1┃general

[dusty mesa]

as someone who likes clear skills, I like the option of purchasing UE when I need to

[tranquil sedge]

afaik this isn't true

[fossil mural]

Or do like 3k sample

[tranquil sedge]

maven is just high-variance but its very profitable overall, iirc?

[dusty mesa]

isn't Maven pretty consistent

[tranquil sedge]

just that u have to be able to endure the drystreaks

[fossil mural]

Yes

Very high variance

Similar to woke rolling

[dusty mesa]

well, UMaven

[split maple]

Maven or umaven yea

[solid laurel]

Don't mention Uber maven

Hahaha

[split maple]

It's different spread on them

[dusty mesa]

UMaven is pretty good money right?

[tranquil sedge]

uber maven's also very high div/hr
but again same thing, gotta push through drystreaks

[dusty mesa]

like you hit a good bit

[solid laurel]

Uber maven can be good money

[split maple]

Umaven you need to get avg number of progens

So need large sample size

[normal hedge]

if you don't drop progrn or a good woke gem you pretty much gonna lose money

[dusty mesa]

you know what is profitable?

[solid laurel]

Uber eow is my favourite to farm for profit

[dusty mesa]

UUElder

[solid laurel]

But on day 2-3

[split maple]

Basic maven idk basic conflicts and shite are good enough to cover no?

[solid laurel]

Uber eow is mad profit week 1

[karmic gust]

from here? either SA or the wander. but wander is super reliant on light radius stuff not getting nerfed

[tranquil sedge]

rly 😮

[solid laurel]

Made a mirror in a day the other league doing it, with 1min30 AVG kill time

Something like that

[karmic gust]

and tanky well they are survivable not supepr tanky

[solid laurel]

It falls off HARD

[pulsar dune]

What do you even drop, isn't it just nimis?

[solid laurel]

Ashes

[tranquil sedge]

dam

[solid laurel]

Ashes is expensive day 2-3

[pulsar dune]

Oooh

Yeah that'll do it

[tranquil sedge]

also f/f

[fossil mural]

Eow?

[solid laurel]

And it's high drop rate

[fossil mural]

Oh eater

[solid laurel]

Yeah

[fossil mural]

[karmic gust]

early ashes farming makes sense

[tranquil sedge]

do you sell the stuff id or unid

[karmic gust]

later it sounds liek complete waste of time to farm that boss tho

[dusty mesa]

wander doing ubers??

[solid laurel]

Id always kek

[karmic gust]

i mean why not

[tranquil sedge]

not the f/f tho right

[karmic gust]

it has the damage for it

[solid laurel]

Always

[split maple]

Kboc and kfusili sure

[solid laurel]

I id my sublime visions too

[dusty mesa]

Yea I guess

[solid laurel]

I've never hit PoF

But I'll still do it

[split maple]

Like midend kboc is ushapers per second

[karmic gust]

and the question wasnt farming ubers just doing thm xd

[dusty mesa]

I also haven't used KBOC yet

[pulsar dune]

And no one can even steal the strat because most ppl here aren't doing Ubers day 2

[fossil mural]

Still need a budget

[karmic gust]

kboc is very inconsistent damage

[fossil mural]

Or to farm your own frags

[karmic gust]

if you position incorrectly then you lose a lot of damage

[dusty mesa]

I just know I'm not doing ubers on regular KB

[solid laurel]

Uber eow is weird

You get more ashes than you do eldritch currency

Because they gutted the drop rate by literally 10x or something

[sly basalt]

4h pog

[pulsar dune]

I don't think I ever did Uber eow

Always expensive and shit drops

[solid laurel]

You make profit on ashes alone on the first weekend

[whole bluff]

Nimis makes it kinda bad. But unid forbiddens could save it

[solid laurel]

Everything else is pure profit

[dusty mesa]

I could always play SA again and farm UUE

[karmic gust]

i farmed eow for a bit

because its like the easiest uber to farm without gear

just waste of time

[dusty mesa]

UMaven was the only one that killed me

when I played SA ballistas

[fossil mural]

Bruh ninja doesnt have data for uber frags???

[dusty mesa]

and that's bc PF and me being reliant on my life flask

[karmic gust]

i always manage to hit the maven beam at least once so i hate that fight

[whole bluff]

I wish they'd make uber frags drop from pinnacles btw. Like guaranteed maybe?

[dusty mesa]

same

[dusty mesa]

I agree

I think that's where a lot of value comes from t17s

and it shouldn't be

[solid laurel]

I hope they remove t17

[whole bluff]

They could make it so t17s drop 1 random frag but weighted, and pinnacles drop their uber guaranteed? And entry changed to single frag

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, I'm not good enough at the game to get to Ubers on the opening weekend. I could technically pull it off if I locked in, but ehh.

[dusty mesa]

I'm fine with t17s

I'm not fine with how they are rn

[pulsar dune]

That's kinda what they're supposed to be

[solid laurel]

Uber eow is the easiest by far imo, I've done it enough times I don't get touched once the whole fight, so I just go big DPS lol

[dusty mesa]

I think t17s should be rewarding but hard ceiling to reach

[karmic gust]

frags always babsically paying for t17 price is pretty odd at least

[dusty mesa]

and that bosses shouldn't be a large portion of profit

[karmic gust]

so the maps are just free

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, I've even had a build that could fully oneshot it at one point

[solid laurel]

I'm an RF enthusiast now, although I've had less time because I'm turning into a normie

I need to make a new build

[dusty mesa]

It's really funny as PF when I can just tank through exarch balls

[karmic gust]

uber eow has the easiest to dodge telegraphs imo

[solid laurel]

By far

[karmic gust]

after you know the mechanics its so chill

[tranquil sedge]

eater telegraphs are pretty straightforward yea

[solid laurel]

It's still buggy though

[fossil mural]

Holy, day 1-2 ashes were 900-600c

[dusty mesa]

I feel like UUE is the best to farm aside from like UMaven

and UUE is so cheap

its usually cheaper than UE

[solid laurel]

10d+ for 30q too

[dusty mesa]

lmao

[tranquil sedge]

uber sirus is fun

[whole bluff]

What if they made all pinnacles rollable and scaled certain drops with quant, and gave them uber frags and scaled amount of uber frags with quant?

[tranquil sedge]

u can mentally check out for most of the fight and watch a tv show or something

[gritty epoch]

Sirus with faster attack, es recharge and soul eater

[tranquil sedge]

i would be content even with just 1 guaranteed frag from non-uber fight tbh

[tight plinth]

how many more hours?

[whole bluff]

And made all sets have inventory tetris to turn into a 1x1 stackable key

[karmic gust]

as long as sublimes are as ovepriced as they are compared to uue frags yea

[solid laurel]

4

[karmic gust]

u shaper is better technically

[tranquil sedge]

just dont gatekeep it exclusively behind t17 that's literally all :x

[uneven gust]

Where the hell are the faustus scout rrports

[whole bluff]

Same tbh

[karmic gust]

but u shaper price is you sanity

[uneven gust]

Where did they go

[karmic gust]

uue is just quick ez money

[uneven gust]

Where's the horizon and harbi orbs

[tranquil sedge]

kirac missions are in such a good spot right now, especially the master missions that can spawn in them

i really hope they didn't fuck with reports dude

[solid laurel]

Hope they fixed UUE witness, it was bugged in phrecia

[tight plinth]

whats the profit on uue?

