1┃general

[dark grove]

Lol u stupid?

[rough tulip]

???

[heady cliff]

it does not produce a lot of raw currency compared to normal gameplay

[crisp obsidian]

if every player did kingsmarch efficiently it would have a huge effect on economy

[heady cliff]

only exception is mirror shards

and they do not affect normal-ish part of the economy

[earnest raven]

Too busy at work to read patch notes. But is ground loot saved? Yay or nay?

[rough tulip]

we will find out in a week

[earnest raven]

Lol mk

[blazing nymph]

Looks promising

[heady cliff]

baseline significantly higher, endgame ~same or lower judging on what was shown

[grizzled lily]

new kingsmarch tech is busted this league, less influence, more focus on specifics, i might have to run it back w the boaters this league

[rough tulip]

i see a lot of new toys, i see them putting in the effort, im happy

[past mantle]

Notes look good.

[proud gorge]

I'm excited to play a Guardian this league

The Return of the King

[wintry lily]

I see no nerfs to Sarrow pf

[past mantle]

They buffed my plans for a herald of purity build.

[sleek ocean]

guardian is smooth sailing from after lab 1

[rough tulip]

Now i just need to wait 2 days for people smarter than me to make yoinkable PoBs

[past mantle]

Guardian getting the giant burning guy to be perma up now is so good.

[sleek ocean]

sentinel no longer has a duration is insane!

[past mantle]

No more 20s duration nonsense when you reach maps.

[crisp obsidian]

we are gonna have way more loot than before

[wintry lily]

Man, now I have to roll my maps for sulphite, wtf.

[rough tulip]

btw, did kinetic fusillade survive?

[opal ingot]

the skill didn't get touched

[dark grove]

Nothing changed to kf

[rough tulip]

saw that CDR support and was sure it was gonna get taken back to be shot

[heady cliff]

gmp/gvolley might be gated behind endgame bosses

[opal ingot]

they added a transfigured version too

[crisp obsidian]

atleast fossils are delve only now

[rough tulip]

huh

[dark grove]

But they added new trans version to it. Which might make yoy living nuclear bomb

[opal ingot]

meanwhile mamba got triple tapped XD

[wintry lily]

I yearn for the mines again

[crisp obsidian]

mamba got hit by like 80% less damage

idk it still will deal lots of damage I think, just takes more so idk if worth it

[opal ingot]

tbh i have zero idea about how poison scales but this seems to be a good explanation, no?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rfqhck/viper_strike_of_the_mamba_deleted/

[normal hedge]

why mamba got 80% less dmg and earthshatter only 30% 🥀

[ebon palm]

Map items are no longer associated with a specific Map Area. As an example, instead of having a Tier 10 Mesa Map, you will now find a Tier 10 Map. To open a Mesa Map, you now locate and select Mesa on your Atlas, put in your Map item, and activate the Map Device.

Eternal Dunes finally possible?

[wintry lily]

Oh hey, cyclone buff Shockwave now deals 150% more instead of 110% more

[opal ingot]

who was the person who did PF fross? i think im gonna do that as my endgame project XD instead of int stacking ts

[normal hedge]

nick

[opal ingot]

cuz i took away the league mechanics of 3.27 and my TS damage went from 500m to 170m
HELL NAH

[crisp obsidian]

sure but it ignores the fact you can build a little differently now, but like I said idk how high the damage can go now

[rough tulip]

oof, PBoD also got hit

[gleaming totem]

will support and updates for poe1 end when poe2 is in full release? I'm tempted to play 1 again with all the new content until 2 is free (i bought it once and dont want to buy it again. and i already bought a bunch of stash tabs)

[surreal musk]

i think fross still occultist with supreme ost elegant hubris with es/power and spell dmg/power notables + es tattoo

[normal hedge]

no

[opal ingot]

yep. ill just wait for streamersto do the thinking for me

[golden moat]

so hype that fusillade didnt get nerfed

[surreal musk]

it got second hand nerfs with int >acc mastery and int>es nerfs but yeah

[wintry lily]

Honestly surprised it took this long for low tol to get nerfed

[undone gazelle]

Reliquarian KF might be the play, free Warped timepiece + Grace of the Goddess
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1rfnp9s/reliquarian_ascendancy_from_reveal_uniques_by_icon/

[golden moat]

if u were doing self cast yea ig

[lavish turret]

I'm waiting to download the game, but I know there's an update coming soon, although I don't know when, and obviously I'd prefer to download it already updated rather than have to update it later. Has the update already happened, is it coming soon, when will it happen?

[frosty anvil]

not sure about economy, but this looks great for chill and play

[opal ingot]

in a week

[lavish turret]

Thanks

[opal ingot]

#poe1-news message @lavish turret

[night bone]

I'm really curious how harvests will be affected by mirages

[somber blade]

finally RF got buffed

[proud gorge]

Funny how, every time patch notes are out, the reddit thread always has a bunch of heavily upvoted posts complaining about every single nerf, meanwhile the huge buffs are largely ignored. People love negativity I guess smh

[distant agate]

Map stash useless now?

[proud gorge]

and as someone put it, anyone surprised at them nerfing the best and easiest to set up builds for the past three leagues just isn't paying attention

[somber blade]

no, and they could change maps later anyway

[sleek ocean]

still have maps in it

[somber blade]

in 3.30 new maps = new stash changes

[proud gorge]

"All my leaguestart plans are ruined" so you had two leaguestart plans and it was the most obvious nerf candidates in the game?

[fossil ibex]

as a map farmer this checks out for me lol

[nova lion]

nerfs influence the present people are in, buffs are the things of the unknown future ;]

[night bone]

This community is really weird. I suggested switching ores and crops at the start of keepers and almost everyone said I was dumb, but here we are...

[ebon palm]

Kirac no longer offers Atlas Missions, and defeating Map Bossess no longer has a chance to grant Kirac Missions. As a result, the Planar Tactician, Solidarity, Expert Reconnaissance, Commissioned Officer and Expect the Unexpected Notable Atlas Passives and associated small Passives have been removed.
Scouting Reports can no longer be obtained, and existing items no longer function.

Raise a glass to Beast Rota. Raise a glass to Untainted Paradise.

[frosty anvil]

quite sad with harbinger being gone, it was one of those just add and enjoy more on the map

[sleek ocean]

untainted we saw on the atlas tree

[proud gorge]

I do wonder, with this new design for maps, will they add new unique unspecified maps?

[coral summit]

maaaan

[ebon palm]

yay

[golden moat]

untainted was still on the atlas in the reveal vid.... just saying

[proud gorge]

like, imagine a T16 unique map with unique mods that can go on any map layout

[coral summit]

the overexertion and autoexert nerfs >:UUUU
slams basically dead for leaguestart lmao

[blazing nymph]

That doesn't sound very unique

[ebon palm]

good good

[proud gorge]

wait a minute, I just realized, what's going to happen with Valdos maps?

[coral summit]

guess it's back to smite slayer

[blazing nymph]

Ok now i see the vision and i'm on board

[rocky glade]

Holy Strike Slayer

[proud gorge]

are Valdos maps going to be unspecified layouts?

[rocky glade]

Holy Strike on average hits your target 4 TIMES

[proud gorge]

run your Feared Valdos on any layout you want?

[coral summit]

the holy strikes are minion damage tho

[proud gorge]

Holy Strike seems fun, but it's also dependent on minion damage

[pseudo axle]

they're already unique maps

holy strike with chabber cairn or w/e its called

[proud gorge]

oh wait I just realized

now Valdos are the only T17 maps again

[rocky glade]

No, they can be increased by minion damage, but their base stats scales on your weapon

[proud gorge]

ilvl 86 stonks

the point is that they're not you, so while they use your weapon's stats, they don't scale with any of your personal damage increases

[ebon palm]

hotfix 3.28.1 : We decided to remove Kingsmarch (everyone agreed)

[rocky glade]

Does it matter when it hits your target 3 more times

[coral summit]

yeah

[opal ingot]

ikr

[native token]

i dont i like it

[proud gorge]

the best Holy Strike build is probably a Spiritual Aid build

[opal ingot]

overqual top tier bases gonna be extra spicy instead of just being 3-10d

[coral summit]

cuz usually you'll have like 700-800% inc dmg on a good build if not more, so they're missing like 84-85% dmg if u have 0 minion damage

[rocky glade]

I have a plan
Holy Strike Guardian
Scaling minion damage

[proud gorge]

so probably Templar

[opal ingot]

by top tier bases, i mean just twilight regalia and necrotic cuz those are theo nly things i know XD

idunno how conquest overqual prices were

[sleek barn]

sounds like a good plan, similar to HROC
could be my choice too

[proud gorge]

I mean yeah, that's, uh, what the skill is designed for yes. Spiritual Aid Guardian

[rocky glade]

Also just want to try out the giant Sentinel

[sleek barn]

i would just build it for the minion

[analog nest]

Guys how's winter orb looking next league ?

