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man, it'd be nice if we could just capture regular harvest beasts if we have einhar and harvest in one map >.<
just synth it once and be done with it since you're upgrading to shrine belt anyway
powercreeep mageblood sure as hell wasnt on my bingo card
a welcome change 
i usualy use darkeness enthroned anwyas
30div mageblood week one pog
also they buffed maven belts, idk if anyone cares tho
wait what
mb 100d first week min usualy mmore
we're actually saying the shrine belt is better than MB?
yeah 120 int with catalyst on belt is kinda nice
i like those belts would be neat if they were more useable
only one i've ever used was olesya's on bleed bow
if it rolls 100% better if it doesnt its still better for a bunch of builds
if it works how everyone thinks it does, yes
shame olesya is crap for dex stack builds
Brutality charges are giga damage
yea i used olesya before but i havent touched it in ages
50% action speed +10 max res is objectively better than mageblood
Mine throwing speed + Affix catalyst
easeist way is buy a bunch of valdo/keys to get mb first week
self chill also being kinda garbage now with how competetive the slots are
makes olesya less interesting too
mageblood offers curse+ele ailment immunity which is nice
and you can get two other giga suffixes too
accel shrine alone would be insane actually yeah
and ralakesh nerfs makes brutal charge one also less interesting
combine it with the gull, instant capped max all res lmao
yeah but its not matching 75 action speed with gull
and gravens wa sjust never good
"given the new competition for mageblood introduced in Path of Exile Mirage, we have decided to remove it from the core drop pool. It is now an ultra rare drop from <insert your most hated content here>"
Yea ralakesh nerf kinda killed the belts
those arent hard to mitigate 1 abyss jewel +boot suffix and curses you can just overcap for but yea
and now you have the foulborn if you rly want recouo
so we lose our helm slot too
(and a jewel socket)

but mageblood also did that jewel socket
for i would blunderbore too for action speed ngl
I dont personally think gull is worth
issue on blunderbore is it gives nothing for res shrine
blunderbore fuck brutal shrine
gull could be insane lol
but its fun
supreme ostentation looks to be on the menu with the new eclipse support
i mean foulborn gull is like rly good
as general item
for some builds
Did they nerf it again?
Its definitely good but i think you have better items
Gull is worth unless you need a tech helmet
Did i miss a new ralakesh nerf or?
no
yea but if its boosting the belt at same time + giving you the hybrid setup
i mean gull is basically 75 life 40 cold res and 25 action speed and 5 max res on that belt , surely that's better than any helm
i honestly really like how the gull keeps coming back into the meta because of how many layers this game has lmao
but also in maps i would wear it
what build benefits the most from 85% inc action speed
every build
i dont think youll get it early enough gull is worth using
except slams i guess
Brands dont 
anything that isnt brands
yeah any, but does any build get particularly silly?
Poe belts are a very competative slot for sure
50% action speed is 50% better build tbh
well stuff that double scales from cast rate
anything that wants attack/cast speed
even without the attack/cast speed, 85% movement speed poggers
do remember its a multiplier
Accel shrine also gives a lot of proj speed
its more than 85%
*1.85 move speed
what's the actual math
WHO doesnt like 85% more damage 🤔 🤔
Chat its spark time
there's no quicksilver flask tho so its a bit less than getting action speed shrine on a shrine stacker
i was just estimating 85
action speed is animation speed
what about diamond shrine herald of thunder autobomber? is it good for bossing?
50% more movement speed X shrine effect
its 85% ms if you have 0 ms sources
autobombers are not good at bossing generally
So your character is literally 85% faster directly multiplying all your stuff
normal ms amout is like 100-150
probably worse than literally any other hitting skill with diamond shrine for bossing
it gets better for every point of ms you have
penis brand herald bomber was best haha
The leapslam goess brr
action speed multiplies attack/cast/move speed
Accel shrine is action speed, what does it matter what your ms is?
and on 100-150% inc ms 85% action speed is 212% extra ms
because action speed is a multi
Yea?
deadeye spark accel shrine belt + gull + blunderbore + that one timeless jewel that lets you ignore stat requirements
clear the entire map + mirage in a server tick
dunno bout deadeye i think inquis is just better
so more movespeed = more increased ms from action speed
idk why would you go deadeye

move speed idk
Since you dont give a fuck about tailwind
Almost geting vertigo from that 😅
Is there anything else that scales off of proj speed
Worb 
any bow skill with mastery
That sounds like a madeup name
for inc damage per proj speed
actually scales
winter orb
Serious question... for the Development
Like HOW DO YOU KEEP MAKING THIS BETTER AND BETTER AND LIVE WITH YOURSELVES, HAHA THANKS FOR A GREAT GAME!!!
