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[hard cliff]

True but I'll just get the wheel

[opal ingot]

what if you dont get the wheel

[charred hornet]

Just use the new gem +1 fortify ez gamba

[hard cliff]

I don't know

[opal ingot]

and put that wheel onto 1p voices

[hard cliff]

That's wild

[soft perch]

its kinda crazy that mamba got probably the hardest nerf in the game ever

[loud geyser]

did it get nerfed

[hard cliff]

Static Strike is beams not projectiles

[opaque sphinx]

campaign gives 0 juice
atlas lets u force fortress
literally more blood is available than before
the tree is literally fully grown with all passives from the start in act 6 there is nothing u need to prepare besides blood

[opal ingot]

that would be the jackpot

[soft perch]

mamba got killed bro its dead

[dim gyro]

taken out back and shot

[final owl]

GGG really loves the old triple tap "balance" pass.

[loud geyser]

HAHAHA

[odd fox]

do we know the blood cap?

[loud geyser]

let me cope i still think it can be done

[soft perch]

i think over 80% less damage is an unusually large nerf personally

[hard cliff]

I've gotta find a way to get mana leech if I am gonna play this

[wintry lily]

its probably still playable, but its not worth the money dump to make it playable for most people now

[final owl]

it got terminated with prejudice is what happened to it

[loud geyser]

hold up leme see these notes ahah

[shy furnace]

penis brand of pissication got destroyed

[opal ingot]

it got triple tapped and a roundhouse kick. 30% less atk spd, 20% less dps and cant inflict multiple poisons on the same hit so probably only one dagger will do all the work. low tolerance went from 300% to 200%

[dim gyro]

nah even low tolarnce got nerfed. its like 80+% nerf probs

[charred hornet]

That just polite way of ggg saying...we dont like the way this skill currently played

[ember goblet]

🤩

[bold scarab]

idk ... maybe you arent identifying hard enough

[loud geyser]

[bold scarab]

xD

[shy furnace]

200% less dmg and 25% less activatin time lol

[soft perch]

200% less damn, it heals enemies

[final owl]

but KF untouched right?

[opal ingot]

yep pristine

[wintry lily]

Self cast hexblast poison builds got nerfed for existing yet again /s

[final owl]

wild. honestly feels like mamba jumped in front of KF yelling "I'LL SAVE YOUUUUUUUuuuuu"

[opal ingot]

this means that day 1 we will have 20% kinetic fusillade players, 30% lightning arrow deadeye players and 30% RF players

[shy furnace]

penis brand used to do 600% more now its 400% more and takes 25% longer to reace

[sleek barn]

who's playing new siphoning trap ???

[normal hedge]

ty mamba players

[nova minnow]

mamba nerfed to shiit?

[hard cliff]

@opal ingot
https://i.imgur.com/fQUSaEX.png

I took it

[bold scarab]

its damage got halved ... and then cut by an additional 20% after the fact

[opal ingot]

that's how i feel XD i went in expecting Kf gets shot in an alley and turns out it was mamba

[real spoke]

I really can't wrap my head around KF being safe while Mamba (not super popular skill last league) got gutted

[bold scarab]

on top of the attack speed nerf

[wintry lily]

practically, yes.

[bold scarab]

so its litterally just normal viper strike but worse

[opal ingot]

🦐

[nova minnow]

cant have shhh in life

[opal ingot]

what does animeprincess think of this

[bold scarab]

no reason to ever use it ever ... single poison build died

[dim gyro]

u forgot to mention this too

[short prairie]

Chieftain
The Hinekora, Death's Fury Notable now has Enemies you or your Totems Kill have 10% chance to Explode (from 5), dealing 250% of their maximum Life as Fire Damage (from 500).
This is buffing RF clearing

[wintry lily]

ggg, plz give hexblast no cd and a tag that prevents mines from using it.

[bold scarab]

ye but you could just use that with normal viper strike ... which means mamba is worthless

[wintry lily]

I just want to play hexblast self casting again

[opal ingot]

maybe im just gonna blast heist

but the new atlas is soo goood

[nova minnow]

i still have no time, im still gonna play std like a casual

[dim gyro]

i guess maybe i play KBoC this league since PBoD is dead

[soft perch]

ele hit time

[bold scarab]

the only way to save mamba right now without buffing its damage is if they just bake pathfinders prolif into the skill directly ... then MAYBE it might be even 1/10 justifyable

[hard cliff]

this tree is getting out of control

[wintry lily]

surprised ele hit survived

[opal ingot]

ure welcome. im expecting my 5d compensation by the end of day 3.

[wintry lily]

guess not many people fucked around with it last league

[nova minnow]

So any crazy good legacy uniques im unaware about

[opaque sphinx]

mamba might not have been meta but it was beyond broken levels of strong as a regular strike skill

[opal ingot]

old vinktars or some shit

[opaque sphinx]

the poison part definitely did not need nerfed

[nova minnow]

oh good, nothing important.

chugging potions is a trap, the less buttons u press the better ur build becomes

[wintry lily]

maybe this league i farm cluster jewels /s

[simple stag]

so imbued gems will have a max 20/20 now no doryani shenanigans?

[stable timber]

Wow they removed petal skills, no more tedious clicking

[opal ingot]

why not instill it

[normal hedge]

i dont think i'll have 5 divines on day 3 with my VD build

[nova minnow]

mageblood >;c

[opal ingot]

XD

[wintry lily]

pfft lameblood

[opal ingot]

there are a fuckton of good legacy uniques out there. im just not knowledgeable enough

[final owl]

that sounds.. potentially quite broken?

[short prairie]

Intelligence now inherently grants 1% increased Maximum Energy Shield per 10 Intelligence (previously per 5 Intelligence).

GGG really really really want to kill CI

[bold scarab]

turn it into normal mamba but with prolif ... then at LEAST it would have a reason to be used

[opal ingot]

aw what i wanted to try that petal skill that revives harvest mobs

[nova minnow]

i meant from current patch notes, but yeah

[dim gyro]

i need ppl to let me know what the most broken combos are gonna be

[wintry lily]

I hope it is what it actually says there, one broken league mechanic is fun

[tough cove]

the worst part is a great reason to use mamba with a 2h sword with the new sword (aka a new playstle) and now even that doesnt work because of the one application textbox

[wintry lily]

The most broken combo is giving me your mirrors and divines

[stable timber]

trust me what they are introducing is way more convenient and comfy haha

[wintry lily]

it will leave you financially broken (in game)

[opal ingot]

is it the mirage mechanic

[bold scarab]

pretty sure that was always there? mamba was always 1 big poison

[shy furnace]

not killing ci, they are balancing es. int stacker get too muich dmg and too much es

[wintry lily]

the cluster jewel thing? yes

[opal ingot]

where you can replay the same mechanic again

[tough cove]

it was always there but you never did it because of the double hit as one hit part

[opaque sphinx]

the fuck, int stack jugg didn't die

[opal ingot]

chatgpt can you estimate the damage and survivability nerf from int/acc stack juggs

[tough cove]

but now mamba is just garbage. its crap as a one poison applicator. its crap as a hit build cause they nuked the attack speed and limited it to one poison application per hit

[dim gyro]

he's talking about using this to apply multiplepoison

[opal ingot]

🥹

[bold scarab]

oh ye ... gg ... also it was cant poison poisoned enemies so i guess if they hadnt changed it it would have worked

[opal ingot]

listening to all this just feels like a wife hearing all the atrocities his husband has done behind the scenes

[opaque sphinx]

pretty sure its cuz of the rings... and not that weapon nobody used

[bold scarab]

yeee ggg is terminally dumb

[opal ingot]

a mass murdering drug peddling ganglord

[wintry lily]

who up consecrating their paths

[tight plinth]

Lesser and greater proj no longer stacks

[tough cove]

it was the rings but you can use the rings with reave, which is now the superior poison stacker for melee

[fiery marsh]

Someone cook me up a ungodly tanky sabo

[dim gyro]

it's a new weapon so of course nobody used it.....

[nova minnow]

fuck does this mean? i run strand 1 to 16?

