale]

I want to be clear i was joking because i was playing dogshit (i frankly dont even know if it hit 5mil)

[crimson hearth]

i crafted the wand

[hoary scarab]

rip

[crimson hearth]

well started atleast

[hard cliff]

I was considering a minion caster build with the beast bloodline but I dunno it's prob bad

[hoary scarab]

i really want to play a frostmage unleash stacker

[gritty epoch]

im not familiar with it and its not supportable with supports i think?

[golden moat]

spark with bow/quiver got buffed ?

[hoary scarab]

you can have +2 unleash seals now

wich is like, 11 seals iirc

[elfin shale]

200d budget trust guys its real

[hard cliff]

https://i.redd.it/5rgapjsaf2mg1.png

Patch notes for the illite

[elfin shale]

50 if you remove the mageblood

[hoary scarab]

thats like 50% words

[hard cliff]

It also says t17 reworked which is a very weird way to say removed from the game

[elfin shale]

Pira how much do i have to pay for you to play Stormbind this league

[golden moat]

the chieftain thing is a buff tho isnt it? 500% was overkill and now you get twice as many procs with the hateful accuser set up on bosses

[modern zinc]

there should be an uber exarch and uber eater of souls fight

[elfin shale]

Depends on what you're doing it for

its a big nerf to self-ignite

[gritty epoch]

baited btw

[hoary scarab]

nah holy flame totems good

trustge

[gritty epoch]

its good.... in act 1

[hoary scarab]

so its good

i take the W

[hard cliff]

Holy flame totem got me to act 4 in gauntlet

I'll forever respect it

🫡

[elfin shale]

Pira if the trans flamethrower trap doesnt have a cooldown should i play it

[hard cliff]

We curb stomped doedres fatass

[hoary scarab]

GGG give me the numbers for holy strike

[hardy heron]

Didn't notice this before
"Geneal changes"

[hoary scarab]

i need to know

[hard cliff]

Doesn't sound fun tbh

[thick goblet]

take lethe shade and put fr in 4 second trigger wand
you get 100% self chill uptime

[leaden quiver]

Added a new Intelligence Support Gem, Exemplar Support: Supports Minion skills, causing your minions to have increased Critical Strike Chance and Critical Strike Multiplier for each of your own recent Critical Strikes.

SHOW ME THE NUMBERS

SHOOOOW MEE

[elfin shale]

Holy Strike is gonna be ass if it doesnt have buffed Spiritual Aid

[hard cliff]

How hard is it to get that trigger wand tho is it just a bench craft then I craft a good wand at the same time ?

[elfin shale]

if it does it might be pretty solid

[dim sonnet]

What's the spectre change ?

[elfin shale]

Veiled orb rng iirc

[hard cliff]

I guess I could buy a wand with an open suffix

[hoary scarab]

spectres gone

[native abyss]

lock in

[hard cliff]

VEILED ORB

[elfin shale]

Bench craft is 8s

WAIT Lethe Shade with Skysunder cooks

well

as far as skysunder can cook

[hard cliff]

Talking to my supervisor at work and after I said I had a "lazy week" he was like "what, lazy ?!" cause people who work a lot hate people having time off

I was like "Yeah, I save all my energy to come to work (on the weekend) and LOCK IN" and that made him happy

[hoary scarab]

skysunder flicker strike

[hard cliff]

Getting good employment reviews by just spamming LOCK IN

[hoary scarab]

login

[dim sonnet]

They farm maps on their own now ?

[split pagoda]

@split maple u doing slayer still?

[dusky void]

Ok how does ralaketh and minimum charges with the changes to aul bloodline work? If i use ralaketh so i count as having max charges so the max aura effect is active but i actually have 0 do i count as having minimum charges aswell so the second effect works aswell?

[hard cliff]

eight seconds wtf

[native abyss]

HELLLLL YEAH

[elfin shale]

Yes

[dim sonnet]

Its crazy how ggg didn't nerf praw

[elfin shale]

i think im gonna level with Holy Hammers and swap to Holy Sweep

[split pagoda]

I wonder what droprate that new belt is gonna have

[hoary scarab]

its crazy how ggg didnt nerf mamba

[split pagoda]

looks so insane

[hard cliff]

I'm using the time before the new league starts to practice how I'll be spending my time in t16 maps

[dusky void]

Realy? Thar sounds STRONG as a power charge stacker and gravens secret getting 50% wrath and discipline is BIG

[elfin shale]

0.05% from uber while wearing angler's plait

[elfin shale]

i mean it's two ascendancy points

[dim sonnet]

I got lvl 100 last league by just playing that shit was broken

[dusky void]

Yeah have to pob it

[elfin shale]

And its % inc not % more so its kinda w/e imo

[hard cliff]

@elfin shale
I can't figure out a way to get spark to give me screenwide herald of ice shatters without a lot of jank that will take away top end of an already weak build 😩

[karmic gust]

spark shouldnt need heralds at all

[elfin shale]

God i hope PoB gets support for the new breach bloodline before the patch, i want to PoB some bullshit

[dusky void]

But im thinking playing some kind of storm brand build it got 26.5% more dmg and added dmg effectiveness is now 43% bigger thats A HUGE buff

[karmic gust]

the added dmg effectiveness doesnt rly matter

[hard cliff]

I just think the idea of enemies randomly exploding into ice statues while I just stand there spamming spark is funny

[dusky void]

Why added lighting dmg support or so can be solid

[sly basalt]

since tytykiller mentioned that bad players can play retal, whats a good build for it or a good content creator for it? it made me curious

[karmic gust]

sure but that barely makes a difference

the skill is stll way too 0dps

even with hose changes

[hard cliff]

if you guys have any other suggestions for good builds that can use herald of ice explosions let me know

[split pagoda]

retal glad main one for leaguestart ig

[leaden quiver]

Anyone got a pob for this banner support gem?