Thats my fav bow skill
frostblades can return if you got 300~% proj speed if i remember correctly
but uh honestly spark is the main proj speed scaling skill where you want increased
there's a few skills where nimis only works in open layouts if you got high proj speed
All the others ican think of want slower
Oh true actually ek nimis
forgot about that
TS also wants proj speed
I think ts wants echoing shrine personally
repeat seems nuts
frostblades is a really fun skill tho
wow crazy
people forcing it even when its F tier because its fun
yea its similar to people forcing worb :d
Hits twice 
tyty
if only soulrend of the spiral didn't cost infinite mana
Replenishing shrine
lol
im gonna keep pushing it till people try it
or just lifetap 7l 
dead faster than a wardlooper touching a pixel of mana donut 
its only like 2k life/s smh
Huh
Wardlooper tanks mana donut
Or atleast mine all have
like it just didnt do anything
since you still have over 10k recoup going for 4 seconds after you step on it
id play wardloop but i cant deal with zbutton
@fossil mural is kinetic blast good
Wardloop is old news
How about ward shatter
can't deal with temp bubble either
Ye temp bubble is ass
1 link frostbolt just for the kicks
you just have to spam weapon swap
Kboc is the best leg starter
action couldnt be completed your going too fast
"you have performed too many actions recently"

On what class
Hiero or necro
can't wait to see this being the main limit to action speed stacking spark
Can it go endgame or just leg start
Idk ask grok
The ss doesnt say that

Grok is kboc good endgame
beep boop no
ignore the dmg on this since i had removed it for testing purposes but my tankiest wardloop setup back in sanctum league
Rest in piss
could tank basically anything that was below i think 30-40k ele infinitely
The gpu killer, nice
yaa
Please no more tempations of making more attack builds 😅 feels like done it for 2years now
Oh also this doesnt trigger for casting/attack just stuff like opening decks weapon swapping etc
otherwise the acc stack jugg would be unplayable
power siphon surely is faster leveling than kinetic fusillade right?
with yknow 40 aps
true
FR of Soul Sacrifice Occultist is still good right?
how does one get 4% reduced dura without eating a ring or ammy
Tbh all The wand skills are fast af
impossible escape magebane take the wheel on tree
ye i loved all my Ward loops builds. I did every element, and Cold was always the most OP. Chaos WardLoop was awesome though ... running all Chaos Skills like Forbidden Rite / Soulrend / Voltaixc Burst and i cant remember the fourth skill ... I fif a fire version with Firestorm / Blazing Salvo / Rolling Magma / And Fireball ------ Lightning was the weakest, with Ball Lightning / Storm Burst / Spark & Again i forget the 4th
why would it be
what will happen to vaal temple map?
no life recoup, interesting
need it to hit 0
it has recoup
its still on the Atlas
or rather, no forbidden rite
Why 0?
if im rushing for 4 voidstones on hiero
should i go SELFCAST or TOTEM kinetic fusillade.. which is easier to start and setup for dmg
Look Far right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
but how do you get them?