[wintry lily]

yes

[nova minnow]

o woahhh

[tough cove]

while also not feeling like clunky booty to actually use

[surreal musk]

u still need atlas completion

[opaque sphinx]

ok well even if u could, nobody would cuz thats bad

[nova minnow]

its ok i play standard this is better

[bold scarab]

ye its basically the waystone system from poe2 ... you plug your rolled map into whatever map you wanna run

[charred hornet]

You still run other map for point first tho

[fiery marsh]

Ways tones but better

[wintry lily]

hong is a std player, hong doesn't care

[nova minnow]

does it apply to t17s

[bold scarab]

ye waystones but better

[tough cove]

theres one use for that sword, which is some weird animate weapon build

[fiery marsh]

Choose your layout

[tight plinth]

Can someone link the sword

[charred hornet]

Lol

[bold scarab]

AW is ...... honestly maybe not dead

[opaque sphinx]

80-130 PD
compared to a dagger with 1000+ flat dmg
u could make that sword have 8x flat dmg and it'd still be worse

[nova minnow]

can i run only sanctuary, no more citadel?

[fiery marsh]

Fulcrum on crack tbh

[stable timber]

Chisels got nuked for no reason lol

[tight plinth]

It was never dead

[bold scarab]

oh ye

i was gonna say mamba still better than normal

[tough cove]

i suppose you could put it on an animate guardian in a poison minion setup too

[bold scarab]

but uh no its not

[fiery marsh]

Chieftain zenith? With skysunder

[opaque sphinx]

but yeah it wasnt the rings either now that i think of it, it was the prolif spreading the original poison back to main targ

[wintry lily]

good, fuck em

[dim gyro]

I was thinking mana stacker whispers build for poison would work

[bold scarab]

ok ye

mamba is basically FORCED to only be a 2hander now

[tough cove]

the thing is that with the nerfs to attack speed your application speed is garbo

[fiery marsh]

Mamba is dead

Clusters got nerfed too

[tough cove]

if you want melee poison reave is just gonna end up vastly superior to mamba

[opal ingot]

did someone say strand
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxqb98k8a5xIbntqyM4zxVhsRU-6A3lXMB?si=L6pGz-u-2KbKy2Wf

[bold scarab]

it still has 200% more dmg to poison

[wintry lily]

Wonder how dead blight is to most people now

[warm musk]

Will people still run Nightmare maps(T17)?

[opaque sphinx]

yep, u literally cant dual wield it as poison build

[charred hornet]

Will people do uber? So yes

[dim gyro]

blight also lost the 50% increased non-unique mobs from atlas

[opaque sphinx]

buried and gone

[fiery marsh]

How else you getting uber frags?

[wintry lily]

they will when fubgun releases yet another "20div per hour farm" video

[tough cove]

blight will be fine

[wintry lily]

Eh, I will enjoy blight as it is.

[nova minnow]

No, I said I wanted a spreadsheet of what items I got

[dim gyro]

oh is t17s now nightmare? was wondering what nightmare maps were

[bold scarab]

which means bino is dead ... which means pathfinder or the foulborn embalmer is the only way to play it

[tough cove]

you get 2 blights per map, which more than makes up for the nerfs

[surreal musk]

nightmare + 16.5 are sti ll gonna be the best farming maps since they still roll more maps/scarabs/currency

[dim gyro]

bad news

[wintry lily]

I never minded blight anyways, I disliked the meta blight farming strat too

[fiery marsh]

Without t17 mods so drastically less loot

[tough cove]

foulborn embalmer got nuked

[bold scarab]

welp fuck

[tough cove]

so its either pf or binos

[fiery marsh]

Gone. Very powerful

[opaque sphinx]

not really its even dead for them cuz the poison cant prolif back to main target anymore

[nova minnow]

As you can now run any Map with a Map Item, the Favoured Map system has been removed.
But how will GGG know that I favour strand?

[bold scarab]

pain

[opaque sphinx]

i think? at least from wording

[warm musk]

I hope so tho or having a limited supply of uber frags will make boss runners sad if nightmare maps arent that juiced

[opal ingot]

well said, if you email them about your preferences, you can make a difference

[wintry lily]

you just pick the map you want to run instead.

[nova minnow]

Yeah, but how will they know I still favour strand?

[wintry lily]

they dont need to.

[opal ingot]

email them

[fiery marsh]

And map remembers last map ran. Dune stonks

[nova minnow]

I DISAGREE

[bold scarab]

you dont need to favor anything because you can just find strands on your atlas and plug every map into that slot

[tough cove]

the worst part is reliquarian appears to be hot garbage too

[dim gyro]

honestly i think small maps are going to be the strongest this league not big maps

[bold scarab]

nah its fine ... its just flavor of the league mechanic like permanent phrecia

[dim gyro]

small maps allow you to force more mechs into the mirage area

[fiery marsh]

350% widow tho

[tough cove]

no widow is gone

[opaque sphinx]

it is! and any reliq build u make will be unplayable next league enjoy!

[tough cove]

as is howlcrack. a ggg member confirmed that on reddit.

[hard cliff]

Hnnnghhhhhhh do I get Elemental Overload or Resolute technique for Archmage static strike ?

[bold scarab]

both

[tight plinth]

Neither?

[hard cliff]

Well I'm not going crit

[opal ingot]

neither (i dont have a reason)

[fiery marsh]

Funny golems buffed to moon then next league nerfed to hell

[tough cove]

im fine with the changing every league, i actually like that part alot

[keen badge]

is this armor MTX in the game, and which is it? i want to purchase it

[wintry lily]

@karmic gust I dont recall, but does your sarrow build take any amount of placement speed?

[bold scarab]

all they did was remove the increased buff effect ... unless they gutted the base golem gems they will still be your first lab as elementalist

[hard cliff]

Is there any "easy" way to cheat in a ton of accuracy if I just wanna use elemental overload on a strike skill ?

[opal ingot]

login everyone gonna play deadeye

[tough cove]

dedicated golem builds are still fine because primoridal gives oyu a ton of buff effect anywho

[pseudo axle]

so whats everyone's feeling on the patch notes? They seemed, fingers crossed, pretty good

[tough cove]

i think most of the stuff in the patch is fine

[bold scarab]

its annoying ... every league makes elementalist worse for golem minions ... and necro better for golem minions

[kindred silo]

seems eh

[tight plinth]

Idk yet, i need my favorite streamer to tell me how to feel

[opaque sphinx]

u use resolute early game only cuz no crit is a big dps loss and accuracy is easy to solve

[opal ingot]

LMAO

[wintry lily]

patch notes has some qol stuff, not big enough for me to care about in skill changes, 2 dead builds tho.

[opal ingot]

wish is aid that

[surreal musk]

https://i.imgur.com/scyvUJ5.png they still have 't17 mods'

[pseudo axle]

b-but I thought I was your favorite streamer

[tough cove]

really 3 dead builds, maybe 4 depending on how hard earthshatter got bopped

[fiery marsh]

Yeah but like 4 of them

[hard cliff]

Cat Thank you Gif

[wintry lily]

Whats the 3rd?

[tough cove]

rf

[karmic gust]

dont think so

its not super accesible stat but can get it on quiver and boots

[opal ingot]

db, can you make mamba great again

[karmic gust]

i mean unless the patch note was mistake then mamba is unplayable now

[wintry lily]

kinda have to now since ballistas got a nerf at 0%

[karmic gust]

if it do not combines hits anymore

[opal ingot]

🥹

[karmic gust]

its not possible to make i work again

[fiery marsh]

Mamba was like d tier regardless. Who league started that?

[tough cove]

mamba is basically a 2h sword poison build now

[bold scarab]

assasin ... 2 hander ... EB ... all hits poison

[karmic gust]

it wasnt starter

[hard cliff]

20% increased mana and 6% increased HP from the staff mastery node

Cozy

[fiery marsh]

Exactly

[tough cove]

as a terrible strike with basically no support on right side

[dim gyro]

glad i got to play mamba be4 it was shot

[karmic gust]

quiver it is i guess

[fiery marsh]

Kboc got gutted tbf

[opal ingot]

no! i want pf

[wintry lily]

not sure how much is needed to make it .35 again

[hard cliff]

I can block cap on this staff

[fiery marsh]

Without even changing the numbers on the gem

[bold scarab]

gonna be trash

[tough cove]

if im gonna play assassin poison im gonna play a spell poison build with spellblade

[wintry lily]

But with some placement speed it should be a buff since it gets ready faster

[karmic gust]

40% placement speed

[pseudo axle]

"All Unique Maps now have a fee of around 2000 Gold when purchasing from a Merchant Tab." - BOOOOOOO, and that is a BOOOOOO, not BOO-URNS.