[fossil mural]

People think it just got into a new tab

[dusty mesa]

UShaper is funny to me

[whole bluff]

All sets should be: inventory tetris -> 1x1 stackable anyway

[tranquil sedge]

we'll find out soon

[solid laurel]

Nothing worse than using Uber pinnacles for feared sets and the witness doesn't work

[uneven gust]

There gone at faustus in the qol teaser

[tranquil sedge]

i know

[tidal spear]

4h until the video showcase thing right?

[uneven gust]

[tranquil sedge]

🤞 4 hours more

[whole bluff]

Though Faustus kinda solved the issue tbf

[tight plinth]

i have to swtich it up, ive done ushaper to death

[karmic gust]

watcher eye drops usually pay for price of fragsalone

so everything else is pure profit

[dusty mesa]

4 hours until slow mode

[tight plinth]

you selling unid?

[karmic gust]

and sublimes are usually like what

[uneven gust]

What was the strat w that? Lava chamber?

[karmic gust]

70 div unid or something

[tranquil sedge]

im gonna go nap again for a bit till livestream brb

[stuck phoenix]

Wasn't that only bugged because of the changes to the fights?
And didn't they already fix all the issues before Phrecia 2.0 even ended?

[solid laurel]

Hopefully

[karmic gust]

yea unid sell everything on uue

[solid laurel]

And no afaik

[tight plinth]

🤔

[karmic gust]

also thanks to dust the shit uniques also ez money there

[dusty mesa]

Low key I may farm UUE again

[solid laurel]

I think ue maven was bugged till the end

[tight plinth]

i might try it this league

[dark sigil]

I was about to ask but thanks. Alarm set for nap time

[frigid wedge]

smh just run uber feared rotas

[solid laurel]

That's what I do

[dusty mesa]

we keep talking about it, and making guaranteed profit off of bosses that aren't shaper is pretty nice

[solid laurel]

It's good fun

[tight plinth]

shaper is my boo

[dusty mesa]

imagine they rework shaper fight

[tight plinth]

hes been funding my builds for years

[frigid wedge]

imma try it next league when reverent frags aren't 3d each

[dusty mesa]

no more phases

[whole bluff]

Imo there are 3 reasons for prices in poe:

1. You take the risk.
2. It's annoying.
3. People wanna gamble.
   And point 1 is not a thing in poe cuz everyone is a gamblerholic

[uneven gust]

Picking up scarabs and faustusing>>>>>>chos recipie

Unless ssf

[tight plinth]

im not

[karmic gust]

they should port one small favour from osrs to poe and make it u shaper boss fight

[whole bluff]

So always sell unid

[karmic gust]

[tight plinth]

i dont gamble ever

[uneven gust]

Oh you mean for id things

[dusty mesa]

I almost always open stacked decks, but I 100% sell watcher's unid'd

[uneven gust]

If you're in the midrage between poor and ritch allways sell unid otgerwise always id

[prime hill]

are we ready for endless delve atlas

[karmic gust]

you are poor because you are iding stuff

smh

[whole bluff]

Whoever does does it for you and me as well, and 20 other people. I'm not a gambler but somewhere, there are a ton of ridiculously prolific gamblers

[uneven gust]

Yeah and i sold a 1p voices on cam

[frigid wedge]

which bosses do u run uber of?

[dusty mesa]

I need yall to stop with this kind of negativity

[uneven gust]

[tight plinth]

theyre the only reason i make profit

[prime hill]

I'm just memeing

[uneven gust]

Go back to poe2

[dusty mesa]

yea I know but I'll cry if it happens

[tight plinth]

i would do something else if there wasnt any gamblers to buy my unid stuff

[whole bluff]

Same. Just never think you can leverage your size to blow through the risk. Never fight madmen

[prime hill]

sure

[pliant hamlet]

13 posts?

[karmic gust]

exceptions confirm the rule or whats the saying

[pliant hamlet]

you didn't trade much?

[dark sigil]

I wonder how they going to fix ground loot? Remove t17s, stacked decks back in league reward tiles, perhaps the atlas influence adds some jackpot ground loot?

[karmic gust]

just sell unids then buy homs gamba ez guarnatee strat

[prime hill]

all of them were trade posts so yeah

[karmic gust]

[prime hill]

didn't trade much lol

[pliant hamlet]

fair, I get that lol

[whole bluff]

Or rather, never do something unnatural for you when you're competing against someone who couldn't stop if they wanted to

[dark sigil]

Nobody enjoyed trading with forum posts XD

It was horrid

[karmic gust]

they can just revert the changes they did this league

and thats it

[prime hill]

yup..

[karmic gust]

last league was almost perfect

[fallow fern]

what changed on bino

the life regen?

or the crit

[karmic gust]

they doubled the radius

[pliant hamlet]

all trading posts lol

[karmic gust]

of the prolif

[fallow fern]

bruh

[karmic gust]

and doubled regen

[prime hill]

oh god

[fallow fern]

i mean i guess ppl stopped using it

cus of the gloves

[prime hill]

hope your soul is intact

[pliant hamlet]

haha

[karmic gust]

well also cuz it was useless

[pliant hamlet]

I came from UO, I enjoyed perusing people's garbage

[fossil mural]

And made it scale

[prime hill]

fair lol

[dusty mesa]

also I thought ground loot has just been rough for awhile, did they only nerf it this past league?

[karmic gust]

surely xd

[fallow fern]

Essentia just got a huge dmg up from what i remember

from the old one

[tight plinth]

how much dps do cws builds usually have?

[karmic gust]

it was bad, then it was good last league

now it is bad again

ggs

[pliant hamlet]

That's an open ended question. between 50k and billions?

[frigid wedge]

none

[dusty mesa]

was it in patch notes or was it under the radar

[karmic gust]

before settlers we just had box shit meta

[tight plinth]

this seems cheeks

[karmic gust]

not settlers

uh what was last league

[dusty mesa]

merc's

[karmic gust]

yes

[pliant hamlet]

are you hinekora's CWS chieftan?

[tight plinth]

no

[karmic gust]

before mercs box shit meta

before then also box shit meta

[pliant hamlet]

ward looper?

[coral summit]

alright

i am awake

4 hours until stream :>

[dark sigil]

Yo do you guys think mercs are going core this league? They said they were going core just that we don't know when they will make it

[karmic gust]

last league was only league after a while where you actually needed giga clear builds

[pliant hamlet]

can I have a hint? lol

[fossil mural]

Boat had magic pack stacking

[karmic gust]

and now you dont need them again

[tight plinth]

do i put increase the amount of firestorm? is that pob padding?

[fossil mural]

But it was fairly easy

[prime hill]

I love clicking boxes

[dusty mesa]

fortresses were annoying without clear

hated that lol

[tight plinth]

oh its poison glad

[pliant hamlet]

God I woulda never guessed that

[fallow fern]

so what buffs on ground loot are we exactly looking for

[dusty mesa]

my mamba build wasn't that great for it when I initially switched

[tight plinth]

[fallow fern]

more quant or

[karmic gust]

yea i quit because i got bored of the new breach xd

[dusty mesa]

I hope the walls no longer exist when farming breach

[karmic gust]

and i had absolutel y0 plans to do in endgame

[pliant hamlet]

Do people not like loot 2.0? lol

[karmic gust]

because it looked boring a sshit

and without the current alva bug

the endgame is just horrible

[fallow fern]

the alva thing is a bug?