[sleek barn]

idk how much proj speed will affect it

[rocky glade]

Staff or dual wield hammers then

[proud gorge]

use the new Hallowing Flame node, inflict Hallowing Flame with your melee attacks, and then instantly consume it with your minion attacks

[sleek barn]

spectre probably

[rocky glade]

Or mace? Idk I never touched Guardian since Delve

[heady cliff]

plenty of ilvl 86 sources without t17 maps

[proud gorge]

there's some good staff nodes, but probably 1h hammer yeah

get a shield in the offhand

maybe necromantic aegis or something

I could see 1h hammer, staff, or 2h hammer being options

[solid stratus]

what even is excommunication

[proud gorge]

it's not going to be dual wield hammers though

[ebon palm]

Heist received good load of buffs on Atlas. Rejoice heist runners

[odd fox]

u cant deal chaos dmg while excommunicated i think

[proud gorge]

the skill only makes copies of one main hand weapon, so you'll want to be either 2h or 1h + shield

yup, on the existing Hands of Heresy gloves

[solid stratus]

ah okay thanks

[proud gorge]

could be an interesting way to do low life ES

[solid stratus]

i wouldn't trust it

[proud gorge]

problem is the puddles

[opal ingot]

always the puddles and the dot

[solid stratus]

holy strike inquisitor, hrm
dominating blow guardian, hrm

[proud gorge]

I think it'd probably be good on an Ivory Tower build, where you have some mana to soak some chaos damage, but also you can use Excommunicate to prevent yourself from taking any massive chaos hits

[odd fox]

will holy strike be good for boss dps?

[proud gorge]

I mean, we don't know yet, but probably yeah

[solid stratus]

I'm really tempted to do a dominating blow holy crusader leading the boys

[proud gorge]

it's a strike skill and a minion skill

[vale holly]

What's witch KF?

[sleek barn]

no idea

[lean urchin]

kinect fusalide

[proud gorge]

Kinetic Fusillade yeah

[sleek barn]

https://pobb.in/u/solarblze%231611/IBFixHvUJ9y8 here you can take inspiration from my build this league

[opal ingot]

nerf kinetic fusillade. share the hate

[proud gorge]

unnerfed, apparently still very good this league

[thick ocean]

would cdr spawn more of these ? or triggerbots do we have something similar to this?

[winter vortex]

I didn't the see Livestream, will patch be good or bad? Pls answer in one word in don't wanne read

[sleek barn]

does look like its on a cooldown, maybe just a fixed 1 second timer

[sand pebble]

patch

[dark grove]

Decent

[lean urchin]

noye

[crisp obsidian]

ultra

[winter vortex]

Thx

[worldly meteor]

Sorry for the stupid question since i already saw the livestream but why are awakened supports getting deleted

[solid stratus]

to make room for greater supports

[sleek barn]

bc they wanted them to have more functionality, not just bigger number

[worldly meteor]

What is the difference

Or is it case specific

[sleek barn]

one example they showed was greater multistrike (?) targeting a random enemy

[crisp obsidian]

some awakened gems were just numerical changes, these new greater gems will all be actual changes

[solid stratus]

I'm tempted to holy slam hammers too, the way they just keep going through enemies is tempting, need a good way for power charge gen though

[worldly meteor]

Oh that makes sense, thanks yall :]

[sleek barn]

just go crit and pcoc

[loud geyser]

oh thats sick i didn't notice they change functionality as well? not just giga stats?

[sleek barn]

yeah thats what the intent is

[worthy cave]

btw the 5% cahnce for fractured veiled mod -- is that even woth chasing?

[crisp obsidian]

well more like they will be closer to awa multistrike than like awa burning damage

like it isn't just numerical buffs, they always do something differently

[odd fox]

wtf does crystallised rancour do?

[sleek barn]

awakened multistrike isn't functionally different, it just adds a repeat

[loud geyser]

hm this is the first league im going to play so far that feels like an expac not a league

[sleek barn]

which is why they made greater multistrike target random nearby enemies

[mental violet]

so this says the beast are global pool?

[crisp obsidian]

where?

[mental violet]

with kirac gone?

[arctic tundra]

ive never played cws before, how big is the bloodnotch nerf? was always a build on my to-play list but hadnt gotten around to it yet

[crisp obsidian]

the beasts were global pool already

[mental violet]

and kirac just made them easy to find?

[lean urchin]

the harvest ones?

[lean urchin]

some

[sleek barn]

pretty big according to the reactions of others here

[sand glen]

wish i knew. it was on my to-do list as well

[ebon palm]

Elementalist
The Liege of the Primordial Notable no longer has 50% increased Effect of Buffs granted by your Golems.
Excuse me???

[final owl]

Damn. T17 gone. Fossils only in delve. Golems nuked. And I only just started reading

[blissful zodiac]

deserved

[vale holly]

Why would a Deadeye want to use both Fledgling and Far Shot ascendency at the same time?
Unless the line "Projectile Barrages have no spread" is actually that good (Which I have no idea what it does) I don't see a point in taking it

[blissful zodiac]

should've played slayer instead of witch ascendancys

[opal ingot]

cuz both works together

[arctic tundra]

word ty

[opal ingot]

iirc

[arctic tundra]

so with the wording on shield of light, is that gonna want you to build into minion stuff? what are we thinking

[thick goblet]

far shot no longer has the far shot keyword

[heady forge]

Oh my good God those Atlas changes are ginormous

[sleek barn]

wait lmao decayed voidstone can just be gotten by defeating shaper and elder

[ebon palm]

these are the big shake up they talm bout in 3.27

[lean urchin]

im shaking but it might be from caffiene overdose

[odd fox]

are there 5 voidstones now?

[harsh flame]

I approve your life choices

[fringe idol]

Why when I look at possible builds does it seem like everything sucks now

[lean urchin]

because your name is killjoy

[hardy heron]

Merged eater and exarch ones

[opal ingot]

no his name is killjoywhy

[odd fox]

ah

[opal ingot]

i need a cool ranger leaguestart that's not Roa or la or ele hit

i dont want to be fubgunized

[thick goblet]

tr or pconc

[opal ingot]

🥹

yeah i guess those are my options
or kf warden

[native token]

Just play la on ranger

[opal ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-1879411192175791821

[lean urchin]

i get the vibe, even tho its disabled

[slow sonnet]

Lightning strike

Be brave

[potent bramble]

I'm legit thinking about doing CoC FRoSS again, and trying to get that belt w/ the crit shrine. I feel like it could open up a LOT of options

[opal ingot]

i hate ls

[slow sonnet]

Fair enough

Frost Blades?

[opal ingot]

man im such a downer, just turning down every alternative xd

[slow sonnet]

You could go Toxic Rain

[lean urchin]

try scion, with the new shit

[opal ingot]

yeah it sounds fun honestly

[old meteor]

Hoi everyone, just became a new player and uh......oh my gosh.... 💀

[hardy heron]

rolls random skill cleave of rage

[opal ingot]

🥹 ill check it out sometime

[stray nest]

Where is this from?

[opal ingot]

why does your skill tree look like that?

[crisp obsidian]

wiki, old changes

[slow sonnet]

Console

[lean urchin]

he is on playstation

[old meteor]

I'm not sure, haven't been playing long

[opal ingot]

this is how mine looks like

[old meteor]

Has it always been this big? Like

I think it has to be the biggest skill tree I've ever seen in any game ever

[lean urchin]

yes, but also no.
it has changed over the years

[sage falcon]

skill tree is alright if you take it one node at a time

[elfin shale]

Its slowly grown but ita always been pretty big

[hardy heron]

Also there are extensions and modifications you can add to it. Don't worry about that just yet, though

[wooden reef]

naw its a grower

[elfin shale]

Wait until you get to the second passive tree thats just as large

[hardy heron]

Basically, pick a skill, then take nodes that either
A. Make that skill do more damage
B. Keeps you alive longer

[wooden reef]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pig-fat-kenjikungifs-fSD3yT23GL0SPqEIqF

[old meteor]

Jesus Christ.....

[wooden reef]

why cant i post a gif...

[hazy kiln]

welcome to PoE 😄

[opal ingot]

mods took down some perms in anticipation of patch notes discussion and stream

[lean urchin]

mods, release the fastmode, pls

[opal ingot]

in this channel only (and a few ones propbably idk havent checked)

[wooden reef]

[heady forge]

What the hell you guys removed harbingers? Crazy...
Anyone knows what the message on the patch notes says?

[sage falcon]

we always do that

[rocky glade]

This is gonna be more expensive than MB mark my words

[sage falcon]

ask the prohibited library folks i suppose

[lean urchin]

it just says something like "we had to go somewhere else" its all pictures

[steady elk]

holy fuck just began for poe1cels???

[opal ingot]

iamgine if you can also roll other shrines

[wooden reef]

yeah just tag jonathan and mark

[empty bronze]

what

[sage falcon]

poe1cels

[viral mantle]

how you spell "mirage" ? like "Me-RAGHH" or "me-rage"

[empty bronze]

you should go outside more

[heady forge]

Yeah crazy change

[lean urchin]

mira-ge

[wooden reef]

just mirage

[viral mantle]

me gay ?

