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cobalt blade
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:3

frigid wedge
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u gotta lick it off yourself too dear

icy zinc
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the foulborn that is

split maple
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needs to be straight up removed

hexed mountain
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nah that would be lame

past mantle
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Do no damage if you don't dual wield seems pretty tough to ignore.

cobalt blade
brazen vector
hexed mountain
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the breach claws are fun to use in ssf on dex stack stuff early on

frigid wedge
cobalt blade
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I mean yeah but you can say that about alot of phys as extra weapon things

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like grace of the goddess and kboc

past mantle
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No. templarthumbsup

cobalt blade
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your actively gimping your damage if you dont dual wield but you get so much comfort from shield

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yes

split maple
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so what would dual wield need to have to be viable flo

frigid wedge
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kboc is one of those times where time dual wielding is WAY more dmg but still worse than a shield bc qol

brazen vector
cobalt blade
split maple
frigid wedge
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honestly ggg just give me an attack wand whirling blades skill and my life is yours

tired niche
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give me a wand version of the saviour and my shield goes into the trash

brazen vector
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Give me poets pen

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But as a chest

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I really enjoy mods that scale with levels

frigid wedge
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ggg please

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give me wander version of whirling blades vgyre

split maple
hoary scarab
brazen vector
hoary scarab
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you got the spell trigger if you go unarmed

brazen vector
past mantle
brazen vector
hoary scarab
brazen vector
split maple
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more doesnt benefit anyone

past mantle
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What?

hoary scarab
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
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More cast speed op

split maple
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lets not pretend anyone actually uses other spells

cobalt blade
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Brands arent real

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spark is the only real spell

brazen vector
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X3

past mantle
split maple
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okay ig its qol for frostblink of wintr y:P

cobalt blade
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Oh also another thing i could apply to this is armour stackers

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Your actively gimping your character if you dont dual wield replica dreams

split maple
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we rly need selfcast buffs

frigid wedge
cobalt blade
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theres that really scuffed multi link weapon setup people tried this league but it seemed ass lol

hexed mountain
fossil mural
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
hexed mountain
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i think casters who use a staff should do a lot more damage than those who wand+shield , and if you dual wand then more cast speed is ok since thats the way dual wand cluster are oriented

past mantle
frigid wedge
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The jank part was that it was crit

cobalt blade
split maple
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didnt trips have a pretty funky one

hexed mountain
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so that we have a legit choice between staff for giga damage , wand shield for balance and wand wand for cast speed (and mobility since frostblink exists)

onyx adder
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First thing to fix with casters is how bad the tree is tbh

fossil mural
cobalt blade
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just give spells mana leech

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surely nothing goes wrong

hexed mountain
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dw we getting mirage caster support , COPIUM

frigid wedge
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mmh fair

onyx adder
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Pretty much every playable spell build tries to click as few relevant spell nodes as possible

onyx adder
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Staff nodes are mediocre, DW nodes are embarrassing and ppl only click shield nodes because they say block

past mantle
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You don't have to do much convincing for me to agree that caster staves are completely dog.

stoic horizon
split maple
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found it

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
onyx adder
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The only reason ppl click caster nodes was when the open chest mastery was good

hexed mountain
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rn casters feel like we have 0 choice its legit all wand +shield outside of the little fishing rod memes

frigid wedge
onyx adder
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U compare that to anything right or bottom side and those guys are taking like 40 damage nodes on tree

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Anything top side and its like quick guys how fast can i path to cluster sockets

frigid wedge
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god i love that tech

onyx adder
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Tree is way more of a problem than fucking about with dw bonus

dense rock
fossil mural
frigid wedge
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every time i see it

hexed mountain
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when you want to grab spell damage nodes for your wand skill and see how little there are

frigid wedge
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makes me happi

cobalt blade
split maple
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obviously

frigid wedge
tough cove
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good ole 11l weapon

dense rock
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i dont think fancy quite cuts it in this case...

fossil mural
onyx adder
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I think the only exception when ur talking about selfcast is LC and thats because it needs lots of a stat thats hard to get elsewhere

frigid wedge
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you know the actual problem with that mirror sword?

fossil mural
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The dagger went from mirror

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To 200divs

frigid wedge
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thats mirror service and its missing 2 gem levels

past mantle
split maple
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that sword is 6 mod recomb salty

past mantle
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Who is this in reply to?

cobalt blade
split maple
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thats ridiculus no matter the way you do it

frigid wedge
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smh

brazen vector
cobalt blade
onyx adder
cobalt blade
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But currently its ass

chilly chasm
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how gimped would i become if i attempt a trickster Flicker Strike league start next league?