Looks difficult to get more than 5mil dps

[karmic gust]

also the DE was mostly just aligned with other rspells

[leaden quiver]

Without +supp gem scaling

[karmic gust]

so instead of added lightning being worse than it is for other spells

it will just be same

[leaden quiver]

And im not sure how that scales it as we dont have the gem

[split pagoda]

goratha might have a retal glad guide altho its probably outdated by a league or two

[gritty garnet]

probably because glad hasn't changed in like 2 leagues

[split maple]

yea, started doing some practice runs but it will prolly be a week before i hit boneshatter swap at current rate 😄 busy days

[gritty garnet]

retal eviscerate elementalist is also a thing; if you check first week ladder they're pretty much all the same

[split maple]

what you going for?

[dusky void]

But after the absoluteoverkill of pbrand stormbrand is the only cool brand left

[leaden quiver]

Armageddon brand is good

With brand recall

[karmic gust]

well the nerfed pbrand is still best brand

[leaden quiver]

Regular penance brand with ailments is good too

[karmic gust]

and its not remotely close either

[pliant hamlet]

but pretty mtx 🙁

[split pagoda]

fair im also likely to stay on bleed slams for a pretty long time if I go for slayer

[hard cliff]

Test the playstyle of retaliate before you commit to it tho

it's janky even on glad

[split pagoda]

im gonna do a slayer test run to see how it feels before deciding on slayer or jugg

[hard cliff]

Stupid strong tho

[karmic gust]

so like if you are not willing to play nerfed pbrarnd

[split pagoda]

i like slayer endgame options more than jugg

[karmic gust]

then other brands will be worse than that

[hard cliff]

That's so evil

[pliant hamlet]

You think? Storm brand should be dece week 1

[spice pecan]

normal penis brand looks okay now

[karmic gust]

no way that skill does no damage

[dusky void]

How? It deals half dmg and ramp is FAR slower

[spice pecan]

jung said that damage wasn't the issue and that the issue was clear, but i couldn't ever get storm brand to deal damage

[karmic gust]

just tells you how far away in power was penance from other brands

[karmic gust]

storm brand struggles with clear becaues its too 0dps to even kill mobs with the chains lul

[spark bramble]

when does mirage drop

[karmic gust]

the skill actually has pretty good clear mechanics

if you get chains on it

[heady cliff]

clear was omegabuffed though

[karmic gust]

but its too shit

[spice pecan]

i wonder if indecision with chain would be an option

after the buff

[heady cliff]

like x2 damage

[pliant hamlet]

62% more damage for clear

[whole bluff]

wait what the actual fuck did they do to normal penance brand

[pliant hamlet]

idk what the numbers look like for single target

[whole bluff]

they buffed it by a lot and removed 30% less?

for ailments

[dusky void]

In pob it was at max ramp which takes time only 2 to maximum 3x higher than stormbrand stormbrand 30% stronger pbrand half as strong slower ramp now they have similar dmg

[split maple]

juggie kinda feels like whole lot of nothing between leaguestart and strstack

like rly i cannto see any good midgame options

[spice pecan]

boneshitter for delve might be decent midgame

[pliant hamlet]

62% more damage for clear, 54% more damage for single target

[split pagoda]

yeah exactly

[opaque wing]

They made it the nuclear ignite machine

[karmic gust]

where are you getting 54% moire damage from

[pliant hamlet]

am I wrong?

[karmic gust]

yes

[split maple]

well yea between boneshatter and strstack 😄 consider that earlier

[pliant hamlet]

what am i getting wrong?

what's the math

[karmic gust]

the DE buff doesnt matter

doesntdo anything

[dusky void]

No the more dmg is far lower now so ailment dmg is still the same

[karmic gust]

or well for most setups it does nothing

[split pagoda]

before u could go echoes and a pretty giga overexert setup on boneshatter jugg but the autoexert/overexert nerf hurts that alot

so im not interested in staying on bonezone for that long if I play it

[spice pecan]

especially since you still have to be able to map to sustain sulphite anyway

[pliant hamlet]

I wasn't looking at the DE buff, I was looking at the base damage buff

277 -> 449

[dusky void]

Base dmg is 26.5% higher

[opaque wing]

"Penance Brand: Now deals 10% more Damage at all gem levels. Now has an Effectiveness of Added Damage of 520-630% at gem levels 1-20 (previously 470-570%). No longer has 30% less Damage with Ailments. Quality now provides Deals +0-15% more Damage with Hits against Branded Enemy (previously +0-10%)."

Where did they lower the damage?

[split pagoda]

slayer just has more options to reroll into

[split maple]

just do boneshatter jugger -> flicker strike bers -> strstack prog

[pliant hamlet]

I feel braindead, where is that number from?

[split maple]

entire marauder complex feels kinda fucky until strstack rn

[karmic gust]

its 27% more damage

[pliant hamlet]

424?

[split maple]

some new unique making endur stack or smh relevant trust

[karmic gust]

(150 + 449) / 2 * 1.8
539.1

(92 + 277) / 2 * 2.3
424.34999999999997

new at top

[hard cliff]

I am considering KF totems someone said Palsteron was cooking some

[karmic gust]

old at botom

[pliant hamlet]

Oh assuming the enemy is branded, fair

[karmic gust]

well yes

[dusky void]

Oh you mean normal pbrand

[pliant hamlet]

I was only looking at the base damage

[cosmic raptor]

This is why I don't do my own builds like wtf is this Einstein

[hard cliff]

https://youtu.be/fFky2k_l8BU

[leaden quiver]

Endu stack is very strong

[spice pecan]

is poison normal pbrand on the menu after they removed the less dmg with ailments now

[leaden quiver]

Transcendence type beat

[dusky void]

They lowerd the dmg multi against branded

130 to 80

[cosmic raptor]

Paladin?