[sage falcon]

why are you yelling in the first one

[empty bronze]

nope evil

[sage falcon]

mih-roj

[rocky glade]

Replenishing Shrine is gonna be nuts for Archmage

[old meteor]

So do I just play the game and don't worry about anything specific

[hardy heron]

It's pronounced mirage

[empty bronze]

mi-raj

[sage falcon]

you just play the game yes

[wooden reef]

you have to watch countless video guides

[lean urchin]

just go in blind until next league starts @old meteor

[steady elk]

hop off my nutz

[sage falcon]

can we not

[short prairie]

When would poe discord approve of your bot

[zealous flax]

we are so fuicking back

[empty bronze]

do you mind if you mess up your characters build by doing that?

[steady elk]

it makes map rushing about 10x less aids. that is honestly insane

[sleek barn]

theres no reason for them to, but i can send you the link if you want

[wooden reef]

[opal ingot]

life rolls and elemental resists are good for your armour slots so focus on those when you find yourself dying a bit

[steady elk]

they couldn't introduce that shit 2 leagues ago?

[opal ingot]

were ramping

[empty bronze]

you can also look at similar builds to yours and see what they did

[steady elk]

who's cooking this stuff up

[hardy heron]

Pick a skill to focus on. Path of Exile rewards you for putting all your eggs into one basket. Worry about other stuff later

[sage falcon]

fyi @old meteor there are help channels like #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help

[sleek barn]

actually even if you have the link it wouldn't work unless i have the ngrok up

[chilly chasm]

is new league out?

[opal ingot]

1 week from now

[empty bronze]

starts 6th of March

[chilly chasm]

cheers <3

[opal ingot]

timer here
#poe1-news message

[lean urchin]

if we get krillson in a mirage, will we have him twice?

[sage falcon]

then you need to fish twice the fish to advance his quest

[odd fox]

u get 2 fish

[sage falcon]

that takes forever

[lean urchin]

the legendary 2 red fish

[short prairie]

I was asleep during stream, what’s happening

[lean urchin]

name says u lie

[sage falcon]

all loot is gone all builds are gone and the sky is falling

[odd fox]

we are getting 2 fish a map

[opal ingot]

mamba triple tapped

[blazing nymph]

Well scion has a new ascendancy that includes a node of Terminus Est, so... Your name got buffed?

[short prairie]

🤯

[sand pebble]

earthshatter, shattered

[short prairie]

🤯

[opal ingot]

kf pristine

[short prairie]

Tbh, I changed my name like 4 hours before stream

So it was a prediction not reaction

[heady forge]

"The Templar now wakes on the Twilight Strand more in touch with his faith: the starting skill gem for Templar is now Holy Strike, and the starting support gem for Templar is now Hallow Support."
Well I already know what exile I will pick. Now to figure out a build

[pulsar ice]

holy shit is my maven just bugged? why is she giving the boss vitality boons every 2 fucking second?

[sand pebble]

holy sweep

[steady elk]

the supporter packs are a little disappointing icl

back attachments look cool i guess

[native token]

I'm glad they didn't changed the groundloot

[opal ingot]

game just hates you sometimes

i remember crashing out cuz maven just kept healing a boss XD

oh yeah ,that was regular sirus on my not properly built char

[empty bronze]

they did?

[opal ingot]

take him to 20% hp, he does invul phase, i try to find him, maven healed him, i get to him, he does invul again, rinse and repeat until i waste all 6 portals

[tight plinth]

Aside from grafts, did the int stacking/acc stacking claw not get touched?

[empty bronze]

they said they converted a bunch of useless loot into mid tier currency

[opal ingot]

it got touched

[nocturne maple]

nerfed from 5% to 3% iirc

[empty bronze]

it gives half the es bonus it used to

[crisp obsidian]

Casie is a baiter

[empty bronze]

it's 1% per 10 int instead of 5 iirc

[opal ingot]

yeah muh es got nerfed by 35-40%

[sleek barn]

the claw itself got touched

[opal ingot]

ggg kill my future build smh should've done it 1 patch later XD

[bold scarab]

ngl i think is the least depressed ive been about a league so far

since i came back before harvest in deli

[opal ingot]

i hope there are league mechanics though that jump int stack ts from 170m to super juicy dmg

[bold scarab]

feels like a too good to be true moment and its gonna turn into another kalandra tho

[opal ingot]

ccuz if im gonna spend tons of mirrors on a build, i dont want it to be 170m on all projectiles on ts and then only have 24k phys max hit with no other defensive layers rather than just 90% res and 16k es

[golden moat]

hear me out, ignite divine blast

[bold scarab]

I will say this is super annoying tho

[opaque sphinx]

making good build
tornado shot
choose one

[opal ingot]

make ts great again

[opaque sphinx]

literally can't

[bold scarab]

The Guardian's Sentinel of Radiance Minion no longer has duration (it is a permanent minion) and has approximately 36% more Movement Speed. Note the Sentinel still doesn't persist between areas.
why make it a perm minion and then not have it persist between zones like every other perm minion

thats just super annoying for no reason

[opaque sphinx]

it got taken out back and beaten with a wooden spoon and called names before they brought it out to the pasture for the final goodbye

[opal ingot]

XD

[surreal musk]

they said in qna about 2x as many raw divs/exalts/currencys that arent chaos orbs drop from monsters + we have fracturing orbs in global drop pool + extra quant/pack size multi on astrolube maps , so i would say we got ground loot buffs

[opal ingot]

maybe ill abandon the TS dream and just do fross
im gonna fross so hard

[bold scarab]

i wonder if the support gems you can roll onto the skills are locked to lvl 1?

[lean urchin]

what

[blazing nymph]

Yeah, there's no way to level that effect up

[opaque sphinx]

great now i have to watch the video

[lean urchin]

oh the enchants

[opal ingot]

and after that they did a roundhouse kick on the intstack too XD
but i have faith on the new league mechanics, maybe there's more borrowed power that makes multmirror intstack ts super awesome

[bold scarab]

i forget what the mechanic is called but they let you roll a gem with a random support directly attatched to it

Oh ye you said it gg

[opaque sphinx]

was patch notes posted ?
also wtf <@&174997701513969665> fix slowmo pls

[lean urchin]

yes patchnotes are up

[elfin shale]

What do people think of Fleshrender? It seems really strong aside from meh flat, but also maybe the faster ramp isnt worth the capped poison stacks?

[blazing nymph]

3.5 hours ago, yeah

[bold scarab]

lvl 1 ancestral call on dom blow would be so nice

[opal ingot]

real it's been 3 hours. i dont think chat is that actiev anymore

[pulsar ice]

bruuuuuh... I wasted all this time for 1 fragment

[hazy kiln]

there was a concern that if it persisted between zones, the only way to unsummon it would be to respec the node

[cosmic sapphire]

no, we keep slowmode active for a while after, sorry

[opaque sphinx]

roll map gooder

[lean urchin]

can it lower to 5 or 10?

[opal ingot]

maven on a t17!?

[bold scarab]

oh i see oof ... why not just make it so that pressing it again while its summoned unsummons it? give it the same general mechanic as auras

[whole crown]

So is our map tab going to hold like 30x less maps?

[opaque sphinx]

yuzu pls i want to chat and i have adhd i can't do that with slowmo

[pulsar ice]

the maven interfiers modifier

[subtle current]

one of the map mods

[opal ingot]

oh right XD

[bold scarab]

HONESTLY ... they could totally do that for all perm minions lel ... if they arent dead you can turn them off and store how many were summoned before

xD

[subtle current]

finally stopped procrastinating and did 40 challenges

[opal ingot]

gz

[opaque sphinx]

what the shit y'all even turn off emojis

[elfin shale]

Wait Holy Strike is kinda hype

[opal ingot]

they triple tapped chat too in ggg fashion

[fringe idol]

Wait is basic PBrand better than PBoD now?

[lean urchin]

the clown emoji might hurt someones feelings

[opaque sphinx]

damn bruh welli guess i just go smoke weed and sit in pob and talk to nobody about all the cool shit

[opal ingot]

honestly i feel like it's more of someone just spamming emote react on every message

[fringe idol]

25% more is a LOT for PBrand and PBoD was nerfed by what 40%?

[nocturne maple]

which is why I will be playing ignite penance brand

[bold scarab]

pbrand is dead

[lean urchin]

im gonna join the poor GGG fella and play bleed bow

[opal ingot]

modding doesn't pay the bills so they do what they can to reduce being forced to have more cases of interventions or smthn like that

[fringe idol]

Just basic PBrand right? Not the PBoD or any other PB

[mental violet]

so with the new atlass you can get 100/100 from t1 maps? and you only need to go higher to unlock memories and bosses?