hexed mountain
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just use two chaos orbs , 50/50 you hit it or you dont

crisp obsidian
frigid wedge
split maple
cobalt blade
split maple
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idk even at what point to stop recombing and go metamoding

split maple
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nor how to force nnns there

dense rock
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tfw that silly scion build gets almost 4600% inc melee dmg from 1 single mod on the offhand 😄

frigid wedge
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such as

cobalt blade
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you make 5 mod afaik with recombs then lock slam

frigid wedge
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my blade vortex in settlers

nova lion
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end of league I guess? kek

hexed mountain
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yeah

past mantle
frigid wedge
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which still chewed through a third of my eb per cast

onyx adder
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Ye for challenges

hexed mountain
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people dont care about the price and just want their challenge

crisp obsidian
hexed mountain
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it was 4D in phrecia

fossil mural
crisp obsidian
split maple
frigid wedge
crisp obsidian
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did alesia just go jijimode

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smh

hexed mountain
fossil mural
split maple
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just delve if cheap templarthumbsup

stoic horizon
crisp obsidian
fossil mural
brazen vector
onyx adder
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I thought machinarium doesnt show up in reports anymore

brazen vector
crisp obsidian
past mantle
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It does but it was from 2 reports and now only 1.

split maple
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
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Its always just been comprehensive only

whole bluff
split maple
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got mine 2x from reports this leaguer

fossil mural
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Minecraft doesnt have tungsteam smh

crisp obsidian
frigid wedge
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it also wasnt hh bv

onyx adder
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Oh ok i guess id have noticed if i was doing challenges

stoic horizon
hoary scarab
brazen vector
past mantle
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It was in the unique map report pool and very common and just got removed from it like 4 leagues ago. Big rip on that.

cobalt blade
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anyway ima dissapear to sleep and wake up once the streams close to starting o/

whole bluff
steel fable
whole bluff
fossil mural
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Jijitsu

onyx adder
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Machinarium probably needs an update

whole bluff
onyx adder
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Thing is actually useless

fossil mural
stoic horizon
# whole bluff Jijihito

ito implies this is the small version in spanish, so you are saying somewhere out there there is EL JIJIHO

past mantle
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Bino's really is 13% crit huh.

whole bluff
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NB: I turned off ping reply

onyx adder
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Most unique maps are but machinarium is boss pool too

fossil mural
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And machinarium is def not high in that list

frigid wedge
whole bluff
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Gn @cobalt blade

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
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fun fact, brass keys smell very similar to blood taste

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fun fact

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i like to sniff my keys

cobalt blade
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more accurate to say blood tastes metallic

fossil mural
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Man discovers blood has metals in it

stoic horizon
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nowae

frigid wedge
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no particular reason

frigid wedge
stoic horizon
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omw to get some blood to forge a sword

brazen vector
hoary scarab
cobalt blade
brazen vector
frigid wedge
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ppl say it tastes like iron usually tho, i enjoy copper taste/smells

cobalt blade
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technically a really bad idea to send but probably fine lol

cobalt blade
hoary scarab
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the oils from your hands react with the metal, wich causes the smell

frigid wedge
hoary scarab
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metals are odourless and tasteless

fossil mural
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Sans confirmed giga sweaty

frigid wedge
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sooo

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gl

cobalt blade
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omw to meow at you

brazen vector
fossil mural
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Pipe bombing your friends

Classic

frigid wedge
past mantle
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Hmmge, is essentia usable in any capacity now?

crisp obsidian
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no

brazen vector
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You can equip it, yes

hoary scarab
fossil mural
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If they make claw mastery work with es its a lotta instant leech

whole bluff
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Japanese people only have ocean steel or something. The ocean is made out of water, blood is made out of water. So Samurais were basically fighting with blood swords. Prove me wrong.

onyx adder
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We alrdy had this discussion, its an ok day 2 item its useless after that

hoary scarab
frigid wedge
past mantle
whole bluff
past mantle
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It's 10% of leech is instant per equipped claw.

cobalt blade
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its currently only life leech

fossil mural
cobalt blade
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internally

past mantle
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Wtf?

fossil mural
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Lmao

frigid wedge
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not even mana?

cobalt blade
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And rhe source is from local identity looking at the game files if you wanna go look it up

stoic horizon
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ye and someone (dont remember who sry) in here already tested and confirmed it doesnt work

crisp obsidian
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Caasi tested it

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iirc

past mantle
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That's some cringe wtf.

frigid wedge
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yes

whole bluff
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🧱

past mantle
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Well there goes that.

past mantle
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It was looking actually usable with instant leech.

fossil mural
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It is

onyx adder
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Its been bugged for years, every 3 months someone askes about it

cobalt blade
fossil mural
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Its just hard to search for it

cobalt blade
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but local identity is a good source from him doing pob lol

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and needing to make sure stuff is correct

onyx adder
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I like localidentity

fossil mural
past mantle
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110% of pool leeched per second and then 25% instant leech on top of that.

onyx adder
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He's gotten so much better at the mechanics of poe over the years when he took over from openarl nearly everything new was wrong lul

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I got respect for ppl that learn

onyx adder
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Now if someone can just fix the dot survivability section

onyx adder
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Everytime i complain to deathbeam he goes hey yea you're right thats stupid and then he doesnt fix it