ah hm
how are you running a progenesis then
you should have way too much chaos res with that life pool
just use a T16 Map i bet on that node and run it forever...
balanced Phys damage to chaos res
Double ring
and alt qual cwdt
At the time
Ignore me
that seems op
vaal temples are like 16c a pop
💀
its a unqiue map now ///
ah
what did the alt qual on cwdt do
Look at it.. its not got the ring around it
less damage required
With 100% reduced duration only the 50ms added delay will apply, allowing the skill to be cast or triggered up to 20 times per second without causing movement stuttering.
ah, makes sense
Think i had a 21/23 that league
in 3.25 you had to have zero armor and almost -60 chaos res
yeah i think i had around 30-40 chaos res on that setup
i fixed it!
not capped but enough
New Shaper / Elder Area
we stay winning
was more of a test setup though since i was curious how tanky i could get it without scuffing the damage too much
i just removed i think omni for that test so i wouldnt kill the boss instantly 
cast speed
2 stone runs One stone run
from qqual
time to farm ritual for dusk rings 100c a pop sell
its fine i can hit 100 with a 21
Gonna be hard going from my 14 end charges charecter to whatever i do this league 😅 just tanke everything
Ahh i see thought it was dura
5 to 1 some mist ones
fair enough
empower warp 
Cold DoT occultist with frostmage support and replica covenant
Also im p sure dusk rings are only from mists not ritual
Ritual was nameless ring
also trust me, no one will b playing this
the autism is autisming
im gonna be farming ore to pay my workers for my shitments
you wouldnt go replica covenant your already getting so much flat from frost mage
Thats like going eblade on archmage
BReach bloodline is so interesting with The new point
meowtism
mrrp
totem
:3
there's no reason to be hiero if you self cast KF
Holy that's op
we got reacts back 
how so
Best traveling skill
when current league ends, does Kingsmarch ore move to the Standard league?
true, i will be travelling
naca do u happen to have the server tick values
deleted
its just 0.033
Or is it
every 0.033 seconds is a server tick
Has the Harvest crew died out? Will it still make sense to get inside the Harvest with this new mechanic?
weh?
Yes?
Tf you mean
there is even an exclusive lifeforce that drops from that
double cornucopia value
Corn will be shit unless the new lifeforce drops from uniques
which will probably be largely useless outside of mirror crafts since it'll be in challenges
tyy
(so if you take coc cooldown .15>4.5454 etc repeating it rounds up to 5 5*0.033=.165 you have your trigger rate)
i mean its still solid for the price
Big Blue Bingers Blasted By Bogans
you get enough cdr to make it relevant
Will just be worse than crop rota
wat new lifeforce?
from badge for travel skills
but its much faster
Yes
T4 seeds take ages
i meant
where did we see that, what is this 'new' lifeforce?
Website
crop rota too
miraged harvest drop
also i like getting oshabis
onooo my corns 😢
wdym i beat her up
anything to beat her up 
I dont know what's more concerning, when it's yellow purple or red
Simulacrum blight and tile loot gigabuffed let's go!
Tile loot pogchamp
i might be blind but dam i dont see it lol
Blight got obliterated wdym
doubled rare currency drop ziz said too 
dbl towel loot
might be huge in ssf to get a good amount of divs
"Empowered leagues" section
Doesnt say what it does
Just that its there
nerfed but we get mirage loot too and dbl loot to make up for it, can be good never know
No more harbi or fossil rolls
You'll get oil more often
You'll get currency incubators more often
You can't rollharbi or fossil on tile loot
its WORKING (terribly)
Does Fleshrender's "Cannot poison enemies with at least 12 poisons on them" mean i literally cannot poison them or that only 12 poisons can deal damage at a time
99% sure I'm going SSF with Totems. hrm
Which Blade Trap is that
I mean sure ig but like they really nerfed blight hard
what you cooking?
Cant inflict poison
literally cannot poison
Wym?
It means you can only have up to 12 poisons
fuuuck this sword sucks ass
Blade Trap of Laceration Gladiator
Just go phys dot
I don't have the block nodes on glad yet

did you read patch notes bruh
So that kicks out Toxic Delivery and Volatility now
hi
I watched people read them like an audiobook i didn't hear anything about simi or blight
47th League for POE ...and my 27th League
then open them now and ctrl+f blight
Blight scrabs nerfed
We really need a "All damage can inflict bleeding" unique
Blight ravaged is fine if you were running those you just lose a bit of profit from fossils
Blighted maps* not blight in maps lmao!