[opaque sphinx]

ls arcing

[wintry lily]

Dont think a quiver alone works then :x

[dim gyro]

how did it get gutted?

[karmic gust]

well quiver is 30 close enough

[hard cliff]

What's that really important strike node

Samoas wrath or something

[wintry lily]

maybe, we'll see

[tough cove]

as a general rule i refuse to play lightning strike

[fiery marsh]

I think tornado interaction is gone and rune is gone too

[karmic gust]

oh i already had 40% even

from tree and qual i guess

[charred hornet]

2000 is alot...its like 2 times t16 alc and go run probably

[wintry lily]

sweet

I was about to say worse case we might need 1 cluster for placement speed

[karmic gust]

the rune is not gone no

[tough cove]

wasnt it higher than 2k gold before

[karmic gust]

they just changed the chain from any skill to projs

so doesnt matter for actual proj skills

no

[fiery marsh]

It doesn't interact the same way tho

[final owl]

yeah what was the old gold price for maps. at the point i'm bulk buying maps 2000 gold doesn't feel like it will be a problem anyway

[wintry lily]

anyways back to pconc pf > sarrow pf builds again

[bold scarab]

unless your dealing with ailments inquisitor just seems to be the defacto best caster rn

[opaque sphinx]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
didn't even see this
damn bro mamba didn't just die it got muuuuuuuuurdered

[hard cliff]

This is before yellow armor

If I get a lot of armour and keep my energy shield around 1.2k divine shield will basically always be feeding me a ton of ES for a pseudo always up shield, yes ?

[karmic gust]

its literally no change at all

for proj skills

[wintry lily]

tbh, the low tol nerf is whatever if mamba didn't get nuked from orbit in the first place

[karmic gust]

and so did every low tolerance build (and none existed alredy)

[hard cliff]

I should get corrupted soul

[karmic gust]

but they wont in future either now

[wintry lily]

only took ggg years to fully kill it

[bold scarab]

ye there is no recovering

[wintry lily]

since the only build that used it prior to mamba was something like self cast hexblast lmao

[karmic gust]

yea

[final owl]

I would love it if when they did full on murders like this, to mamba, they actually explained their rationale / what situation they were trying to avoid by doing it so dirty

[tough cove]

because 200% increased is kinda crap when you can land 2 more poisons and get the same amoutn of damage which most builds can do in split seconds

[bold scarab]

this puts the old dom blow nerf to shame with how shit they did mamba

[wintry lily]

I'd genuinely still play self cast hexblast if not for the 2s cd

[karmic gust]

idk why they even nerfed low tol itself ngl

[tough cove]

i would too

[karmic gust]

i assume they will rebuff it in future

and for now just dont play low tol builds anymore

and thats it

[fiery marsh]

That mamba was busted tbf

[wintry lily]

literally just give it no mines tag or some shit

[timber wyvern]

I think Holy Strike Guardian is gonna be nuts

[hard cliff]

I have no way to recover life

[bold scarab]

like why even touch mamba ... it was really good for clearing but that was LITTERALLY all it could do

[karmic gust]

well no

[hard cliff]

Visually it looks awesome

[wintry lily]

cant even do some stupid whispers hexblast build

[opaque sphinx]

mamba wasn't even busted as a poison skill, it was literally only OP as hit strike

[karmic gust]

but also it wasnt rly broken

[slow sonnet]

You guys think we're getting an armor set as challenge rewards this league?

[karmic gust]

just strong

[fiery marsh]

It deleted bosses tf

[wintry lily]

because hexblast with 2s cd is genuinely ass shittery

[fiery marsh]

Literally 1 tapped ubers

[bold scarab]

HOW .

[tough cove]

yeah base unique map is 5500 gold for lvl 1 unique

[opaque sphinx]

yeah as a hit based, as poison u needed a lot of invest

[timber wyvern]

Viper Strike Mamba is a T17 skill no?

[tough cove]

so 2k is a huge cost drop.

[fiery marsh]

Close combat with that other skill. Made it 1 tap bosses

[bold scarab]

ye but instead of nerfing hit based and compensating the poison ... they just gutted the entire gem

[opaque sphinx]

poison mamba was ok, lower end of strong skills
hit mamba was the highest dps skill by a mile

[bold scarab]

matter of fact

[echo horizon]

Holy shit they finally make templar start not dogshit

[bold scarab]

they didnt just not touch the poison side of the skill ... they actively nerfed it too completely seperately

[opaque sphinx]

not even nerfed, killed

[timber wyvern]

They made it slower...

[tough cove]

and it was already clunky af

[timber wyvern]

Less attack speed and damage

[dim gyro]

so this farming strat got buffed now that ores are used for currency shipment right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuCZwcoUAvk

[karmic gust]

they could've just nerfed DE and give back the multi to the poison multi

but yea idk weird changes

[hazy kiln]

we just had a big discussion about mamba, patch notes aren't being especially clear. there will be updates coming to the patch notes on this topic. maybe some more functional changes, but at the very least clarification.

[timber wyvern]

You'd probably have to go a two hander now for it

[wintry lily]

I beg.

[tough cove]

it seems like mamba is paying for pathfinders ascendancy thats only used effectively by mamba

[opaque sphinx]

even the unclarified stuff is unnecessary i think tbh
the numbers alone that we do know, make it unplayable

[bold scarab]

i mean its pretty hard to missread what yall put on the patch notes ... so unless something actually changes the hope for that skill is as good as burried

[opaque sphinx]

no hit build will use it
and no poison will use it either cuz y'all even nerfed low tolerance because reasons

[karmic gust]

i assume the wording being same as on regular viper strike is just mistake

because that def wouldnt make any sense

to d that

[hazy kiln]

I'm not going to comment anymore in case plans change

[timber wyvern]

I think you'd need to stack as much damage as you can now in a two hander

[karmic gust]

with not combining hits

[onyx adder]

they look clear to me lul, they might be especially wrong tho XDD

[hazy kiln]

but I would recommend waiting for updates to the notes

[onyx adder]

omg thanks

[wintry lily]

surely the notes will contain : hexblast no longer has 2s cd, now cant be cast by mines /s

[bold scarab]

fingers crossed then even tho im not gonna play it either way till later

[timber wyvern]

Sadism support is also an option

[karmic gust]

well its dead either way even if it combines hits so yea

[onyx adder]

its so nice to have a new profile name around league launch i was getting bored

[tough cove]

except sadism even after the buff is still next to unusable

[karmic gust]

yea sadism is useless gem

[opaque sphinx]

yeah but can we like
buff synth maps
cuz they just got another nerf as well
because reasons

[onyx adder]

sadism is good on the shitty new sword

[tough cove]

especially after they nuked low tolerance which is the only reason you would use sadism in the first place

[karmic gust]

they also removed the uh defiled so sadism last use is also gone

[onyx adder]

the one where u hit 3 times and it caps poison

[tough cove]

the problem is that swords damage is hot garbage for a 2her

therefore its automatically unusable

[onyx adder]

yea its a 400 pdps sword or somthing

[icy swan]

so whats intresting from new stuff

[karmic gust]

i dont rly get that wep ngl, it doesnt work with low tol right even if you apply multiple poisons at once

so what are you supposed to do with it

[opaque sphinx]

synth maps were already dead and beaten with a stick and only used for bubblegum farm/invites
now they are literally ONLY useful for invites
why dude

[opal ingot]

fun thing ziggy asked for synth items in synth maps and they said they're gonna take a look at it

[onyx adder]

yea it doesnt work with low tolerance i dont think

[karmic gust]

slam poison?

but then like jhust do low tol

with real wep

[timber wyvern]

Someone will figure it out. I have faith.