[pliant hamlet]

yeah, they were talking about clear tho

[hard cliff]

From PHRECIA league

[pliant hamlet]

so I still had those numbers in my calc

[ocean folio]

ignite looks good. poison not so great i think

[opaque wing]

Technically yes, but I feel like you want something with a larger hitrate rather than big hits for poison, even more so in a world where low tolerance was just hit

[leaden quiver]

Anyone found a cool unique for dextral/sinistral cata?

[dusky void]

Clear is irrelevant if you struggle with dmg during clear than you do smth wrong

[leaden quiver]

Or do those not work on uniques

Idr

[pliant hamlet]

storm brand did struggle with clear

[split maple]

uniques dont have prefix/suffix, no?

[strong totem]

Assassin poison pp

[dusky void]

Explode?

[pliant hamlet]

why aren't you playing pbrand then

[spice pecan]

ignite pbrand chieftain

[cosmic raptor]

That build looks fun but i guess won't work without phrecia

[split maple]

kfusili is pretty legit Pira, its kinda surprising it didnt get nerfed

[hard cliff]

It's above my capacity but I've seen people talking about it on like 3 classes so far and he said he wants to make a guide for it

[split maple]

idk what ascend for it tho, prolly warden?

[karmic gust]

>>> (231 + 347) / 2 * (1 + (0.2 * 19)) * 1.15
1595.2800000000002
>>>

penance

(150 + 449) / 2 * 1.8 / 0.5
1078.2

storm brand

[pliant hamlet]

If your solution to clear is "explode", your build better be able to compete with pbrand lol

[karmic gust]

storm brand below

[hard cliff]

I've seen people mention champ,warden ,heiro and guardian lol

[strong totem]

The skill converts 50% dmg to lightning still

[leaden quiver]

Warden with new belt

[cosmic raptor]

I'll follow him and see

[karmic gust]

so nerfed dissipation is still 50% more damage

than storm brand

[split maple]

hiero surely goes kboc

[pliant hamlet]

that's kinda hillarious

[split maple]

not kfusili

[hard cliff]

I dunno the differences tbh

Kboc explodes aand kfusi is the one you need less duration for to pew pew ?

[pliant hamlet]

kfus totems didn't get hit

probably still good

[spice pecan]

ballista totems did get hit

[split pagoda]

Did kboc get nerfed at all?

[spice pecan]

0.35 -> 0.5 placement time

[hard cliff]

yeah they got a place speed change but I can handle jank

[karmic gust]

yea as i said just tells you how unbelievably dogshit storm brand is/was

[native token]

My starter

[leaden quiver]

Buffed on hiero

[karmic gust]

even if they nerf penance by 50% and buff sb by 27% penance still 50% more damage xd

[leaden quiver]

If u do that

[cosmic raptor]

Poeguy's worst nightmare

[split pagoda]

If not I might do kboc hiero as 2nd build or something to have a good mapper

[cosmic raptor]

[split pagoda]

after I get whispers

[pliant hamlet]

before even considering scaling, which pbrand is so much better at lol

[karmic gust]

yea because phys skill

[split maple]

Refraction bugfixed to not work with it anymore, so either support less for fork or have to use that New currency to get fork on gem itself

[pliant hamlet]

I want storm brand to be good

[native token]

It's op for league start too

[split pagoda]

ah fair enough

[high magnet]

you guys think zerker or inquis is better for holy hammers?

[hard cliff]

me too

[strong totem]

When they removed the brand recall effect from storm brand, it became garbage

[split maple]

Still very legit especially if swaping to it with gear and not legstarting

[dusky void]

yeah clearly?????

[karmic gust]

same sb is one of my fav skills, loved to play it with indigon

but not gonna pretend its good now

[split pagoda]

i know its strong early too but im on hc and gonna be bossing focused for leaguestart

just gonna do the trusty bleedzone

[karmic gust]

i mean i posted the exact new numbers

[split pagoda]

that i have like 4 practice runs to 4stone and beyond on in the last month xD

[karmic gust]

they are correct

[dusky void]

whats wrong about my numbers?

[karmic gust]

no clue, are you missing qual or something

[leaden quiver]

Domblow manions then corr bannerman

[gritty epoch]

pre nerf/buff

[split maple]

Did you try slaping nerfs to earthshatter into pob? Ik it's fucked Just didn't bother to math it out myself

[karmic gust]

#1┃general message but see here

[leaden quiver]

That supp is insNe

[dusky void]

both level 20 both 20 qual compltlty naked char no skill points only skill gems and config

[karmic gust]

thats straight from the gem accounting for hitrate etc

[grizzled lily]

CONSECRATED PATH OF ENDURANCE JUGG WHAT AB THIS ONE

[spice pecan]

cpoe jugg is alright

[leaden quiver]

Bad for early

[grizzled lily]

15 ENDURANCE CHARGES

full clear aoe

[grizzled lily]

EXACTLY

BIG AOE

[leaden quiver]

Just play holy hammer league stadt

[karmic gust]

wait what about enemy armour :d

[leaden quiver]

Holy strike looks cool ngl

[grizzled lily]

no its shit

[karmic gust]

or just set 100% of phys converted to lightning

[grizzled lily]

holy hammer stats are doodoo

[karmic gust]

in the pob

[split pagoda]

Not extensively but from what I looked at it seems just fine, you just have to selfcast another warcry

[leaden quiver]

How do you know that

[karmic gust]

could be some issue there

[leaden quiver]

Lmao

[karmic gust]

in your example one

[grizzled lily]

website

has them

if the skill doesnt shotgun its doodoo

[split maple]

So jank + overexert nerf mainly

[karmic gust]

i mean we can see edges overlapping very clearly

in the vid we got

should be 660% DE baseline

[grizzled lily]

u dont hit the edges tho

[leaden quiver]

440 dmg and 85% as

[karmic gust]

and up to 660% DE x 3 with the 2 excxtra cascades from hitting enemies

[leaden quiver]

And then overlaps

Looks solid af

And huge aoe

[native abyss]

are brands fricked?