But probably made up for by those chests being replaced with other content
this feels broken 
phys as extra bleeds
then yeah sure
grace of the goddess bleed kb 
Exactly no harbi pods, no fossil pods
More currency and incubator pods
The incubator pods themself can't roll fossil or harbi either
So legion buff
Oh ye no harby too thats big buff
although iwish the blight farmers still had that specifically for annuls
annuls are gonna be pricey this league 
So when you Mirage do you get two harvests?
yes
8 rituals? Or 4, and 4
Every scarab is gonna be 2x the price because of mirage now
that one is unclear
guys what mechanic will you play since blight and boxes seem kinda badly nerfed ? 😄
thats not how it works lol
i think since its just a small slice of the map prob no ritual
Only the ones that spawn near it, so if all 4 are in mirage area, then sure
well no everyone gets mirages so price is the same
It's not but it's funny to think about lol
that literally makes 0 sense
Heist, blight ravaged, ultimatum, maven rushing silo,
bismuth ore+lost ships+veridium+contracts+beyond mfing dusting uniques and shipping 10m
well i hate all of that
Yeah I know Mirages only has 8% chance to spawn per area
like even harbrigers gone
Generic scarab farming kill rares kill your hands
i basically have nothing fun to run anymore
or what im personally gonna be trying to figure out a farm for those exceptional rogue exiles
and still i am big affraid that the ground loot still be really bad
Im fully expecting them to drop complete shit for loot but i can hope
?? No they will be in every area like Breach last league
yea they looked like good juice maybe
Kinetic black
They are? That'd be insane
Inherently exiles just have shit loot so im not sure
wonder what exceptional multistrike looks like
but i wanna try since it looks fun
Yes every league its always in every area.... the new mechanic is in every area, so all the way through campaign, it will be in every single zone and area
didnt they showcase it in the reveal
and it was just woke multi strike
the ores could be good but 50 mil shipment of ores could take a loong time to get since you get liek 20-30k of ingots max with scarab and that scrab for ingots will definetly go up in price
since woke gems gone
It'd be pretty silly if their cool new stuff only showed up in 8% of areas
its in the video
mustive missed it. sick woke multi lives under a new name
Yaa
Wasn't this the case for one of the leagues
I don’t like how gears always drop to lvls lower than the lvl of exile
so lab that would previously convert regular support to awakened now converts regular gem to exceptional of that type?
they removed it
Since yknow the exiles are also gonna be weaker in a lower lvl area
it's in the patch notes
i really hope they buffed the over all loot gained by atleast 30% that we lost last league
will these beauties be cheaper now ? 😄
It should drop gears for the same lvl not higher or lower
Not sure, depends on drop rate ..
what do you mean its always minimum area level +2 from being unique
In an 83 zone they always drop an 85 item
Some probably will. Some will be dozens of divines
I hear people saying self-ignite got nerfed, are they just saying that cuz of Hinekora's?
well we know what multisrike cost normaly and its not cheap 😄
do exceptionals drop from maven still?
ideas how to craft this sht?
I hope we end up with supports being worth a mirror
will be funny as fuck to see the reddit complaints
Different exceptionals drop from each boss
get +1 , clean , augment for +2 then lock reforge speed then multimod i guess
so if you squint alot target farmable
ISsue is mana cost is increased 20% ... and everything else is a buff.. terms of ilvl and attribute requirement.. you can equip these earlier, Awakwned gems you could never put on till LVl 80 .. these all seem capped at 76 max level so i would assume 72 Lvl 1 .. which is good !!
Means leveling 2nd Char is better, and dmg spikes will appear earlier at 72 rather then 80
then you vaal it to lvl 78
yea that brings the question of what to start with
i get +1 with alt spam?
yeah
im going SB, however ill be in Florida for the first two weeks of League so ill miss it, but ill check progress on return
i want something like last leagues necromancer KB 😄 cheap and awesome dmg with minmal investment
alt spam for +1 all spells specifically
could also fossil for a +2 chaos then try to annul the +1 chaos
not +1 phys
ofc
depending on fossil price
way too much lol
have to delve for fossils now
With delve only fossils theyll be more expensive and its almost always cheaper to alt for 1 mod
especially since youd need to clean the affixes to aug phys
Fracture spell dam,
fossil spam for +1 all with clean pre
Multimod,preflock, CRA, aug phys
Preflock veiled chaos for budget, or aug speed for cast speed
If budget ur done, not budget you preflock aisling and pray no hit cast speed, if it does go agane
Youd fracture cast speed not spell damage
Nop
i have 35d
easy mode works with cast speed tree frac
enough?