[karmic gust]

yes

[fossil mural]

Totally

[pliant hamlet]

alva bug?

[fallow fern]

i though its just some way too juiced map

[pliant hamlet]

What's the bug?

[fossil mural]

I mean it is

[karmic gust]

where you stack 2 shrines and you get bugged chance to evolve

[pliant hamlet]

ooo

[tight plinth]

can i put 12 firestorm, is that legal?

[nova lion]

if the breach will have walls, and there will be a keystone to disable it, I guess it will be failry often used :]

[dusty mesa]

2 evo shrines and you walk in to 8k rare mobs

[steel light]

wtf did u do? 👀

[pliant hamlet]

that's wild lol

[dark sigil]

People got so used to playing coop with the mercs and abusingtitanic rogue exile that everyone complained of no ground loot even though that's the normal stat. My standard ass playing normally didn't actually notice a difference. Actually I lied now that I look at my ring

[karmic gust]

yea, they shouldnt even stack in first place

and it just gives you 100% chance or some shit

instead of it stacking normally lul

[tight plinth]

just messing around, im bored

[crisp obsidian]

custom config: +1000% to fire resistance

[pliant hamlet]

I mean, tbf people were used to old MF and it's just been getting worse and worse and worse until we're at the point we're at now where nothing drops anything and everything valuable is from loot tiles or spending gold

[dusty mesa]

to specify, you get two and don't kill anything or it messes it up. Then once you walk into alva, you start killing

[dusty mesa]

ngl Im glad MF is dying though

[fossil mural]

Working as intended

[prime hill]

all memes and jokes aside I really dunno tbh

[karmic gust]

pelting? nope thats not rly how you calculate that

[pliant hamlet]

I like seeing drops

[prime hill]

me ooga booga

[dusty mesa]

it was stupid that you could run MF on the hardest content as a solo player

[tight plinth]

is not so bad without the config, im just too lazy with making the equips

[prime hill]

me just knows ground loot is bad

me just craft

[tight plinth]

only 1?

[dusty mesa]

if you're MF, you shouldn't have endgame damage if you want proper balance

[crisp obsidian]

oh it actually was LMAO

I was just joking around

[pliant hamlet]

The last 2 years have gutted drops to a point where t0s in SSF feel borderline impossible to get more than 1 or 2 a league

[karmic gust]

uh its separatecalculation, they have fixed hitrate and fixed max amount

[dusty mesa]

MF shouldn't be a direct upgrade to an endgame build

[karmic gust]

so you would need to adjust the cast speed

[prime hill]

idk carn etc still find strats to farm uniques

[dark sigil]

Yeah I think that's actually a good thing. However maybe make stuff drop from not loot tiles, perhaps items that can only drop from regular enemies.

[prime hill]

but yeah

[frigid wedge]

you make more money than the ppl relying on ground loots so ofc u dont care for it

[prime hill]

for most normal people it feels bad ig

[dusty mesa]

they definitely need to buff drops in general

[prime hill]

I think I said this 200 times in here

I'd prefer playing the game

[pliant hamlet]

I play in SSF, and the current system feels absolutely attrocious

[prime hill]

I just craft enough in leagues that I didn't have early drop luck

to have smooth sailing for rest of the league

[karmic gust]

just revert all endgame changes they did in keepers, then add more endgame juice alternatives similar to legion stuff

and it will be perfect

[pliant hamlet]

I just want to see loot strats that actually..ya'know, produce loot

[tight plinth]

my problem with glad is, wtf do i take for poison?

[karmic gust]

yea thats what we had in mercs :d

[steel light]

not legion please, i can't do it with cws

[split maple]

Time for another day of ulti to get divs :p

[karmic gust]

blight, breach, alva, all pure mob drop loot

was 10/10

[pliant hamlet]

yeah ulti's not bad, but ulti requires you to get the t1 drops at least to get t0s

[karmic gust]

add more options on top that are all similar in power

[dark sigil]

And like synth and fractured items used to be good ground loot but fractures are everywhere and any uber good fracture mods were removed from game or nerfed, synth bases were nerfed like 10 plus times since they came out and were power crept by eaters.

[frigid wedge]

honestly part of the reason i want ground loot is atlas diversity, i like stuff like legion but it falls off super hard super fast

[karmic gust]

and require verry strong builds

[pliant hamlet]

It's easier to find a mageblood ultimatum than it is to find the t1 unique that it requires lol

[karmic gust]

and poe will be fun

[fossil mural]

Alva feels dogshit to play

Less mobs more loot from mobs

[karmic gust]

alva feels amazing to play

[dusty mesa]

I may actually try challenges this league to give myself something to accomplish

[fossil mural]

0.5 fps gaming

[dark sigil]

We need more stuff like old synth, krangles and weapon trees to nat drop rarely.

[fossil mural]

And 50/50 on the crash

[karmic gust]

just get better build then

[pliant hamlet]

Alva's fine in maps, I hate the temple tho, it's too static for a game like this. Every temple feels the same

[karmic gust]

i had no fps issues with mamba

[split maple]

Droped diala ulti early in league, only was able to cash it in now due to Alva printing (needed second hyrri)

[steel light]

@split maple what spawns extra mobs like shrine in atlas nodes that doesn't require using scarab? i'm tight for scarab spots

[split maple]

It's annoying

[frigid wedge]

alva without evo bug and beyond feels amazing

[dusty mesa]

watch them add several mechanics that never went core

would be really funny

[pliant hamlet]

ayy nice, diala is a fun one

I haven't seen one in a few leagues

[karmic gust]

alva last league fetl amazing, not talking abotu current bug yea

[dark sigil]

Make a 1 in 100 chance that a vaaled item krangles instead of corrupts when dropped naturally or something that could add some fun to ground loot

[split maple]

Practically nothing, that 10% more difficult packs node topside

[dusty mesa]

vaal temples through the roof

[fossil mural]

Isnt prenerf evo alva the same

[pliant hamlet]

The problem with ground loot is you could legit do 100 maps and not pick a single item up that's not a map or basic currency lol

[fossil mural]

Or is it less mobs

[karmic gust]

less

the bug is way too extreme

[split maple]

Prenerf evo was worse

[crisp obsidian]

in mercs we had mercs giving us extra loot tbf

[karmic gust]

nah it wasnt that bad

[crisp obsidian]

that helped too

[split maple]

Like you crash from too much loot if you move too quickly around pile

[karmic gust]

yea but that did not mattered that much i think

[split maple]

With filter for only belts and divs lol

[pliant hamlet]

My hope is they're going to knee-jerk reaction overbuff ground loot going into this league because of all of the complaining w/o enough time to actually balance it and we get insane drops again lol

[dusty mesa]

I remember when I did beyond, nem4, and 100% deli maps and it was actual profit on ground loot

[karmic gust]

yea never press alt xd

[dark sigil]

Ngl it would be so sick. Krangles league sucked because of how annoying it was to cook an item and the outcomes were bad but you could get jafkpots

[crisp obsidian]

I meaaaan

it was kinda nice

[frigid wedge]

also idk how ppl feel about this but i want more ground loot bc most of the stuff that drops any is a loot explosion rather than a loot cascade through the map