[tough cove]

i think the idea is that you stack a bunch of withers with it

[onyx adder]

low tolerance kinda mid now

[karmic gust]

if you have to hit 3 times just to get wither thats also pretty useless

[tough cove]

low tolerance is bad now

[opaque sphinx]

yeah they said that 4 leagues ago

[timber wyvern]

How about the kitchen knife?

[tough cove]

200% increased is bad

[karmic gust]

still better than 3 poisons on 400dps sword tho

[tough cove]

this is true

[onyx adder]

also db u got ur buff to voltaxic poison spark

[junior otter]

rip that I missed out on mamba meta

[karmic gust]

its hits treat res inverted no

[onyx adder]

because u dont have to use widowhail anymore u can click ascendant instead

[karmic gust]

so completely useless

[nova minnow]

Kirac no longer offers Atlas Missions, and defeating Map Bossess no longer has a chance to grant Kirac Missions. As a result, the Planar Tactician, Solidarity, Expert Reconnaissance, Commissioned Officer and Expect the Unexpected Notable Atlas Passives and associated small Passives have been removed.
Scouting Reports can no longer be obtained, and existing items no longer function.
Yo when does this go live? I kinda have like a few thousand scouting reports

[onyx adder]

huh no not the item lul

[opaque sphinx]

is voltaxic even a buff, what has chaos res besides bosses and they don't even have a ton do they?

[tough cove]

doesnt most stuff have 0 chaos res

[karmic gust]

ah lol

[short prairie]

Where’s the new Reliquarian Ascendancy Class preview

[karmic gust]

i mean ngl i dont think you need to care about widowhaila nyway

with spark

just fury valve

[onyx adder]

that item doesnt have text on it its just a bow with conversion

[tough cove]

and given that doesnt like despair set pretty much everyhting negative

[junior otter]

Feels like this is a bit of a nerf patch to me

[hazy kiln]

Monday

[junior otter]

Not that I have a problem with that necessarily

[opaque sphinx]

isn't just using despair the literal same as using voltaxic but better in most cases?

[karmic gust]

yea the voltaxic change is kinad useless

[short prairie]

Got it

[karmic gust]

-60 chaos res on most of stuff

that mattersr

which is like fine

but not great

[timber wyvern]

Guys convert to the church of Holy Strike Guardian

[hexed mountain]

Normal viper strike is straight out better than mamba for poison now

[nova minnow]

As a Harbinger researcher, the text here translates to: "ur mom gae"

[gritty garnet]

the howlcrackheads stole all the copper and made a dome with it

[karmic gust]

well ok lets not go that far

[opaque sphinx]

yeah thats neat but ur swapping ur whole weapon for an extra curse and i dont think thats value \

[karmic gust]

normal viper strike is still trash gem

[hexed mountain]

I mean it can clear and it got actual dps after ramp

[timber wyvern]

Everything is trash

[hexed mountain]

Its still not good but its less shit than mamba

[hard cliff]

Did armegedon brand get nerfed cause of elementalist golems ?

[timber wyvern]

Throw the whole game away

[hard cliff]

With PBOD dead it might be time for ARMA GAMING

[opaque sphinx]

it translates to "buy any and every annul u can as early as u can before ppl use their eyes and realize annuls are more rare than divines now"

[hexed mountain]

Aint no way. Arma is Ay too low dps

[hazy kiln]

this does work btw, if you apply multiple poisons at the same time low tolerance works on all

[karmic gust]

oh rly? interesting

[onyx adder]

Oh come on do u have ur own triggered ability

[opaque sphinx]

annuls were already just as rare, if not more rare than div/ex in the global pool
nothing in notes no mention an increase of them
50c annuls bois

[bold scarab]

its just mamba that got gutted

[onyx adder]

Make wtd unhappy if he was happy recently

[hazy kiln]

sir that does not use the words when, whenever or at and is therefore not a triggered ability

[spiral venture]

Guys let's delete the most iconic part of the game via Awakened gems and replace them with some Greater gems dude what the fuck

[bold scarab]

because of the poison limit line

[slow sonnet]

?

[onyx adder]

Idk about that im pretty triggered rn

[bold scarab]

well that explains why low tollerance got nerfed

[karmic gust]

since when are awakened gems iconic in any way

[slow sonnet]

I don't think Woke gems are in the top 10 iconic poe things

[bold scarab]

that doesnt explain why mamba had to get screwed over by it tho

[hexed mountain]

I wish it was holy strike we got the damage for . Like everytime with minions starting holy strike will basically be "coinflip the minions got damage"

[hard cliff]

Armageddon Brand or Firestorm totems what do you guys think ?

[drowsy eagle]

Armageddon Brand totem

[opaque sphinx]

i think u wait to see the numbers on sht

[bold scarab]

selfcast or bust

[karmic gust]

firestorm of meteors at least i assume

[opal ingot]

because ggg knew i was gonna play mamba this league

[hard cliff]

Hmmmmmmm

[simple stag]

somebody tell me what to play ill bark

[bold scarab]

i mean i wasnt ... and now i definately wont

[steel light]

Viper Strike of the Mamba: Now has 30% less Attack Speed if Dual Wielding and Each Weapon Hits separately if Dual Wielding, dealing 20% less Damage (matching regular Viper Strike). It also now has Cannot inflict multiple Poisons in the same Hit.
mamba dead? i was investing in it for standard

[slow sonnet]

Oh shit, maybe elementalist brands will be meta

[hard cliff]

Slayer Ice Crash of Cadence

[opal ingot]

this world revolves around me, in case you didn't now

[hexed mountain]

GGG saw 3m aoe on bino. Fun detected. Mamba deleted

[simple stag]

oh honey..

[onyx adder]

Apparently mamba is wait for further patch notes

[hard cliff]

You're right this is the funniest one

[dusty mesa]

Idk what to play

[steel light]

i was thinking about this, if nerfed hard time to bail

[opaque sphinx]

my new leaguestart farm

[tight plinth]

whats the highest crit chance you can get on a weapon?

[dusty mesa]

I think I’m just gonna play poison again

[gritty garnet]

100%

[opaque sphinx]

100

[gritty garnet]

replica trypanon

[tight plinth]

claws?

[dim sonnet]

Rip pp brand. Playing that shit since affliction

[slow sonnet]

I will go insane if I play slayer again I need something good

[tight plinth]

oh true

[karmic gust]

also i did not knew static strike was targetting chests before thats funny

[ebon cobalt]

Are there still twitch drops now? Missed the livestream

[gritty garnet]

highest single target skill in vault of atziri

[dusty mesa]

DB anything big change about SA with new stuff?

[karmic gust]

not really

just swapping quiver to placement speed

base

and thats it

[dusty mesa]

Lol oh yea that placement speed nerf was dumb

[karmic gust]

well its nerf but also buff

so its fine

[dusty mesa]

How buff?

[trim moth]

Citysquareguy gonna have to figure something different to do this league lmaoooo

[wintry lily]

its a nerf with no placement speed, buff when theres more because totems activate faster now

[karmic gust]

the time when totem starts firing scales with placement speed

[dusty mesa]

Oh

[simple stag]

i could really use a static strike league tbh

[nova minnow]

no glacier, no toxic sewers, whats the point anymore

[tight plinth]

i dont like all this reflect mods getting buff, whats the catch

[wintry lily]

Its not the "best buff" but its a buff nonetheless

[karmic gust]

static strike penance mark

[simple stag]

some really static vibes

[slow sonnet]

STRAND REMAINS

[dusty mesa]

What support do I imbue onto SA? Lifetap probably?

[karmic gust]

yea

for sure

[surreal musk]

accel shrine belt how many mirrors

[karmic gust]

and manaforged for the other 6l on roa

and ez gg

[bold scarab]

ignite prolif lvl 1 uwu

[dusty mesa]

I didn’t even think about that

[tight plinth]

cws bros mad they can longer make gruelling ulti trivial

[karmic gust]

all of them

that belt is so broken

[nova minnow]

Ultimatum
Added a modifier to Ultimatums that prevents players being able to Block.
Because fuuuk u

[dusty mesa]

Are other “cast on” supports also able to be imbued?