[nocturne maple]

yea

[tight plinth]

My build got buffed

[tranquil umbra]

I assume there will be some rarity shenanigans going on

[elfin shale]

WAIT SHOCKWAVE TOTEM OF AUTHORITY CASTS ON YOU?
THATS HYPE AS FUCK

[finite quail]

Dont think so no

[fringe ermine]

any thoughts on divine blast

[lean urchin]

didnt he hover over mesa several times, it has a tooltip

[bold scarab]

sorry for your loss

[finite quail]

no voidstones socketed, yet there are still yellow/red maps there

[tight plinth]

Munin, its time

[elfin shale]

Free crit cap is cool (Skill+Seething Fury+Emperor's Vigilance)

[granite nexus]

foulborn emp vig probably still available, so could be a lot of damage

[mental violet]

does not mention any required tier

[bold scarab]

idk if it will be good but it will be funny

Holy Flame Totem: Now fires 3-6 Projectiles at gem levels 1-20 (previously 3 at all levels). Now has the AoE gem tag.
Holy Flame Totem of Ire: Now deals 20% more Damage at all Levels and has an Effectiveness of Added Damage of 40% (previously 35%). Now has the AoE gem tag.

[granite nexus]

i think you'd want to gamble a reduced duration for divine blast so youre not losing a dmg link tho

[tranquil umbra]

it will be good for Rolling Magma leveling

[granite nexus]

and you need to invest in some aoe probably

[wild hemlock]

Did they show off the challenge armour set in the live stream?

[waxen hollow]

mirage skin

[mental violet]

o i think i understand youll need a tier 14 map to access a specific pool of maps

[fringe ermine]

I thought on inquisitor

[lean urchin]

not yet no

[bold scarab]

i played it before and it wasnt bad but it was nowhere near average ... expecially now that consecrated ground no longer gives free crit chance

like full played ... not leveled

[granite nexus]

yeah i think slayer divine blast might be dope

[fringe ermine]

We can go either templar or duelist

Gladiator/Slayer/Inquisitor

[bold scarab]

HONESTLY ... i should league start dom blow like i said i was gonna do this league but didnt

[frank perch]

hmmm i might play mirage

[lean urchin]

🏹 🩸

[bold scarab]

cuz kf

[opal ingot]

I WNAT HEALTH GLOBE MTX

[bold scarab]

wait ... i didnt see ... did kf get nerfed?

[opal ingot]

its pristine, untouched

[bold scarab]

yay gg ... i can do my idea from this league that i was too lazy to do

[opal ingot]

idk what to do now

[bold scarab]

actually there were 2 ... one was a poison thing ... the other was something else

[finite quail]

no

[final owl]

So what's the vibe. Are we collectively happy about what's coming for 3.28?

[finite quail]

static strike warden.

[lean urchin]

3.28 looking dope

[opal ingot]

my friend told me not to trust anyone that says melee warden

[finite quail]

YES, we are so back

[bold scarab]

Dominating Blow of Inspiring: Debuff Duration is now 3 seconds (previously 1), and Sentinel Duration is now 30 seconds (previously 20).
this is kinda sad ... inspiring needs alot more than just a face lift

[finite quail]

25 million dps

[opal ingot]

i wonder how static strike looks though. ill check it out thanks

[opal ingot]

[bold scarab]

same for absolution of inspiring ... they need massive buffs ... not just duration bandaids

[blissful zodiac]

FUCK yeah witches cant crutch on golems anymore now u gotta do something else

[bold scarab]

i mean ... you still get 4 golems ... you just dont get any more free buff effect

[lean urchin]

my wife calls me a golem crutch

[dark sigil]

hold on hear me out, what if the new belt isnt static like we are lead to believe and it gives 2 random shrines. that would be so freaking cool. even cooler if there is a jackpot rare version of it with gloom shrine effect. that would actually make it rival mageblood and headhunter

[bold scarab]

honestly it makes elementalist even more the worst golem ascendancy'

[blissful zodiac]

gloom shrine belt<explode chest

[bold scarab]

now you just go inquisitor and yoink spiritual aid passing through the life side of the wheel'

[dark sigil]

explode chest doesnt self chain

[bold scarab]

and have 2 golems

[blissful zodiac]

who cares

[modern zinc]

i'm very optimistic for 3.28

[blissful zodiac]

when u can use mb or hh instead

[bold scarab]

and youll be far better off than elementalist

[opal ingot]

it would be so fun if u can roll other shrine effects

[surreal musk]

ele 1st lab is still insane

[blissful zodiac]

so kinetic fusilade transfigured

[opal ingot]

no thoughts here about kf.
head empty

[dark sigil]

honestly if im right in my hopium it would become one of the most fun and unique belts. i would easily give up mageblood for zoom and gloom(and prolly pay more too XD)

[bold scarab]

and as for golem minions ... ever since primordial got changed to be 1 skill ... flame and flesh has KILLED any hope of golementalist being better than necro

[sand glen]

is this an always active effect or is this one of the downside you choose as you progress through?

[lean urchin]

one you can pick

[blissful zodiac]

greater spell echo

[shy furnace]

my build is ultra nerfed haha so im back to relic or awora

[nocturne maple]

ah yes, another dead body to add to the corpse that is cast when stunned

[blissful zodiac]

heh they removed all awakened support gems

[shy furnace]

the anti block is so u cant 99% block the ultimatums afk

[bold scarab]

only one of my builds got gutted this time ... its a mirracle

[dark sigil]

*most

[shy furnace]

ultimatum has ruin, but u can block that allowing u to fully afk

[opal ingot]

1 of my build got gutted, and the other multimirror project build i want is looking bleak

[granite nexus]

hmmmm yeah, divine blast looks silly for single target dmg

[bold scarab]

usually everything i play gets screwed over without predjudice

[granite nexus]

too bad sst is lightyears better for everything else

[blissful zodiac]

this could be a Templar league bois theres a lot of holy skills

[sand glen]

yea makes the gruelling gauntlet keystone choice a lot more dangerouse for the cws builds

[bold scarab]

probably wont be ... way too bait

[shy furnace]

well they nerfed the stun jewel too

[proud gorge]

I mean, it makes it more dangerous for specifically the 99% block CWS glad build

[blissful zodiac]

nah the bait is poe2

[proud gorge]

CWS chieftain didn't rely that much on block

[shy furnace]

svallin will be cheaper cause kingsmarch changes

[proud gorge]

but they also weren't really running Ultimatums

[shy furnace]

only hte 99% block gladiator could afk ulti

[proud gorge]

but yeah, the reasoning is understandable, the build could literally afk every single possible Ultimatum

[shy furnace]

everyuone else u get hit by ruin then lose

[proud gorge]

including max ruin nonsense

[mental violet]

do we think this is a bloodline?

[proud gorge]

and like, you can still run ultimatums just fine on 99% block glad

[bold scarab]

this is the closest we ever gonna get to a hybrid minion build sadge

The Guardian now has an additional 2-point Ascendancy Notable: Marshal of Divinity. This Notable grants Inflict Hallowing Flame on Melee Hit, You can inflict +1 Hallowing Flame on Enemies, and Gain 10% of Physical Damage as Extra Lightning Damage for each of your Hallowing Flames that have been removed by an allied hit recently, up to 80%.

[proud gorge]

you just can't run that one very specific mod

[shy furnace]

you cant run them afk

[lean urchin]

ye

[shy furnace]

theres a mod where theres 2 xtra levels but you cant pick the mods

[bold scarab]

this + farrul bloodline for the warcry passive

[proud gorge]

as long as you check your Inscribed Ultimatums to check that it doesn't have anti-block

[shy furnace]

its not about the inscribed, its about the mod that u get more loot if you dont get to chose what mod.

[proud gorge]

but yeah, there'll probably be some space for a build that can run anti-block inscribed ultimatums to exist and then pick up all the cheap inscribed ultimatums with anti-block on them

[nocturne maple]

yeah, grueling gauntlet is hella spooky now

[granite nexus]

absolution leveling for guardian got super buffed holy smokes

[bold scarab]

HOnestly ... maybe inspiring isnt so shit ... its just hella boring right now cuz the minions are worthless but still there

[opaque sphinx]

my abridged notes of the patch notes so far, apparently is bad language
honestly i don't even really wanna continue reading past this?

[shy furnace]

winning inscribe is easy u dont need block. to farm inscribed and to get to lvl 12 ultimatum etc u need to be able to avoid the ruin

[bold scarab]

reliquarian is gonna be wild if they actually remember to keep updating it every league

[true tusk]

who ever is selling that can u make it cheaper ?

[shy furnace]

try to pm them in forums , doubt they are here hah

[modern zinc]

lmao

I loved all the changes

[true tusk]

alright brother ty ❤️

[modern zinc]

they didn't even nerf the builds I was gonna play

[shy furnace]

i mean you ddonth ave 12d?

[granite nexus]

i like everything except harbi removal

[drowsy eagle]

is new league tomorrow?