[karmic gust]

yea last league alva reminded me of nem4 deli beyond after a while

[dusty mesa]

this was the league I ran nem4 ironically

[karmic gust]

i miss proper juice

[split maple]

Even without alt, Just from item filter grabing too many items at same time or smh lol

Need to inch closer by milimeters

[dusty mesa]

I didn't know about the bug and only played for like a week lol

[nova lion]

why not? just another way to quit the game 😈

[pliant hamlet]

I miss the old delve / deli farmer / delirium runner triangle, imo most healthy economy we ever had

[crisp obsidian]

give atlas tree support for affliction and sentinels thanks ❤️

[spice pecan]

scourge implicits were like:

adds 1-3 lightning damage
40% less damage with hits and ailments
you cannot attack
this weapon steals your credit card information
while wielding this weapon, your wife divorces you and takes the kids

[karmic gust]

right? fractured beyond + delve economy was amazing

[pliant hamlet]

yeah

[fossil mural]

Make atlas tree even bigger and reduce travel point pog

[karmic gust]

that was one of my favorite mapping leagues

[pliant hamlet]

Everything was obtainable, everyone was able to make profit, everyone fed into each other

[frigid wedge]

i like dropping stuff all map not accidentally bricking the mechanic im running an getting nothing from map

[pliant hamlet]

deep delving had a purpose

[karmic gust]

but ggg is always like

[dusty mesa]

I never got to witness fractured deli maps

[pliant hamlet]

And all 3 contents were hard enough to be good capends of the various types of contents

[karmic gust]

stop having fun in edngame guys

wtf

[dark sigil]

Real af. Never got a single gg one

[fossil mural]

"Go play poe2"

[dusty mesa]

I started playing after fractured deli maps

[fossil mural]

Get a divine every second rare mob

[dusty mesa]

Ritual league

[pliant hamlet]

call me when poe2 has an endgame

[fossil mural]

With 2000 rare mobs

[karmic gust]

ah, i skipped ritual

[spice pecan]

were fractured deli maps in the league where ppl were exploiting to remove the split tag from maps

[fossil mural]

There was this league

[karmic gust]

even though ppl say it was also great mapping league

[fossil mural]

Like 2 or 3 strats

[karmic gust]

but idk i kinda doubt it was better than fractred beyond that was so chill

[dusty mesa]

I didn't really know because I was new lol

[pliant hamlet]

there was no split tag

[fossil mural]

But they werent realy available to weaker builds

[pliant hamlet]

split tag was created to delete delve from the game

[frigid wedge]

i think id quite enjoy a way to have player quant without it being part of the build, keep the diversity but allow us quant

[solid laurel]

I'd find it so hilarious if fubgun gets banned this league for the Alva bug exploit video

[prime hill]

its just temple tho

[dusty mesa]

in ultimatum I farmed breach and sold breachstones

[karmic gust]

he should do empy

[fossil mural]

Temple and abyss

Before they nerfed abyss

[spice pecan]

i'm thinking of ultimatum league then

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[karmic gust]

and just blame it on social status

gg

[dusty mesa]

and that was actually solid

[solid laurel]

Life isn't fair

[dark sigil]

Enjoy your 20 new campaign areas and like it or else.

*We have removed endgame as the prevailing meta was to run maps which is bad for the economy. Now you can run acts 1-10 more

-Ggg probably

[prime hill]

abyss was more like omen of lights/echoes

[solid laurel]

It's the one time an exploit is actually a bug exploit in recent times

[prime hill]

instead of raw divs

but ye

fuck poo2 in poo1 chat

we want ground loot in poo1

[fossil mural]

Pee1*

[pliant hamlet]

We d2 nao boiz, time to farm all 85s, all red portals, mephy runs, etc lol

[dusty mesa]

what if they brought back nem4

[karmic gust]

see we did not had harbour bridge meta in a while

i think its time ggg

[prime hill]

damn we go back in time

[solid laurel]

One of the new campaign area secrets can be reset like the beetle in poe2

[half stream]

Get your magic find characters ready!... for Pindleskin runs!

[fossil mural]

If ggg makes bad decisions in 3.28 its official - they want to kill poe1 in favour of poe2

[spice pecan]

hey woah we stan pindle runs here

[pliant hamlet]

reported for botting

[prime hill]

if thats the case ill just uninstall both games

[dusty mesa]

"Endgame mapping has been in a weird place for awhile, so in Mirage league, we're going back to our roots. You can now fracture your maps again, we've brought back nem4."

[half stream]

Unironically I enjoyed the beetle

[prime hill]

and finish stalker 2 etc

lol

[fossil mural]

Bro

[dark sigil]

Remember when meta every league was to spend the first 2 days farming quarry for deli mirrors, mine crack, legions, ect

Good times

[half stream]

Was it bad for the game, yes

But it felt like old D2 farming

[pliant hamlet]

I mean you can fracture your map now, split tag is why we stopped fracturing

[dusty mesa]

well, you know what I mean

[pliant hamlet]

:p

[dusty mesa]

but fair point

[pliant hamlet]

Monkey paw gonna curl man, gotta be accurate

[fossil mural]

Okay grandpa

[split maple]

Fracturing fractured rare mob so you can roll for rares have +mod is prolly rational rn in trade

[solid laurel]

I just hope ggg takes a proper stance on exploits and not this wet noodle stance they have right now. Because currently if you don't abuse it you're missing out

[pliant hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

They used to have a no ban policy on..basically anything in-game for years.

99.9% of exploits don't get banned

[dusty mesa]

Empy got banned in ulti league for showing exploits

[spice pecan]

not for showing necessarily

they exploited it three times for content

[fossil mural]

I think they started to be extra lenient with poe2 launch. Afraid to drive away players. But if they ban exploiters in poe1 but not poe2 people will complain. So now poe1 exploiters get the same treatment as poe2

[pliant hamlet]

Empy and brothers card got banned

[dark sigil]

Well you know what they say.
Exploit hard, exploit fast then hope they allow it to slide and nerf it before anyone else can take advantage

[pliant hamlet]

outside of that, all the public bans have been for macros/botting

[hard cliff]

Do you think GGG will bring back raider as a mirage class?

[solid laurel]

Yes, and how many years ago was that?