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Smh

fossil mural
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Lmao

past mantle
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Time to hope for the mastery fix in patch notes. :coppegy:

frigid wedge
fossil mural
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They will also nerf it

fossil mural
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The only times I look at max hits and stuff section

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I want to see damage conversions and shi

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Never even once looked at dots

cobalt blade
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it doesnt account for recovery

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theres probably other issues but thats one that annoys me lol

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since dots should directly correlate with your recovery

whole bluff
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Ngl, having the skills to be a suitable successor to OpenArl implies he could become quite knowledgeable in poe. Cool that he also became so

lucid gale
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The PoB crew is very impressive, so many contributors doing their part, small and large.

tough cove
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im glad binos got a range buff on teh prolif though

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so that other classes can enjoy glorious pf level poison prolif

lucid gale
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It's amazing to see new contributors come out of nothing and onboard to make a feature or fix in almost no time at all.

past mantle
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I'm so smart and cool and awesome I got one of these ticked off before the announcement even started.

warm musk
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Are poison builds ok bossers w minimal investment. Was thinking of running one during league start

tough cove
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now if only we could get some attack masteries on the right side that didnt require wasting 3+ points to get extra strike

tough cove
fossil mural
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😂

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Smoll

lucid gale
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Bed time, but I'll leave you with this:

fossil mural
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He did a poison leg start simulation run

frigid wedge
stoic horizon
surreal musk
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pconc pf is one of the strongest league starters

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(of bouncing)

frigid wedge
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ehhh

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is aight

split maple
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my only issue with mamba is the story of start pconcb ... ... ... farm 20 clusters ... ... decent build

frigid wedge
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u can 2 stone and then it falls off

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tops

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on leaguestart

fossil mural
tough cove
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you can do lash as well

warm musk
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So I just go pnonc until I get enough dot?

tough cove
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i do lash into mamba usually jsut because i dont want to lab farm bouncing

split maple
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you go pconc until you get enough low tolerance jewels and like a few 5p voices

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even 7p voices in a hurry lol

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like amount of scaling you get outta low tolerances makes everything else not important

fossil mural
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You can go mamba for non juice content with like 2 clusters

split maple
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yea but you dotn want that since at that point it will be worse than pconc

whole bluff
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Pconc is unethical, ngl

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If it actually scaled it would be OP

tough cove
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yeah, you really want to get more stuff before that point, because mamba is still a strike skill and feels bad without extra strike/range

fossil mural
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And binos will be even more expensive

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Than usual

tough cove
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it was already expensive cause dust

fossil mural
warm musk
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I mean, assuming slams do get nerfed. Poison seems a cheap option for 4 stones. I usually get stuck on 2 for 2-3 weeks

past mantle
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Idk how much actual increase there will be to Bino's cost.

whole bluff
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Binos needed this. I'm not 100% sure it's quite enough, but it's good

tough cove
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agreed it needed it. couldnt compete with even decent rolled 3 ele daggers

past mantle
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Most of the T0s and T1s are valuable only because of dust.

whole bluff
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Wonder what they do to starforge 🤩

fossil mural
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Its not like the weapon is bad either

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Its okay flat

past mantle
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3m is genuinely insane and it being on the weapons as a flat area value should mean it can be scaled.

fossil mural
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And crit if you want

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And then sustain

whole bluff
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The decent dmg and giga crit might justify using it without actually feeling bad, on the right build

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But that's what I want anyway. To get to use it without feeling bad

fossil mural
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Elusive agony assa HERE I COME

past mantle
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Bino's wasn't a bad feeling item already.

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This is 3m btw.

tough cove
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binos was already the best dagger option without going into the triele all poison daggers

frigid wedge
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for mamba

whole bluff
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I wonder if they do any buff to BB of daggers

tough cove
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(discounting perfect rolled phys daggers which no one used in the first place)

fossil mural
tough cove
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agreed

fossil mural
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Ele flat is so much higher

frigid wedge
fossil mural
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Its not even funny

whole bluff
frigid wedge
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why a heist

whole bluff
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Cuz they're so spread out

frigid wedge
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nah

past mantle
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Is 3m the largest prolif now?

frigid wedge
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try a beach map

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then ill b happy

whole bluff
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I'm thinking when entering the heist, but maybe it's not worse than breach

fossil mural
tough cove
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yes

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2.5 on lvl 38ish ignite prolif is the second highest

spice pecan
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level 38 holy

whole bluff
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This is biiig

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Inpulsa is like 2.2

fossil mural
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Bereks needs to scale too trust

whole bluff
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HoI is like 1.4

past mantle
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That's genuinely what unique weapons need.

whole bluff
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Yeah

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Big effects

tough cove
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yeah a unique hook that makes their lower damage worth using

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in exchange for unique modifiers/effects

whole bluff
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Ah, now I know what my problem with bino buff is. I always want boss use case

tough cove
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you can always weapon swap

whole bluff
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Yeah

tough cove
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bino offhand for clear, triele for boss

fossil mural
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Scale to 4m at least

whole bluff
fossil mural
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Surely will work

past mantle
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They just need some really obscene effects because they're almost never beating out rares.