[bold scarab]

ok ye number 2 is ass ... i forgot its locked to basically endgame

[lean urchin]

6th of march is league

[shy furnace]

next week, ill give you 12d to buy that if u really want, theres only 1 week left tho haah

[sand glen]

march 6th

[bold scarab]

i thought it would be something you could roll on them in the campaign

[drowsy eagle]

why not tomorrow

[tight plinth]

"Portal: No longer has its casting interrupted by self-damage." Why they gotta do that to the new archetype man 😭

[lean urchin]

becuase tommorw is 27th

[shy furnace]

not even 1 week left, league ends in a few days monday

[opaque sphinx]

yeah idk man i read these patch notes and all i think is "bad bad bad please delete poe2"

[bold scarab]

i think MOST of them are fine

[lean urchin]

sounds like kira wanted to play cws

[opaque sphinx]

the garbage from that game is seeping its way into poe1 and im soooooooooooo not pleased

[opaque sphinx]

bro i havent even made it to the skills section yet

[molten hazel]

there is so many changes that i cant decide what to play

[opaque sphinx]

and im already so pissed i dont even want to]

[subtle current]

chain hook

[lean urchin]

you hate it because its similar to poe2?

[modern zinc]

I have no idea what u talking about poe 2

[lean urchin]

compare it to the old system, the new one sounds much better

[opaque sphinx]

i hate that some of the changes are, a lot of the other changes are just garbage

[shy furnace]

damn final 50m shitment, only 1 shard lol

[lean urchin]

im sure ggg would like feedback

[molten hazel]

yer poe2 is not something to emulate in its current form its to raw and shit

[warm musk]

Seeing the map changes being a bit similar to PoE 2 wa a bit weird but I hope it comes around as we'll have to get used to it for PoE 2 anyways

[opaque sphinx]

the poe2 tower garbage is literally what they are turning eagon into and thats like literally the least fucking well received part of poe2 like kwhat the actual fuck made them thinkt "yeah good idea"

[granite nexus]

im sorta surprised they update assassin more

[shy furnace]

i dont mind the new map system

[opaque sphinx]

i dont dislike the map part, i dislike the eagon part

[subtle current]

don't encourage them, they'll give you 16 voidstones next league and you have to maintain shaper and elder donuts

[true tusk]

if anyone of those are online try to make them cheaper if can

[molten hazel]

i like being able to chose what map i wanna play makes mass farming the map i wanna play easier that is about the only good change they took from poe 2 XD

[opaque sphinx]

"towers are garbage and the endgame mapping system is ass" - every poe2 player ever since the game was fucking made
"yeah but what if we put it in poe1 too?" - ggg

[bold scarab]

the best change was the atlas stuff ngl

[molten hazel]

brother in christ the chance that somebody with those for sale is in this chat is less then winning the billion dollar lottery

[shy furnace]

final kingsmarch totals this league

[granite nexus]

yeah managing favorite maps was tedious

[warm musk]

God damn

[opaque sphinx]

if u want it cheaper make it, stop beggin

[shy furnace]

from full league of shit ments

[true tusk]

i tried send them friend request but they didnt accept

[warm musk]

https://tenor.com/view/licka-gif-14906784873940801969

[lean urchin]

what is bad about towers? i havent tried poe 2

[shy furnace]

tho 1 mirror was from mapper

[molten hazel]

what does that have to do with anything i said

[true tusk]

wdym begging brother i dont think thats the right word unless i want it for free

[bold scarab]

nothing ... some people just dont like them

[shy furnace]

dude ill give u 12d if you want to just buy it

[true tusk]

what did u say again brother

[opaque sphinx]

ur literally saying "hey guys this is the cheapest item on the market for this, meaning its already underpriced. but i want it for less money than that. someone give pls?"

[bold scarab]

also eagon isnt tower ... eagon is heist or the puzzle box vault

[molten hazel]

but that is not what they did ? there aint no towers

[opaque sphinx]

"Using an Astrolabe on a Map on the Atlas manifests a Shaped Region in that quadrant of the Atlas, affecting many of the Maps within it. There are many types of Astrolabes, and they apply different types of Shaped Regions.
Completing the content added by the Astrolabe will remove the Shaped Region's influence from that Map. Upon doing so, every other Map remaining in the Shaped Region will gain an additional modifier.
Once you have successfully rid the Atlas of the Shaped Region, Eagon will take you to one of the four Memory Vaults, where there are powerful rewards to be had." = towers but more stupid

[true tusk]

i didnt say that i said who ever is selling that can u make it cheaper ?

[shy furnace]

the league ends in 4 days tho

[opaque sphinx]

brother thats literally what ur asking

[true tusk]

thats what u say idk why

[true tusk]

so whats the problem with that if someone makes it cheaper thats how market works

[granite nexus]

holy smokes breachlord asc is cool

[shy furnace]

doesnt matter league end in 4 days haha

[bold scarab]

you do realize that there is a passive that lets you run the same map to do all of that right? and it will just take away one of the other maps nearby instead ... this is soooo much more forgiving than the towers

[fossil ibex]

I mean now they basically do nothing

[bold scarab]

now they feel like shit because its entirely just fog of war stuff

[subtle current]

in poe market if you ask them to make it cheaper it will go from 12d to 20d

[fossil ibex]

Felt more shit before

[granite nexus]

yeah this is literally nothing like towers

[shy furnace]

what towers, they are memory threads, alreayd been in the game 2 leagues

[opaque sphinx]

if there was a cheaper one, you'd buy it
there's not a cheaper one
that means the item is underpriced or at market value already
and now ur asking for it cheaper
so ur literally asking for someone to donate u the extra divs that it's worth

that is begging

[shy furnace]

why bother tho league is ending jsut quit already and rest till next week

[bold scarab]

i still think they should add biome tablets that only work in towers ... and terraforms all the nearby maps to a certain tileset (aka groups of similar themed maps)

[fathom phoenix]

literally who cares lol

[old meteor]

Hi I'm back.
Been playing for a bit. I'm enjoying myself, but it's just a lot to take in 💀

[opaque sphinx]

i do, its fuckin annoying seeing beggars especially when the league is almost over

[old meteor]

Picked the witch since she was closest to the diablo 3 necromancer (minions and such)

[junior otter]

don't really care that they killed harbinger but I find it very funny it wasnt even mentioned in the content reveal, ripbozo

[noble sleet]

So endgame got a whole rework?

[tight plinth]

I do, its also agaimst this discords rules

[fathom phoenix]

then a mod will ban the guy lol. i dont think you guys are mods. so just dont respond lol

[opaque sphinx]

or i can respond and explain it to the fker, and he can use the discord properly in the future without a ban

[tight plinth]

Damn didnt know slowmode also applied to people

[lean urchin]

its just my aura

[granite nexus]

breachlord asc with guardian minions and making sure dex is highest sounds kinda fun. 441 added cold damage and then 43% phys as cold

[fathom phoenix]

cant beg but its ok to be rude lol 😉

[final owl]

you must be new here

[opaque sphinx]

literally not against the rules to be rude

[pastel crystal]

[final owl]

lmao. if it was against the rules to be rude here this place would be a graveyard

[fathom phoenix]

1. Be Respectful!

[potent bramble]

I live in slow mode 😛

It's called ✨ processing disorders ✨

[fossil ibex]

Totally agree, I like that idea a lot. And then expand on similar types of ideas like that that really transform the maps/area not just add more stupid affixes like the waystones already do

[odd fox]

I guess we can make a herald of thunder autobomber build with the new belt

[opaque sphinx]

a small joke about slowmode is pretty respectful all things considered

[fathom phoenix]

fair enough tbf

[opaque sphinx]

i get called an idiot and told to eat crayons on the daily so gotta take that one with a grain of salt

[final owl]

did they address ground loot at all out of curiosity?

[lean urchin]

ye they buffed it

[tight plinth]

Has someone done the numbers on storm brand, is it a buff or is it pretty much the same?

[shy furnace]

dbl towel loot now

[final owl]

I had to go straight to work from home so havent had a chance to watch anything properly yet :I

[tight plinth]

I wanna play storm brand again

[potent bramble]

'good' currency is allegedly roughly doubled, that was the big takeaway I saw. I'm assuming chaos+ but I think all they specifically mentioned was that it wasn't transmutes/augments

[final owl]

but the lack of moaning here seems like a good sign

[opaque sphinx]

depends who u ask

[final owl]

right nice

[tight plinth]

Kira been bitching since hes been on

[lean urchin]

i saw more W than Ls in the twitchchat, so its good

[final owl]

I mean I didn't imagine 100% of people were going to love 100% of it

[potent bramble]

Overall I'd put the league details/patch notes at a solid 8/10

[modern zinc]

map changes are crazy
I'm gonna run strands, beaches and atolls from 85 to 99

[potent bramble]

Mechanic looks interesting and the rewards are unique enough to feel different, some substantial changes are gonna make for a fresh feel. They did take Harbingers out entierly though, so it's an automatic -1 for that

[opaque sphinx]

was gonna say lol might as well just delete 90% of maps with this system

[fossil ibex]

Well the meta thing to say is "2x0=0"

[charred condor]

How would one go about freestyling a build

[final owl]

right fair. I havent seen details but obviously this doesn't neccessarily fully address everyones concerns with ground loot. But i never really imagined that particular issue was going to be the focus of 3.28, so there is room for them to look at that further in future leagues eh?