[fossil mural]

You click it but its deadeye

[dusty mesa]

too many to count

[dark sigil]

Raider coming back as a merc

[fossil mural]

Poe2 in 0.2 got bans for exploits

[prime hill]

welcome to poe

[pliant hamlet]

I want TOTA back 🙁

[solid laurel]

I had a crisis when I checked when eow/searing was added

[fossil mural]

Thats the last one

[prime hill]

exploit often, exploit early

[narrow yoke]

all roads lead to deadeye

[dusty mesa]

go back to tft

[prime hill]

just have the knowledge to see if it's bannable or not

[dusty mesa]

nah but tota was chill

[solid laurel]

I enjoy tota

Minus

SILVERY COMET

[pliant hamlet]

what makes you think I ever left tft

[solid laurel]

Poe TFT or tft

[hard cliff]

Phrecia is back but it is a Phrecia ascendancy merc that you level up 👏🏻

[empty canyon]

Don't You guys love it when your fart makes 3 different tones

[fossil mural]

I got banned in tft for my profile

[dusty mesa]

I like mechanics that dont really require builds sometimes like TOTA and blight

[pliant hamlet]

league tft lol

[fossil mural]

I feel like those are the worst kinds

[dusty mesa]

I did and just came back recently. I have not idea about this set

[solid laurel]

I'm master in double up

Game consumes too much of my life

[dusty mesa]

they're enjoyable some leagues to me

[prime hill]

well yeah

[pliant hamlet]

this sets cool but mods are here 👀

[prime hill]

normal blight doesnt need a build

[dusty mesa]

Most of the time I do things that require builds though

[prime hill]

but its boring

[empty canyon]

Who else got TFT permabanned because of the clown jenebu

[dark sigil]

Press a button to take control of your Merc and your other char becomes the ai. Then you can have a boss killer and mapper in one

[dusty mesa]

truuu

[tranquil umbra]

normal blight is also not as rewarding as the giga blights that require a real build

[pliant hamlet]

Blight in phrecia is hillarious because you can easily make all of your towers free

[fossil mural]

3 ring blights

[pliant hamlet]

it's a lot of clicks but you just max every tower, get free loot lol

[crisp obsidian]

I got banned for doing absolutely nothing

[dusty mesa]

normal blight is still one of the most rewarding content in the game btw lol

and you don't need a build

[tranquil umbra]

ik

[fossil mural]

Botting behaviour

[celest skiff]

banned for associating with the banned

[tranquil umbra]

also by normal do you mean like blighted maps or regular maps with blight

[fossil mural]

With poe discord

[pliant hamlet]

I had a mod from tft message me and try to get me to stop badmouthing them which I thought was hillarious

[dusty mesa]

blighted maps

[karmic gust]

damn you hurt their feelings!

[solid laurel]

Never thought of using the triple ring for blight 😂 I imagine it makes a chonky difference

[fossil mural]

The meta is here

No util flasks blight

[dusty mesa]

regular maps with blight is only rewarding to sell blighted maps

[pliant hamlet]

I'm not even like a tft hater, I just dislike their blacklisting addon

[tranquil umbra]

fair

[fossil mural]

Lmao why

[tranquil umbra]

and I assume these aren't blight-ravaged maps right

[split maple]

Invigo bloodline was the most profit strat this leavue

[pliant hamlet]

I'm an ssf player, wtf do I care about big trade organization's management lol

[tranquil umbra]

just regular blighted maps

[split maple]

Only place where global drops were still ok

[prime hill]

blacklisting addon is good for like 95% of the blacklists

because ggg's stance was banning you for reporting scammers instead

LMAO

[dusty mesa]

blight ravaged maps require a solid build, but they're one of the most rewarding things to run in the game

[pliant hamlet]

All the people above who said they were banned from tft? At the time, they would have been blacklisted as well

Some might still be

And that's scummy

[prime hill]

tft only exists because how bad ggg handled trade

[fossil mural]

Blacklister from what doe

[prime hill]

early on

[tranquil umbra]

I really should learn to run blighted maps honestly

[modern zinc]

interview soon

[fossil mural]

If you are banned in tft

[dusty mesa]

normal, unravaged blighted maps, are just plug and play if you have your ring enchants

[tranquil umbra]

but I can't find a good guide

[fossil mural]

Already

[prime hill]

but yeah

[fossil mural]

Ig it mattered for when there was no async

[dusty mesa]

I run them early sometimes

[pliant hamlet]

there's an addon for chromium that blocks "scammers" on pathofexile.com/trade.
That's managed by tft

[dusty mesa]

genuinely very good, and you can even chaos recipe super easy if you're into that

[modern zinc]

just make sentry minion towers + freeze towers + flamethrower turrets for whatever's immune to the minions

[celest skiff]

is GGG still indexing items on banned accounts that you cannot buy

[tranquil umbra]

yeah that's my intention for leaguestart

[dusty mesa]

but even without chaos recipe, blighted maps are crazy good

[karmic gust]

yea makes the whole system not trustable at all

[pliant hamlet]

yeah

That's what I was badmouthing back then lol

[prime hill]

in a good world

tft wouldn't have scum of earth like jenebu

and everything would be manageable

[fossil mural]

Ggg just needs to add more ingame tools

For trading

[prime hill]

^

[pliant hamlet]

I mean, I don't like the idea of a blacklisting player-controlled list at all, regardless of who controls it

[modern zinc]

MORE

[prime hill]

thats what they wanna do lately anyway

[fossil mural]

Add a carry system to the game

[prime hill]

I just wanna never rely on tft ever again

[hard cliff]

Reddit vs TfT makes you wish both sides would lose

[prime hill]

I just use sushi's shop instead for mirrored items anyway

[crisp obsidian]

untrue

they don't blacklist you for being banned from tft

[prime hill]

I just use tft for in-game services because

trade chat is a scam

[shy furnace]

4 hours to go

[crisp obsidian]

you have to actually do scummy things to get blacklisted

[hard cliff]

does that rely on one person being online?

[fossil mural]

Like being a racist

[pliant hamlet]

Yeah, that's what they said. I said I don't trust htem. I still don't. Jenebu could get someone added to that list. Thus, I don't like it.

[shy furnace]

i only use tft to buy a UE and maven clear the first d ays

[pliant hamlet]

Also they ban people for "scamming" without enough evidence

there's been numerous reddit posts of people complaining about it

[crisp obsidian]

oh I agree 100%

[prime hill]

yeah, but I used it usually early or a month into a league so I never had problems

[dusty mesa]

All you need to know about blighted maps are ring enchants and map enchants with oils

There are several decent combos for ring enchants but the two I use are:
Meteor adds burning ground
Empowering towers have increased effect

Always make a level 3 stun tower, level 3 ice tower, level 3 empowering tower, and level 4 meteor tower

That mostly perma stuns everything and kills with burning ground

Also, when you get good at it, either do lucky chests or teal oils for speed. I prefer speed

[pliant hamlet]

You can beat like 80% of blights by just spamming level 4 minion towers

[stuck phoenix]

The one time I checked tft and took a peek at their logs, they were blacklisting people for being noobs
And they had outdated info in their faqs
And they had a bot message with a typo that had been sent like 10k times

[celest skiff]

It all started with GGG going out of their way to protect scammers in rep threads

[prime hill]

^

[hard cliff]

how do you handle blight in maps before you get ring annionts?

[prime hill]

as I said here

[pliant hamlet]

You don't need ring annoints for blights in maps

[narrow yoke]

TFT is best for 3rd and 4th stone, than its closed till next league

[fossil mural]

Because friction OMEGALUL

[night bone]

Is mirage just going to be "constantly chased by lightning mirages" league?

[dusty mesa]

I've also heard this, but I never run minion towers really

[pliant hamlet]

2x T3 stun towers + 1 empower is enough to perma stun any lane not immune to stun tower

[tight plinth]

spam amber oils on map and get a bajillion towers

[dusty mesa]

I may pop one up at the oil extractor

[shy furnace]

yep takes too much effort to run UE and maven first day or 2

cheaper to ppay for it then buy pops

[night bone]

soulrend works well with blight, goes through proxy shields and if Occultist you get free explodey

[dusty mesa]

Maven isn't that bad, but UE definitely is

[fossil mural]

Just buy the frags and do it yourself

[dusty mesa]

too bad chaos dot sucks

[narrow yoke]

i like to reward the chads for their big builds and donate to the coffers.