fossil mural
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Generic area isnt that easy to get tbh

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Just let it scale

split maple
tough cove
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yeah. armor doesnt have that issue since all you lose is some defensive stats taht you can often get elsewhere, but attack based weapons simply cant get extra baseline damage from other places usually

whole bluff
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Thing is if they buffed them to beat rares, at first they'd have a situation they clearly stated they don't consider ideal (iirc). Then the rare weapons would outscale them anyway

split maple
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make a humble adorned leaguestarter

fossil mural
stoic horizon
whole bluff
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So uniques need stuff like giga attack speed, +1 tincture, be voidforge, new bino, etc

split maple
tough cove
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(replica alberons being the noted exception to that rule)

split maple
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surely you can pull 20% outta ass somewhere else

whole bluff
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Giga crit chance, etc

fossil mural
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130% for 4.5

tough cove
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megalos with low tol and aoe nodes

frigid wedge
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babe wake up new mamba tree just dropped

split maple
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how much is expansive might + low tolerance megalo on legstart

karmic gust
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bino will not scale with aoe what are you guys even talking about again

tough cove
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or some assasssin jank with vast power and low tolerance

karmic gust
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that is not how it works at all

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alright sure :d

whole bluff
fossil mural
karmic gust
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no it does not

whole bluff
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So, correct

frigid wedge
karmic gust
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its literally just bereks wording now

split maple
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them just replacing nearby with numbers on items wont make them any less nearby i feel

whole bluff
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If it's a 3m bereks, I'll take it

frigid wedge
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25 aoe if 5 recent kills

split maple
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i think we can pull it off with like 3

frigid wedge
split maple
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scion mamba 🥺

fossil mural
onyx adder
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And how its all ur fault

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Thanks for asking

karmic gust
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why would i fix it when i only play PF

frigid wedge
karmic gust
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which means i never look at that section :d

onyx adder
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SEE

fossil mural
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Its literally not the same wording

whole bluff
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Lmao

onyx adder
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I told u guys

frigid wedge
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GUYS

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CAN YOU HOLD DAGGER AND MACE

stoic horizon
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yes

fossil mural
whole bluff
frigid wedge
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we should str stack this shit

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with the aoe per str mace

stoic horizon
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zdps, whole map size prolif

onyx adder
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I agree

split maple
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so bino and don cumbermbitchyani and flat from booties?

past mantle
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You just pick up replica alberon's for damage if you str stack.

onyx adder
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For an encore we can stack projectile speed on heavy strike

frigid wedge
spice pecan
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doon cuebiyari or an elder aoe mace

split maple
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oh wait not don just elder aoe

stoic horizon
frigid wedge
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i meant separate to that tree

karmic gust
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guys what if bereks and pf prolif also secretly scales with aoe

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if we are delusional enough today

split maple
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is mamba even usable

karmic gust
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then it surely does

split maple
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with dagger and mace

karmic gust
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no

fossil mural
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They are the same picture right guys

frigid wedge
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the new bino specifies a distance rather than being a nearby

fossil mural
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Its not an explosion and its not nearby equivalent

frigid wedge
whole bluff
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475... 19/4... (4.5/2)^2=20.25/4

2.1 might be close enough?

fossil mural
split maple
karmic gust
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and it will not scale with aoe in either case

split maple
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but yeah sure respite doesnt give regen

whole bluff
stoic horizon
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maybe i should try that ex blizz dev arpg demo to kill time

frigid wedge
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ah

whole bluff
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But im lost

fossil mural
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Literally why I put all 3 lines in the ss

split maple
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common sense is telling me that ggg isnt giving us aoe-scalable poison prolif

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yeah wording is a tad different but behaviour isnt gonna be

karmic gust
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nah this one will scale when literally no other source does

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surely not coping

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:d

wheat sinew
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Watchu guys think of the changed t0s

fossil mural
stoic horizon
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i mean they want to buff the unique

karmic gust
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binos decent replacement for oblit

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on a lot of builds

onyx adder
fossil mural
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Claw mastery is bugged -> essentia bad

whole bluff
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2.2^2=4.84. I'm dumb. Or it's that I only intentionally learned squares to 20

split maple
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if it somehow works i am somehow pulling 3k strength out of somehwere and grabing that 180% mace

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idk what skill

onyx adder
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1.6 attack speed --> essentia bad lul

wheat sinew
karmic gust
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why even bother with str stack

split maple
fossil mural
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Lmao

frigid wedge
stoic horizon
frigid wedge
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stronk = funny

fossil mural
frigid wedge
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...