[karmic gust]

you can hit ground

[dusky void]

ok true so now pbrand is 32% more dmg than stormbrand BUT you dont need to convert phys so its easier to scale

[grizzled lily]

i dont think

[karmic gust]

and aim your skill

[split pagoda]

yeah and the effectiveness nerf on the gem. It adds up but its still strong. enough of a nerf to where id play bleed slams instead personally

[grizzled lily]

its good

[split maple]

Idk db, last time you counted overlaps krain got nerfed

[leaden quiver]

Is divine blast any good btw?

[rose vault]

What weap do you use woth holy hammer tho

[leaden quiver]

Staff or mace

[karmic gust]

it being phys skill is benefit not downside in majority of scenarios

[leaden quiver]

Staves are op early

60/60 block easily achievable

[karmic gust]

well my overlaps were still right, i was saying 3 they were 3

[rose vault]

Yah i k but im thinking about fun unique optiond haha

[karmic gust]

they just made the skill unusable with 3 overlaps

not my fault

[leaden quiver]

Brain rattler for early

[karmic gust]

xd

[leaden quiver]

Looks cool

[split pagoda]

like I need to do the test run for it but bleed sunder into bleed ground slam should feel really good overall

[rose vault]

Tremor rod

[gritty garnet]

varunastra obviously

[leaden quiver]

Isnt holy sweep very strong though

[dusky void]

if you can get alot of phys as extra but if you want to scale diffrent getting 50% conversion sometimes is VERY hard so its based on the type of build you play

[split pagoda]

alot of people started that last league and its practically unnerfed

[leaden quiver]

Its like 700 dmg eff

Or 800

[split pagoda]

+5% reservation is all

[frigid wedge]

i think it works

[ancient sorrel]

Whats the point of spell echo being usable on oos?

[dusky void]

so it works on trans orb

[karmic gust]

i think potentional 1980% DE single hit slam with good clear sounds pretty good at least

and even if you did not wanted to bother with writhing jar

660% DE with good clear is also decent

[spice pecan]

i want to play this

[frigid wedge]

nice

[ancient sorrel]

Care to detail?

[frigid wedge]

its not done

[spice pecan]

is this the multi mirror mfa with the lightning warp helm

[cobalt pier]

So, what is the tldr from the patch notes?

[dusky void]

the new trans orb of storms thats kinda a hybrid between lighting warp and orb of storms

[karmic gust]

well on most builds its just glove or mastery right, not super hard

[delicate ether]

pob plizzzzzzzzz

insane

[karmic gust]

or at least penance builds def never struggled with that

isnt the new oos just old oos i did not rly read it

but thats what i assumed

actually nah its teleporting

[leaden quiver]

Divine blast has in built seething fury, dang

Need to pob it

[frigid wedge]

no this is a diff build, not doing mfa bc no point with so many nerfs

[ancient sorrel]

Didnt read the gem like this, guess ill have to see it in action

[karmic gust]

it looks like same numbers as shield crush

but with extra crit

so already better :d

[past rain]

my RF will be biggggggggg

[karmic gust]

or at least very similar numbers

[frigid wedge]

mythik do you happen to have a synth phys bow on standard

[onyx adder]

it hops with you so u dont need to 2 button LC all the time

[dusky void]

yeah if you can free up gloves or have enough points to waste on the mastery yes but not all builds have that luxury if you buid stormbrand exactly like pbrand yes its far worse if you build it diffrently it can beat pbrand

[grizzled lily]

you might be right but i dont really think its gonna synergyze good or idk, i suppose just go full phys , somehow 100% lightning conversion or smth but still from what ive seen, playing minions might be the move now, cause its legit made in tandem, every support and new minion skill is a poe2 special, the DRUID special

[leaden quiver]

Crit, but less damage on hit itself

[karmic gust]

yea i guess thats nice then

[cosmic raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/quite-big-thats-gif-18363059

[grizzled lily]

they all work together and theyre op

[leaden quiver]

BUT u convert

[karmic gust]

its faster

its very close

the damage

[leaden quiver]

Oh so its op then

We play templar holyyyy shit

[karmic gust]

yea i think its just stragith up upgrade

from shield crush

[leaden quiver]

Templar prolly a bad class for it thogh, funnily

[karmic gust]

just needs a bit of less duration

to not be awkward

[strong totem]

I got pizza with an elderly neighbor yesterday and he legit pulled out one of these to measure the pizza

[leaden quiver]

Zerker then

And we chilling

[karmic gust]

elementalist

[leaden quiver]

Or gladrunastra

As with shield crush

[karmic gust]

oh that sounds cute

[heady cliff]

mementalist

[leaden quiver]

Yeah its very nice

[karmic gust]

also gives aoe

[leaden quiver]

You get instant leech

More aoe

More crit

[gritty epoch]

does astral projector overwrite this?

[leaden quiver]

Could you calc the crit amount on emperors vigilance + divine blast?

Just plug into pob

[karmic gust]

i would assume no

[gritty epoch]

coz this has higher DE and damage

[leaden quiver]

Im unavailable now

[strong totem]

Poor eles. Can't troll themselves with golem buff effect anymore

[leaden quiver]

Just add in 40 qual emperors vigilance

And seething set to 0.25 instead of 0.15

[karmic gust]

uh do you have screenshot on the gem i dont have it on hadn

alright i can do tht

[hoary scarab]

multiple fan the flames dont increase the ignite prolif radius right?