Yes you just take the 50/50 to remove +1 all
Gl getting t2+ spell dam
can have up to 3 cannot roll attack suff cant be changed aug phys multi mod to spell damage/dd
fk spell dam il craft mod it
Settleshop sad
you can also go veiled exalt for veiled spell damage albiet gambling a bit
cast speed is so much nicer for qol
ya il do that why not
the why not would be getting an unuseable veil
Ele pen chaos pen and like Phys damage
oh nvm
Or unusable affix at all cuz u need to pray the veil mod even hits the 1/4 of being pre
Do modifiers to ignite duration on you apply to self-ignite?
i rolled a +1 phys do i reroll for all spell
i mean ye thats why i said exalt you can just try a few times :D ignore the price
Regal and be lucky then scour if you miss
cant rly do anything with +1 phys except i guess recomb
Ye non all +1 easily obtainable
but recomb is a pita to finish since unfractured anything
ye thats wht im doing
nvm il js reroll i have 2k alt
What’s fractured spell dam cost atm I’m on phone
alot?
did they show all the scavengers ascendancy yet?
Might not cuz of tree
No
Check
They said Monday for reveal on reddit though iirc
isn't new bloodseeker really good with the dissolution of the flesh + petrified blood combo?
no
You just click eternalyouth for dissolution
You now have 33% of your life per second as recovery
or whatever it is
over wearing a shit claw
Holy unique enemies are nearby
Settled on cs cuz it’s bv build
cold snap?
wait do i use profane wand or pagan , profane base has more cast
i think they use pagan due to lower int req
but if you have the int then profane would be better i assume
i use caspiro
Int req or cheaper basically
Profane is better, pagan is cheap but less int req
cheap as in better rolls or wut sry
If im doing fusillade totem duelist do I take the time to get it from scion or wait till act 3?
It costs less to buy
as in t1 fractured spell damage might be 5+ div less or something
im buying the base tho
depending on the league
For bases/fractures
bruh I am ready for this day to END
so litteraly 1c
get fractured cast speed if still on pbod man
Yes and a pagan with fractured spell dam is a lot cheaper than a profane with it
Does anyone know if they dropped all the new Scion ascendancy passives?
tru
They havent
We also know they're changing some of them from what ive heard
monday
Howlcrack to Brass Dome and Widowhal to something else i heard
no 💸 💸 to buy
then fraced spell crit
ty!
How much is spell dam fracture man
or +all levels if for some miracle cheap on playstation
i guess thats possible
its worse than bench spell dmg + as chaos
Worse than spell dam
for that build
no miracles here lol
Self-Ignite Flicker Strike 
Pbod gets that much inc?
Vaal Flicker Strike makes your ignite and normal Flicker Strike deposits you across the entire map
yea
Huh
like i made mine with t1 spell dmg and hella regret it 
unveiled spell dmg + chaos is bis, but already bench wins over natural
why does he have a shoe on his hand?
Fair enough
when i read it i understood it as only howlcrack has been removed, widowhail's value is changing but idk what they'd change it to cause 50 would be worthless
Howlcraxk brass dome would be #1 op
Day 1 simu into day 2 Ubers
Fall off like a truck after but not before u make a few mirror
ele primordial bond stacking sure is a drug
ok theres a frac 32% cast for 35c but the base is spell damage
or atleast i think they linked ele
Who's the go-to mines person that I can just follow every league
ok?