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obv u play fross

karmic gust
frigid wedge
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w shapers touch

onyx adder
stoic horizon
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fross is dead cuz it was on trailer trust

fossil mural
frigid wedge
fossil mural
tough quartz
fossil mural
onyx adder
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Bugged mastery is just the game trying to save u from thinking essentia is better than day 3 weapon filler

stoic horizon
karmic gust
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i kinda want to do something with windburst at some point sounds funny with venom gyre

frigid wedge
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seems intended

karmic gust
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it also has bow tag

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so hard to say :d

frigid wedge
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oh yes

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icl thats their fault

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how u gonna not read ur own shit

onyx adder
frigid wedge
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depends on attack speed

karmic gust
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isnt it fixed distance

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well fixed min/max

celest skiff
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't

onyx adder
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No that only affects the animation

karmic gust
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but idk how far

frigid wedge
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naw not rlly

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int acc goes half the map when u whirl

onyx adder
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The distance is fixed

frigid wedge
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doesnt it?

celest skiff
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you from another reality or sumtin

karmic gust
fossil mural
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He just gets rubberbanded

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Or smth

stoic horizon
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you prob just attack so fast you whirl multiple times thinking its once

karmic gust
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whirling blades on high attack speed is wonky

spice pecan
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i hope you like rubberbanding

frigid wedge
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icl i never played int acc

celest skiff
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it double taps on its own if you're too fast

frigid wedge
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i just know ppl found issue in moving w it

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bc of lack of control

fossil mural
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Wtf is that quality

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On windburst

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10% inc damage

karmic drift
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does + character lv on heist gear do anything now? like does it affect the lower lv rolls each rogue has?

spice pecan
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rogues can go over level 5

wheat sinew
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Trust voice of storm essentia for 834 pure lightning dps

celest skiff
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they flip a coin to decide if quality is the most important stat on a gem or if it is barely as good as the worst damage passive on the tree.

stoic horizon
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or just a general dmg inc you have on majority of supports

fossil mural
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No?

stoic horizon
onyx adder
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Ok so some autistic dude tested whirling blades years ago

celest skiff
fossil mural
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Thats somehow worse

onyx adder
split maple
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check on wiki

onyx adder
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Max distance whirling blades is apparently 54 units

split maple
onyx adder
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So i guess ur in luck as long as ur ok with shitty slow max distance whirling blades

fossil mural
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What does it scale with

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Or nothing?

stoic horizon
split maple
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new uber drop impales enemy a tad on critical strike with wand attack

frigid wedge
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only a bit tho

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1% impale

fossil mural
#

A tad also means a little

spice pecan
#

imagine if celestial brace actually existed on day 1

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i would play champion so fast

onyx adder
#

Distance is fixed, speed has changed once or twice but last i looked it just linearly scales with attack speed

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Where the base attack speed is equal to ur weapon base attack speed + 0.6s

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That video i linked is old so the speeds are wrong

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Also:

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Tad

celest skiff
#

The only "movement" skill with a scalable max distance I can imagine is charged dash and I don't remember if that's true or not.

brazen vector
wheat sinew
wheat sinew
karmic gust
#

with longer duration

brazen vector
celest skiff
wheat sinew
#

Db what's your mapex8le site o I need to check the estimated droprate of the experimental card

split maple
#

lucked out on fossil?

onyx adder
#

There was someone in here that spent hours and hours and hours monologuing about their plans to optimize their act speedruns by buying the optimal twink gear

celest skiff
#

but I do remember a guy doing heist with lightning warp where he would teleport to the door when he finished the heist

brazen vector
fossil mural
stoic horizon
#

new warp tech teleporting you through the whole map login (saves portal scrolls)

onyx adder
#

And then their times were super slow

split maple
fossil mural
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Skill issue

celest skiff
#

OK Frostblink does

onyx adder
#

And from talking to them we realized they didnt know to walk cancel leap slam

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It blew their mind

wheat sinew
brazen vector
karmic gust
split maple
#

i swear you just crafted these to one up mine UHM

wheat sinew
wheat sinew
celest skiff
fossil mural
celest skiff
#

I miss heist era smoke mine movement

karmic gust
#

i miss smoke mine not being useless

fossil mural
split maple
wheat sinew
#

Sad days

split maple
#

i cannot even enjoy them now 😛

karmic gust
#

having good movespeed on every ascendancy was so nice

brazen vector
frigid wedge
brazen vector
#

enjoy your stuff

spice pecan
wheat sinew
brazen vector
frigid wedge
#

not enough

brazen vector
wheat sinew
#

Maan can't wait for livestock

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Livestream*

split maple
#

3.28 the livestock league

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bringing farming back to game

stoic horizon
wheat sinew
#

Been rotting in bed but need to do work and need to file documents and aaaah Livestream will save

brazen vector
#

@frigid wedge I can now say 8.7k es

frigid wedge
#

lul

stoic horizon
wheat sinew
#

Oh no what have I done

stoic horizon
split maple
#

go es lom

wheat sinew
#

Poor cows league

brazen vector
split maple
#

and check fbl blue dream

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its kinda not that bad

stoic horizon
celest skiff
#

maybe Varunastra is about to get something

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the T0 list is pretty short and most of them don't need overhauled

stoic horizon
split maple
#

arent prety much just marohi, rakiata, reefbane and maybe eedge allrite?