[leaden quiver]

I want to see the numba

[leaden quiver]

No

[hoary scarab]

hm, is fan the flames a viable ignite prolif?

[frigid wedge]

hmmmm

[spice pecan]

yes

but there's eldritch glove implicit

[karmic gust]

18% base crit

nice i guess

[hoary scarab]

oh right

[leaden quiver]

Holy

Thats huge

[hard cliff]

`I don't understand something

[frigid wedge]

goddammit

[leaden quiver]

And you get conversion

And just need to grab some reduced dura

[icy zinc]

Im reading rn

[leaden quiver]

@icy zinc we might be divine blasting

Shield skill

Instead of domblow

The numbers are huge lol

[hard cliff]

If you run Kinetic Fusilade Ballista Totem but you have to get reduced duration to make KF work right

Woudln't your totem have very low lifetime also ?

[icy zinc]

Woah uly

[karmic gust]

swift affliction doesnt rly scale with levels its just flat 25% so can do that with the new support gems

[icy zinc]

I thought this is other chet

Time to theory

[karmic gust]

acrually

lvl 1 less durtion is still 50% less

so probsb better xd

40% less

[icy zinc]

imbued gems so good

[leaden quiver]

Less dura is what u want

50% less at 20 qual

[leaden quiver]

And more damage

Yeah that sounds mint

[past rain]

the belt rolls 1 offesnive and 1 defense? holy fk

[leaden quiver]

And shield skills were already good for lesguestart

[past rain]

50% increased Action Speed
80% increased Projectile Speed
+
+50% to all Elemental Resistances
+10% to all maximum Resistances

insane

[tight plinth]

we already had this talk

[leaden quiver]

Divine blast

Biden blast boom

[strong totem]

Can't wait to have a divine shrine belt

[karmic gust]

yea if you get accel and res its just better than magebloo

[heady cliff]

debatable

[karmic gust]

not rly with the 3rd ring asc on top

[icy zinc]

acceleration shrine is insane

[simple stag]

oh god i just realized how many imbued gems im going to need after the main skill...........

[icy zinc]

like

[split pagoda]

mageblood? more like magepoo after this patch

[icy zinc]

might be better than diamond i guess

[leaden quiver]

I wanna see the numbers on that retal skill with manions

[leaden quiver]

Defo

U become very fast

[heady cliff]

i welcome cheap megabluds on the market anyway

[leaden quiver]

No bad feeling about lack of qs

[heady cliff]

you can keep your shrines

[icy zinc]

and fast is good

bzz

have headhunter through inspired learning

mageblood through shrines

raider in boots, pathfinder in gloves

[karmic gust]

they deleted the gloves btw

sadge

[icy zinc]

WTF

[cobalt pier]

true

[karmic gust]

right?

buffed binos then deleted foulborn embalmers

[strong totem]

Elementalist in the sheets. Jugg in the streets

[karmic gust]

so ppl are forced to binos

[icy zinc]

foulborn emalmber

o

[karmic gust]

smh my head

[icy zinc]

i wasnt up to the news ig

[gritty epoch]

is there a brand support gem in 3.28 that leave explosion on brand recall or im misremembering? cant seem to find it in poedb

[icy zinc]

heard widowhail is kill

[strong totem]

Bloodseeker has life reservation efficiency now

[past rain]

and u take bloodline for 3rd ring

insaneeeeeeeeeeeee

[icy zinc]

bloodseeker glove?

[karmic gust]

yea

[past rain]

[icy zinc]

rly?

i mean its kinda good for bloodthirst n petrified blood

[leaden quiver]

Yeah

[strong totem]

3 rings? When can we wield 3 weapons?

[leaden quiver]

Ennervating grasp

[karmic gust]

bloodthirst is garbanzo still sadly

[karmic gust]

your body is 3rd weapon

smh

[leaden quiver]

Why use bloodthirst if grey wind is in the game

[tight plinth]

thats offensive to garbanzo

[leaden quiver]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frigid wedge]

i have just realised i needed ele dps

[karmic gust]

yea its so funny

that grey wind has 12%

and bloodthurst is 2

xd

[strong totem]

Okay, imagine a headbutt helmet

[leaden quiver]

Ill pob divine blast tomorrow

Should be huge

[normal arch]

Hey guys what is the state of armor / es hybrid at the moment? Seems like the logical choice for the paladin skills?

[tight plinth]

i want boots that can kick

[gritty epoch]

thanks

[dusky void]

do you think herald stacking storm burst could be a good build aswell? storm burst got slightly better for clear and if its supported by heralds and explodes it should have some solid clear and single target

[icy zinc]

why does bloodseeker glove even have faster leech rate stuff

if it got instant

[heady cliff]

what if i dont play any meme skills and just go meta exsang/reap mines instead?

[icy zinc]

hmmge

[karmic gust]

well storm burst also needs duration scaling so idk how hard is that to fit in herald stack

[icy zinc]

reap mines cooked

[strong totem]

Need horns on my hat

[gritty epoch]

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/S3Qj5zA.png

Are people playing a league start build for two days ?