[tight plinth]

i recently tested it on a character with just basic res gear, i didnt have to attack or anything, just 3x amber oil annoint and lots of towers

[celest skiff]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01HA08BR300001DRZQ963WKW91/4x.gif

[shy furnace]

you have to buy the pop, much cheaper to get carry, but then again u dont get loto

[hard cliff]

unfortunately it's too mainstream for me

[candid moon]

They tend to be online 12h+ a day lol

[pliant hamlet]

any dot that spreads works, too. Ignite, hinekora's + respite, edc, etc. all work

[candid moon]

Holy chat has moved a lot in 4mins

[night bone]

also mines work well with blight

[pliant hamlet]

we brought up tft

[shy furnace]

west coast waking up lol

[fossil mural]

Strem soon

[hard cliff]

best chieftan ad lol

too bad he only has two builds

[fossil mural]

A lot of people coming out of hibernation

[shy furnace]

under 4h for stream

i just woke up personaly haha

[candid moon]

It's still like 3h no?

[pliant hamlet]

3h15

[shy furnace]

lilttle under 4h

[fossil mural]

Thsts soon

[hard cliff]

I'm still in bed

[fossil mural]

[shy furnace]

oh wait its 11 not 11:30 my hhad

[hard cliff]

it's cold af in here

[prime hill]

doing ubers/maven early needs you to know the fights

[narrow yoke]

will we see jonathon

[prime hill]

thats too overrated

[shy furnace]

ill be out, ill watch onn phone

[stuck phoenix]

We can fix that if you want :p

[pliant hamlet]

nuuu

no slowmode

[fossil mural]

Can you block exarch balls

[pliant hamlet]

let us have our fun for the strem

[signal hawk]

I already had half of a work day, I'm on lunch break rn

[celest skiff]

Octavian is apparently part of the Q&A this time

[shy furnace]

no jonathan busy probably with exilecon maybe

[tight plinth]

abuse of power 😡

[fossil mural]

And jung

[stuck phoenix]

Xdd

[candid moon]

Nah, its still manageable, just my internet connection did a funny

[blazing spear]

3

[shy furnace]

tho i forge who is jonathan is he the fat one

[pliant hamlet]

jesus lol

[fossil mural]

The fuck you one

[hard cliff]

3?!

[shy furnace]

yeah hte fat one

[pliant hamlet]

best response

[shy furnace]

dont think he there

[fossil mural]

Have you no shame

[dusty mesa]

we still have 3 hours

[blazing spear]

std armour stack

[shy furnace]

maybe only working on poe2 now

[pliant hamlet]

notloc, are you still playing TS?

[cyan elbow]

what are the chances srs/hroc gets nerfed?

[shy furnace]

hope mercs are back

[dusty mesa]

probably not lol

[shy furnace]

no chance

[hard cliff]

they are

[stuck phoenix]

True

[pliant hamlet]

...srs? ALmost no chance. SRS is in a very middling place

[dusty mesa]

I don't really feel like investing in attack speed

[shy furnace]

they are good minion builds , minio still not best bulds

[fossil mural]

Self ignite, cws and rf are 3 different builds frfr

[shy furnace]

holy relic and awora best minion builds

[pliant hamlet]

hroc doesn't see enough play to get the ire of GGG I'd imagine

[blazing spear]

how tf are they going to resolve doryani prototype abuse?

[cyan elbow]

alright good

[shy furnace]

prob make it not work? or cap merc -res

or make it so mercs actualy get killed

[narrow yoke]

no way we get mercs again

[cyan elbow]

I finally decided to play minions and didn't want to get GGG'd into the ground

[fossil mural]

Hroc was played more in boat than kf was in 3.27 and phrecia

[narrow yoke]

they were too fun

[celest skiff]

set merc min res at 0

[shy furnace]

we are, they alreayd said so, just dunno when

[pliant hamlet]

Make them squishier? auras not work? I could think of a bunch of possibilities 🤔

[blazing spear]

even on player it's op

[cyan elbow]

they said they wanted to put mercs back in after rebalancing it

[shy furnace]

is no way doryani will work

[cyan elbow]

last league

[fossil mural]

"Your hits"

Problem solved

[shy furnace]

my guess is way less tanky now

or have to pay them gold too

[dusty mesa]

I really want to play non poison chaos dot or spell totems, so basically I'm not going to play either of those and I'll probably play some poison build because I doubt they get buffed

[signal hawk]

Mercs will come back heavily nerfed, I wouldn't be surprised if you just can't change their equips at all

[pliant hamlet]

god why would you play spell totems atm

[shy furnace]

maybe hire them through kingsm arch

[hexed mountain]

i hope they dont add merc

[pliant hamlet]

they feel so fucking bad

[stuck phoenix]

Minion players in shambles

[dusty mesa]

Exactly lol

I'm not going to

[shy furnace]

totems are good cause u can drop them and run around

[spice pecan]

totems feel pretty good to me idk

[blazing spear]

you forfeit your rings and armour and you use melding in exchange of 275 lightning pen

[fossil mural]

They can go play poison

[dusty mesa]

unless they actually buff

[hexed mountain]

there's already kingsmarch every league i dont want to have to set mercs up too

[spice pecan]

but i play totems all the time

[pliant hamlet]

what kind of totems?

[stoic horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCxSQpRfCIY

[cyan elbow]

Mercs are risky, I think they're fun but they might become another "kingsmarch" i.e. feature you have to engage with since you'd be losing too much power/profit that it's dumb not to

[spice pecan]

storm burst, flameblast, shockwave

[stoic horizon]

you heard it guys, poe is solved

[pliant hamlet]

flameblast? that's a surprise. Pizzasticks is still playable?

[fossil mural]

Imagine playing anything but flamewood

[spice pecan]

want to give scorching ray totems a leaguestart try but dont really want to sell boss carries idk

[dusty mesa]

spell totems are pretty bad

[cyan elbow]

some youtuber suggested the idea of rotating mechanics, I think mercs might be fun to have once every few leagues

[hard cliff]

it's been solved for decades

[blazing spear]

chieftain cringe

[dusty mesa]

SA ballistas though? High chance I play that again

[shy furnace]

is that another streamer with many mirrors complaning about towel loot

[narrow yoke]

it was zizaran that suggested it i think

[cyan elbow]

yeah ziz

[spice pecan]

flameblast of celerity got buffed

[pliant hamlet]

good point

[spice pecan]

tatiantel started 3.27 with it and so did i

[blazing spear]

also, besides doryani, mercs are balanced

[karmic gust]

i dont like rotating stuff

[spice pecan]

it was an extremely free 4stone

[stoic horizon]

yeah? then what does it equal to? 3?

[narrow yoke]

i feel like the doryani merc was the only issue.