[karmic gust]

no clue but it just says support gem

so i assume so no reason to limit those

[night bone]

Man, I can't wait to see what weird thing mirage adds to harvest

[finite quail]

already shown, its a new lifeforce currency

[dusty mesa]

Do we know for sure that belt can roll other shrines?

[karmic gust]

we dont

[wintry lily]

If it could it would be absurd.

[tight plinth]

they should not have fixed it like that tbh, i think they shoulda just made the ruin mob unblockable instead of all the mobs

[nova minnow]

All Awakened Support Gems can no longer be obtained, except for Awakened Empower, Awakened Enlighten and Awakened Enhance.
What the fuk

[finite quail]

@night bone

[wintry lily]

Im straight up assuming its just those 2 shrines

[night bone]

oh my... where was that revealed?

[bold scarab]

if it did its only 2

[dusty mesa]

Idk why I’m asking anyway. I’m either playing poison wander or SA totems

[surreal musk]

yes , they said it rolls 1 offensive and 1 defensive shrine

[dusty mesa]

So my belt is something else

[nova minnow]

Whats the diff between awakened and exceptional

[karmic gust]

oh did not even noticed this change

holy

[wintry lily]

one is awakened, one is exceptional

[karmic gust]

i can loot now!

[tight plinth]

i have so many tabs open

[karmic gust]

thanks ggg

[finite quail]

the awakened gem variants will be greater ones now

[sage falcon]

o this is incredible

[potent bramble]

Someone in Ziz's chat claimed to have talked to a GGG employee & that they said it rolls one offensive and one defensive shrine. Ziz seemed to take it at face value. But the chatter didn't specify who they talked to or how they talked to them, so I'm extremely skeptical

[bold scarab]

technically nothing ... awakened gems are moved into the exceptional pool ... and then they add more of them

[finite quail]

BIG, can finally loot in peace

[wintry lily]

Yeah and I can claim that my father works at ggg

[kindred silo]

dont worry my uncle works at gg

[bold scarab]

its kinda a more shittier version of poe2 lineage gems

[dusty mesa]

Is acceleration shrine defensive?

[potent bramble]

My point exactly - cannot and would not claim they were legit, only saying what I saw

[nova minnow]

fuk

[dusty mesa]

Action speed is all rounder

[karmic gust]

ah accel divine shrine

[wintry lily]

not getting hit is the strongest defense after all.

[karmic gust]

gg

[wintry lily]

imagine being able to roll divine shrine.

[finite quail]

If the belt can roll from any of the base shrines in maps, that belt is BUSTED as fuck

[bold scarab]

no way we can roll all stat boost/invincibility shrines right?

[opaque sphinx]

immortality the belt

[dusty mesa]

Accel and echo if there isn’t a limit

[bold scarab]

XD

[wintry lily]

No amount of mirrors would be able to buy a divine shrine belt

[karmic gust]

yea i mean im joking i heavily doubt it can roll divine shrine lmao

[finite quail]

obviously not divine shrine

it'll probably be locked to the campaign shrines

[karmic gust]

but yea if it can roll accel its alraedy better than mageblood

[dusty mesa]

Genuinely it would instantly enter my belt slot and never leave it

[karmic gust]

because of the bloodline

[finite quail]

none like echoing for example

[karmic gust]

so yea

good belt

[wintry lily]

Honestly i'd probably run the shrine belt on anything build not pathfinder

[bold scarab]

accel would be on par with mageblood

[karmic gust]

nah

betterr

[finite quail]

what bloodline, nameless for +1 ring?

[karmic gust]

because of bloodline

yes

[potent bramble]

Honestly even if it can't roll other shrines, it seems busted. Resistance shrine is 50% ele res and 10% max res, and crit shine is 100% crit chance. All that on a belt is kinda bananas

[kindred silo]

just run 5 life flasks smh

[finite quail]

it IS busted

[wintry lily]

I mean.............

[final owl]

presumably the top tier shrine rolls are going to be really low weight?

[bold scarab]

i mean or you could just ... use it and alos use 5 utility flasks on top of it

[finite quail]

they all gotta be instant life flasks cause having a life flask slowly regenning ur hp is a flask active

[wintry lily]

I might do that on pconc if i somehow got that belt?

[kindred silo]

i dont see the problem

[wintry lily]

the real question is, does shrine effect uniques affect the belt's shrine effects

[kindred silo]

just run 5 intsta life flasks on pf

[bold scarab]

yes

100% chance it does

[karmic gust]

just use 5 writhing jars

[wintry lily]

@karmic gust do we slam this man for such heresy

[karmic gust]

simple

[finite quail]

It probably does

shrine buff effect on items and such is pretty clear about it

[wintry lily]

gull prices going up again

[bold scarab]

if it works on guardians passive it will work on the belt

[ocean tangle]

Does that belt got all type of shrine or just crit and resist

[wintry lily]

we dont know

[final owl]

we don't know the full list of possible shrines

[wintry lily]

But with just crit and resist it's already strong as shit

[bold scarab]

they gutted guardian shrine passive

[dusty mesa]

Easiest 90 max res ever either way

[potent bramble]

With FRoSS being my go-to plan, I'm actually wondering if there'd be a way to get Diamond/Impenetrable. Guaranteed crit saves me a lot of effort to crit cap, and 100% increased armour/evasion/max ES is beyond busted on that build

[final owl]

I wonder if evo shrine will be possible

[dusty mesa]

Doubt

[wintry lily]

imagine double evo shrine lol

[bold scarab]

it already wasnt good but now it can only filter through the 4 worst shrines

[kindred silo]

charge shrine is also kinda broken

[bold scarab]

the proc shrines and the summon shrine

[potent bramble]

Did they say where the belt drops? Not sure if I missed/forgot or if they just didn't say

[wintry lily]

didnt say

[surreal musk]

new boss

[wintry lily]

i must be blind then if they did say

[stable breach]

golemancers on suicide watch

[wintry lily]

oh damn

[normal hedge]

mirage boss prolly

[stable breach]

cws is dead now it's crazy

[bold scarab]

BTW oof

Resonating Shrine no longer grants a bonus per power, frenzy and endurance charge, instead now granting an additional maximum power, frenzy and endurance charge. This shrine still grants random charge generation on hit and on kill.

[potent bramble]

If the idea is to make it an anti-Mageblood belt, I feel like it's gotta be global drop

[karmic gust]

this was long time coming idk why it took so long ngl

[potent bramble]

But maybe not, who knows

[dusty mesa]

I mean, discharge build though 👀

[nova minnow]

Call it WarriorBlood

[wintry lily]

i think it dropped off for a bit until cws picked back up again

[onyx adder]

because only one build uses it right now

[night bone]

holy crap this eclipse is really cool

[wintry lily]

Like yeah it was good, but people realized they didn't really need it with defiance of destiny existing.

[bold scarab]

ig

[tawdry olive]

> Portal: No longer has its casting interrupted by self-damage

LMAO

[onyx adder]

more builds easily could but they want the 4% dps and 3% ehp from whatever boring jewels they were using instead

[drifting tangle]

Does resonating shrine double the buffs we get from charges?

[bold scarab]

no

[final owl]

does CWS nerf mean no more azadi glad afk ulti

[wintry lily]

ulti has no block shit

[mental epoch]

I think the way that change reads is that when a random shrine effect is given, for those 3 shrine effects listed, it'll instead grant the greater form of those specific shrines. Not that it only rolls those three shrine effects.

[tacit raft]

Well, GGG can't get everything right. They had to do one bad change :(

[sand glen]

probably not afk but it will still be played

[wintry lily]

Im not sure if its a modifier you can pick, or its a modifier thats just in there now.

[dusty mesa]

I mean resonating shrine now gives discharge viability at lower budget At least. Well, that depends on the belt price lol

[drifting tangle]

How will it interact with jugg notable granting +1 add phys an ele reduction per charge?

[bold scarab]

OH nvm eh still useless outside of meme gull builds

[hard cliff]

Cause of the auto crit ?