[icy zinc]

you shall be playing frostblink mines in bronns lithe

[strong totem]

30 weapons

[icy zinc]

or whatever this new transfigured shocknova is with mines too

[proud gorge]

Hmm, I wonder how the Shockwave Totems of Authority will work with Astral Projector. Astral Projector gives "Nova Spells cast at the targeted location instead of you", but Shockwave Totem of Authority apparently makes the totems cast their shockwave on your location instead of their own, making it sort of a weird Nova?

and apparently it does more damage than regular Shockwave Totem

I have to assume that they designed it in such a way that it doesn't just work with Astral Projector

since otherwise there'd be no point to regular Shockwave Totem

[tight plinth]

wont work i reckon, it works with novas that comes from the caster

[spice pecan]

the totems target you

so astral projector is redundant

at least that's how it reads to me

[split pagoda]

the more I think about it the more im realizing I aint going for early mageblood this league 😂

[proud gorge]

Astral Projector makes it target enemies instead, so if it were still a nova Astral Projector would overwrite and let it target enemies. But most likely it's just not a Nova

since the totem isn't casting in a nova around itself

[split pagoda]

res + accel belt, +1 ring, tincture + 4 writhing jar slayer

[proud gorge]

but casting as a targetted spell, which makes it not a nova

[split pagoda]

holy fuck

[hexed mountain]

just seen someone go wilma's with holy strike to get omega attack speed

[spice pecan]

the targeted location is you, i believe

[strong totem]

New belt drops from new boss

[tight plinth]

this guy might be cooking

[strong totem]

So.. maybe easier to get than magenlood

[spice pecan]

but i dunno, it could be weird

[real quartz]

Am I able to recomb spell damage onto a kinetic wand?

[icy zinc]

wilmer

[spice pecan]

yes, or use spell damage essence

[hexed mountain]

the main issue is we have no confirmation it can be divined between shrines like a shako

[icy zinc]

holy hammer is a slam so you can do earthbreaker totem boots

[proud gorge]

I don't think Shockwave Totem targets you, I think it just casts on you, but who knows

[icy zinc]

go ham bro

[proud gorge]

we have no info on the actual gem

[karmic gust]

doenst tose minions just work like AW

[proud gorge]

just the mini blurb from the patch notes

[karmic gust]

so what is even wilmas doing there

[icy zinc]

can also share power charges to totems

[proud gorge]

but yeah, most likely it won't work

[strong totem]

I hope it drops as is, and no divines work. That's just me respecting loot

[icy zinc]

just spam some skill with pcoc

[proud gorge]

since otherwise it'd be broken

[nova lion]

paladin? O_o wasn't that one of those phrecia ascendancies? then event ended some time ago, no such class in the base game anymore...
until you meant smth related to poe2 then try one of its channels...

[hexed mountain]

yeah if the minions just attack with you and have no inbuilt CD wilma will be the go to scaling

[tight plinth]

they hit when you hit

[spice pecan]

they mean the new holy skills

[hexed mountain]

freezing shrine

[tight plinth]

so if you got giga aps, they also have giga aps

[crimson hearth]

how do i add crusader influence to a shield

[strong totem]

The pain. Better be greater freezing like the guardian asc gets

[spice pecan]

crusader exalted orb

[hexed mountain]

wilma allows you to double tap into attack speed with a lot of stuff for the armaments so we'll see

[karmic gust]

hmm will that actually work tho wont they be limited by either their attack speed or like relic cd

[onyx adder]

theyre minions, they will have their own attack speed

[tight plinth]

that we dont know

[karmic gust]

focused ballista works like the first one

for example

[fierce rock]

so now that int/acc stacker is dead, is str stack just the default end-game stacker build now?

[onyx adder]

but will also attack with u

yea

[hexed mountain]

relic is a spell they cast which has a CD we dont know if they're not just attacking

[split pagoda]

some guy on reddit claimed it cant be divined

[dark sequoia]

Are there any good ways to add damage to a trash base damage weapon?

[onyx adder]

we all got jebaited by focus ballista

fool me once, shame on me

[proud gorge]

yeah, thus far we have no real info on how fast the armaments can attack, or if they're attack speed capped

[fierce rock]

i trust some guy

[onyx adder]

or something

[hexed mountain]

ignore the naysayers , its D E X time

[split pagoda]

but not exactly a good source apparently he had gotten it from octavian

[fierce rock]

i'm going to join the naysayers

[tight plinth]

i got it straight from mark

[strong totem]

You can't get fooled again

[crimson hearth]

i hav question

[proud gorge]

there's no confirmation, but most likely it can't be divined since that'd make it too powerful

[onyx adder]

yea that

[split pagoda]

i think it makes most sense it cant be divined yeah

[tight plinth]

i hav answer

[proud gorge]

most likely each shrine mod is its own mod, and it just has a lot of "variants"

[hybrid harness]

is accel shrine multiplicative? I know it says 50% incr but that doesnt seem better than other shrines in that case

[high magnet]

hey guys do we know what level we unlock holy hammers at?

[karmic gust]

str stack was basically untouched right

and it was strong before

sooo

yea

[fierce rock]

afaik yeah

[crimson hearth]

https://pobb.in/yIU4jF7lVyln i use venarius amu, if i crusader orb my shield and make my boots eldrich would the venarius buff apply still or not

[proud gorge]

accel shrine is Action Speed, that's multiplicative with pretty much every other source of speed

other than more action speed

[hardy heron]

Multiplicitive with attk/cast/move speed, not other action speed buffs

[split pagoda]

its action speed so yeah its multiplicative, only additive with other sources of action speed

[nova lion]

ok, I won't switch to "bido-mode" and won't argue that smth like that doesn't exists 😈 I guess that's how those things are called by the community now?

[karmic gust]

so dont play accel shrine on deadeye otherwise you are good

[spice pecan]

too tired to argue semantics

[hybrid harness]

I think echo looks better but no ms I guess, and then no ms flask either so slow asf kek

[night bone]

Why did they change templar's starting support gem to hallow support? He doesn't have any way to make minions on twilight strand, right? So hallow support does literally nothing but increase the mana cost, right?