alot worse than cast speed base
nvm
Get profane with frac spell crit
Since then after you finish prefix you can preflock caster
Yeah the implicit on profanes is like t3 cast speed on its own
do i frac orb and pray
There isn’t one really. Closest you’ll get is fearlessdumb0 who is the guy for explosive trap
Then frac on cast speed suffix
Just check profane with t2 or 3 cast speed frac
Is bis for reason, way easier to get spell crit on suffix than cast speed
T1 weight do be ass
Dang ok
Mines are vastly different depending on the skill used with them
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rgfwoc/potential_probleminconvenience_with_the_new_atlas/ yo actual good idea in reddit
wtf is this
@icy zinc can you believe
ofc if that maven invitation still exists
ok ok i got one with crit frac 96%
Cant you Just regex 10 good maps
Alt+aug until +all now, then regal. Clean, multimod cannot roll attacks any non attack prefix. Harvest add/remove phys pray to not lose +all. Preflock veiled ex until spell dmg, preflock aug caster until cast speed. Bench crit multi or double damage, done
kk doing it rn
Can settle on multiple points if broke, like multimod cast speed spell dmg after getting +all and +phys
Yeah id like this too
quick jump to dunes jv defiled etc
watch me remove this post 
why
its dumb
er
it's already been reported once
ill remove it if it gets more reports/etc.
huhh
1s lemme report
not what i meant but ok

wow mods report brigading through discord
I am reporting this to reddit admins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is lioneye's glare like, turbo-cracked now?
Nope
50% more attack speed and attacks repeat seems insane
its worse than any rare bow
More atk speed when u have no local is useless
I agree that more unique items need to be useful
but idk I think y'all are underestimating it a little bit
Nope
its just multistrike
^
in a 700 pdps bow
Binos had the headstart of doing something unique and hard to find elsewhere
Way better than i thought it was tbh
with low crit
Most other uniques mentioned in buffs did not
use a channeling skill with it
Bow miner, go bow miner, go bow miner 🎶
Which is why everyone is excited for binos and not other items
does anyone know if you can socket a skill in kitavas thirst with archmage attached and get the bonus dmg? also do you have to pay the mana cost of triggered skills?
Yes and yes but it cant trigger itself cuz it has a cooldown
cool, ty
like phys bows are pretty annoying to craft and if you settle with a %phys unveil its prolly like at 800pdps + crit + 2 arrows, while triple t1 ele bows are pretty 'easy' to craft
Bloodseeker Unique Claw no longer has 5% increased Attack Speed or 5% increased Movement Speed. Bloodseeker now has 15-25% increased Life Reservation Efficiency of Skills and 5-10% increased maximum Recovery per Life Leech for each 5% of Life Reserved. These changes do not affect existing items.
This is super whatever right
you dont use lioneyes as phys bow
you use it as paradoxica
yeah you dont use it at all
oh pog Marohi has AoE now
you use it as a str stack replica alb setup
where your solving atk speed with jugg
so a repeat and more atk speed is nuts
“Attacks you use YOURSELF”
2.2 aps bow with 60% more on top is indeed pretty good
Is Voltaxic Rift still ass
how would you in theory, deal with the self damage from say.... 3 x storm's secret?
we found any op tech yet chat?
recoup?
someones using new belt with +1 ring slot no flasks
abuser spotted
Now I am confused
nerf them
olroths resolve and ward equivalent to 3 storm rings worth of damage 
it still has far shot on it
Everyone is telling me it sucks except deathbeam. I assume everyone else is simply wrong?
Also its affected by your res so just some max res and recovery is fine
why when i alt sometimes i get no mods
Small Attack Block Cluster Jewels can now roll the the new Notable: Fiery Aegis.
Medium Exerted Attack Cluster Jewels can now roll the new Notable: Holy Word.
wonder if these are good or just Hallowing Flame stuff
Pcharges graven belt
everyone else i guess forgot that lioneyes glare had other lines on it before idk
So ele hit 
I'll do math
i think it has good potential
always trust in db until someone proves db wrong
lioneye's glare has like, a lot of decent lines on it, idk
SOMETHING has to be playable with it
Legitimately best practice
It does not
especially the one that says you get a lot of dust
well the bow ele hit would rather rhavev +lvl bow i think
i mean it has Far Shot + Hits Cant Be Evaded + 50% more attack speed + bow repeat, it cant be THAT bad
self cast only
Pepepeew
Anybody got any idea how do i get orbs of regret or sumthing to refund my skill points
sure why not
whats your ign
was this on my idea
Spells go ZAAAP, bows go plink, and melee is better than both. Life is rough
yea
What else gives you lots of flat?