[tough cove]

my only gripe about the patch is the death of mamba

[final owl]

mamba does look deadge

[tough cove]

other than that everything else looks good to me for the most part

[opaque sphinx]

im not exactly against it, but who the fuck would ever run Pen or Carcass when there's dunes

[charred condor]

When did slow mode get enabled?

[tough cove]

Also reliquarian looks kinda meh from what the icons appear to be

[charred condor]

At least it’s short

[potent bramble]

Before the reveal stream, standard practice lol

[charred condor]

Oh

[final owl]

reliquarian = new scion ascend based on scav?

[tough cove]

yes

[lean urchin]

yr

[charred condor]

Makes sense

[modern zinc]

I don't understand why they buffed AG of smithing

[charred condor]

Chat after reveal = 💥

[potent bramble]

Pretty much. Doesn't matter what the news is, someone's gonna be up in arms over it. Preemptive limits make it easier to sift through lmao

[final owl]

it's like standard practice to slow mode the main chat of any decently sized game on patch day

[ionic tide]

anyone doing gold runs (standard)

[final owl]

it brings all the crazies out of the woodwork

[cosmic sapphire]

#1┃looking-for-group

[muted ledge]

This is a big buff to Blight of Contagion. It turns Despair into a single target damage skill that applies wither for you.

[ionic tide]

mb

[tough cove]

i wonder if that could make bane usable as a main skill

[opaque sphinx]

oh breach tree not deleted cool i don't even wanna play

[final owl]

oh did they touch on that in detail?

[lean urchin]

brug

they nerfed the OPness

[final owl]

like.. what got nerfed? it did get nerfed.. right?

[muted ledge]

The tree? It exists but got nerfed

[opaque sphinx]

yeah u cant make weapons with it now like ohno

u cant make weapons thats literally it

[lean urchin]

less OP mod tiers

[muted ledge]

I’m looking forward to farming Keepers. Gonna make my atlas try to get as many fortresses as possible

[final owl]

oh. so provisioning still exists and it can still poop out 6L fracs like candy?

[tough cove]

theres probably more that just no quivers or weapons

likely a toning down of tiers and mod levels

[opaque sphinx]

who the fk cares, recombo is better for that anyway
provis is mostly for armour

[native token]

Yes

[shy furnace]

frac orb will just dfrop now off the dbl towel loots

[final owl]

that's kind of a bummer

[native token]

Why

[tough cove]

frac orbs will likely be much more common now than before

[opaque sphinx]

like gg guys u nerfed the one part of the tree that wasn't a fuckin issue and left the shit that needs to be deleted from existence

[bold scarab]

problem is its gonna be random untargetfarmable ... so its instantly inferior to lineage gems

[final owl]

There had to be at least one major miss in all this I guess

[tough cove]

mamba was a major miss

[muted ledge]

Inferior how? It drops off King in the Mists

[onyx adder]

tree has nerfs to the most important piece of it

[final owl]

gggs philosophy to skill balancing makes no sense to me at all tbh

[bold scarab]

what the heck even happened to mamba?

[tough cove]

there was no need to quintuple nerf it

[opaque sphinx]

barely

[native token]

But what is bad about getting good fracture gear with the tree

[lean urchin]

u should read patch notes yourself and doom in your own ratio

[steady elk]

have they mentioned league challenge rewards anywhere btw?

[bold scarab]

halved its damage and lowered its damage? am i reading that right

[fossil ibex]

Mark talked a lot about wanting to work on it more. It was a great Ziggy d interview with Mark and Octavian, I'm sure you'll enjoy it

[tough cove]

mamba lost attack speed, attack damage, lost the double hit as one hit, on top of low tolerance nerfs, and they made it not work with the new poison ring

[opaque sphinx]

frac orbs worthless
rog worthless
all essence besides scorn and spite worthless
early game crafting = killed and buried

[final owl]

i guess similar to delve fossils it just takes other mechanics perks / identity but better, making them feel kinda irrelevant?

[bold scarab]

so litterally the only reason anyone would ever use mamba over the base gem is just gone

[shy furnace]

only the streamer and no lifers complain, they want stuff rarer so they can sell it and profit and rmt. cant have the common folk getting these wonderful drops too

[tough cove]

yep

[onyx adder]

okay but on the flip side, fuck that skill it can get fed into a woodchipper

[final owl]

don't get me wrong, it's not actually ruining anything for me. But it still feels like a mis-step

[tough cove]

literally no reason to use any viper strike at all. if you want poison just play reave, pconc of bouncing, or cobra lash

[opaque sphinx]

literally neither, still complaining very loud

[native token]

But it's nice for ssf to get nice fractures

[granite nexus]

dude divine blast is so much damage

[shy furnace]

we get dbl towels now

[bold scarab]

ye ggg can be really dumb sometimes

[granite nexus]

too bad fire damage sucks balls

[final owl]

oh.. did we get details for the new holy slam thing?

[bold scarab]

hopefully we are just missreading how bad it is

[opaque sphinx]

ssf not my concern and should never ever remotely be a factor for balance changes

[muted ledge]

Mamba might still be playable with the new Mirage 2h

[shy furnace]

gem number usualy pop next week

[opaque sphinx]

it is a challenge mode, with challenge rules
game is not made for it and should not be

[bold scarab]

cuz wow that even puts the dom blow nerf from 3.16 to shame

[charred hornet]

Fract orb worthless? You cant get fractured essence or some other piece from the tree tho....it just normal modifier?

[bold scarab]

or maybe it was 3.17

[shy furnace]

you ahve to kinda target breach now to get stuff

[opaque sphinx]

yes its worthless
maybe u get 2d cuz helicals and delve/temple items exist but other than that yeah everything from tree

[native token]

But it's nice for everyone if fracture items are cheap. No reason to gate keep

[tough cove]

except you know all the poison builds are right side where theres exactly 0 support for 2h weapons

[final owl]

I mean it would be so easy to neuter the tree in trade and boost it in SSF

[opaque sphinx]

its literally not nice for anyone who knows the game because we get much much much much much less money

[hard cliff]

hello chat

[shy furnace]

we will get dbl towel loot, then on top of that dbl mechanics in the mirage

[fringe idol]

Is base penance brand good?

[hard cliff]

I wanna throw metal at people what should I leaguestart ?

[native token]

Boost for ssf will never happen

[bold scarab]

they arent smart enough to even consider that

[hard cliff]

STRONG PLEASE

[muted ledge]

Good

[shy furnace]

4x the loot! just u guys wait, base penis got buffed but it's just a single target buld really

[granite nexus]

flicker strike, throw yourself with the metal

[hard cliff]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[bold scarab]

i wish i had stopped reading the patch ... i was so positive for once ... but it just gets more dumb by the minute

[opaque sphinx]

yeah lets take away the thing that makes poe poe!
knowledge is power in this game, it is the one game that rewards smart planning and game knowledge above all else

[tough cove]

apparently theres already been changes to reliquarian

[hard cliff]

that rewards smart planning and game knowledge above all else

that's why I'm broke af

[shy furnace]

patch is fine for me, the stuff i love got nerfed/changed but that's what makes poe great

[hard cliff]

[hard cliff]

What's bothering you

[charred hornet]

Nah it just your fav build sucks to farm the meta strat

[fossil ibex]

I think it's way too early to judge what the tree is going to be like before seeing it first hand

[muted ledge]

You don’t know anything about PoE if you can’t figure new things out

[tough cove]

im fine with nerfs, im not fine with them butchering skills beyond their purpose and beyond all recognition

[bold scarab]

idk stuff

[final owl]

if you're new / hyper casual and you think changes that make the game more casual are good please just go and play last epoch or grim dawn or torchlight or D2 or D4 or..

[native token]

I like the patch alot. I'm pleased

[granite nexus]

eh, you have to nerf meta skills if you want to shake up meta without power creep

[muted ledge]

Players like you should leave first tbh

[opaque sphinx]

i don't, whole concept is dumb
its either worse than early game crafting and useless
or better than early game crafting and completely invalidates it

[shy furnace]

they have to butcher skills else everyone will play it and nothign else

[charred hornet]

Wowowow....elite gamer here

[bold scarab]

really stupid decisions that make no sense completely ruining the entire update even tho they barely impact the update as a whole

[native token]

Why people like to gatekeep

[opaque sphinx]

there is no middleground with a mechanic like this

[hard cliff]

":(

[opaque sphinx]

its either broken or useless

[final owl]

I'm not going to, I can handle games that are "hard" (not actually a hard game)

[shy furnace]

cause they feel good if they have and we po common folk cant have it

[native token]

Its just a game. Let's everyone have fun and don't gate keep

[granite nexus]

im excited to try divine blast and then go back to SST cause freeze is op

[blazing nymph]

Gates are essential for mirror crafting, i assume

[hard cliff]

Keeps quality of players higher and filters out jerks/lazy people who don't contribute to the community

I got through anyways tho

[muted ledge]

It actually is a very hard game. It’s niche for a reason.