[karmic gust]

yea accel mostly solves your missing ms from no qs

thast why its generically best one imo

[hexed mountain]

no reason to play deadeye with the belt is there , you're just grabbing warden

[karmic gust]

also echoing can be annoying as shit

to play with

[hardy heron]

Keep in mind that this isn't "deadeye doesn't benefit from accel shrine", this is "deadeye now gets to always crit instead"

[hexed mountain]

warden will cap your crit with tincture since you go accel shrine not diamond

[nova lion]

no need, just asked if that's how people call those skills now?

[split pagoda]

yeah im not using perma echo shrine

just aint happening lol

[spice pecan]

no, it isn't

[night bone]

*flame dashes twice into awakener's desolation"

[hexed mountain]

echo shrine is good if you have your dash triggered it wont echo it right

warpslinger saves the day once again

[strong totem]

Acceleration shrine + deadeye + foulborn seven league

[tight plinth]

just move fast and kill everything so you dont need moveskills

[sage falcon]

for the most least value lol

[tight plinth]

we throwing hands i see

[reef pewter]

is blight invig strat dead now

[hybrid harness]

gloom + massive shrine possible? p sexy for non-chief rf

[karmic gust]

brandsurge at home

[frigid wedge]

is there a legacy mana cost jewel

[reef pewter]

cuz it was too op i hope these buffs kill it ^

[night bone]

Why did they change templar's starting support gem to hallow support? He doesn't have any way to make minions on twilight strand, right? So hallow support does literally nothing but increase the mana cost, right?

[sage falcon]

replica conqueror's efficiency?

[hardy heron]

Meh. Still need some crit chance from other sources to do this

[tight plinth]

emperors jewel thing

[hybrid harness]

wonder how rare that belt will be anyway

[karmic gust]

yea who knows

[hexed mountain]

its like 500% crit tho

[tight plinth]

oh its conqueror mb

[frigid wedge]

cheers

FOCK]

[tight plinth]

lmao

[night bone]

kekw

you could try watcher's eye clarity

[haughty elbow]

Also changed starting gem to holy strike

[hardy heron]

Still not 100% with that alone

[hexed mountain]

lowkey holy strike phantasm support minion damage should go HARD for act 1

[icy zinc]

watchers eyes

[night bone]

oh, i forgot those count as minons

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[slim island]

should i play spectres or warden

[nova lion]

flicker bow

[icy zinc]

time to insert maps in the atlas

[tight plinth]

dark monarch might double the armaments

[frigid wedge]

it can go faster btw

[onyx adder]

oi how do u solve wither on builds that dont hit quickly

[timber wyvern]

Chat which supporter pack is better

[onyx adder]

and cant get any help from ascendancy

[icy zinc]

if it was added xd

[hexed mountain]

withering step + qual

[frigid wedge]

faster but worse dps

is easy

[onyx adder]

dont say withering step its embarrassing

[karmic gust]

can you get ashes? :d

[onyx adder]

shit too slow

[karmic gust]

lmao

[hexed mountain]

thats one of the reasons mamba uses ashes and withering step

you can reach 14/15 wither from it

[tight plinth]

i played that build some time ago yep, before they put cd on wintry blast

[onyx adder]

not as slow as mamba

but lets say

5 hits per second

[karmic gust]

you can do arcanist crema withering touch

or well

not withering touch

[onyx adder]

withering touch is attack only right

[karmic gust]

but wither on hit

[frigid wedge]

fair, tryna figure out my setup pre start

[onyx adder]

yea u need wither on hit

mm maybe i look at something like that

[karmic gust]

oshabi gloves

[sage falcon]

wither spell totems (i remember when that was a thing people did)

[hexed mountain]

wither on hit with unleash cascade BF of volleys

[icy zinc]

that ghost got what was coming for it

[karmic gust]

also what skill

because self cast wither is somewhat nice

[icy zinc]

i hope the rogues from new scarab is tough

[onyx adder]

im looking at the buffs to puriflame of revelations and to lycia

[karmic gust]

unironically

ah nvm then

[hexed mountain]

dont purif flame builds all use mines?

[karmic gust]

for minions self cast wither is nice tho :d

[onyx adder]

and i note that poison puriflame is one of the only setups in the game that gets to use the three non shit heralds

and have them actually be useful

[karmic gust]

hey BV can do that too smh

[tight plinth]

new shocknova poison

[hexed mountain]

BF gaming

if greater cascade is easier to get i'm definitely rolling a BF build later

[onyx adder]

puriflame got cast speed buffs, mines relatively unexciting

[onyx adder]

what are u doing lul, full fire convert poison bv

[tight plinth]

whats a good indoor map thats not annoying to run thats not toxic sewer

[icy zinc]

blade vortex wont see a use now that elementalist is in the second tier

[hexed mountain]

isnt purif flame aoe kinda cringe tho like a targeted zone and not much around

[karmic gust]

nah just random phys as extra sources

[tight plinth]

i need walls to bounce projectiles on

[karmic gust]

ele weakness toh hoa

[onyx adder]

yea its not great, the damage is pretty absurd tho

[hexed mountain]

silo if you want to DP

[frigid wedge]

so like

i need actual dps

[tight plinth]

yeah thats the one to beat atm, im asking in case i forgot another good one

[frigid wedge]

which i think requires hatred watcher

[slim island]

living lightning guardian might have potential

[tight plinth]

oh yeah defiled is pretty good

[frigid wedge]

so ig my cost is manifold reliant

[hexed mountain]

there's the toxic sewer copy with doedre as boss

[icy swan]

are there new skills ?

[tight plinth]

why isnt that popular?

[icy zinc]

defiled map not popular?

well its kinda empty

[karmic gust]

yea was just trying to think of its name :d

waste pool?