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all others could do with a buff

celest skiff
ivory trail
#

live is tonight right

brazen vector
#

now I just need a cool quiver

karmic gust
split maple
#

okay soul taker ig usable for 2 builds

karmic gust
#

i think actually most of t0s need bff at minimum

stoic horizon
karmic gust
#

outside of voidforge lul

fossil mural
split maple
#

glare is justr sad i feel

karmic gust
#

and idk if you even count that

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glare basically just bama bow

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and not even good at that

past mantle
crisp obsidian
split maple
#

divinarus ig just flip the lines so crit multi if killed recently and will be fun 😄

celest skiff
#

Varunastra right now is just a very mediocre rare that can use any melee weapon passive but why bother unless you're doing it for views on youtube or twitch.

frigid wedge
split maple
#

ik its for mfa

frigid wedge
#

mmh

split maple
#

but surely you can squeze some es somewhere with es lom or maybe fbl dream

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tho idk how pathing works there to clusters in later case

hexed mountain
#

idk varunastra is kinda good , just not T0 good

karmic gust
frigid wedge
#

OHHH

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i thought u meant the chaos conversion one

karmic gust
#

but its one of few giga rare uniq weps that dont suck ass

crisp obsidian
#

yeee

karmic gust
#

so should be good example for all the t0s

crisp obsidian
#

bbbbbut it's a boss drop so it's allowed to be decent

stoic horizon
celest skiff
#

But GGG probably didn't just mean T0 explicitly

karmic gust
#

true, mageblood isnt boss drop

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so should be nerfed

frigid wedge
#

no theres a foulborn blue

stoic horizon
#

ah

frigid wedge
#

i think it's just the other blue

crisp obsidian
#

exactly, make mageblood 1-2 flasks

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ez

hexed mountain
#

all i ask is that in SSF when i drop a T0 i'm like "damn thats cool i can make a build with that" and not "oh 1M dust"

stoic horizon
frigid wedge
#

that isnt that important

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icl

hexed mountain
#

to be fair though with the reveal of the two buffed T0s they're going the right way they look totally usable

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i would definitely make a build around them

celest skiff
#

I assume soul takers value is still completely based on the recipe

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attackers haven't been mana starved for a decade

past mantle
#

GGG's been really good about uniques recently, even with weapons.
Whoever is on that as of late is doing god's work.

frigid wedge
#

soul taker has a place in delve builds

hexed mountain
#

i dont think its getting buffed its kinda high damage for a 1H

frigid wedge
#

its good on vigil strike jugg

split maple
#

but yea its one build item + recipe

stoic horizon
hexed mountain
#

saw a dude doing vigilant strike endurance charge stacker jugg with soul taker , looked very solid ( mainly soul taker to deal with soul eater)

past mantle
karmic gust
#

suddenly they are interesting to people

past mantle
stoic horizon
#

uh was charlatan added earlier than this league?

past mantle
#

Insane right?

karmic gust
#

craazy :d

past mantle
split maple
past mantle
#

GGG's deisgn philosophy for uniques always didn't sit well with me.

celest skiff
#

give soul taker minor soul eater that caps at like 8 stacks

past mantle
#

I'm glad they're showing signs of changing that.

karmic gust
#

grey wind also recent right

past mantle
#

This league yep.

karmic gust
#

now only if they rebalance fucking bloodthirst on top

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xd

hexed mountain
#

well SOUL TAKER getting a mini soul eater would be lore accurate i guess

past mantle
#

PoE2 unique designs completely broke my brain. I'm glad PoE1 is unbreaking it.

karmic gust
#

just give it -10 stacks or something

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and thats it

frigid wedge
karmic gust
hexed mountain
#

would probably shoot up its value in trade to 100d but yeah

karmic gust
#

look at grey wind with 12% hp as flat

fossil mural
karmic gust
#

and then bloodthirst with like what

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2%

frigid wedge
#

its a support tho

karmic gust
#

and LL requirement

frigid wedge
#

not a weapon

tight plinth
#

and you have to be low life 😭

hexed mountain
#

bloodthirst would be usable if it wasnt only for weapons

karmic gust
hexed mountain
#

imagine if bloodthirst worked with facebreaker 🙁

karmic gust
#

spellblade still isnt completely useless

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you know what is bloodthirst power level?