what does that matter
replica alberons
fatal flourish is just +1 repeat
the bow not working with mirage archer is kinda whatever imho
herald stack, str stack
Whispers of Infinity
also whispersr yea, but not poison
Isnt far shot
far shot doesnt work for poison
so slayer fatal flourish whispers lioneyes glare something?
doesnt lioneyes make fatal flourish worse
ithink youd go jugg if your using fatal flourish you dont bother with lion eyes
because it gives damage on final reeat
Am I crazy or did ggg inadvertently buff CoC FRoSS by letting you imbue level 1 pc on crit?
probably xdd
and you are delaying it
but it's funny
Do we have any idea what Suspend In Time does
No
or for non str stack you prob just go deadeye
i'd guess so yeah
maybe scion widowhail + spinehail
far shot not working with poison stinks a little
you could go elementalist heralds lioneyes glare :d
but you get far shot
I wanted to do whispers for a long time
Surely mana stack isnt paper
with lycia on top
Do like 80% mom
Ever played FRoSS? I got my first full original ubers clear last league with it
with whispers you just dont go mom
or just click CI and rely on mana as ES
how does gain as extra work with new breach bloodline?
Thats not a whispers build
wrong
its barely affected by the int nerf because your % mana and % es was already additive with each other
i assume it gets transformed first
I like that they only arqebuised the golems and not the heralds
they are unnerfing it a lil
so gain iwill be counting from final value
for specifically gain as es
Why?
Go on explain why
because mom is garbage :d
You stack mana and use es for cost
if you are whispers flat stacking for life build
Literally free dr
you rather rjust reserve your mana
little
or you click CI and dont take chaos damage replace chaos res
reserving your mana is more defense than garbage mom these days
you now have more mana and more tankiness from running auras
Esp when you can just imbue level 1 lifetap
fuck, Skysunder only spreads from ignites made by the weapon
I’m not talking about Whispers
Hmm. My elementalist will lose like 140% golem buff effect. I guess maybe it just got a slap on the wrist?
doesnt this mean it doesnt work on an ag actually thinking about it
Thats half what you had doesnt it
since the ag's ignite would be attributed to you
Nope
huh? it does
Oh wait
Is that how that bug works
Anyway how bad does Hydrosphere feel for multi-hitting things
its not a bug its intentional so an ignite doesnt get assigned to a minion that dies or w/e and breaks stuff
I bet ggg wanted the reflect to work with the spread but fucked it up by making sure you can't use a spell with it
If you are zerker or can use that ring? Not bad
Garbage mom?

Looking at it for Holy Sweep for an extra hammer
we said not the moms 
Not the garbage moms
What about garbage dads
where dad keystone
Those check out
outstanding move
Just feels such a waste to stack mana and only get like 10% of it as es and flat
From it
My wishes in order:
- Tanky - should be able to farm simulacrum
- Auto-targeting - no point and click
- Max 2 (actively pressing) buttons
- QoL such as speed and no ramp
- Min-Max possibilities
- Single target damage
- Map clear
Any build that comes to mind?
I have like: 100% base, 70% tree (×1.7), 50% ele (×2.2), 20-50% qual (idr, ×2.4-2.7), bunch of primordial eminence with corruptions for like total of ×5.33. So I'd retain ×3.93, ish
- everything
Maybe it's incorrectly built though
i mean its quite a lot of falt at like 5k mana already
and getting 5k mana is easy
?
Surely there is something else you can do with it
Tanky, high damage, good clear, low buttons, shit let me know if you find one
Well i guess you didnt specify cheap, FRoSS probably works
I never said high damage, that's why it's in the bottom of the list
Council as well maybe xdd
As poe1 noob/first league, is RF even fun to play? Passive damage only/no buttons sounds….not like something I’d enjoy?
needs to be 10 div or less
your wishes are "everything"
if you dont have high damage kosis bricks your simus
No, they are in order by weighting
Depends on what you mean by high dmg
helmbreaker praw
But in any case, it's easy to misinterpret your post as "I want all of these things"
I want all of these things
Rather than this is in order of importance from vital to irrelevant
same
Yea I get that, mb
I knwo I cant get all
So I tried to get what's most important for me
if your goal is simus you probably can just play clunky shit
int stack nimis kblast
i want giga dps with good clear and giga tanky on 10div budget
Budget wasn't even listed lmao
its my wishlist
Ah, fair
if you cannot do simies on 9mirr budget build isnt issue lol
If this is the budget the list is very reasonable imo
Watch me
I want a zero to hero build that can scale to the moon but doesn't feel like ass to league start
Like, how do you crush the game gigatanky with autotarget
Kboc
I've done simus every league, it's not that i say it's not possible. I just want something fresh
FR?
flicker scion 
are any builds already theorycrafted?