[tough cove]

people like to gatekeep cause it makes them feel superior to others

[charred hornet]

Still not filtering those flipper tho

[shy furnace]

gonna be alot harder now for bots to farm kingsmarch

[final owl]

So all niche games are hard. Learning things today.

[opaque sphinx]

those ppl can find a dif game
this is just a game
just a game that embodies everything i want and is unmatched by anything else
until random dumb changes start taking that away

[muted ledge]

You should learn how to read first

[shy furnace]

what random dumb change got taken away

[final owl]

I cannot take anyone seriously who asserts PoE is a hard game. sorry

[bold scarab]

they are horrible people so they gotta make themselves feel better somehow ... and as a horrible person gatekeeping gatekeeping i would know xD

[native token]

Poe won't be easier for the majority of the player base if we have nice tree crafting

[hard cliff]

I like flippers if they are selling something I need for cheaper

[opaque sphinx]

??????????????????????????????????????????????????? did u not play this league like at all even a little?

[native token]

I did alot

[shy furnace]

you dont make things cheaper by flipping, u make it more expensive lol

[opaque sphinx]

tree completely killed early game crafting and killed off many players early

[shy furnace]

the tree is nerfed lol dont worry

[charred hornet]

Flipping make stuff cheap? Wtf

[opaque sphinx]

again, barely

[muted ledge]

Citation needed

[hard cliff]

Free market

[bold scarab]

ok thats just stupid ... you dont know anything about the playerbase ... your taking the top 1% and applying it to everyone

[hard cliff]

(Just a joke their is no such thing as a free market cause it's not possible)

[granite nexus]

which line is the quality do you think?

[opaque sphinx]

literally look at the league dude
every knob and his mother had a decent 6link and good gear by red maps and didn't buy shit and got bored early and quit

[native token]

I never interact with anybody ingame. 🤷‍♀️

[onyx adder]

Kira over here hyperventilating before seeing nerfed tree, kinda cute but also kinda dumb ❤️

[muted ledge]

Based on what

[shy furnace]

people quit cause they didnt get any towel loot and they listen to streamers too much

[bold scarab]

honestly maybe radius ... maybe duration

probably the radius values

[granite nexus]

yeah i guess radius would make the most sense

[shy furnace]

that and poe2 started way to eearly

[opaque sphinx]

the tree is garbo no matter if nerfed
its not a middleground mechanic
its either better than early crafting and invalidates multiple mechanics
or its worse and useless besides the odd fracture

[hard cliff]

How hard is Frost Archmage gonna be ? Is it a bad idea to try to leaguestart it ?

[onyx adder]

Ok so its gonna be worse than rog probably

[bold scarab]

cuz i dont think its any of the damage stats

[hard cliff]

Could I just go archmage till I get it ? It's the same stack.........

[onyx adder]

How does that cause catastrophe wailing lul

[short prairie]

CDR support exceptional gem helps guard skills tremendously

[native token]

I am happy about to use the tree for my midgame gear. I'm really glad they keeping it

[lean urchin]

did u check numbers against eachother?

[blazing nymph]

Pretty bad idea til we know how easy the exceptional gems are to get

[onyx adder]

Game has heaps of terrible shit in it who cares

[opaque sphinx]

that was one of like 13 things i was pissed about and i wasn't even halfway thru the notes

[hard cliff]

No I just saw it once on the livestream and never again

[bold scarab]

you do realize they are gonna start infecting poe1 with cooldown skills now

[short prairie]

I might consider cdr recovery gem + molten shell now

[hard cliff]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeah

[short prairie]

don’t care

[onyx adder]

I imagine it'll be better for some items and worse for others, as usual

[bold scarab]

i do ... poe2 flameblast getting a cooldown was the worst thing that happened in that game

[hard cliff]

why would flameblast need a cooldown ?!

[lean urchin]

its hot

[muted ledge]

They drop from pinnacles. They’re meant to make them juicier like the bloodlines.

[onyx adder]

Anyway the important line is the one about base modifier tiers from tree loot getting a whack, because thats the real issue over the tree tree

[hard cliff]

My exile takes his pants off when his balls get hot

[onyx adder]

So if ggg fixes that and also kindly fixes the same issue with kingsmarch and gamba then early crafting gets better not worse

[bold scarab]

i wouldnt hate it if they added the cooldown supports tho

[opaque sphinx]

i fuckin hope so but im not holding my breath

[bold scarab]

the ones that give flat cooldowns to skills but then big buffs ... they needd to be ALOT bigger tho

[onyx adder]

Depends on numbers obviously but thats easily something i could see

[final owl]

I'm not mad. I just think they're making kinda dumb decisions about things going core that don't need to.

[charred hornet]

How to reach 50k armor without potion? The new unique belt looks too good

[tough cove]

radius

[opaque sphinx]

determ + gear and ur done

couple nodes on tree maybe

[hard cliff]

How far did elementalist fall in power rankings with the golem change ?

[granite nexus]

lvl 20 sst with decent foulborn emp vig has ~1500 base dmg. lvl 20 divine blast with both hits is like ~2600

[native token]

People complain about tree is ruin progress but playing trade aswell confuse me

[fossil ibex]

Eh, I think it's just meant to be a way to counter some bad rng for a certain gear piece you havent been able to get yet. If you think of everything from the mindset of hideout warrior profit crafting then sure it's a nerf for you, but who cares about you trying to profit craft tbh

[bold scarab]

worse than inquisitor for basically anything that doesnt NEED ailments

[charred hornet]

I hope its that easy

[final owl]

I mean you can solve all of the problems related to tree by just.. not keeping it? Broadly speaking keepers was a miss of a league. why choose keepers and settlers, probably the most loathed leagues of all time, to just wholesale core all the mechanics of?

[muted ledge]

extremely loud incorrect buzzer

[opaque sphinx]

kill crafters u kill the game

[hard cliff]

TEMPLAR GAMING IS BACK BABY

[final owl]

people get things from mechanics early that other people want to buy. with tree, no buy. mechanics worse. makes early game less good

[tough cove]

i find the profit craft angle stupid anyway since rog has been in the game since 3.15

[hard cliff]

BOOM BABY

[tough cove]

All tree did was semi invalidate rog

[onyx adder]

Surely the comparison is shield crush

[bold scarab]

templar gaming is either going to be wild ... or its going to be massive bait

[opaque sphinx]

rog is good and not broken, rog was nice and strong
rog was 1/10 as powerful as tree and completely deleted from the game while it exist
not rlly a comparison

[fossil ibex]

Yet you're still logging in

[hard cliff]

Holy Flame Totem: Now fires 3-6 Projectiles at gem levels 1-20 (previously 3 at all levels). Now has the AoE gem tag.

🦈

[onyx adder]

Its a little more than shield crush and has crit which is maybe relevant but locks u in to a shitty support

[granite nexus]

nah, there's no melee tag on divine blast

[soft perch]

so what we betting the new belt price ends up at

[tough cove]

depends on rarity

[bold scarab]

base hft bad ... divine ire is better ... and it got a small buff too

[opal ingot]

67d

[final owl]

tree fiddy

[onyx adder]

Yea sure but in terms of what u use it for

[soft perch]

its gonna be cheaper than mageblood but i bet it finishes the league double the price

[onyx adder]

Its pointless to compare to a pure clear skill like sst right

[soft perch]

if it can roll accel shrine + resistance shrine its just significantly stronger mageblood

[opaque sphinx]

1. im literally not cuz the league is over
2. these are the patch notes for NEXT league that have not been added yet
   3)read number 2 again

[proud gorge]

I mean, if it has multiple rolls, it's going to depend on the roll

[hard cliff]

Lightning tendrils got a range ai buff on spell totems

Tempted to play that but I don't see how it won't just be worse storm burst sadly

[onyx adder]

They arent gonna be used the same way

[opal ingot]

i pray for the accel shrine

[proud gorge]

the downside is not being able to use flask effects

[onyx adder]

Its ur single target option like shield crush is

[bold scarab]

it really didnt need it ... eccentricity already covers half the screen per totem

[onyx adder]

And i dont think it compares very well, at an initial eyeball

[soft perch]

the downside of mageblood is not being able to use the new belt if it can roll resistance + accel shrine

[hard cliff]

ooooh that's great

[muted ledge]

It’s not a competitive game so it doesn‘t matter if it’s worse. If its good enough, it’s good enough.

[empty halo]

Can desacrating give regular affixes or just desacration specific ones?

[hard cliff]

Trade league is a competitive game

[final owl]

I mean MB needs some competition

[soft perch]

cuz the new belt with resistance and accel shrine is a lot better than mageblood lul, especially since u can use an extra ring as well with the asc node

[opal ingot]

#2┃general

[empty halo]

Wrong poe lol

[muted ledge]

No it isn’t. Trade is not zero sum.