stoic horizon
karmic gust
#

its weaker than the life chaos runegraft

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which is fucking insane

hexed mountain
#

bloodthirst could be doubled and it wouldnt be broken tbh

frigid wedge
hexed mountain
#

4% max life is still fair

tight plinth
#

double would probably put it in a great spot

fossil mural
karmic gust
#

needs to be at least 6%

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then it would be pretty good

stoic horizon
#

ggg are just afraid of ll facebreakers bla

karmic gust
#

and you would have reason to play around it

frigid wedge
tight plinth
#

facebreakers cant use it

karmic gust
fossil mural
karmic gust
#

with facebreakers

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lmao

wintry lily
#

@karmic gust I need you to work your magic into ggg to ensure pathfinder doesn't get nerfed

karmic gust
#

thats the funniest part

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so theres nothing to be afraid of even

wintry lily
#

I need my flaskium

stoic horizon
#

right it says weapon damage lmao

hexed mountain
#

yeah the issue really is that if its decent on normal weapons it becomes godmode on voidforge

frigid wedge
#

yeah they saying it should

hexed mountain
#

they're probably scared of voidforge bloodthirst so they make it piss bad for everything else

karmic gust
#

they are scared of flat phys in general

fossil mural
#

Look at generic flat phys

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On jewels

crisp obsidian
#

1-2

icy zinc
karmic gust
#

biggest source of falt phys in the game for yourself is fucking heist amulet lmao

icy zinc
#

hawk tuadh cyborg guy

karmic gust
#

by like 3 times over

hexed mountain
#

like voidforge is a 4% drop off uber uber elder does it really matter if its super strong?

karmic gust
#

or 4 times

split maple
crisp obsidian
split maple
#

Half of ascends are wrong

raw void
#

Why no stream yet?

icy zinc
icy zinc
#

dunno it looks fine no

stoic horizon
# icy zinc holy

i wonder how impale bow went, went to sleep before he finished

hexed mountain
split maple
crisp obsidian
split maple
#

Check yt

icy zinc
crisp obsidian
#

so it looks fine

#

but it's not fine

karmic gust
#

classic

hexed mountain
#

ah yeah

celest skiff
hexed mountain
#

grok is that code fine? kek

brazen vector
#

quick new quiver craft

icy zinc
#

lmao ye

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grokked

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guardianguardian

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
karmic gust
#

xd

frigid wedge
#

abyssus

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for facebreaking

brazen vector
fossil mural
#

Its heist?

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Huh

karmic gust
#

heist amulet

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abyssus another source thats comparable forgot about that one

tight plinth
#

the amulet you get in heist

karmic gust
#

but heist ammy is still more

#

pretty sure

uneven compass
#

Bro when is next teaser

tight plinth
#

no more

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patch in like a few hours

stoic horizon
#

they sleep now

uneven compass
#

Wait patch in few hours?

stoic horizon
#

no

karmic gust
#

so wake them up smh

uneven compass
#

You mean patch notes

stoic horizon
#

ye

frigid wedge
stoic horizon
#

but by few they mean like 10

tight plinth
#

less

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like 8

frigid wedge
stoic horizon
#

stream starts in 7, notes are after stream

uneven compass
#

Are they gonna release patch notes today tho

split maple
#

<t:1772132400:t>

hexed mountain
#

ye

tight plinth
#

yes

uneven compass
#

Or in the next days

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Ok

stoic horizon
tight plinth
#

no, right after stream

split maple
#

after stream or after qna?

frigid wedge
#

nvm i lied

stoic horizon
#

good question

tight plinth
#

isnt after qna end of stream?

celest skiff
#

Should just have a bot periodically telling people to look at the countdown on the homepage

uneven compass
#

Everybody theorycraft tomorrow bro lol

tight plinth
#

i dont get that far kek

stoic horizon
uneven compass
#

Eh but after patch notes it gets real

brazen vector
split maple
#

i got a free day tomorrow

#

gonna be fun

tight plinth
#

depends on what the patch notes contains

stoic horizon
#

i have free today, tomorrow not as much

frigid wedge
#

u can get like 100 flat on focus

split maple
#

you rly need some %es

brazen vector
brazen vector
opal basalt
#

Do patch notes drop tonight?

stoic horizon
#

and also my homie is having a bday party so ill just be sitting there trying to not start yapping about poe to random ppl

brazen vector
frigid wedge
stoic horizon
split maple
brazen vector
opal basalt
#

Dayum noice

split maple
opal basalt
#

Surely slams wont get nuked

stoic horizon
#

they add a new slam so surely

frigid wedge
celest skiff
#

I wonder what the catch is on that slam, it looks too appealing not to have some horrible debilitation attached to it

frigid wedge
stoic horizon
brazen vector
frigid wedge
fossil mural
#

Unless hammer fall speed scales

frigid wedge
celest skiff
frigid wedge
#

u were aqueduct testing tho

stoic horizon
#

inb4 20% damage effectiveness

frigid wedge
#

and making temp gear

fossil mural
split maple
#

cant you go guardian there alesia

frigid wedge
#

i think losing transfig is a p big dmg drop

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and ur not reserving

split maple
#

oh you dont gain anything due to using eternal blessing

#

i wanted to slap in purity of ele yea

frigid wedge
#

u want the mana open

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bc unlike kboc the indigon scales infinitely

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as long as u have enough leech and an invincible mob the dps potential on mfa has always been infinite

split maple
#

but like how fast does mana cost ramp there

frigid wedge
#

exponential curve

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sorta

split maple
#

since even slaping in 100k recent spend its just 10k a sec

frigid wedge
#

shallow exponential

split maple
#

so you could like reserve 10k 😛

frigid wedge
#

iirc

celest skiff
#

"cannot be exerted" would ban it from Gencry right?