Surely not cope
spectral shield throw of thesaurus
sadge
0 damage node but frenzy on hit surely 
wildspeaker flicker with half the damage 
the holy hammer skill looks promising
fross was fine but it capped out at like 1mir or even before
I want to see how good the new retal skill is
What actually does this btw? Preferably higher dmg than RF?
And whats the diminishing on it
FRoSS is nice. I never push past like a single mirror though, and often play glass cannons
Yea you don't really get above 1 mirror. After that build I playes armor stacker on like a 4-5m budget at that was also great but I want something new 🙁
intstack deadge (good)
spark i guess
Maybe some kind of wander also?
well that would only be nimis setup
If they can fit like block cap or something
Extra targets yes
Dont think so?
southbound + the hateful accusser is pretty sweet when it comes to kill bosses
these dont scale together right? the double armour from shield and armour on shield
no
Specifically
they dont synergize together
Dumb
i wonder how
Hey, guys, just watched the content reveal, They cooked again. Looking for a cheap leaguestarter build that can clearn all map in one cast but also is great at rushing uber bosses and is very tanky, so I can go afk in ultimatums without pause
is the level scaling on that banner
xd
afk in ultimatums
read the patch notes again
afk ultimatum builds are dead
Hidden blade all day
the same as before
- what uly just said
I'm joking, I'm gonna play some really bad off meta build
I want everything with some extra spice at a low cost, tyvm
Hertfordshire look insane
you understand that you would need to pick... energy shield passives?
the left type of stat only ever scales by what the number on the shield says
instead of int passives?
Mask of the stitched demon
you dont have to go ES
you can still go life
that would be the only viable route now
....GGG no
Int has been slammed. But only if you're ES. Or evasion. Or probably some other things.
GGG YES
Accuracy
🤝
Trickster
...job
oh not
Trickster literally from the ash into the fire. No, it was not over yet boy
Why his knee angry
dom blow is like, free 2mil dps with nothing but the tree and a 5link
maybe they'll buff Fleshrender before release 
Trickster lost his job, house, wife kids. Lived in a box on the street. Then they took the box.
He deserves it
jiquani on trickster works mostly
AI image
idk what else would you do there probablynothing
yeah but then you're playing dom blow
yeah and dom blow is fun with extra strike + melee splash
Reliquarian kf ballista supremacy
It's a sad state of casters that he's literally kind of occultist lvl and not worse?
guys what if the new belt can roll pantheon shrines
Damn
so depends
it cant probably
its limited to the default shrines excluding the system breaking one
so echoing and divine are out probably
accelerating is still fucking insane on a belt xd
this is so tempting
Is there a meta in poe1 like there is in 2?
always
there is always a meta in a game
always
that's like a fundamental outcome of making a game with many possible ways to play
I mean ya there is but in 2 it’s always so clear so idk if it was the same
what was it in keepers?
stat stackers :d
INT/Accuracy stack prolly
you think it’ll be the same
no it got obliterated this patch lol
they re nerfing them this league so it wont be so eggregious

int accu stacking? didnt get obliterated
its still strong as fuck, unless they make the claw very rare
they halved the numbers
but also poe1 has def better baalance than poe2 as far as build ariety goes
it got giga nerfed
I've been halved!
it's not the cut and clear winner anymore
I’m thinkin of goin holy slam just bc new 
should be fine
not a bad idea
what mastery nerfed?
ES/EV Mastery
Good evening chat
this one
How good is the mastery "poison deals dmg faster"?
is there a cheap way to automate this ?
😨
jung did this with spellslinger
trigger wand, spellslinger maybe
it boosts dps until it doesnt
spellslinger, corpsewalkler