[soft perch]

where were u when mageblood got powercrept

[opaque sphinx]

wrong game hombre

[charred hornet]

I mean there is a shrine that give you guarantee critical and more resistance...i guess what missing is onslaugh and more armor/evasion

[bold scarab]

wait no escelation not essentricity ... essentricity is the one you use for assassin

[wintry lily]

i was sleep

[muted sleet]

Trade league is just visa warriors

[opal ingot]

you're absolutely right. poe1 is the right game

[hard cliff]

People log into this game every day to steal your money

[opaque sphinx]

wat

[muted ledge]

You have a really bad relationship with this game, man

[soft perch]

holy cope

[opaque sphinx]

you do realize the top ninja characters are not rmt right

[worldly wind]

you can't rmt in ssf

[soft perch]

trade league is unemployed warriors

[bold scarab]

wait is essentricity going to bee the old/new mamba now ... cuz mamba got gutted hard

[hard cliff]

"Channelling Spells such as Lightning Tendrils of Escalation and Blight will now channel towards enemies from further away when used by Totems."

[shy furnace]

pls why would i ever rmt lmao

[opaque sphinx]

thats ssf

[soft perch]

no its trade as well

[hard cliff]

Correct

[lunar adder]

whats good source of good farming strategies ? Are there any spreadsheets or yt channels updating it every league?

[proud gorge]

the thing that's powerful about Mageblood is that it singlehandedly covers your defenses entirely, allowing for way higher investment elsewhere in your build. The new belt is powerful, yeah, but primarily in an offensive manner, and cutting you off from flasks is a real downside

[opaque sphinx]

u play trade cuz u dont have the time to farm 7000 essences to make an endgame item

[bold scarab]

OOOOOH nvm its the detection range for enemies ... not the actual hit range

[muted ledge]

Ah well carry on then

[shy furnace]

we dunno whats goiod to farm now, everything got changed

[proud gorge]

since you give up all the power you could have gotten from flask effects

[soft perch]

no mageblood is strong because its fast and also offers some survivability

[opaque sphinx]

definitely not blight, can tell u that much

[hard cliff]

Intelligence now inherently grants 1% increased Maximum Energy Shield per 10 Intelligence (previously per 5 Intelligence).

Energy shield nerfs

[bold scarab]

wait people use blight on totem?

[cobalt tulip]

patchnotes for mirage have released ?

[soft perch]

new belt with accel and resistance is faster and tankier than mageblood

[opal ingot]

have u tried checking #poe1-news

[wintry lily]

I play trade because I don't want to farm 7k essences to even get a functioning weapon. With or without time I wouldn't do it.

[soft perch]

by a lot

[native token]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[proud gorge]

no, int stack nerfs

[opaque sphinx]

valid

[proud gorge]

this doesn't affect traditional ES stack at all

[bold scarab]

no its worse than mageblood ... it does basically the same thing tho so its more like a stepping stone to get to mageblood

[charred hornet]

Yea i mean that ofc you missing some stuff but for resistance probably you can cover it with new belt and a bonus that you can use ritual ascendancy+1 ring too

[fossil ibex]

You a dumdum? You are logging into 3.28 despite there being a tree you disagree with. You are saying kill crafters kill the game, yet it's not killing you cuz you will still login anyway. So where is the killing?

[soft perch]

squishy moment, mageblood is the stepping stone to a god roll dessicated

[timid scroll]

so we no longer have t17 or 16.5 and meta will be 8mod t16? or normal t16 with maven quality?

[wintry lily]

At best I treat trade as pseudo ssf for things I want to do and ignore the things I don't want to by buying them

[opal ingot]

i kinda agree its more int stack players than es players as a whole

[bold scarab]

i mean are you joking? it litterally covers everything mageblood did except for quicksilver (movement speed)

[shy furnace]

we have t17 and 16.5

[charred hornet]

T17 still exist but for uber piece...its called nightmare map now

[native token]

Just be smarter about crafting and ssf is easy

[soft perch]

if it can roll accel shrine its literally 3 res flasks silver and quicksilver but twice as strong

[shy furnace]

we using a poe2 type map system now is all

[soft perch]

and u can use +1 ring ascendancy

[opaque sphinx]

the literal only reason i logged into this league past week 3 was i gambled a 4 mirror ring and won and was forced to build around it
and stopped playing pretty quick after anyway
as someone who generally plays the whole league, yeah thats kinda shitty

[bold scarab]

kind of but also not really

[wintry lily]

the belt is absolutely not gonna stay cheap tho with how strong the perma shrine eff is

[bold scarab]

oh its on the new belt base?

[final owl]

why would it even start cheap

[wintry lily]

unless its somehow fucking dime a dozen

[wintry lily]

So I can cope, duh.

[soft perch]

i mean yea if it can roll different shrines than just those two its gonna be multimirror for some combos

[shy furnace]

if its common shit then its cheap

[soft perch]

as long as its pretty rare

[hard cliff]

Why can't I use archmage on an attack skill ?

Mana stacking templar melee bro

Big ass staff

[final owl]

I mean people aren't dumb. if it can contest MB for the slot at all it's not gonna be cheap.

[soft perch]

its pretty fucking broken if it can and its crazy that an item powercreeps mageblood that hard if so

[bold scarab]

i think its going to be just those shrines ... like the body armour that gives the lesser health and size shrines

[hard cliff]

Why is this a bad idea

[wintry lily]

watch ggg make it t0 rarity

[shy furnace]

it will be cheap if its common

[soft perch]

what? it doesnt say lesser

[bold scarab]

DIFFERENT ITEM

[opal ingot]

WEIGHTED shrine mods too and you cant divine orb the shrines if it's randomized
and include lesser shrine effects

[void oasis]

Can someone say the belt name

[charred hornet]

Its depend....you probably can divine the shrine? Which can make it cheaper since its boss drop not like MB

[bold scarab]

im just saying another item like it already exists and its not random so i dont expect this to be random

[wintry lily]

yknow what, we're glazing the belt too much, zao is watching /s

[opaque sphinx]

also be prepared for 40c annuls cuz i didn't see any compensation for them from harbi removal

[opal ingot]

ZAO BUFF TORNADO SHOT

[wintry lily]

zao : ts now has less proj speed

[opal ingot]

MAKE IT GREAT AGAIN RAGHH

[final owl]

what boss? do we know anything about drop rate?

[opaque sphinx]

annuls were as rare if not more rare than divines in the global pool
no mention of increased rate on them whatsoever
so get ready to use 5 the whole league boys

[native token]

I guess the new one

[bold scarab]

im not gonna say i hate this ... but it just feels like a step backwards

Assassin

The Opportunistic Notable now provides Damage cannot be Reflected (previously Damage from your Critical Strikes cannot be Reflected).

[opal ingot]

aw crap man

they were really fucking pog for some of my profit crafts

[dim gyro]

welp was gonna go PBoD this league but guess thats not happening

[wintry lily]

How dead is pbod

[opal ingot]

i heard it's more than a 50% dps reduction

[final owl]

That would make sense I guess. but we have no info on drop rate because of course we won't until the obligatory "I did 500 boss runs here are my results" post

[soft perch]

a step backwards from what? lmfao

[bold scarab]

like YES it is better to just never reflect all damage
but it also completely kills the identity of that ascendancy

[opal ingot]

source a random twitch viewer

[soft perch]

????????? how the fuck does it kill the identity of that ascendancy how are u even a real person

[wintry lily]

eh we'll see

[dim sonnet]

Im too lazy to read the patch notes. Did they nerf praw?

[wintry lily]

wait what is squishy yapping about now, i've been zoning him out the whole time

[bold scarab]

we had elementalist to never reflect ele
we had scion to never reflect phys
we had assassin to never reflect crit

[native token]

Tree shoud still be pog to farm a mageblood

[sage falcon]

to have identity first you must have someone actually take it in the first place

or else the only identity is "garbage node nobody takes"

[final owl]

Slayer phys reflect just being ignored here or what

[dim gyro]

@loud geyser

[bold scarab]

then make the identity worth taking instead of removing it

[sage falcon]

identity doesn't kill bosses or keep me alive sir

i get what you're saying

[opal ingot]

🥹 🥹🥹

[sage falcon]

but like

also nobody cares

[wintry lily]

its so niche everyone played it like once

[hard cliff]

Chat what do I want on static strike support gems ?

[bold scarab]

ye that didnt age so great sadge

[fossil ibex]

I get your point but I feel like you're just ignoring that 1) it's nerfed, 2) gonna be way harder to get breach juice with it not being much in campaign or in every map without atlas investment and 3) by the time you have full atlas setup you'll prob already have decent gear you don't need the tree to make for you anyway so you should still be eating good profit crafting for people. Also 4) if it's that good then it's something you can utilize as part of your own profit crafting cuz aintnoway avg casual player gonna be fucking with what it will take to make tree shit out good gear before they would just buy stuff from people like you

[surreal musk]

get down

[fossil ibex]

Mr President

[opal ingot]

fortify so we dont die :D

[gritty garnet]

shockwave probably for even less buttons to click

[eternal apex]

Greater Greater Multiple Projectiles?