[bold scarab]

20% chance to gain a Power, Frenzy or Endurance Charge on Hit
60% chance to gain a Power, Frenzy or Endurance Charge on Kill
50% increased Critical Strike Chance per Power Charge
4% increased Attack Speed per Frenzy Charge
4% increased Cast Speed per Frenzy Charge
4% more Damage per Frenzy Charge
4% additional Physical Damage Reduction per Endurance Charge
4% additional Elemental Damage Reduction per Endurance Charge
5% increased Damage per Frenzy, Power or Endurance Charge

[final owl]

oh right, i guess multiple nerfs to that setup is expected. so reduced block chance is in the ulti mod poool or whatever. ic ic

[hard cliff]

HOOOOOOOLY SHIT

[bold scarab]

it doesnt double ... it just adds a flat ammount ... now it doesnt do any of that

[short prairie]

Tanky flicker

[bold scarab]

now it just adds +1 to max and nothing else

[wintry lily]

idk if its straight up reduced, says there "prevents"

[dusty mesa]

+Max charges and charge gain on hit and kills

[hard cliff]

That's from the no flask belt ?!

[drifting tangle]

Oh they changed resonating shrine damn

[wintry lily]

I mean, it did suck from the pov of ggg that the only people farming ultimatum mostly was afkers

[final owl]

right. well. detail doesn't really matter i guess. sounds like afk ulti is deadge

[dusty mesa]

That’s from resonating shrine

New resonating shrine

[mental epoch]

meme gull + blunderbore build with new belt and nameless bloodline for 3rd ring is going to be FUN

[wintry lily]

I understand why ggg did it at least even if i dont agree

[bold scarab]

thats the old/current one ... the new one is just chance to gain charges and +1 max chargees

[dusty mesa]

But if belt rolls it, it could be something for discharge

[drifting tangle]

Can we no longer get accelerating shrine from guardian notable?

[kindred silo]

they just changed the 3 they mentioned, everything else is the same

[bold scarab]

lol

[drifting tangle]

Ah cool so shrine stacking isn't dead

[short prairie]

Gluttony of elements is insane right?

[mental epoch]

If I'm understanding the change its just that the 3 listed shrines will give the greater form instead of the regular one

[potent bramble]

Tinctures count as flasks, right? In terms of like 'no flask effect'?

[drifting tangle]

Also will be able to roll the shrines granted from the new belt?

[wintry lily]

tinctures are indeed not flasks

[tawdry olive]

Earthshatter, autoexertion, overexertion nerfed bois, looks like I’m changing my starter. At least it’s a double tap instead of triple tap, unless I missed another system nerf to slams somewhere

[wintry lily]

its time to allocate beef again /s

[mental epoch]

I think and hope itll be like shako, Cant reroll and will have to drop them until you get the right combo

[hard cliff]

thank you

how in the world would you consistly have that up

[dusty mesa]

It just makes it easier

[mental epoch]

at least you aren't a golemmancer player. They got taken out the back and executed LMAO

[drifting tangle]

Does anyone over here have experience with shrine stacking builds?

[dusty mesa]

Lower budget stuff lol

[hard cliff]

thank you

[mental epoch]

Thats all you need brother

[dreamy charm]

hmm they nerfed ES slam what do i start in ssf

[hard cliff]

Storm burst totems

[stable breach]

wait

guys

If kirac missions are kill

how do we get harvest beasts now???

[drifting tangle]

What are the good skills?
I've heard spark is gg with this

[mental epoch]

it's time to hunt I suppose

[tight plinth]

that belt is gonna be busted

[eternal apex]

Just realized that the Astrolabe modifiers (at least the Blight ones they showed) are MORE currency rather than increased currency.

Multiplicative Juice babyyyyyy

[hard cliff]

yoke of suffering berek respite triple Elementalist build

[short prairie]

What’s the new belt

[mental epoch]

spark is king. picking up iron will keystone because you are stacking strength for blunderbore already will help damage bigtime. If you get echo shrine on the belt with resist shrine its GGs

[final owl]

I super have no clue what I'm starting for 3.28 now. did HRoC catch any strays?

[short prairie]

I was thinking the anointtable belt is better

[tight plinth]

either one

[stable breach]

rip penis brand, btw.

[mental epoch]

1 offensive shrine and 1 defensive shrine effect perma if you dont use flasks

[drifting tangle]

I was thinking supreme ostentation, stacking str is too much opportunity cost imo

[wintry lily]

tbf anoint belt is still challenging other unique belts

Its just replacing stygian rares for most builds

[kindred silo]

isnt annoit belt about the same power level as stygian for most builds

[eternal apex]

Just TRiple Synthethize that Cord Belt for that extra HMPHFFF (would be a litle hard, but there are ways to avoid replacing the implicit)

[stable breach]

yes

[wintry lily]

depends on the build but i'd argue its 1:1

[night bone]

At least until MB

[wintry lily]

my brother in christ i addressed that above

[kindred silo]

although u can corrupt it

[tight plinth]

shhh

[drifting tangle]

Is it 1 off and 1 def only or can we have 2 offensive?

[wintry lily]

I would still pick tides of times on pf any day over either rare belts

[night bone]

Apologies for not reading every post in the chat before posting myself

[mental epoch]

Could be a better option but adding str onto gear and stacking for life + spell damage seems pretty decent for me

[wintry lily]

skill issue

[hard cliff]

hroc is untouched

[mental epoch]

Think its just 1 offense and 1 defense.

[final owl]

HMMM. hmm. hm.

[hybrid harness]

will echoing shrine be on that new belt?

[hard cliff]

I kind of want to play a minion stack guardian with the new hallow flame buff 👀

[final owl]

we don't know

[wintry lily]

for all we know, it could just not be able to roll other shrines lmao

[royal topaz]

ooo i can do penance things on static strike to make it deal damage

[hybrid harness]

diamond is already insane but that would be smth else

[opal ingot]

aw what i made a meme video about mamba and i can't post it

[mental epoch]

I think all minus divine will be on it

[hard cliff]

what skill would you use to apply hallow flame?

Divine smite looks good for the damage aura

[drifting tangle]

Max res and perma crit is insane in itself combined with an extra ring slot

[opal ingot]

o7 mamba

[hybrid harness]

gloom would be sexy too. many options

[wintry lily]

we are losing all the other affixes the flasks can give tho

[mental epoch]

Think Resistance + echo shrine is BIS

[hard cliff]

he dead

[glacial orchid]

How are people going to get ivl 86 base types now that the tree has been nerfed for that?

[finite quail]

mmmm yes 150% increased effect of diamond shrine for crit overcap kek

[mental epoch]

2 perma shrine effects + 3rd ring from nameless clears the util flasks

[hybrid harness]

echo on wilma's is a looooot of attack speed

[tight plinth]

diamond shrine + destructive link for party play

[mental epoch]

On belt, the idea would be to get echo and resistsnce shrine effects. Not diamond

[finite quail]

playing the videogame

[kindred silo]

echo is more cast speed tho

[hybrid harness]

is it incr/red only?

[glacial orchid]

using the tree was also playing the video game 😔

[kindred silo]

ya

[deep ingot]

Atzoatl is next to Arsenal. That’s not even remotely a jungle

[hybrid harness]

damn

[drifting tangle]

Crit is meh compared to 260% more attack and cast speed along with repeat

[wintry lily]

I mean im not arguing against that, im arguing that you will still have to solve what mageblood provides such as stun immune, ele ail immune, curse immune etc and the ability to run progenesis

[night bone]

stop poking holes

[opal ingot]

im seeing vids from hours ago with no poe vid though. i might be safe

[wintry lily]

If it can roll other shrines, then i'll definitely say it ez clears

because crit shrine isn't exactly desireable on all builds

and there's no indication other than someone claiming "my uncle said so"

So tl:dr : wait for more notes

[hard cliff]

it's a good meme

[deep ingot]

Crit shrine is build enabling though

[final owl]

if it can be as powerful as it sounds, it being shako-style and not div re-rollable kinda makes sense to me

[wintry lily]

not desireable on all builds.