[karmic gust]

makes you want to or not play league because something you like or do not like rotated

[pliant hamlet]

I've disliked the general slowness that totems have had lately, I also miss my 5/6/7 totems a lot

[shy furnace]

streamers all want kingsmarch nerfed, they don't want us common folk to earn money

[stoic horizon]

[pliant hamlet]

the 3 totem meta is just not fun to me

[strong totem]

3hour hype

[hard cliff]

69

[native abyss]

joel

[hexed mountain]

nah even outside of dory there's crazy stuff in uniques and their skills

[spice pecan]

i mean you can get 6 with hiero

[fossil mural]

Lets be real - most stuff gets overshadowed so hard it might as well be rotating

[hard cliff]

lock in Joel time

[shy furnace]

i used merc for MF

[native abyss]

lock IN

[shy furnace]

then tried doryani

[karmic gust]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-gif-26450756

[hexed mountain]

one of the merc permanently gives you armour applies to ele damage with the runegraft for buff duration

[fossil mural]

3b crushing fist with facebreakers

[blazing spear]

tbf, mercs are worth an entire ascendancy

[shy furnace]

they can lower the aura str

[pliant hamlet]

oh? Is that 7 of your spell totem or 5 of your totem + 2 of the flame link totems?

[brazen vector]

Id hug my merc

[spice pecan]

sorry, it's 6 of your main totem

[karmic gust]

i want kingsmarch removed personally

[pliant hamlet]

How, What am I missing? 👀 You have my interest

[karmic gust]

its mobile game mechanic it do not really belongs here

[shy furnace]

i don't, km lets casual earn money, to buy my goods

[spice pecan]

1 base + 1 ancestral bond + 1 hiero + 1 shaper shield + 2 multi totem supp

[narrow yoke]

i dont understand the KM hate

[pliant hamlet]

wait, multi totem is good now?

[karmic gust]

there is bunch of casual money making strats that work

[pliant hamlet]

I thought it was too much of a loss

[spice pecan]

on certain totem builds yeah

[shy furnace]

it's a town bulding mechanic

[hard cliff]

casual people are not doing km

[native abyss]

add clash royale with div cards to kingsmarch 🔥

[fossil mural]

And kingsmarch 100% has weight when ggg considers ground loot balance

[golden moat]

predictions:

-kingsmarch removed
-atlas rework
-accuracy stack nerf
-brand buffs
-life buffs
-slam nerf
-ground loot buff
-strongbox nerf
-expedition buffs
-energy shield stays the same
-wand skills nerfed

[spice pecan]

it's good for shockwave/ice spear/scorching ray

[dusty mesa]

It was so cool for one league, but should've never went core. (Especially since that league was a year)

[karmic gust]

its basically dailies

noone likes dailies

[pliant hamlet]

interesting, Any chance arc totem is playable?

[karmic gust]

pretty understandable

[narrow yoke]

i like dailies.

[lofty glen]

How do you only see your friends chat rather then seeing global chats

[pliant hamlet]

by far my fav non-flicker build

[spice pecan]

haven't tried it, but i think it was in the totem spreadsheet last league

[narrow yoke]

i bet half the players like freee loot

[pliant hamlet]

share?

[shy furnace]

i want them to expand on it honestly, i want goblins and zombies to attack my town while i hire mercs to fight nad dfense it

[pliant hamlet]

where that spreadsheet from

[fossil mural]

Shrimp Chrilson made a video on it and how he thinks they are evil

[pliant hamlet]

gonna make me league start totems lol

[shy furnace]

then add a princess in there too

[karmic gust]

thats why you dont understand the hate then i guess :d

[hard cliff]

de activate global

[dusty mesa]

yea if you show me a good spell totem pob I may consider it

[fossil mural]

Flamewood flamewood

[spice pecan]

lemme see if i can find it

[brazen vector]

make a guild or sit in an empty global chat or use a discord chat or just whisper

[shy furnace]

they should just nerf gold rota

[pliant hamlet]

❤️ tyty

[spice pecan]

tati's pizza sticks from 3.27 were pretty good lol

[blazing spear]

My merc setup was -12 chaos res hunter helm, perquil, garb of the ephemeral, anathema, trash despair ring, abhorrent interrogation, stampede and dying breath. it had zealotry and envy

[hard cliff]

you can literally just cut off global chat it is not permanent

[celest skiff]

you can just turn global off, you can also change the channel

[golden moat]

im ready for my 48 hour campaign completion trying to find all the hidden areas by myself

[blazing spear]

that thing was strong as fuck

[tranquil umbra]

they should nerf KM to give less raw currency but more runes and tattoos

[narrow yoke]

you could skip this?

[lofty glen]

How do i turn them off

[fossil mural]

146% at least one of them will be infinite loot glitch

[hard cliff]

certain tattoo prices are just stupid

why are something you need ten of t0

[shy furnace]

cause they are rare

[hard cliff]

fuck you

[shy furnace]

for every 100k value you ship, u get one tattoo

[tranquil umbra]

they should make them less rare

[fringe ermine]

I'm gonna have a job meeting one hour before the Livestream 😆

[tranquil umbra]

while also nerfing the raw currency

[hard cliff]

quit your job

[spice pecan]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v72AZgtvuffNMKaE44MsyL7lvQ_L3GoaJqiNSWk_2LY/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[blazing spear]

if you're wondering why stampede, i anointed sovereignty on it and i anointed influence on ammy

[narrow yoke]

we dont need any currency nerfs at all!

[shy furnace]

if they nerf currency and make tats common no one will bother

[fringe ermine]

two months only lmao

[golden moat]

zone reset on tattoo area is the new holten

[blazing spear]

mercs make blight helms good

[tranquil umbra]

I didn't say make them too common

[fossil mural]

Its basic tats, I doubt its good

[tranquil umbra]

make them less rare

[pliant hamlet]

woah, those are so impressive numbers. What kind of investment are the dps (ssf)? Like day? week? month?

[karmic gust]

skip kingsmarch? dailies are dailies mostly because they arent rly optional

[spice pecan]

i don't know, i barely play ssf

[blazing spear]

Basic tats means all non journey tats

[karmic gust]

and kingsmarch def isnt very optional either

[spice pecan]

probably have to look at the pobs and kinda make a guess

[tranquil umbra]

like I shouldn't get 1 suppress tattoo for a 50m shipment bri

[pliant hamlet]

https://pobb.in/_sNubPpg41Lc this looks super obtainable

[shy furnace]

everyting is optional

if you don't like it dont do it

[narrow yoke]

you do not have to interact with KM at all. why would you say you have too

[modern zinc]

it's all hierophants lmao

[fossil mural]

Not a single flamewood

[spice pecan]

i mean yeah

[shy furnace]

i dont do heist or sanctum or ultimatum, i dont call for their removal

[spice pecan]

why would you play totems on a non-hiero

[nova lion]

3.28 public parties be like:

[spice pecan]

that's dumb

[golden moat]

i havent used kingsmarch since settlers and have had no issues making currency; only thing i miss out on is getting mirror shards which im fine without

[tranquil umbra]

you have to interact with KM if you want to be optimal

[pliant hamlet]

even minmax is pretty obtainable

[golden moat]

i just hate kingsmarch so i want it gone

[normal hedge]

pals was pobing KF totem and he said he dont see a world he goes hiero

[karmic gust]

because i has no opportunity cost

[spice pecan]

because it's ballista

[normal hedge]

because the pathing is awful

[tranquil umbra]

because it's a timer that runs in the background

[modern zinc]

I treat PoE as a single player game

[spice pecan]

on spell totems there's no reason to play anything but hiero

[modern zinc]

this way there's no FOMO from not doing kingsmarch

or any other content

[shy furnace]

it takes 1 week of crop growing , and 25m dust to hit 50m shitments

then u get 0=6 shard

[lucid gale]

Didn't even do shipments during the league and definitely didn't care about 17/50M stuff.
I'd rather be slightly poorer.