split maple
#

oh wait yea forgot to check trigger skill mana cost

#

that actually scales asser than mfa 😄

fossil mural
#

If they do this

frigid wedge
edgy gate
#

I thought I was done with PoE 1, didn't play the Keepers league too much, focused on PoE 2. Now I came back to PoE 1 after 2 months and boy, do I enjoy the endgame. So much to do! And I became hyped for 3.28 and now I know I will play it.... The cycle never stops 😄

frigid wedge
#

u can force end the cost ramp w vaal clarity tho

split maple
frigid wedge
#

u just lose ALL dps

split maple
split maple
#

||mana spend recently||

frigid wedge
#

ah

split maple
#

she has it at 8k

#

which with 30k pool is a tad pessimistic 😛

brazen vector
#

8k is what I used for my mfa whisperer

#

OH FUCK I HAVE 30K MANA NOW

#

wth

spice pecan
split maple
#

yes

spice pecan
#

fantastic

split maple
#

you just skip the mfa links and do it on deadeye

frigid wedge
stoic horizon
#

at least 11 sry

drowsy eagle
#

need at least 20 I'd say

frigid wedge
#

foulborn choir fucks

hexed mountain
#

tip to have a great leaguestart experience : check what conner is doing and copy it

fossil mural
#

Its free if you get the build gifted

frigid wedge
#

alesia how much does it change with int corrupt amulet

tranquil sedge
#

this is a bad default assumption

split maple
#

alesia i have a humble request - light res crit grasping mod & synth on abyssals crit multi and remove PT

celest skiff
#

can't shake this mornings brain fog ScuffGiveUp

tranquil sedge
#

connor builds are good builds but not always good leaguestarters LOL

brazen vector
split maple
#

i want to see that crit 😄

frigid wedge
fossil mural
#

Check what fubgoon is doing

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And copy that

brazen vector
past mantle
#

There were 7 unique weapons this league added and they're genuinely interesting. I am excluding foulborns even.
Block trigger dagger - Interesting, conditional but strong.
Grey Wind - I'm a sleeper on stackers but it is strong and has rage scaling and could enable ignite.
Wings of wyvern that's the freeze trigger bow - Wacky but actually interesting and pretty strong.
Golden Charlatan - Good.
Monestary bell - Good and also fun. This thing is gonna get hit in some way in patch notes but I hope it doesn't get evaporated.
Jiquani's - Sleepy stacker but at least it's strong and not obvious to build.
Unlight Extant - Actual outright good levelling unique, not too rare for levelling and generically good to be usable in maps too.

Weapons added in Mercs:
Cadigan's totem sceptre - Terrible in current state of the game but could be pretty giga if it ever gets positive changes.
Legacy of Rose - Almost good but really interesting to fuck around with. If they ever change how the energy is locked out when using the skill it'll just be good.
Mystic Refractor - Just a good wand.
Starcaller - Actual good item, Ngamahu's if it didn't need 30 aps to proc consistently.

Meanwhile weapons in Settlers:
Living Blade - Terrible stat 2h that lets you get +1 tincture.
Tawhoa's Felling - Terrible stat 2h that has a skill attached to it that people didn't even take as an ascendancy.

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Surely we're out of the uniques as afterthoughts era. :coppegy:

stoic horizon
#

login

split maple
hexed mountain
split maple
#

since iirc there is some nasty how often it triggers thingie with it

hexed mountain
#

they're just awfull to start

tranquil sedge
past mantle
tranquil sedge
#

i wonder how many uniques got updates in 3.28, total count

stoic horizon
#

at least 3

tranquil sedge
#

thats one of the two things that would be great to see happen every league by default, changes to unused uniques

#

the other being buffs to unused skill gems, ofc.

drowsy eagle
#

will fireball be uber viable

tranquil sedge
#

if you believe in yourself

drowsy eagle
fossil mural
tranquil sedge
#

fireball has some massive flat damage on it when you scale it

#

so if you really wanted to do it, you could probably make a build around it

silk scroll
tranquil sedge
#

5180 to 7770 flat fire damage at level 30 lol

drowsy eagle
#

my fantasy was using sword and shield casting fireball

brazen vector
past mantle
past mantle
#

Beltimber fireball was actually real.

fossil mural
tranquil sedge
#

rune daggers should count for your fantasy

whole bluff
# drowsy eagle will fireball be uber viable

With 3 seals from passive tree, 2 seals from clusters, 25% chance to gain a seal rather than consume a seal, 4 seals on support gem, and more dmg per zeal, plus no delay per zeal, surely. copiumoverdosepepe

tranquil sedge
#

rune dagger + squire, run a 9 link fireball as your main skill

#

swordcasting fantasy fulfilled

past mantle
tranquil sedge
#

dam

drowsy eagle
#

ggg how is it fair

tranquil sedge
#

do gmp/etc affect the count of this?