[opal ingot]

🥹

[final owl]

which will just mean the best shrine combos will be giga expensive

[surreal musk]

assuming it can roll multiple shines theres no way div rerolls the shrines, itd be like WE /shako

[tired gate]

TR in 2026

[wintry lily]

I fully believe its closer to being shako styled if it can roll for other shrines

[night bone]

does battlemage work on skills cast by mines?

[deep ingot]

Yeah

[wintry lily]

Imagine if it doesn't oh lord. The amount of op belt combos

[night bone]

woah

[cobalt blade]

im so hoping that belt rolls accel shrine for the proj speed for spark

[final owl]

but i guess on the other hand, it will mean less desirable shrine combos will be cheap and might be useful / novel

[surreal musk]

that belt better be like 1 in 50 from uber only

[deep ingot]

I played energy blade Ice Spear mines during keepers and it was comfy

[opal ingot]

speaking of less desirable, i bet they'll also add lesser shrines XD

[tight plinth]

which uber is it from?

[final owl]

woooouldn't exactly be shocking

[drifting tangle]

Shut

[surreal musk]

its from new boss so nm i forgot there isnt ubers of new bosses

[wintry lily]

you mean 1 in 500

[charred hornet]

But you can reroll shako tho? Except shako have large range variety that it feel awful to reroll them

[wintry lily]

I'd take 2 lesser shrines of what I want tho

[final owl]

i guess it's just about how easy it is to get the ultra strong combos. I assume, not easy. could be wrong ofc

[jagged raven]

so will it be a good league or bad one?

[charred hornet]

We donr have as many shrines as we have support skill...i think its fine even if they do that

[deep ingot]

You’re killing stuff in a circle so probably a good league

[surreal musk]

league mechanic looks fun

[wintry lily]

literally no info
league isnt even out yet
there's only notes
"so good leeg or bad"

[night bone]

who wants to bet you have to kill an exceptional rogue exile in a t16 map for challenges?

[final owl]

imho it will be good just because there is a lot of changes and new stuff and new things to figure out. which doesn't mean I'll play the full league. But I am definitely positively anticipating it

[sage falcon]

most nuanced thinking on the internet in 2026

[spice pecan]

not a super big fan of having to do all 5 t17s for atlas points ngl

[opal ingot]

becuase you're installing steam poe right

[wintry lily]

brain beeg

[hard cliff]

Why the fuck is 50% reservation on guardian locked behind an armour node wtf

[final owl]

The T17s are totally different beasts now no? or are they literally just old T17 with same mods given a different name

[hard cliff]

This class sucks compared to necro

[spice pecan]

not sure, i just woke up and still reading

[short prairie]

Bloon is Chinese right? We are in the same time zone now

[hard cliff]

Goob morming @spice pecan

[wintry lily]

t17 lost some of the most build crippling mods

[spice pecan]

its still gonna be so weird without kirac nodes, no scouting reports, no favored map slots

[jagged raven]

when does new league starts?

[hard cliff]

Chat is it worth it even trying to play a hallow flame guardian vs just playing it on necro ?

[spice pecan]

i wanted to react to this but i cant, literally 1984

[night bone]

templar is an armor-style character

[sage falcon]

i am chinese but def not in china lol

[thick goblet]

for the +1 support corrupt, there's no reason to pre level the gems, right? only need to worry about quality before slamming?
and there's still the special transfigure corrupt gem font option?
so in ssf i can just slam 20q gems?

[charred hornet]

I heard t17 now is turned into like t16.5 but cannot be affected by those new mechanic,so it just nice uber fragment

[wintry lily]

okay let me test. "sohai"

[hard cliff]

My minions don't need armour they want to KILL

[short prairie]

Where’s bloon then

[final owl]

in the matrix

[wintry lily]

cant tell if bloon knows what I said or nah

[wind goblet]

do these buffs to absolution make it a good league start?

[potent bramble]

Lightly related, this could 100% just me being dumb and not connecting dots that I should be connecting... I thought the point of the Voidstones was to bump all the maps to t16. So what's up with the new modifiers that both increase map level by 1 and also convert t1-t15 maps to gold?

[sly minnow]

does it mean shadow and marauder would finally get act 5+ campaign lines now

[sterile crescent]

Woke up, read patch notes, GGG straight up killed Mamba, bury it, and spit on the grave 😭

[sly minnow]

I'm alr getting tired of playing rf chieftains and they're bloody mute for half of the entire campaign

[wintry lily]

you mean rot under the sun

[hard cliff]

Does anyone have a pic of hallow flame support ?

[opal ingot]

#poe1-news scroll up

[tired gate]

😔

[night bone]

I have a naughty pic of your mom, does that count?

[hard cliff]

No

[opal ingot]

wait you're the guy who got pissed ggg triple tapped venom gyre and didn't touch it for years right

[sterile crescent]

Right, not even a proper burial was given. Should have just deleted the skill

[sly minnow]

they knew xdd

[opal ingot]

#1┃general message

[spice pecan]

hogm is fine, this means no more lmao kun and whakawairua

[final owl]

whats that stupid map with the pedestals, i always forget the name

[sterile crescent]

I'm also sadge I can't react, this is truly dystopian

[spice pecan]

uh, acton's nightmare? twilight temple? doryani's machinarium?

[hard cliff]

Hello @sterile crescent

[hard cliff]

super desert mario land

[final owl]

:I

[full lava]

how you guys get double graft?

[opal ingot]

🥹

[hard cliff]

I know the one you're talking about but I don't remember the name

[spice pecan]

oh pillars of arun lol

[warm forum]

Pillars of arun or smth like that

[sterile crescent]

Hello pira

[final owl]

yes. right. that one.

[ember goblet]

your name looks like a ligma joke

[hard cliff]

Just keep progressing and doing the breach mecahnic you'll get drops that unlock it

[tight plinth]

they didnt show the support, but guardian has this

[sterile crescent]

Is there any more history that I'm missing? Why can't I use other server emojis or react anymore here?

[opal ingot]

only in this channel temporarily

[ember goblet]

slowmode from announcement stream ealier

[opal ingot]

until hours and hours have passed cuz we came from stream and big patch notes

[full lava]

one more thing how to get this 5% chance to deal double damage thing i cant find it in the crafting table

[hard cliff]

Thank you

I am not a fan of the "you should also be doing big damage" thing tbh sounds awkaard

[hard cliff]

That one I don't know sorry

You might not have unlocked it in maps yet (near each map boss area)

Wiki what boss it's from

[tired gate]

And you're mageblood guy

[opal ingot]

racecourse

[tired gate]

Got a mageblood yet

[short prairie]

Any flicker enjoyers want to tweak this?

[opal ingot]

yep :)

[full lava]

that for shield?

[hard cliff]

Without data on hallow flame I dunno what to think of it

I like the idea of jumping into melee range to apply it for my minions with smite or a big slam but I don't wanna scale minions and attack damage both

[opal ingot]

ye

if u have crafting related questions
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Crafting_Bench

[full lava]

wut it tells me it ghetto

oh wait thats 3%

[opal ingot]

ah, poedb probably more updated

[tired gate]

You sohuld vendor it and grind another one

[hard cliff]

You gotta go to the ghetto then

[opal ingot]

[sterile crescent]

Also katabasis still dead, why GGG?

[potent bramble]

There's like zero chance it'll happen, but I really want one of the unique jewelry bits to be Whisper so I can use my amulet slot for something else kek

[night bone]

too strong apparently

[tight plinth]

cant wait for f/f relinquarian

[opal ingot]

ikr

[hard cliff]

WHY GGG WHY

[tired gate]

Have fun on mirage gamers

[blazing nymph]

Not happening

[tired gate]

[opal ingot]

though for mamba viperesque said that they're gonna take a look at mamba

[short prairie]

Zero percent chance of what?

[tight plinth]

why not?