[karmic gust]

if they make it mechanic that you need to actively engage it to do then it would have opportunity cost

and would also make more sense

[tight plinth]

anyone hear played blast rain of trarnasayrus?

[shy furnace]

you do have to actively engage in mapping

[fossil mural]

Like the keystone

[blazing spear]

Kingsmarch is clash of clans

[pliant hamlet]

I'd rather invest gold into myself

[spice pecan]

the problem is that for a lot of people, it feels bad to not do it but it also is a slog to do it

[normal hedge]

his champ version looks better than tatis

[tranquil umbra]

YOU ALREADY DO THIS

[fossil mural]

Into bath water

[blazing spear]

you do have to actively engage in mpregging

[signal hawk]

Didn't we already had a Kingsmarch discussion yesterday?

[pliant hamlet]

There's so many gold sinks, I don't value currency very highly in ssf

[shy furnace]

they just need to nerf gold rota, so people cant just have easy gold

[pliant hamlet]

I tend to have enough of all the currencies I'd want

[fossil mural]

Kf is attack doe

[dusty mesa]

yea min/max is trade obtainable day 2 lol

[narrow yoke]

well i just emailed jonathon and told him dont remove, as a work from home player i love seeing mappers and boats rolling in that loooooooooot

[karmic gust]

well if someone brings up kingsmarch then discussion happens again rgiht

if not then not

[normal hedge]

?

[grave vine]

Who @ ggg likes the boats? Confess...

[blazing spear]

no one

[fossil mural]

They were talking spell totems I believe?

[lucid gale]

I recognize the allure and intentionally worked through the desire for myself.
I've done enough dailies for masters at midnight UTC to last a lifetime.

[shy furnace]

km is for you to farm gold then have them farm when u sleep, you're supposed to run ouot

[dusty mesa]

GGG loves walls though

[pliant hamlet]

if tree stays unnerfed, I think I could get the min/max by day 3 or 4 depending on the ashes drop rate, in ssf lol

[normal hedge]

idc, tati has a kf hiero

[frigid wedge]

what

[shy furnace]

tree wil lbe nerfed 100%

[pliant hamlet]

probably, but we don't know how

[narrow yoke]

if you play poe and have an opinion on KM, you dont sleep lets be real

[fossil mural]

Fastest breach block in the west

[spice pecan]

i don't like the fact that mappers get more loot from my maps than i do

[shy furnace]

lol i run like 0-5 maps a day usualy

[fossil mural]

Ggg would have doubled phrecia numbers if they let people block breach

[shy furnace]

my maps take 10-15minute to clear tho

[pliant hamlet]

mappers print so much good gear

[dusty mesa]

yea the only things on the min/max that are day 2 in trade are ashes and the watcher's lol. Your biggest grind is potentially the watchers probably

[blazing spear]

mhm

[normal hedge]

[pliant hamlet]

It's so hard for me to invest into anything else in the town

[fossil mural]

Are you doing ghost luring or something

[shy furnace]

ive gotten 2 mirror from mappers

[signal hawk]

I hate Ultimatum and I keep Trialmaster in maps so I can tell him to shut up while doing maps, the true RPG experience

[spice pecan]

they print boxes, mirror shards, mirrors, divines, good catalysts, like everything

[hard cliff]

big mood

I pick up too much stuff

[shy furnace]

no, i do ultra blight

[spice pecan]

and they dont even need scarabs

[blazing spear]

i spite disabled ultimatum

[pliant hamlet]

and they give you shit from mechanics I don't want to play lol

[fossil mural]

And you can feed them unplayable maps

[shy furnace]

you need alot of gold for mappers is all

[karmic gust]

also mappers with deli orbed maps are op

[lucid gale]

Gotta appreciate when your ICs thrive.

[dusty mesa]

I didn't even think about that

[pliant hamlet]

they have 6-man loot

[karmic gust]

deli orbs should increase fail rate of mappers at least

but they dont

xd

[signal hawk]

"Lets if you can do more than 3 rounds" Yeah I'm sure your mother can do more than 3 rounds Trialmaster

[pliant hamlet]

wtf really

I didn't know that Lol

[spice pecan]

yeah lmao

[karmic gust]

yea ou just do the scarab

for mapps to drop with deli layers

and then feed that to mappers

[frigid wedge]

rem why are you causing mpreg

[karmic gust]

and enjoy simulacrum and cluster jewel spam

and gg

[shy furnace]

i just vaal my spare maps and toss them in

[blazing spear]

vaal me instead

[fossil mural]

There is often layerd maps on sale on trade for the same price or cheaper than normal maps

[dusty mesa]

Ironically I'm considering a map strat anyway on league start, so I'd have an abundance of maps in general

[karmic gust]

you can farm like 2 inv of deli orbed 8 mods per map

no need to buy stuff for mappers

its kinda chill

[pliant hamlet]

I'd wait to consider any strats or builds for another 4 hours

just saying

[grave vine]

I wonder how much you would make in a few weeks during the league if you ONLY farm gold and maps for kingsmarch

[shy furnace]

this is 2 months of farming 2m kills. more like 1 month then few maps a day in the end

[pliant hamlet]

This is the endgame change after all

[signal hawk]

I like Harbingers

[celest skiff]

GGG will take another 20% DPS from fire trap until people stop league starting RF

[spice pecan]

if you supplement this with alt spamming clusters or flasks you could likely profit depending on how much gold carries cost

you dont even need to farm the gold or the maps probably

[pliant hamlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1re6nmh/the_korean_community_is_worried_that_this_might/

[normal hedge]

they would still play it

[pliant hamlet]

who's ready

[spice pecan]

literal hideout warrior

[shy furnace]

my 'towel loot' was fine

[dusty mesa]

I have a lot of strats I'm considering, but I'm definitely waiting on patch notes before I decide lol. Selling maps is pretty consistent though

[opal ingot]

Sounds neat

[spice pecan]

tile loot?

[opal ingot]

I'll be sitting In ur hideout so you can share 10% of your profits with me thank you

[shy furnace]

towel loot

[frigid wedge]

interesting mood today

[spice pecan]

there's people who still play seismic trap for some reason

[dusty mesa]

selling maps is pretty easy too

[blazing spear]

i got these many d in 40 abyss of snaking maps

[dusty mesa]

especially once I'm selling t17s

[frigid wedge]

how much xp is in your towel

[shy furnace]

that was 3.26 haha, i did too

oh i alwyas get lvl 100

[narrow yoke]

selling maps is really easy, if you use the KM scarab and drop the t17s, its a fun low stress way to make some coin

[pliant hamlet]

that used to be my old strat when I played trade. Rush to t16s, sell early t16s for 30-50c, buy shaper rotations, sell frags + maps, turn it all into exalts before you go to bed, wake up to 200% inflation, coast on that for the entire league lol

I think way too many people are too fast for any of that to work tho

[shy furnace]

i sell t17, i run t16+ maps juiced

[hard cliff]

I think reddit is lying about this being Korean

[prime hill]

it's still more or less same but in different terms

[shy furnace]

usualy can self sustain the t16+