[hexed mountain]

yeah

[tight plinth]

wait which map? the doedre map i know is the one where you run through a corridor with stones that have curses

[karmic gust]

this one

[icy zinc]

i find waste pool much worse than toxic sewers

but they share same walls so its good for chaining off as deadeye

[hexed mountain]

well doedre is in a diff zone and needs to be activated

[tight plinth]

silo still leading

🤔

[hexed mountain]

so yeah its a lot worse than the spider

[karmic gust]

do you just skip boss on silo

because i would still rather doedre than silo boss :d

[tight plinth]

yeah you do dp on silo

[hexed mountain]

i mean if he does silo he goes dp

[tight plinth]

then dip when all other bosses are dead

[icy zinc]

oh right you can make doedre fly away then kill the bosses

unreliable ig

silo is better

[tight plinth]

man, why they remove t17, those are all wall heavy maps 😭

[hardy heron]

Layouts are still the same, no? The mods and mechanics have changed, but I don't think the tileset has

[stoic horizon]

you have nightmare maps which will prob have same layouts

[icy zinc]

t17 removed

[hexed mountain]

btw ubers requiring just 4 fragments means their price go up (per fragment) no ? since the uber price is based on expected loot divided by 5 (now 4)

might see some 150c reality frags

[icy zinc]

yeah eater frags are 140c will be 175c now

[stoic horizon]

depends how much we can farm nightmare maps and how worth are they to farm, although the latter will regulate itself based on frag price

[hexed mountain]

boss rushing nightmare maps probably will be super strong

[icy zinc]

if it will feel easy just add titanic scarab to the nightmare maps

[hexed mountain]

if the frags are close to one div i woudlnt even clear the map tbh

[icy zinc]

fun for the whole family

[kindred silo]

u would just do the deli farm

[hexed mountain]

get a bosser 2 min the nightmare maps gets 100-150c value per 2 mins

[kindred silo]

especially now that 84 clusters dont drop from mappers

[stoic horizon]

nightmare maps are lvl 83

[icy zinc]

overall item modifier stuff are less effective now

[kindred silo]

oh

[icy zinc]

from kingsmarch or gambling or genesis tree

[cosmic raptor]

Grok is this true

[stoic horizon]

why were 84 clusters good btw?

[hexed mountain]

35% inc effect mod

[stoic horizon]

ah

[tough cove]

84 can rolle 35% effect

[icy zinc]

and tier 1 mods

[cosmic raptor]

I hate clusters

[sleek ocean]

84 clusters will be expensive

[cosmic raptor]

🥲

[frigid wedge]

how does 5 to 1 recipe work

[livid quarry]

ppl keep talking bout new belt. ggg going to nerf before start

[cosmic raptor]

Only good belt is mageblood

[frigid wedge]

i have 4 mirrored split ones and 1 just split but 2 are diff item level

what thing bricks the recipe

[tough cove]

foulborn headhunter is also s tier

[cosmic raptor]

I'm tired of headhunter after poe2

[icy zinc]

you could as well wear the maven belt

[sleek ocean]

belt slot can have insane power cos of the options, its not poe2

[tough cove]

half my builds end up using coil anywho

[frigid wedge]

?

[icy zinc]

:>

[cosmic raptor]

[icy zinc]

take the fertile catalyst

[frigid wedge]

where base

[normal hedge]

do they have the same name?

[icy zinc]

i should search for 20% life stuff to sell em for catalyst in future

[frigid wedge]

theyre manifold rings

[icy zinc]

altho prismatic is more expensive

[frigid wedge]

i dont get what isnt workign here

is it ivl

[opal ingot]

she meant the name of the ring, not the base

[normal hedge]

That has absolutely nothing with what i asked

[icy zinc]

one is not like the other probably

[frigid wedge]

2 of them have same rare name?

[opal ingot]

like you have 2 "star destroyer" manifolds

[icy swan]

any new skills ?

[normal hedge]

must be different names

[opal ingot]

yes

[normal hedge]

spirit knot

[opal ingot]

2 spirit knots

[normal hedge]

there you go

[frigid wedge]

is that a genuine issue

wtaf

[normal hedge]

its the chance recipe iirc?

[hexed mountain]

yeah

[normal hedge]

it takes priority for some reason

[frigid wedge]

shits dumb af

[normal hedge]

yes

i had to trade one with sage

to be able to 5:1 them

💀

[opal ingot]

now youcan flip dusk rings

because everyone and their mothers will play kf

[golden moat]

whens this pet being added to poe 1 bruh

[opal ingot]

damn it man am i gonna play slayer

[opal ingot]

heat death of the universe

[stoic horizon]

slayeeeeeerrrrrrrr

[opal ingot]

or when ram prices are down

[normal hedge]

i love slayer

but i dont feel like playing melee ever again

[opal ingot]

yeah this is the league of screen clears

[stoic horizon]

bow slayer login

[normal hedge]

thats the build i was farming bugged alva

[opal ingot]

did u get a mirror or lock from bugged alva @normal hedge

[fierce rock]

i feel like if you're not playing a giga blaster screen clearing chad build this league, you're not gonna make it

[normal hedge]

a mirror and two t0s

but bad ones

[frigid wedge]

not even for good stuff

[sleek ocean]

the new ascension hasnt been shown right?

[frigid wedge]

literally just ened costs

[stoic horizon]

nop

[golden moat]

lies

[stoic horizon]

what if hes right

and it happens on launch day

[golden moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-mario-movie-dead-dies-the-end-gif-7978259712432623908

[icy zinc]

diesfrom

[stoic horizon]

ligma

[normal hedge]

thats messiah's pob?

[opal ingot]

nah some warden frost blades pob

[stoic horizon]

5k chaos max hit holy tank

not to mention phys

[normal hedge]

thats above average for a warden

[opal ingot]

[normal hedge]

whats the catch