[blazing nymph]

Reason in the notes is that the nodes'll change each season

[tight plinth]

😭

[potent bramble]

Of one of the unique amulet nodes being Whispers of Infinity for the 'spend ES instead of life/mana on skills'

[final owl]

they're going to put some lipstick on mambas corpse before the final send off. that's nice 😛

[tight plinth]

why ggg why

[golden moat]

might be playing this tbh
https://pobb.in/UkSDDnyablcT

[finite quail]

they're going to dress up the dead horse

[blazing nymph]

Spite, i assume

[sterile crescent]

Just a more detailed autopsy on how dead mamba is. Not even reincarnation possible

[short prairie]

It’s not even on the image, where did you get that from

[tight plinth]

can we not be on slowmode any more ples mods

[opal ingot]

stay coping my soldiers, we'll never know

[leaden quiver]

Dear god I am still having whiplash from the amount of pogging yesterday

[slate pumice]

what skill is this guys

[opal ingot]

high five, i also want to try fross pf

[tight plinth]

shock nova

[leaden quiver]

New trans shock nova

[potent bramble]

You asked about changes, I thought you meant like possible changes we would hope for. I'm guessing you actually meant different opinions on the circled items, and I retract everything I've had to say lmao

[tight plinth]

with spell cascade

presumably, the better version of spell cascade

[slate pumice]

thanks

[opal ingot]

before we did ice nova of frostbolts taht primarily did lightning damage with archmage support

now we're gonna do shock nova that primarily does cold damage with the new frostmage support whatever

[surreal musk]

thats not a spell cascade pattern

[short prairie]

Changes to my allocated nodes not to the uniques from the nodes

[potent bramble]

Yee hindsight being 20/20, that makes a lot more sense

[simple stag]

So what could this be? Metamorphosis?

[potent bramble]

AKA "Hi I'm Ming, I type too fast and think too slow"

[short prairie]

No worries, we are poe players after all

[blazing nymph]

Battle Royale coming back? Rhoa dinner etc

[tight plinth]

why they nerf foulborn tulborn mang, it wasnt even that good 😭

[hard cliff]

it's new

[simple stag]

cannibal league?

[thick goblet]

mewgenics reference

[simple stag]

oof im uncultured i guess

[hard cliff]

Dude I'm so pissed none of the metal skills are good

[short prairie]

Karen mode activated: you get one warning ⚠️ for discussing non poe related topics

[potent bramble]

Just come FRoSS with the big bois, you know you wanna

[hard cliff]

The mods already have you in chains and you act like this man

This is why our people never gonna be free

[hard cliff]

I don't really like trigger stuff.

Did it once and it was stupid strong but that's enough

[potent bramble]

But we get a fancy belt now, that gives innate 100% crit chance. So now it's easy (once you get the right belt)

[stray sedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/153573935013822464/1363109140594954360/FunDetected.webp

[tight plinth]

how many overlaps did you get from woke spell cascade?

[spice pecan]

4 total hits per cast

[short prairie]

In chains? Can it pierce split fork and return too?

[gritty epoch]

I like how they nerf int acc stack. Instead of nerfing the problematic claw heavily, hit everything related to said claw and fk up even more builds in general

[inland storm]

hi, any tldr for q&a section?

[spice pecan]

rip toxic sewer and glacier

[thick goblet]

wait the corrupt transfigure lab option is a random gem?
so in ssf i have to farm lvl 1/20q trans gems before mirage corrupting them?
that sounds like hell
or ig i farm a shitton of dedications

[tight plinth]

rest in rip

[short prairie]

This is another strongboxes league right?

[mental epoch]

Hmm, If I go gull + blunderbore shrine build and add replica alberons warpath. Strength stacking seems pretty good if I go toxic rain as main skill yea? if new belt can roll echo shrine thatd be big DOT?

[sterile crescent]

I must have overlooked this, what happened to Glacier?

[spice pecan]

rotated out of the map pool

[mental epoch]

removed.

[sand glen]

just removed from pool of maps this league

[sterile crescent]

No love for sewers, but sadge for glacier

[potent bramble]

Got the 'ol Harbinger treatment

[sand glen]

kick it to the curb

[potent bramble]

Fully YEETED for an indeterminate amount of time

[slate pumice]

The map to waystone change is so good

[spice pecan]

god please dont call them waystones

[gritty garnet]

they're wheyminerals

[sterile crescent]

Now map sellers are eating better? No longer needing to sort out map layouts, just sell 8mods

[short prairie]

Poo2 was poe1 test server

[ocean field]

gng have they confirmed any changes for map tab

[sterile crescent]

New quadrant influence is tower influence in a new skin

[eager lion]

Is now gone bros I'm scared

[spice pecan]

you get 1% map quant per 4 bonus objectives

so should get 25% inc quant after you finish atlas

[hard cliff]

I'm not into piercing OR forking dudes sorry

[hexed mountain]

Cant wait to try to get F/F but scions got 50 nodes and nukes the drop pool

[short prairie]

❓ ❓

[spice pecan]

reliquarian is not getting f/f jewels, due to the rotating nature of the ascendancy

[hexed mountain]

Ah its ok then

[mental epoch]

can't wait to load up POB tomorrow morning and schizocraft some glowy brain shrine bow build

[short prairie]

Pob prob won’t be updated till the day league is available

[thick goblet]

honestly it's not terrible, it's like ~29ish dedications for a 90% chance to hit the trans gem i want
just gotta hope the corrupts drop enough in ssf

also im gonna have to go through an absurd amount of gcps

[mental epoch]

wont stop me from crafting

[short prairie]

[tranquil geyser]

Vaal templa map. does still exist in Mirage league?

[ocean field]

gng I just bought the map tab like last week so should return it or atleast try to exchange it for a quad tab??

[thick goblet]

probably earlier, they usually give out the json

[opal ingot]

here are my speculations for the map tab

[hexed mountain]

The map tab is the best tab

[short prairie]

Currencies are more important than?

[hexed mountain]

Meh

[opal ingot]

not really

[short prairie]

[tight plinth]

well if it only holds 60 of each waystone, youre probably better off with a quad tab ngl

[opal ingot]

because we earn 0 money

[hexed mountain]

Just convert your chaos in divines

[slate pumice]

Do you think new sweep will be good single target?

[steel light]

Kirac no longer offers Atlas Missions, and defeating Map Bossess no longer has a chance to grant Kirac Missions. As a result, the Planar Tactician, Solidarity, Expert Reconnaissance, Commissioned Officer and Expect the Unexpected Notable Atlas Passives and associated small Passives have been removed.
no more old beast mods

[tight plinth]

yes

[hexed mountain]

No way thats the case

[opal ingot]

i want to refund my map tab and buy mtx

[tight plinth]

how is the map tab in poe2?

[short prairie]

It’s possible map tab goes down in terms of price to value compared to the others after the new patch

[spice pecan]

they fucking removed poison prolif from foulborn embalmer, and nerfed foulborn tulborn to +3 cold

[opal ingot]

i hope so, or they add mad qol to that shit

im talking AUTOROLLING MODS

[tight plinth]

the tulborn nerf was unwarranted

[short prairie]

Nerfed mamba

[opal ingot]

YOU CLICK A BUNCH OF MODIFIERS YOU WANT AND DONT WANT AND THEY WILL AUTO CHAOS ORB THE MAPS

[spice pecan]

like literally why remove the poison prolif, that's so stupid

[short prairie]

Mamba nerf is huge

[spice pecan]

havent gotten to skills yet, but hoping siphoning trap is main skill viable now that they added a trans version

[tight plinth]

it got taken to the back of the shed

[opal ingot]

got triple tapped and added a roundhouse kick on top of that

[short prairie]

The fbok treatment

[celest skiff]

holy relic holy strike is gonna be a large build innit

[opal ingot]

to this day idk why fbok got shot in the head

[tight plinth]

whats fbok again?

[short prairie]

Cuz it’s way too op being a ranged melee skill

[tight plinth]

oh katabasis

[short prairie]

You wipe enemies off screen

[spice pecan]

katabasis was supposed to be cold dot, not hit based (looking at you too mamba)

[tight plinth]

are these nerfs or is it made up with how atlas functions now?

[short prairie]

Ctrl F, read mamba nerf first before you proceed further

[steel light]

Lowered the bonus Reward granted by the Blight Scarab of Invigoration by 20%. 👀

[soft perch]

only 1 chisel for max quality now

[delicate otter]

?

[spice pecan]

man

[delicate otter]

Didn't they say they deleted them entirely?

[soft perch]

not maven chisels no

[sly minnow]

well well